it’s coming!! these videos are taking longer and longer to make because i have plenty of things im working on. in the rest of month alone i have at least 2 more videos coming and it’s not even half way over so please be patient! i’m trying hard to get it out before april.
Can we talk about the most overlooked but evil part of the dark curse? All the middle-school aged kids from the enchanted forest had to repeat middle-school for TWENTY-EIGHT YEARS. That sounds like a literal hell.
but then when you think about henrys pov, he, being the only person not cursed, is the only person in town growing up. hes the only kid going up to an older class. none of the other kids growing up. i feel like it couldve been a psychological horror when you think about it
It does suck but they were all in like a trancelike stupor. I don’t think they really experienced it in a distinct way, more like a dream- and when you wake up from a dream, time doesn’t really matter in the same way, no matter how much or little time happened in the dream or waking.
And then it gets even worse if you add in someone who is arguably his step-grandfather. Ah the good old days when the family tree didn't need hours of explanations about how by some miracle, there's no incest.
@@KaishaLouise Wait. do you mean the one who married his paternal grandma after she left her husband (trying really hard to be vague about this for people who haven't seen the show and don't know yet lol)?
i think when i get to s7 it will be the most confusing. as a 10 year vet of this show the first seasons are just not as confusing to me anymore like i just act as if it’s normal 😭😭😭
Oh man it is so cathartic hearing someone ELSE explain the Charming family tree. If it wasn't for Henry that family tree wouldn't be nearly as confusing
I honestly feel like that the side-stories added much for the worldbuilding in season 1 and really added to that 'crossover' vibe. Cinderella, Hansel & Gretel, Jiminy Cricket. It was fun seeing all those stories mixed and mashed together. It annoyed me in later seasons when each half season would be themed after a specific tale (Frozen, Camelot, Aladdin etc)
I feel like the arcs added more plot-wise and sometimes character dynamic-wise, but many just felt bloated and underdeveloped their characters. It meant we didn’t have as solid a cast as we did during the first two seasons, when we reliably saw the same faces.
Accurate considering its more like how television used to be i can watch pretty.much any episodes without know whats going on or missing anything as long as you knew the basic story
I dont think that episodes that focused on "non-important" side characters were a waist of time. They didnt further the plot, but they helped with the world building, which is just as important as the plotline imo. Those stories thouaght us so many things about this world: differnt princes of different fariytales came from different kingdoms, Rumpule made deals with people all across those kingdoms, we learn of how faries are assinged as gardians for different people, we learn that faries have their own lifes and conflicts and they wanted love too, we learn that dwarves arent just "the 7 dwarves", there is a whole sociaty of them and they work in a symbiotic relationship with faries. This information might not further the plot, but it flashs out the world, it makes us care about that world. I actually love the double identiy aspect of many of the chacaters, it makes the world feel very interconected.
I think The Cinderella and Jiminny episodes serve many purposes. They demonstrate that Regina is slowly losing the power and control that she desperately clings onto and that Emma is symbolically or literally weakening the curse by being present. The Cinderella one also introduces the relationship between Emma and Mr. Gold, and develops the moral and heroic side of Emma.
you are growing so confident and i love listening to the way you eloquently but still humorously tackle media. i think i saw a community post about comparisons to mike’s mic and i just want to say, while i love his style, that yours has grown into its own thing and it’s great. you have very clear investment in the stories you’re analyzing and you take them seriously in a way that still feels lighthearted. but it is clear that you think very hard about these pieces of media and that it’s not entirely just a comedy thing anymore. if you are inching in the direction of “video essay,” instead of “recap” (although those terms are relative and can coexist), i am totally along for the ride. regardless of direction, i think you have the intelligence, public speaking skills, unique charisma, passion, and media literacy to only keep improving.
@@cainvarnerearlier on you definitely had more of his “persona” in terms of turns of phrase and accent (which isn’t bad at all, that’s what happens when you’re immersed in a genre, and also like. a lot of it is gay culture sometimes having shared dialects), but i have noticed that you seem to be a lot more straightforward and you’re developing your own speaking habits and turns of phrase that make your more recent videos unique. it feels more natural, like a conversation in a media studies class or with friends, rather than a performance. neither thing is better than the other, but if that more down-to-earth composure is what’s most natural to you, i’m glad you’re allowing it to shine (and it does!)
I am SO impressed by the dates you have in the corner of the screen. most of the time I spend watching this show is me trying to date each episode in the timeline, and you having done it seemingly pretty accurately here is very satisfying to me
there’s other sources online that roughly estimate the timeline so i used those to like check my work and most of the time i was correct lol. i did the same with the 100 and AHS. the flashbacks of the show are a whole different beast entirely and seeing as we are only told that the curse was cast on October 23, 1983, everything prior to that is pure estimate.
My first exposure to this show was coming across my mom watching it-she briefly explained the plot to me and that Mary Margaret was Emma’s mom, but didn’t explain any of the time travel aspects. Now it’s my go-to watch in the background show
Omg basically the same thing happened to me when Cain first tried explaining it to me years ago 😂 I’m so glad I finally gave in and started the series from the beginning - he can attest, it took many, MANY attempts LOL
I had much the same with a friend of mine talking about it with some other friends, which meant I got info-dumped 50% of season 1 and a decent chunk of season 2. Then I had the scenario you described to introduce my sister to the show. She didn’t keep up long term, but did finish season 3 after a while and wanted to know what I thought of every season after.
I have been WAITING for this one oh lordy. So far I love how you’ve broken down the first important flashbacks before going into everything. It seems like you have a very clear idea for organizing this messy messy show! Good job!! ❤ here’s me also dreaming for a riverdale breakdown one day when you’re less busy 😭😂 I think you do such a great job and bring a lot of your own personality to this type of breakdown video and you really stand out as your own creator. Fantastic work my dude
Looking back. Emma going and committing a crime by cutting the Apple tree. In retaliation to being framed for a crime is just so dumb to me. Like now she actually can be arrested like girly, trespassing?? Destruction of private property??? Threatening the mayor of the town in broad day light. Like I’m crying
Well... from our adult perspective, it doesn't make sense. But if you were a child or a preteen going rampant against your frenemy. It would make sense. Lol! Once years ago my best friend took away my love interest in Junior High school. In retaliation, I took away her pet and hid it at my home. Obviously, he was such a cutie, I couldn't part from him! My then guardians found out about our frenemy rivalry over a boy. And they told us both to stop acting like children, even though we were. And I had to return the dog. Which made me sad. So in other words, Emma and Regina are frenemies over Henry. If that makes any sense. 😂😂 If your bestie/frenemy took away your love interest, boyfriend, or even your brother, to get back at you over something innocent. You'll do something irrational like going over to her house with an electric saw and cut down her precious apple tree or orange tree.
I’m still so upset at how some storylines end in this show, I haven’t seen it in ages but I still remember that one little boy that was pushed out of storybrooke and vowed to come back and find his family but the police take him away 😓 and I’m still upset about baelfires death. Him and Emma were perfect together I loved them so much
Only 20 minutes into the show and you’ve made me fall in love with Robert Carlyle’s performance here. One of my favorite actors and brings pathos to so many roles, but specifically Rumple here and Rush into Stargate Universe
Commenting again bc I just finished and my gosh you out DID yourself with this one! I can not WAIT for season 2 recap! Love you Cain! Thank you for this
In later seasons, it isn't shown, but it is implied that Regina used him for killing innocents, framing jobs, and r***d him against his will for a very long time since the enchanted forest. The poor guy could not catch a break in his life. He was disposable, used, manipulated verbally and psychologically; and sexually abused by her. Again, this isn't fully said in the script, but after seeing how Regina sees him as a possession more than a lover. Her true love died a long time ago when Snow set them up to fail, hence Daniel dying. And in the modern Storybrooke the curse: Never to be Loved Curse. Then Regina realizes she will never be loved, then Emma will not be loved, and she kills off Graham. The chain continues. This is how I interpreted the later episodes.
i used once upon a timeline for a lot of them and used guesswork for others bc certain things didn’t make sense. the dates we are given are 10.23.2011 is the day the pilot aired and when its set. we know it’s emma’s 28th birthday so 28 years before 2011 is 1983. so we know the curse was cast 10.23.1983. all the other dates are mere guesses based on information they provide in the show.
I gotta say, I’m pretty disappointed we didn’t get to see any clips of “Baby Cain” in this recap - some of us, *ahem* your mom…know that said clips exist! 😉💙 I love you son, I’m so proud of your hard work (and persistence)! Once again, you killed it! 🙌🏻🌹
I first watched this like 8 years ago and rewatched both last year and a few months ago started again. For some reason this show has a special place in my heart, regardless of all the craziness. One of my comfort shows for sure and i LOVE that it's been talked about more since i don't know anyone who has seen it hahahah
1:52:56 In hindsight it would have been interesting if Regina was the one that told Henry she loved him and broke the curse that she herself cast. Emma convinced Regina that she really did love her son. That way, Henry's concern for Regina would have made more sense since Henry seemed to hate Regina in S1, and then cared about her in S2.
I’m sorry people have been being shitty with the Mikes Mic comments. I mean I don’t even think yall are that similar aside from both being funny and entertaining. Great video, loved every second of it. Don’t let assholes get in your head. God this show was actually fucking crazy.
As a kid I thought Prince Charming and the various iterations of The Prince (who I all called Prince Charming since I didn't know the charming one was specific to Cinderella, literally TIL) were just the same guy with different hair color from one particular Disney movie to the next, not the same-same guy with memories and anything but more like some poor (but a little bit boring) dude trapped in some multiverse thing (though I obviously didn't put it in those words then). Like the Disney universe was American Horror Story if they just kept Evan Peters in the same exact role throughout all the seasons and only changed the rest of the cast and setting, and no matter how different the setting is, that dude just keeps showing up.
The money I would pay for this to be a real Disney series 😂 like a comedy of errors type of story where Adam, Charming and Eric are one guy constantly panicking as they change wigs
I know literally not one thing about Once Upon a Time but you had such a hard time getting this video out that I feel compelled to be here to be educated.
I had so many good shows to was between 2006 - 2013. I was 11-18 during that time and we didn’t have cable. So me and my mom had this on Sundays and Downton Abbey was repeat the latest episode at like 11pm on PBS. And were there promptly every week with my younger sleeping sleeping in the couch next to us because we were clingy kids that wanted to be near our mom all the time. Anytime all that to say I love these recap videos because they remind of things I forgot about and it’s nice 😊
I feel like the writers decided to pitch the whole "true love's kiss can free rumple" because we see these two kiss SO MANY times and not once does it look like it's having an effect on him. and I'd argue that him being able to do what he did at the end of the storyline involving his dad would mean that he truly loved Belle more than power. (trying to keep it spoiler free for anyone who hasn't watched this show yet)
@@cainvarner like any other time I can pass it off as rumple being more in love with his power than Belle, but that SPECIFIC moment in season 2? I feel like after that they regressed on his character arc because "we can't have two redeemed villains in this town"
the first season was so solid in terms of writing, especially what came after. Rumbelle had me in a chokehold for the entire time the show was airing, even when I had actively stopped watching it. Robert Carlyle and Emiliee Deraven have such good chemistry.
Great video!!! I love your deep dives because you have the perfect blend of genuinely liking a show and critiquing its flaws in a funny way.. I hope you do season 2 if the copyright issues weren't too discouraging!!
i know you had a tough time with this video but i’m so glad you made it. this was such a good quality tv show recap/analysis, you really hit it out of the park and i know ill be rewatching this video. the best and my favorite OUAT recaps are when you can tell the person talking truly loves the show but can also call out its craziness and lows and I really felt that here. thank you so much for your hard work. no rush but i can’t wait for season 2 whenever it comes out:)
Found you through your 100 videos, and I noticed you had mentioned how much you love once upon a time. So when I saw this recommended in my feed I got so excited! Your'e doing great work and I love the way you talk and recap these shows and give your opinions with such cadence and humor. I hope your channel continues to grow and I cannot wait for the rest of this series and future content!
To this day, despite the pay off not being great bc of how they handled later seasons, Rumple and Belle’s tragic love story STILL gets me! It is such a bittersweet story, and did so much to make an already interesting character in Rumple more complex. Plus getting to show off more of Robert Carlyle’s acting like hot damn
I love this show. Even when it fell off, the first season was so well done, I’ve cried so many times! Peaked at season 3 but my memories are so fond even to this day ❤
I think many people don't understand about these shows that is not really about what's happening externally but internally to the characters. Some situations may seem a stretch but when you look at the character where they start and how that weird situation was key for a certain development it absolutely makes sense. The focus on these shows is different The flashbacks function as real life does. In every event you are living in present time there's a situation in your past that shapes the way you are, feel and going to do in the present
What i love about you doing this series now is I had the same experience with it as The 100. Watched first couple of seasons, stopped on some big cliffhangar or reveal (The 100 was when the nuke went off and they went to a new planet. Once upon a time was when Peter Pan was introduced) So i appreciate these videos giving me an abridged look at series i abandoned lol
You skipped the Neverland arc??? 😮 Oh no thats a lot of fans most favourite arcs in the whole show and the actor who plays Peter does such a good job!!! Its up to you but maybe give season 3 a watch? Haha
I like the one off episodes that focus on the side character as a pause from the main story and as a way to make the world feel full, diverse, and real.
Great analysis! I love your work dating all of the episodes in comparison to each other too, it was a great way to visualize the events of the season! (You also put the correct timeline for Gold and Bae, who aren't 300 years old as I've seen some people say). Excellent video 😊
Oh i know, Gold and Bae date is so controversial for some reason. like if Bae landed in 1800s London how was he born in the early 1700s?? it bothers me too. lol
I'm glad to see you agree. I mean--it is quite clearly Victorian London, putting Bae around 160 and Rumple around 190-200. It's a strange bit of misinformation.
@@cainvarneri thought he didn’t land in our world bc he lived with wendy and her siblings?? or if wendy is from the real world and not a fantasy world then how is she in the book?
Glad it finally went through! I’m so sorry it took so long and so many tries!! Great great video I absolutely love this show you did a great job covering it.
CAIN. This was AMAZING. You are AMAZING at recapping series. The way you tackle the multiple storylines and always recap it in the way that makes the most sense and flows the nicest for a viewer to follow, regardless of whether it's chronological or how the show reveals the story, is SO good, especially when spliced with your own personal thoughts and extra tidbits of how it was perceived when first airing. It really feels like a full documentary going into every possible detail of the shows existence and I don't think I've ever seen any other recap channel or reaction channel do as much of a thorough and enjoyable job as you do. And holy crap. I always believed I would enjoy OUAT, and so I was really excited for you to do it on your channel bc I thought I probably would never actually watch it myself or be interested enough to do so. But you've ABSOLUTELY convinced me. Once we got to episode 8 and onward and really unpacked Rumpelstiltskin's story, I was hooked. I am so in love with this man and I only know what this video relays about him lmao. I wanna watch it SO bad now and I'm SO excited for you to do the coming seasons!!!! Thank you so so much for making this amazing content for us, I know you really had a horrible time trying to upload it, but it was worth it, and I really hope you're able to continue and do the entire series bc I will be here for EVERY single video!!!! I'm going to go rewatch your breakdown of the musical now lmao
OMG this means so much to me girl. Like i try so hard and i’m so so happy you’re enjoying it!!! i am taking my time with this series. best guess is season 2 will be out in April or May. But idk. reading your comments every video just fills me with so much happiness and joy like you don’t have any idea. Please don’t hesitate at any time to message me on IG or whatever if you ever wanna talk because you seem like such a nice person and i always appreciate your comments…no matter how long they are ;) haahah
Ive been waiting for this one because so help me i cant sit through any OUAT recap, but i thought hmm i bet i know who can hold my attention ❤ + Camera Quality Queen and a Lost reference jumpscare, earning the Emmy!
This is the first time I leave a comment on TH-cam because omg! The amount of work put in this video is BEYOND impressive. OUAT is one of those tv shows retelling of which makes you sound like you need to be institutionalized on the spot, but somehow you made sense of it. Thank you, can’t wait for season 2!
I love all your videos and this one is the best imo (so far), it really shows how much you've learned and developed your style in just a few months. You should be so proud of yourself
i'm so happy you were able to get this up! we love you sm and have been so excited to watch this video/support u. ur content is incredible ❤️❤️ keep up the good work babes :)
Oh man. So. I got into this show because my aunt, uncle, and cousin were watching it and they were watching season 3 as it was airing. I saw the last few episodes of s3 (spoilers) when Belle and rumple get married, and that was what convinced me to watch the show. I remember really liking season 1 and I think 2 and not liking s3 but knowing I had something to look forward too. Eventually I got caught up and watched it in real time until the end of the main story arc (s6) and was like "wow, it's finally over, what a good ending" AND THEN SEASON 7 CAME OUT AND EVERYTHING STARTED OVER AGAIN AND I WAS OUT LOL. I loved this show, it consumed me for as long time. Rumple was always my fav character, and that's 100% because, as you said, Robert Carlyle is *amazing*. His and Belle's story is so good and so sad. I have been avoiding a lot of videos about this show, cause all the thumbnails lead me to believe people are just gonna bash it and make fun of it, cause yeah, it's a bonkers show. I am so glad I watched your video tho, you have reminded me how good this show was and why I liked it, and I will be rewatching this show for the first time. I love the way you summarized everything, and it was so engaging, I like your board a lot, and I appreciate how much you love this show.
This I my fave vid of yours so far, I can tell it’s a passion project, looking forward to the next! So sorry Disney is such a pain with cope right claims
I just started watching this show for the very first time a week ago, and am in the middle of season 2 rn. very happy I was recommended your video bc I know I wasn't fully paying attention half the time LOL.
Finally, someone talking about the show that actually likes it! Still so many critiques, though! I guess I’m an appreciator not a critic, I just find it more fun to like things- I just can’t find anything to dislike about this show, it’s perfect to me from beginning to end! I really love that they kept going _until everyone got a happy end._ Even characters I didn’t know I was ok having one- like King Arthur. This show absolutely was darker than I’d expect Disney to be- Regina uses Graham as her um- personal- slave, in both versions of reality, because she has control of him through his heart; she massacred entire towns as the Evil Queen just for helping Snow. King Arthur used mind control to keep Gwenevere with him against her will. I think that’s about as dark as you can get. It’s been a while since I did a full rewatch but there are plenty of examples! This show is one of the best 🫶🥰
Once upon a time means so much to me. When it first came out I was about 5 but when I was in 1st grade I remember seeing my mom watching the 3rd season and getting really invested so I watched the first two seasons and fell in love. We would watch every episode when it came out at 8 and I remember begging my mom to let me stay up till 10 to watch the season 3 finale cause even 9 was late for little 6/7-year-old me. I had to promise that I would wake up for school and would go to sleep right after. Had to do all my bed stuff before 8 just to be sure. The memories this show holds. Now I think about it I was so young when I first watch it I didn't catch a lot of things just fairytales oooh.
I feel like that snow line in episode 1 about regina poisoning the apple because snow was prettier than her must’ve just been for the pilot and a throwaway cause it makes nooo sense
Funny thing is most of this show is filmed near vancouver bc canada, so my grandparents actually watched this show just to go “i know what path that is, i know what lake that is, look we took you there x years ago”
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IJBOL i just realized i misspelled 1x06 “the Shepherd” as “the Shepard” 😭😭😭
That was the key to getting it past copyright jail 😂
nooo not the pretty little liars author ☹
a follow up of the 100 pls
it’s coming!! these videos are taking longer and longer to make because i have plenty of things im working on. in the rest of month alone i have at least 2 more videos coming and it’s not even half way over so please be patient! i’m trying hard to get it out before april.
@@cainvarner thank you lots i’ll be looking forward to it
Also thank you for all the effort you are putting in your vids 💜
Can we talk about the most overlooked but evil part of the dark curse? All the middle-school aged kids from the enchanted forest had to repeat middle-school for TWENTY-EIGHT YEARS. That sounds like a literal hell.
Without even talking about Cindy/Ashely being pregnant for TWENTY EIGHT YEARS. That poor girl
@@StellaLoreley for real!! Evil Queen did all this because of Snow White yet punishes innocent children and Ashley the hardest 😅
but then when you think about henrys pov, he, being the only person not cursed, is the only person in town growing up. hes the only kid going up to an older class. none of the other kids growing up. i feel like it couldve been a psychological horror when you think about it
Cinderella was pregnant for 28 years
It does suck but they were all in like a trancelike stupor. I don’t think they really experienced it in a distinct way, more like a dream- and when you wake up from a dream, time doesn’t really matter in the same way, no matter how much or little time happened in the dream or waking.
Head's up people. If you thought the Charming family tree was complicated now, just wait until you meet henry's dad
😂😂
Oh, absoLUTELY.
And then it gets even worse if you add in someone who is arguably his step-grandfather. Ah the good old days when the family tree didn't need hours of explanations about how by some miracle, there's no incest.
@@KaishaLouise Wait. do you mean the one who married his paternal grandma after she left her husband (trying really hard to be vague about this for people who haven't seen the show and don't know yet lol)?
@@keyblademasterclark Yep - that one.
Let’s be honest Once Upon A Time walked so Riverdale could run 😌
thissss
this will now live rent free in my head
Riverdale ran and eventually it ran so far it fell off a cliff
Oooh I’ve never watched Riverdale…does this need to be added to my list??
@nikkicoleman6709 it’s like pretty little liars but crazier.
“The family tree is confusing.” Oh, just wait until next season and we meet Henry’s dad…
i think when i get to s7 it will be the most confusing. as a 10 year vet of this show the first seasons are just not as confusing to me anymore like i just act as if it’s normal 😭😭😭
@@cainvarner I found this video confusing and this is just season one- I’m screwed if I wanna watch the rest of this series 💀
I didn't realise gold remembered his past when he heard Emma's name. I thought he always knew. But that makes it even more interesting.
SAME! MINDBLOWED
Regina using “her move” to literally break Henry’s heart shows just how evil she still was at that time IMO
no exactlyyy
Oh man it is so cathartic hearing someone ELSE explain the Charming family tree. If it wasn't for Henry that family tree wouldn't be nearly as confusing
I honestly feel like that the side-stories added much for the worldbuilding in season 1 and really added to that 'crossover' vibe. Cinderella, Hansel & Gretel, Jiminy Cricket. It was fun seeing all those stories mixed and mashed together. It annoyed me in later seasons when each half season would be themed after a specific tale (Frozen, Camelot, Aladdin etc)
oh i preferred the arch’s personally
I feel like the arcs added more plot-wise and sometimes character dynamic-wise, but many just felt bloated and underdeveloped their characters. It meant we didn’t have as solid a cast as we did during the first two seasons, when we reliably saw the same faces.
Accurate considering its more like how television used to be i can watch pretty.much any episodes without know whats going on or missing anything as long as you knew the basic story
I dont think that episodes that focused on "non-important" side characters were a waist of time. They didnt further the plot, but they helped with the world building, which is just as important as the plotline imo. Those stories thouaght us so many things about this world: differnt princes of different fariytales came from different kingdoms, Rumpule made deals with people all across those kingdoms, we learn of how faries are assinged as gardians for different people, we learn that faries have their own lifes and conflicts and they wanted love too, we learn that dwarves arent just "the 7 dwarves", there is a whole sociaty of them and they work in a symbiotic relationship with faries.
This information might not further the plot, but it flashs out the world, it makes us care about that world.
I actually love the double identiy aspect of many of the chacaters, it makes the world feel very interconected.
i love the flashbacks in the show so much because of this
I think The Cinderella and Jiminny episodes serve many purposes. They demonstrate that Regina is slowly losing the power and control that she desperately clings onto and that Emma is symbolically or literally weakening the curse by being present. The Cinderella one also introduces the relationship between Emma and Mr. Gold, and develops the moral and heroic side of Emma.
Good old Leroy. The only dwarf who really matters in this show
ITS HERE!!!
You forgot about Stealthy
@@JaydenBrohm XD how could I forget
My boi Dreamy demands to be remembered
“Everyone’s favorite clown” I’m howling I was not expecting that at all 😭
you are growing so confident and i love listening to the way you eloquently but still humorously tackle media. i think i saw a community post about comparisons to mike’s mic and i just want to say, while i love his style, that yours has grown into its own thing and it’s great. you have very clear investment in the stories you’re analyzing and you take them seriously in a way that still feels lighthearted. but it is clear that you think very hard about these pieces of media and that it’s not entirely just a comedy thing anymore. if you are inching in the direction of “video essay,” instead of “recap” (although those terms are relative and can coexist), i am totally along for the ride. regardless of direction, i think you have the intelligence, public speaking skills, unique charisma, passion, and media literacy to only keep improving.
omg???? this is so nice. it’s odd to hear people say this because i’m so critical of myself and how i speak so it means a lot to hear another pov
@@cainvarnerearlier on you definitely had more of his “persona” in terms of turns of phrase and accent (which isn’t bad at all, that’s what happens when you’re immersed in a genre, and also like. a lot of it is gay culture sometimes having shared dialects), but i have noticed that you seem to be a lot more straightforward and you’re developing your own speaking habits and turns of phrase that make your more recent videos unique. it feels more natural, like a conversation in a media studies class or with friends, rather than a performance. neither thing is better than the other, but if that more down-to-earth composure is what’s most natural to you, i’m glad you’re allowing it to shine (and it does!)
What a beautiful thing to say 🥰
I am SO impressed by the dates you have in the corner of the screen. most of the time I spend watching this show is me trying to date each episode in the timeline, and you having done it seemingly pretty accurately here is very satisfying to me
there’s other sources online that roughly estimate the timeline so i used those to like check my work and most of the time i was correct lol. i did the same with the 100 and AHS.
the flashbacks of the show are a whole different beast entirely and seeing as we are only told that the curse was cast on October 23, 1983, everything prior to that is pure estimate.
My first exposure to this show was coming across my mom watching it-she briefly explained the plot to me and that Mary Margaret was Emma’s mom, but didn’t explain any of the time travel aspects.
Now it’s my go-to watch in the background show
Omg basically the same thing happened to me when Cain first tried explaining it to me years ago 😂
I’m so glad I finally gave in and started the series from the beginning - he can attest, it took many, MANY attempts LOL
I had much the same with a friend of mine talking about it with some other friends, which meant I got info-dumped 50% of season 1 and a decent chunk of season 2. Then I had the scenario you described to introduce my sister to the show. She didn’t keep up long term, but did finish season 3 after a while and wanted to know what I thought of every season after.
i like that Regina's hate for Snow wasn;t based on her beauty
Please make this a longer a series and do as many of the season as possible never seen someone as passionate about OUAT as I am
oh don’t worry i’m going to do it it all !!
I have been WAITING for this one oh lordy. So far I love how you’ve broken down the first important flashbacks before going into everything. It seems like you have a very clear idea for organizing this messy messy show! Good job!! ❤ here’s me also dreaming for a riverdale breakdown one day when you’re less busy 😭😂 I think you do such a great job and bring a lot of your own personality to this type of breakdown video and you really stand out as your own creator. Fantastic work my dude
thank you so much. i’m definitely trying haha
the level of WORK to reference the scene and recalling which episode, dying for it
Looking back. Emma going and committing a crime by cutting the Apple tree. In retaliation to being framed for a crime is just so dumb to me. Like now she actually can be arrested like girly, trespassing?? Destruction of private property??? Threatening the mayor of the town in broad day light. Like I’m crying
Well... from our adult perspective, it doesn't make sense. But if you were a child or a preteen going rampant against your frenemy. It would make sense. Lol!
Once years ago my best friend took away my love interest in Junior High school. In retaliation, I took away her pet and hid it at my home. Obviously, he was such a cutie, I couldn't part from him! My then guardians found out about our frenemy rivalry over a boy. And they told us both to stop acting like children, even though we were. And I had to return the dog. Which made me sad. So in other words, Emma and Regina are frenemies over Henry. If that makes any sense. 😂😂
If your bestie/frenemy took away your love interest, boyfriend, or even your brother, to get back at you over something innocent. You'll do something irrational like going over to her house with an electric saw and cut down her precious apple tree or orange tree.
So happy you got this out here. I hope you are now more stress free
I’m still so upset at how some storylines end in this show, I haven’t seen it in ages but I still remember that one little boy that was pushed out of storybrooke and vowed to come back and find his family but the police take him away 😓 and I’m still upset about baelfires death. Him and Emma were perfect together I loved them so much
Only 20 minutes into the show and you’ve made me fall in love with Robert Carlyle’s performance here. One of my favorite actors and brings pathos to so many roles, but specifically Rumple here and Rush into Stargate Universe
i love him so so so much
I fucking adored rumple as a kid idk why
Commenting again bc I just finished and my gosh you out DID yourself with this one! I can not WAIT for season 2 recap! Love you Cain! Thank you for this
i am excited to continue this series!!!
SHOOK by the increase in production quality, seriously the work put it in here is so apparent
thank you 😭😭😭
Graham was too good a character to kill off and forget 😢 i agree the whole heart control thing went too far with him
In later seasons, it isn't shown, but it is implied that Regina used him for killing innocents, framing jobs, and r***d him against his will for a very long time since the enchanted forest. The poor guy could not catch a break in his life. He was disposable, used, manipulated verbally and psychologically; and sexually abused by her.
Again, this isn't fully said in the script, but after seeing how Regina sees him as a possession more than a lover. Her true love died a long time ago when Snow set them up to fail, hence Daniel dying. And in the modern Storybrooke the curse: Never to be Loved Curse. Then Regina realizes she will never be loved, then Emma will not be loved, and she kills off Graham. The chain continues. This is how I interpreted the later episodes.
idk how on EARTH you figured out the exact dates of every day including the flashbacks (im guessing by some OUAT wiki) but i GREATLY appreciate it
i used once upon a timeline for a lot of them and used guesswork for others bc certain things didn’t make sense. the dates we are given are 10.23.2011 is the day the pilot aired and when its set. we know it’s emma’s 28th birthday so 28 years before 2011 is 1983. so we know the curse was cast 10.23.1983. all the other dates are mere guesses based on information they provide in the show.
You can pry this show from my cold dead hands
genuinely in top 3 of my favorite shows like idek why
I gotta say, I’m pretty disappointed we didn’t get to see any clips of “Baby Cain” in this recap - some of us, *ahem* your mom…know that said clips exist! 😉💙
I love you son, I’m so proud of your hard work (and persistence)! Once again, you killed it! 🙌🏻🌹
thank you mom 💙 maybe in Season 2 👀
the way the algorithm knows me very well, i love your explanation so much and this show was my lifeline during my depression era in my early 20s 😭
I first watched this like 8 years ago and rewatched both last year and a few months ago started again. For some reason this show has a special place in my heart, regardless of all the craziness. One of my comfort shows for sure and i LOVE that it's been talked about more since i don't know anyone who has seen it hahahah
1:52:56 In hindsight it would have been interesting if Regina was the one that told Henry she loved him and broke the curse that she herself cast. Emma convinced Regina that she really did love her son. That way, Henry's concern for Regina would have made more sense since Henry seemed to hate Regina in S1, and then cared about her in S2.
I’m sorry people have been being shitty with the Mikes Mic comments. I mean I don’t even think yall are that similar aside from both being funny and entertaining. Great video, loved every second of it. Don’t let assholes get in your head.
God this show was actually fucking crazy.
As a kid I thought Prince Charming and the various iterations of The Prince (who I all called Prince Charming since I didn't know the charming one was specific to Cinderella, literally TIL) were just the same guy with different hair color from one particular Disney movie to the next, not the same-same guy with memories and anything but more like some poor (but a little bit boring) dude trapped in some multiverse thing (though I obviously didn't put it in those words then). Like the Disney universe was American Horror Story if they just kept Evan Peters in the same exact role throughout all the seasons and only changed the rest of the cast and setting, and no matter how different the setting is, that dude just keeps showing up.
The money I would pay for this to be a real Disney series 😂 like a comedy of errors type of story where Adam, Charming and Eric are one guy constantly panicking as they change wigs
I know literally not one thing about Once Upon a Time but you had such a hard time getting this video out that I feel compelled to be here to be educated.
this means so much to me thank you i hope you enjoy it!!!
I had so many good shows to was between 2006 - 2013. I was 11-18 during that time and we didn’t have cable. So me and my mom had this on Sundays and Downton Abbey was repeat the latest episode at like 11pm on PBS. And were there promptly every week with my younger sleeping sleeping in the couch next to us because we were clingy kids that wanted to be near our mom all the time. Anytime all that to say I love these recap videos because they remind of things I forgot about and it’s nice 😊
I feel like the writers decided to pitch the whole "true love's kiss can free rumple" because we see these two kiss SO MANY times and not once does it look like it's having an effect on him. and I'd argue that him being able to do what he did at the end of the storyline involving his dad would mean that he truly loved Belle more than power. (trying to keep it spoiler free for anyone who hasn't watched this show yet)
omg yes that’s a perfect example
@@cainvarner like any other time I can pass it off as rumple being more in love with his power than Belle, but that SPECIFIC moment in season 2? I feel like after that they regressed on his character arc because "we can't have two redeemed villains in this town"
So happy to see this pop up on my feed after hearing about all the trouble with it!!
I think Once Upon a Time was my first show that wasn't like a cartoon or a little kid disney channel show. Absolutely loved it then and love it now
the first season was so solid in terms of writing, especially what came after. Rumbelle had me in a chokehold for the entire time the show was airing, even when I had actively stopped watching it. Robert Carlyle and Emiliee Deraven have such good chemistry.
hope you're feeling better! So glad that you finally got this video up!
yup!!!
I'm absolutely LIVING for this new format! I can tell just how much work was put into this
Great video!!! I love your deep dives because you have the perfect blend of genuinely liking a show and critiquing its flaws in a funny way.. I hope you do season 2 if the copyright issues weren't too discouraging!!
of course i’ll be doing the whole show. copyright strikes are NO match for my persistence 😭😭😭
@@cainvarner thank you king 🙌
i know you had a tough time with this video but i’m so glad you made it. this was such a good quality tv show recap/analysis, you really hit it out of the park and i know ill be rewatching this video. the best and my favorite OUAT recaps are when you can tell the person talking truly loves the show but can also call out its craziness and lows and I really felt that here. thank you so much for your hard work. no rush but i can’t wait for season 2 whenever it comes out:)
the way ginnifer goodwin delivers the “i don’t [love you]” to david is so good, she’s such a good actress for nonsense that eventually goes on
i know 11 year old me was so gagged
"A twink that makes a video essay about an iconic show" is my go to right now. Love it
is it really necessary to call me that
the true love motif playing in the back of the sw/pc scenes gets me everytime 🥰
Snow and Charming were the blueprint of love stories for me when I was a kid 🤧
i am beyond excited for u to make one of these for ouat's third season. it was by far my FAVE, i loved hook and emma so freaking much
Season 3 is not only the best season but has the best singular episodes hands diwn
Found you through your 100 videos, and I noticed you had mentioned how much you love once upon a time. So when I saw this recommended in my feed I got so excited! Your'e doing great work and I love the way you talk and recap these shows and give your opinions with such cadence and humor. I hope your channel continues to grow and I cannot wait for the rest of this series and future content!
To this day, despite the pay off not being great bc of how they handled later seasons, Rumple and Belle’s tragic love story STILL gets me! It is such a bittersweet story, and did so much to make an already interesting character in Rumple more complex.
Plus getting to show off more of Robert Carlyle’s acting like hot damn
Ughhh im so happy you made it through the copyright shit! Im so excited for this!
I love this show. Even when it fell off, the first season was so well done, I’ve cried so many times! Peaked at season 3 but my memories are so fond even to this day ❤
When David gives Mary Margaret the card and she stares off into the middle distance was so fucking funny XDDD
I think many people don't understand about these shows that is not really about what's happening externally but internally to the characters. Some situations may seem a stretch but when you look at the character where they start and how that weird situation was key for a certain development it absolutely makes sense. The focus on these shows is different
The flashbacks function as real life does. In every event you are living in present time there's a situation in your past that shapes the way you are, feel and going to do in the present
What i love about you doing this series now is I had the same experience with it as The 100.
Watched first couple of seasons, stopped on some big cliffhangar or reveal
(The 100 was when the nuke went off and they went to a new planet. Once upon a time was when Peter Pan was introduced)
So i appreciate these videos giving me an abridged look at series i abandoned lol
omg i am here for you!
You skipped the Neverland arc??? 😮 Oh no thats a lot of fans most favourite arcs in the whole show and the actor who plays Peter does such a good job!!! Its up to you but maybe give season 3 a watch? Haha
I'm so happy with how much Once Upon a Time content I've been seeing on TH-cam lately
Katherine was such a girlboss. I loved her so much and was so sad when she disappeared
This is the absolute highlight of my day. You are so loved, Ms. Girl ❤
I like the one off episodes that focus on the side character as a pause from the main story and as a way to make the world feel full, diverse, and real.
When I got the notification I SCREAMED, I'm so excited
i hope you enjoyyyyy
Literally can't live without your breakdown. I'm not dramatic, you're dramatic! 👀 alright, gonna finish watching now tyyy❤
Great analysis! I love your work dating all of the episodes in comparison to each other too, it was a great way to visualize the events of the season! (You also put the correct timeline for Gold and Bae, who aren't 300 years old as I've seen some people say). Excellent video 😊
Oh i know, Gold and Bae date is so controversial for some reason. like if Bae landed in 1800s London how was he born in the early 1700s?? it bothers me too. lol
I'm glad to see you agree. I mean--it is quite clearly Victorian London, putting Bae around 160 and Rumple around 190-200. It's a strange bit of misinformation.
@@cainvarneri thought he didn’t land in our world bc he lived with wendy and her siblings?? or if wendy is from the real world and not a fantasy world then how is she in the book?
I'm so glad you were able to get this uploaded. Thank you for getting me through my last 2 hours of work
i hope it helped!! i’m so happy y’all like it
@@cainvarner It definitely helped! And I for sure loved it. This show is so messy but you did a really good job at making it make sense.
Glad it finally went through! I’m so sorry it took so long and so many tries!! Great great video I absolutely love this show you did a great job covering it.
thanks girly 😭😭😭
So happy you finally got this up!! This is getting me through a sick day so thank you!!
You made it babe! I’m so glad you were able to upload. Now I’m gonna relax and listen 💖
thank you so much! i hope you enjoy!
Season 1 is truly iconic
Never got into this show and thank you for summarizing so well!
CAIN. This was AMAZING. You are AMAZING at recapping series. The way you tackle the multiple storylines and always recap it in the way that makes the most sense and flows the nicest for a viewer to follow, regardless of whether it's chronological or how the show reveals the story, is SO good, especially when spliced with your own personal thoughts and extra tidbits of how it was perceived when first airing. It really feels like a full documentary going into every possible detail of the shows existence and I don't think I've ever seen any other recap channel or reaction channel do as much of a thorough and enjoyable job as you do.
And holy crap. I always believed I would enjoy OUAT, and so I was really excited for you to do it on your channel bc I thought I probably would never actually watch it myself or be interested enough to do so. But you've ABSOLUTELY convinced me. Once we got to episode 8 and onward and really unpacked Rumpelstiltskin's story, I was hooked. I am so in love with this man and I only know what this video relays about him lmao. I wanna watch it SO bad now and I'm SO excited for you to do the coming seasons!!!! Thank you so so much for making this amazing content for us, I know you really had a horrible time trying to upload it, but it was worth it, and I really hope you're able to continue and do the entire series bc I will be here for EVERY single video!!!! I'm going to go rewatch your breakdown of the musical now lmao
THIS IS SO SWEET ❤
OMG this means so much to me girl. Like i try so hard and i’m so so happy you’re enjoying it!!! i am taking my time with this series. best guess is season 2 will be out in April or May. But idk. reading your comments every video just fills me with so much happiness and joy like you don’t have any idea. Please don’t hesitate at any time to message me on IG or whatever if you ever wanna talk because you seem like such a nice person and i always appreciate your comments…no matter how long they are ;) haahah
i'm glad you were able to post the video ❤❤❤
Ive been waiting for this one because so help me i cant sit through any OUAT recap, but i thought hmm i bet i know who can hold my attention ❤ + Camera Quality Queen and a Lost reference jumpscare, earning the Emmy!
My absolute favorite show ever
Been going through so I missed a few videos but Im so excited about this one! You better work diva!
This is the first time I leave a comment on TH-cam because omg! The amount of work put in this video is BEYOND impressive. OUAT is one of those tv shows retelling of which makes you sound like you need to be institutionalized on the spot, but somehow you made sense of it. Thank you, can’t wait for season 2!
I love this show, but HATE how they handled adoption. ( I am adopted)
I love all your videos and this one is the best imo (so far), it really shows how much you've learned and developed your style in just a few months. You should be so proud of yourself
i definitely believe this as well. like i went all out
Yes!!!🙌🏻
The first season is probably my favorite. It's so solid
I am so happy that you are touching this lil series...so little....thank you, now I have something to do for this evening
The girlies have arrived!!
Omg I would LOVE to see a Supernatural series.
Loving the setup! Top tier content ❤
So happy to see this video published after all the trouble ! Amazing job as always ❤
i'm so happy you were able to get this up! we love you sm and have been so excited to watch this video/support u. ur content is incredible ❤️❤️ keep up the good work babes :)
Thank you for taking the time to do all of this! I haven’t thought about this show in years but I loved your recap of it!!!!
Oh man. So. I got into this show because my aunt, uncle, and cousin were watching it and they were watching season 3 as it was airing. I saw the last few episodes of s3 (spoilers) when Belle and rumple get married, and that was what convinced me to watch the show. I remember really liking season 1 and I think 2 and not liking s3 but knowing I had something to look forward too. Eventually I got caught up and watched it in real time until the end of the main story arc (s6) and was like "wow, it's finally over, what a good ending" AND THEN SEASON 7 CAME OUT AND EVERYTHING STARTED OVER AGAIN AND I WAS OUT LOL.
I loved this show, it consumed me for as long time. Rumple was always my fav character, and that's 100% because, as you said, Robert Carlyle is *amazing*. His and Belle's story is so good and so sad.
I have been avoiding a lot of videos about this show, cause all the thumbnails lead me to believe people are just gonna bash it and make fun of it, cause yeah, it's a bonkers show. I am so glad I watched your video tho, you have reminded me how good this show was and why I liked it, and I will be rewatching this show for the first time.
I love the way you summarized everything, and it was so engaging, I like your board a lot, and I appreciate how much you love this show.
This I my fave vid of yours so far, I can tell it’s a passion project, looking forward to the next! So sorry Disney is such a pain with cope right claims
I just started watching this show for the very first time a week ago, and am in the middle of season 2 rn. very happy I was recommended your video bc I know I wasn't fully paying attention half the time LOL.
Finally, someone talking about the show that actually likes it! Still so many critiques, though! I guess I’m an appreciator not a critic, I just find it more fun to like things- I just can’t find anything to dislike about this show, it’s perfect to me from beginning to end! I really love that they kept going _until everyone got a happy end._ Even characters I didn’t know I was ok having one- like King Arthur. This show absolutely was darker than I’d expect Disney to be- Regina uses Graham as her um- personal- slave, in both versions of reality, because she has control of him through his heart; she massacred entire towns as the Evil Queen just for helping Snow. King Arthur used mind control to keep Gwenevere with him against her will. I think that’s about as dark as you can get. It’s been a while since I did a full rewatch but there are plenty of examples!
This show is one of the best 🫶🥰
WERE SO BACK congrats on getting this up!!
king of effort king of the ouat stans 🫶🏻
Yay! Congrats on the successful upload! This was such a great video and I can't wait to watch it again and again!
thank you 😭😭😭
After all your struggles getting this released I am very happy to see it finally got sorted. Now enjoy a much deserved rest!
WOW this was fantastic
Yay! Glad you were able to upload it 😊
Once upon a time means so much to me. When it first came out I was about 5 but when I was in 1st grade I remember seeing my mom watching the 3rd season and getting really invested so I watched the first two seasons and fell in love. We would watch every episode when it came out at 8 and I remember begging my mom to let me stay up till 10 to watch the season 3 finale cause even 9 was late for little 6/7-year-old me. I had to promise that I would wake up for school and would go to sleep right after. Had to do all my bed stuff before 8 just to be sure. The memories this show holds. Now I think about it I was so young when I first watch it I didn't catch a lot of things just fairytales oooh.
So excited for this!! Thanks for all the hard work you put in! I know the uploading process was a huge hassle.
i’m just glad it’s out
I feel like that snow line in episode 1 about regina poisoning the apple because snow was prettier than her must’ve just been for the pilot and a throwaway cause it makes nooo sense
Yay!! So glad you finally were able to get it up!
me too it was so painstaking
Funny thing is most of this show is filmed near vancouver bc canada, so my grandparents actually watched this show just to go “i know what path that is, i know what lake that is, look we took you there x years ago”
What a fantastic video! Thank you so much for all your hard work and it was 100% worth the wait. 🙂