Gender in 19th century Britain

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  • Kathryn Hughes explores the role of women in middle class Victorian society. Highlighting the conflicted and restrained behaviour expected of women between being learned but not too intelligent, beautiful but not sexual, Kathryn reveals the expectations on 19th-century women. She also explains how women such as Florence Nightingale and Elizabeth Barrett-Browning managed to challenge those expectations.
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ความคิดเห็น • 158

  • @butchdeadlift10
    @butchdeadlift10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Lesson for me: "Blue Stocking" is "Nerd girl" of the 19th century

    • @doughoward6401
      @doughoward6401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give me a blue stocking any day over a vapid vanity driven airhead 9nly interested in a bank account .

    • @butchdeadlift10
      @butchdeadlift10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Tom Bramald What grade?

    • @frankm.2850
      @frankm.2850 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Less nerd girl and more just fully realized human being.

  • @zaneplayz3719
    @zaneplayz3719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Face it
    We all came here because of our English teachers making us do homework on gender equality and inequality

    • @cheezballz8146
      @cheezballz8146 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah.... I came here cause my history teacher is making me do homework on gender equality and inequality.

    • @zaneplayz3719
      @zaneplayz3719 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cheezballz8146 Close enough

    • @oxhidoupsil
      @oxhidoupsil 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

  • @jeffcampbell1555
    @jeffcampbell1555 8 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Had I been a Victorian girl, I would have become a bluestocking on purpose! Unfortunately, if I didn't marry, I'd have remained utterly dependent on parents, a brother, or an uncle for life. Spinsters were regarded as expensive burdens, and often treated poorly by loved ones. So sad, and such a waste of intellect and talent.

    • @ahmadawad3325
      @ahmadawad3325 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      man up yo .. those women were highly educated with wealthy life or worker women .. they even got money(after a relevant dies ) and invested them .. or simply worked .. women are best suited in medical ,teaching , literature, art , clothes making and design ,house keepers , acting and singing .. and they work all that back then .. unless you are referring to anti men jobs such as cops soldiers politicians which they suck at as much as Angila miracle or Hillary .. or sex slaves jobs aka (Secretary ) .. or Kentucky operators which ironically if she leave it to jobless man he would be working and able to afford to marry her and form a family making her safe instead of her feeling unsafe thus obliged to work thus stealing another man job thus he can't afford marriage as he's unemployed .

    • @Dan_The_Dude
      @Dan_The_Dude 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      +Ahmad Awad I have no clue what you're trying to say. Your comment is one big run-on sentence with weird punctuation and misplaced words that I can only hope we're just very bad typos.

    • @anonymousforever
      @anonymousforever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ahmadawad3325 go away you ignorant and misogynist idiot. Women can be who ever they want to be and be good at it and certainly don't need men like you to tell them what they can and cannot do. Women work to be independant, to develop themselves and to contribute to society in general just like men do. Not to keep 'themselves safe' as you put it. And as women are entirely equal to men, they have a right to fully participate in society and therefore no woman is 'taking jobs' away from men.
      Also for the record, your knowledge of western society in past times is appallingly ignorant! Women could not work any of those jobs you mentioned if they belonged to a higher class and very few jobs were open to lower class women. Go educate yourself before spouting nonsense on the internet and while you are at it, learn to write English better. Otherwise stay away from a language not your own if you are sub-standard at it.

    • @anonymousforever
      @anonymousforever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @katie -_- what can you expect?! Islam was and is a backwards, woman-hating religion.

  • @xtremelovin
    @xtremelovin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Just what I was looking for my Victorian Fiction class presentation. Thank you! This video is quite interesting.

  • @giovanninicoli1127
    @giovanninicoli1127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i am italian and i don't understand very well english, so I need subtitles, add them pleaseeee

  • @Williamsmith_21
    @Williamsmith_21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Who is here doing history in lockdown
    Edit:wow people actually read my comment. Thx

    • @carrotgarratley9749
      @carrotgarratley9749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      me lol we have too take notes

    • @penumbraproductions7516
      @penumbraproductions7516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Matthew Norris Its for my AP World Hist.

    • @peltz6791
      @peltz6791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Matthew Norris Oh my god same I'm doing it for English and Emily Bronte for some reason XD

    • @matthewthomas-hughes6041
      @matthewthomas-hughes6041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Matthew Norris this is my english too, we are learning about women rights and stuff like that. its a bit dead ngl

    • @cupid4sara
      @cupid4sara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      me im in the lesson rn >.

  • @musicstewart9744
    @musicstewart9744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is most interesting, especially since I'm now listening to "Orlando " by Virginia Wolfe

  • @emsmith3316
    @emsmith3316 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I would have been the worst blue stocking ever. I'd pick political fights all the time with everyone, argue loudly, read all the time, not look for a husband and If I did I would let him know I was his equal. And I'd hate the dresses.

    • @aliviamcdaniels7414
      @aliviamcdaniels7414 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same sis! 😂😊lol

    • @Gabriel-un5sn
      @Gabriel-un5sn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh i bet u get em!

    • @martijn3015
      @martijn3015 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would certainly be interesting though. Although I have not had education how to be acting in this time so that would make it two of us then, who will not confirm 😅

    • @frankm.2850
      @frankm.2850 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And unfortunately you’d probably get tossed into an asylum. It was depressing, horrifically easy for a man to have his wife or daughter committed. Men may be fragile now, but at least we no longer let them commit women to a mental hospital for daring to be fully realized people.

  • @taeaddict2881
    @taeaddict2881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's relieving how much the stereotypes changed from then to now.

    • @carlysheree3130
      @carlysheree3130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the traditional stereotype

  • @Lamaspucke
    @Lamaspucke 9 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Very interesting! I enjoy these kinds of videos a lot

  • @Poemsapennyeach
    @Poemsapennyeach 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Pithy and explanatory. Excellent.

  • @feezlfuzzl564
    @feezlfuzzl564 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Has she ever worn a crinoline? There are several TH-camrs who have/do, and they show how flexible they really were. (Prior Attire, Bernadette Banner, etc.) Karolina Zabrowski even got an authentic one, and just bent it back into shape easily. No, you wouldn't scrub the floors in them, but they weren't exactly "literal cages to keep women in their place" either.

    • @ilya8132
      @ilya8132 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How would flexibility help in the cases she described? In the example of sitting on a train, were passengers supposed to deal with one person taking three seats or being squished up against another person's closing? Would you imagine pushing yourself through doorways to be proper during this time period?

    • @feezlfuzzl564
      @feezlfuzzl564 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ilya8132 They had special traveling suits, so maybe they didn't wear them on trains. Crinolines were popular in the 1850's-1860's, so there may not have been as many railroads, either. As for doorways, what's the big deal with pushing yourself through, if you have to?

  • @harrysully9987
    @harrysully9987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should add time stamps for people still using this to revise

  • @careesimo
    @careesimo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nancy from Oliver Twist anyone?

  • @MioHasMoe
    @MioHasMoe 9 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Lol I'm a blue stocking I guess

  • @ilya8132
    @ilya8132 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love looking back to feminism in previous centuries. To see how extreme it was helps me understand the level it's at now, in both the ways I experience and see it. Even reading comments below which claim this lifestyle to be "best" gives perfect example of how long it takes for human ideals to truly evolve. The excuse "it was *this many* years ago" always fell flat for me. Human change takes time and there will always be plenty of people who want to hold on.

  • @Rinouliniable
    @Rinouliniable 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Quite informative, thank you.

  • @Biociety
    @Biociety 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So interesting to know how women's life and education back in the 19th century

  • @legitmelon2512
    @legitmelon2512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    i have to watch this for a 11 page home work that we have 5 days to do, like wtf

    • @prasansha
      @prasansha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      did u finish?

    • @chater468
      @chater468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@prasansha that's the real question tbh

    • @soundtracknerd8801
      @soundtracknerd8801 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chater468 We'll never know, but I'm currently cramming an English rough draft (about *Pride and Prejudice*) due by 4/23 11:59PM CST (gave it to us 4/18), and it's got a 6-page minimum (10 page max) with a specific page amount for specific subjects. And I started it at like 12PM that exact day.
      Haha... jesus, group project due the week after in my other class got me f'd...

  • @hailie8187
    @hailie8187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m just here for my English essay 🧍‍♀️

  • @ABeautfulMess
    @ABeautfulMess หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful

  • @mothernature1021
    @mothernature1021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    subtitles?

  • @melissamelodies3729
    @melissamelodies3729 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very insightful

  • @MissSladousek
    @MissSladousek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I reckon after knowing this most of females would be Elizabeth Barrett if brought into that era LOL

  • @seastorm9548
    @seastorm9548 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Marriage was not about love back then it was about climbing up the social ladder, obtaining wealth for the family and producing heirs to inherit the land. Women had it especially hard if they were stuck with a husband they didn't like because divorce was almost impossible. If I were born during that time I would never get married

  • @darrendavies5704
    @darrendavies5704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watching this for online learning

  • @yesplease6399
    @yesplease6399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd just hope to have a mum like Enola Holmes mother in these times.

  • @WingMcCann
    @WingMcCann 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a very informative video but why are there so many shots of the chest of the woman who's speaking?

  • @PixelTheMushroom
    @PixelTheMushroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who else is here for English
    (And hobby history)

  • @claudiabenedito2928
    @claudiabenedito2928 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is cool. Thank you

  • @mergingkibbles
    @mergingkibbles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you are here from Bremen high school I’m sorry

  • @nicolemedina8072
    @nicolemedina8072 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enola Holmes... great movie

  • @crazymaniac1396
    @crazymaniac1396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They're lives we're just as good as yours probably even better

  • @richiebellerby1465
    @richiebellerby1465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mrs humphries anyone

    • @richiebellerby1465
      @richiebellerby1465 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @UCREUNqbubaLr_mfemgbqxrw is that beastly Johnson over here

  • @cherryblossom5239
    @cherryblossom5239 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Am I the only one who has difficulties understanding her correctly? I usually understand the British accent but she seems to have difficulties articulating.

    • @tobitoes1052
      @tobitoes1052 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cherry blossom That's just what posh people sound like when you put them on the spot without a script

    • @daleefren
      @daleefren 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yo que no hablo inglés como lengua materna es más difícil todavía

  • @FurryAminal
    @FurryAminal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Casual dress means casual attitude means social collapse into "me me me" self-indulgence.
    Victorians were not faultless (I'm sick of having to say that - we all know it but some wag will whine if we don't spell it out) but they understood the necessity of discipline.
    They also recognised that beauty is not the same thing as 'sexy'; the latter being about appetite, which is disruptive and self-indulgent, rather than about grace.
    As for learning, the emphasis was on becoming educated rather than on becoming a dry professional (which men had to do by necessity, someone had to, and which it was pointless for women to do also, as it defeminised them - and no healthy man is attracted to another who is masculine as its both sexually misguided and a recipe for constant argument).
    Maybe if people took their head out of radical bias for a while they might remember these things.

    • @eveningdim7167
      @eveningdim7167 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Perhaps if you got out of radical bias, you'd be able to see your own bias.

    • @monmothma3358
      @monmothma3358 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wow. The attitudes still exist..

    • @anonymousforever
      @anonymousforever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +FurryAnimal another far-right moron moaning about the 'state of the times'. If you are a man, then you are a misogynist, ignorant pig to believe that education 'defeminises' women! Education makes a whole person whether they are male or female.
      You definately need some more education.

  • @vacaspen5038
    @vacaspen5038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dont be smart enough to re cognize his nonsense, or ignorance, orbpossibilites outside what he wants to provide

  • @sunwoop
    @sunwoop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching this for online English studies :(

  • @sunwoop
    @sunwoop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @Cam.Rubstein
    @Cam.Rubstein 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    POV:your here from your history lesson

  • @ReaperD6
    @ReaperD6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anyone else got a history exam soon?

  • @mrhook2859
    @mrhook2859 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The good old day's. Britain did look well.

  • @lynnejohnson2099
    @lynnejohnson2099 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not what I expected based on the title.

  • @name_not_important7757
    @name_not_important7757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im dumb af

  • @anunashamedwhitemale7660
    @anunashamedwhitemale7660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝕘𝕠𝕠𝕕 𝕠𝕝𝕕 𝕕𝕒𝕪𝕤

  • @name_not_important7757
    @name_not_important7757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ahhh😜they would kill me, im like freaking weird

  • @jackychun1552
    @jackychun1552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    whos here for history lesson

  • @ghostlylover99123
    @ghostlylover99123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A time when it was fact that there is only two genders

    • @lalamarshie94
      @lalamarshie94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Still is fact.

    • @rachelhorwitz9086
      @rachelhorwitz9086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please read a science book. 🤦‍♀️

    • @carlysheree3130
      @carlysheree3130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rachel Horwitz yes can you please read a real science book

  • @athosnogueira6755
    @athosnogueira6755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Based times

  • @borgesvania5798
    @borgesvania5798 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Olá Terry, como vai você? Antes de mais nada, parabéns pelo canal. Não falo inglês, mas tento me "acudir". Bom, virando a noite fazendo uma pesquisa de músicas nordestinas e forró, fui levada ao canal de Rita Ribeiro. Sou a compositora da música "Há mulheres". A gente se conheceu? Pergunto, pois, tenho um amigo casado com uma inglesa, mas, não me lembro o nome dela agora. De qualquer forma, lhe escrevo para agradecer imensamente por seus comentários em defesa dos direitos autorais. Boa sorte toda vida! abraços.

  • @juliettezea9507
    @juliettezea9507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m worried I’ll be a spinster

    • @aliviamcdaniels7414
      @aliviamcdaniels7414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t worry about being a spinster and don’t worry about what other people think of you. Life the life you want!❤😊

    • @juliettezea9507
      @juliettezea9507 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aliviamcdaniels7414 thanks

  • @sensei121
    @sensei121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When men were men….and women were grateful….

  • @edieredding1179
    @edieredding1179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why TF do i have to whatch this for my english homework 😑😑😑😑

  • @ametrineambrosia4929
    @ametrineambrosia4929 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Haha, me too. Even in this day and age, men are surprised by a highly sexed and expansively intellectual woman like my self, as the twain are not seen as inclusive. Now if I were to go back then, that combination in a physical package, that while is not flawless (I am scarred) meets the Victorian physical ideal, and is very feminine at once.. well, well...how interesting!

    • @epfizerdoolittleajl2165
      @epfizerdoolittleajl2165 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you american?

    • @ametrineambrosia4929
      @ametrineambrosia4929 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ava lawrence why the question?

    • @epfizerdoolittleajl2165
      @epfizerdoolittleajl2165 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Prion Indigo you know, I can't even remember

    • @rael6974
      @rael6974 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Highly sexed? You think that’s an attractive quality? 👀👀👀

    • @jesseward568
      @jesseward568 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ra El isnt it? Come on. It is. I love the ego on this one

  • @beckyhambly1061
    @beckyhambly1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey everyone that’s here from homework lmao

  • @pepittow3222
    @pepittow3222 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm non binnary I'm a tree

  • @name_not_important7757
    @name_not_important7757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Freaking 9 year olds marring 70 year olds

  • @leylared5910
    @leylared5910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The foolishness my teacher makes us watch kmt!!!

  • @hotgrilulove8285
    @hotgrilulove8285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    poggerz

  • @mistyblue1882
    @mistyblue1882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y9 history homework 😩😝

  • @otk._rob
    @otk._rob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Black Lives MAtter

  • @corruptedsk1224
    @corruptedsk1224 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ayo if ur from boys grammar and are reading this hiiii

  • @komandopatrick8540
    @komandopatrick8540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Qui est là pour son devoir d'Euro?

  • @aliyaharowolo9060
    @aliyaharowolo9060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    19th century spat lies 💮

  • @copilote420
    @copilote420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C’est relou un peu

  • @theblizardblitz2396
    @theblizardblitz2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh

  • @corentinmarc5243
    @corentinmarc5243 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bonjour Noa le roux

  • @jonvalberg3694
    @jonvalberg3694 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    ég er í ensku í fmos fml

  • @charlieburgess7074
    @charlieburgess7074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be honest I couldn’t care less

    • @Uk.content
      @Uk.content 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @diana2656
      @diana2656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LMFAOOO INNIT, BRO IM HERE CUS OF HISTORY HW 😔

  • @rael6974
    @rael6974 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This needs to be brought back

    • @anonymousforever
      @anonymousforever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Ra El and you need your balls removed

    • @jennybeanSMC
      @jennybeanSMC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn some of the comments are so dumb on here I'm actually finding them entertaining.

  • @arnsteinngestsson4363
    @arnsteinngestsson4363 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lame!!