Tiger 131 Maintenance and Army Exercise | Ep. 15 | Tank Workshop Diaries | The Tank Museum
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- In this episode of Tank Workshop Diaries get an update from the Museum Workshop Projects Manager Johnathon Kneebone, on which tanks are currently under the spanner, featuring work carried out on the Tiger.
Plus a visit to Bovington's military training area, with Curator David Willey as The Museum, takes part in ATDU's Vehicle Recognition Exercise, to learn what camouflage works best within the landscape.
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Maintainers - the unsung heroes of any vehicle collection.
I love the Tank Workshop Diaries!
Man i can sit for hours and hours to listen to mr David and look at tanks
Got to say, those engine bays are spotlessly clean. Some of them look like they've just rolled out of the factory. Amazing stuff, a testament to how much time and effort all these vehicles get from the Workshop team.
When I was with the AUST 1ARMD REGT at Puckapunyal the leopards were painted in solid green (basically olive drab) but when on exercise we would pain them and the M113s with mud from the local area to different patterns to use local colour to help hide them. It worked well and as an example when we had US forces over you could spot them in the bush much easier than the Aussies wearing the local issue DPCUs this was mainly because the US cam was more a woodland colouring where the Aussie DPCUs were more a brown tan and light green which with the dry climate was better for a bit of an idea as to how much the US DPCUs would stand out imagine if in the gulf wars nothing was repainted or DPCUs were still the ones worn in europe while in Saudi Arabia.
Indeed much better to use local camo-(organic)colors ! That's for eye-vision. But camo for infra, radar and ultra effects nowadays are important against enemy-devices !
Could you imagine running around Afghanistan in urban combat in bright green, black and brown woodland camouflage. You might as well paint a red X on your back ❌
Exactly what the Germans did in Operation Barbarossa. It helped to break up that Panzer Gray. It wouldnt be until early '43 that they would switch to a dark-yellow base. Panzers often came from the factory with some greens and such. The units themselves could pick the paint scheme they wanted for the terrain they were in.
Reminds me when one of your guys gave me a quick tour while the Matilda was undergoing a rebuild back in 2017/2018. Absolutely made my summer
That bevel gearbox is the kind of thing I'd imagine when I hear the phrase "the Tiger was over-engineered and complicated", but wave off as being a ridiculous idea. Apparently, it does indeed use a machined set of gears in its own separate gearbox instead of, like, a fan belt or electric motor. Amazing look at the working parts of this machine.
What struck me was how crunchy those bearings sounded. Hopefully they replaced them.
Great to see the guys from the workshop again.
I have a little hint for the DSTL guy though: If you're afraid the people working in the nice, warm, clean(ish) factory are going to kill you, how do you imagine the soldiers in the field are going to maintain your overcomplicated paint scheme?
By the time it's covered in mud and dust, mot enemy vehicles will have been destroyed, and it's up to the infantry to find all the missile launchers and shoot anyone holding one.
An RPG-7 is NOT a hunting weapon, or to defend your goats from wolves.
In quite the opposite way I still remember when after some collisions and near misses at low level we did a trial to find the colour scheme for training aircraft that made them most visible. Out went red and white and in came gloss black!
What, no purple polka-dots on lime green background? lol -- I like the crazy clown patterns the Allies used over the bomber assembly areas in WWII. Bombers that were old and worn out still serving a vital role.
A brilliant overview of the workshop projects. Brilliant information and very interesting.
Thank you Jonathon for the video.
Keep up the cracking work troops!
Thank you so much for the return of the Workshop diaries
More Workshop Diaries please!
Top camouflage tip: get rid of that sheen.
I agree, especially on the horizontal sky facing surfaces.
Tanks were painted in satin finishes since matte wears off much more easily. It's accurate.
Honestly my favorite part of matte paint is the lack of sheen, and this helps you hide tanks so much more. God I love matte paint
It’s not gloss shine it’s proper British rain…..
"When the enemy uses a digital camo scheme on their armoured vehicles and you hold up your smartphone for a landscape photo and 16 QR codes are registered in the image..."
Hahahaahaha..........
and the QR Codes leading to a website displaying: _404 Error Not Found_
It could just be me but that digital camouflage on the challenger 2 looks very nice
Great to see the Workshop Diaries back!
Black and Green worked for BAOR for 30 years, Tan worked for Desert. Batus was Tan and Green. Applying paint on new/damaged items was easy, even a child could paint those schemes. Now you expect a Soldier in the Field to paint new parts Digital? How many paints does that require? It just expands the Logistics chain, with more paint, again, so someone, somewhere can say, "I did that" . If it aint broke...Dont fix it.......PS, I see there was nothing wrong with DPM, it worked , so why Digital on Cammo?
Hi guys,
Solutions Haha, Every tool needs a leash on it so you don't lose them in the workings.
Thanks for making these, Love it. Keep it going
Regards from South Africa
Paul
Thanks for all the updates. Great work as always!
fantastic series.
Excellent and well done, keep the diaries rolling
Interesting how the collection is helping the appearance of future tanks
I really hope there is a video of the vehicle recognition exercise following. If not, showing the Tank Museums vehicles in their natural environment and explaining how to identify them would make for a great video.
Absolutely cool to see the innards of a Tiger tank!
Really special seeing the guts of the Tiger and Comet. This is the stuff only you can provide, do more of it!! Coming to visit later this year, with a bit of luck 🙏
Love seeing the up close details on the Tiger.
Camouflage is not only about recognicing a vehicle but also about identifying what vehicle you are fighting against. I can remember the tank camouflage dazzl or so for the big tanks, I mean ships back then but that disappeared too.
But maybe QR code style camouflage will help ...
Thx now i know how to do repair and maintenance on my Tiger 1
Great video. Thanks for the update.
More Diaries please!
Tank museum should do absolutely deadpan tank repair instructional videos as though they were just repairing a common car. "So we're gonna fix this charging issue on our t34 and film it so you at home can fix yours".
There's probably a Haynes manual for the T-34 out there....!!
@@keefr22 There is...
@@keefr22 google said there is
@@keefr22 or just use the Skoda 130 manual... they have a lot in common ;-)
I'm sure I saw a Haynes manual for an ICBM.
Awesome to learn about these machines, I am taking notes of the tiger,might be a good lockdown home project 😂
The best camouflage tip I was ever given was "don't move!". No matter how hard you try you can't hide if you are moving. If the enemy has infra-red sensors no amount of camo is going to help you anyway.
Bob Darwood, I knew I recognized him. He was part of the crew at the Isle of Wight tank Museum and of course appeared in two episodes of Tank overhaul on the show they did say he was a electrical expert and here he is doing just that. I wonder if he's still part of the Isle of Wight Museum or did that get shut down
Excellent as always
So nice to see the familiar faces again.
I love this video and all the serious info in it but I lost it wen I saw a bag get yeeted into the Leopard (I think) in the background just after 12:35
Satchel charge. That's why the scene cut so soon after...
These are the sort of guys that once they retire we will loose so much knowledge. I hope there apprentices realize how lucky they are to learning from gentlemen like this.
It looks like he squat on the thumbnail! Cool bro! Luv the videos
Thank you
Cool Video, thank you :) the look into tiger 131 and the trials with the camo. I would like, if you could extend the result of such tests to the public... Was there any evaluation for german camo of WW2? and, if, is this used in this trials?
legendary ball bearings. 1:20 target number one of the 8th air force.. i wonder if they are nos?
I was amazed by the level of complexity and need for fine engineering/manufacturing for what was just a drive coupling to the cooling fans!
Great work you guys do..Thank-you. do you have young blood mechinics that will take over after you guys retire??
Modern British Army....
"Does it have a boiling vessel?"
"Spose"
"Good enough, then."
Nice update. Any news on the replacement clutch for the Churchill. Just asking no ulterior motives… ;-)
So are uniform coloured camouflage schemes being adopted then? That surprises me.
I always think, just drill a small hole in your spanner and tie on a piece of string. You’ll easily retrieve it then!
Thanks.
There muse be so many 10mm sockets rolling around in the belly of that Tiger. No wonder it makes so much noise!
Also, camo is situational. You'd think silver would be easily found, but I can never figure out which car is mine with others around. And, of course, nobody sees it on the road because it's so generic and is road-coloured from certain angles.
A bright red motorbike sticks out everywhere. Good for finding it in a car park, bad for avoiding speeding tickets. Especially when they hear you coming from miles away.
silver cars have the bad habit of vanishing in the rain and fog too !
@@orbitalair2103 And yet if you ask your insurer, they say that colour makes no difference to the statistics! Personally, I find this hard to believe. Safest bet is driving with headlights on day or night and driving defensively.
Really interesting, thanks! 👍
Two great vids for the price of one. Worthy of two thumbs up.
Would you not consider changing the cooling fan to a more efficient electric driven system rather than the belt drive?
Interesting video, but it was hard hearing what they said when the face masks were on. Was nice seeing Tiger 131 for a service, not seen much of her in the workshop diaries.
...are they allowed to release the results of the camo test? Or is that a classified thing? Cause now I'm interested how the old patterns worked, and if they broke up the silhouettes enough they didn't know what they were looking at.
A question if you please: On viewing the Tigers engine area I see a great deal of rust/corrosion in the cooling manifold. Has the museum ever looked into using a waterless coolant such as Evans Waterless in its vehicle fleet to halt the corrosion problems??? The same maybe of value for the Comet.
It may be that a different coolant won't function correctly for certain engines. The pumps are set for a certain viscosity at running temperatures.
@@edcrichton9457 Actually Evans waterless has been used in industrial applications for decades. It is a direct replacement for water based coolants.
Wouldn't surprise me if adding a few branches on top of your tank is way more influential than the exact paint job...
Good looking BRDM-2.
That camo question is obviously redundant. Off course the M90 camo is the best :D
Having painted a lot of tanks in the old school black and green used in the cold war I'd have to say the digi colour scheme wouldn't be practical to do, you'd need a hell of a lot of stencils and it would take a huge amount of time per tank in comparison to black and green or a single colour green.
The UK has an enormous surplus of fine arts graduates. Get them to do it. Just don't tell them what the 'heavy industrial tractors' they're painting are really used for. The only problem is that if we end up with tanks painted in Pride colours it might end up motivating the enemy.
There's always one......
Here's a hint: "there are no straight lines in nature".
Not much new about digital camo - just a modernised Berlin Brigade scheme.... :-)
Having extremely long arms I was often called on to retrieve somebody's spanner ( or possibly my own! ) from under a Stollies engine!
Excellent, DW is so handsome💖he's such a distraction, sorry workshop guys, I'm sure each one of you have a great personality🤣
Yep! Defo a knee trembler, DW that is😈
tank u for shared your job.welcome from the france......tank u .......lol
Any chance that you can offer the rusty paint background to your graphics to patrons as a screen saver image?
Something like Swedish camo should be good it's like the dazzle the navy painted that ship in not just to hide but to confuse you which way the tank is facing ??
At 9:42 there is a Swedish Ikv90. And yeah, this camo is made for exactly that kind of terrain. So i would think that one is spotted last :D
@@Donken86 Maybe who knows they did not say in the video which one was best ??
@@RJM1011 To bad they didnt, probably classified report anyway!
@@Donken86 Yes
I wonder why camo nets apparently aren't a thing anymore? The Bundeswehr hat all its vehicles in a drab olive color up til the mid 80s and it worked, because it was just the base color for added camo like nets and shrubbery.
The Major said they add all that stuff in the field. Not when knocking around at home, because it gets in the way of keeping them shiny, and makes it hard to find where you parked.
Thermal blanket for the vehicles with a heat management system to hide the heat.
To hide it from the swarms of autonomous hunter-killer drones.
Badass and Cool.
Camouflage; quite surprised no one tries elephant colour, after all they disappear really quickly into undergrowth.
Perhaps make the next tank in the shape of an elephant, haha!
Tiger stuts on the tank must be Stutzen, where you fill them up. Stuts = Stutzen ...
We'll have amazing camo for the future battle of Dorset...Not sure it helps in places like Afghanistan. Do it in theatre, troops are clever especially when their lives depend on it. Best judges are guys on the ground.
2:34 look at that armour very thin, can almost see daylight! Easily punch a 50. through that via bouncing it off the ground 😉
Did u get ccp social points for wearing muzzles? Things well on landing strip 1?
It’s a legal requirement here and real men keep their colleagues safe by wearing masks loser.
Monty Python's "How not to be seen" springs to mind...
Yes! "Vehicle Recognition Exercise" - that's a Tiger!
The digital camouflage scheme is good, but it would work better without the flashing orange beacon on top of the tank. That’s a dead giveaway.
Definitely want to have a nice thick sock to cover that before any ops. Not forgetting to tape over the on/off switch for it.
The flashing light for for camo at road works !
1:36 what's the one thing?
Where else could you see these old enemies cheek by jowl being worked on?
How not to be seen. In this picture is Mr Challenger Mk2 he cannot be seen.
But is it green ?
4:30 with the tanks do you use a none water coolant or tested it... if you do not know its coolant with zero water in it and from what I have been reading its a lot better for the engine etal and it allows the engine etal to run at better temperatures
Does not make sense to run the engine on what it was designed to run on?
Hmmmmmmm,.... I was in the signal corp. Spent some time in an Armored Sqn,.. Spent some time painting FV 439 's,.... See that digi cam ,..?,...... yeah , you can #### off.
Oh heck, just paint them all Hot Pink. That will throw the enemy off. "It can't be a tank, nobody would do that!"
Pink is actually a desert camoflage colour!
@@markdammes1947 lol
Damn those fan assemblies are so complex, I know we are talking about a german heavy tank but still..
Complex? It's actually a pretty simple and reliable solution to drive large heavy radiator fans. Very odd for a German vehicle.
That cooling had to be bulletproof. So they made it bulletproof.
Just do what the US has been doing for decades, paint everything desert sand since that is scheme that will mostly likely work in the next conflict. the majority of US vehicles are in a desert paint. camo is found on very old equipment that is only used in training.
paint the the tank hello kitty pink. because nobody will report in that they have seen a pink tank.
Darn, I thought this would be some kind of quiz where you had to guess what tank they were talking about
the responsibilty to be working on 131 must be immense. last running tiger in the world,. so if you botch it, the whole military history world will be staring at you.
Forget camouflage - go straight to a Bird of Prey cloaking device!
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I got a question about Tiger 131. Does Tiger 131 have a birthday
turn one into a lawnmower
The camouflage is looks like minecraft skins
Mine craft camo.
I find much of that silly tat in the gift shop a bit distasteful. A "Tiger tank top" !? Tiger tank beer!!?
$$$$ or ££££ or €€€€ is good for the bank balance or are you offering to stump up a hefty tithing on the regular basis to keep the museum open and financial?
Camo has been studied countless times. Its not the color or the pattern. The human eye is analog, it detects motion. These days they also have to do something with the thermal signature. Finally, it should be pretty simple, how many manhours to paint single color green, vs manhours to paint digital nonsense?
The right decals wouldn't be that time intensive, but they would be stripped off by the next sand storm or bleach under intense sunlight.
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