Can Mick Do MIDI? [Plus FX Pedal Loop Switcher Basics] That Pedal Show

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  • @pigracer6885
    @pigracer6885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    That moment when you realize this thrown together pedal board is worth more than the first three cars I owned

    • @mydayis5
      @mydayis5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Add the Two Rock and theMarshall and it’s more than my first house! 😂

    • @8466849
      @8466849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Preamp $749, Klone $190, Monk $259, Delay $399, Reverb $899, G3 Atom $799, pedal board ~$300 = about $3600 before cables, power, tax, shipping, guitars or amps, but the TONE = Priceless!!!

    • @daveesco1
      @daveesco1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah, and how in the past they refer to the pedals i can afford as "landfill" pedals. lol

    • @jklmopqtstuvwxyz5349
      @jklmopqtstuvwxyz5349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@8466849 ridiculous. I started buying those expensive pedals and I didn’t like them. Totally overpriced when you can get a great pedal for way less. Learned the hard way. You can get amp heads for less.

    • @johnheath970
      @johnheath970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In 1997, I had a Martin D28 and an $800 car. Guess which one I still own :-)

  • @mattflickinger8151
    @mattflickinger8151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Dan’s genius could have been used in many ways. For all we know, world peace. But one day, he heard the siren song of a fuzz face into a Marshal, and this is the benefit we all receive...

    • @Amish_Trivedi
      @Amish_Trivedi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm not 100% sure Dan hasn't found the route to world peace, we just can't see it yet.

    • @Red_Robin_Guitars
      @Red_Robin_Guitars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Amish_Trivedi Too advanced for our feeble brains to comprehend!

    • @vansheen9096
      @vansheen9096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peace sells but who’s buying.

  • @timothycallahan6234
    @timothycallahan6234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It occurs to me that this is why folks like Mick find folks like Dan. You can see Mick's eyes glazing over on the technical stuff, while Dan's light up. But at the end of the day, with them in the same room, Mick can hit '8' on his switcher and know exactly what tone he's going to get, and then they play. It's perfect!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ha! Maybe. I've never cared for how things work, only that they do. Mick here. :0)

  • @piroxide
    @piroxide 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As a technical guy, I'm so proud of Mick and Dan's patience with both each other and themselves. Once you understand that all that technical mumbo-jumbo just makes life easier in the end, it makes the heart/headache worth it.

  • @gregsacks8720
    @gregsacks8720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hahah I guess Chase Bliss is just going to have to do a D&M special edition in tomato-red now

  • @grahamkelly8299
    @grahamkelly8299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I like the way the G3 eliminates all the nonsense you find in other switchers. You could easily make adjustments with the G3 mid gig and i think they have kept the musician in mind while designing the switcher. Very impressive.

    • @justie1220
      @justie1220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, dan has a tendency to keep the musician in mind when developing these things lol.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. It's just a better design than most, if not all other commercially available switchers.

  • @GitShiddy
    @GitShiddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I actually think this episode did a better job explaining midi than the previous midi show. Whether that's because G3 is more obvious to use than G2 regarding this stuff or whether I needed it explained in a way that Mick could understand I don't know. But I am very intrigued to see the TPS pedalboard builds for 2021.

    • @Lorneplumber
      @Lorneplumber 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sam Anderson I thought it s pretty poor explanation of midi if you didn't know how midi works already

  • @stagnatic
    @stagnatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    If MIDI requires Mick to play while wearing reading glasses, I fear it may not be for me.

  • @davedavem
    @davedavem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Love to Tyler Larson, who I'm sure many here follow. He's recovering from COVID after enduring ICU and a respirator.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ah no way! We didn’t know. Bless him, yes all the best to Tyler. Get well soon buddy.

    • @davedavem
      @davedavem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThatPedalShow yeah, check his Instagram. Had me in tears, and put a lot of things in perspective.

  • @El_Snell
    @El_Snell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Midi Mick? As if the world isn't crazy enough at the moment!

    • @Medieval_Arpad_cooks
      @Medieval_Arpad_cooks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Does he get a spandex suit and a cape?

    • @zadtheinhaler
      @zadtheinhaler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Medieval_Arpad_cooks NO CAPES

    • @paulrasmussen1352
      @paulrasmussen1352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Next thing you know he’ll be breaking out the Jem!

    • @luserdroog
      @luserdroog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe this is rather the world firing thrusters to correct itself.

  • @pedalgazer7109
    @pedalgazer7109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "so midi preset one will be designated midi patch zero- or it might be called patch one- there's no standard for this stuff"- great quote that sums up the spirit of today's awesome episode. Thanks to you guys, I bought a Volante. Man- it's awesome. Now, I need a midi loop thingy to switch presets. Just hope preset one isn't labeled zero or I'll be off to rough start....Thanks for an awesome show today guys- and a brave dive into a complex world!

    • @jrr832
      @jrr832 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It gets easier

  • @nyawnyaw12345
    @nyawnyaw12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Hopefully this inspires more people to use MIDI, people assume that it's complicated when it's really not.
    I encouraged everyone to at least try it, it's your greatest arsenal waiting to be discovered
    Happy new year TPS Community.

    • @hoboroadie
      @hoboroadie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully, this does not fool those of you with mental disability into wasting time and money on a product that ultimately will not work for you. If DOS 6.2 Manuals are chronically soporific, it could be a symptom of underlying physical issues, which may preclude adequacy in certain, seemingly mundane skills. YMMV, I recently lernt why I have trouble with some strangely disparate things, and right at the area that the neurological testing indicated, the MRI showed the white matter deficit thing. Since I didn't get this testing done in the Sixties, they are now putting me through additional senility testing crap, but if I am declining from age that is just a bonus. Any way give it a try if you do the pedal board thing. I don't do any switching whatever, but then I hardly do "music" either.

    • @RMosack
      @RMosack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For those afraid of MIDI, the Morningstar products (MC6, MC8, etc.) are eye opening. Their editor makes it so ridiculously easy to program that anybody can do it.

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    "I bought a MIDI!"
    "Righto then. Put it in the cupboard with the others."
    "Yes dear".
    A True Story from My Life.
    Happy New Year to all.

  • @radio5051
    @radio5051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see Mick going down a massive rabbit hole in 2021 and emerging in 2022.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Weirdly this one doesn’t feel like a rabbit hole. It’s more like a winding cut through to a supermassive highway. In a 600hp V8. Ha!

    • @radio5051
      @radio5051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThatPedalShow and I can hear some serious Pink Floyd sounds coming out those CBA pedals. Please excuse me while I go and cut up my bank cards.

  • @paulrasmussen1352
    @paulrasmussen1352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I bought a Tomatotone thinking I could sell all my other overdrives to pay for it. Yeah, right. It’s just a chance for TPS-inspired “better questions.” Like: what would KOT>TTone in KOT mode>Klon sound like? Now I have a Gladio on order. Damn you TPS for opening the rabbit hole. I’ve never had so much gearhead fun.

  • @Docwheezy0402
    @Docwheezy0402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Guys... as somebody, who literally has seen every single show (not only once) and as somebody who is lucky enough to own both the atom and the preamp I can say this was by far the best show, I ´ ve seen on this channel. It was entertaining, it sounded awesome and I learned a hell lot about midi. And besides that, Dan, this was the best advertisement for your phenomenal product. I already love it, still discovering though... keep it up, you guys are my evening illumination. Ask my wife 😂😂😂

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you R. And Mrs R. Happy new year to you!

  • @tonybrooks476
    @tonybrooks476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mrs Brooks has come into the room. I keep trying to get her to see the automatons sliders moving. She said ‘yes darling.’ Gotta love her. She is awesome, just not fussed about guitars and pedals. Although she loves it when I play ambient stuff though.

  • @Gummmibaer
    @Gummmibaer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My First thought after the starting this Video: This reminds me of my dad working on his toy train for hours. He even had the same glasses swag as Mick.

  • @PFDarkside
    @PFDarkside 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’m hearing Stereo Mesa50:50, 2290, expensive pedals that you don’t want beer spilled on, new G3 that does remote well... I’m hearing...
    THAT RACK SHOW!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hahahah!!!!

    • @ralvknights
      @ralvknights 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It better not go down again like it did in the 90s... into Refrigerator Cold Racks.
      Tone is first and the vital energy we all crave. Tone that inspires to play away into bliss.

    • @hoboroadie
      @hoboroadie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh no no, racks are so out of the times, at least until I can get all the kit that I need at the rock-bottom out of style price on Reverb.

    • @PFDarkside
      @PFDarkside 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ralvknights in all seriousness, 19u rack is just a housing, tone comes from the things you put inside it. A lot of the issues from the rack era are being revisited now with everyone’s massive pedalboards and wanting Wet/Dry, Wet/Dry/Wet, MIDI, etc. Dan has addressed some of the issues with his Humdinger, Wetter Box, G2/G3...
      IMO, digital preamps (especially from the early 90’s) will never hold up. A lot of those multi effect boxes had to shuffle processor power and had subpar A/D and D/A converters. However the Mesa rack power amps are high headroom amps with huge dynamics. The 2290 is a classic tone that has more analog componentry than digital. I’m curious to see where Mick goes with it, I imagine he’ll have a stereo reverb as well and maybe a big wet/dry/wet sound? Also, I love the idea of racking pedals away from the front of the stage, if I was a touring musician I’d do that. Since I play at home a few pedals on the floor is good for me. :)

    • @ralvknights
      @ralvknights 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PFDarkside Thank u for sharing. I keep learning from musicians that share ideas, just like you did. Our brains have to dwell with lots of learning steep hills sometimes. I have acquire a taste for pedal searching, testing, still it has serve me well. The practicality issue of playing live and even recording with comfort is an important part of the equation of playing to our full potential. I love digital delays and have learn not to build stereotypes regarding gear. I was merely pointing at the sounds that i heard in the 90s.. i am enjoying the new technologies in sound.. pedals have dynamics in many types of fxs. My ears are happpier than during my early playing years.

  • @dhod900
    @dhod900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Gots me a tomato tone just before Christmas and I so relate to you blokes getting lost in how good it sounds.
    Fidelity, open, dynamic etc. etc. my wife and kids didn’t care the first time I told them. They still don’t care now but every time I play I’ve got this urge to tell someone how good the thing sounds!

    • @alannedelec2714
      @alannedelec2714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 2 real questions are : Do you enjoy yourself more when you grab your guitar? Does it give you the will to play more?
      Forget the idea to share with your wife and childrens. And don't be upset mine don't care neither :)

    • @dhod900
      @dhod900 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alannedelec2714
      Definitely makes me enjoy playing even more. Has been a little bit of a distraction vs. targeted practice as I’ll “find” a tone that is reminiscent of a particular song then get lost for an hour trying to play it... but that’s good time lost I think!

    • @alannedelec2714
      @alannedelec2714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dhod900 Sure. Having different sounds leads you to play things that are different from your usual stuff, and eventually improve yourself has a musician.

  • @KenHunt123
    @KenHunt123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mick! That intro! I thought I was listening to Jeff Beck by the end. Loved it!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ah man, bless you. Jeffers and Landau are always in my brain. I wish they’d come out through my fingers more often. Hahahaha!!!

    • @stevekirby7333
      @stevekirby7333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatPedalShow I was definitely hearing the Landau. Someone's got the Live 2000 in their car. ;-)

  • @Atttuner
    @Atttuner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1982 Roland Jupiter 6 debuts w MIDI 38yrs later Mick Taylor takes his first step into the abyss....taking fashionably late to new heights 😎🤣

    • @garyhoffman1
      @garyhoffman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually, it was the Sequential Circuits Prophet 600 that was the first MIDI synth. Quite limited specs, though.

    • @Atttuner
      @Atttuner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garyhoffman1 interesting

  • @leylandpedals3893
    @leylandpedals3893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can tell Mick likes those pedals from the intro. Fantastic.

    • @markpfeffer7487
      @markpfeffer7487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can tell I liked those pedals from the intro as well. Immaculate tone. Really special

    • @leylandpedals3893
      @leylandpedals3893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markpfeffer7487 good point actually lol

    • @MorleyRobertson1975
      @MorleyRobertson1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At $1000-$1300 CAD a pop, he'd better like them.

    • @leylandpedals3893
      @leylandpedals3893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MorleyRobertson1975 Also very good point.
      Reminds me of when they plugged in dumble style pedals into the Two Rock and the Matchless. "Sounds really good" yeah I hope it does!

  • @trevormccue9585
    @trevormccue9585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mick,
    One of the best intros you all have ever had. Brilliant.

  • @MusicFillsTheQuiet
    @MusicFillsTheQuiet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The liner notes/description text was supremely charming today, Mick! Dan, you're the best, most patient friend to him teaching him this!

  • @onenotesolo256
    @onenotesolo256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wishing everyone who follows TPS, and D&M and team, a safe and peaceful 2021. Thank you for your wonderful content, always. Timing also perfect: I’ll be having a crack at a first little MIDI board in the coming days. If it works then an Atom might be on the cards. PS: three new tees arrived yesterday morning. Always good to receive a parcel from TPS HQ.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for buying stuff! It keeps the lights on here at TPS Towers. :0)
      And good luck with the board. Dan still has mine so I’ve had no chance to go further.... but I will!

  • @samosaarts
    @samosaarts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Some pedals can be turned on and off through MIDI and are true bypass internally, therefore one can free up a loop if the pedal is in front or the last in the chain anyway.

    • @edthejester
      @edthejester 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep! Example: the Digitech Whammy! (v5 at least)

  • @TraneFrancks
    @TraneFrancks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mick, you're absolutely super sillyous. It's one of the many reasons we love you.

  • @DRChevalier
    @DRChevalier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh dear. I have avoided midi for years but have a number of pedals that are midi compliant. I’ve also been reasonably sure I was desirous of a more sophisticated loop switcher than say the excellent Quartermaster family. Now I know that I need a G3 and to invest the time in learning how to make a G3 when I get one control my pedals. First day of 2021 and my bank account is weeping. Happy New Year my friends. Thanks for a very educational episode.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh dear Ross, we are sorry! Ha! Happy new year sir!

  • @eaglerayrob
    @eaglerayrob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MIDI TIP: Many of you may know this but I learned it by experience recently. If you have MIDI pedals with greater than 128 presets (Like many Strymons) include the MIDI CC Bank 0 command in the G3 MIDI commands even for presets 0-127 (the Bank 0 CC command is not necessarily required for preset 0-127 but read on). The reason is, if another G3 preset's MIDI command changes the pedal to Bank 1 or 2 that pedal (now in Bank 1 or 2 mode) will need the Bank 0 command to get back to where you need it to access the 0-127 presets. If you don't have the Bank 0 CC command in place you get to go back and add it later, like I did, after you add your first Bank 1 or 2 cc command on a seperate G3 preset :-) I hope this makes sense, I'm knew to the MIDI stuff.

  • @kentonschroer2347
    @kentonschroer2347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    MIDI just takes pedals and pedalboards to the next step. Goes from 01 Toyota Camry to spaceship!

    • @fossilmatic
      @fossilmatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But I’m only going to the corner shops!

  • @brook543
    @brook543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mick
    Is
    Doing
    It!

  • @bmicona
    @bmicona 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I hope Chase Bliss holds off on a modulation automotone pedal so you guys can enjoy your new Jam collab for a bit ;)

  • @mcmSEA
    @mcmSEA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Digital control of pure analog sound tools is actually quite exciting, from the Chase Bliss pedals to Hook amps and beyond. What times we live in.
    Also a very educational vid as I am a new G3 Atom owner. I am still pondering how to make an expression pedal work as a non-tone sucking volume pedal in a generic way though. Back to the manual :).

  • @greggpbowlz
    @greggpbowlz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went crosseyed for a minute watching this, but it resolved by the end. I kind of get it now.

  • @Lemmysfinger
    @Lemmysfinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video confirmed what i have long known. That is, i have more chance of becoming Pope than even thinking about midi. Still a good watch though guys. Educational as always.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s what I always thought. Mick here. Papacy 0 MIDI 1

    • @Lemmysfinger
      @Lemmysfinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThatPedalShow maybe when i “make it”. Then I’ll just give lots of brown folding stuff to a tech and say “please make my rig do this” :)

  • @jamesemerson4102
    @jamesemerson4102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can literally hear the quality in those pedals. Nice fat overdriven tones and GLORIOUS reverbs and delays. I bet it feels great under the fingers too. There is no harshness or hardness to the sound. Very nice! and a great show, guys.

  • @daleantoniuk3291
    @daleantoniuk3291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stayed away from midi pedals for the same reasons, too many menus and too much tweaking involved.
    But then I purchased a Source Audio Collider, a Strymon Möbius, and a GigRig G2...
    Amazing!!!
    I eliminated 7 pedals on my board and replaced them with 2.
    (Plus my 6 other non-midi drive pedals, comp, pog, wah....)
    I have pre-set for every song in every set.
    It's a game changer.
    My tone has never been better plus no more tap dancing.
    The Möbius took a few minutes to learn.
    The Collider is so easy to use and program.
    I had some issues with the midi programming in relation to communicating with the G2, but the support team at GigRig was amazing, they set up a FaceTime chat and spent 90 minutes with me tweaking and figuring out the issues I was having.
    I'm glad I took a leap of faith, I would never go back from having some midi pedals on my board.
    Cheers
    : )

  • @robstrat86
    @robstrat86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Dan & Mick I finally understand the difference between the loops presets and banks in G3/G3 atom after watching this again

  • @onenotesolo256
    @onenotesolo256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I’m sitting looking at a new board build, and my first proper M1D1 one that I’ve been putting off for ages (but, usefully, accumulating MIDI and TRS cables in readiness!). Signal chain is - and I’m not making this up - Preamp MkII > (Shanks ODS) > (Supro trem) > Future Factory > CXM 1978. In the absence of Atom availability until October, and the G2 not having a screen or being the best for CC, a new Morningstar MC6 has been drafted in, along with a mini Dunlop vol/exp pedal to try and use with pedal settings. Lots of MC6 videos being consumed; lots of frustration; and then a thought: I’m sure M&D have done a couple of vids like this with Mick playing the MIDI newbie. Lo and behold, a video that covers exactly every use of exactly the three pedals that I’m working with. As always, thank heavens for TPS.
    Hope you’re keeping safe.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hooray! Good luck with it, hope this video was of some help! Cheers! Mick here

  • @EDKguy
    @EDKguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You've taken your first step into a much larger world - Old Ben Kenobi

    • @davidburke2132
      @davidburke2132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So are you suggesting that Dan is Midi-Dan Kenobi and Mick is actually the legendary hero “Mick Strat-talker”?!! 😉

    • @Payne2view
      @Payne2view 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      0B1K

    • @Gorphoz
      @Gorphoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      MIDI is a pathway to many abilities some might consider... unnatural

  • @hammyjammies
    @hammyjammies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The tones in the intro made my computer crash! Couldn't handle the schwang

  • @EESATheater
    @EESATheater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with Mick almost completely. I have a few pedals that can take midi, but I love to dial in the sounds and see what I am actually playing. I am about to venture into midi because I recently purchased a Bliss Factory and want to use more presets and sync it with my DD-500 for a few songs. like Mick suggested, it would be great if either of these pedals knobs or switches actually moved with the midi switching. The automatone CBA pedals open up the world of presets and tweekability to recreate studio performances for any live venue and make on the spot adjustments. Happy New Year to all!

  • @kjphoto
    @kjphoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This might be the world's most perfect thumbnail image.

  • @MiniForklift
    @MiniForklift 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never understood MIDI, and for that reason I have never tried to get to grips and understand MIDI. My first memories of it are seeing it on the back of my first keyboard which would have been about 30 years ago. I have zero inclination to use it either so I don't know if this episode is going to interest me or not... but hey if Mick's giving it a go I think I can spare an hour of my time. Plus I've seen every episode of TPS so I have to keep the streak alive! Cheers chaps

  • @DownByTheRiver234
    @DownByTheRiver234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know that this is not the purpose of these videos but I have to say this has completely sold the G3 Atom to me. The User Interface and capabilities seem to be superbly worked out and understandable (I currently use a Boss MS-3 which I can use but this is another level). Thank you. Now I have to work out how to afford it!

  • @KozmykJ
    @KozmykJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    May you all survive and be well enough to enjoy some more future.

  • @jwstout007
    @jwstout007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The remedy to 2021? Not the superhero we wanted, but the superhero we needed. Midi Mick.

  • @someonesusingmyname
    @someonesusingmyname 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching Dan's obvious exercise in patience while remaining kind and friendly is one of the reasons I love TPS so much. I work in tech, and I know how exhausting it can be to try and convey an overly technical message to someone less familiar, no matter how smart they are.
    Also, good show Mick on being open to finally getting onboard the MIDI train.

  • @weschilton
    @weschilton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Between G3 and Chase Bliss I'm just in awe. Really cool stuff and in such a compact package!

  • @aaronshortmusic
    @aaronshortmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been using MIDI a lot lately. It can be incredibly powerful and it can also be a huge time suck. Gotta strike the balance!

  • @justinbalog
    @justinbalog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought me G2 back at the start of lockdown for something to keep me sane. Such a fun tone trip it's been. I love my GigRig. Thanks Gents & Gal and here's to a better year!

  • @Louizalass
    @Louizalass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having spent many hours yesterday adding a second H9 to my G2, I feel that after watching this (timely) edition I have gone from being overwhelmed to simply whelmed! Being one of advancing years I find that too many "bells & whistles" can be off-putting, especially as my memory ain't what it used to be. I understand the way the G2 works, but adding midi control to the H9's is almost a leap into the dark for me. I love the freedom that the G2 brings and I can see the advantages that the G3 has over its predecessor and I must thank you for explaining MIDI in simple terms although I did find myself glazing over at one point.
    I have often thought that many pedals have loads of features on them that can only (realistically) be accessed one sound at a time and are screaming out for MIDI control.

    • @ralvknights
      @ralvknights 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont have midi yet... and already have many pedal combinations for certain songs, ( memory kind of glitches after using fuzz so much) therefore i write down each song pedal fx order of use. It works, it comes down to practice helps one master the pedal combinations per song. Yeah it would be easier just plug and play... but the overtones are it!!

  • @AndyCooper761
    @AndyCooper761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy New Year chaps, Andy here. I went through the MIDI learning stage recently - I made it my Covid goal to rebuild my pedal board, using a MIDI loop switcher. I play in a theatre-level Floyd tribute, so you can imagine the range of pedals involved. All works like a dream - including two MIDI equipped multi effects, and a bunch of gain pedals - with the whole show mapped out on consecutive patches on the loop switcher. Game changer 😁

  • @johnpierson8398
    @johnpierson8398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best sounding pedal board I have ever heard! It's Jan 1, 2021 and the future is here and it's on that pedal board!

  • @ronrumsey3205
    @ronrumsey3205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, my goodness! The TONE from this rig is stunning! Kudos, Mick, for stepping out of your comfort zone to embrace the utility of MIDI (which I have yet to do)! Kudos, Dan, for the real world explanations! Good on you both, sons!

  • @howardbwade
    @howardbwade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great show guys. “You put a plectrum in like this” I love it. Mick I encourage you to take on MIDI. The learning curve can be somewhat steep at first but once you understand the basic concepts it gets easier. It is incredibly useful in many live and studio applications. Being able to tap one switch on your G3 and have it switch your automatone preamp and delay simultaneously to the presets you want and turn on their loops then with another back to your clean tone is a huge benefit at a gig. If you ever venture into synths or even loopers and drum sequencers, MIDI can control them and sync them to a clock. The list goes on. All very useful. Hope you guys had a nice, restful break. Cheers and Happy New Year.

  • @SeanAllocca
    @SeanAllocca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I found you guys a week ago and thank you for filling a void I did not know existed in my life. Great content!!
    EDIT- it was Christmas Day I found you and it was the best gift other than my Buttercream Strat I received.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome Sean! My first Strat was that colour I think. A Japanese 70s reissue. Nice! Cheers!

    • @hoboroadie
      @hoboroadie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for reminding me that I have to go through the TPS archives and look for certain gear and re-watch the episodes. Pretty easy stuff to watch, when one has the time. 😸

  • @brothertruckthestringsoflo8862
    @brothertruckthestringsoflo8862 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back in the day I was so proud to sync my JMP1 to the Quadraverb... Then I sold everything as I literally used only four different sounds...
    Thanks to you guys I bought a 5 channel switcher two years ago. Now I am using it with 8 pedals and a two channel amp. A complete game changer...
    In order not to get lost, I programmed the switcher songwise. One bank is one song. The different sounds in a song follow the order of the switches... No more thinking and I really use my rig to its full extend.
    Like mostly everything in life it is a compromise but an active choice...;-)
    Thank you guys, I owe you a couple of songs!
    Love.
    Klod

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sweet! Sounds great Klod - thank you for the comments and kind words!

  • @kyle_brenn
    @kyle_brenn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I was screwed when my 2021 Bingo card showed up and "Mick Uses MIDI" was on it. But now I'm off to a good start!
    I started using MIDI a couple of years ago and it's super helpful. My switcher isn't stereo, so I put my delay and reverb after the switcher and just use MIDI to turn them on and off in addition to changing presets. It's a good way to save a couple of loops if you have 4 drive pedals instead of a Tomato-Tone.

  • @lightaces
    @lightaces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The MIDI standard does specify starting at 1 for the program changes - but too many manufactures ignore the standard.

  • @periloustemple8290
    @periloustemple8290 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, I was watching this weeks live show. I saw most of it live and was finishing off. It rolled to this video and Mick's opening just slew me. You are a beautiful and very expressive human. We all spend so much time thinking about scales, licks and stunts, but the beauty is the the chords, the harmony and the ability to allow beauty to emerge. You are vvery special at that. I don't know where I'd be w/o you too. It'd be good, I guess, but not as good as it is with you these years of TPS. Life changing.

  • @ludlow555
    @ludlow555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That rig sounds so clear and incredible.

  • @dinger7608
    @dinger7608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love Mick's liner notes on this one.

  • @ericportillo8277
    @ericportillo8277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the star wars style old school flip transitions

  • @piratewhoisquiet
    @piratewhoisquiet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A classic example of a show I would probably never have even thought to ask for, but incredibly happy to have the opportunity to watch now you've made it. And a very good job I think you did do. I also had the "Mick realisation" about halfway through that hey wait a minute, how much can these three pedals do? Everything? Hmm maybe this DIMI stuff is worth it after all. What a good job Big Tomato as done with those automatic pedals, starting with the two effects almost everyone uses and is also the most picky about the most of the time. Really good use case for all those features. When I first saw them I thought "yeah they do cool stuff but it comes with so much other stuff I don't need" but honestly looking at them, I think every bit I thought was flashy gubbins is actually more like yeah well if you want to be able to do this well then it's actually mostly necessary, and then they just went the extra part of well since it has to be there, might as well make it as good as possible to. Respect from me.

  • @TheFeelButton
    @TheFeelButton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You lost me at manual reading Dan! 😂 Remember you're talking to the knob and button crowd here 🤤 Cheers Dan and Mick!!

  • @THEItchybruddah
    @THEItchybruddah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK you Dan. It’s starting to sink in. This vid will be viewed repeatedly.

  • @10sassafras
    @10sassafras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aah... the lure of instant, total sound switching versus the simple joy of having a few three-knob pedals smiling up at you. You’d expect the former would be ideal for complicated gigs but the flexibility of the latter generally wins.

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right at 1:06:53, I sat up straight, because Mick’s “The Chord That Should Be Played With All Reverb Sounds” sounded like the opening arpeggio of Cocteau Twins’ “Serpentskirt”, from the 1996 album, “Milk & Kisses” (their last album), albeit in a different key. I swooned! Happy New Year, lads!

  • @tonybrooks476
    @tonybrooks476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh yes! I’m still alive (thanks to the wonderful people of the NHS) and I’m home with the 65”Oled. Booked the lounge on the family WhatsApp. Let’s go my boyoze.

  • @dejct
    @dejct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A massive massive thank you to Dan + Mick and the TPS team for my Tshirts/Card for Christmas! My gf Katie ordered some Tshirts and stickers for me and I didn't expect to get a little card from you guys as well! Thank you thank you soooo much! You totally made my day and its the best present I ever got! Thank you so much for the amazing year of content and I hope you had an amazing Christmas and I cant wait to see what you guys can achieve in 2021 :) Thank you so much!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one Daniel, and thank you Katie! Happy new year to you both!

  • @MooCow2X2
    @MooCow2X2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2 things.
    One. If chase bliss would make the automatons with knobs, a smaller format (cause knobs) and a slightly less price tag. I’m sold on both.
    Two... damn. Now I really want a G3 for my ventris nemesis volante. And gravitas...
    Guitar gear is expensive for college students!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We’ve been there! It’s very frustrating for sure!

  • @MrNeilfatmonkey
    @MrNeilfatmonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    54:44 “And there was my fuzz.”
    Reminds me so much of the Welshism: “I opened the door and there was my bike; gone!”
    Happy New Year everyone.
    This was a wonderful vid and really makes me lust over tomatoes and atoms, which incidentally should definitely be your prog rock album title.

  • @rosswangler4515
    @rosswangler4515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As usual Gents, wonderful & fundamentally useful show! I have owned a G2 for 6mos now & can say honestly it has changed my sonic approach to playing after 30 years just from how clear & concise everything is. The ease of use & overall functionality is so important for this brain to wrap around. Dan you are a mad Genius & Mick well I also am going to take my midi journey after this episode. Wish me luck! 🤞🏼

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck Ross! Mick here. It’s a revelation when you hear it for the first time. I don’t think I can explain and/or people believe it until they hear it. Good luck with Em-one Dee-one. :0)

  • @dansands6363
    @dansands6363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big props to Simon for making this video so easy to follow along with the pedal cam edits!!!

  • @soundpropellerpatrick113
    @soundpropellerpatrick113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES!!!
    You did it! The loop switcher (and MIDI) show that I asked for a bit ago!
    I definitely understood why it would be a difficult show to do, not for the content (obviously) but because they didn't want it to come off like an advertisement - well BRAVO! it's great, and is another in a long line of excellent educational dives into specific gear, to gain deeper understanding of the functions and potential applications.
    This also serves as a touchstone to share with people, especially if they have questions, or are misinformed about switchers and MIDI, to help nicely expand their gear arsenal.
    You knocked this out of the park, too - condensed with some great info, especially for those just diving in.
    I have had a G2 for a while now, and while it has been a path of discovery, I knew any serious questions, confusion, or conundrums I encountered, would be answered by GigRig's excellent support - but that said, there are things explained in this video, that could a bit more rapidly advance someone's understanding which is great.
    I know many TPS regulars have been hoping for this show. Great Job, guys!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much Patrick! It’s a massive subject so we just tried to go at a pace that made sense to us anyway. Happy new year!

    • @soundpropellerpatrick113
      @soundpropellerpatrick113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatPedalShow Have a relaxing break! Happy New Year!

  • @jamesemerson4102
    @jamesemerson4102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow the flexibility with midi and the automatone along with G3 is truly awesome.

  • @AlbusBand
    @AlbusBand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First off, can we acknowledge how ridiculously unreal these sounds are? Second, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! If this is any indication of what’s ahead this year, at least I know the next twelve months will sound epic. All my love.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy new year Aaron! Yeah man!

  • @tuomastimonen7063
    @tuomastimonen7063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congrats Mick! My brain left the building if not earlier then at 47.00 --> All the best and love! :-)

  • @eaglerayrob
    @eaglerayrob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my BigSky, Timeline, Mobius and TomatoTone all MIDI'd together with the G3 and I'm ready to give this MIDI stuff a try. I'm going to add an expression pedal soon. Time to watch this video again for both tutorial and inspirational benefit. I love when technology supports creativity, so often the two are at odds. Here's to a peaceful melding of my tech and creative brain parts...cheers :-)

  • @chrisegg7936
    @chrisegg7936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope the response to this is overwhelmingly positive because apparently I can watch Dan mess around with little LCD menus and be completely glued to my screen. This was super informative for me and I'm really glad you guys did it!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ha! Awesome! Mick here. We never expected it to be a big show, but it’s an important one. :0)

  • @RMosack
    @RMosack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m only a few minutes in. But if Mick ever truly embraces MIDI, a closer look at the amazingly versatile Jackson Audio Bloom V2 compressor may be in order. It’s a compressor with six modes, one ow which ‘slide mode’ engages an internal second compressor (like the Slide Rig). The other side is a clean boost. And pressing both foot switches engages a three band EQ. All easily controlled by MIDI.

  • @basilandrigsby
    @basilandrigsby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bloody ‘ell guys! Well done!! 👌 I’ve watched it twice now and I think I get at least half of it.

  • @DIYivan04
    @DIYivan04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fuzz always sounds so damn great when I’m not the one using it

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha! I’m the same with Ibanez guitars. Mick here.

  • @MrMystery666
    @MrMystery666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aw Mick. I see your heart sinking with every bit of midi information Dan gives you.

  • @eaglerayrob
    @eaglerayrob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great show! I'm patiently awaiting the artival of my G3, it shipped Dec.10 and is hung-up in a very congested and Covid affected US Postal System. This show provided lots of food for thought as I continue to plan the new board build. Great tone and playing guys. Cheers and Happy New Year!

  • @stevekirby7333
    @stevekirby7333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All that digital magic going on and the simple analog Harmonious Monk was the killer sound. Hope the 2nd batch ships soon.

  • @johnniepage3844
    @johnniepage3844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long video,yes! But full of useful information that has helped me out a great deal!! Thanks!!

  • @terrygrady8413
    @terrygrady8413 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do midi with 3 awesome Boss midi pedals. The combination of the RV500, DD 500 and EQ 200 is amazing. Being able to use the 10 band graphic to eq every effect. It is so simple to program and use with my Atom. Because of midi I only need the Atom as I have saved so many pedals.

  • @maniacalion6170
    @maniacalion6170 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven’t been afraid of midi or switchers, but I hadn’t seen the total benefit for myself until this run through. Sticky stomp box mode sounds perfect for me!! Thanks for all the hard work :)

  • @wescarroll5811
    @wescarroll5811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got a G3 and I would agree that the biggest surprise to me is the tone improvement. First time using any switcher

  • @GazP23
    @GazP23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Massively helpful video, I’m definitely in the Mick camp when it comes to menu diving, so MIDI has always baffled me. But it genuinely looks like one can dip a toe into the MIDI water, just to recall some pedal presets, without too much hassle. Excellent.
    Also, when Mick was playing with the simple combo of a couple of drives in a preset and kicked on the reverb as stomp, then changed preset and the reverb went off I had a facepalm moment. Of course it goes off, you’ve kicked on another preset, so I started considering how presets might need versions with/without certain pedals... then Dan introduced sticky stomp, OH YES!!! I’m definitely in the market for a switcher at some point and aside from the many things a G3 can do, that is a beauty of a feature!
    Great video guys. Happy New Year :-)

  • @RipIPDime
    @RipIPDime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:24
    Mick: "No manuals"
    Mick reviewing the RevivalDrive: "So I've assimilated all knowledge on Earth"

  • @danbode
    @danbode 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. I have hundreds of hours programming scenes in Line 6 gear, but I have never touched midi. Greatly appreciated.

  • @OzziePete1
    @OzziePete1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    04:30 In days gone by guitarists would lug Echoplex tape machines, Space Echo delays and all sorts of other temperamental equipment that isn't stage friendly or robust. All for the sake of 'tone'. So the Chase Bliss gear, presses a guitarist to take it for that tone, it's unavoidable. Hopefully Chase Bliss's engineering is robust enough to accommodate the rigours of stage work. I see it as the 21st Century version of the Search for Tone.

  • @mathiass-l2281
    @mathiass-l2281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, when Dan tells Mick there is a new MIDI standard on its way....😁epic! Thanks guys again for a great show! Happy New Gear, best wishes for the year to come!

  • @xdoctorblindx
    @xdoctorblindx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    For a second there I thought they were doing a "most ridiculously expensive pedalboard build" episode again...

    • @rodd1000
      @rodd1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty much goes for every video they do, far from real world advice. Must have a load of rich kid followers or a ton of droolers.

    • @cubano100pct
      @cubano100pct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is expensive just pedals only is just over $2,500. But they do make me dream of having these pedals.

    • @ralvknights
      @ralvknights 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@rodd1000 In my opinion: all hobbies require some expenses. The level of investment is up to each personal choice. I am not a rich dude, but been acquiring gear since age 18yrs old slowly like a snail can run. Saving bills for gear. TPS is an excelllent show that gives us knowledge way beyond asking a sales dude at any guitar store. God bless them for showcasing and explaining all details about how to improve tone. Its up to each player wether to buy the expensive toys or a similar circuit less expensive toy. All is good, i cant stand old and cheap common circuits.. my ears are looking for new nuances.. its all for my own amusement to compose weird music that brings me joy. Enjoy life and music.

    • @xdoctorblindx
      @xdoctorblindx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rodd1000 I feel as though you've misinterpreted the good-hearted intention of my post. I don't think Dan and Mick create their videos with the intent of exclusively inspiring wealthy folk to follow in their footsteps. I could never afford any of the pedals on their board in this video, but that doesn't mean that I can't find their exploration and friendly banter highly entertaining. They're great guitarist, great friends, and provide great insights. That's enough for me!

    • @kurtisr2339
      @kurtisr2339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xdoctorblindx FWIW, I read your comment as rather jolly in tone, right in line with Dan and Mick. In the same spirit, I wholeheartedly agree. My favorite moments in TPS are when "the look" comes over one or both gents and they mutter something about the conversation they're going to have to have about the inevitable purchase... SO great.

  • @JC-mc2eb
    @JC-mc2eb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This setup sounds so damn good, just ordered the whole lot.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ohmergahd!

    • @JC-mc2eb
      @JC-mc2eb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ThatPedalShow What I lack in talent, I can cover it up with toans!

    • @lanehillard1596
      @lanehillard1596 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JC-mc2eb Welcome to the club!

    • @mattelder9147
      @mattelder9147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JC-mc2eb how’s it going?

  • @jackgreenwood1817
    @jackgreenwood1817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was pretty heavy for a serious New Year's Day hangover, but enjoyable nonetheless :)