When I received this blower, the straight gas was still in the fuel tank. Customer said he lent to a neighbor who, after re-fueling, locked it up and brought it back saying something was wrong! Rule number one, NEVER lend to a neighbor! If you must, give them enough pre-mixed fuel to complete the job!!
Interesting what you call the Jug, I call a Barrel over here in England. I’d love to see you restore a British Seagull outboard motor. Single cylinder, two stroke heaven! 😍😎
I learned a good tip from Dale at Wheels through Time motorcycle museum. He reasons that if an engine locks up, it is usually at operating temperature. He removes any wires or plastic and heats the engine up with a hot plate, or sometimes he heats the Marvel Mystery oil before filling the engine. Parts expand and usually free up more easily. Good video!
James, another great video and save! I loved your reason for keeping the blower after the repair “ I already have two, but I have three kids”. I bet your kids loved that statement. BTW, I was always hesitant in trying to repair small two stroke engines. But after watching your channel, I felt more confident in trying. i have an old Stihl weed eater trimmer, the one with the square housing. It wouldn’t start so I rebuilt the carb. But it still did not quite run correctly. The carb had those high and low limiter plugs and I was not prepared to dig the plugs out, so all I did was exercising them by full travel out and in a few times while pumping the bulb. Once I did that the weed eater ran just fine. I only use the Stihl MotoMix in my equipment. Which seems to be good for not leaving deposits in the fuel system. Thanks again for great content!
"3 kids, 2 leaf blowers, so I'm keeping this one" LOL! Thanks for that James. Another excellent repair video. Though, honestly, I'd like to see you follow up on the OEM carb when you come across the correct tool to adjust/remove the needles.
For cost saving, I will buy a replacement piston and remove the aluminum transfer from the jug and see how she runs. Replacing both is a no brainer as long as the cost isn't crazy. OEM Echo top ends are a little pricey, as you found out! I did a straight-gassed PB580T last year and even with a score line in the cylinder runs great with only a new piston and base gasket. Every case is different. Interesting you checked the ring gap I usually don't on 2 strokes as they all bottom out on the anti-rotation pin.
Nice video. I found a Stihl cut off saw in pieces in a box returned from a small engine shop. Frozen piston. $1,200 to $1,800 new. Amazon had a top end kit back in the day for about $100 (years ago). Same exact procedure to rebuild but did not need a new carb. Runs great to this day. Thanks for the video.
Nice work Jim, I am just too swamped with work, glad you got it going! I need to put out more content, don't think I'll ever see 200K Subs though, congrats!
Back again I’ve genuinely learned from these videos had some stuff we couldn’t save but we knew what to look for. Thanks for the videos you’re definitely good at what you do.
Just a note on Chinesium kits. Ref 1:05:00 The air filters (at least for Echo Backpacks) that I have seen have thin rubber flanges that will NOT completely seal against the air box. The OEM Echo air filter has a thicker rubber base which will seal out dirt from the air box. If you buy one of these kits please confirm your air filter fully seals around the airbox; sucking in dirt is a no no!
Chinese parts not fitting? Who would have thought such things happen!!! 🤣 It's like Harbor Freight tools- some stuff is good and some isn't, and the trick in knowing which is which. Thanks for sending this to James and I just realized I wasn't subscribed to your channel so I fixed that!
I get burned on that low speed idle circuit clogged often. Same thing- put a kit in the carb - same problem - replace the carb & fix it. . It's the nature of the beast - win some - ya lose some. Grrrrr8 video
Thank you for explaining how 2 cycle carbs work. I don't have much experience working on 2 cycle engines, and I was curious about how those carbs actually function.
3 kids and 2 blowers sounds like room for better production by adding this one to the mix! Would have been interesting to see the compression before and after the first start as well as again after some break in time. Definitely sounded rich to me when you first started using it in the cold, but seemed to clean up a bit after getting hot too. Great fix and gift from Ken too!
Heh yeah. I once lived in government quarters where they cleared leaves with a small army of blower guys in a line. Works well and fast. Jim has his own version!
You will save money in the long run by not having to buy another blower which could be from 400 to 600 dollars so good deal glad to see it run and function like it should.
I own a PB=580T which is a little bigger than this one. I bought it 6 years ago and surprisingly is still available on the jungle site for around $400. You can get the genuine ECHO piston and cylinder kit from the Jungle site for around $180. That's retail pricing. Even a used blower is going to have a piston and cylinder with hours on it so the $200ish that you've invested is well worth if since you plan on keeping it.
I want one of those new dual headsets where you can transfer all your knowledge from one person to another. James first, then Einstein if he were still around.
You may have broken eveb with the theiretical cost of a second hand machine bought from the market. Thing is you have rebuilt the thing to last a darn site longer than any second hand machine. I hope it lasts for as long as you want it too. Another fascinating video. The carb was from hell though :)
The two most worrisome moments are rotating the crank without damaging anything and breaking the head bolts loose without stripping them. Fixing a straight-gassed two-stroke to the standard of James work is never going to be cheap, so many people try to save the cylinder and get some more life out of it as a more balanced economic move, knowing it will not deliver a long life but will go for awhile. When I worked in a motorcycle shop the latter wasn't allowed on a customer's bike; anything going out the door had to be right for business reputation reasons, and most businesses follow that pattern.
As usual, nice video! You are very meticulous cleaning all the parts but, sometimes, like here for the 2 bolts close to the spark plug and the plate they hold...no rust cleaning! 🤨
Hey James, I’m at 13 mins in, that piston doesn’t look straight gassed to me, it looks like it’s been ran lean and gotten too hot. Straight gassed would have completely scored the intake side too. Great camera work as always!
I had exactly the same problem with a Chinese 2 stroke multi-tool top end rebuild. Despite numerous rebuilds, ultrasonic etc. the carb would not idle the engine. Got a cheap replacement and no problem at all. Thanks agin Jim for an excellent video. Is there a Christmas Special?
What a way to break it to the kids, for christmas they are all getting a leaf blower of there own to maintain and use. And up to them to keep it running if they dont want to go back to using a rake. 😂😂😂😂
You do at least have the revenue from the videos. That does give you a little more room to take on projects like this one and still turn some profit, even if it isn't much.
In many cases, the labor cost exceeds the cost of parts and/or the value of the item to be repaired. In other cases, the cost of the parts alone exceeds the value of the item being repaired. That how we've become a "throw it away" economy.
In a two-stroke engine when the intake port closes, the sudden stop of airflow creates high pressure in the intake which has to be overcome during the next intake cycle before the air/fuel mix reaches the cylinder. Reeds stop this high pressure area from forming in the intake, thus improving the airflow and performance. This also helps with fuel economy as well as allowing you to better 'tune' the intake system in the design stage of manufacturing. Reeds are not necessary in an engine for it to work, but if it has them they must work correctly. Reeds can break off and enter the cylinder, destroying the piston and cylinder walls so they need careful inspection before re-use. Reeds and expansion chamber exhausts (which helps exhaust flow) came into widespread use in dirt bikes during the 70's greatly increasing their power. The technology passed down to some other two-stroke engine applications over time, but in those there may not be much advantage using them so they're not always found even in the newest engine designs, especially expansion chamber type exhausts which must be rather large to work effectively.
James Condon please next week check out The Honda hrx 217 which is the issue on that model why is nothing able collecting neither grass neither leaves neither clip the grass same after is already cutted one time. and loose power to 70% of his power
Do you have a JIS screwdriver?? (JIS) Japanese Industrial Standard Identified by a circular dot on screw head. Very fussy screw with standard Philips screwdrivers!
the engine is lock up why the owner of this echo backpack blower used the wrong oil for the mixture between gasoline and oil for two stroke if for example if he used the oil for efco/oleomac Prosynt oil can seized the engine same
@@MothKeeper Well clap, clap, clap! What a zinger! "Well done child." Oh, my, you sure got me! Superb insult that clearly demonstrates your towering intellect and RAZOR sharp wit! I am SO humbled by such a stinging rebuke! I guess I learned my lesson!
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When I received this blower, the straight gas was still in the fuel tank. Customer said he lent to a neighbor who, after re-fueling, locked it up and brought it back saying something was wrong! Rule number one, NEVER lend to a neighbor! If you must, give them enough pre-mixed fuel to complete the job!!
Interesting what you call the Jug, I call a Barrel over here in England. I’d love to see you restore a British Seagull outboard motor. Single cylinder, two stroke heaven! 😍😎
Next spring I will be working on an outboard.
I learned a good tip from Dale at Wheels through Time motorcycle museum. He reasons that if an engine locks up, it is usually at operating temperature. He removes any wires or plastic and heats the engine up with a hot plate, or sometimes he heats the Marvel Mystery oil before filling the engine. Parts expand and usually free up more easily. Good video!
James, another great video and save! I loved your reason for keeping the blower after the repair “ I already have two, but I have three kids”. I bet your kids loved that statement. BTW, I was always hesitant in trying to repair small two stroke engines. But after watching your channel, I felt more confident in trying. i have an old Stihl weed eater trimmer, the one with the square housing. It wouldn’t start so I rebuilt the carb. But it still did not quite run correctly. The carb had those high and low limiter plugs and I was not prepared to dig the plugs out, so all I did was exercising them by full travel out and in a few times while pumping the bulb. Once I did that the weed eater ran just fine. I only use the Stihl MotoMix in my equipment. Which seems to be good for not leaving deposits in the fuel system.
Thanks again for great content!
Oh my. Here we are again. Another upload that I have zero understanding about, but find utterly addictive!
"3 kids, 2 leaf blowers, so I'm keeping this one" LOL! Thanks for that James. Another excellent repair video. Though, honestly, I'd like to see you follow up on the OEM carb when you come across the correct tool to adjust/remove the needles.
Tris Chanel should be be called the James Condon University. The way you explain and teach everything is super. Greetings from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
For cost saving, I will buy a replacement piston and remove the aluminum transfer from the jug and see how she runs. Replacing both is a no brainer as long as the cost isn't crazy. OEM Echo top ends are a little pricey, as you found out! I did a straight-gassed PB580T last year and even with a score line in the cylinder runs great with only a new piston and base gasket. Every case is different. Interesting you checked the ring gap I usually don't on 2 strokes as they all bottom out on the anti-rotation pin.
Nice video. I found a Stihl cut off saw in pieces in a box returned from a small engine shop. Frozen piston. $1,200 to $1,800 new. Amazon had a top end kit back in the day for about $100 (years ago). Same exact procedure to rebuild but did not need a new carb. Runs great to this day. Thanks for the video.
Nice work Jim, I am just too swamped with work, glad you got it going! I need to put out more content, don't think I'll ever see 200K Subs though, congrats!
Thanks Ken
Back again I’ve genuinely learned from these videos had some stuff we couldn’t save but we knew what to look for. Thanks for the videos you’re definitely good at what you do.
Just a note on Chinesium kits. Ref 1:05:00 The air filters (at least for Echo Backpacks) that I have seen have thin rubber flanges that will NOT completely seal against the air box. The OEM Echo air filter has a thicker rubber base which will seal out dirt from the air box. If you buy one of these kits please confirm your air filter fully seals around the airbox; sucking in dirt is a no no!
Chinese parts not fitting? Who would have thought such things happen!!! 🤣 It's like Harbor Freight tools- some stuff is good and some isn't, and the trick in knowing which is which. Thanks for sending this to James and I just realized I wasn't subscribed to your channel so I fixed that!
@@P_RO_ Thanks for subbing, much appreciated!
Nice job on the blower, James.
I get burned on that low speed idle circuit clogged often. Same thing- put a kit in the carb - same problem - replace the carb & fix it. . It's the nature of the beast - win some - ya lose some. Grrrrr8 video
22:20 Nothing to it...for James!!! Hands of a surgeon!
Driveway looks so clean...until next windy day.
All these engine repairs that you do on these various engines is this a hobby
Thank you for explaining how 2 cycle carbs work. I don't have much experience working on 2 cycle engines, and I was curious about how those carbs actually function.
excellent work as always James
3 kids and 2 blowers sounds like room for better production by adding this one to the mix! Would have been interesting to see the compression before and after the first start as well as again after some break in time. Definitely sounded rich to me when you first started using it in the cold, but seemed to clean up a bit after getting hot too. Great fix and gift from Ken too!
It was rich when cold, but after a couple minutes it sounded pretty good.
Thanks Jim! "Straight gassed" is such a wonderfully succinct and accurate term. Sigh...
Great vid. I liked the implication at the end that each kid needs a blower - Deul: blowers at dawn!
Heh yeah. I once lived in government quarters where they cleared leaves with a small army of blower guys in a line. Works well and fast. Jim has his own version!
James Condon congratulation to reach 203.000 subscribed
Thanks
Китайцы молодцы, делают запчасти на всю мототехнику😊
1:10:23 "Well it is bright and early..."
That's when neighbors love leaf blowers the most! 😉
Am I the only one who can’t stand the suspense and jumps right to the end to see if it’s a win, before I watch the whole video?
Excellent work.
You will save money in the long run by not having to buy another blower which could be from 400 to 600 dollars so good deal glad to see it run and function like it should.
cannot beat an echo
Good work sir...
Hi James, good video! it may be a good idea to oil or grease the gaskets before assembly. John Deere recommends this procedure
Rich
I own a PB=580T which is a little bigger than this one. I bought it 6 years ago and surprisingly is still available on the jungle site for around $400. You can get the genuine ECHO piston and cylinder kit from the Jungle site for around $180. That's retail pricing. Even a used blower is going to have a piston and cylinder with hours on it so the $200ish that you've invested is well worth if since you plan on keeping it.
That was my thought.
valve grinding compound will make philips screwdriver fit tighter
I think that those screws are JIS screws, not Philips. A JIS screw is much much much easier to open using JIS screwdriver.
You missed a leaf......
"I only have two leaf blowers and three kids" I like how you think.
I want one of those new dual headsets where you can transfer all your knowledge from one person to another. James first, then Einstein if he were still around.
check the piston rings if they are glued on the piston you can say goodbye to the entire blower
Exelent job 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲💯💥💯💥💯👍👍👍👍🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷
How timely is this video!! I was just given one of these to see if I could fix thanks James!
You may have broken eveb with the theiretical cost of a second hand machine bought from the market. Thing is you have rebuilt the thing to last a darn site longer than any second hand machine. I hope it lasts for as long as you want it too. Another fascinating video. The carb was from hell though :)
The two most worrisome moments are rotating the crank without damaging anything and breaking the head bolts loose without stripping them. Fixing a straight-gassed two-stroke to the standard of James work is never going to be cheap, so many people try to save the cylinder and get some more life out of it as a more balanced economic move, knowing it will not deliver a long life but will go for awhile. When I worked in a motorcycle shop the latter wasn't allowed on a customer's bike; anything going out the door had to be right for business reputation reasons, and most businesses follow that pattern.
As usual, nice video! You are very meticulous cleaning all the parts but, sometimes, like here for the 2 bolts close to the spark plug and the plate they hold...no rust cleaning! 🤨
6:12 Engine fixed! Put some fresh fuel in that and call it a day!
Hey James, I’m at 13 mins in, that piston doesn’t look straight gassed to me, it looks like it’s been ran lean and gotten too hot. Straight gassed would have completely scored the intake side too. Great camera work as always!
I think you are right. I was told it was straight gassed but once running I found otherwise. Need to study up on my position failure analysis
I look forward to the rest of the video! Interesting :)
@38:32 Shades of Professor Klump (the Nutty Professor), the scene where the gerbils get evicted from the leaf blower!
I was hoping to see an even older one...but then beggars can't be choosers. There's a PB-400 on FB which I believe is from the early 1980s.
I had exactly the same problem with a Chinese 2 stroke multi-tool top end rebuild. Despite numerous rebuilds, ultrasonic etc. the carb would not idle the engine. Got a cheap replacement and no problem at all. Thanks agin Jim for an excellent video. Is there a Christmas Special?
NICE!!!!!!!
Next time, take a thin metal dremmel wheel and create a slot across both needles to use a flat head screw drive
I wish I could have. They were recessed pretty deep.
What a way to break it to the kids, for christmas they are all getting a leaf blower of there own to maintain and use. And up to them to keep it running if they dont want to go back to using a rake. 😂😂😂😂
You do at least have the revenue from the videos. That does give you a little more room to take on projects like this one and still turn some profit, even if it isn't much.
Wooden sticks for jug spacers!!!!!!!!
Might want to clean out the exhaust screen also.
I am going to tell Chickanic to start fixing generators.
I enjoyed the repair... Keep up the good work...
Was there any concern that metal from the damage may have entered the crankcase?
In many cases, the labor cost exceeds the cost of parts and/or the value of the item to be repaired. In other cases, the cost of the parts alone exceeds the value of the item being repaired. That how we've become a "throw it away" economy.
What do the reeds do, and how do you know when they need to be replaced? I have never encountered that before.
Straight gased OH NO 😮
If all else fails, read the owner's manual before you use any equipment.
@outlet6989 that is so true
James this blower needs mix 25/1
As the oil/gas mixture lubricates the crank I'm surprised it survived.
Hi what do the reeds do
Check valves tp prevent backfires.
@Rorschach1024 oh ok thank you
In a two-stroke engine when the intake port closes, the sudden stop of airflow creates high pressure in the intake which has to be overcome during the next intake cycle before the air/fuel mix reaches the cylinder. Reeds stop this high pressure area from forming in the intake, thus improving the airflow and performance. This also helps with fuel economy as well as allowing you to better 'tune' the intake system in the design stage of manufacturing. Reeds are not necessary in an engine for it to work, but if it has them they must work correctly. Reeds can break off and enter the cylinder, destroying the piston and cylinder walls so they need careful inspection before re-use.
Reeds and expansion chamber exhausts (which helps exhaust flow) came into widespread use in dirt bikes during the 70's greatly increasing their power. The technology passed down to some other two-stroke engine applications over time, but in those there may not be much advantage using them so they're not always found even in the newest engine designs, especially expansion chamber type exhausts which must be rather large to work effectively.
@P_RO_ ok thank you for letting me know
I think the original corporator is also overheated. That is why not fixing properly..
You probably should have just gone thru the carb before putting it back on. It's been sitting awhile.
Carb cleaning had a big impact. Before cleaning was really lot of smoke. After cleaning not at all.
You want a certain amount of smoke with a 2-stroke. Otherwise it is too lean.
James Condon please next week check out The Honda hrx 217 which is the issue on that model why is nothing able collecting neither grass neither leaves neither clip the grass same after is already cutted one time. and loose power to 70% of his power
Would have been nice to see the spark plug to observe how mucch aluminum transfer there was on it.......
🙌👍👌🙂🍀 New video
1:04:32 Why do you have a smiley face stamp on your hand?
I went to an event and everyone entering got one!
Use marvel mystery oil
wich side is the arrow of the piston pointing?? intake or exhaust , i didn't see this , sorry
The exhaust
🤨 and…. How does that unusual 2-stroke engine work? With the 2 additional inputs on the sides of the cylinder
I noticed the old piston had 1 ring and the new had 2.
Do you have a JIS screwdriver?? (JIS) Japanese Industrial Standard Identified by a circular dot on screw head. Very fussy screw with standard Philips screwdrivers!
I do
Листья на соседский участок сдули? 😂
It did not seem to work as well as a big back pack blower should. Maybe impeller damaged?
Definitely not as good as the Stihl br400 I fixed last year.
James before to start the blower echo drain the fuel tank echo same why haved bad gas/mixture
and god send us good
the engine is lock up why the owner of this echo backpack blower used the wrong oil for the mixture between gasoline and oil for two stroke if for example if he used the oil for efco/oleomac Prosynt oil can seized the engine same
Or maybe he forgot add 2t oil and run it on pure gasoline only
You have the hands of a thief 😅
But he smoke to much so you have to use 32/1 liter
8th!
@@MothKeeper Well clap, clap, clap! What a zinger! "Well done child." Oh, my, you sure got me! Superb insult that clearly demonstrates your towering intellect and RAZOR sharp wit! I am SO humbled by such a stinging rebuke! I guess I learned my lesson!
My God i love 2 strokes dam California for banning them!
Road trip to Vegas!
Road trip to Vegas!
You skip a lot of your struggles
👍👍👍🫵🪨❤️it. Looks like you got yourself one good leaf blower as well congratulations. Sincerely, Chuck.