Ive done 2,000 miles in my Megane Iconic and it drives like a hot hatch. Reminds me a bit of a A class but drive is sharp and really sporty. Even on 20" rims and a bit heavy the suspension is tuned very well and you'd never no its a fairly heavy EV.
Absolutely and the huge discounts you can get show it. they are absolutely the worst for this - £40k+ for a 308 EV? They’re just trying to catch a few gullible souls whilst giving fleets 20%+ discounts.
They are no worse than VAG. Overpriced and all of them are finding out that nobody has any interest in these vehicles at these pricepoints. The prices need to come down substantially. The Chinese manufacturers are much closer to reality in terms of affordability.
Had my Megane for two months and love it. I went for the Techno+ trim which does without the digital rear view mirror and the somewhat gaudy gold flashes on the front.
I love mine too! Tiny complaints! #1 No Hood Strut? #2 Over Sensitive Lane Assist? #3 Slightly Larger Drive & Reverse Letters? However it makes me smile every time I drive it! Bought it March 2023 and have done 32,000 kilometers happy driving!
Thank you Nic and your two twins for a great review and for having Mike appear even briefly, I would agree that the MG4 isn't suited to those of us in the vertically enhanced category. :)
The wind noise in MG is a manufacturer's fault which I have had from new and MG hasn't done anything about it. Perhaps someone from MG sees it and they finally issue some sort of recall. Another great review by Nicola, my favourite car reviewer. ❤ Next to Thomas and James from Throttle House
So the key selling points for the Jeep are "the buttons work", "it's not that bad", and a "JEEP" logo. Good thing it's more expensive than the other two, so you can show off while you charge (very often due to the small battery). BTW, if the Megane's boot is too deep, they have an optional raised floor with stowage compartments underneath.
Why didn’t they use the MG4 Trophy 64KwH? It has the same range as others and is a lot cheaper. Feels a bit manufactured TBH although do agree with the conclusion that the Megane is the winner at this price.
Ive had my MG4 Trophy Long Range for about 3 months and absolutely love it! I was a bit skeptical of quality and build initially it being an MG and made in China and all but the car has pleasantly surprised me!
Wait until something goes wrong, and it will, there is a reason MG has 73% one star rating on trustpilot, mainly for customer service, i mean waiting months for spare parts and they will find anything they can to not repair under warranty, i had an mg HS did 1063 miles and couldn't cope any longer so counted my losses and got a new Renault Megane e tech, bit like jumping out of a 30 year old lada into a rolls royce
@@keithhumphries2109 I've luckily not had any issues with my MG4 yet but I won't be paying the balloon payment at the end of my term (Feb '26). I think I'll be picking up a very lightly used 74/25/75 plate Megane e-tech at that point -- seems you can get great discounts for ones having done very few miles.
Thanks for the review. Today we did a test drive in the BYD Dolphin (Design) 60kW version, with 204bph and 310 Nm. Everything standard, even panoramic roof with electric sunscreen. We liked it a lot better than the MG4 extended range. But we will wait until we had a ride in the Citroën ë-C3 before we decide. The Citroën is a smaller EV with less range and less features, but he, around €10.000 cheaper, that counts also.
I highly do NOT recommend the e-C3, I've had it 1 years and it's a piece of junk. Every drive annoys me - for example, the on-board computer has neither the drive time nor the consumption since the start of the drive nor since the last charge. You are always driving blind. The infotainment is slow and useless. It doesn't compare with anything modern. I also bought it for the price and honestly? It wasn't worth the savings. Not to mention the cold gate, where in the winter that car charges worse on DC than a 2015 e-Golf. never again Stellantis.
Loved the final dance for the Megan! 😂😂 tried the Megan as well… is definitely a yes, quiet, comfy, sporty at the same time, the stereo is brilliant… I mean.. very well balanced, and not as heavy as I expected!
Lovely presentation, they are all still vehicles that are similar shape, suv/hatchback/crossover, they all do exactly the same thing. Jeep Avenger for me, just for the price point and look
after 3 years of my PHEV 330e I finally converted to full EV, went with Megane top spec, they got mch cheaper in the last year and really good finance deals, i'm half excited actually
By 2030 I forsee many legacy automakers disappearing. Suzuki will be first as they don't have a single BEV in their range so they won't be selling their 22% BEVs In 2024 (ZEV Mandate)
@@RobertDodgeyup there will be struggles, but I think a lot will make it, i do think they are intentionally dragging heels, keeping prices high, lobbying against policy changes. Once there is a bit of good competition suddenly all the German and Japanese brands will start pulling their finger out and start mass producing more basic cars. Or continue going for the premium market and hope for the best. Who knows let's wait and see what happens. At the end of the day would you rather have a VW or a honda or a relatively unknown brand. That game won't work in the long run though as people figure out who makes the best cars, and start trusting the new brands. Hyundai an Kia used to be jokes but now are way up there with the best EVs.
Tried the MG and thought it was really cheap inside, totally a class apart from the Mégane. The rear view mirror is not a gimmick but does take some getting use to. The camera is inside so need to keep the rear window wiped to get the best from it. Also, I leave the Regen in the lowest setting and only use the other settings for cornering or anticipation of stopping.
If we go full electric with the next car, it'll be a Megane, I think Jeep is too small for passengers, boot too small on the MG Nice review again, we'll see how the figures pan out
Great presenting, adds interest and banter to an otherwise boring review. Good job . I vote Mégane I just wish it actually could do 260 on a motorway run
Moved up from an eUP! to the MG4 Extended Range, very happy with my choice, good price to function ratio. Not managed 4 kW/m so far but…… And it does handle quite well.
I test drove the MG4 and it was good and bad. Wind noise and the whistle was present, the whistle apparently is due to the trophy's rear spoiler which also reduces range. Bluetooth connection to my phone was impossible and the screen froze when trying to use the HVAC controls. LKA is awful. Efficiency is not good. Cabin quality is cheap and not too cheerful. Drives well enough and acceleration is good. IMO.
I own a Megane for a little over a year now (Belgium/Full option Techno-trim) and I love the Digital rearview mirror. It takes some time to get used to. But I never ever turn it off. Best car I’ve even owned. ❤
@@RobertDodge unfortunately I have the same problem (MG4 Trophy). Think is the sealing on some rear panel or something, couldn't figured it out yet, neither could the 2 dealerships I brought the car to.
Earlier comment verified by another viewer says it's the small window by the wing mirror that causes the noise. One commenter taped it up and the other had the dealer remove it and reseal it both fixed the issue
I really love the Avenger. It's a great looking supermini. But there are things that annoy me. The ipad cover is a dreadful solution and how it ever made it beyond an idea on a napkin I don't know. I sat in a left hand drive model last year and was thrilled to see a heated windscreen button! But as with so many manufacturers they decided not to offer it in the UK. WHY? I'd spec it on any new car. But the real kicker is Stellantis pricing (Citroen aside) as it's way off. The Avenger is a £30k max vehicle all day long.
Nicola is so much fun. The vehicles are total rubbish (58k pounds for a 9sec fwd cuv Jeep?!?!). I saw Nicola and I had to watch the vid.. The hat was awesome! 🙂
Too many variables. Ideal would be a standardized web tool where you can enter temperature, height difference driving, airconditioning and wheel setup etc etc
@@montanax8127 I’m not sure it needs to be that complicated. The EV database does a fairly good job of estimating real world range under various conditions.
You can get a delivery miles Citroen e c4x for just 20k from stallantis and you. P11d on those are 34k. I think leasing is the way to go on these, then you don’t get hit on the deprecation.
Manos definitely needs an Avenger. I’ve noticed you’re the official supporter of Motability. Please please could you include accessibility of cars. Plus the Jeep Avenger has a £0 advance payment, and a heat pump and a powered boot. So it’s a winner for me, I think, but it would be so good if you could assess how useful cars are for someone with dexterity issues and who needs easy access and stuff. Given that electric cars are cheap on motability and expensive for others, it’s likely that motability customers will make up a large number of first time cheap ev buyers. Love the content, by the way, I’m being entirely selfish. And please give Manos an Avenger. That’s actually the most important issue.
Nobody ever seems to mention how odd it looks. Hated it the first time I saw it and still do. For people who want a cheap EV with all the bells and whistles it works though.
It seems to me that there has been a proliferation of YT videos comparing MG4s of different specs to pretty much everything. And they all find a reason to choose something else. Yet the stand-out reason for getting an MG4 is the price.-the only reason someone might buy the Extended Range over the Standard or "Short" range would be, duh, the longer range! So completely ignoring the range issue is simply bonkers. If you're going to ignore the range issue, then you should be looking at the standard range, which costs one-hell-of-a-lot-less. And that makes the choice a lot more interesting. How much does that perceived quality really cost you? When the difference is 150km (when you don't need it), then the choice may be easy, but 4 grand (or more) is a lot of beer vouchers, especially if driving from a to b is all you really need to do.
@@mrhdebater1607 Yeah, I know. I was just pointing out the basic falacies of so many of these "Comparisons". If they want to demonstrate the validity of buying, for example, an Megane, then they should stop with the BS and just tell us under what circs it might be the better buy. Personally, I am completely uninterested in anything with FWD, no matter how well it drives. Seriously we've been fed a diet of fwd "family" cars for what, 40 years? Now that it is possible to get RWD family cars,
@@davidcolin6519 It's a show designed to draw viewership. If picking a car was that easy then we'd all drive the same car. Many people wouldn't care about your opinion either if FWDs are cheaper than RWDs. I myself was an RWD driver, but now I don't care as long as the car works and doesn't bankrupts me as an owner.
@@mrhdebater1607 "If picking a car was that easy then we'd all drive the same car." Not at all, there aremany reasons why people buy the cars they buy, and range is just one of them. Personally, I think far too many people obsess about EV range, especially people who barely and rarely do more than 100 miles in a week. The vast majority hardly ever do round trips of over 100-150 miles, yet they insist on cars which have a range of more than 250! And how well automation works may be a much more important factor than even having that automation. There really are very few things that are more annoying than overzealous automations. My last car had automatic windscreen wipers that were more of a nuisance than a benefit, just one example. What I find interesting is that MG seem to be dealing with updates far better than most of the legacy (European) brands. FWIU, they have been updating their software very much in line with most cusyomers' needs, hardly something that can be said of most automakers. Having said that, if you start out with a (very) good base point, it is much easier to adjust to customers' needs. Having started out driving when both FWD and RWD were available at all levels of car ownership, and gone on to a time when only FWD was available to all except the "premium" brands, I am personally delighted that RWD is available to all again. But, as you pointed out, that is a personal choice, as is the point of how much a driver enjoys driving. I dare say that, if I lived in the UK, I almost certainly wouldn't get much enjoyment out of driving either. But I don't, and I do.
Agree that the Megane is the winner, but i cannot stand that particular models pre crashed bodge repaired bumper concept. MG lloses for me cause of the interior mirror mount block on the front windscreen, no rear wiper and that annoying rear spoiler ( that causes the whistle). So that leaves the Avenger
Muuuuuuuch more important that one-pedal driving is the blend of regen and mechanical braking on the brake pedal. Under normal circumstances, a car that does regen on the brake pedal well will do that well. I love how the Fiat 500e, for example, does that perfectly. The one-pedal driving drivers are those people who are constantly guessing whether or not they let go of the pedal at the right moment and will then either leave 3-5 meters between their car and the one that has stopped in front of them, or they have to emergency-brake when they misjudged it the other way 'round. People should learn to drive and don't bother with that "feature".
I disagree. Properly implemented, one pedal driving (using only regen) is easy to predict stopping distance and is the most efficient use of energy. I have to make a point of using the brakes on my Model 3 once a week just to keep them clean otherwise they don’t get used.
What are you on about, it took me exactly 15 minutes to figure out one pedal driving in my Model 3, perhaps you are projecting with your learn to drive line?
Both of you are obviously talking about a car that doesn't _have_ regen through the brake pedal. It forces you to use one pedal driving to have regen at all. I'm sure if I was forced to use it, I'd have to tell myself, too, that it's a good system.
@@frykeRegen braking (non-brake pedal) IS a good system. I can judge stopping distance down to a few inches. Absolutely no reason for friction brake wear.
I think you get a lot of bang-for-buck with the MG, but the interior just seems very cheap. This video is solid proof that Stellantis EVs are very overpriced. I agree with all three Nicolas - the Renault is the best of this bunch
I’ve been driving 53 years and I’ve come to the conclusion on British roads , anything that goes faster than 0-60 in 5 seconds, disappears down potholes to fast 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This channel is refreshing that is not another heil Tesla be all end all fanboy channel. The extreme gimmickiness of Tesla and lack of physical controls and false claims on FSD are really turn off for potential EV customers.
Megane for me BUT by God, does it need a panoramic roof! It is so dark and claustrophobic in there but pano roof not even available as an option. Massive shame. Just about all EVs at this price point have them. Ticks every other box for my wants. Still not sure about efficiency though real world.
Or even worse if you want an estate...yer know, with proper practicaliy for carrying a pack of 3 be 2, plasterboard and a bag of board finish from been n queued....and a couple of dogs slishing around in the back at the weekend. Your choice is......an mg5 😖
I would not BUY new... leasing for 1 or 2 years is super cheap. Then if you love it, a 2 year old can be purchased in 2026...!! Personally I would go for the new Scenic EV.
I don't get the Jeep! It's the most expensive, the least powerful, the smallest & it got car of the year last year before it even went on sale!!! Nuts. For our 1st EV we bought a 1 year old low miles '22 plate Kona Ultimate 64kWh. Excellent efficiency, not too big, great price (half of what it was when new) & in 9 months of ownership we haven't used a public charger yet. IMO buying used is the only way owning & running an EV makes sense as second car for local trips & if possible charged at home. For longer trips we use my large ice estate car.
Like the Avenger, similar to’t BYD no dealers near me..! MG has the software settings problem that apparently can’t be fixed coz of crash test ..😂😂😂😂ohh and do you get any feedback about MG4 doing random emergency stops when there’s nowt there 😮 a TH-camr reported this on screen tuther day…and again…software can reduce sensitivity but again it forgets the user setting…already 🙄. Renault looks promising but those tyres wouldn’t last a week around here, we have to have 8” deep moon craters on our roads….Renault show sense with the paddles, assume there’s a model with smaller wheels to suit our roads…! But hey prices need addressing car makers..!
The megane is definitely the winner here. It also wins for reliability and safety tech of the three. Renault make much better EV's than stellantis and the MG4 is a bit too cheap-feeling with questionable reliability thus far
I picked up a dealer demo MG4 so I got all the bonus goodies when I wasn't intending to do that. The 360o cam was good when I was parallel parking. Took my parents to the airport and couldn't fit both cases in the boot and had to put it in the backseat. Also the voice recognition is useless with my accent. Software is slow, especially on start up. But the car parts of the car are great, drives well goes fast. very good range. Sadly the price of the megane is at model 3 levels here, I think its cheaper in europe.
There aren't any 22 plate Megane E-Techs on Autotrader. Not sure there are many in the UK full stop, it was launched in autumn 2022 on a 72 plate. Maybe the odd ex-demonstrator. In any case a 22 plate car is 2 years old now. And virtually every mainstream EV will lose 40% of its value in the first year (1 year old Megane E-Techs start at around £23k). The real electric bargains have a griffin badge though - a 1 year old, low mileage Corsa-e is £14k. £20k below list and near 60% depreciation.
As a jeep avenger owner i feel that all the shortcomings illustrated are real but I don't think the review put enough emphasis on the fact that the jeep is substantially shorter than the other two, which is very important if you need to park it in urban areas. BEV makers seems to love putting 4,6+ m long cars on the market when the average urban car park is 4,3m long if not less.
Ive done 2,000 miles in my Megane Iconic and it drives like a hot hatch. Reminds me a bit of a A class but drive is sharp and really sporty. Even on 20" rims and a bit heavy the suspension is tuned very well and you'd never no its a fairly heavy EV.
Justice for Manos, give it to him Jeep!
It’s possible to turn down the volume of the indicator on the MG.
I agree. I changed the volume level to 2, and really pleasant now.
Stellantis EV pricing is shocking.
Very true and the depreciation shows that. Also, the old Corsa-E is now available new for around £20k, down about £10k.
It's like when Manos bends over the Jeep bonnet.
Absolutely and the huge discounts you can get show it. they are absolutely the worst for this - £40k+ for a 308 EV? They’re just trying to catch a few gullible souls whilst giving fleets 20%+ discounts.
They are no worse than VAG. Overpriced and all of them are finding out that nobody has any interest in these vehicles at these pricepoints. The prices need to come down substantially. The Chinese manufacturers are much closer to reality in terms of affordability.
It’s intentional - they do it, point to low sales and then justify still making PHEVs for as long as possible
Had my Megane for two months and love it. I went for the Techno+ trim which does without the digital rear view mirror and the somewhat gaudy gold flashes on the front.
Love having the Gold and digi mirror in the dearer model
Good decision great car
When you get used to these golden blades techno versions look naked :))))
I went Techno+ specifically to lose the Golden blades. Solid choice, imo.
I have a Megane and i'm delighted with it
Same here 😊
Same. I’ve got a flame red techno+ and it still makes me smile nearly a year later.
Hi all what is the real world range off the renault all year round
I love mine too! Tiny complaints! #1 No Hood Strut? #2 Over Sensitive Lane Assist? #3 Slightly Larger Drive & Reverse Letters? However it makes me smile every time I drive it! Bought it March 2023 and have done 32,000 kilometers happy driving!
Thank you Nic and your two twins for a great review and for having Mike appear even briefly, I would agree that the MG4 isn't suited to those of us in the vertically enhanced category. :)
New slogan for the Jeep Avenger: "It's not that bad"
The wind noise in MG is a manufacturer's fault which I have had from new and MG hasn't done anything about it. Perhaps someone from MG sees it and they finally issue some sort of recall. Another great review by Nicola, my favourite car reviewer. ❤ Next to Thomas and James from Throttle House
I've never noticed it in mine - i'll have to listen now!
No issue with mine....
Mine neither and I have the cheap SE standard range
Someone's said it's caused by the Trophy rear spoiler no wonder I've not heard it then as the SE doesn't have that.
@@RobertDodge Mine's a Trophy - can't hear any wind noise.....
Nicola, you're utterly brilliant - wonderfully entertaining - and so informative!
So the key selling points for the Jeep are "the buttons work", "it's not that bad", and a "JEEP" logo. Good thing it's more expensive than the other two, so you can show off while you charge (very often due to the small battery).
BTW, if the Megane's boot is too deep, they have an optional raised floor with stowage compartments underneath.
Great video thanks. A table to compare each cars stats side by side would be nice.
Why didn’t they use the MG4 Trophy 64KwH? It has the same range as others and is a lot cheaper. Feels a bit manufactured TBH although do agree with the conclusion that the Megane is the winner at this price.
My thoughts exactly they just picked it to match the same price point.
This kind of video would be substantial if it also had a long drive test resulting in the real world numbers for consumption and hence range.
Bring on the Renault 5 road test 👍
And 4
Ive had my MG4 Trophy Long Range for about 3 months and absolutely love it!
I was a bit skeptical of quality and build initially it being an MG and made in China and all but the car has pleasantly surprised me!
Wait until something goes wrong, and it will, there is a reason MG has 73% one star rating on trustpilot, mainly for customer service, i mean waiting months for spare parts and they will find anything they can to not repair under warranty, i had an mg HS did 1063 miles and couldn't cope any longer so counted my losses and got a new Renault Megane e tech, bit like jumping out of a 30 year old lada into a rolls royce
@@keithhumphries2109 I've luckily not had any issues with my MG4 yet but I won't be paying the balloon payment at the end of my term (Feb '26). I think I'll be picking up a very lightly used 74/25/75 plate Megane e-tech at that point -- seems you can get great discounts for ones having done very few miles.
This video was one of the most fun comparing car reviews! Thank you!
Avenger looks great and definitely my choice out of these 3 , seen one yesterday .
Avenger is beautiful
@@tamarafield5074 Will be a great buy in a couple of years .
It is but stupidly expensive!
You should have included the Volvo EX30.
They have a serious software issue currently (as in they don't have working software) all preorders have been delayed until the future
Lots of EX30's has been delivered. I have one and apart from a few software niggles it is a great car.
Thanks for the review. Today we did a test drive in the BYD Dolphin (Design) 60kW version, with 204bph and 310 Nm.
Everything standard, even panoramic roof with electric sunscreen.
We liked it a lot better than the MG4 extended range. But we will wait until we had a ride in the Citroën ë-C3 before we decide.
The Citroën is a smaller EV with less range and less features, but he, around €10.000 cheaper, that counts also.
I highly do NOT recommend the e-C3, I've had it 1 years and it's a piece of junk. Every drive annoys me - for example, the on-board computer has neither the drive time nor the consumption since the start of the drive nor since the last charge. You are always driving blind. The infotainment is slow and useless. It doesn't compare with anything modern. I also bought it for the price and honestly? It wasn't worth the savings. Not to mention the cold gate, where in the winter that car charges worse on DC than a 2015 e-Golf. never again Stellantis.
Loved the final dance for the Megan! 😂😂 tried the Megan as well… is definitely a yes, quiet, comfy, sporty at the same time, the stereo is brilliant… I mean.. very well balanced, and not as heavy as I expected!
Lovely presentation, they are all still vehicles that are similar shape, suv/hatchback/crossover, they all do exactly the same thing. Jeep Avenger for me, just for the price point and look
Great video, all good things come in threes. Glad you agree with yourself.
after 3 years of my PHEV 330e I finally converted to full EV, went with Megane top spec, they got mch cheaper in the last year and really good finance deals, i'm half excited actually
Got to say, Nicola really has got to be the best car presenter across TH-cam and TV. She’s just a joy to watch, and damn knowledgable about cars.
£38k starting for the Jeep... legacy companies deserve to get the pounding on the horizon from the imports from China (if they get through)...
(ditto for the other prices too)
By 2030 I forsee many legacy automakers disappearing. Suzuki will be first as they don't have a single BEV in their range so they won't be selling their 22% BEVs In 2024 (ZEV Mandate)
@@RobertDodgeyup there will be struggles, but I think a lot will make it, i do think they are intentionally dragging heels, keeping prices high, lobbying against policy changes. Once there is a bit of good competition suddenly all the German and Japanese brands will start pulling their finger out and start mass producing more basic cars. Or continue going for the premium market and hope for the best. Who knows let's wait and see what happens. At the end of the day would you rather have a VW or a honda or a relatively unknown brand. That game won't work in the long run though as people figure out who makes the best cars, and start trusting the new brands. Hyundai an Kia used to be jokes but now are way up there with the best EVs.
Great review Nic 👍🏼
Nicola is a win all around. Love this review ! Well done on this video, especially the French version of Nicola;)
Well done Nicola - fun and informative!
This felt a bit advertised since the MG4 had lots of upgrades which made it more expensive. MG4 62kwh is actually a lot cheaper that these.
Tried the MG and thought it was really cheap inside, totally a class apart from the Mégane. The rear view mirror is not a gimmick but does take some getting use to. The camera is inside so need to keep the rear window wiped to get the best from it.
Also, I leave the Regen in the lowest setting and only use the other settings for cornering or anticipation of stopping.
If we go full electric with the next car, it'll be a Megane, I think
Jeep is too small for passengers, boot too small on the MG
Nice review again, we'll see how the figures pan out
Man, that was one of the trippiest videos I've watched in a while. Lol
Does one pedal driving really save energy? Gentle breaking also recoups energy.
Great presenting, adds interest and banter to an otherwise boring review. Good job . I vote Mégane I just wish it actually could do 260 on a motorway run
Moved up from an eUP! to the MG4 Extended Range, very happy with my choice, good price to function ratio. Not managed 4 kW/m so far but…… And it does handle quite well.
I have an MG4 Trophy standard range, but my absolute favourite EV has to be the Renault Megane 😁
The Trophy is Long range or Extended range no standard range
I test drove the MG4 and it was good and bad.
Wind noise and the whistle was present, the whistle apparently is due to the trophy's rear spoiler which also reduces range.
Bluetooth connection to my phone was impossible and the screen froze when trying to use the HVAC controls.
LKA is awful.
Efficiency is not good.
Cabin quality is cheap and not too cheerful.
Drives well enough and acceleration is good.
IMO.
I don't understand why all the Chinese cars have so buggy software. Zeekr, Volvo, Xpeng, MG, Smart, BYD and the rest.
I own a Megane for a little over a year now (Belgium/Full option Techno-trim) and I love the Digital rearview mirror. It takes some time to get used to. But I never ever turn it off. Best car I’ve even owned. ❤
That annoying shelf should be optional though.
@@taomahNEGEV I never bump into that. In the EU-version with the 12" screens the 'chargingshelf' sits lower.
What is that wind noise in that MG?! Got a Trophy LR as a company car 2 months ago which is externally the same and never had that problem!
same here, very quiet so has to be with the car there
Yes I agree the noise was specific to the MG4 LR she drove
@@RobertDodge unfortunately I have the same problem (MG4 Trophy). Think is the sealing on some rear panel or something, couldn't figured it out yet, neither could the 2 dealerships I brought the car to.
Earlier comment verified by another viewer says it's the small window by the wing mirror that causes the noise. One commenter taped it up and the other had the dealer remove it and reseal it both fixed the issue
Don’t know if you tried the Senic before the Megan, if so which would you choose Megan of Senic with your own money
You can turn down the indicator noise. 👍
I really love the Avenger. It's a great looking supermini. But there are things that annoy me. The ipad cover is a dreadful solution and how it ever made it beyond an idea on a napkin I don't know.
I sat in a left hand drive model last year and was thrilled to see a heated windscreen button! But as with so many manufacturers they decided not to offer it in the UK. WHY? I'd spec it on any new car.
But the real kicker is Stellantis pricing (Citroen aside) as it's way off. The Avenger is a £30k max vehicle all day long.
I love my Avenger (petrol) Its such a fun ride.
@@tamarafield5074Hillman?😂
The MG4 has an option for an AWD, even though it's just in drive it's more useful in winter than those 2 cars here in the north.
I like the jeep nice car think about it you can't do more than 70mh on our roads so speed doesn't matter it's a jeep nota race car brilliant suv.
Nicola is so much fun. The vehicles are total rubbish (58k pounds for a 9sec fwd cuv Jeep?!?!). I saw Nicola and I had to watch the vid..
The hat was awesome! 🙂
She does look rather tasty in that cowboy hat I have to say
10:05 isn't usb ''C'' its usb ''A'' standard usb port! at 2.amps
Good review. I wish the WLTP range estimates could be thrown out of the window and a real world range be quoted instead.
Too many variables. Ideal would be a standardized web tool where you can enter temperature, height difference driving, airconditioning and wheel setup etc etc
@@montanax8127 I’m not sure it needs to be that complicated. The EV database does a fairly good job of estimating real world range under various conditions.
All range estimates are wrong, even real world range as we all drive differently etc.
WLTP gives a standardised comparison.
You can get a delivery miles Citroen e c4x for just 20k from stallantis and you. P11d on those are 34k. I think leasing is the way to go on these, then you don’t get hit on the deprecation.
Yep, if ladies are cold, can make editing difficult...
I like this compare by one person, and fun too. Oh and informative 😊
00:39 - I know what I’m thinking - what on earth are those beige bits on the front and back of the Megane?
Is says new Megane, is this true? what are the updates from the one that's been around for a few years. Otherwise, excellent showdown, thanks Nicola
Think it's the inclusion of the heat pump. Techno spec is now named "Techno+ Optimum Charge" or similar.
@@VeitchyVeitch thanks
Manos definitely needs an Avenger.
I’ve noticed you’re the official supporter of Motability. Please please could you include accessibility of cars. Plus the Jeep Avenger has a £0 advance payment, and a heat pump and a powered boot. So it’s a winner for me, I think, but it would be so good if you could assess how useful cars are for someone with dexterity issues and who needs easy access and stuff. Given that electric cars are cheap on motability and expensive for others, it’s likely that motability customers will make up a large number of first time cheap ev buyers.
Love the content, by the way, I’m being entirely selfish.
And please give Manos an Avenger. That’s actually the most important issue.
Nicola, you are so clever! I love your reviews. Sadly, none of these EVs are on this side of the pond. Oh… and by the way… your glasses become you!
MG4 is the weirdest, ugliest car I have ever seen. You would have to be very desperate to buy it.
Nobody ever seems to mention how odd it looks. Hated it the first time I saw it and still do. For people who want a cheap EV with all the bells and whistles it works though.
agree 100%, wouldn't take it for free...
Why can’t anyone reviewing the MG4 push the turn on radio button on the steering wheel? Driving me nuts
So what's the thing with metric data written on screen?
It seems to me that there has been a proliferation of YT videos comparing MG4s of different specs to pretty much everything.
And they all find a reason to choose something else. Yet the stand-out reason for getting an MG4 is the price.-the only reason someone might buy the Extended Range over the Standard or "Short" range would be, duh, the longer range! So completely ignoring the range issue is simply bonkers. If you're going to ignore the range issue, then you should be looking at the standard range, which costs one-hell-of-a-lot-less.
And that makes the choice a lot more interesting. How much does that perceived quality really cost you? When the difference is 150km (when you don't need it), then the choice may be easy, but 4 grand (or more) is a lot of beer vouchers, especially if driving from a to b is all you really need to do.
It's because MG4 came out first and became an instant hit. Also, people want the best value for money.
@@mrhdebater1607 Yeah, I know. I was just pointing out the basic falacies of so many of these "Comparisons".
If they want to demonstrate the validity of buying, for example, an Megane, then they should stop with the BS and just tell us under what circs it might be the better buy.
Personally, I am completely uninterested in anything with FWD, no matter how well it drives.
Seriously we've been fed a diet of fwd "family" cars for what, 40 years? Now that it is possible to get RWD family cars,
@@davidcolin6519 It's a show designed to draw viewership. If picking a car was that easy then we'd all drive the same car. Many people wouldn't care about your opinion either if FWDs are cheaper than RWDs. I myself was an RWD driver, but now I don't care as long as the car works and doesn't bankrupts me as an owner.
@@mrhdebater1607 "If picking a car was that easy then we'd all drive the same car."
Not at all, there aremany reasons why people buy the cars they buy, and range is just one of them. Personally, I think far too many people obsess about EV range, especially people who barely and rarely do more than 100 miles in a week. The vast majority hardly ever do round trips of over 100-150 miles, yet they insist on cars which have a range of more than 250!
And how well automation works may be a much more important factor than even having that automation. There really are very few things that are more annoying than overzealous automations. My last car had automatic windscreen wipers that were more of a nuisance than a benefit, just one example.
What I find interesting is that MG seem to be dealing with updates far better than most of the legacy (European) brands. FWIU, they have been updating their software very much in line with most cusyomers' needs, hardly something that can be said of most automakers. Having said that, if you start out with a (very) good base point, it is much easier to adjust to customers' needs.
Having started out driving when both FWD and RWD were available at all levels of car ownership, and gone on to a time when only FWD was available to all except the "premium" brands, I am personally delighted that RWD is available to all again. But, as you pointed out, that is a personal choice, as is the point of how much a driver enjoys driving. I dare say that, if I lived in the UK, I almost certainly wouldn't get much enjoyment out of driving either. But I don't, and I do.
Nico as three-dimensional
😂😂 Great video Nico. The Renault is the winner 👍
Agree that the Megane is the winner, but i cannot stand that particular models pre crashed bodge repaired bumper concept. MG lloses for me cause of the interior mirror mount block on the front windscreen, no rear wiper and that annoying rear spoiler ( that causes the whistle).
So that leaves the Avenger
in NZ they have a rear wiper and you do not have to have a spoiler model on the mid range.
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf thats perfect
So real buttons cost 10000 extra!
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Really like Jeep but its just way too expensive for EV that it is, for that price should have 4WD and more power 😊
Nic= consistent high quality content. Thanks.
woah woah woah, you cant jumpscare us with a glasses nicola at the beginning of the video, I wasn't ready
I ran out of contact lenses🤣
Muuuuuuuch more important that one-pedal driving is the blend of regen and mechanical braking on the brake pedal. Under normal circumstances, a car that does regen on the brake pedal well will do that well. I love how the Fiat 500e, for example, does that perfectly. The one-pedal driving drivers are those people who are constantly guessing whether or not they let go of the pedal at the right moment and will then either leave 3-5 meters between their car and the one that has stopped in front of them, or they have to emergency-brake when they misjudged it the other way 'round. People should learn to drive and don't bother with that "feature".
I disagree. Properly implemented, one pedal driving (using only regen) is easy to predict stopping distance and is the most efficient use of energy. I have to make a point of using the brakes on my Model 3 once a week just to keep them clean otherwise they don’t get used.
What are you on about, it took me exactly 15 minutes to figure out one pedal driving in my Model 3, perhaps you are projecting with your learn to drive line?
Nah, I'm just observing people more and more doing these things, and misjudging the regen is probably the best explanation for it. @@badbasic
Both of you are obviously talking about a car that doesn't _have_ regen through the brake pedal. It forces you to use one pedal driving to have regen at all. I'm sure if I was forced to use it, I'd have to tell myself, too, that it's a good system.
@@frykeRegen braking (non-brake pedal) IS a good system. I can judge stopping distance down to a few inches. Absolutely no reason for friction brake wear.
Shame the Uk doesn’t get the bigger screen compared to Europe
I think you get a lot of bang-for-buck with the MG, but the interior just seems very cheap. This video is solid proof that Stellantis EVs are very overpriced. I agree with all three Nicolas - the Renault is the best of this bunch
This review just proves that Jeep has moved away from everything that made jeep an icon of the 60's-90's, and turned into a collage girl's car.
Why do Jeep bother making cars for you UK.
Outside of cities the UK get rural pretty damn fast. plus POTHOLES... pretty sure you could hide a MG4 in some of the potholes round here.
@@charlesuk5358Yeah but that jeep isn't really a jeep. It's no better off road than the others.
Not wanting to be a stick up for detail but the MG has a USB-not-C on the back 😊
I’ve been driving 53 years and I’ve come to the conclusion on British roads , anything that goes faster than 0-60 in 5 seconds, disappears down potholes to fast 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This channel is refreshing that is not another heil Tesla be all end all fanboy channel. The extreme gimmickiness of Tesla and lack of physical controls and false claims on FSD are really turn off for potential EV customers.
I watched XIAOMI SU7 today, that is chocking 101kWh...
The answer to "What's better than having Nicola present a car video?" - Having 3 Nicolas(Nicoli?) present a car video.
It is remarkable how stellantis is not capable of making any interior joint to have fit. Unbelievable what crap company that is
Megane for me BUT by God, does it need a panoramic roof! It is so dark and claustrophobic in there but pano roof not even available as an option. Massive shame. Just about all EVs at this price point have them. Ticks every other box for my wants. Still not sure about efficiency though real world.
I believe there is a Austral BEV on the horizon
Unfortunately if mike millions of us we prefer a Hatchback there is virtually NO EV choice. Less than 10 available & less than 5 that are practical 😢
Or even worse if you want an estate...yer know, with proper practicaliy for carrying a pack of 3 be 2, plasterboard and a bag of board finish from been n queued....and a couple of dogs slishing around in the back at the weekend.
Your choice is......an mg5 😖
All the vehicles shown here are hatchbacks.
Megane: Exceeding 78 Inches, (2 Meters) Is that a bit wide?
I would not BUY new... leasing for 1 or 2 years is super cheap. Then if you love it, a 2 year old can be purchased in 2026...!!
Personally I would go for the new Scenic EV.
Nicola in triplicate? #heaven
Jeep is nice but with a terrible prices! They are crazy.. and Avenger without SUNROOF is not the same!!.. Come on Stellantis ...you can do better....
I don't get the Jeep! It's the most expensive, the least powerful, the smallest & it got car of the year last year before it even went on sale!!! Nuts.
For our 1st EV we bought a 1 year old low miles '22 plate Kona Ultimate 64kWh. Excellent efficiency, not too big, great price (half of what it was when new) & in 9 months of ownership we haven't used a public charger yet.
IMO buying used is the only way owning & running an EV makes sense as second car for local trips & if possible charged at home. For longer trips we use my large ice estate car.
Like the Avenger, similar to’t BYD no dealers near me..! MG has the software settings problem that apparently can’t be fixed coz of crash test ..😂😂😂😂ohh and do you get any feedback about MG4 doing random emergency stops when there’s nowt there 😮 a TH-camr reported this on screen tuther day…and again…software can reduce sensitivity but again it forgets the user setting…already 🙄. Renault looks promising but those tyres wouldn’t last a week around here, we have to have 8” deep moon craters on our roads….Renault show sense with the paddles, assume there’s a model with smaller wheels to suit our roads…! But hey prices need addressing car makers..!
we tax payers pay for infrastructure and these green companies rip us off with high prices
Is the world ready for 3 Nicolas? 😮
One Nicola is fun and enjoyable, 3 of them is terrifying 😂😂
The megane is definitely the winner here. It also wins for reliability and safety tech of the three. Renault make much better EV's than stellantis and the MG4 is a bit too cheap-feeling with questionable reliability thus far
Before even watching this, I think I would go for the Megane... Let's see if I have the same opinion at the end.
Yep, I still would go for Renault.
Can we have Max and Checo reviewing a car please? Petition to make it happen!
Reliability is on my mind for these 3
Jeep avg B segment - Megane etech C segment
MG4 whistle?.... were all the windows closed? I don't have this issue on my xpower... (done 11k in 6 months so far... no issues) 👍 😂
I picked up a dealer demo MG4 so I got all the bonus goodies when I wasn't intending to do that. The 360o cam was good when I was parallel parking. Took my parents to the airport and couldn't fit both cases in the boot and had to put it in the backseat. Also the voice recognition is useless with my accent. Software is slow, especially on start up. But the car parts of the car are great, drives well goes fast. very good range.
Sadly the price of the megane is at model 3 levels here, I think its cheaper in europe.
What is the problem of plastics? If its durable, dont make noise, dont see the problem, they are not Bentleys.
I looked at my car doors today, I have owned it for 18months and never looked or took any notice before. Now look what you have done.😃
I hope you got paid 3 x times you usual rate. Class production 👌👍
Or... Buy the '22 plate Megane, that's done 50 miles, which is on Autotrader for £20k! A £15 drop in price in less than a year - staggering.
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There aren't any 22 plate Megane E-Techs on Autotrader. Not sure there are many in the UK full stop, it was launched in autumn 2022 on a 72 plate. Maybe the odd ex-demonstrator.
In any case a 22 plate car is 2 years old now. And virtually every mainstream EV will lose 40% of its value in the first year (1 year old Megane E-Techs start at around £23k).
The real electric bargains have a griffin badge though - a 1 year old, low mileage Corsa-e is £14k. £20k below list and near 60% depreciation.
More comedy pricing from Stella this - the list on the Jeep is at least £5k too much - possibly even worse
I have such a school boy crush on Nicola. It’s just silly.
As a jeep avenger owner i feel that all the shortcomings illustrated are real but I don't think the review put enough emphasis on the fact that the jeep is substantially shorter than the other two, which is very important if you need to park it in urban areas. BEV makers seems to love putting 4,6+ m long cars on the market when the average urban car park is 4,3m long if not less.