The Downfall of Trimark Pictures
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R.I.P. Julian Sands (1958-2023)
Cannon Films had a epic downfall that needs to be covered
Definitely, great idea!
Artisan too
I just watched a Cannon film and boy was it a stinker lmao
LifeForce dir by Tobe Hooper and written by Dan O’bannon
On paper thats a dynamic duo but if I had to guess, cocaine was the driving force of the movie 😂
It was so bad haha had great potential tho
Looks like a big, complex story to tell. I'll get to it eventually
Cannon already have 2 major documentaries. "Electric Boogaloo: The Wild, Untold Story of Cannon Films".
"The Go-Go Boys: The Inside Story of Cannon Films"
One of them are positive and one of them are negative. Watch both.
Trimark also had computer video games, I was lead artist on Trimark's first release of a video game, Rainbow Studios "The Hive" in 1994.
Rainbow was in Phoenix, AZ, so we worked at night mostly during the city's summer schedule.
Lots of fun, I would do it again.
A trampoline ad? Finally an ad that is actually for something cool!
Usually in video ads are scams.
Think this guy is legitimate
I actually saw Star Kid in the theater.
First time in my life I was ever the only person in the theater.
My Dad took me to see Star Kid. We both agreed it was like a kid’s version of The Guyver lol
I saw Star Kid with my mom when it was released in theaters during January 1998. We were the ONLY ones in that theater. LOL. It was actually pretty fun. Since no one else was in that theater, me and my mom actually spoke to each other as we were commenting on the film while watching it and eating popcorn. We both enjoyed it for what it was. It's NOT the best film, but we liked it. We both gave it a thumbs up.
Also,
The only film I saw by myself in theaters (where I was the ONLY person in the theater) was the 2005 film "Alone in the Dark" where I was watching the film by myself in the theater... LITERALLY alone in the dark. LMAO. I only went to see Alone in the Dark because I heard it was horrible and I just wanted to experience it and see if it was really that bad and I had time on my hands to do that. How was it? Well, I actually enjoyed it during the first 30 minutes or so.... then after the first 30 minutes or so, the film rapidly falls apart into a pile of crap and gets really terrible. The film felt like the script writer only turned in 1/3rd of the script and forgot to write the remaining 2/3rds of the script and director Uwe Boll just randomly made up the rest of the film as he went along (and he did a terrible job at it. LOL).
OMG, is that the one where the boy has to get help getting his fly open? All these years, and that scene is the first thing I think of when I hear about this movie.
I have never seen a trampoline ad on youtube
I worked in a “mom & pop” video rental store that was bought out by Hollywood Video in 2002 and the transition from a diverse ocean of films to walls of samey popular movies was crazy.
Growing up the 1980s, the whole point of going to the local video store for my friends and I was to see weird, obscure/semi-obscure, good but unpopular films! At that time in the mid 1980s renting a newly released to video movie was expensive and not everyone could afford or wanted to. Why rent Back to the Future 3 or Aliens 3 newly released to video for $10 a night when you could rent five '70s Blaxploitation or low-budget Sci-Fantasy or Kung Fu classics for $3.99? I discovered many indie and foreign films on the dollar budget bins of my local video stores. It was a wonderful era for discovering film.
@WonderSparkPuppets1 Actually, the film Be Kind Rewind (Mos Def, Jack Black) is basically about thus topic. It's a beautiful funny movie, a love letter to small video stores.
Do you remember carrying the VHS of Shazam with Sinbad
This video unlocked a core memory in me with Leprechaun.
Chairman of the Board? I bet "Board" was spelled B-O-R-E-D
Norm MacDonald was a legend for that Conan O'Brien interview 🤣
I remember watching that the first night it was on Conan and man he’s funny
i saw that on cinemax. it was ok. it played with another movie that no one saw at my local theatre & they were only charging 1.50 for a movie ticket then. it barely did any business that week. lol
LMFAO, to think that Carrot Top could ever rival or replace Jim Carrey!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@brandonpage7087 i know that was crazy.
Please do Carolco Pictures, New World Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Vestron, Artisan and other smaller companies now owned by Lionsgate too!
I was probably between 25 and 28 when I saw Larry Clark's _"kids"_ for the first time on VHS. I remember thinking, *_"The parents who pay little to no attention to their kids would swear up and down that this movie is SO outrageous and exaggerated!"_* I also thought about my PSYCHO cousins, because they were the type to give beer and/or cigarettes to younger kids because they thought it was funny... That scene with those 5 or 6 year old boys imitating the teens (passing a joint) was *ROUGH!*
I still think it's an exaggerated depiction of teens for shock value.
I ran a Mom & Pop video store in Alabama from 1998-2009. They were the best as they let me bring in semi-Indie films such as Donnie Darko, the Before Trilogy, and Asian Horror/Drama. The wall of Tartan Video releases was super popular in our area as no one had these titles, as Hollywood/Budget Video/Blockbuster primarily carried major theatrical releases only & focused on gaming as a side project. We had a solid gaming area with 3 titles of big Xbox/360, PS1/PS2, GameCube/Wii, and even a few Dreamcast titles. I miss that place & the faith they had in me as a freshly graduated HS/Freshman in University. I wish we hadn’t lost the building due to the housing crisis (owners were losing their home & had to sell business to keep home). My physical media library is as big as it is today because of Norman & Nan, and miss spending hours in that place on & off clock
Growing up the 1980s, the whole point of going to the local video store for my friends and I was to see weird, obscure/semi-obscure, good but unpopular films! At that time in the mid 1980s renting a newly released to video movie was expensive and not everyone could afford or wanted to. Why rent Back to the Future 2 or Top Gun newly released to video for $10 a night when you could rent five '70s Blaxploitation or low-budget Sci-Fantasy or Kung Fu classics for $3.99? I discovered many indie and foreign films on the dollar budget bins of my local video stores. It was a wonderful era for discovering film.
same...from Canada here ..my timeframe as well.. though the pay wasn't the best those video store days were some of funnest times ever .... wouldn't change it for anything ..and so bummed when it was over
Do you still have any of those titles?
@@FigmentForever Be Kind Rewind (Jack Black, Mos Def 2008) is a really funny, bittersweet film about this topic.
@@Kurtsg10 I have every single one. When they shuttered the store, I got my pick of any/all I wanted before they auctioned off the entirety of the contents (shelving, movies/games, etc). My physical movie collection just hit 9k this last month 😊
Great video. Every now and then TH-cam gets their recommendations right.
This story feels like a validation of Picard saying "It's possible to commit no mistakes and still lose." Strategically, almost everything Trimark did was a good idea, and they were forward-looking in a way most companies aren't. But they just didn't have the clout and resources to keep their momentum going once the big studios started moving into their markets.
If there's one thing I'd armchair quarterback, it's that their "spaghetti at the wall" approach to their first year of theatrical films was probably a bad call. Most of their early films like Star Kid just looked *cheap* and kinda tacky. If they'd cut their production schedule in half and put more resources into the best prospects, they might have pulled it off. But even then, the major studios had already crowded the low/mid-budget market to the point there'd be no guarantee of success.
Picard just couldn't admit he f*cked up!
@@bigfootwalker5399 nah
Wow. An incredible amount of research into the home video industry went into this, well beyond simply understanding Trimark's history.
This is a terrific documentary on such an endearing subject. Thank you for this.
I heard 'Carrot Top' and said 'aw shit' out loud.
Fascinating history! I really wasn't aware that there was more to the Trimark story than just being the home of the LEPRECHAUN movies!
Growing up the 1980s, the whole point of going to the local video store for my friends and I was to see weird, obscure/semi-obscure, good but unpopular films! At that time in the mid 1980s renting a newly released to video movie was expensive and not everyone could afford or wanted to. Why rent Back to the Future 2 or Top Gun newly released to video for $10 a night when you could rent five '70s Blaxploitation or low-budget Sci-Fantasy or Kung Fu classics for $3.99? I discovered many indie and foreign films on the dollar budget bins of my local video stores. It was a wonderful era for discovering film.
Slight correction: the first retail home videocassette format was actually Cartrivision in 1972, with fully licensed Hollywood films being made available on tape for the first time, and you could even rent Cartrivision tapes, either via mail, or from some Sears (and maybe Montgomery Ward) locations. Of course Cartrivision failed miserably, for the most part gone by 1973, so VHS and BETA were the first to "viable" home video formats.
Thanks for this bit of info. Interesting, I never heard of Cartrivision.
Betamax only ever failed because Sony's licensing terms were too strict and expensive.
Of course, RCA's invention of the 'EP' speed would slightly help VHS later.
@@Code7UnltdBetamax failed because the initial blank tapes only recorded an hour of footage as opposed to 2 hours on VHS.
Thank you for covering this I have so many vidmark/Trimark tapes
Stoned Age,Warlock 2,Leprechaun,Sandra Bullock nude in a flick,Return Of The Living Dead 3.I rented a ton of their output from my local mom and pop shop.
Return of the Living Dead III was a solid movie for what it was. Return of the Living Dead 2 was a dumpster fire only redeemed by the Doctor character who was essentially the comic relief and of course Return of the Living Dead was a god damned masterpiece 🔥 probably the best example of blending comedy/horror. maybe tied with ReAnimator
What’s the name of that Sandra bullock movie
@juliolopez6289 I discovered many gems in the dollar bargain bin at my local video stores in the late 80s/early 90s.
I do miss the eclectic selection my mom-and-pop video store had when I was a kid. Once Blockbuster dominated the market, those titles vanished.
Growing up the 1980s, the whole point of going to the local video store for my friends and I was to see weird, obscure/semi-obscure, good but unpopular films! At that time in the mid 1980s renting a newly released to video movie was expensive and not everyone could afford or wanted to. Why rent Back to the Future 2 or Top Gun newly released to video for $10 a night when you could rent five '70s Blaxploitation or low-budget Sci-Fantasy or Kung Fu classics for $3.99? I discovered many indie and foreign films on the dollar budget bins of my local video stores. It was a wonderful era for discovering film.
Channel Surfer should do a video of another independent company that Lionsgate acquired three years after Trimark Pictures. Artisan Entertainment, which was mentioned in this video.
Back in the day, there was Vestron Video, they put a series of movies on home video from different genres like B Movies, horror, comedy, and mostly family films, the only Vestron release was the original “My Little Pony: The Movie” from 1986. It bombed at the Box Office, and then later released on home video during that time the New York Mets won the World Series which was October 27, 1986. “Dirty Dancing” was another film produced by Vestron Pictures which was their in-house production company at the time.
Whore. A movie named Whore.... I don't remember that one, but it was a hit for Trimark.
Imagine if Baise Moi came out back then.
Warlock was kick ass...
TRAMOPOLINE! TRAMBOPLINE!!!
Ah thank you. I always wondered where the heck Kidmark came from and why it had that name. They were imfamous for being the first to release Star Blazers on VHS, but the tapes were apparently mastered through a cup of coffee or mud, or both. They didn't find sucess selling those tapes. But it wasn't clear to me why they existed at all. Now I get it. Thanks.
I remember Trimark movies- especially watching Warlock, the early Leprechauns and Dead-Alive on VHS. Thank you for this great video history!
Subscribed after the Touchstone video. Excited to see this pop up in my subscriptions! Excellent video. Keep em coming
Same this channel rules
Glad ur back! This is a great retrospective! Truly speaks to behind the scenes account nerd side 🤓 ❤ you should do Full Moon and Dimension Films in the future!
Thanks for this! Was great.
I first heard of Trimark thanks to the SNL VHS cassettes and DVDs in the late 1990s. I had no idea they had such a rich indy history?
Glad TH-cam algorithm recommended me this one!
I always think of the Leprechaun films when I see the Trimark logo
I bet kickboxer 2 was scarier than warlock 2
One of David Goyer’s first writing jobs.
4:41 “The Warehouse” was my video store.
I think they and some other retailers got in trouble for price fixing non-compete on CD pricing.
Great video, hope you can cover the rise and fall of Carolco someday
Thank you for including the Kohlhouse Video store advertisement from Vincennes, IN. They had a branch store in my hometown when I was a teenager.
Awesome video! Would love to see one on New Line Cinema or Cannon!
You would think their release of The Stoned Age would of saved the company. They played it on late night tv all the time.
"Every band puts out at least one P*$$* song, so they can find out who the F@66o#& are."
Another great video on obscure movie studios. You could do videos on Orion Films and Cannon Films. Not to be random or off topic but if you ever want to go back to doing defunct tv channels, can you do a documentary on The WB.
@@BlackMaleSpirituality for defunct channels, do one on Z Channel and Festival (HBO's short lived spinoff family channel from the 1980s) and over the air Pay Tv networks ONTV and SelecTv
Having lived in northern VA for ages, I'm particularly amused that your example for Blockbuster taking over the small chains was their acquisition of Erol's.
Renting movies wasn't QUITE as easy as checking out books from the library. Renting movies wasn't free.
Now movies ARE at libraries 😂
I remember them from the UFC tapes. Me and my buddies used to rent them all the time.
My buddy’s parents let us rent Warlock from our local little video store when we were about eight or nine. I don’t know what they were thinking. That movie scared the hell out of eight year old me
RIP Hometown Video and Tip-Top Video
That Act of Passion VHS box is hilarious
It's a long time between your video, but they a really good. Often, yours is the only video on the subjects you cover. Keep up the fine work.
1:34 Not totally correct. There's earlier examples - Sony's CV2000 goes back to 1965 and Philips produced the N1500 video format in Europe in 1972 - albeit with extortionate price tags.
$50 to buy forever or $10 for one night? Def best to buy!
Not if you were incredibly underwhelmed.
You could argue that Lionsgate is the end result of combining all the significant Movie Studios outside the Big 7 (Disney, Universal, Warner Brothers, Sony Pictures, Paramount, Netflix & Amazon MGM) into one major studio.
It was worth it for no commercials.
Honestly, that's a respectable start and finish to Trimark Pictures. Cool video! :)
Vidmark, Trimark, Live Entertainment, Artisan Entertainment, all absorbed into Lionsgate.
And don’t forget Vestron Video and eOne, these two are now part of Lionsgate. Hasbro did sold off eOne last year.
This was really great, you have a new subscriber!
RIP Julian Sands.
20/20 was one of the best vid stores ever. they had titles you couldnt find anywhere else and let you rent up to 20 vids at a time
Chairman of the Board, aka "Box Office Poison".
Great video! I never knew Trimark had such a deep history.
Long story short... the Leprechaun franchise went direct to video.
Of course, i remember Trimark. Anybody who grew up in the '90s, remembers Trimark. I mostly remember it, for the Leprechaun franchise, but wow, turns out i'd seen many movies, that i had no idea were Trimark films!! Btw, i consider Meet Wally Sparks to be a hugely underrated comedy gem. Anything with Rodney in it, is good, as far as I'm concerned. Would you consider covering the rise & fall of Tristar Pictures?
Great video…..keep up the good work!
dope vid, nicely done
Crocodile and the Shark Attack movies were consistent rentals.
makes me think of watching "Kicking and Screaming" with my brother in the 90s we both loved indie films
Amazing video. 👍
I remember that logo so clearly but for the life of me I could not list ANY movies under their house. Also as an 80's kid almost every video cassette I saw was 19.99 or less. Only a handful of very new, very popular videos sold for 24.95. So I have no clue what that 50 dollars a piece nonsense is about.
I think the "$50" ordeal is of the very early years of VHS when it wasn't a 'every home has a VHS player' format. By the time of the $19.95 videos, VHS tapes were popular and common. By then a company would have been committing financial seppuku if they were still selling tapes at $50 a pop.
Videos were priced primarily to sell directly to video stores through 1987, running between $60-$100 a tape. First studio jumping into “priced to own,” movies, tapes sold in retail stores, was the VHS release of “Top Gun” in 1987, which sold for $26.99 in a partnership with Pepsi, which covered some of the costs. After “Top Gun” became a million seller, the race was on to get the big blockbuster movies out for retail sales.
@@apexone5502they sold the tapes to the video store, who would make the $50 back by renting it out 12-15 times.
And by the power of this video, you gained a subscriber 🥳
Love this channel! would be cool to see a deep dive into companies like Starmaker, Feature Films for Families or maybe APIX
Decent doc. Felt a little longer, but good structure overall. You kept me interested all the way through. Even had me saying “So THAT’s what happened to them” late in the doc as opposed to way too early.
I will stay and watch more. Now, on it find out what happened to Touchtone Pictures…
When I was a kid, movies on home video didn't cost $80
Amazing writing bro. So convenient 👌🏼
Great video once again
love to see stuff like this
Incredible video, my type of stuff. Would love a video on the Downfall of Artisan! We covered Artisan and early Lions Gate Films on my podcast Almost Major and it's fascinating to me that Artisan had such a monster hit with Blair Witch Project and still was losing money.
Thank you! Artisan has been requested a few times and is on my list.
I bought and still have lots of the big box ex rental VHS I used to rent as a kid, I bought them when Super Video closed down :( .
Thanks!
Not mentioned: Lionsgate also bought out Artisan Entertainment.
Whoa, an American showing Rogers Video
Wonderful video. Educational
Really well done doc.
You should do monthly videos, tbh.
I’m a 90’s Kid, I have fond memories of TriMark
Excellent video!
I have a couple of ideas.
The Downfall of Paramount Classics
The Downfall of Destination Films
I remember you could also rent a VCR at the same stores. So if all you had was a TV, you could rent the cassette and the player. This must have been the early 80s.
VCR’s in the early 80s cost $400 (close to $1500 in today’s dollars) or more. A lot of people bought them rent to own, so I can see video stores getting in on that.
Can you recommend any good books on movie studios failings? It's quite interesting.
this brings back memories & i always wondered why it took forever for warlock to come to theatres because it was heavily advertised in the coming attractions on new world's videos. i finally saw it in a military theatre in ft. bragg.
Carrot Top got a movie contract ... oh, no!
Aww man .. most of these VHS covers are like takin in a big slice of nostalgia pie.... BUT 15:19 takes the cake.
I remember that COVER VIVIDLY. and to think it was made by Peter Jackson who is such a world renown director in 2024. I love these time period pieces but TH-cam videos about VHS and rentals touch a special part of my memory cuz wed always rent movies. Born in 1980 so i was alive for the inception and destruction of it all.
Like Vestron in the 80's, Trimark meant something out of the ordinary for me. Vestron could be our next topic.
Also, VHS, is short for Vertical Helical Scan
Or Video Home System.
Excellent video! I think you've found your niche.
Definitely do more
The Warlock franchise must return.
Trimark almost did make an TMNT Sequel film
VHS originated in Japan!?! Interesting.
Renting videos for $10 a night is outrageous...
VHS beat Betamax because of the tape runtime. You couldnt record an entire football game on betamax even though it had superior video quality. Format wars are wild.
When you say two thousands you mean the aughts.