I’m still a fan of SP53 it’s a great knife for what it is meant for. I still can’t get over people talking about 1095 being different from 1070. Nobody could tell a difference. They read idiots on blade forums opinions and take them for gospel. Most have no clue these knife companies use marketing they sell everything is better then the next. Yet what they do is change steels names or use steel labeled from another country. Only thing that changed is the price went up. Really for the price in America Ontario can’t be beat. I know you pay more but the SP53 $60 when I just looked scene it as low $56. How can you beat that.
i def. agree!!! marketing, overhyped, fanboys, blade forum idiots knives - overpriced junk, for the money this knife is cool, also here in Europe!! better than ESEE, TOPS, SHITKNIVEN.......
I have one also - don’t feel bad - I don’t think any knife can survive Joe if he takes it full limit - in fact I think only some cold steel sword actually survived - at least we know the limits - but it could be fixed - remove the handle - weld some steel top and bottom of tang - then smooth out and attach slabs instead of the moulded handle - the handles the problem a thick tang would require a very thick handle - the blades are great but the whole so line would have the same weakness - still it is unlikely that anyone would ever do what Joe did - Joe does us the great service of showing how extreme can the blade take - this is a woods blade do I don’t think any activity bushcraft related would break this blade
just bought one today for $45. I'm pretty confident mine will never see the action that yours did. So, I'm pretty happy with my purchase. Thanks for your video.
Ontario! An American tradition i love all my Ontarios the sp10 and 53 are monsters those are the kinds of things that lend themselves to permanence they will be around for 100 years and more
I stumbled across your channel today Joe and can I say you are awesome sir! I can’t get enough of the insane destruction tests and the “Olympic” diving (you get a score of 10 from me) I did have one question, any plans to do a destruction test on the Leatherman Surge?
This is how knife reviews should have been made all this time. Someone who abuses the fk out of these knifes in any way and who enjoys while doing it. The combination of seriousness and madness is loveable
Every review I’ve seen of the Ontario SP50 (made of 5160 like that SP53) couldn’t chip or snap the knife, you can still buy it but they stopped making them, they make the Ontario Bushcraft Woodsman now instead, big chopper!, exactly the same length and thickness but made of 420HC like the gerber strongarm and they put a wooden handle on it
After a hard day work, i always enjoy your video along with some food and bevarage...... I think Tramontina machete will resist some time to your tests (i use some when i go in the forest, they're pretty solid)..... The only one who didnt brake was Hultafors HD, which i already bought ......im considering a StrongArm after your advice....
For the price is very good knife if you ask me, you are an entertainer and a very good tester of swords and knives,i god damn love to watch you r vids,i like how you jump in water,no offense but you crazy bro,not in the bad way 👍👍👍,good luck and keep up the nice work!!!
I think you can't break this knife against wood. Regular use of this knife is not crushing concrete. It is very useful to see the limits of these tools. Keep up the good work.
I'll give my two cents for the Tops differential heat treat. 5160 is supposed to be way tougher than 1095. Yet the Tops 1095 is more shock resistant in these tests. Also Ontario runs these at 53-55 hrc, which is crazy soft, so probably wouldn't hold a good edge. Something like the Silent Hero never broke on impact, and has a way harder edge.
I agree. I have a few TOPS and a few Ontarios and the TOPS are made much better from a fit and finish standpoint. All the SPs from Ontario are decent but they're all painted shit black, have garbage sheaths, and mine came with edges ground so horribly they genuinely couldn't cut anything. They're roughly half the price of TOPS and that's probably about right as TOPS are probably twice as good.
Aaaaaaahhhhhh....me he confundido, yo tengo el kukri de kabar y me estaba confundiendo ese con el kabar cutlass, cuál será mejor, el kabar o el ontario? A ver si alguna vez pruebas uno de esos machetes de kabar
Wow... It was doing so well until it broke at the handle. Just curious, where the blade meets the handle is the the tang cut at a sharp 90 degree angle to the blade or does it curve into the handle? If it is 90 degrees that would explain the easy break. Kabar knives have the problem
The more top-heavy the knife is, the more momentum it picks up when swung, and the more shock is transferred to the tang junction when striking hard, rigid materials. It's physically impossible to design an efficient chopping knife that will survive the brick test indefinitely. If you made the tang stronger, you would be increasing the overall weight of the knife while simultaneously lowering the point of balance.
Great test Joe! I am thinking after seeing this test and the Ontario RAT 7 test that Ontario's heat treat is not as good as it used to be, or, inconsistent. It's like they are overhardening them and not relieving the steel enough after. The way that tip snapped is a good example. A properly tempered 5160 steel should be super flexible and tough. This blade was not. I believe had it been tempered properly, that tang would not have broken and would have flexed instead. I saw in the comments here that you destroyed an SP5 so I'm curious if that one also had a heat treat problem? Maybe the Ontario Marine Raider Bowie just happened to have a better heat treat? Either way, this once again proves just how good Moras are! lol
EDITED to add that I think the only reason the SP53 did well initially is because it is so thick. The steel itself though did not seem to have any flex at all.
i did a different test back then with the SP10, maybe i will do another one with a SP10 in the future, i also tested already the SP5 and SP6, different results, videos still to come!!!
@@joex i bet it would be .... thats a long shift at the office ,over 2 years worth of content will take a bit of time ...well worth it ..for your and our amusement 😁👍
@@joex Ok, thank you. How did the grain look? It’s always helpful to see the steel grain so we can see how good the heat treat is. Smoother the better.
JOE, custom maker Dan Keffler one time made a 1/2” thick CPM 3V blade for Noss for the knifetest website. Noss could not break that knife and he hit sledgehammer multiple hammer hits. You should ask Dan Keffler to see if you can test his 1/2” CPM 3V knife, that he specifically made for the knifetests destruction course.
That's not a knife, that's a bloody sharpened crowbar :) Once you go over about 1cm in thickness, you'd be hard pressed to break any semi-decent steel.
These are the best beater machete like chopper you can get. I have two as I have my better ones stored away . The way it was taking out some black was why reallybigmonkey says this is one of the best heavy hitters you can get
I find myself doing more practical knife things on a daily basis... Hard connecting the mains w/blade instead of a stupid breaker, I know how much power I fooking need. Emergency tracheotomies, amputations, trepanning, bloodletting, and other field surgeries Testing my snow, Tony Montana-esque Screwdriver Makeshift spoon-spatula Lightning rod Cathartic knife sharpening, Hugo Stiglitz style th-cam.com/video/wGtSA18z3wc/w-d-xo.html Having Chuck Norris sign the blade with a plasma cutter (on low), sorry CN>JCVD As a piton when mountain climbing Affixed to a spear shaft for hunting grizzlies Footstep for tree stands Emergency brake pads Chocking trains/locomotives on tracks Knife throwing Electrical tester/probe Anchoring or docking boats Removing staples Tent stake, can opener That self-extrication through the window was legit though, often find myself in that scenario.
great video joe - you proved where the weakness of the sp line is - the blade is indestructible but the tang is to thin and i think they will all break at that point - i didn't like the way it bounced back at you - that could ha really injured you - the blade is heavy and the tang is to thin - it is full tang but i never liked those tangs - i would have used wider stock and simply used scales - lol joe - one day I'm just gonna cut up a flat pry bar and sharpen it up - i bet it would make an awesome blade
Some kind of ‘spring steel’ should be the toughest steel you do these tests on, I mean that is what spring steel is designed to do, be tough enough to take severe shocks
Buenos materiales.....el diseño deja lagunas importantes como el reparto de masas que lo.convierte en frágil en el punto del cabo. Aún así me parece un gran cuchillo
Another knife torture test by the legend Joe X 😀👍. Joe X can you do a test on the Ontario SP 51 2nd Gen knife ? I bought one 7 or 8 years ago as a heavy duty camp/bush survival knife . It’s made out of 5160 spring steel.I love to see how it holds up against Joe Xs torture test.
Hey Joe can you do a Ontario SP-5 video if not already in the works, seen your sp10 video the sp series just amazes me because you can get them for cheap but everyone bashes on them, yes it’s ugly looking compared to other knives but it works doesn’t have to be pretty to work is my thought but great videos keep them coming
This was not surprising for me, they sre known to do that. Great video! I have a request on a machete that you could test, i think this will bring a lot of views because it is a loved machete. The condor bushcraft parang. Cheers man!
It was going all so well until the brick test the tang didn't match the size of the blade , handle construction very durable and looks comfortable, but at the end of the day it was in bits by the destroyers hands ✋ Joe the knife 🔪 killer , I definitely think Joe is the missing link between fish and man hahaha 😀 😄 hail Joe hail Joe hail Joe ♥ 😀 😄 😉 💙 👍 ♥ 😀 😄 😉 💙.
If It is not laser engraved 5160-OKC USA on the blade, It comes in the cheap 1075. Some people is talking about idiots on blade forums but, for sure,they are the smartest and the most intelligent people out there. When you are interested in buying a knife, you have to have the real info on the steel just to decide on. If you like the 1075 steel is Ok, but Ontario does not give the proper info just to know the type of steel you are buying. They transitioned to 1075 years ago, neither 5160 nor 1095 are available yet but the stores are selling their knives giving wrong info. I bought my Sp53 Bolo and the RTAK II both sold as 5160 steel and finally came in 1075 steel. If you want to have a 1075 steel Ontario knife buy It now, perhaps they are thinking to transition to an even cheaper 1055 steel without notice next time, who knows. No more Ontario knives for me. I do not know if Esee or Tops are overpriced but, for sure, you know what you are buying. Regards.
Watching some of these XL knives perform makes me wonder how a simple lawn mower blade would hold up in testing. Or perhaps simple tools like wrenches or screwdrivers, wonder what they'd do under these conditions! 😃
You should call yourself JOE THE DESTROYER!!!! That one did ok. It seems that the cheaper knives are better for bashing around. The expensive ones just seem like a pretty thing to look at. If that knife was full tang, it would be much better. If you need a good handle, the Ontario is perfect!😂 How was the water?
@@joex, I’ve swam in an inlet from the ocean. Our son was hot and so was I and the beach was too far so we swam in the creek. There was fish guts, (I pulled up a bag from the bottom full of fish heads) black smelly mud and sludge. We stunk when we got out. Other kids saw us swimming in there and jumped In too. We were all lucky not to get sick.😂
cool 😎, das sind genau die Messer , die man nicht auf eine Einsame Insel mit nehmen sollte . Ich nehme da lieber Leberkässe und Bier 🍺 mit , ins Schlauchboot . 😀 Die Ersten 7 tinge die ich nicht mit nehme ,in die Wildnis ,wenn ums Überleben geht . Das Messer steht auch drauf .
Man, I would love to see someone send you an older 1095 steel Ontario to see how it would hold up. I see older Ontario SP10's and SP5's in 1095 pretty frequently on eBay USA. Maybe one of the more well to do viewers could send you one to test in the near future.
@@joex Yeah, I have a couple of them now and have had a few of them in the past. I never tried to destroy any of them, but their tips and edges always held up well to intense batoning and digging out grubs. One thing I will say about them is that the old 1095 steel Ontario used was absolutely awesome to sharpen and to hold an edge. I could get any of them screaming sharp with the crudest of sharpeners. So I think that older steel was really excellent.
@@joex Forgot to add that my newer 1080 Ontario SP5 was noticeably more difficult to sharpen than my older 1095 SP5. If the heat treat was correct, they should both be similar as far as ease of sharpening. So that tells me something is not right with the newer ones.
JOE good point. I know we are all tired of the possibilities of a knife that only cuts wood. And it comes with a dive gag （： I'm Japanese, so I'm dreaming of "I cut something TUMARANAI (boring) again" with the ZANTETUKEN (KATANA) of "Ishikawa Goemon" in the manga "Lupin the Third". Also, I am secretly hoping that JOE will crush the high-grade steel. Dreams are good, that's why JOE's crazy is interesting and intelligent.
He has a couple in 3v that he broke (I, with some safely, assume anyway) a few weeks ago that should feed that desire to see him crush some high grade steel once the videos come out. Though to be fair, 3v does deserve a somewhat better showing than the one it already got with Joe. It was a pretty highly overpriced trash specimen. He broke it hilariously easily.
unless its an older stock blade and marked 5160 on it its probably 1075 steel ,ontario swapped the steel several years ago,im not sure they even make this model anymore they are mostly churning out crap nowadays.theres a thread from tooj one of the now retired engineers from okc on bladeforums about it,ontario kept advertising their products under false pretense for years so they paid for 1095 and 5160 but got 1075.
That model knife is still 5160 that is not a expensive steel. Also 1070 isn’t really a down grade unless you listen to people on the internet. What makes you believe they are turning out crap? That really shows how little you know. Blade forms are full of idiots that believe their own bull then have someone co-sign if you disagree they throw you off. I’m a old iron worker and mechanic my grandfathers were both machinist. So I have a background being around steel.
@@richardhenry1969 my opinion is based on that i have owned probably 20 ontario knives,the last 6 i bought was absolute crap,grinds so wonked the edge was literally flat,blades who rattled inside the handle because ontario ran out of correct stock of steel and used thinner crap they had around and advised me to wrap the tang with tape or glue,when they changed the rubber in the handle so the guard didnt stop you hand to without force slide onto the blade,the machete that was so thin and not the 3mm that the site said that the blade literally bent like an U on the first strike,another knife was so badly heat treated the edge buckled like a paper cup when you crush it with your hand,what the hell do you know about ontario. the list goes on with faulty crap they churned out and then they stopped answering on customers service,even their retailer couldnt get them to respond.,they removed their contact forums submit button.
@@iscariotproject I’ve had a very good experience. The only thing on mine was the grind. That doesn’t bother me because I change it anyway. I convex all my knives. As far as anything else I have no issues. My two favorites are sp5, and the sp53 I also have the kukri I just don’t use it much. My wife keeps it in case someone gets passed the dogs. Lol I guess with lower prices comes quality control. Seems people don’t take pride in their job like they used to. Sad really
At 0.6% Carbon I'm surprised to see 5160 break like that. Then again it is a very long blade and the handle is not full tang. That said, if you get a Busse (or Swamp Rat/Scrap Yard) those knives will not break like this.
@@conservativesniperhunter7439 I'm not so sure: th-cam.com/video/jwcRSU0R8kE/w-d-xo.html The old destruction tests from "Noss" don't have exactly the same kind of spine whacking as Joe-X does, Joe is very specifically testing shock loading with almost no static loading, the Noss tests feature more static loading, but the end of the test with the hammer makes me suspect a Busse can't be broken by hand.
@@budthecyborg4575 I think beating a rock with a knife of any real blade length will break it pretty quickly. It's worth noting not only how crazy of an abusive thing that is to do to a thin slab of steel but Joe repeats it often dozens and dozens of times and that's before or after other hard abuse. It's not reasonable to expect a knife to really "pass" the tests unless it's just a really small knife in a soft steel which aren't good for a lot of tasks knives are needed for. These destruction tests would probably destroy actual hammers most of the time and they're MADE for this type of task. A knife is made for cutting after all, not rock breaking. They're interesting and entertaining non-scientific tests but I often think that to make a knife that does much better than a lot of these knives you'd have to basically make a knife that's really shitty at actually being a knife and is just a bar of soft steel with no edge or point.
@@DL-ij7tf The Gerber Strongarm already survived a session of rock smashing, the only problem with that test is he moved straight to destroying it with prying impacts instead of hitting the blade on the steel rod. It's possible the Strongarm would have survived the rod too, but at the very least we know there is a category of knives that won't break just smashing it on a rock.
Otherwise sturdy knife felled too easily by a single narrow weak point. One for the recurring lesson that geometry is king. Then heat treat matters second most. Then steel. Unless we are talking something outright low toughness vs something very high toughness. It does matter, and at significant differences it will be clearly felt.
You have a good channel and an idea, great ... But knives such as cold Steel or Ontario etc are weak knives ... See how many more views and likes you have on a knife, e.g. fallkniven or buck ... good knife has a lot of views in reviews, I'm curious if your test will pass ... Regards ... 👌🏽👊🏽💪 Falkniwen skaut r2
Eine Sache verstehe ich nicht, ; WAS TESTEST DU EIGENTLICH?? Wie schnell man etwas zerstören kann? Ein Messer ist Werkzeug oder/und Waffe, und wird dementsprechend verwendet. Aber Granit versuchen zu schneiden-wer macht so etwas mit Messer?? Und danach wie bekloppt draufhammern bis es bricht? Würdest du Gewehre testen, würdest dann auch auf Stein prügeln, und welche sich am wenigsten verbiegt ist die beste??
@@joex eventuell Mal anderes testen; wie schnell wird die Klinge stumpf wenn man zb. Karton, Kabel oder ähnliches schneidet, wie leicht oder schwer kann man es wieder scharf bekommen, wie ist praktische nützen, etwa Essen Zubereitung, Blechdose aufmachen, Holz schnitzen..wie ist Handhabung, ist es auf Dauer bequem damit zu arbeiten, drückt irgendwo, wie ist Scheide/ Clip? Es wäre sinnvoller als nur zerstören.
Gerber LMF infantry will always be a monster that would simply never happen with the infantry I love my infantry green LMF ii and my sp53 but this kind of failure just isn’t possible on an infantry ii or strongarm.
@@joex ? it spent the last 20 years on the frontlines of the war on terrorism making a name for itself lots of kids carried it. Im a marine so Im biased but that kind of record speaks for itself. No one was humping around with a 53
I’m still a fan of SP53 it’s a great knife for what it is meant for.
I still can’t get over people talking about 1095 being different from 1070. Nobody could tell a difference. They read idiots on blade forums opinions and take them for gospel.
Most have no clue these knife companies use marketing they sell everything is better then the next. Yet what they do is change steels names or use steel labeled from another country. Only thing that changed is the price went up.
Really for the price in America Ontario can’t be beat. I know you pay more but the SP53 $60 when I just looked scene it as low $56. How can you beat that.
i def. agree!!! marketing, overhyped, fanboys, blade forum idiots knives - overpriced junk, for the money this knife is cool, also here in Europe!! better than ESEE, TOPS, SHITKNIVEN.......
The only steel I trust in my life is “SS Pakistan”
@@ElCapAddict 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣
I have one also - don’t feel bad - I don’t think any knife can survive Joe if he takes it full limit - in fact I think only some cold steel sword actually survived - at least we know the limits - but it could be fixed - remove the handle - weld some steel top and bottom of tang - then smooth out and attach slabs instead of the moulded handle - the handles the problem a thick tang would require a very thick handle - the blades are great but the whole so line would have the same weakness - still it is unlikely that anyone would ever do what Joe did - Joe does us the great service of showing how extreme can the blade take - this is a woods blade do I don’t think any activity bushcraft related would break this blade
@@ElCapAddict.😂
Every time you jump in the water, it makes me laugh so hard😅
awesome!
Not bad for a narrow designed half tang knife. The blade broke at the narrowest point. Great test results.
yeah, thanks!
just bought one today for $45. I'm pretty confident mine will never see the action that yours did. So, I'm pretty happy with my purchase. Thanks for your video.
u are welcome! cheers!
Ontario! An American tradition i love all my Ontarios the sp10 and 53 are monsters those are the kinds of things that lend themselves to permanence they will be around for 100 years and more
hopefully!
I stumbled across your channel today Joe and can I say you are awesome sir!
I can’t get enough of the insane destruction tests and the “Olympic” diving (you get a score of 10 from me)
I did have one question, any plans to do a destruction test on the Leatherman Surge?
thanks a lot, Leatherman, i will take a look!!
I've used these for camping tasks in the past and always had great results from the SP line up. Great blades for the $$.
true"!
After all this abuse and tests...which knife is you favorite one?
He told me that the Cold steel sr1 lite is the best folding one, i wonder what’s joe’s favorite fixed blade knife
@@ItalianShooter01 thx for info...
He once said Tops Steel Eagle
4 max scout is a beast!
video soon!!!
This is how knife reviews should have been made all this time. Someone who abuses the fk out of these knifes in any way and who enjoys while doing it. The combination of seriousness and madness is loveable
cool, thanks a lot!
I’m sticking with my Ontario SP-10 Raider Bowie but I’d like to see a condor bushlore have the shit kicked out it
Ps great video
thanks!
Every review I’ve seen of the Ontario SP50 (made of 5160 like that SP53) couldn’t chip or snap the knife, you can still buy it but they stopped making them, they make the Ontario Bushcraft Woodsman now instead, big chopper!, exactly the same length and thickness but made of 420HC like the gerber strongarm and they put a wooden handle on it
ok! i will check it out!
After a hard day work, i always enjoy your video along with some food and bevarage......
I think Tramontina machete will resist some time to your tests (i use some when i go in the forest, they're pretty solid).....
The only one who didnt brake was Hultafors HD, which i already bought ......im considering a StrongArm after your advice....
Strongarm is cool! Tramontina, yeah, why not!!! Mahlzeit!!
@@joex Danke schön!
For the price is very good knife if you ask me, you are an entertainer and a very good tester of swords and knives,i god damn love to watch you r vids,i like how you jump in water,no offense but you crazy bro,not in the bad way 👍👍👍,good luck and keep up the nice work!!!
thanks, i know, my brain is not working so good!!! cheers!! haha!!!
@@joex well it works how it should for what you do, that's 100%👍👍👍
I think you can't break this knife against wood. Regular use of this knife is not crushing concrete. It is very useful to see the limits of these tools. Keep up the good work.
thanks i will try!
I'll give my two cents for the Tops differential heat treat. 5160 is supposed to be way tougher than 1095. Yet the Tops 1095 is more shock resistant in these tests. Also Ontario runs these at 53-55 hrc, which is crazy soft, so probably wouldn't hold a good edge. Something like the Silent Hero never broke on impact, and has a way harder edge.
thanks for the info!!
I agree. I have a few TOPS and a few Ontarios and the TOPS are made much better from a fit and finish standpoint. All the SPs from Ontario are decent but they're all painted shit black, have garbage sheaths, and mine came with edges ground so horribly they genuinely couldn't cut anything. They're roughly half the price of TOPS and that's probably about right as TOPS are probably twice as good.
Because the stick tang on OKC SP-53 is very narrow like 1" wide so of course it snapped like a piece of glass.
@@PerceptionVsReality333
Me encantan los ontario sp, tengo el kukri y es brutal!
Como siempre gran vídeo y vídeo y fantásticas pruebas.
Un saludo
Aaaaaaahhhhhh....me he confundido, yo tengo el kukri de kabar y me estaba confundiendo ese con el kabar cutlass, cuál será mejor, el kabar o el ontario? A ver si alguna vez pruebas uno de esos machetes de kabar
@@loboibero7512 Del Kabar Cutlass tiene unas pruebas
gracias!
Ontario Kukri on the other hand!
si, tengo un video a el channel!
Wow... It was doing so well until it broke at the handle. Just curious, where the blade meets the handle is the the tang cut at a sharp 90 degree angle to the blade or does it curve into the handle? If it is 90 degrees that would explain the easy break. Kabar knives have the problem
i don't know, this is why i show the knife all the time in the camera!!!
@@joex Well you'd have to cut the handle rubber off to see the answer to his question.
@@joex actually nevermind your video does show that it is pretty much a hard 90 degree transition from handle to blade.
wouldn't this be false advertisement it says its full tang clearly it's not
@@MichaelGhost It's fully tang it just broke inside the handle.
Great Test, you were giving that blade a beating! check your foot joe..lol..
thanks Rorry!
The more top-heavy the knife is, the more momentum it picks up when swung, and the more shock is transferred to the tang junction when striking hard, rigid materials. It's physically impossible to design an efficient chopping knife that will survive the brick test indefinitely. If you made the tang stronger, you would be increasing the overall weight of the knife while simultaneously lowering the point of balance.
ok thanks for the info!
You should cut that handle open. I thing the tang broke in half cause it goes all the way through to the eyelet.
i was too lazy to do that, this is why i shot it!
This is a wonderful channel.thank you
glad u like my sheat!
Great test Joe! I am thinking after seeing this test and the Ontario RAT 7 test that Ontario's heat treat is not as good as it used to be, or, inconsistent. It's like they are overhardening them and not relieving the steel enough after. The way that tip snapped is a good example. A properly tempered 5160 steel should be super flexible and tough. This blade was not. I believe had it been tempered properly, that tang would not have broken and would have flexed instead. I saw in the comments here that you destroyed an SP5 so I'm curious if that one also had a heat treat problem? Maybe the Ontario Marine Raider Bowie just happened to have a better heat treat? Either way, this once again proves just how good Moras are! lol
EDITED to add that I think the only reason the SP53 did well initially is because it is so thick. The steel itself though did not seem to have any flex at all.
i did a different test back then with the SP10, maybe i will do another one with a SP10 in the future, i also tested already the SP5 and SP6, different results, videos still to come!!!
correct, NO FLEX !!!
@@joex Looking forward to seeing them!
The toughness of the grippy rubber handles is showing here.
No G10 splinters needed.
Hi joe can you try the extrema ratio Col moschin?
no sorry!
You need to time frame that bricks life journey.. watching it shrink would be fun 👍😁
thats actually a good idea, i used this guy since the "beginning", editing will be a horror!!!
@@joex i bet it would be .... thats a long shift at the office ,over 2 years worth of content will take a bit of time ...well worth it ..for your and our amusement 😁👍
5160 steel can sure take a beating. Definitely on par with S7 with the right heat treatment.
cool!
Thanks! Do you have a picture of the grain structure of the steel??
only what u see in the video!
@@joex Ok, thank you. How did the grain look? It’s always helpful to see the steel grain so we can see how good the heat treat is. Smoother the better.
@@RogerF ok, i will try to get pics out of the footage and post it on the community page!
@@joex Thank you sir!
Try out the cold steel tai pan in cpm 3v next
Nice vid man 👍
thanks!
JOE, custom maker Dan Keffler one time made a 1/2” thick CPM 3V blade for Noss for the knifetest website. Noss could not break that knife and he hit sledgehammer multiple hammer hits. You should ask Dan Keffler to see if you can test his 1/2” CPM 3V knife, that he specifically made for the knifetests destruction course.
ok i will!
That's not a knife, that's a bloody sharpened crowbar :) Once you go over about 1cm in thickness, you'd be hard pressed to break any semi-decent steel.
@@happychappy2014 🤣🤣
You're knife reviews are the best. Looking forward to more reviews.
i will try!!! thanks!
These are the best beater machete like chopper you can get. I have two as I have my better ones stored away . The way it was taking out some black was why reallybigmonkey says this is one of the best heavy hitters you can get
it choops awesome for sure, but it broke in the handle, which is not a plus!!!
I find myself doing more practical knife things on a daily basis...
Hard connecting the mains w/blade instead of a stupid breaker, I know how much power I fooking need.
Emergency tracheotomies, amputations, trepanning, bloodletting, and other field surgeries
Testing my snow, Tony Montana-esque
Screwdriver
Makeshift spoon-spatula
Lightning rod
Cathartic knife sharpening, Hugo Stiglitz style th-cam.com/video/wGtSA18z3wc/w-d-xo.html
Having Chuck Norris sign the blade with a plasma cutter (on low), sorry CN>JCVD
As a piton when mountain climbing
Affixed to a spear shaft for hunting grizzlies
Footstep for tree stands
Emergency brake pads
Chocking trains/locomotives on tracks
Knife throwing
Electrical tester/probe
Anchoring or docking boats
Removing staples
Tent stake, can opener
That self-extrication through the window was legit though, often find myself in that scenario.
i think i love you!!!
great video joe - you proved where the weakness of the sp line is - the blade is indestructible but the tang is to thin and i think they will all break at that point - i didn't like the way it bounced back at you - that could ha really injured you - the blade is heavy and the tang is to thin - it is full tang but i never liked those tangs - i would have used wider stock and simply used scales - lol joe - one day I'm just gonna cut up a flat pry bar and sharpen it up - i bet it would make an awesome blade
for sure, and than send it to me, i will fucakk it up!
Blade too hard. Snapped without bending both times
He needs to make a blade from the metal pipe he uses
@@riverjordan2637 the metal pipe is mighty indeed - it and the cockroaches will be last standing after the coming nuclear war
@@joex you probably will my friend 🙂
Some kind of ‘spring steel’ should be the toughest steel you do these tests on, I mean that is what spring steel is designed to do, be tough enough to take severe shocks
ok, thanks for the info!
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE JOE-X TEST BUSSE COMBAT SR101/SR77/INOX STEELS
ok, noted!
Buenos materiales.....el diseño deja lagunas importantes como el reparto de masas que lo.convierte en frágil en el punto del cabo.
Aún así me parece un gran cuchillo
ok!
ANY knife would of broke when subjected to that brutality.
nope!
Another knife torture test by the legend Joe X 😀👍.
Joe X can you do a test on the Ontario SP 51 2nd Gen knife ? I bought one 7 or 8 years ago as a heavy duty camp/bush survival knife . It’s made out of 5160 spring steel.I love to see how it holds up against Joe Xs torture test.
thanks, at the moment not, maybe later!
I have three sp models and they all have the same tang design - imho they will all break the same way
Hey Joe can you do a Ontario SP-5 video if not already in the works, seen your sp10 video the sp series just amazes me because you can get them for cheap but everyone bashes on them, yes it’s ugly looking compared to other knives but it works doesn’t have to be pretty to work is my thought but great videos keep them coming
i fuckked the SP 5 and the SP 6 already, will do those vids soon!! u will love the SP 6 vid!!!
Thanks so much man I can’t wait to see them!!!
full tang?
Love these videos. Can you do some of the bigger machetes like the cold steel Chinese war sword machete? Keep hammering!
thanks!
Why I like full-frame tangs.
like them too!
Hey Joe, how about selling merchandise...like ripped T shirts and broken mugs ? 🐝👊👍
good idea, i was thinking about some stuff, but i need more audience first!!!
congrats on the new ride
thanks i is a black porsche!
This was not surprising for me, they sre known to do that. Great video! I have a request on a machete that you could test, i think this will bring a lot of views because it is a loved machete. The condor bushcraft parang. Cheers man!
i will look into that, cheers Andi!
I finded the video of 5160 steel 😎
cool!
It was going all so well until the brick test the tang didn't match the size of the blade , handle construction very durable and looks comfortable, but at the end of the day it was in bits by the destroyers hands ✋ Joe the knife 🔪 killer , I definitely think Joe is the missing link between fish and man hahaha 😀 😄 hail Joe hail Joe hail Joe ♥ 😀 😄 😉 💙 👍 ♥ 😀 😄 😉 💙.
thanks margaret!
It's amazing to survive to a 9 mm shot but 5,56 was hard hitting
5,56 is tooo fast!!!
@@joex
"Speed kills"
Cus D'Amato
This reminds me of the old movie Jason!!! Fkn badass man!
haha, thanks! i would have fight this dude with my broken Fälkniven!
If It is not laser engraved 5160-OKC USA on the blade, It comes in the cheap 1075. Some people is talking about idiots on blade forums but, for sure,they are the smartest and the most intelligent people out there.
When you are interested in buying a knife, you have to have the real info on the steel just to decide on. If you like the 1075 steel is Ok, but Ontario does not give the proper info just to know the type of steel you are buying.
They transitioned to 1075 years ago, neither 5160 nor 1095 are available yet but the stores are selling their knives giving wrong info.
I bought my Sp53 Bolo and the RTAK II both sold as 5160 steel and finally came in 1075 steel.
If you want to have a 1075 steel Ontario knife buy It now, perhaps they are thinking to transition to an even cheaper 1055 steel without notice next time, who knows.
No more Ontario knives for me. I do not know if Esee or Tops are overpriced but, for sure, you know what you are buying.
Regards.
ok, thanks for the info!!! cheers!
Durable knife: how many inches long blade, how many inches wide blade
we think in cm! sorry!!!
Great video!
thanks!
Watching some of these XL knives perform makes me wonder how a simple lawn mower blade would hold up in testing. Or perhaps simple tools like wrenches or screwdrivers, wonder what they'd do under these conditions! 😃
good idea, i will do some!
"It ain't got no gas in it" lol
Can you test Fallkniven modern bowie
maybe later!
You should call yourself JOE THE DESTROYER!!!! That one did ok. It seems that the cheaper knives are better for bashing around. The expensive ones just seem like a pretty thing to look at.
If that knife was full tang, it would be much better. If you need a good handle, the Ontario is perfect!😂
How was the water?
sumertime, about 28 C!! little bit smelly, but i like dead fish!! (CIVIVI ELEMENTUM) "JOE the "BARBARIAN", the Destroyer belongs to ARNOLD!! cheers!
@@joex, I’ve swam in an inlet from the ocean. Our son was hot and so was I and the beach was too far so we swam in the creek. There was fish guts, (I pulled up a bag from the bottom full of fish heads) black smelly mud and sludge. We stunk when we got out. Other kids saw us swimming in there and jumped In too. We were all lucky not to get sick.😂
I was hopping for a little better from this knife👍👍👍👍👍
despite the breaking it was ok!
cool 😎, das sind genau die Messer , die man nicht auf eine Einsame Insel mit nehmen sollte . Ich nehme da lieber Leberkässe und Bier 🍺 mit , ins Schlauchboot . 😀 Die Ersten 7 tinge die ich nicht mit nehme ,in die Wildnis ,wenn ums Überleben geht . Das Messer steht auch drauf .
supi!
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@@trontitan9496 me no french!
@@joex das ist , das Messer was vielleicht dein ting ist . Brich die Wildsteer Legende 😀
Man, I would love to see someone send you an older 1095 steel Ontario to see how it would hold up. I see older Ontario SP10's and SP5's in 1095 pretty frequently on eBay USA. Maybe one of the more well to do viewers could send you one to test in the near future.
that would be awesome, i didn't know that they used 1095 in the past!!
@@joex Yeah, I have a couple of them now and have had a few of them in the past. I never tried to destroy any of them, but their tips and edges always held up well to intense batoning and digging out grubs. One thing I will say about them is that the old 1095 steel Ontario used was absolutely awesome to sharpen and to hold an edge. I could get any of them screaming sharp with the crudest of sharpeners. So I think that older steel was really excellent.
@@JohnB-dr8sk ok, cool!
@@joex Forgot to add that my newer 1080 Ontario SP5 was noticeably more difficult to sharpen than my older 1095 SP5. If the heat treat was correct, they should both be similar as far as ease of sharpening. So that tells me something is not right with the newer ones.
Have you tested RAT1-AUS8
not yet i think!
Hahaha... Amazing Intro...🌊😸
gracias Antica!! mucho gusto!
Nice as usual)) My cardiologist restricted me to watch your videos... Did you ever have idea to make top 3 or 5 knives you tortured?
i have some "Top 3" check my vids!
So this one or the Marine Raider Bowie?
SP-10 !!!
Been waiting for this one. Is the Ontario Crow Bar blade next? Or did you fook that one already?
A fooking beer 🍻
8:20 so sad, bye bye
This isnt the first SP ive seen break at the muchi handle
never heard of that one!
@@TheGunsNBlades did your shit looked better today?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thought steel, but knife construction could be better in my opinion
yeah a tiny bit!!
JOE good point.
I know we are all tired of the possibilities of a knife that only cuts wood.
And it comes with a dive gag （：
I'm Japanese, so I'm dreaming of "I cut something TUMARANAI (boring) again" with the ZANTETUKEN (KATANA) of "Ishikawa Goemon" in the manga "Lupin the Third".
Also, I am secretly hoping that JOE will crush the high-grade steel.
Dreams are good, that's why JOE's crazy is interesting and intelligent.
I did an Ironman in Japan once, in Go To Nagasaki, i think! Beer is expensive there!!!!
He has a couple in 3v that he broke (I, with some safely, assume anyway) a few weeks ago that should feed that desire to see him crush some high grade steel once the videos come out.
Though to be fair, 3v does deserve a somewhat better showing than the one it already got with Joe. It was a pretty highly overpriced trash specimen. He broke it hilariously easily.
Piece of crap! Well heat treated 5160 should take the same punishment as 1055 does!
Any production product can have the occasional bad egg. The sp10 was one of the toughest he’s tested.
@@krisrhebergen Joe is testing a lot of “bad eggs”, then. A shame for the knife industry. Quality control should increase much.
bad egg, haha, never, then nearly every knife i tested was a bad egg, fuckking bullshitt!!!!!
@@joex Precisely!😂😂😂😂😂
Joe x. you're a fuck'n mad man. I love it
i love u too!!!
Sadly that's just 1095/75 unless it specifically says 5160 marked on the side of the blade
ok, thanks for the info"
What a break 😁😁😁
indeed!!!
iam realy close to sending you a busse
that would be fantastic!!!!!
Man 5160 is a tough steel
it says it is 1095 or 1075?
@@joex oh whatever it is it kick's ass
@@WednesdaysWastWendigo true my friend!
unless its an older stock blade and marked 5160 on it its probably 1075 steel ,ontario swapped the steel several years ago,im not sure they even make this model anymore they are mostly churning out crap nowadays.theres a thread from tooj one of the now retired engineers from okc on bladeforums about it,ontario kept advertising their products under false pretense for years so they paid for 1095 and 5160 but got 1075.
That model knife is still 5160 that is not a expensive steel. Also 1070 isn’t really a down grade unless you listen to people on the internet.
What makes you believe they are turning out crap? That really shows how little you know. Blade forms are full of idiots that believe their own bull then have someone co-sign if you disagree they throw you off. I’m a old iron worker and mechanic my grandfathers were both machinist. So I have a background being around steel.
@@richardhenry1969 my opinion is based on that i have owned probably 20 ontario knives,the last 6 i bought was absolute crap,grinds so wonked the edge was literally flat,blades who rattled inside the handle because ontario ran out of correct stock of steel and used thinner crap they had around and advised me to wrap the tang with tape or glue,when they changed the rubber in the handle so the guard didnt stop you hand to without force slide onto the blade,the machete that was so thin and not the 3mm that the site said that the blade literally bent like an U on the first strike,another knife was so badly heat treated the edge buckled like a paper cup when you crush it with your hand,what the hell do you know about ontario.
the list goes on with faulty crap they churned out and then they stopped answering on customers service,even their retailer couldnt get them to respond.,they removed their contact forums submit button.
www.lamnia.com/de/p/43721/messer/ontario-sp-53-bolo-messer-8689
here i bought it, says still 5160
i agree on the blade forum idiots 100 %!!!
@@iscariotproject I’ve had a very good experience. The only thing on mine was the grind. That doesn’t bother me because I change it anyway. I convex all my knives. As far as anything else I have no issues. My two favorites are sp5, and the sp53 I also have the kukri I just don’t use it much. My wife keeps it in case someone gets passed the dogs. Lol I guess with lower prices comes quality control. Seems people don’t take pride in their job like they used to. Sad really
At 0.6% Carbon I'm surprised to see 5160 break like that.
Then again it is a very long blade and the handle is not full tang.
That said, if you get a Busse (or Swamp Rat/Scrap Yard) those knives will not break like this.
You don't know that. Lots of people said the 5160 wouldn't break like this.
Joe X will make it break , don’t you worry about that .
@@conservativesniperhunter7439 I'm not so sure: th-cam.com/video/jwcRSU0R8kE/w-d-xo.html
The old destruction tests from "Noss" don't have exactly the same kind of spine whacking as Joe-X does, Joe is very specifically testing shock loading with almost no static loading, the Noss tests feature more static loading, but the end of the test with the hammer makes me suspect a Busse can't be broken by hand.
@@budthecyborg4575 I think beating a rock with a knife of any real blade length will break it pretty quickly. It's worth noting not only how crazy of an abusive thing that is to do to a thin slab of steel but Joe repeats it often dozens and dozens of times and that's before or after other hard abuse. It's not reasonable to expect a knife to really "pass" the tests unless it's just a really small knife in a soft steel which aren't good for a lot of tasks knives are needed for. These destruction tests would probably destroy actual hammers most of the time and they're MADE for this type of task. A knife is made for cutting after all, not rock breaking. They're interesting and entertaining non-scientific tests but I often think that to make a knife that does much better than a lot of these knives you'd have to basically make a knife that's really shitty at actually being a knife and is just a bar of soft steel with no edge or point.
@@DL-ij7tf The Gerber Strongarm already survived a session of rock smashing, the only problem with that test is he moved straight to destroying it with prying impacts instead of hitting the blade on the steel rod. It's possible the Strongarm would have survived the rod too, but at the very least we know there is a category of knives that won't break just smashing it on a rock.
Peccato sembrava un coltello molto resistente! Buona vita Joe!
gracias Nicola!
Please can you bayonet ak47 and bayonet m7 us test ?
no sorry!
I have this blade and thought it was indestructible....
It is def not!!!💥
I want one now. Took a shit ton of abuse.
yeah but it is too heavy up front for the tiny handle tang!!!
Otherwise sturdy knife felled too easily by a single narrow weak point. One for the recurring lesson that geometry is king.
Then heat treat matters second most.
Then steel. Unless we are talking something outright low toughness vs something very high toughness. It does matter, and at significant differences it will be clearly felt.
cool, thanks for the intel! weak point is weak point!!!
Hey Joe X I have a pry bar you can test lol.. Watch for my short.....
i have some, whick one u want to see? that one in the middle??
@@joex you see my short! Lol
@@KnivesSurvival i like pussys sorry!🤣🤣🤣
What I learned today- Antlers are natures hammers.
good, bravo!
hey, do you watch Tac? Similar passion
No!
@@joex Tac say is he don't know you as well hehe, but world is small :)
this is Tac profile ;)
th-cam.com/users/cbr600rrturbo
Hey, did you guys was able to connect? :)
@@kingofkings89pl not yet!
Do ESEE Gibson Axe!
Bro 😂 you fucking rock 😂
yeah, fuckkking yeah!!
I bet Michael voorhees and freddy Kruger afraid of you.😮
they are burried here!
That's the knife that can take back Canada.
if u said Iceland, i would agree!
Love it...lol is there any Machete you can't Fuck up?
Cold Steels did awesome!
upload this fast and you're gonna run outta knives!!!!
not really, i have stuff already, Fanboys watch out!
ahaha i love you my friend
😂🤣🤣🤣
👍👍
Not even 2 minutes in and he's chopping on laminated glass. lol
sure, what else?
You have a good channel and an idea, great ... But knives such as cold Steel or Ontario etc are weak knives ... See how many more views and likes you have on a knife, e.g. fallkniven or buck ... good knife has a lot of views in reviews, I'm curious if your test will pass ... Regards ... 👌🏽👊🏽💪 Falkniwen skaut r2
i fuckked a Falkniven Elmax R2 pretty hard already, video is coming soon!!! Fanboys will cry!!!
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Prost!
@@joex Próst
1095 steel is more stronger
maybe
c4ta😛
yeah!
😎👍👍
No pro
Too may rookies, not enough pros.
@@ElCapAddict Yeah boy
@@ElCapAddict Southeast Asia 🌏
@@ElCapAddict I go to sleep 😴😴 Bye boy 😉😉😆😆🤣🤣
@@vietnamsurvival7213 Goodnight daddy
Eine Sache verstehe ich nicht, ; WAS TESTEST DU EIGENTLICH?? Wie schnell man etwas zerstören kann? Ein Messer ist Werkzeug oder/und Waffe, und wird dementsprechend verwendet. Aber Granit versuchen zu schneiden-wer macht so etwas mit Messer?? Und danach wie bekloppt draufhammern bis es bricht? Würdest du Gewehre testen, würdest dann auch auf Stein prügeln, und welche sich am wenigsten verbiegt ist die beste??
Oje, Fanboy?
@@joex eventuell Mal anderes testen; wie schnell wird die Klinge stumpf wenn man zb. Karton, Kabel oder ähnliches schneidet, wie leicht oder schwer kann man es wieder scharf bekommen, wie ist praktische nützen, etwa Essen Zubereitung, Blechdose aufmachen, Holz schnitzen..wie ist Handhabung, ist es auf Dauer bequem damit zu arbeiten, drückt irgendwo, wie ist Scheide/ Clip?
Es wäre sinnvoller als nur zerstören.
@@MadMax-vc6fh Dazu gibt es doch schon millionen Tests. Zu jedem der zerstörten Messer gibt es bereits weniger krasse Tests. Schau Dir jene an!
@@MadMax-vc6fh nein auf das kacke ich!!🤣🤣🤣
@@bernhard7658
What a waste of a knife
true
@@joex
Guess it makes you a few quid though...😜
Gerber LMF infantry will always be a monster that would simply never happen with the infantry I love my infantry green LMF ii and my sp53 but this kind of failure just isn’t possible on an infantry ii or strongarm.
ok
i dont believe in the LMF, weird design!
@@joex ? it spent the last 20 years on the frontlines of the war on terrorism making a name for itself lots of kids carried it. Im a marine so Im biased but that kind of record speaks for itself. No one was humping around with a 53
@@Person0fColor ok cool!👍👍👍
@@joex dood get over yourself 😂
You fukkkng civilians man 😂