Malaysia betrayed the Manila Agreement when it founded the Federation of Malaya. As Indonesians, we all know that Malaysia betrayed the agreement and trusted its colonial masters, namely England. We are also disappointed with the Philippines who remained silent when Malaysia betrayed Malaysia even though we fought in Sabah and Sarawak against the British army and the Gurkhas over Malaysia's betrayal. Our confrontation is aimed at disbanding the Malayan Federation which is not in accordance with the Manila Agreement.
Actually, the Philippines became a victim of Foreign Interventionism from Malaysia thru Sen. Benigno Aquino Sr. the then Main Opposition of the Marcos Sr. Administration, which is linked with Malaysia, and after the ouster of Marcos then, the Wife of Aquino, takeover as President and restored the Diplomatic Relations with Malaysia with Mahatir visiting her in Malacañang Palace, and created an agreement to weaken the Philippines claims on Sabah by creating a new Constitution, which also weaken Philippines claims on West Philippine Sea(Scarborough Shoal, Spratly Islands), where Vietnam and Malaysia started to occupied then.
@@romeocivilino6667 They also claim the islands of Sipadan and Ligitan as well as the waters of Ambalat. Indonesia and the Philippines are actually brothers because the border problem was resolved by our previous leaders. For us Indonesians, Malaysia is a country of plagiarists who like to claim other people's rights. especially about our culture which they always acknowledge
Actually, Philippines is not silent in Sabah issue. Marcos Sr. Will launch "Operation blue lizard" a military operation to occupy Sabah. But the mission exposed by Benigno Aquino, so Marcos Sr. Halt the operation.
@@raulsaria2247 the military of the Philippines is so weak, how to have such move? Submarines of Malaysia will just sink all poorly equipped naval ships from the Philippines
Ako ha guys christian po ako piro stand ako sa lahi nating muslim sa sabah sa sulo sana mabawi nayan pilipino tau padaig paba tau ina angkin na ng china karagatan natin walanang patonayan sabah may patonay pa
Bullshit brother, we fougth for ULTIMATE INDEPENDENCE from COLLONIALISM, that's no word of LOVE and PEACE for INDEPENDENCE. Bloodshit just a word for COWARD ppl.
as a Sabahan, i would like to say that we are better off as a Malaysian state rather than a Philippine territory, we choose Malaysia. also, us Sabahans would rather be independent/unite with sarawak over being ruled by Manila at any day
@@rapmamori4136 Why so? Its a British Sulu agreement, not Sabah right to pay it (formerly british North Borneo, Sabah attained self rule befire decided to join Malaysia)
As soon as the Philppine President (Bong2 Marcos) came to power he took precedence to the Philippine's claim to Sabah. That's the reason why the Malaysian Parliament became rattled and the Malaysian PM immediately flew to Manila for a meeting.
Stop Delusion Every Leader Make A Visit To Neigbouring Country After They Became Prime Minister Or President By The Way Lawyer That Represent Sultanated Sulu Terrorrist Are Now Rotting In Spain Prison For Six Month And His License Was Suspend For Two Year 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Marcos junior knows that Sabah belongs to the Philippines. Because Marcos Senior even before He run for presidency in the 1960 knew that in the world map. Sabah is under the republic of the Philippines. If you look at the old maps you can see Sabah Republic of the Philippines.
So if u follow the history … Philippine is belong to Brunei …. Im from brunie … if u dare to take the sabah … remember brunie got all letter what happend before … so brunie can claim Philippine and sabah back ….
@wcoastbo ,,,Hahahaha very funny if only with a video you can confirm that a claim is TRUE, I can make a better video than the video with fake facts like the one you are watching, but as the majority of Malaysians who are honest and obey Allah's prohibitions there will be no Malaysians willing to lie just for bad things like that, but that doesn't mean we won't fight back if our country is attacked.
Looking back from ANCIENTS HISTORY, “SABAH” is part of territory of SHEBA, OPHIR(Ophirian/Filipino), & HAVILAH amongst the siblings of thirteen(13) sons of JOKTAN , as a part of divided lands of territory since Noah’s time. And JOKTAN(in Hebrew meaning small man) & PELEG(the lineage of Israelite) are the two (2) sons of EBER(Hebrew Race).😮😮😮
The people of Sabah have made the decision to be in Malaysia and this combination of countries has been recognized by the United Nations. If you want to tell history, parts of Sumatra, Singapore and the Riau islands were under the rule of Malaya. Manila The Manila Agreement was just an empty dream of the father of Indonesian prostitutes to the Japanese army because there was no objection from the Philippines because the agreement was not the defiance of the people of Malaya but the leader without the consent of the ruling Malay Sultan. The Indonesian people will keep repeating the stale news because the agreement is not recognized by the Federation of Malaya which was formed through parliamentary democracy and a constitutional King.😂🤣 Malaysia is not a republic that has to pay compensation and debts to the Queen of the Netherlands.😭😭
I'm an Indonesian watching this video just to learn history.. but I saw a lot of comments from Filipino friends saying that Sabah belongs to the Philippines... yeah I observed and learned something new... I hope it remains peaceful for my country's closest neighbors, Malaysia and the Philippines☺☺
In 1963 PH and Indo objected the inclusion of Sabah to the Malaysian Federation, cause both countries knew that Sabah belongs to the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu.
@@DigonggongDutae yeah that's right... But Sabah people and their leaders still enter Malaysia, don't they... Honestly, I don't really understand the history of other countries... for example, Malaysia... Indonesian history records that the British were colonialists, but in Malaysian history the British were heroes...
@@zhu_shi No, Sabahan did not hqve any referendum regarding thier inclusion in 1963, those in authority, majority of which are British are the one who convene and included Sabah as part of Malay State.
@@DigonggongDutae If that wasn't what they wanted from the start, why did they persist until now...? Or maybe their economy is advanced enough and decided to remain part of Malaysia...? 
@@zhu_shi time was one factor, cause every state needs to develop, Malaysia during that time was not yet that prosperous on the other hand Ph was much more wealthy than Malaysia back then, you dont own a land if you are paying rent, even if the owner died or move to other country you still dont own the land. Sabah is the same as palestine, Israel does not own the land they occupy and administer their own laws, since Sabahan wants a peacefull life and Malaysia guaranteed their state separation, eventually they are included in the Malay state, againi will insist if the land is return to the right owner with the same guarantee and through time they will embrace their new indentity as Sabahan under the rule of PH government.
I'm from Sabah and the Filipinos in Sabah come illegally and there are only a few Filipinos in Sabah in Sabah there are many other ethnicities such as Bajau Samah Kadazan Bugis and yeah we dont want to be a part of you guys@@jayb01018
@@DonS90 you must understand that we don't have our own armies... This may not be the best time to be independent from Malaysia... Not yet at least...
As i see it, the Kirams has breached the contract of a perpetuity by attacking Sabah. Malaysia is correct for cutting relations with the Kirams on this issue. The Maintenance of payment after Sabah joined Malaysia was merely good will but this good will has been destroyed by the attack by the Kirams.
The Sultanate of Sulu is the landlord, they are the owner so they will be the one to decide if they want to their land back or rent it to Malaysia 😂 lol. Use your common sense, where can u find that law that the renter is the one who decides and not the owner 😂
Hey@@badjaeauxwhy are you opening your mouth for so long? keep your mouth shut, even if you lose the debate but don't open your mouth for too long. Fear of flies laying eggs in the mouth, in two or three hours the fly's eggs will turn into maggots. if that happens the effect is very terrible.
The problem with this argument is that North Borneo was never part of Brunei. They may have had trading posts along the coast of N Borneo but the indigenous peoples had and still have their own religions, customs and culture; different from that of the Brunei state. Brunei "gave away " lands that they never owned so the rest of the arguments are invalid, the people of N Borneo weren't Brunei citizens so have the right to decide for themselves.
You absolutely right we the natives should and will choose our own direction. The so called sultan that claimed sabah are nothing but invader the Philippines should know very well about this given their country history
@@JamesDelanoMcCarthysecondacc that is not a lie sultanate of sulu own sabah.... british rent that land and paying to sultanate of sulu.... even your goverment get fighting because your goverment pay a million dollar... now where is the proof that sabah is part of malaysia??? Philippines and Sultanate of sulu have a lot of evidence....
if u base it on sabahans speaking malay, that would be contradictory to what you said about taiwan, since taiwan also speaks mandarin, just like in china....
Sabahan identified as Malaysian and already accepted to be part of Malaysia. Sabahan has the right to self determination. If they want to be Filipino they would have done so decades ago. They would have revolted and join PH but they dont.
@@xXxSkyViperxXx That is the weakest possible argument. Is Nigeria part of the USA? They speak English there, too. Malays and Taiwanese speak multiple languages, just like Filipinos and other nations in Asia, including China. Plus, the Mandarin influence is relatively new as it is a result of immigration from China promoted by the British between their colony in Hong Kong. So, your argument makes more sense to say Sabah should be British, which makes no sense at all.
@@MoralHazard-g1e it wasn't my argument. that was your argument. read your post again and see how stupid your argument was. sabah has many languages. malay is just one of them. dayak were not originally malay speaking and that too was fairly recent. also ur talk about nigeria and hong kong has no connection.
1. 1878 Treaty word of "PAJAKAN" was explained in 1903 Agreement, to mean "CESSION". Don't create hoax... 2..The payment of 5300 Malaysian dollar was not approved by Kuala Lumpur. It is the Borneo High Court decision in 1939 as estate administration payment. Check you fact..!! 3. Admin, are you living in a cave?? Paris Arbitration has been declared illegal in Madrid and also in Paris. So, no need to refer to something that illegal to justify your story..
I love how Filipinos used the Hague ruling against China when it is in their favor, but when they lost the Sabah to Malaysia, they ignore the French arbitration court. Lol
Lets assume you have a point with your argument, will Malaysia oblige on the same Arbiration regarding the payment? "THE Paris Arbitration Court has ordered the Malaysian government to pay $14.92 billion to the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu as compensation for Kuala Lumpur’s alleged failure to pay the lease for Sabah for more than seven years, Spanish media portal La Informacion reported.
@@haochentrends who says SABAH is Philippines? Sabah is own by the Sultanate of Sulu, Just like Palestine is not Israel, the land belong to the Palestinian, even if you occupy the land and you administer your laws, the truth of the fact is that the land does not belong to you.
@themalaysianpatriot3099 it is known that some of the bravest Filipino soldiers are from Sulu, these people were naturally skillful and talented strategists, hope the Philippine government protect these special and rare bloodline of warriors 🇵🇭
@@badjaeaux Yeah well you’re definitely not getting your hands on Sabah. Sabah is rightfully part of Malaysia, and any claims on Sabah will be dismissed.
@themalaysianpatriot3099 that depends on the times, before 2013 Malaysia is paying rent on Sabah to the Sulu Sultanate, if the Sulu Royals gain support from the government and the Middle Easters powers, things can change pretty quickly, enjoy Sabah while you still can, it might only be 30 years or less
@@badjaeaux What rent? Where is the agreement which states that Malaysia is “renting” Sabah from Sulu. Neither the 1878 agreement nor the official receipts ever mentioned of a rent. The money consisting of 5,300 Malaysian ringgit that is to be paid to Sulu annually is stated as cession money, not rent money. Also, what makes you think that the Middle East will support Sulu? Literally no country recognises Sulu as an independent country as it is part of the Philippines. Not even the Philippine government recognises them. So please, stop dreaming.
@hopelope1703No need because Malaysian government pay a cheap amount for least to sultanate of sulo it's proof that Malaysia knows and recognized that sultanate of sulo is original owner of Sabah why? Coz why Malaysia pay heirs of sultanate of sulo yearly when they are not the owner in the first place it's common sense.
@@Shahshyy_. ijin mau menjawab untuk soal Timor Leste memang dulu Indonesia memasukan Timor Leste bagian Indonesia adalah ilegal karena Timor Leste adalah dulu jajahan Portugis bulan Belanda...karena wilayah Indonesia adalah semua bekas jajahan Hindia Belanda saja..
@@allanhandoyo3747 kalau kamu memberi alasan timor leste x boleh gabung sama indonesia kerna beda jajahan.. maka sabah bukan jajahan spanyol seperti filipina. sabah adalah jajahan british company spt juga semenanjung dan sarawak.
Let time make the people of Sabah would want to be a part of the Philippines like they did before when they wanted to be part of Malaysia because the latter was economically wealthy than the former. When the time comes that the Philippine reaches the 'highly developed' economic status for sure those people would come rushing to the shores of the Philippines.
@@justapassione5554 seriuously put history o this, a lot of asean is part off majapahit and sriwijaya,even brunei is part off sriwijaya and majapahit, and many indonesian empire after that, give us back our teritory LOL
Very clear Sabah belongs to Philippines. Sabah is a part of Sulu and Sulu is part of the Philippines. Sultan Kiram a Filipino acts the governor of Sabah but during that time the British Company partner by Malaysian was rented that place, after the rent contract finished, it was turn over to Malaysia by British company. It should be turn over to Philippines in the hands of Sultan Kiram who acts like the governor in Sabah, Philippines. Sultan Kiram tried to get back that land but Philippines president Aquino did not support Sultan Kiram. Till Sultan Kiram became older and older and was died. Malaysia should continue to pay the Philippines for the amount rented, all natural resources by Sabah. fishing and oil and gas was benefited to Malaysia. Later, It was heared the news the twin tower tallest building Petronas in Malaysia was funded by the Sabah. So Sabah Sulu Philippines the rich island of Philippines was illegally own by Malaysia. Philippines can get back Sabah because there still have some Kiram clans son, daughter who can certify that place belongs to them. If I'm not mistaken, Sultan kirams children studied in US, one of them is Attorney Jaycel Kiram, a very kind, beautiful and talented lady attorney.
That is a false narrative created by the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak” and was agreed as such by both the British and the Sulu Sultan however the Sulu heirs of the now defunct Sulu Sultanate then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then agreed to pay 5,000 Mexican gold coins annually to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
@@Osky324 That was not rent money. Neither the agreement nor the official receipts ever state that the money was for a “rent”. The money was simply cession money that is given out of courtesy, not obligation.
The Philippines want Sabah but do not want their people who are stateless in Sabah.... Kind hearted Malaysia as always.. open their arm and heart to receive them... may Allah make them grateful.
@@Oceanfly_7th You're country is too poor that's why many pinoy go to Sabah illegally to work and live. This is applicable to all pinoy overseas who work in many other countries as blue collar workers.
@@joebidet2050 Philippines won't that, Sabah has embassy and consulate other countries (as far as Korea)... Not once have I seen one from Philippines, hence all of the stateless people in Sabah are almost entirely from Philippines
@@Spongebob-yi2hjYou can’t even show proof that Sabah is “rented” by Malaysia, if you’re so confident in that fact then show evidence. “Refute with facts and references, not hearsay”.
Philippines clearly has soverign over Sabah, as owned by Sulu Sultanate. It was not ceded, but waa victimized by pseudo ownership of the british dutch company. When they surrendered malaysia, the folls of the first govt of malysia assumed sabah was surrendered as ownership. But it wasnt. It was only given to them to take over responsibility of leasing, not buying
@hopelope1703 The British paid Sulu Sultanate USD 10M or 5000 Mexican gold coins per year to rent Sabah. It is in recorded history with thousands of banking evidence.
And what do the people of Sabah say??? The Sabah question is not just a question of ownership of real estate. If you support Hawaii being part of USA or HK freedom and Taiwan independence and even Papua being part of Indonesia then SURELY it is the Sabahans who make the ultimate choice. Not Philippines government or Malaysian government. So don't be a bunch of hypocrites.
@@rahmatizzat2216agree with them. As another Sabahan, we have said before and we will say it again. WE DON'T WANT TO BE APART OF THE PHILIPPINES. Plus, imagine the logistics at the current time to integration a whole island of people (eg: Sabah) to the Philippines that doesn't even speak the same language, have different education system, their own social problems.. and their own culture. That sound like a nightmare for the Philippines government AND the people of Sabah.
Slum dwellers always don’t recognise the legitimate owner of land they’re dwelling on. Historically we knew that land owned by Sultanate of Brunei and gave to Sultanate of Sulu. Its an effing private land. Malaysian government knew and recognised it that’s why they’re paying rent, there’s receipts until they stopped. Stay in Malaysia and identify as malaysians, just continue paying d rent.
Yang Sabah na yan kasama pa yan sa mapa ng Pilipinas during may elementary days. Kasi naalala ko, project namin yan dati na i-draw ang mapa ng Pilipinas. At ang mga mapa rati ay kasama pa ang Sabah.
The ICC already ruled infavor of the Philippines & won the Case.... Borneo is Owned & governed by the Sultan of Sulu in the Philippines even Before the colonial Era, and the Philippines even have land title over Sabah... But malaysia refused to follow by malaysia until now en their govt. Choosed to secretly suport fund & armed some terrorist/Extrimist in southern mindanao en used them against the govt. To weaken the stand of Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
If ever Philippine take control of Sabah again, I hope our lawmaker make them an autonomous region. Or better yet, make them into an independent country. We don't need SABAH to be prosperous, but due to the ruling that states that we own SABAH, we need to follow the ruling. But I would support an independent SABAH or at the very least, an Autonomous region.
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko That too I support. But it is what it is, as Filipino citizens I have an obligation to uphold the ruling, no matter how much I disagree with it.
@hopelope1703 It's been already been proven by the judge in Spain, later in France that the agreement between the Sultan of Sulu and the British North Borneo company is a "Lease" between a Private company and the Landlord, and not a Cession payment as Malaysia is claiming. Malaysia wouldn't have to be paying 14 Billion dollar for extracting resources in their own Territory if they indeed own Sabah. The fact that Malaysia isn't even trying to contest the Spanish Judges ruling and going hush hush about it is indicative that they knew that they will not win should they try to bring this to the international court.
As a Filipino, I appreciate Malaysia's recent efforts as a facilitator in bringing peace to Mindanao. Borneo, much like Alaska in the USA, is rich in natural resources and significantly contributes to Malaysia's wealth. However, I believe it is time for Filipinos to focus on our human resources. Filipinos have spread across the globe, positively impacting the world through our humble, capable, and heartfelt service. I am grateful for the peace in Mindanao that Malaysia helped achieve because the education and improved living standards of poor children in Mindanao today will bear more fruit in the future than the potential of Borneo. I hope Filipinos in Borneo are treated well.
what? Mindanao?one day we Malaysian will make that Mindanao land to become no men's land.its just a metter of time and sooner or later we get tired hearing your non stop complaining .Do u expect people in Sabah Wana eat pagpag everyday and live in a slump like Manilla?
@@themalaysianpatriot3099 The Philippines has proof that Sabah is its own. If Sabah is yours, why is your government still paying rent?... if it's yours, why are you still paying rent, the owner won't pay rent to non-owners?
@@Spongebob-yi2hj That is a false narrative created by the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak” and was agreed as such by both the British and the Sulu Sultan however the Sulu heirs of the now defunct Sulu Sultanate then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then agreed to pay 5,000 Mexican gold coins annually to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
@@Spongebob-yi2hj What’s wrong? Can’t refute my points so you resort to denial? Ironic considering you were so convinced that Sabah is “rented” by Malaysia even though I showed you undisputed proof to show you that Sabah is not rented by Malaysia. Also, the International Court of Justice also sided with Malaysia and denied any claim that Sabah is rented. As a wise person once said, “refute with facts and references, not hearsay”.
In June 2023, Malaysia secured landmark victories in the Paris Court of Appeal and the Hague Court of Appeal, demonstrating the fundamentally flawed nature of the Sulu claim and a clear step towards the collapse of the case. 1:14
I hope that one day Mindano will enter Malaysia and we will together develop the states in Malaysia together.. if it happens people from Mindano will not have to use illegal routes or use passports to enter Malaysia...
A Mindanaoan here.. that would be difficult since the majority of us, around 70% or something, are Christian Visayans who feel more culturally connected to the Hispanicized north. May work in Bangsamoro areas, I guess, but not the whole Mindanao.
There’s no other agreement but an agreement between the BNBC and the Sultan of Sulu, but Malaysia and the British after the land grabbing of Sabah are trying to incorporate and insert many new different conditions that are not inside the lease contract agreement that is in favor to Malaysia because there was already a covert intention to claim Sabah permanently in favor to Malaysia by the connivance of both the British and Malaysia. Malaysia was not a signatory to 1878 leased contract agreement because Malaysia came only into existence in 1963 as a sovereign country? Despite there was an existing agreement of 1878, The British and Malaysia ignores and invalidated this contract to give way to the illegal annexation and land grabbing of Sabah, they claim and used the word defunct to justify their claim despite the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu are running after Sabah, the legitimate owner of Sabah
That is a false narrative created by the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak” and was agreed as such by both the British and the Sulu Sultan however the Sulu heirs of the now defunct Sulu Sultanate then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then agreed to pay 5,000 Mexican gold coins annually to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
@themalaysianpatriot3099 5000 gold coins annually, and each coin today cost 2000 USD. That is USD 10M minimum per year. The British knew who originally has authority over Sabah and its people.
@@badjaeaux That 5,000 Mexican gold coin was only paid for the cession payment, not rent payment. Neither the agreement nor the official receipts ever state of a “rent”. Also, the British switch from paying the Sultan of Sulu from Mexican gold coins to the British pound and was never challenged by Sulu.
you are totally wrong on this, Claude Lee Moses sign the first agreement with Brunei Sultanate only in 1865, the same agreement sold to William Jospeh Torrey, he then sold it to Baron De Overbeck, Baron De Overbeck renew the agreement in 1877 Both Clause Lee Moses and Joseph William Torrey only deal with Brunei Sultanate for the same villages on east coast and west coast of North Borneo, including same part of now in pilipin territory, which is palawan, balabac and cagayan sulu the agreement is not about Sabah, it is just villages on the mouth of the river, there is no such as agreement about Sabah
@@themalaysianpatriot3099 the 1877 agreement is not cession of entire Sabah read the agreement carefully there is not once "Sabah" mention in that agreement, its just villages on the coastal areas, Brunei never own Sabah, most part of Sabah come into BNBC possessions by means of pledge of allegiance by the native chief to the BNBC resident, and also most part of the interior they just take it into their possession, because that areas is just thick jungle no one living there. only about 20 or more villages is "sungai tulin" which Brunei Pengiran have followers living there, that covered in the (pajak) bundle wholesale agreement with Brunei Sultanate, but in the agreement the name of the village is not mention, only the strip of areas where it is located is mention, after that agreement, BNBC still have to deal with the specific "sungai tulin" pengiran to completely surrender their right to control their followers to BNBC, there is series of agreement between BNBC and specific pengiran from 1877 right up to after 1900 until all the "sungai tulin" completely all surrendered to BNBC sulu sultanate have no existence anywhere in Sabah, they do not have anything to do with Sabah at all, they just lie about being owner of Sabah, they just claim to supposedly own some people somewhere here in Sabah, but there are no such things exist, Spanish take advantage of this sulu sultanate lies and made-up claim to recognize that sulu sultanate to supposedly own Sabah and create made up agreement to say that supposedly sulu give Sabah to Spanish, William Treacher knows this plan so he ask Baron De Overbeck to go to sulu and make a made up agreement to bypass Spanish attempt, Baron De Overbeck know that sulu have nothing to do with Sabah at all, he firstly refuse but later go along with it, and sign made up agreement with sulu sultanate, overtaking Spanish attempt by 7 months earlier there should be 2 agreements first with sultan and another one with the specific pengiran for Brunei or datu for sulu taking care of their followers in the specific villages, only Brunei Sultanate have pengirans, sulu don't have any datu taking care of any followers anywhere in Sabah, because sulu actually never ever have existence anywhere in Sabah, all their story is just lies and made up story
The Philippines claims Sabah on the basis that Sabah was said to be once under Sulu Sultanate. Descendants of former Sultan of Sulu claim that Sabah belonged to Sulu Sultanate because Sabah was given by Brunei the original owner to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei to fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given Sabah to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans. In fact on 29 December 1877, the Sultan of Brunei ceded the whole of Sabah to BNBC/British and concurrently appointed Baron Von Overback, the co-owner of BNBC as Maharajah of Sabah and Rajah of Sandakan and Gaya. This cession agreement was documented. When BNBC went to Sabah to begin their business, Sulu claimed that Sabah belonged to Sulu. BNBC agreed to enter a "pajak" agreement with Sulu after they were advised by their fellow businessmen in Hong Kong who advised that Sulu would attack them if they didn't have a deal with Sulu. This "pajak'' agreement was signed on 22 January 1878. BNBC understood that this "pajak" was a "cession", so did early generation of Sulu Sultan accepted it as "cession". Only later generation of descendants of former Sultan of Sulu claimed that the "pajak" agreement was meant to be "rent" or "lease''. Still there was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans. The two above events led to an overlapping issue on Sabah. What ever it was, the above agreement and overlapping issue were superceded by later event. On 22 July 1878, the then Sultan of Sulu had relinquished all his possession and sovereignty of Sulu and it's territories including Sabah to Spain. The Sultanate of Sulu only remained as hereditary cultural and traditional entity without any sovereign territory. In 1885, to resolve overlapping issue on Sabah and other issues involving other islands, Britain, Spain and Germany arrived to an agreement known as Madrid Protocol in which Spain surrendered Sabah to Britain. As new owner of Sabah Britain had full control and sovereignty over Sabah and they could do what ever they wanted. Sulu could not claim anything because they had already relinquished the sovereignty of Sabah to Spain and Spain surrendered Sabah to Britain. What ever happened to Sabah after that was under British jurisdiction. Even though British had full control and sovereignty of Sabah, they still honoured the annual "cession money" payment stipulated in the "pajak'' agreement as consolation for the Sulu Sultan. So did Malaysia when formed in 1963, still honoured the annual "cession money" payment as consolation for the Sulu Sultan. The term "cession money" was used because to use the term "consolation" was felt to be too degrading. Thus the term "cession money" was continually used as used before by the British. Even the argument about the word "pajak" and it's meaning in the "pajak" agreement still favoured the British. The "pajak" agreement was written in classical Malay, in jawi script (Arabic alphabet). Malay is the national language of Malaysia and Brunei, and mother tongue of majority Malaysians and Brunei. In those days, Malay was also used by people of Sulu because Malay was the "lingua franca" of this region including the present Philippines. That was why the agreement was written in Malay. But over the years Sulu people had lost their Malay language (standard Malay) because of several reasons like colonisation by different European. This made Sulu relied on translation of the agreement. Things got worse when they translated it to Sulu's local language, be it Tagalog or Tausug, which was rather translation of another translation, that they translated it to their favour. The word "pajak" carried several meanings depending on the contact used in the sentence or passage. It could mean "tax, rent, pawn, lease, or cession". In the agreement between BNBC/ British and Sulu, the word "pajak" was used together with the phrase "selama-lamanya" which meant "forever". When "pajak" was used together with the phrase"selama-lamanya", in this contact the word "pajak" meant "cession". Cession means "the formal giving up of rights, property or territory by a state". When Sulu "pajak" Sabah to BNBC it meant Sulu ceded Sabah and it meant Sabah no longer belonged to Sulu. This was further clarified. There was a second agreement which was a supplementary to the first agreement known as "Confirmation of Cession of Certain Islands Agreement". It was regarding certain islands between Sabah and Sulu which they were not sure whether they were included in the first agreement or not. In this second agreement, the word "pajak" was no longer used because they thought it might lead to misunderstanding by later generation. Instead the word "menyerahkan" which meant "surrender" was used, and the annual payment was increased from 5,000 dollars to 5,300 dollars due to certain islands included. Another example where the Philippines generally or Sulu in particular misunderstood due to wrong translation or translation to their favour, was about the clause that the territory could not be transfered to another party. Yes, there was a clause that Sabah could not be transfered to another party "... without the consent of 'Duli Queen'...". The British translated "Duli Queen" as "Her Britannic Majesty", even though it was not correct literally but it was correct in the meaning. The "... Queen" was referring to Queen Victoria, the ruler of England / Britain at that time. But Sulu translated "Duli Queen" (or rather translated from a translation) as "Their Majesties' Government". This led to an understanding that "Duli Queen" was the ruler of Sulu. The question was since when Sulu as a Muslim state had a female as their ruler (Sultanah or Queen)? The above showed that North Borneo (Sabah) had indeed been ceded to Britain, that was why it could not be transfered to another party without the consent of 'Duli Queen' (Queen Victoria), the ruler of England/ Britain at that time. And further it was stated that any dispute about the agreement had to be referred to the "Consul General" being the Queen's representative in Borneo to be resolved. It meant that outside Arbitrator had no jurisdiction over the agreement. This fact became the main reason of judgement by Paris Court of Appeal in setting aside and annulling the Paris Court (lower court) ruling awarding the heirs of the defunct Sulu Sultanate. On 31 August 1963 Britain gave independence to Sabah and before that on 22 July 1963 Sarawak was given independence. The people of Sabah and Sarawak had exercised self determination to form Malaysia together with Malaya and Singapore. The sovereignty of Sabah and Sarawak as component states of Malaysia is intact and recognized internationally and recognized by the UN. This was confirmed and clearly stated in the United Nations Malaysia Mission Report "Final Conclusion of the Secretary-General", 14 September 1963. The last sentence of the report says: "I fervently hope that the people of these territories will achieve progress and prosperity, and find their fulfillment as component states of Malaysia". Full text of the report can even be accessed from the Philippines Government Gazette website. About the arbitration award by Paris Court to Sulu of US$14.92B, it had since been set aside and annulled by Paris Court of Appeal. Here is the latest situation. Latest as in June 2023: 1. June 6th - Paris Court of Appeal had set aside and annulled the previous Paris Court (lower court) ruling awarding the heirs of the defunct Sulu Sultanate. 2. June 27th - Dutch Court of Appeal in The Haque had dismissed a bid by eight descendants of former Sultan of Sulu to enforce the arbitration award by Paris Court (lower court) ruling, and dismissed an attempt to seize Malaysian assets following the Paris Court of Appeal decision. 3. Paris Court of Appeal also imposed on Sulu €100,000.00 (Euro currency) to be paid to Malaysia as legal cost. 4. Mean while in Luxembourg, a second attempt to seize Malaysian Petronas assets had been filed in Luxembourg Court due for hearing in September 2023 after the first attempt was dismissed. This will likely be dismissed too following the Paris Court of Appeal decision. Now is already December 2023, no news about Sulu's claim proceeding in Luxembourg Court. It looked like they withdrew their case when they acknowledged the Paris Court of Appeal decision. Malaysia had spent around RM32m, equivalent to about US$6.6m to deal with these Sulu claim cases in various European courts, in Madrid, Paris, Luxembourg and Netherlands. Apart from the €100,000.00 Sulu has to pay to Malaysia as legal cost, Malaysia is planning to sue Sulu for compensation for the loss of RM32m (USD6.6m) spent.
The Spanish Arbitrator's (initialled G.S) action of bringing the Sulu claim case in Paris Court when Madrid Court had already made decision in favour of Malaysia was seen by Spanish judicial authority as Contempt of Court and Professional Intrusiveness. He was charged in Madrid Court for Contempt of Court and sentenced to 6 months imprisonment together with a ban from practising as an Arbitrator for a year. His appeal to Spanish highest court was rejected. On 8th September 2024. The Dutch Supreme Court rejected Sulu's appeal to overturn Dutch lower courts' rejection of Sulu's bid to seize Malaysian assets.
Latest news as of 6th November 2024. Paris Supreme Court rejected Sulu's appeal to overturn previous Paris Court of Appeal decision which set aside and annulled Paris Court ruling awarding Sulu US$14.92B compensation. Since the Paris Supreme Court is the highest court, the decision is final. Malaysia won. Sulu lost in all various European courts. They lost in Madrid, they lost in Paris, they lost in the Hague Netherlands, and they lost in Luxembourg.
Not an expert in history, geopolitics, legal, or international law here, but IMHO, ownership, administration and control are different matters. What could have transpired in the treaty is cessation or concession of control and administration of the territory or land of Sabah to the administering government or controlling entity at that time. Being technically part of a country does not necessarily mean the land is owned by the government of that country, as ownership remains to the original owner as provided by law or tradition, proof of which is the perpetual rental afforded (the rentee never owns the property of the rentor). Parties involved during that time recognized such ownership so why parties on this contemporary time not? There could be no argument on the desire of the Sabah people to be under their preferred nation as this is their political right, only that the land they are living is owned by private individuals residing in another country, who, in a civilized world and society, retain the rights and privileges subsequent of such ownership. No wonder the international court awarded billions of dollars in favor of the aggrieved parties, owing to the damages demanded in the breach of contract case.
hahah u phillipine so jealous of malaysia because we are more developed. even sabah ppl dont want to be in phillipines. we malaysian will protect our territory. u pinoy try to challenge us in war if u dare 😂. u guys cant even handle china
@@joelg.paramo514 if Sabah belongs to Philippine why you didn't ask America to return Hawaii to it royal family because Hawaii under private control not under America.
''Padjak'' in Malay and Tausug the term means “lease”.it is not cease or grant. The North Borneo Company agreed to the written TAUSUG aggreement signed by bought parties. The English translation was not approved by the Sultan of Sulu. IT MEANS the English translation is illegal. The Transfer of North Borneo aka SABAH of the British is illegal they should return it Instead to the Heirs Instead they favored to gve it their Malaysian colony. None payment of said rent to the Heirs means violations of the contract. No such contract are legal in international Laws without term limits in present day times.
Malaysia to end the issue must challenge the Heirs of Sulu and the Philippine government to END the dispute which Malaysia continues to avoid. How can they solidify claim the area is their own when they continue to avoid settling disputes to the International Court of Arbitration.
Actually, problems like this are very easy to overcome, you have to ask the people of Sabah, whether they want to go to the Philippines or Malaysia, that's the end of the problem.
Philippines and America have an agreement that if Americans help philippines to take-over sabah, philippines will give a designated land part of sabah to americans to become a large permanent american military base, thats why malaysia shoud watch out.
@hopelope1703Of course the U.S will not anounce it on public😅 You knew how U.S works, if they can't get it legally, they will get it under the table, like arming sulu army with stingirs for anti tank and anti aircraft capabilities, And long arm weapon. This time the sulu army are already survying the area of Sabah how they can operate, after that they will land a full scale attack including using of tunnel at mountains to avoid airstrike, and stockfile of weapon and food💪.
Dream on, Pinoy. The Philippines barely has a functioning navy, let alone an air force. And if your country dares to attack a fellow ASEAN member, be prepared for economic sanctions being imposed on the Philippines.
Malaysian renters/leasees in Sabah want to own this land. Return the land to the Philippines that you just rented. It is irrelevant to ask a renter whether he/she wants to be Malaysian or Philippines/Filipino. If you are just a renter/leasee, you don't own the land. As simple as it is.
This is a matter on how the Philippines welcome the people of Sabah as our Princess of Jolu Sulo won all the trials or cases , Court even ask the Malaysia to pay our Princess of Jolu Sulu.. Malaysia pay rent to the Princess of Julo Sulo clear enough that Sabah is a part of the Philippines ,latePres.Marcos Sr.never lost focus on people of Sabah and its case just so sad after late FEM was the beginning of more trouble,one the Aquino president was once said that people of Jolu Sulu is a terrorist but some are only defending themselves ..
@hopelope1703 thank you, you enlightened me or us about the Philippines Sabah case ,our Philippines government and Philippine Smart and good lawyers working at their best
Hope Sulu will get its RIGHT as malaysia govt. Broke the contract no mora pay the leasing.. Make referendum for some part of sabah that want in malay federation, but Sulu RIGHT in its biggest city must give back to them the legitimate ruler
That is a false narrative created by the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak” and was agreed as such by both the British and the Sulu Sultan however the Sulu heirs of the now defunct Sulu Sultanate then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then agreed to pay 5,000 Mexican gold coins annually to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
The Government of Malaysia has obtained a final landmark victory today at the Supreme Court of the Netherlands, which ruled in favour of Malaysia and dismissed the appeal filed by the Sulu Claimants. The Supreme Court decision, which is final and authoritative, brings to an end to the Claimants' attempts to enforce their illegitimate claims against Malaysia in the Netherlands.
This remarkable Supreme Court decision endorsed the decision of the Hague Court of Appeal of 27 June 2023, which upheld Malaysia’s challenge against the Claimants' application in the Netherlands to recognise and enforce the purported "Final Award", rendered in Paris by Dr. Gonzalo Stampa on 28 February 2022.
Whenever a territory slips away from the hands of the British, things go complicated. Look what happened here to Sabah look what happened to Palestine. Look what happened to most countries to India and in Africa. See the pattern.
The major arguments should be what UN survey result has said 1963. People of Sabah desires not old kingdom that tries to regain control and subjected civilised people to submit to them. Non suluk is majority of Sabah. They never submitted to any Suluk kingdom. This is the basis for populated territory for unpopulated territory papers work... But people inspiration rule in this case. It is clear as in ICJ ruling.
Philippine owned sabah is a fact, but ain't no way we have to deal more islamic insurgency especially from the land that regularly supply local muslim rebels and terrorist in the philippines
@@jamie3226 kung ganun ka dali, matagal na sana natalo ng sundalo ang MILF, MNLF, BIFF, Abusayaf at NPA, at naiwasan nyo pa ang paggawa ng BARMM napagod na kami dito mga mabait na Kristyano at Muslim sa Mindanao nasundin ang interest ng Manila para sa Pilipinas habang pinag iwanan at pinaharap pa ng problema ng walang tulong galing sa kapitolyo ayaw talaga namin ng extremist at masayang ang gastos sa imbestment ng Mindanao para mag arang, mapunta ulit sa giyera
@@darkflamemaster6541wala interest ang karamihan na pinoy makuha yan dahil muslim Region ang sabah pero kung naging christian yan mapalitan ang goberno kunin yan due to public demand.
Kinda ironic the words from the person where their Land allowed the citizens to have their own guns as "Hobby" to blame other land for their rebel and terrorist movement. Crime, Rebel, Terrorist was already your blood and there was nothing to do with us. Talk to your Spain and USA about that.
@@Ffaizal2336 muslim separatis in thailand and philippines creating trouble are migrant from malaysia we all know it here in SEA malaysia is a funder of terrorist in SEA.
I'm tausug we are not pinoy Spanish slave... My ancestors fight the aggressor why we must join them now? The Spanish didn't even win against moro... We are not pinoy (Spanish slave)
because of the political turmoil and the separatist Moro that malaysia took advantage of to support So Sabah was no longer taken care of but now the political instability of the country is fixed it will be taken back in
This is correct. The Sultanate of Brunei was the one who ceded North Borneo (Sabah) to the British North Borneo Company under the 1877 agreement which states as such. This agreement alone overrides any deals made between the Sultanate of Sulu and the British North Borneo Company involving North Borneo (Sabah) as Sulu never owned that territory.
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In the early 1963 before Malaysia was born /still North Borneo the Visit of Dayang/Princess Tarhata on The Field of Foot Ball at Sandakan Town Hall was met by crowded of people .On her returned she brought money fulled in samsonite .Before the clock tower at round about there was a certain Rest House of Sultanate of Sulu,but was demolished by Chinese Do.at that time in simulation of constructing road to labuk and curving down to forner Post Office and Town Board buildings.
Malaysia has benefited greatly in this area with their claim to the SABAH of the PHILIPPINES for several decades until now. 🦅🇵🇭👊🏾 May the rightful owner prevail as soon as possible in the name of Jesus the Nazarene. 🙏🏻
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@hopelope1703 WHY DID BRUNEI GIVE SABAH TO THE PHILIPPINES ⁉️ {legit history} This was during the period when the Sultanate was in its 'golden era'. In 1658, the Sultan of Brunei ceded the northern and eastern portion of Borneo to the Sultanate of Sulu in compensation for the latter's help in settling the Brunei Civil War in the Brunei Sultanate. 🇵🇭🙏🏻🇧🇳
why do we always make a fuss about remote islands, even though there is Sabah which is wider and rich in oil resources, historically Sabah is part of the Philippines, if there is a war with Malaysia I am sure the Philippines will win.
Historically sabah is part of Brunei. I am from Brunei and the sulu didn't sent helps during the uprising in Brunei. So, sulu breach the contract. Sabah already chose to be with malaysia. So just let bygone be bygone. Sabah people have their own right to choose. Are Philippines try to take sabah's right? Do Philippines want to take sabah freedom? The colonizers left Asean years ago. Do Philippines want to take their job?
@hopelope1703 SABAH BELONGS TO THE PHILIPPINES, since the Sultanate of Brunei gave it to the Sultanate of Sulu. The British North Borneo Company leased it from Sulu during their occupation of the island and Malaysia government has been paying the heirs of Sulu Sultanate until 2013. The payment is rent, not cession, as indicated in the agreement. Malaysia cannot claim Sabah because in the first place, Malaysia was a new country, only formed as a country in 1963 when Sarawak, Sabah (called North Borneo during British occupation), Singapore, and Malay Peninsula confederated with each other (Singapore left in 1965 to be independent of its own). The Sultanate of Sulu, being part of the formation of the Republic of the Philippines, ceded its territories to the Philippine government. The Sultanate of Sulu has been a sovereign kingdom or nation that existed since the Islamic invasion of South East Asian islands during the latter reign of Madjapahit (Indian/Hindu) Empire in 1400s. Therefore, the people that resides in Sabah should accept this historical fact and the Malaysian government should respect this historical agreement too. The agreement was written in Malay Language and the contested word is not cession but rent. There are around 800,000 Filipinos residing in Sabah today according to an estimate
Salam good morning beautiful Sabah belongs to Malaysia from 1888 and what you whan about it the history is remains with dear brunai and British Indonesia I was born in Malaysia in 1952 please my dear presidents of Filipino please forget about it from uncle azlan Shah British Malaysian parti buntar Keiran Perak alamdullila
Sultanate of Sulu has the soverieng rights for Sabah not the Malaysia.. let's unite to retake Sabah from Malaysia..Alhamdullilah..allahuhh akhbar!!!!!!!!!!!!
As Indonesia we stand with PH, we all know malaysia federate was traitor, its broke the promises with Soekarno and indonesian that support their independence trully self govt but they choose giveaway from colonial, also with Sulu Heirs
@@abdulmahyadiharis1293 thats not how law works buddy, if you own a piece off land and have a title/documents of the land to support your claim then you own the land, Sultan of sulu has it, you dont have to go back to history to know that simple fact, you sound stupid srsly.
Yes Sabah belongs to the Philippines BUT Philippines do NOT WANT Eastern Sabah. Personally I dont think that's a pretty island so Malaysia can have it lol. 😂 Philippines just do not actively go for Sabah. But PHILIPPINES will fight nail and tooth for the West Philippine Sea where there is rich oil, gas reserves and natural resources❤
@hopelope1703 you're delusional! Haha Go back to school 🤣 Sabah belongs to the Philippines but you can claim it, it is not a pretty island. It's more of a liability than an asset that's why Philippines is giving it away. Good riddance
@hopelope1703 I don't even read your comments because you do not make any sense. You're delusional to even think Eastern Sabah belongs to Malaysia. That used to be a part of Spanish Philippines.
@hopelope1703 I did not read it all dumb. I skimmed. I read a line or two and stopped because you kept spewing nonsense 😒 😆 🤣 But as I said Philippines doesn't like Easter Sabah we get rid of it. Malaysia can have it. First of all, no one goes to Eastern Sabah for travel. It's not a pretty island. We have Palawan, Boracay and many gem of an island.. Eastern Sabah is nothing for tourism. Also, Philippines has a rich Deuterium oil and gas in Mindanao, not Eastern Sabah so we don't need that part for energy and power. Its more of a liability than an asset for Philippines. Sprarlys is a very different story for the Philippines though and we Filipinos will never give up on WPS. That's worth 26 Trillions.
If Malaysian go to Sabah, they need to go to immigration and only have limited days to stay it looks like they are foreigners visiting in another country. 😂😂😂 It is one of the proof that Malaya is not the real owner of Sabah 😂😂😂 Sabah is just a milking cow of Malaya, Sabah contributed much GDP for Malaysia compared to other state but Sabah is the poorest state of Malaysia😂😂😂
Honestly none of this 2 country will take sabah ,they want to be independent they say ,they need support of super power country to do it .otherwise they gonna end up like Palestinian in Gaza.
Err u wrong there. Malaysian from West Malaysia need immigration clearance for BOTH SARAWAK & SABAH. These 2 territories join formerly British Malaya (West Malaysia) to form MALAYSIA. part of the agreement to join Malaysia is tht both Sarawak & Sabah retain their autonomy in immigration as well as other things. People from Sabah & Sarawak can enter West Malaysia without immigration and can purchase land/house, work & study without needing a visa. While people from West Malaysia need a visa and cannot easily buy land/house, doing business or study easily in Sabah & Sarawak. So in a way, Malaysian born in Sabah/Sarawak enjoy more privilege than Malaysian born in West Malaysia.
Malaysia is a Federal Country not like your Unitary Country. So dont ever compare your Unitary Country to us. As a Federation Country, Every state in Malaysia has their own Sovereignty in terms of Law, Leader, Flag, Nation Anthem, Coat of Arm. Unlike your Unitary everything is united under a single government. We as Malaysians don't see it as an issue because we respect the right of each state to have their own Law in order to protect their own people. Respect and Tolerant is our own way to maintain peach
Malaysia is Federal country Bro, you need to Understand what mean by "Federal" Before embarrassing yourself. Sabah is not Poorest state in Malaysia, It's just slow develop due to the less dense population in large area but still it's economy is far more better When compared to other Malay states The Poorest economy in Malaysia located in several Malay state in West Malaysia, I rather to call it lowest than Poorest.
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Malaysia betrayed the Manila Agreement when it founded the Federation of Malaya. As Indonesians, we all know that Malaysia betrayed the agreement and trusted its colonial masters, namely England. We are also disappointed with the Philippines who remained silent when Malaysia betrayed Malaysia even though we fought in Sabah and Sarawak against the British army and the Gurkhas over Malaysia's betrayal. Our confrontation is aimed at disbanding the Malayan Federation which is not in accordance with the Manila Agreement.
Actually, the Philippines became a victim of Foreign Interventionism from Malaysia thru Sen. Benigno Aquino Sr. the then Main Opposition of the Marcos Sr. Administration, which is linked with Malaysia, and after the ouster of Marcos then, the Wife of Aquino, takeover as President and restored the Diplomatic Relations with Malaysia with Mahatir visiting her in Malacañang Palace, and created an agreement to weaken the Philippines claims on Sabah by creating a new Constitution, which also weaken Philippines claims on West Philippine Sea(Scarborough Shoal, Spratly Islands), where Vietnam and Malaysia started to occupied then.
@@romeocivilino6667 They also claim the islands of Sipadan and Ligitan as well as the waters of Ambalat. Indonesia and the Philippines are actually brothers because the border problem was resolved by our previous leaders. For us Indonesians, Malaysia is a country of plagiarists who like to claim other people's rights. especially about our culture which they always acknowledge
@@blackdot_poppunkI thought Indonesia brought the case to ICJ, and Indonesia lost the case, now the whole area belongs to Malaysia.
Actually, Philippines is not silent in Sabah issue. Marcos Sr. Will launch "Operation blue lizard" a military operation to occupy Sabah. But the mission exposed by Benigno Aquino, so Marcos Sr. Halt the operation.
@@raulsaria2247 the military of the Philippines is so weak, how to have such move? Submarines of Malaysia will just sink all poorly equipped naval ships from the Philippines
Im pilipino yes mababawe na namin ang sabah para yan sa mga kapatid naming muslim yan love you all muslim naway tayo mga pilipino magka isa sa lahat
@@gmspeedmotovlog6248 sabahan people doesn't want eat pag pag
Karamihan ng mga tao sa Sabah ay Tausug, ang nga taga Sulu ay Tausug, kaya sa Pilipinas talaga dapat yang Sabah.
@@af5411do you even know what Pag-pag is? Or you just randomly hear it from some comments or vids and just randomly use it in these kinds of things.
@@BenchAmindalan-y4sthe biggest ethnic group in sabah is the kadazandusun. don't spread lies just to claim sabah 😂
Ako ha guys christian po ako piro stand ako sa lahi nating muslim sa sabah sa sulo sana mabawi nayan pilipino tau padaig paba tau ina angkin na ng china karagatan natin walanang patonayan sabah may patonay pa
As a Filipino we don't want unnecessary bloodshed for that piece of land. We are peace loving people and we love Malaysians and other SEA neighbors.
Bullshit brother, we fougth for ULTIMATE INDEPENDENCE from COLLONIALISM, that's no word of LOVE and PEACE for INDEPENDENCE.
Bloodshit just a word for COWARD ppl.
Philippines attacked Sabah in 1985, 2000 and 2013 but failed, is it love of peace or just a joke
Piece of land... SABAH IS AS BIG AS MINDANAO.. MANGMANG KA TALAGA
@@Coboy_juniorwoohh hold your horses MALAYSIA FUNDED THE TERRORIST IN SOUTHERN PHILIPPINES
@@Coboy_junior its not the goverment who attacked sabah.. its the sulatn's arm men.
as a Sabahan, i would like to say that we are better off as a Malaysian state rather than a Philippine territory, we choose Malaysia. also, us Sabahans would rather be independent/unite with sarawak over being ruled by Manila at any day
@@nocheavensonno tell to Malaysian government to pay its rent then, they already paying that before, just continue the payment they stopped..
never said i liked nor wanted to do anything with the malaysian gov in any way but okay you believe what you wanna believe 😂
@@nocheavensonno just continue the payment problem solve 🤷♂️
@@rapmamori4136 Why so? Its a British Sulu agreement, not Sabah right to pay it (formerly british North Borneo, Sabah attained self rule befire decided to join Malaysia)
@@oooshafiqooo ok mate its yours
As soon as the Philppine President (Bong2 Marcos) came to power he took precedence to the Philippine's claim to Sabah. That's the reason why the Malaysian Parliament became rattled and the Malaysian PM immediately flew to Manila for a meeting.
Really? You didn't know that's Malaysian PM goes to Philippines to claim Philippines as a Malaysia Federation!
Stop Delusion Every Leader Make A Visit To Neigbouring Country After They Became Prime Minister Or President By The Way Lawyer That Represent Sultanated Sulu Terrorrist Are Now Rotting In Spain Prison For Six Month And His License Was Suspend For Two Year 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pack all your things and go to Malaysia
they know they stole sabah from the philippines.
Marcos junior knows that Sabah belongs to the Philippines. Because Marcos Senior even before He run for presidency in the 1960 knew that in the world map. Sabah is under the republic of the Philippines. If you look at the old maps you can see Sabah Republic of the Philippines.
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Then take all your Indonesian people in Malaysia and go to work at Philippines lah bro... Lol
Malaysia support West Papua
i support maluku selatan....acheh merdeka....papua merdeka
Penjajah jawa wkwkw
@@DonS90dijajah Bangladesh 🇲🇾
So if u follow the history … Philippine is belong to Brunei …. Im from brunie … if u dare to take the sabah … remember brunie got all letter what happend before … so brunie can claim Philippine and sabah back ….
i think 60% of borneo can be claimed by brunei.
really? 😂😂😂
@@gozxc702🇮🇩🇮🇩💪💪
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@wcoastbo
,,,Hahahaha very funny if only with a video you can confirm that a claim is TRUE, I can make a better video than the video with fake facts like the one you are watching, but as the majority of Malaysians who are honest and obey Allah's prohibitions there will be no Malaysians willing to lie just for bad things like that, but that doesn't mean we won't fight back if our country is attacked.
Looking back from ANCIENTS HISTORY, “SABAH” is part of territory of SHEBA, OPHIR(Ophirian/Filipino), & HAVILAH amongst the siblings of thirteen(13) sons of JOKTAN , as a part of divided lands of territory since Noah’s time.
And JOKTAN(in Hebrew meaning small man) & PELEG(the lineage of Israelite) are the two (2) sons of EBER(Hebrew Race).😮😮😮
it came from the tree called saba idiot
The people of Sabah have made the decision to be in Malaysia and this combination of countries has been recognized by the United Nations. If you want to tell history, parts of Sumatra, Singapore and the Riau islands were under the rule of Malaya.
Manila The Manila Agreement was just an empty dream of the father of Indonesian prostitutes to the Japanese army because there was no objection from the Philippines because the agreement was not the defiance of the people of Malaya but the leader without the consent of the ruling Malay Sultan. The Indonesian people will keep repeating the stale news because the agreement is not recognized by the Federation of Malaya which was formed through parliamentary democracy and a constitutional King.😂🤣 Malaysia is not a republic that has to pay compensation and debts to the Queen of the Netherlands.😭😭
Riau ruled by malaya he said....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Says maling.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Dream on moron,... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wkwkwk antek enggres malaydes king of halusinasi 😂
@@putraroum9203 hahaha lucu kowe arep komen nganggo basa inggris malah ora ngerti, komenmu koyok rojak jawa
you mean bribed. believe me the common folks did not even know they were sold.
I'm an Indonesian watching this video just to learn history..
but I saw a lot of comments from Filipino friends saying that Sabah belongs to the Philippines...
yeah I observed and learned something new...
I hope it remains peaceful for my country's closest neighbors, Malaysia and the Philippines☺☺
In 1963 PH and Indo objected the inclusion of Sabah to the Malaysian Federation, cause both countries knew that Sabah belongs to the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu.
@@DigonggongDutae
yeah that's right...
But Sabah people and their leaders still enter Malaysia, don't they...
Honestly, I don't really understand the history of other countries...
for example, Malaysia...
Indonesian history records that the British were colonialists, but in Malaysian history the British were heroes...
@@zhu_shi No, Sabahan did not hqve any referendum regarding thier inclusion in 1963, those in authority, majority of which are British are the one who convene and included Sabah as part of Malay State.
@@DigonggongDutae
If that wasn't what they wanted from the start, why did they persist until now...? Or maybe their economy is advanced enough and decided to remain part of Malaysia...?

@@zhu_shi time was one factor, cause every state needs to develop, Malaysia during that time was not yet that prosperous on the other hand Ph was much more wealthy than Malaysia back then, you dont own a land if you are paying rent, even if the owner died or move to other country you still dont own the land. Sabah is the same as palestine, Israel does not own the land they occupy and administer their own laws, since Sabahan wants a peacefull life and Malaysia guaranteed their state separation, eventually they are included in the Malay state, againi will insist if the land is return to the right owner with the same guarantee and through time they will embrace their new indentity as Sabahan under the rule of PH government.
The original owner of Sabah is Brunei. He was the first Sultan ever to rule Sabah.
The best solution is let Sabah as an independent state.
Why ?
many people in sabah is pilipino
@@jayb01018 you must be dreaming...
I'm from Sabah and the Filipinos in Sabah come illegally and there are only a few Filipinos in Sabah in Sabah there are many other ethnicities such as Bajau Samah Kadazan Bugis and yeah we dont want to be a part of you guys@@jayb01018
@@jayb01018most of it's population is Malay Ethnic (not arguing)
As a Filipino this is my simple opinion.. if Sabahans voted to be part of Malaysia then let them be part of Malaysia. Peripd.
Not all sabahan wants to be part of malaysia.. sabahan wants an independence country like singapore
many people in sabah is pilipino
@@jayb01018 maybe because they work there.. im indonesian working in tawau sabah . many filipina here from mindanau
@@jayb01018not really
@@DonS90 you must understand that we don't have our own armies... This may not be the best time to be independent from Malaysia... Not yet at least...
As i see it, the Kirams has breached the contract of a perpetuity by attacking Sabah. Malaysia is correct for cutting relations with the Kirams on this issue. The Maintenance of payment after Sabah joined Malaysia was merely good will but this good will has been destroyed by the attack by the Kirams.
The Sultanate of Sulu is the landlord, they are the owner so they will be the one to decide if they want to their land back or rent it to Malaysia 😂 lol.
Use your common sense, where can u find that law that the renter is the one who decides and not the owner 😂
@hopelope1703 Malaysia 🇲🇾 only became a sovereign nation in 1963
Hey@@badjaeauxwhy are you opening your mouth for so long? keep your mouth shut, even if you lose the debate but don't open your mouth for too long. Fear of flies laying eggs in the mouth, in two or three hours the fly's eggs will turn into maggots. if that happens the effect is very terrible.
@sharpenkeytone don't be stupid, we are on our way to your place, see how tough u are, say your good byes and give to the poor
@sharpenkeytone i am sharpening a pencil for your mouth little piggy
The problem with this argument is that North Borneo was never part of Brunei. They may have had trading posts along the coast of N Borneo but the indigenous peoples had and still have their own religions, customs and culture; different from that of the Brunei state. Brunei "gave away " lands that they never owned so the rest of the arguments are invalid, the people of N Borneo weren't Brunei citizens so have the right to decide for themselves.
You absolutely right we the natives should and will choose our own direction. The so called sultan that claimed sabah are nothing but invader the Philippines should know very well about this given their country history
Sabah is Philippines through history of legal agreement with the full support by documents of paper that's own by sultanate of Sulu in Philippines
Sabah is majority Muslim so It should be Part of Malaysia
It belong to Philippines
@@hasinabegum1038 Sulu is a Muslim region of the Philippines
Sabah, Philippines not Malaysia
@@hasinabegum1038 thats a stupid claim. Mindanao is also Muslim so Sabah is Philippines
full support for philippines. sabah is philipines. 🇮🇩❤️🇵🇭
Thank you my indo brother ❤
@@rodlapuz4891semenanjung benar benar boneka british,karena mengingkari perjanjian antara indonesia,philipines,dan malaya😊
Brother, you're not even in Sabah
@@sastrosastro484mende ko cakap ni
kalau malaysian governmet paham, bukan seluruh sabah mau ambil balik itu saja
Sabah is a rightful Malaysian state, no exceptions.
Sabah, Philippines ❤
Say goodbye forever to West Philippines Sea , it's owned by China now 😂😂
Dream on Philippines Spanish 😂
Pay attention to your geography class. Sabah is part of Malaysia, not the Philippines.
Yes Sabah, Philippines ❤
mindanao malaysia
Bro stop with lies Philippines never officially claimed Sabah as theirs ans Sulu Sultanate is not Philippines
@@JamesDelanoMcCarthysecondacc that is not a lie sultanate of sulu own sabah.... british rent that land and paying to sultanate of sulu.... even your goverment get fighting because your goverment pay a million dollar... now where is the proof that sabah is part of malaysia??? Philippines and Sultanate of sulu have a lot of evidence....
@@tariqseifain3811 lies bro
@@tariqseifain3811 Sulu Sultanate didn't even own Sabah check on maps and it'll show Sabah as malay not Filipino
As a Filipino, I say Sabah is 💯% Malaysian. The people there are Malay, not Pinoy! To claim otherwise is like saying Taiwan is part of China.
if u base it on sabahans speaking malay, that would be contradictory to what you said about taiwan, since taiwan also speaks mandarin, just like in china....
Sabahan identified as Malaysian and already accepted to be part of Malaysia. Sabahan has the right to self determination. If they want to be Filipino they would have done so decades ago. They would have revolted and join PH but they dont.
@@xXxSkyViperxXx That is the weakest possible argument. Is Nigeria part of the USA? They speak English there, too. Malays and Taiwanese speak multiple languages, just like Filipinos and other nations in Asia, including China. Plus, the Mandarin influence is relatively new as it is a result of immigration from China promoted by the British between their colony in Hong Kong. So, your argument makes more sense to say Sabah should be British, which makes no sense at all.
@@MoralHazard-g1e it wasn't my argument. that was your argument. read your post again and see how stupid your argument was. sabah has many languages. malay is just one of them. dayak were not originally malay speaking and that too was fairly recent. also ur talk about nigeria and hong kong has no connection.
stupidest reply I have ever seen
1. 1878 Treaty word of "PAJAKAN" was explained in 1903 Agreement, to mean "CESSION".
Don't create hoax...
2..The payment of 5300 Malaysian dollar was not approved by Kuala Lumpur.
It is the Borneo High Court decision in 1939 as estate administration payment.
Check you fact..!!
3. Admin, are you living in a cave??
Paris Arbitration has been declared illegal in Madrid and also in Paris. So, no need to refer to something that illegal to justify your story..
The Phil Sabah claim had been dormant for a long time but it was not abandoned.
You lost the court recently so no need to comments anymore
@@Eye-xg9bzWhich court?
I love how Filipinos used the Hague ruling against China when it is in their favor, but when they lost the Sabah to Malaysia, they ignore the French arbitration court. Lol
Lets assume you have a point with your argument, will Malaysia oblige on the same Arbiration regarding the payment? "THE Paris Arbitration Court has ordered the Malaysian government to pay $14.92 billion to the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu as compensation for Kuala Lumpur’s alleged failure to pay the lease for Sabah for more than seven years, Spanish media portal La Informacion reported.
The sulu heiress win they own Sabah part of the Philippines therefore still continue battle in international court
no dont worry sabah is not philippines interest just few idiots who want to create tension and benefit from the money of few individual
@@haochentrends who says SABAH is Philippines? Sabah is own by the Sultanate of Sulu, Just like Palestine is not Israel, the land belong to the Palestinian, even if you occupy the land and you administer your laws, the truth of the fact is that the land does not belong to you.
French arbitration court isn't The Hague...lol!
Sultan of Sulu 🇵🇭 brave hero, thank you Sultan of Brunei 🇧🇳 for the awesome generous gift
The Sultan of Brunei never gave Sabah to Sulu as a gift. They did however ceded Sabah to the BNBC.
@themalaysianpatriot3099 it is known that some of the bravest Filipino soldiers are from Sulu, these people were naturally skillful and talented strategists, hope the Philippine government protect these special and rare bloodline of warriors 🇵🇭
@@badjaeaux Yeah well you’re definitely not getting your hands on Sabah. Sabah is rightfully part of Malaysia, and any claims on Sabah will be dismissed.
@themalaysianpatriot3099 that depends on the times, before 2013 Malaysia is paying rent on Sabah to the Sulu Sultanate, if the Sulu Royals gain support from the government and the Middle Easters powers, things can change pretty quickly, enjoy Sabah while you still can, it might only be 30 years or less
@@badjaeaux What rent? Where is the agreement which states that Malaysia is “renting” Sabah from Sulu. Neither the 1878 agreement nor the official receipts ever mentioned of a rent. The money consisting of 5,300 Malaysian ringgit that is to be paid to Sulu annually is stated as cession money, not rent money. Also, what makes you think that the Middle East will support Sulu? Literally no country recognises Sulu as an independent country as it is part of the Philippines. Not even the Philippine government recognises them. So please, stop dreaming.
Sabah , Malaysia 🇲🇾
Sabah pilipinas 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Sabah legally territory of Philippines but occupied by Malaysian Government
@hopelope1703No need because Malaysian government pay a cheap amount for least to sultanate of sulo it's proof that Malaysia knows and recognized that sultanate of sulo is original owner of Sabah why? Coz why Malaysia pay heirs of sultanate of sulo yearly when they are not the owner in the first place it's common sense.
SALAM DARI INDONESIA
SAYA MENDUKUNG SABAH BAGIAN DARI FILIPINA
Salam... Saya sokong supaya kolonial Nkri mundur dari negara Papua, acheh, Sumatera, Kalimantan... Maluku mengikut jejak Timor Leste.
@@halmyyusoff5696timur leste buat rujukan hahaha 😂 timor Leste itu memang bukan bagian dari Indonesia 😂
SALAM DARI MALAYSIA
SAYA MENDUKUNG ACHEH, RIAU, KEPULAUAN RIAU DAN PROVINSI² DI SUMATERA MERDEKA DARI REPUBLIK INDONESIA.
@@Shahshyy_. ijin mau menjawab untuk soal Timor Leste memang dulu Indonesia memasukan Timor Leste bagian Indonesia adalah ilegal karena Timor Leste adalah dulu jajahan Portugis bulan Belanda...karena wilayah Indonesia adalah semua bekas jajahan Hindia Belanda saja..
@@allanhandoyo3747 kalau kamu memberi alasan timor leste x boleh gabung sama indonesia kerna beda jajahan.. maka sabah bukan jajahan spanyol seperti filipina. sabah adalah jajahan british company spt juga semenanjung dan sarawak.
As Indonesian I think Sabah belongs to Philippines
@hopelope1703 sabah Philippines
Let time make the people of Sabah would want to be a part of the Philippines like they did before when they wanted to be part of Malaysia because the latter was economically wealthy than the former. When the time comes that the Philippine reaches the 'highly developed' economic status for sure those people would come rushing to the shores of the Philippines.
Lol they are renting the place and we are the land lord. They are squatting
That's for sure , they will go back to the jurisdiction of the Philippines .. 😊
A large part of Phillipines and Indonesia historically belong to brunei. Give back our territory!
@@justapassione5554 seriuously put history o this, a lot of asean is part off majapahit and sriwijaya,even brunei is part off sriwijaya and majapahit, and many indonesian empire after that, give us back our teritory LOL
Go claim your territory 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rent is mentioned here
The Sultanate of Sulu, the Philippines is the OWNER!
Sabah Philippines 🇵🇭, greeting from Indonesia.
even Sabahan dont want be apart of Philippines 😂
Sabah is part of Malaysia.
Aceh is Aceh, respect from Malaysia 🇲🇾
(Hear me out bruh, I actually want peace)
@@RANDOMALAYSIANnahh im aceh lokseumawe we’re part of indonesian republic
@@RANDOMALAYSIANhi acehnese here, we love our country indonesia.. wr support the philippines
Very clear Sabah belongs to Philippines. Sabah is a part of Sulu and Sulu is part of the Philippines. Sultan Kiram a Filipino acts the governor of Sabah but during that time the British Company partner by Malaysian was rented that place, after the rent contract finished, it was turn over to Malaysia by British company. It should be turn over to Philippines in the hands of Sultan Kiram who acts like the governor in Sabah, Philippines. Sultan Kiram tried to get back that land but Philippines president Aquino did not support Sultan Kiram. Till Sultan Kiram became older and older and was died. Malaysia should continue to pay the Philippines for the amount rented, all natural resources by Sabah. fishing and oil and gas was benefited to Malaysia. Later, It was heared the news the twin tower tallest building Petronas in Malaysia was funded by the Sabah. So Sabah Sulu Philippines the rich island of Philippines was illegally own by Malaysia. Philippines can get back Sabah because there still have some Kiram clans son, daughter who can certify that place belongs to them. If I'm not mistaken, Sultan kirams children studied in US, one of them is Attorney Jaycel Kiram, a very kind, beautiful and talented lady attorney.
That is a false narrative created by the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak” and was agreed as such by both the British and the Sulu Sultan however the Sulu heirs of the now defunct Sulu Sultanate then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then agreed to pay 5,000 Mexican gold coins annually to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
You have bigger problems
Mindanao wants to secede
@@themalaysianpatriot3099 they paid the descendants of sulu rent money until 2012
@@Osky324 That was not rent money. Neither the agreement nor the official receipts ever state that the money was for a “rent”. The money was simply cession money that is given out of courtesy, not obligation.
Let the international court of justice decide.
The Philippines want Sabah but do not want their people who are stateless in Sabah....
Kind hearted Malaysia as always.. open their arm and heart to receive them... may Allah make them grateful.
Philippines don't have stateless people like Malaysia 😂 lol
If Sabah under Philippines Governance, there will be no stateless people in Sabah.
@@Oceanfly_7th th-cam.com/video/zERyKrfOQu8/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
@@Oceanfly_7th You're country is too poor that's why many pinoy go to Sabah illegally to work and live. This is applicable to all pinoy overseas who work in many other countries as blue collar workers.
Ok
So open a philippines consulate in kota kinabalu
Where Filipinos can register their children and hence no longer stateless
@@joebidet2050 Philippines won't that, Sabah has embassy and consulate other countries (as far as Korea)... Not once have I seen one from Philippines, hence all of the stateless people in Sabah are almost entirely from Philippines
Sabah is Philippines.. love from Aceh Indonesia
What undisputed proof do you have that the Philippines have legal claims over Sabah?
@@themalaysianpatriot3099 Sabah belong to the Philippines
@@Spongebob-yi2hj Then show undisputed proof which states as such. Stop spouting nonsense.
@@themalaysianpatriot3099 what is wrong with you, do not claime everything you don't have.. Sabah is Philippines teritory
@@Spongebob-yi2hjYou can’t even show proof that Sabah is “rented” by Malaysia, if you’re so confident in that fact then show evidence. “Refute with facts and references, not hearsay”.
Sabah Philippines❤️
Sabah belongs to sultanate of sulu
Sultanate of Sulu belongs to Philippines
Keep dreaming as always
Sabah, Philippines so beautiful, I want to visit there.
Learn geography and national borders. Sabah is a Malaysian state, not a Philippine province.
Philippines clearly has soverign over Sabah, as owned by Sulu Sultanate. It was not ceded, but waa victimized by pseudo ownership of the british dutch company. When they surrendered malaysia, the folls of the first govt of malysia assumed sabah was surrendered as ownership. But it wasnt. It was only given to them to take over responsibility of leasing, not buying
@hopelope1703 The British paid Sulu Sultanate USD 10M or 5000 Mexican gold coins per year to rent Sabah. It is in recorded history with thousands of banking evidence.
@hopelope1703 hey copy and paste never understand the word "RENT" just pack-up your things and leave PERIOD
And what do the people of Sabah say??? The Sabah question is not just a question of ownership of real estate. If you support Hawaii being part of USA or HK freedom and Taiwan independence and even Papua being part of Indonesia then SURELY it is the Sabahans who make the ultimate choice. Not Philippines government or Malaysian government. So don't be a bunch of hypocrites.
the people of Sabah has an easy choice, they will choose the more effective currency
From Sabah, I choose Malaysia... For now...
@@rahmatizzat2216agree with them.
As another Sabahan, we have said before and we will say it again. WE DON'T WANT TO BE APART OF THE PHILIPPINES.
Plus, imagine the logistics at the current time to integration a whole island of people (eg: Sabah) to the Philippines that doesn't even speak the same language, have different education system, their own social problems.. and their own culture. That sound like a nightmare for the Philippines government AND the people of Sabah.
Slum dwellers always don’t recognise the legitimate owner of land they’re dwelling on. Historically we knew that land owned by Sultanate of Brunei and gave to Sultanate of Sulu. Its an effing private land. Malaysian government knew and recognised it that’s why they’re paying rent, there’s receipts until they stopped. Stay in Malaysia and identify as malaysians, just continue paying d rent.
@@rapmamori4136 yes.. and the sky is pink. Thank you
Yang Sabah na yan kasama pa yan sa mapa ng Pilipinas during may elementary days. Kasi naalala ko, project namin yan dati na i-draw ang mapa ng Pilipinas. At ang mga mapa rati ay kasama pa ang Sabah.
Low quality of Philippines education. you even can draw the whole earth belong to Philippines and keep dreaming as always!
The ICC already ruled infavor of the Philippines & won the Case.... Borneo is Owned & governed by the Sultan of Sulu in the Philippines even Before the colonial Era, and the
Philippines even have land title over Sabah... But malaysia refused to follow by malaysia until now en their govt. Choosed to secretly suport fund & armed some terrorist/Extrimist in southern mindanao en used them against the govt. To weaken the stand of Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Sulu Archipelago not for sale.. Sultanate of sulu
If ever Philippine take control of Sabah again, I hope our lawmaker make them an autonomous region. Or better yet, make them into an independent country.
We don't need SABAH to be prosperous, but due to the ruling that states that we own SABAH, we need to follow the ruling. But I would support an independent SABAH or at the very least, an Autonomous region.
Muslim regions in mindanao are autonomous, so if Sabah will be reclaimed it will fall under the control of ARMM.
I hope Mindanao region will also gain independence from Philippines and create a country for its Muslim people
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko That too I support. But it is what it is, as Filipino citizens I have an obligation to uphold the ruling, no matter how much I disagree with it.
@hopelope1703 It's been already been proven by the judge in Spain, later in France that the agreement between the Sultan of Sulu and the British North Borneo company is a "Lease" between a Private company and the Landlord, and not a Cession payment as Malaysia is claiming.
Malaysia wouldn't have to be paying 14 Billion dollar for extracting resources in their own Territory if they indeed own Sabah. The fact that Malaysia isn't even trying to contest the Spanish Judges ruling and going hush hush about it is indicative that they knew that they will not win should they try to bring this to the international court.
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Only Bangsamoro regions is predominantly muslim.
Support Philippines... 💪🇵🇭
Sabah is Filipino!
What undisputed proof do you have that the Philippines have legal claims over Sabah.
As a Filipino, I appreciate Malaysia's recent efforts as a facilitator in bringing peace to Mindanao. Borneo, much like Alaska in the USA, is rich in natural resources and significantly contributes to Malaysia's wealth. However, I believe it is time for Filipinos to focus on our human resources. Filipinos have spread across the globe, positively impacting the world through our humble, capable, and heartfelt service. I am grateful for the peace in Mindanao that Malaysia helped achieve because the education and improved living standards of poor children in Mindanao today will bear more fruit in the future than the potential of Borneo. I hope Filipinos in Borneo are treated well.
what? Mindanao?one day we Malaysian will make that Mindanao land to become no men's land.its just a metter of time and sooner or later we get tired hearing your non stop complaining .Do u expect people in Sabah Wana eat pagpag everyday and live in a slump like Manilla?
Sabah is sabah territory, and sabah want to be part of malaysia.
PH and Indo objected the illegal formation
@@DigonggongDutae sabah does what sabah wants, end of discussion
@@zzsleepy01shut up they dayak not suluk idiots
Free Sarawak, go go Philippines,, Sabah belong to you.. love from aceh
What undisputed proof do you have that the Philippines have legal claims over Sabah?
@@themalaysianpatriot3099 The Philippines has proof that Sabah is its own. If Sabah is yours, why is your government still paying rent?... if it's yours, why are you still paying rent, the owner won't pay rent to non-owners?
@@Spongebob-yi2hj That is a false narrative created by the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak” and was agreed as such by both the British and the Sulu Sultan however the Sulu heirs of the now defunct Sulu Sultanate then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then agreed to pay 5,000 Mexican gold coins annually to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
@@themalaysianpatriot3099 whatever you say about this, Sabang always belong to the Philippines.. until now you still pay rent, thats the fact..
@@Spongebob-yi2hj What’s wrong? Can’t refute my points so you resort to denial? Ironic considering you were so convinced that Sabah is “rented” by Malaysia even though I showed you undisputed proof to show you that Sabah is not rented by Malaysia. Also, the International Court of Justice also sided with Malaysia and denied any claim that Sabah is rented. As a wise person once said, “refute with facts and references, not hearsay”.
In June 2023, Malaysia secured landmark victories in the Paris Court of Appeal and the Hague Court of Appeal, demonstrating the fundamentally flawed nature of the Sulu claim and a clear step towards the collapse of the case. 1:14
SABAH 🇵🇭❤
Dream on U never get it because Philippines is a lot terrorist ISIS
Sabah, Malaysia 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Sabah Philippines
Lagyan na natin ng airport yan para maka gala naman tau sa sabah Philippines char waiting you brother and sister
Sabah, Philippines. 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
@hopelope1703 don't make up historical facts go to Wikipedia $tup1d
Mindanao is Malaysia we will take it, China takes north we take south.
@hopelope1703 jaja
@@unknown7042 jaja
@@unknown7042 melayu mahawangsa halusinasion 🤣🤣
To anyone saying that Sabah is Philippine territory, think again, go to Sabah and try speaking Filipino to them.
In this mindset, Brunei should claim back the entire Borneo island
I hope that one day Mindano will enter Malaysia and we will together develop the states in Malaysia together.. if it happens people from Mindano will not have to use illegal routes or use passports to enter Malaysia...
A Mindanaoan here.. that would be difficult since the majority of us, around 70% or something, are Christian Visayans who feel more culturally connected to the Hispanicized north. May work in Bangsamoro areas, I guess, but not the whole Mindanao.
Tukang ngeklaim haha
@@Acehmakmurdari lo Indon satu dunia mau di klim huhu..ibarat si miskin ada hati mau2 nya klim satu dunia aduhh 😅😂😂
@@mendicius_jadeeastern part of indonesia is majority christian. what do you think about joining indonesia?
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 No, Christians in Mindanao still are Spanish-influenced. We are closer to the Christians in Visayas.
There’s no other agreement but an agreement between the BNBC and the Sultan of Sulu, but Malaysia and the British after the land grabbing of Sabah are trying to incorporate and insert many new different conditions that are not inside the lease contract agreement that is in favor to Malaysia because there was already a covert intention to claim Sabah permanently in favor to Malaysia by the connivance of both the British and Malaysia. Malaysia was not a signatory to 1878 leased contract agreement because Malaysia came only into existence in 1963 as a sovereign country? Despite there was an existing agreement of 1878, The British and Malaysia ignores and invalidated this contract to give way to the illegal annexation and land grabbing of Sabah, they claim and used the word defunct to justify their claim despite the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu are running after Sabah, the legitimate owner of Sabah
That is a false narrative created by the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak” and was agreed as such by both the British and the Sulu Sultan however the Sulu heirs of the now defunct Sulu Sultanate then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then agreed to pay 5,000 Mexican gold coins annually to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
@themalaysianpatriot3099 5000 gold coins annually, and each coin today cost 2000 USD. That is USD 10M minimum per year. The British knew who originally has authority over Sabah and its people.
@@badjaeaux That 5,000 Mexican gold coin was only paid for the cession payment, not rent payment. Neither the agreement nor the official receipts ever state of a “rent”. Also, the British switch from paying the Sultan of Sulu from Mexican gold coins to the British pound and was never challenged by Sulu.
you are totally wrong on this, Claude Lee Moses sign the first agreement with Brunei Sultanate only in 1865, the same agreement sold to William Jospeh Torrey, he then sold it to Baron De Overbeck, Baron De Overbeck renew the agreement in 1877
Both Clause Lee Moses and Joseph William Torrey only deal with Brunei Sultanate for the same villages on east coast and west coast of North Borneo, including same part of now in pilipin territory, which is palawan, balabac and cagayan sulu
the agreement is not about Sabah, it is just villages on the mouth of the river, there is no such as agreement about Sabah
@@themalaysianpatriot3099 the 1877 agreement is not cession of entire Sabah read the agreement carefully there is not once "Sabah" mention in that agreement, its just villages on the coastal areas, Brunei never own Sabah, most part of Sabah come into BNBC possessions by means of pledge of allegiance by the native chief to the BNBC resident, and also most part of the interior they just take it into their possession, because that areas is just thick jungle no one living there.
only about 20 or more villages is "sungai tulin" which Brunei Pengiran have followers living there, that covered in the (pajak) bundle wholesale agreement with Brunei Sultanate, but in the agreement the name of the village is not mention, only the strip of areas where it is located is mention, after that agreement, BNBC still have to deal with the specific "sungai tulin" pengiran to completely surrender their right to control their followers to BNBC, there is series of agreement between BNBC and specific pengiran from 1877 right up to after 1900 until all the "sungai tulin" completely all surrendered to BNBC
sulu sultanate have no existence anywhere in Sabah, they do not have anything to do with Sabah at all, they just lie about being owner of Sabah, they just claim to supposedly own some people somewhere here in Sabah, but there are no such things exist, Spanish take advantage of this sulu sultanate lies and made-up claim to recognize that sulu sultanate to supposedly own Sabah and create made up agreement to say that supposedly sulu give Sabah to Spanish, William Treacher knows this plan so he ask Baron De Overbeck to go to sulu and make a made up agreement to bypass Spanish attempt, Baron De Overbeck know that sulu have nothing to do with Sabah at all, he firstly refuse but later go along with it, and sign made up agreement with sulu sultanate, overtaking Spanish attempt by 7 months earlier
there should be 2 agreements first with sultan and another one with the specific pengiran for Brunei or datu for sulu taking care of their followers in the specific villages, only Brunei Sultanate have pengirans, sulu don't have any datu taking care of any followers anywhere in Sabah, because sulu actually never ever have existence anywhere in Sabah, all their story is just lies and made up story
The Philippines claims Sabah on the basis that Sabah was said to be once under Sulu Sultanate. Descendants of former Sultan of Sulu claim that Sabah belonged to Sulu Sultanate because Sabah was given by Brunei the original owner to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei to fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given Sabah to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans.
In fact on 29 December 1877, the Sultan of Brunei ceded the whole of Sabah to BNBC/British and concurrently appointed Baron Von Overback, the co-owner of BNBC as Maharajah of Sabah and Rajah of Sandakan and Gaya. This cession agreement was documented.
When BNBC went to Sabah to begin their business, Sulu claimed that Sabah belonged to Sulu. BNBC agreed to enter a "pajak" agreement with Sulu after they were advised by their fellow businessmen in Hong Kong who advised that Sulu would attack them if they didn't have a deal with Sulu. This "pajak'' agreement was signed on 22 January 1878. BNBC understood that this "pajak" was a "cession", so did early generation of Sulu Sultan accepted it as "cession". Only later generation of descendants of former Sultan of Sulu claimed that the "pajak" agreement was meant to be "rent" or "lease''. Still there was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans. The two above events led to an overlapping issue on Sabah.
What ever it was, the above agreement and overlapping issue were superceded by later event. On 22 July 1878, the then Sultan of Sulu had relinquished all his possession and sovereignty of Sulu and it's territories including Sabah to Spain. The Sultanate of Sulu only remained as hereditary cultural and traditional entity without any sovereign territory.
In 1885, to resolve overlapping issue on Sabah and other issues involving other islands, Britain, Spain and Germany arrived to an agreement known as Madrid Protocol in which Spain surrendered Sabah to Britain. As new owner of Sabah Britain had full control and sovereignty over Sabah and they could do what ever they wanted. Sulu could not claim anything because they had already relinquished the sovereignty of Sabah to Spain and Spain surrendered Sabah to Britain.
What ever happened to Sabah after that was under British jurisdiction. Even though British had full control and sovereignty of Sabah, they still honoured the annual "cession money" payment stipulated in the "pajak'' agreement as consolation for the Sulu Sultan. So did Malaysia when formed in 1963, still honoured the annual "cession money" payment as consolation for the Sulu Sultan. The term "cession money" was used because to use the term "consolation" was felt to be too degrading. Thus the term "cession money" was continually used as used before by the British.
Even the argument about the word "pajak" and it's meaning in the "pajak" agreement still favoured the British. The "pajak" agreement was written in classical Malay, in jawi script (Arabic alphabet). Malay is the national language of Malaysia and Brunei, and mother tongue of majority Malaysians and Brunei. In those days, Malay was also used by people of Sulu because Malay was the "lingua franca" of this region including the present Philippines. That was why the agreement was written in Malay. But over the years Sulu people had lost their Malay language (standard Malay) because of several reasons like colonisation by different European. This made Sulu relied on translation of the agreement. Things got worse when they translated it to Sulu's local language, be it Tagalog or Tausug, which was rather translation of another translation, that they translated it to their favour.
The word "pajak" carried several meanings depending on the contact used in the sentence or passage. It could mean "tax, rent, pawn, lease, or cession". In the agreement between BNBC/ British and Sulu, the word "pajak" was used together with the phrase "selama-lamanya" which meant "forever". When "pajak" was used together with the phrase"selama-lamanya", in this contact the word "pajak" meant "cession". Cession means "the formal giving up of rights, property or territory by a state". When Sulu "pajak" Sabah to BNBC it meant Sulu ceded Sabah and it meant Sabah no longer belonged to Sulu.
This was further clarified. There was a second agreement which was a supplementary to the first agreement known as "Confirmation of Cession of Certain Islands Agreement". It was regarding certain islands between Sabah and Sulu which they were not sure whether they were included in the first agreement or not. In this second agreement, the word "pajak" was no longer used because they thought it might lead to misunderstanding by later generation. Instead the word "menyerahkan" which meant "surrender" was used, and the annual payment was increased from 5,000 dollars to 5,300 dollars due to certain islands included.
Another example where the Philippines generally or Sulu in particular misunderstood due to wrong translation or translation to their favour, was about the clause that the territory could not be transfered to another party. Yes, there was a clause that Sabah could not be transfered to another party "... without the consent of 'Duli Queen'...". The British translated "Duli Queen" as "Her Britannic Majesty", even though it was not correct literally but it was correct in the meaning. The "... Queen" was referring to Queen Victoria, the ruler of England / Britain at that time. But Sulu translated "Duli Queen" (or rather translated from a translation) as "Their Majesties' Government". This led to an understanding that "Duli Queen" was the ruler of Sulu. The question was since when Sulu as a Muslim state had a female as their ruler (Sultanah or Queen)?
The above showed that North Borneo (Sabah) had indeed been ceded to Britain, that was why it could not be transfered to another party without the consent of 'Duli Queen' (Queen Victoria), the ruler of England/ Britain at that time. And further it was stated that any dispute about the agreement had to be referred to the "Consul General" being the Queen's representative in Borneo to be resolved. It meant that outside Arbitrator had no jurisdiction over the agreement. This fact became the main reason of judgement by Paris Court of Appeal in setting aside and annulling the Paris Court (lower court) ruling awarding the heirs of the defunct Sulu Sultanate.
On 31 August 1963 Britain gave independence to Sabah and before that on 22 July 1963 Sarawak was given independence. The people of Sabah and Sarawak had exercised self determination to form Malaysia together with Malaya and Singapore. The sovereignty of Sabah and Sarawak as component states of Malaysia is intact and recognized internationally and recognized by the UN. This was confirmed and clearly stated in the United Nations Malaysia Mission Report "Final Conclusion of the Secretary-General", 14 September 1963. The last sentence of the report says:
"I fervently hope that the people of these territories will achieve progress and prosperity, and find their fulfillment as component states of Malaysia".
Full text of the report can even be accessed from the Philippines Government Gazette website.
About the arbitration award by Paris Court to Sulu of US$14.92B, it had since been set aside and annulled by Paris Court of Appeal. Here is the latest situation.
Latest as in June 2023:
1. June 6th - Paris Court of Appeal had set aside and annulled the previous Paris Court (lower court) ruling awarding the heirs of the defunct Sulu Sultanate.
2. June 27th - Dutch Court of Appeal in The Haque had dismissed a bid by eight descendants of former Sultan of Sulu to enforce the arbitration award by Paris Court (lower court) ruling, and dismissed an attempt to seize Malaysian assets following the Paris Court of Appeal decision.
3. Paris Court of Appeal also imposed on Sulu €100,000.00 (Euro currency) to be paid to Malaysia as legal cost.
4. Mean while in Luxembourg, a second attempt to seize Malaysian Petronas assets had been filed in Luxembourg Court due for hearing in September 2023 after the first attempt was dismissed. This will likely be dismissed too following the Paris Court of Appeal decision.
Now is already December 2023, no news about Sulu's claim proceeding in Luxembourg Court. It looked like they withdrew their case when they acknowledged the Paris Court of Appeal decision.
Malaysia had spent around RM32m, equivalent to about US$6.6m to deal with these Sulu claim cases in various European courts, in Madrid, Paris, Luxembourg and Netherlands. Apart from the €100,000.00 Sulu has to pay to Malaysia as legal cost, Malaysia is planning to sue Sulu for compensation for the loss of RM32m (USD6.6m) spent.
The Spanish Arbitrator's (initialled G.S) action of bringing the Sulu claim case in Paris Court when Madrid Court had already made decision in favour of Malaysia was seen by Spanish judicial authority as Contempt of Court and Professional Intrusiveness. He was charged in Madrid Court for Contempt of Court and sentenced to 6 months imprisonment together with a ban from practising as an Arbitrator for a year. His appeal to Spanish highest court was rejected.
On 8th September 2024. The Dutch Supreme Court rejected Sulu's appeal to overturn Dutch lower courts' rejection of Sulu's bid to seize Malaysian assets.
Latest news as of 6th November 2024. Paris Supreme Court rejected Sulu's appeal to overturn previous Paris Court of Appeal decision which set aside and annulled Paris Court ruling awarding Sulu US$14.92B compensation. Since the Paris Supreme Court is the highest court, the decision is final. Malaysia won.
Sulu lost in all various European courts. They lost in Madrid, they lost in Paris, they lost in the Hague Netherlands, and they lost in Luxembourg.
Not an expert in history, geopolitics, legal, or international law here, but IMHO, ownership, administration and control are different matters. What could have transpired in the treaty is cessation or concession of control and administration of the territory or land of Sabah to the administering government or controlling entity at that time. Being technically part of a country does not necessarily mean the land is owned by the government of that country, as ownership remains to the original owner as provided by law or tradition, proof of which is the perpetual rental afforded (the rentee never owns the property of the rentor). Parties involved during that time recognized such ownership so why parties on this contemporary time not? There could be no argument on the desire of the Sabah people to be under their preferred nation as this is their political right, only that the land they are living is owned by private individuals residing in another country, who, in a civilized world and society, retain the rights and privileges subsequent of such ownership. No wonder the international court awarded billions of dollars in favor of the aggrieved parties, owing to the damages demanded in the breach of contract case.
At the end of the day Sabah is a philippine territory.
Absolutely! Sabah taken by Malaysia to include in a formation of federation of Malaya. Bec. Of resources. But its definitely Philippine territory.
@hopelope1703 if all these are facts, there's a long way to go... and hopeful here that the rightful claimants prevail.
hahah u phillipine so jealous of malaysia because we are more developed. even sabah ppl dont want to be in phillipines. we malaysian will protect our territory. u pinoy try to challenge us in war if u dare 😂. u guys cant even handle china
@@joelg.paramo514 if Sabah belongs to Philippine why you didn't ask America to return Hawaii to it royal family because Hawaii under private control not under America.
Ito ang dapat pagtuonan ng pansin ng phil.government
sabah is for malaysia
''Padjak'' in Malay and Tausug the term means “lease”.it is not cease or grant. The North Borneo Company agreed to the written TAUSUG aggreement signed by bought parties. The English translation was not approved by the Sultan of Sulu. IT MEANS the English translation is illegal. The Transfer of North Borneo aka SABAH of the British is illegal they should return it Instead to the Heirs Instead they favored to gve it their Malaysian colony. None payment of said rent to the Heirs means violations of the contract. No such contract are legal in international Laws without term limits in present day times.
Have u ever refer 1903 Agreement yet?
After 1878 agreement, another agreement between British and Sultanate of Sulu in 1903 was signed that mention "مڽراهكن".
Malaysia to end the issue must challenge the Heirs of Sulu and the Philippine government to END the dispute which Malaysia continues to avoid. How can they solidify claim the area is their own when they continue to avoid settling disputes to the International Court of Arbitration.
very well said 🇵🇭 thank you for translating to Tausug
Actually, problems like this are very easy to overcome, you have to ask the people of Sabah, whether they want to go to the Philippines or Malaysia, that's the end of the problem.
Well they can move out of Philippine territory and go to Malaysia then.
@@RyanC5891 in one year, what can Philippines do for Sabah???
@@rahmatizzat2216 a lot
@@RyanC5891thier are the real owner of the place not philippine or malaysia so thier can decide who part thier want to join
Most Filipinos seems to have already forgotten the Sabah issue.
Philippines and America have an agreement that if Americans help philippines to take-over sabah, philippines will give a designated land part of sabah to americans to become a large permanent american military base, thats why malaysia shoud watch out.
@hopelope1703Of course the U.S will not anounce it on public😅 You knew how U.S works, if they can't get it legally, they will get it under the table, like arming sulu army with stingirs for anti tank and anti aircraft capabilities, And long arm weapon. This time the sulu army are already survying the area of Sabah how they can operate, after that they will land a full scale attack including using of tunnel at mountains to avoid airstrike, and stockfile of weapon and food💪.
Sorry but the reply above me proof you're wrong
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Malaysians never been in war philippines fought a lot...if we are greedy we absolutely easily get Sabah by force.
That's not gonna happen...
Dream on, Pinoy. The Philippines barely has a functioning navy, let alone an air force. And if your country dares to attack a fellow ASEAN member, be prepared for economic sanctions being imposed on the Philippines.
Ohh i dare you..
the people of sabah agreed to join federation of malaysia in cobbold commision and UN ...
Malaysian renters/leasees in Sabah want to own this land. Return the land to the Philippines that you just rented. It is irrelevant to ask a renter whether he/she wants to be Malaysian or Philippines/Filipino. If you are just a renter/leasee, you don't own the land. As simple as it is.
@@balseeneslab7446 tell that to icj lol...the claim has been debunk.
Sulu Archipelago maharlika. Own by sultanate of sulu
This is a matter on how the Philippines welcome the people of Sabah as our Princess of Jolu Sulo won all the trials or cases , Court even ask the Malaysia to pay our Princess of Jolu Sulu.. Malaysia pay rent to the Princess of Julo Sulo clear enough that Sabah is a part of the Philippines ,latePres.Marcos Sr.never lost focus on people of Sabah and its case just so sad after late FEM was the beginning of more trouble,one the Aquino president was once said that people of Jolu Sulu is a terrorist but some are only defending themselves ..
Hello cleary you're lost The cased has won by Malaysia Now the court has ordered Sulu to pay Malaysia
@hopelope1703 thank you, you enlightened me or us about the Philippines Sabah case ,our Philippines government and Philippine Smart and good lawyers working at their best
Hope Sulu will get its RIGHT as malaysia govt. Broke the contract no mora pay the leasing..
Make referendum for some part of sabah that want in malay federation, but Sulu RIGHT in its biggest city must give back to them the legitimate ruler
That is a false narrative created by the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak” and was agreed as such by both the British and the Sulu Sultan however the Sulu heirs of the now defunct Sulu Sultanate then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then agreed to pay 5,000 Mexican gold coins annually to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
The Government of Malaysia has obtained a final landmark victory today at the Supreme Court of the Netherlands, which ruled in favour of Malaysia and dismissed the appeal filed by the Sulu Claimants. The Supreme Court decision, which is final and authoritative, brings to an end to the Claimants' attempts to enforce their illegitimate claims against Malaysia in the Netherlands.
This remarkable Supreme Court decision endorsed the decision of the Hague Court of Appeal of 27 June 2023, which upheld Malaysia’s challenge against the Claimants' application in the Netherlands to recognise and enforce the purported "Final Award", rendered in Paris by Dr. Gonzalo Stampa on 28 February 2022.
Whenever a territory slips away from the hands of the British, things go complicated. Look what happened here to Sabah look what happened to Palestine. Look what happened to most countries to India and in Africa. See the pattern.
The major arguments should be what UN survey result has said 1963. People of Sabah desires not old kingdom that tries to regain control and subjected civilised people to submit to them. Non suluk is majority of Sabah. They never submitted to any Suluk kingdom. This is the basis for populated territory for unpopulated territory papers work... But people inspiration rule in this case. It is clear as in ICJ ruling.
SABAH WAS NOT OWNED BY THE BRITISH
MEANING IT WAS OWNED BY A PERSON THE SULTAN OF SULU
SO IT CANNOT BE CEDED BY BRITAIN TO ANYONE
@hopelope1703 then why is malaysia paying the heir of the sultan?
for what?
do the logic
Colonial land era It's kiram territory that's is sulu territory heartbreaking when sabah lost to be philippine territory 😢
@hopelope1703 1878 renting sulu territory
NOW at PRESENT Sabah is in Malaysia... Full stop... 😂😂😂
Philippine owned sabah is a fact, but ain't no way we have to deal more islamic insurgency especially from the land that regularly supply local muslim rebels and terrorist in the philippines
Kayang labanan yan. Pero ung langis na makukuha dun madami
@@jamie3226 kung ganun ka dali, matagal na sana natalo ng sundalo ang MILF, MNLF, BIFF, Abusayaf at NPA, at naiwasan nyo pa ang paggawa ng BARMM napagod na kami dito mga mabait na Kristyano at Muslim sa Mindanao nasundin ang interest ng Manila para sa Pilipinas habang pinag iwanan at pinaharap pa ng problema ng walang tulong galing sa kapitolyo ayaw talaga namin ng extremist at masayang ang gastos sa imbestment ng Mindanao para mag arang, mapunta ulit sa giyera
@@darkflamemaster6541wala interest ang karamihan na pinoy makuha yan dahil muslim
Region ang sabah pero kung naging christian yan mapalitan ang goberno kunin yan due to public demand.
Kinda ironic the words from the person where their Land allowed the citizens to have their own guns as "Hobby" to blame other land for their rebel and terrorist movement. Crime, Rebel, Terrorist was already your blood and there was nothing to do with us. Talk to your Spain and USA about that.
@@Ffaizal2336 muslim separatis in thailand and philippines creating trouble are migrant from malaysia we all know it here in SEA malaysia is a funder of terrorist in SEA.
That is Philippine Territory
What undisputed proof do you have that the Philippines have legal claims over Sabah? They have never govern that territory.
I'm tausug we are not pinoy Spanish slave... My ancestors fight the aggressor why we must join them now? The Spanish didn't even win against moro... We are not pinoy (Spanish slave)
you are missing the point.
@@bambiloren philipines is american puppet against china
because of the political turmoil and the separatist Moro that malaysia took advantage of to support So Sabah was no longer taken care of but now the political instability of the country is fixed it will be taken back in
Your country can’t even defeat the ongoing insurgency in Mindanao and you expect the Philippines to properly govern Sabah? Dream on Pinoy.
Sabah was never part of the Philippines and historically Sabah was never recognize as part of Sulu territory by Sultan of Brunei.
This is correct. The Sultanate of Brunei was the one who ceded North Borneo (Sabah) to the British North Borneo Company under the 1877 agreement which states as such. This agreement alone overrides any deals made between the Sultanate of Sulu and the British North Borneo Company involving North Borneo (Sabah) as Sulu never owned that territory.
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In the early 1963 before Malaysia was born /still North Borneo the Visit of Dayang/Princess Tarhata on The Field of Foot Ball at Sandakan Town Hall was met by crowded of people .On her returned she brought money fulled in samsonite .Before the clock tower at round about there was a certain Rest House of Sultanate of Sulu,but was demolished by Chinese Do.at that time in simulation of constructing road to labuk and curving down to forner Post Office and Town Board buildings.
Sabah is not malisian people in 1917
Neither it was part of the Philippines.
Malaysia has benefited greatly in this area with their claim to the SABAH of the PHILIPPINES for several decades until now. 🦅🇵🇭👊🏾
May the rightful owner prevail as soon as possible in the name of Jesus the Nazarene. 🙏🏻
@hopelope1703 WHY DID BRUNEI GIVE SABAH TO THE PHILIPPINES ⁉️ {legit history}
This was during the period when the Sultanate was in its 'golden era'. In 1658, the Sultan of Brunei ceded the northern and eastern portion of Borneo to the Sultanate of Sulu in compensation for the latter's help in settling the Brunei Civil War in the Brunei Sultanate. 🇵🇭🙏🏻🇧🇳
why do we always make a fuss about remote islands, even though there is Sabah which is wider and rich in oil resources, historically Sabah is part of the Philippines, if there is a war with Malaysia I am sure the Philippines will win.
Historically sabah is part of Brunei. I am from Brunei and the sulu didn't sent helps during the uprising in Brunei. So, sulu breach the contract. Sabah already chose to be with malaysia. So just let bygone be bygone. Sabah people have their own right to choose. Are Philippines try to take sabah's right? Do Philippines want to take sabah freedom? The colonizers left Asean years ago. Do Philippines want to take their job?
@@honeydrill9269 well said
Sabah is for Philippines not Malaydesh Bangladeshia
Sabah is Philippines,
What undisputed proof do you have that the Philippines have legal claims over Sabah?
This doesn't need to argue for because the sulu sultunate have the papers.
SABAH, PHILIPPINES 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
@hopelope1703 SABAH BELONGS TO THE PHILIPPINES, since the Sultanate of Brunei gave it to the Sultanate of Sulu. The British North Borneo Company leased it from Sulu during their occupation of the island and Malaysia government has been paying the heirs of Sulu Sultanate until 2013. The payment is rent, not cession, as indicated in the agreement. Malaysia cannot claim Sabah because in the first place, Malaysia was a new country, only formed as a country in 1963 when Sarawak, Sabah (called North Borneo during British occupation), Singapore, and Malay Peninsula confederated with each other (Singapore left in 1965 to be independent of its own). The Sultanate of Sulu, being part of the formation of the Republic of the Philippines, ceded its territories to the Philippine government. The Sultanate of Sulu has been a sovereign kingdom or nation that existed since the Islamic invasion of South East Asian islands during the latter reign of Madjapahit (Indian/Hindu) Empire in 1400s. Therefore, the people that resides in Sabah should accept this historical fact and the Malaysian government should respect this historical agreement too. The agreement was written in Malay Language and the contested word is not cession but rent. There are around 800,000 Filipinos residing in Sabah today according to an estimate
Mindanao is Malaysia we will take it, China takes north we take south.
Salam good morning beautiful Sabah belongs to Malaysia from 1888 and what you whan about it the history is remains with dear brunai and British Indonesia I was born in Malaysia in 1952 please my dear presidents of Filipino please forget about it from uncle azlan Shah British Malaysian parti buntar Keiran Perak alamdullila
Saya dari Indonesia sudah tau malasia "king of klaim" 😂 semua dari indonesia mereka klaim juga
Kamu juga boleh di klaim Malaysia 😂😂😂
Kmurang yg brabis claim2, mcm2 kamu klaim, kmu ambil la tu Timor Leste sekali Papua
Sabah is Philippines Territoryー
Sabah Belong to Philipines
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Sarawak, Singapore, Malaya, Brunei and part of Sabah belong to Indonesia Raya.😊
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@@Ffaizal2336 Malaya belong to Bangla and Rohingya 😁😁😁
@@bambangbangshu7371 Well.. you not denied that you want Singapura, Brunei, Sarawak and Part of Sabah tho. 😆
That shows your true nature. 🤢🤮
Keep it. The Philippines can’t even take care of it’s own land.
Sultanate of Sulu has the soverieng rights for Sabah not the Malaysia.. let's unite to retake Sabah from Malaysia..Alhamdullilah..allahuhh akhbar!!!!!!!!!!!!
If philippine won, its going to be a civil war because sabahan didnt want to be a filipino
As Indonesia we stand with PH, we all know malaysia federate was traitor, its broke the promises with Soekarno and indonesian that support their independence trully self govt but they choose giveaway from colonial, also with Sulu Heirs
We support acheh, papua and other teritories of indonesia to independent.. living in indonesia make them poorer.. only java benefit all resources
AS I, A FILIPINO I LOVE MY I LAND I DONT NEED ANOTHER COUNTRY,SPECIALY A MUSLIM COUNTRY
It's already part of Malaysia so it's not an issue anymore! If you want to go back to history then it's belong to no one!
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@@abdulmahyadiharis1293 thats not how law works buddy, if you own a piece off land and have a title/documents of the land to support your claim then you own the land, Sultan of sulu has it, you dont have to go back to history to know that simple fact, you sound stupid srsly.
Yes Sabah belongs to the Philippines BUT Philippines do NOT WANT Eastern Sabah. Personally I dont think that's a pretty island so Malaysia can have it lol. 😂 Philippines just do not actively go for Sabah. But PHILIPPINES will fight nail and tooth for the West Philippine Sea where there is rich oil, gas reserves and natural resources❤
@hopelope1703 PHILIPPINES does NOT WANT SABAH.. WE just don't. If we do, we will actively pursue it. We just don't care about Sabah LOL
@hopelope1703 you're delusional! Haha Go back to school 🤣 Sabah belongs to the Philippines but you can claim it, it is not a pretty island. It's more of a liability than an asset that's why Philippines is giving it away. Good riddance
What undisputed proof do you have that the Philippines have legal claims over Sabah?
@hopelope1703 I don't even read your comments because you do not make any sense. You're delusional to even think Eastern Sabah belongs to Malaysia. That used to be a part of Spanish Philippines.
@hopelope1703 I did not read it all dumb. I skimmed. I read a line or two and stopped because you kept spewing nonsense 😒 😆 🤣 But as I said Philippines doesn't like Easter Sabah we get rid of it. Malaysia can have it. First of all, no one goes to Eastern Sabah for travel. It's not a pretty island. We have Palawan, Boracay and many gem of an island.. Eastern Sabah is nothing for tourism. Also, Philippines has a rich Deuterium oil and gas in Mindanao, not Eastern Sabah so we don't need that part for energy and power. Its more of a liability than an asset for Philippines. Sprarlys is a very different story for the Philippines though and we Filipinos will never give up on WPS. That's worth 26 Trillions.
If Malaysian go to Sabah, they need to go to immigration and only have limited days to stay it looks like they are foreigners visiting in another country. 😂😂😂
It is one of the proof that Malaya is not the real owner of Sabah 😂😂😂
Sabah is just a milking cow of Malaya, Sabah contributed much GDP for Malaysia compared to other state but Sabah is the poorest state of Malaysia😂😂😂
Honestly none of this 2 country will take sabah ,they want to be independent they say ,they need support of super power country to do it .otherwise they gonna end up like Palestinian in Gaza.
Err u wrong there. Malaysian from West Malaysia need immigration clearance for BOTH SARAWAK & SABAH. These 2 territories join formerly British Malaya (West Malaysia) to form MALAYSIA. part of the agreement to join Malaysia is tht both Sarawak & Sabah retain their autonomy in immigration as well as other things. People from Sabah & Sarawak can enter West Malaysia without immigration and can purchase land/house, work & study without needing a visa. While people from West Malaysia need a visa and cannot easily buy land/house, doing business or study easily in Sabah & Sarawak. So in a way, Malaysian born in Sabah/Sarawak enjoy more privilege than Malaysian born in West Malaysia.
Malaysia is a Federal Country not like your Unitary Country. So dont ever compare your Unitary Country to us. As a Federation Country, Every state in Malaysia has their own Sovereignty in terms of Law, Leader, Flag, Nation Anthem, Coat of Arm. Unlike your Unitary everything is united under a single government.
We as Malaysians don't see it as an issue because we respect the right of each state to have their own Law in order to protect their own people. Respect and Tolerant is our own way to maintain peach
Malaysia is Federal country Bro, you need to Understand what mean by "Federal" Before embarrassing yourself.
Sabah is not Poorest state in Malaysia, It's just slow develop due to the less dense population in large area but still it's economy is far more better When compared to other Malay states
The Poorest economy in Malaysia located in several Malay state in West Malaysia, I rather to call it lowest than Poorest.