I love the sound of walnut. I keep hoping that Martin will add a walnut dread to their standard series. I'm not looking for a bright sparkly tone to cut through the mix. I want a basic fundamental tone.
Is walnut a good tone wood? Without waiting for the answer from the guys above I can confirm yes, it categorically is. Different? Certainly, and that's the thrill, it's another hue to your palette All in all, it depends on the guitar, how it's made, the quality of top, the body shape etc. My Larrivee spruce/walnut dread is simply outstanding, better (and more tonally stable) than all the Martin dreads I used to own. Thanks for sharing walnut's tone to everyone.
I have a 2017 Model America 1, its basically a D-18 with USA woods, it has a Addy top, and Addy forward shifted scalloped bracing, Sycamore back and sides, Walnut fretboard, bridge and headstock plate with cherry neck. only 98 produced and I absolutely love the sound and the tone it produces. If your looking for a new Martin, you should definitely consider these American sourced wood models.
Walnut sounds to me like Maple mixed with Mahogany. It has a great projection of Maple and a hint of the warmth of Mahogany. Rosewood is still much more focused, but Walnut remains its own thing and looks amazing. In other words, we need both.
@@pseudonym4034 Hey, i'm really good with that. I like the newer tonewoods that some of the manufacturers are using, and reclaimed wood, is an interesting addition i think. I like mahogany blues guitars, but my preference is a spruce top. It just gets better though, doesn't it? The manufacture of great instruments, and the amazing ability of these newest young players.
Excellent video guys. First off, I’m a Martin guy, and love their particular feel and sound. I think the rosewood may be just a tad nicer sound but that walnut looks great. However- I owned a Gibson J15 and loved that walnut sound. Sorry I sold it. If Martin EVER puts the walnut in the standard line… count me in. Thank you
I like the sound of this guitar! I hear strong fundamentals in it, kind of "flesh" and "substance" in the sound - as in a good wine. But still very lively in the highs. For me walnut instruments sometimes sound too dry in my ears, but not this one. A great alternative - or addition - to a standard D-28!
I have a Custom Martin from 2010 - Sitka top, Addy bracing, and black walnut b&s - based on the D-18V. I had asked if they would stamp the headblock "D-18VW", as a nod to my car-enthusiast buddies, but nah - it would not have anything like a Martin model number. It's a great all-around guitar. Clean bottom end - a bit more bottom than a D-18 - mids and trebles are clean and forward, somewhat like maple. Really cuts in bluegrass jams. It's also fun to have something a bit different from the usual rosewood or 'hog guitars in the room.
The black walnut is from the Southern US. Walnut is more like mahogany. Other differences from D28 is VTS top and Adirondack bracing. Thanks Quinton and Paul.
I haven't scrolled through everything here, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating something. I think the D41 sounds fuller and deeper, but you really should have gotten a rosewood D28 to compare...but as someone's already said, Quentin, you have the BEST job.
I sense a lot of brightness and stiffness from the Walnut - more warmth from the Rosewood, which is expected. Curious how a standard top would sound against that walnut too.
Some of the best sounding acoustics I have ever played that were not maple were walnut. That said, walnut can sound very different depending on bracing, more so than other woods. A local builder had two walnut guitars, same size and shape and woods but braced differently and what different sounds!
I bought my regular D-28,on sale,a few months ago for substantially less than the asking price. With that in mind $7,000 for walnut,on the same guitar, is a big no sale!
Well I own a Gibson J 15 with Walnut back and sides, spruce top and it sounds great and has better looking walnut. Guess what…it’s Eight years old and it didn’t cost anywhere close to that Martin
I own a 2014 Gibson J-15 walnut. I bought it over a Martin HD-28. To me it is a guitar that sounds like an old 1930s 1945 vintage guitar. And my j15 walnut is highly flamed with a walnut sapwood that looks like angel wings folded on the middle of back. I also installed Kluson locking tuners with keystone knobs and flame pickguard
I'd love a walnut Martin to complement my Sycamore (Model America 1)! Then I would just need a Cherry. And maybe an Osage Orange. And an Oak... Sigh... Wished I ran a music store and could custom order a whole bunch of alternative tonewood guitars
significant tonal differences.. just depends on what you prefer.. Rosewood is richer and warmer but walnut sounds like wood which I love and it's clear as a bell
I owned a walnut Larivee. Liked the sound but the neck didn’t work for me as well as my Martin. Walnut has a little drier tone than Rosewood. Kind of between mahogany and rosewood.
Sometimes I go to online shops and browse slabs, there's one shop right around the corner that does 85-90% walnut slabs/veneers/other boards - it's crazy how cheap you can get it if you shop local.
Also on stage I'd probably use koa or rosewood if I didn't have maple available, but walnut is great for getting the spectral depth of a dread but still getting nicely through a mix. This would work on stage too, for sure, but if I needed to give the wife an excuse for buying yet another guitar...being shiny helps there too. ;-) This would probably just live in the studio for me (I'm clumsy, good odds I'd break it outside) and get played by everyone that set foot in the door, just because that's how those sort of guitars are.
I think the mids are more crisp on the walnut version. I have a Taylor special edition with cedar top and walnut back and sides. I'd compare walnut tone to mahogany. Lowden in Ireland often pairs a cedar top with walnut back and sides. I think this D28 would make a good studio or stage guitar in a band.
Very nice looking guitar. I'm surprised it isn't called a D18 in Walnut. I love my D18 (mahogany), but never liked the loud acrid sounds of the D28 (rosewood). This Walnut guitar sounds like a D18. It is beautiful too...
The walnut sounds a bit more mid-rangey to me. Can never go wrong with rosewood or mahogany, but the walnut has a a sonic niche, and probably sits in a mix as a good strummer
American walnut isn't just for making fine furniture anymore! Virtually any hardwood that woodworkers like to work with is invariably going to make for a fine tonewood. Aspen isn't nearly dense (strong ) enough to make a good tonewood. I lived in Colorado for thirty years and did quite a bit of carpentry. I found aspen to be wonderful for interior paneling...on its own or it works nicely when used alongside drywall.
lols-it's pretty funny how quentin feigns not knowing martin is the originator of the dreadnaught .. . 🤣 and not knowing about walnut's sustainability....funny guy!
Martin dreadnought's original maker ? Yes and no, or no but yes : Ditson's name appears on the very first dreadnoughts (12 frets dreads at the time), but they were made by Martin on order from Ditson... Genuine Martin dreadnoughts appeared quite a few years later.
To me, walnut sounds like a cross between mahogany and rosewood, maybe just a hair closer to mahogany, and in a very good way. Walnut doesn't have that midrange "dip" that rosewood has, wherein it's easier for me to hear walnut versus rosewood, especially over my laptop speakers.
I absolutely HATE the sound of Walnut. I think it sounds horrible in this example, I think it's sounded horrible on all the Gibson G series models. Objectively it's a less dense/softer wood than even Maple. This is why it sounds so terrible. It's over bright and clangy. 1. Walnut: Approximately 610-660 kg/m³ 2. Rosewood: Approximately 800-900 kg/m³ 3. Mahogany: Approximately 450-640 kg/m³ 4. Maple: Approximately 600-750 kg/m³
Actually China make nice guitars already (Eastman, for one). But I agree, except I would argue that a Martin (pre-loved if necessary) is in reach of most players if they are willing to make it an ambition, sacrifice and save up. At least I did, without any regret.
That was a big nothing burger. I like the rosewood tone better. I think it has more overtones and the walnut has a stronger fundamental frequency tone. Walnut might be more similar to mahogany than rosewood.
I went from Rosewood as the forever be-all, to mahogany, then toward others, all based on straight, consistent tone quality. I fell out of love with Martin rosewood dreads, but this one sounded nice. For me the problem with rosewood guitars is that they sometimes sound great, sometimes poor, but the one virtue is they always punch through a mix. Mahogany remains my first choice (including all hog top, back and sides), but never wise to discount others, walnut included.
@@maxwellfan55 I'm not discounting walnut, which seems like a cross between rosewood and mahogany. I think the video could have discussed the tonal qualities of the guitar instead of focusing on the looks.
Hearing the walnut guitar alone I’m sure I would have been pleased to own it, but for me I really didn’t hear a compelling signature sound. Rosewood can deliver depth and shimmer - the best have warmth too. Mahogany can wrap up its strong fundamental notes in woody warmth in exchange for a less complex sound. Koa has a sweetness and a hint of rosewood’s overtones. Beautiful looking as the walnut was, I found the sound did not draw me in. I guess it would be good for mixing into a recording because it lacks an obvious signature of its own and could be processed as required. Great to have the choice, if you have the cash!
Dude Barney Fife with guitar playing man Andy Taylor their he's about to spank you He has got so much patience I can just tell he's 6:21 on the brim of just violence
Marin has made many configurations of Dreads. They have copied many other makers dreads. They are barely making the same dread that they started making. That is why I cannot buy into the Martin PR holiness. They did NOT come up with the first dread design. It was imposed on them buy a buyer.
I love the sound of walnut. I keep hoping that Martin will add a walnut dread to their standard series. I'm not looking for a bright sparkly tone to cut through the mix. I want a basic fundamental tone.
I had a Gibson J-15 in walnut. Sounded great and smelled glorious
Is walnut a good tone wood?
Without waiting for the answer from the guys above I can confirm yes, it categorically is. Different? Certainly, and that's the thrill, it's another hue to your palette All in all, it depends on the guitar, how it's made, the quality of top, the body shape etc.
My Larrivee spruce/walnut dread is simply outstanding, better (and more tonally stable) than all the Martin dreads I used to own.
Thanks for sharing walnut's tone to everyone.
It is
Yes, I'd prefer the standard Rosewood version at half the price. Very nice looking Walnut though, and as always, a great demo.
I have a 2017 Model America 1, its basically a D-18 with USA woods, it has a Addy top, and Addy forward shifted scalloped bracing, Sycamore back and sides, Walnut fretboard, bridge and headstock plate with cherry neck. only 98 produced and I absolutely love the sound and the tone it produces. If your looking for a new Martin, you should definitely consider these American sourced wood models.
WALNUT SOUNDS GREAT
I don't have issues with Walnut, but the rosewood sounded more rounded and richer to me.
Walnut sounds to me like Maple mixed with Mahogany. It has a great projection of Maple and a hint of the warmth of Mahogany.
Rosewood is still much more focused, but Walnut remains its own thing and looks amazing.
In other words, we need both.
@@pseudonym4034 Hey, i'm really good with that. I like the newer tonewoods that some of the manufacturers are using, and reclaimed wood, is an interesting addition i think. I like mahogany blues guitars, but my preference is a spruce top.
It just gets better though, doesn't it?
The manufacture of great instruments, and the amazing ability of these newest young players.
Think I prefer the sound of the walnut also nice playing again Quinten
Quentin, you have the best job, Dude. You know it.
I love my Walnut J45 Studio, I played it next to D18s and D28 and it was what called out to me.
That Martin D-28 walnut sounds a lot like my 2014 Gibson J-15 walnut. Walnut on a guitar to me sounds like clarity
Listening to this makes me really want a Rosewood guitar
Excellent video guys. First off, I’m a Martin guy, and love their particular feel and sound. I think the rosewood may be just a tad nicer sound but that walnut looks great.
However- I owned a Gibson J15 and loved that walnut sound. Sorry I sold it.
If Martin EVER puts the walnut in the standard line… count me in.
Thank you
Sounds amazing .... just great
Walnut is fabulous. I’ve played a black walnut Mossman for 30 years, and about to take delivery on a Bastogne walnut Gallagher.
I like the sound of this guitar! I hear strong fundamentals in it, kind of "flesh" and "substance" in the sound - as in a good wine. But still very lively in the highs. For me walnut instruments sometimes sound too dry in my ears, but not this one. A great alternative - or addition - to a standard D-28!
For sure it's a great tonewood
I own a Gibson J-45 Studio in walnut and love the tone. It is between my mahogany and rosewood guitars.
Slight bump in the mids on the Walnut. but it could be slight difference in overall build.
I have a Custom Martin from 2010 - Sitka top, Addy bracing, and black walnut b&s - based on the D-18V. I had asked if they would stamp the headblock "D-18VW", as a nod to my car-enthusiast buddies, but nah - it would not have anything like a Martin model number. It's a great all-around guitar. Clean bottom end - a bit more bottom than a D-18 - mids and trebles are clean and forward, somewhat like maple. Really cuts in bluegrass jams. It's also fun to have something a bit different from the usual rosewood or 'hog guitars in the room.
Would have been nice to compare the walnut D28 to a rosewood D28 instead. Anyway, sticking to Rosewood.
I've always been a fan of Walnut back and sides. Interesting that it's become so relatively expensive.
More similar than different. As a D-18 player, I liked the directness of the Walnut.
The black walnut is from the Southern US. Walnut is more like mahogany. Other differences from D28 is VTS top and Adirondack bracing. Thanks Quinton and Paul.
It is almost identical in all specs to the Honduran mahogany used in guitars
@MustObeyTheRules i think the walnut has a nicer lower mids sound
I haven't scrolled through everything here, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating something. I think the D41 sounds fuller and deeper, but you really should have gotten a rosewood D28 to compare...but as someone's already said, Quentin, you have the BEST job.
Martin following up on the Gibson J 15
I sense a lot of brightness and stiffness from the Walnut - more warmth from the Rosewood, which is expected. Curious how a standard top would sound against that walnut too.
I'd call that a well-rounded tone.
Love the walnut tone!
Rosewood for me, sound wise.
Rosewood for me.
Walnut sounds more compressed to my ear. Beautiful tone.
I’ve played some walnut guitars and they sound wonderful. This one is in that groove. Are the braces scalloped or not?
I liked the rosewood better. it sounded fuller and more resonant to me.
Rosewood is more mushy. Walnut has punch.
The only Taylor I ever liked the sound of was a walnut dreadnought. Not sure of model number as it was about 15 years ago.
The d41 is mine
Some of the best sounding acoustics I have ever played that were not maple were walnut. That said, walnut can sound very different depending on bracing, more so than other woods. A local builder had two walnut guitars, same size and shape and woods but braced differently and what different sounds!
I bought my regular D-28,on sale,a few months ago for substantially less than the asking price. With that in mind $7,000 for walnut,on the same guitar, is a big no sale!
Well I own a Gibson J 15 with Walnut back and sides, spruce top and it sounds great and has better looking walnut.
Guess what…it’s Eight years old and it didn’t cost anywhere close to that Martin
I own a 2014 Gibson J-15 walnut. I bought it over a Martin HD-28. To me it is a guitar that sounds like an old 1930s 1945 vintage guitar. And my j15 walnut is highly flamed with a walnut sapwood that looks like angel wings folded on the middle of back. I also installed Kluson locking tuners with keystone knobs and flame pickguard
I'd love a walnut Martin to complement my Sycamore (Model America 1)! Then I would just need a Cherry. And maybe an Osage Orange. And an Oak... Sigh... Wished I ran a music store and could custom order a whole bunch of alternative tonewood guitars
Lovely.
Quinton , who is your agent?
I’d love to hear a 000-28EC (rosewood with a v shaped neck) sounds against a walnut version.
significant tonal differences.. just depends on what you prefer.. Rosewood is richer and warmer but walnut sounds like wood which I love and it's clear as a bell
i like maple as a strumming tone wood. e.g J-200, J-185 etc
I owned a walnut Larivee. Liked the sound but the neck didn’t work for me as well as my Martin. Walnut has a little drier tone than Rosewood. Kind of between mahogany and rosewood.
The sitca is nice and bright, but the 2nd one is more well-rounded.
Wow walnut, sounds like you strapped some old barbwire to a trash can lid. Fantastic.
Sometimes I go to online shops and browse slabs, there's one shop right around the corner that does 85-90% walnut slabs/veneers/other boards - it's crazy how cheap you can get it if you shop local.
Also on stage I'd probably use koa or rosewood if I didn't have maple available, but walnut is great for getting the spectral depth of a dread but still getting nicely through a mix. This would work on stage too, for sure, but if I needed to give the wife an excuse for buying yet another guitar...being shiny helps there too. ;-) This would probably just live in the studio for me (I'm clumsy, good odds I'd break it outside) and get played by everyone that set foot in the door, just because that's how those sort of guitars are.
I think the mids are more crisp on the walnut version. I have a Taylor special edition with cedar top and walnut back and sides. I'd compare walnut tone to mahogany. Lowden in Ireland often pairs a cedar top with walnut back and sides. I think this D28 would make a good studio or stage guitar in a band.
That is a beautiful guitar but it is still very expensive!
Very nice looking guitar. I'm surprised it isn't called a D18 in Walnut. I love my D18 (mahogany), but never liked the loud acrid sounds of the D28 (rosewood). This Walnut guitar sounds like a D18. It is beautiful too...
I’m glad mine is rosewood. It sounds better.
walnut is a great tonewood. to my ear, it falls somewhere between rosewood and mahogany and/or it can sound very similar to koa.
The walnut sounds a bit more mid-rangey to me. Can never go wrong with rosewood or mahogany, but the walnut has a a sonic niche, and probably sits in a mix as a good strummer
The rosewood sounds better
American walnut isn't just for making fine furniture anymore! Virtually any hardwood that woodworkers like to work with is invariably going to make for a fine tonewood.
Aspen isn't nearly dense (strong ) enough to make a good tonewood. I lived in Colorado for thirty years and did quite a bit of carpentry. I found aspen to be wonderful for interior paneling...on its own or it works nicely when used alongside drywall.
How can it be called a D-28 when it’s not made from rosewood? That nomenclature flies in the face of Martin tradition.
Not as deep on the bass and winey on the highs nice sound. Walnut is beautiful
nothing beats sapele
Brazilian rosewood, maple or mahogany backs. These are the ones that matter.
I enjoy my Walnut Taylor GTe Blacktop. My ear is drawn to Walnut guitars and the tone wood helps hide my mediocre playing ability lol.
lols-it's pretty funny how quentin feigns not knowing martin is the originator of the dreadnaught .. . 🤣 and not knowing about walnut's sustainability....funny guy!
Martin dreadnought's original maker ? Yes and no, or no but yes : Ditson's name appears on the very first dreadnoughts (12 frets dreads at the time), but they were made by Martin on order from Ditson... Genuine Martin dreadnoughts appeared quite a few years later.
Be thankful they don't make them out of MDF!
Everything after the first one is a copy. Martin was the first to make a Dread, so lots of copies.
Walnut is definitely more sustainable. My aunt has dozens of huge walnut trees on her property. Doesn't have to be imported.
To me, walnut sounds like a cross between mahogany and rosewood, maybe just a hair closer to mahogany, and in a very good way. Walnut doesn't have that midrange "dip" that rosewood has, wherein it's easier for me to hear walnut versus rosewood, especially over my laptop speakers.
The walnut is pretty. The sound is 'thicker' -not as balanced-when compared to rosewood...
I absolutely HATE the sound of Walnut. I think it sounds horrible in this example, I think it's sounded horrible on all the Gibson G series models. Objectively it's a less dense/softer wood than even Maple. This is why it sounds so terrible. It's over bright and clangy.
1. Walnut: Approximately 610-660 kg/m³
2. Rosewood: Approximately 800-900 kg/m³
3. Mahogany: Approximately 450-640 kg/m³
4. Maple: Approximately 600-750 kg/m³
Can I hear what acorn sounds like
They need to just open a factory in China and teach some Luther's how to make it because the average person can't afford a $4000 Martin D28
Eastman comes pretty close for the money.
You can buy Walnut on the back and sides with Engelmann spruce on the top for 900-1000 bucks. At least I did, and yes it was made in China.
Actually China make nice guitars already (Eastman, for one). But I agree, except I would argue that a Martin (pre-loved if necessary) is in reach of most players if they are willing to make it an ambition, sacrifice and save up. At least I did, without any regret.
Yep.. a company saves a lot with a slave labor force don't they ? The pre-civil south had the same economic plan.
Aspen is much to soft for guitar tone wood FYI boys
That was a big nothing burger. I like the rosewood tone better. I think it has more overtones and the walnut has a stronger fundamental frequency tone. Walnut might be more similar to mahogany than rosewood.
True.
I went from Rosewood as the forever be-all, to mahogany, then toward others, all based on straight, consistent tone quality.
I fell out of love with Martin rosewood dreads, but this one sounded nice. For me the problem with rosewood guitars is that they sometimes sound great, sometimes poor, but the one virtue is they always punch through a mix.
Mahogany remains my first choice (including all hog top, back and sides), but never wise to discount others, walnut included.
@@maxwellfan55 I'm not discounting walnut, which seems like a cross between rosewood and mahogany. I think the video could have discussed the tonal qualities of the guitar instead of focusing on the looks.
Hearing the walnut guitar alone I’m sure I would have been pleased to own it, but for me I really didn’t hear a compelling signature sound. Rosewood can deliver depth and shimmer - the best have warmth too. Mahogany can wrap up its strong fundamental notes in woody warmth in exchange for a less complex sound. Koa has a sweetness and a hint of rosewood’s overtones. Beautiful looking as the walnut was, I found the sound did not draw me in. I guess it would be good for mixing into a recording because it lacks an obvious signature of its own and could be processed as required. Great to have the choice, if you have the cash!
Dude Barney Fife with guitar playing man Andy Taylor their he's about to spank you
He has got so much patience I can just tell he's 6:21 on the brim of just violence
Marin has made many configurations of Dreads. They have copied many other makers dreads. They are barely making the same dread that they started making. That is why I cannot buy into the Martin PR holiness. They did NOT come up with the first dread design. It was imposed on them buy a buyer.