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- The old Passport didn't impress, but Honda has introduced the Trailsport package, created with intentions of becoming a capable offroader. Are there things to like about the new one, and should you consider buying?
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Just picked up a '22 Passport and man, what an SUV. Great power, can get 25-27 MPG on the highway and is quite capable off-road, One of the best V6's in the world and not the run of the mill AWD system with real torque vectoring make it kind of a unicorn compared to most mid sized SUV's.
I get 16 mpg this winter..
@@richeyrich2203 go easy on the gas! Keep the light above your he digital speedometer in the green and you’ll get better results.
I’m getting 24-25 in mine
@@aviatinggamer9051 I’ll never reach those numbers with my wife driving. She will drown if she ever tries to swim with how heavy her feet are…🤦
@@richeyrich2203 haha my wife is the same way
Tell me about it! I just got a 22 A few months ago. The last two turns going into work, I make a break for it. The power is amazing! The giddy-up is sweet. That last turn has a bunch of curves. I can finally make that stop light. Perfect SUV for me.
The Passport Interior volume is 156 cubic feet, the CR-V is 103 cubic feet. That's 53 cubic feet larger! For a visual reference it can hold 53 more basketballs. It's larger all around!!!
If you want to own a vehicle and not just lease, buy this. This it is solid. No fat. All muscle. It doesn’t have gimmicks like Koreans or soft this or that. But it just works with best V6 engine in world.
We have a 2020 and average 23 mpg and get 28 on the highway. We went from a CRV to this and love it. It is incredible in snow too.
We bought ours in August of ‘22. All I can say is it’s been an awesome vehicle up to this point. I don’t understand the hate. My wife will NEVER take it off-road but she loves the off-road look. Plus the sonic grey pearl color we got always gets compliments.
Have ‘19 Passport and absolutely love it. It’s so much bigger inside than it looks. It’s very wide. Seats are comfy, rides good, handles surprisingly well, hauls butt, I’ve put a whole couch from IKEA in the back, full size doors from Home Depot, slept in many a times, and it has Vtec!! Great vehicle other than the dog gears of the 9 speed.
The Passport is a sleeper. More power, more room, and a way better AWD system compared to almost every other crossover. It's definitely not a 4Runner competitor!!
The Passport is a GREAT car! It is great!! It has tremendous Headroom, it has Amazing interior room in general, the rear cargo space is amazing! We own both a Sequoia AND a Rav4 Prime and the Rav4 is just so dang small! This vehicle is on par space wise with the Sequoia minus the third row and maybe a few inches of shoulder/hip width inside. But the overall space inside is amazing. Also, its just easy to drive, way too easy to the point that it is "boring" but it is great! I also have a Gladiator Mojave and the Passport is a great Family ride!
Just got 21 inches of snow in 24 hours and our 2022 handles great!
It is unstoppable and mellows out all the ruts and Bumps. Its equivalent to our 2008 Lexus gx470
Got ours with the upgraded heated steering wheel.. it’s so nice in the snow with the auto start, heated seats, memory seats and good ground clearance and awesome awd system.
I have an 09 GX too and am considering getting the Passport. Which one do you like to drive more, the GX or the Passport?
6 Cylinder, pulls 5000 pounds, easy to park, fits in my garage, handles snow. Real transmission What’s the mystery? Why is that a joke?
Agreed, one is in our garage right now, but I believe the 5,000 pound towing capacity is only with the optional transmission cooler. Otherwise is rated at 3,500 pounds if I recall correctly. Tows our 1,200 pound teardrop camper easily, but may still upgrade to the cooler for safety margin when we head out west. Our PP replaced a 2012 Subaru Forester which was a great little vehicle, but only had a four cylinder.
I am a 50-year-old man I like Hondas I like the passport it may not be perfect but also May suit my needs you keep talking down about the gas mileage the gas mileage isn't that bad most Honda vehicles have good gas mileage and the 2023 Honda password it supposed to be all wheel drive permanently I would buy it as a fake Sports vehicle SUV lower it 19 in rims I still feel it has good gas mileage not bad I do like watching your TH-cam videos these two guys are knowledgeable and they're funny too it brings light to cars and what they're talking about keep it up
Passport sit higher than CVR. I get 25mpg on mine. Had one since 2019.
The 4Runner comparison may sound crazy, but I think Honda markets the Passport against how most people actually use the 4R, instead of the full capabilities of the vehicle. Headed to a campsite or live off of a dirt road that occasionally turns to mud? The Passport has you covered and with better comfort and daily driveability. It is also excellent in snow. Love the 4R, but for most people it is overkill and there is a supreme tradeoff in driving dynamics and gas mileage.
For most people’s actual use, you are probably right. Thanks for watching!
The interior space is not identical. I would argue the interior space approaches full-size verse the CR-V larger compact. Especially in the shoulder and hip room. There're Passport competitors that compare more closely with CR-V ironically.
Love my 2021 Passport. The funny thing was, neither of you bought up Acura offerings, because if you buy a loaded PP, you could definitely afford a low trim MDX, or a loaded RDX. But for some of us;; we wouldn't be caught dead in anything branded as a luxury vehicle. I live in Canada's snowbelt, and believe me....not too many vehicles can do in the snow what a PP can do with snow tires.. I bought a PP because it has a legendary engine, it's beast in all weather condition and it's practical as hell. I get 28 Mpg on the highway.
MDX is great. Just not crazy for how claustrophobic it is. PP is well laid out and open design.
That awd system is what you are paying for. The CRV is gonna struggle in heavy snow, while this thing will truck right through. Drives way better on the highway than the 4 Runner or a Wrangler. It just doesn’t offroad. Most people don’t offroad yet they buy vehicles that can
The “boot” analogy is perfect. They are always comfortable and capable and you sometimes forget you are wearing them.
Just bought a 23. Love it!
Got a new silver one.....fantastic 👍🏻🤘🏻
Can’t believe you don’t like that sweet Honda 3.5 v-tech engine sound, they won’t be around long, check out the new Pilot. Not the same at all!
Honda’s own site lists a difference in the cargo room between CRV and Passport of 10.9ft3 or 300 litres aft of the rear seats. That’s a significant difference. The legroom is quite similar, but if you care about how much junk you can toss in the back, they’re really not competition at all.
Yeah, "The EX-L and TrailSport trims provide 100.8 cubic feet of storage space versus 75.8 cubic feet for all CR-V models." I don't know he's getting his numbers but there's a significant difference between the two in terms of cargo space.
Um, guys. There is no comparison with the Honda CRV. The Passport V6 with nine speed automatic transmission and torque vectoring AWD is COMPLETELY different than the CRV turbo 4 cylinder, CV transmission driven around your local shopping mall.
I just pick up my new 2022 passport and i love it.
Those Captain seats look amazing!
My local Honda dealer has one of these with the TrailSport package in sonic gray pearl, lifted with black wheels for $45K. I really want to buy it and put one of those black roof canopies on it. I think it would look awesome, but I know they’ll redesign it soon, so I think I’ll wait for the next body style even though I love the smooth V6. I hope they don’t change it for a Turbo 4 Cyl.
Don’t wait for the redesign.
The last year of a current design is always the best because they work out the kinks that every redesign has.
This current Passport has worked out the kinks of prior to 2021 and has a nice aesthetics improvement.
This is the one to get. And if your dealer has one at msrp, get it.
I got my trailsport for $47k out the door with addons.
Why get this over a CRV?
1. This is pretty good at towing, CRV isn't.
2. NA V6
3. Conventional Automatic
And the 1.5 l engine with a turbo in the CRV is crazy.
The CRV lacks power and comfort when compared to the Passport. I would not buy a CRV for that reason regardless of the new exterior look or size as you were pointing out. I am sure that the 4Runner continues to be the gas guzzler that has been in the past. 🙂
I own two pilots and would never downsize to a CRV.
What measurements were you looking at that show the CRV and this Passport are the same size? The interior volume is noticeably larger for Passport: 50.5 cu ft behind 2nd row, 100.7 (assume behind 1st row.) CRV: 39 and 76. There is a *TON* of space behind this Passport 2nd row.
These guys don’t know what they are talking about.
I just bought a ‘22 Passport and so far i absolutely love it! The arm rest was almost a deal breaker but surprisingly I don’t mind them at all.
as someone who is both big and tall I can tell you most assuredly that the pilot and passport are significantly roomier than the CR-V. I can't even comfortably get myself to the door hatch on the CR-V. my neck doesn't fold down that far. The Grand Cherokee has more driver room than the CR-V and the Pilot/Passport even more than that. Not quite Atlas space but still very good. I just wish the Honda had a more passionate styling. The exterior screams "minivan with an identity crisis" and the interior just kind of yawns.
Never thought I’d say this but this Honda truck looks cool and it’s all most people want buying this is a tuff looking roomy truck to get the kids from the pick up line at school and be good and safe in all weather
It’s a mini van basically. Extremely far from a truck.
@@Mac-xh8zlminivans have sliding doors and are front drive. Passport is an SUV with regular door and all wheel drive.
I would get this, but not a Honda minivan. Totally different.
This is a simple nice looking suv for thoes who do not need a 3rd row and it is reliable
100% incorrect about cargo space. Plenty more in the Passport.
Leg room, elbow room and head room is almost identical my ass.... 2:34
Why this AND the CR-V? Easy, this is taller and has more headroom. If you're over 6', Passport is the way to go. I have a CR-V and it's annoying to have to duck every time I get in or out.
I've always kind of liked this thing that nobody asked for.
I dont like the crv as I don't really like any of the cuvs based on compact cars. I do dig that this has decent towing ability and more size to it - regardless of thr crv dimensions it seems bigger and bulkier/burlier in a way I like. The crv feels like a tin can compared to these.
I know its a less useful pilot but as somebody who rarely has people in the back seat I absolutely don't want a 7 seater, and the extra 10 inches of pilot over this is just more weight and size to park, etc.
Its kind of the goldilocks cuv that I like the best.
The CRV is a CVT, the Passport has an automatic transmission; gears.
These guys are clueless. We make fun of them in car groups.
I won’t go for CVT. My friend is a mechanic for Honda. He said they’re ridiculous. Stick with the real shit.
It is totally different than a CRV, the CRV is like a still larger Rav4, it competes with that. This compares with the 4Runner but this IS MUCH SAFER than the 4runner. That vehicle has AWFUL crash ratings, this you can wreck and still walk....
V6 doesn't sound amazing?! What?! Come on guys, I bought a 2019 and the V6 is honestly the best sounding natural V6 I'm come across. Period! Not sure if they neutered the new gen, but the VTEC V6 in the 2019 sounds TITS!!!!
I think that the point of the Trailsport package is to determine 2 separate things. 1. Will people like a more Offroad-y version of what we already have, without having to design and manufacture a new suspension and engine setup (unlike the Wilderness series from Subaru). 2. How can we capitalize on the current trend of black plastic cladding and neon colors that means offroading?
I do believe this is Honda dipping their toes in a market as a test without actually allocating an entire R/D team to develop a new class/segment for their cars. The only people that seem to get any real support are the people behind the Type R stuff. If this sells well I think that will give the executive who thought it up the leeway to go further into the outdoors space.
But at least with the Outback Wilderness, they started at changing the final drive gear and put in the up-rated CVT (that hurt to type...) to support the 2.4l turbo. This Hondoo just slapped some different wheels and some orange trim to see how many suckers will buy it, but I'm guessing it will be years (if at all) before they add mechanical bits to actually upgrade it.
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I jumped in a new CRV, nope. The leg space wasn’t cutting it for me if I want to go on long drives. The Passport, my legs are stretched all the way, and the seat isn’t pushed all the way back. I felt boxed in when I got in the CRV.
I also own a 2019 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition around the city I get pretty decent gas mileage but 19 miles per gallon I'm one of the best vehicles I've owned I won't to Ridge lines
Passport does have VCM variable cylinder management turns off 3 cylinders at cruising speeds save a bit of fuel that way
I just purchased this car on Thursday. I love it. We hope to take it off road with beach camping. We replaced a mini van and it’s such a nice change and yes we only have 2 kids 😂
Boots! A great analogy.
cvt and turbo is no go for me....i dont care how it simulates power, most mid sized suvs are trying to lower those emissions and sacrificing a good transmission and engine
I went from a 2020 CRV Black Edition to the 2023 Passport Trailsport and the size difference is the reason why. Not sure what you are talking about. So much more room overall. CRV is not a comparable.
Love my 22 exl pp. comfortable and tons of room. I always wanted a Crv but this is so much better! 2 recalls sine I bought it and a few quirks but this is a great vehicle
I'm looking for a relacement for my 08 jeep grand cherokee v6...this is perfect (more power+better mpg)
maybe have an avail. mild- hybrid option for us snobby city dweller 'types' who wanna squeeze in about 3 more MPG city miles, sorta like some luxo Euro brands have in their vehicles like Audi Q5, MB GLC, and BMW X3 and X5 just to name a few.
Hard to believe you're only getting 20 mpg. 6:49 My wife's 2016 Pilot with the same engine averages 24 to 25 mpg in regular driving and gets 29 mpg on the highway. That Passport could have more aggressive tread on the tires causing a poor mpg but our Pilot has "Michelin Cross Climate 2" tires which have treads that look like they belong on a farm tractor.
What’s hard to believe facts
My 2022 Ridgeline gets 13/15.6 mpg in the city
Barely 20mpg in the highway
My other Honda 2019 Pilot 6spd fwd gets 19mpg in the city and 25/28 mpg in the highway
@@reyperez3424 I would talk to the Honda dealer service mgr and see if the Ridgeline could be serviced under warranty at no cost because of the low mpg. Possible problem with module, sensor, injectors, etc..Don't know if that would be possible without $129 or more diagnostic fee. I would look into it.
I have had a Passport for 2 years and my avg MPG is 20.3 MPG it is my only complaint about the vehicle
Hey guys, love your review, and I am that guy you describe. Still trying to hold onto my coolness with a wife and 6yr old... but I agree, it is a direct competitor to the 4runner and I put my money where my mouth is and bought a 2019 elite based on price, engine, and transmission. My wife and I absolutely love the vehicle. And yes the gas mileage is barely 20mpg as you stated, but what's the 4runners mpg? In all seriousness, I love Toyota,but their prices are getting ridiculous and I feel Honda's reliability is up to par for significantly less. It also has a better VTEC V6 with a better transmission in case I feel like remanissijg about highschool and want to hear that V6 growl. No other v6 sounds like this. It's got ballz!!! God bless you
FYI, not the same as a crv... Far wider and feels much larger, unless I'm missing something? Side by side comparison would be nice. 🙃
I’ve had my EX-L for 2 weeks and love it.
Another one that will survive and still be on the roads into the 2030's. Direct-injected turbo inline-4 models from the last decade will likely grace junkyards with their arrivals from the mid-2020's to early 2030's. NA V6 & conventional auto is the way to go, have to deal with DI nowadays but my 9-year old port injected 3.7 is still purring like a 3 month old kitten.
I think one problem is the fact the Outback Wilderness does exist and still significantly cheaper than this while offering improved off-road performance compared to the standard Outbacks.
@@layne4376 I can say I've had 3 Subaru's with CVT and experienced exactly zero issues with them, including overheating and they have been just fine performance wise.
@@niuhuskieguy You should test drive a Passport, not sure if the Outback is what your comparing it too, but the Outback has nothing on the Passport when it comes to drive, seating, materials etc. This is just a better vehicle all around hands down, the Outback feels like your driving a slow taxi station wagon with synthetic sticky seating material. The seats are so low too, (like a car), where in this you sit high up, your chest is higher than the dash, in the Outback the steering wheel is at your neck. And CVT? oof.
@@darkscience1466 I'm well aware of how the Outback is having owned 4 Subaru Legacys and my parents having an Outback. From my experience, the Outback and the Legacy have the superior looking and feeling interiors and definitely preferred the driving experience of the Outback and Legacy as well. My impressions are based off the previous gen models which were the ones around when the Passport first came out. While I've only experience the current generation Outback with the turbo on a test drive, the drive and experience was still better than the Passport. For the record, I currently own an Acura RDX and I like that even better than the Passport.
Excellent review .
How do I order my Passport with the HPD Rally spec? Roll cage, hand brake, recaros...
Looked @ these as possible replacement for GC Trailhawk. Good drive train but a lot of cost cutting in the interior. I think they just utilized some aging and leftover parts and designs from other models. The smallest sunroof in the market? It is the most utilitarian of all Honda's line up more so than even all the Subaru's. It out Subaru's them.
It's true, Honda has seem to have mastered inserting nooks and small pickets of space to put a number of miscellaneous items throughout the car and I drive a 2008 CRV.
I like the Passport but I want something beefier like a 4Runner TRD Pro so I hope Honda listens and makes the next Passport a more off-road design.
Wait for next 4Runner. Honda will never makes a full frame SUV. They care more about comfort and safety that a unibody brings.
The next Passport will be identical as 23 Pilot. Just shorter in the rear and no third row.
Are your plans to take it rock crawling?
Is the audio any good? Should be able to get Bose
I don't mind the mpg too much cause I need the cargo space but what about the highway road noise. Is it noticeable?
I do wish they would follow Mazda with the cx-50 and make it more of a wagon to compete with Subaru.
Does anyone know if Honda fixed the "speaker pop issue" that plagues even new passports, pilots, and oddeseys in this 2022? Really want to get this but that issue scares me..
I'm told by a salesman. (I know he's a salesman) that they did fix it with proper connectors. He did go into some detail which I don't remember. Anyway hope that helps.
This thing is like 10 years old. Exactly the same as my wife’s passport from 3 cars ago
I really cannot stand how all “trail” packages always seem to come
with orange accents. Orange is ugly. Seriously. WHY
Does this have AWD?
I will take the Subaru Ascent Onyx over this.
So, does this compare to the 4Runner?
Not in my world.. honda engines have gotten super cheaply made. Very little metal below the pistons.. and clogged rings seem common with direct injection making excessive oil useage..
Somewhat?
Nothing competes directly with the 4Runner. The 4Runner is on a truck platform; this is a Pilot with a 8 inches cut off the back.
So it compares with a Highlander... But if that Highlander had 8 inches cut off the back.
4-runner is old school body on frame. Passport is unibody more like Grand Cherokee. 4-runner can lock wheels for true off-road capability.
Hat said, this rides and handles better than 4-runner. No nose dive on braking. AWD in it is superb. Not just front to back but also left to right and clutch based. This is enough to get you places outdoors minus rock climbing.
Engine in this is VTEC-yo. Superb vehicle here.
@@paulm6481 . I agree. I own one and think it's great.
If you want to do rock crawling, get the 4 Runner. If just a daily, get Passport.
If you want offroad just get a 4x4 with a 4hi 4 low transfercase. I got my Jeep for offroading and my 8200rpm EK for racing. Best of both worlds.
Edit: Honda had literally 40 years to release a 4Runner competitor. But they release a run of the mill AWD/FWD suv. Why would they have 2 similar suvs (pilot, passport) and not make one if them a real competitor to Jeep Wrangler and 4Runner?
Passport pilot crv hrv. All the same but different body style.
Check JonDZ adventuring channel and then comment
@@reyperez3424 Its not just me thats saying this, it's everyone reviewing these things. Lol
I know all about JonDZ he's cool and I like his adventures and his cool Passport build. The trails he's on are awesome but it's not rock crawling. Like actually edging up to some rocks then crawling/climbing up. I'm a huge fan of Honda I drive a street/track EK Civic. But They had 40 years to make a competitor to the 4Runner which they still don't have.
100 percent of people buying this are not rock crawling. This is an SUV with lots of room. It has a NA V6 Vtec with a 9 speed transmission. Mostly old school.
4Runner people like to go off road and rock crawl. Some don’t. They drive old and bulky. I hate that old outdated clutch fan on engine. It creaks inside. Paint it horrible. Body is tinny.
4Runner looks great though. Especially that new green color.
Passport drives a lot better on roads and especially highways. It’s much quicker and super comfortable. It’s a lot wider than 4 Runner too. It’s has a lot more room too and is better at moving big boxes or big items.
If I was Rock crawling, I would buy a cheap Jeep. Simple as that.
Why would you not just buy a pilot ??
The new trailsport is not more rugged.. it is just tarted up to look more outdoors. The honda does not have body on frame.. or long reach suspension.. just like putting plastic cladding does not make a truck more capable.. ie.. the wrangler cheap stuck out fenders make it more fragile and less off road capable.. sticking little stuff on the honda does not it better on rough terrain or deeper mud or more slippery rocks..
How short are the seat bottoms ??
Good question. I test drove both and there is a marked difference in driving performance and experience. The Passport is more nimble and pleasant to drive.
Sawed off Pilot. Not very complicated.
10mm difference is almost nothing. Its like vw.. we used to have 19.6 mm sway bars.. but not they are 19.8 mm... right
Since the Passport is almost the same size and cost as the Pilot, what is the appeal of the Passport? The Pilot has a 3rd row that can be stowed when not needed, therefore has more capability if you were ever to need it. Am I missing anything?
It a Honda Ridgeline without a bed. Lol
Ridgeline is not a truck in any way by my standards... its a mommy starbucks vehicle...
Agreed
Most trucks are treated like mommy Starbucks vehicles.
@@cayman9873Raptors and Big Jeeps are mommy Starbucks vehicles too. Nobody takes them off road.
Arrogant condescending review.
Kinda agree. I drive 70 miles a day round trip to work in a Subaru Impreza Sport that I generally love the handling of, but my wife's Passport with active torque vectoring is actually kind of fun in the twisties. That was surprising in a vehicle of its size and design. The lower profile tires offered on other models in the line are ridiculous, especially given the roads where I live. (Had to replace 40-series tires and wheels on the Impreza Sport after destroying a couple in potholes.) This is perfect for a couple of empty-nesters with a dog, who plan on towing a small camper around and loading all their camping gear, canoe, etc. I do wish the gas mileage was a little better, but I'm going for longevity that I'm not sure the turbo four cylinders will offer. Watch Sarah-N-Tuned or Jon DZ's reviews for off-road reviews of the Passport.
Why do you keep deleting my comments? Not a great channel if you do that.
? - Not sure what you're talking about. We don't delete any comments, and there are lots of comments from you on this video.
Honda would have had more sales with this vehicle if it was more reliable, and not look like a washing machine/ bread box.
It’s a J35 Engine! They are the epitome of reliable!🤦🏽♂️
It is reliable. They sell a ton of them. I see too many of them.
The Honda Trailsport package is just for looks, can't have a full sized spare tire, and needs to be priced lower.
The v6 delivers about 18% less MPG than is advertised/rated. The direct injection system adds 1 oz of oil in to the air intake manifold, every 3,400 miles and this will lead to carbon build up, at the time that you are most relying on Honda's longevity and reliability at (around) 300,000 miles.
The Passport Touring with its acoustic glass and sound dampening rims were sacrificed to allow the "just for looks" Trailsport, with its noisier cabin to exist.
The Passport isn't going to turn any heads nor attract buyers, from other brands, because of price alone. It's a Honda-boy thing.
Boring exterior style
Arm tests suck! AWD system is not very good. Stiff so you feel all the bumps especially if you’re riding in the passenger seat! Loud. I get 22 mpg and I drive very conservative. It not in the same class as a Four Runner!!!! Doesn’t come with full size spare.
4 Runner rides a lot rougher and gets worst gas mileage. 4Runner is cool, but drives like vehicles from 90’s. Sloppy.
Passport is comfy.
Worst gas mileage in its class