Mike Bohn But the artifact gives you extra ammo. And if you're quick enough, you won't need ammo because you can just deflect the projectile right back at the shooter.
I do love that the reflection doesn't seem to be based on geometry/angles. It's pretty nice to be able to reflect projectiles in the direction of your choice
My friend and I noticed some things maintain the same properties. We saw that if you reflect a sunspot hammer with the overshield perk, it creates a sunspot and whoever reflected it can get an overshield from it.
The Axion Bolt behaves like a mosquito... And the sword is the Aerogard! On a serious note, once you reflect something, you are the 'owner' of it, correct? So a reflected Shadowshot will affect your enemies and not harm your teammates?
exactly, anybody complaining about situational use of reflecting stuff is seeming to gloss over the extra 20 sword ammo. With a heavy weapon class that FAR surpassed the others in terms of sheer volume of kills with full ammo, this only makes them more ridiculous and fun.
Hey Datto. Pretty sure you are aware of this but wanted to make sure you could mention it.. perhaps in your second video! Contrary to blocking. Deflecting takes up less ammo if the sword element matches the element of the attack. Nova bomb on dark drinker will use less ammo than on raze lighter and on bolt caster. Might be worth testing out and showing. Also might be why nova bomb ate your sword in one go (and dregs? you used it on raze lighter) I dont see many people talking about this and lots of people come here for accurate insight. :) Wanted to make sure you had it! Always appreciate the work you do! Thanks so much for everything!
You should have added all the NPCs abilities in the video as well. Also what a lot of people came here for is what projectiles bosses use that can be refected. Other than that it's a nice video, good job.
datto. if you wouldnt mind play volleyball with that artifact. like launch a nova bomb and keep deflecting it back and forth. I suggest you do this on the frontier map.ive been wanting to do it but I dont have friends and the artifact just got released. so yea
Cameron Russo Those arn't projectiles so no, also the wave smash thing on Fist of Havoc won't work because it is essentially the same case as the blade dancer's razer's edge wave attack
Isn't that going to eat up your ammo? Also I made that comment on my phone so the grammar looks like crap. I meant it is barely useful in PvP because you need ammo for it....
well that's not a projectile which is what the artifact makes swords reflect, might be able to tank it while blocking though if you're not using a solar sword
For the Crucible, no because you can tell if someone's sneaking up on you with a shotgun. And the enhanced radar makes it more precise about where everyone is. Plus it also points out Chest and Materials.
lol I loved the axion bolt grenade XD the same spinning thing happens if you sit down before it can hit you. However it will hover over your head until it runs out and explodes, still hurting you.
for those that don't know, in pve you can put increase sword capacity nodes on equipped the artifact then use a synth and get 101 ammo then swap back to damage nodes and change artifacts and you still have the 101 ammo
But... Could a Guardian reflect an energy attack toward another Guardian who is also using the artifact, and so on to make the ultimate trick-shot? Also, can you deflect energy attacks from teammates? And would the attack diminish in power?
Great vid!! Love the info. I think that private matches and mayhem will be a lot more interesting now. This is going to exponentially grow the amount of chaos in Mayhem now! Who'd a thunk it possible? lol
Suncharge and shoulder charge would be interesting to see. What will happen? Do you just regularly block the damage? Do they charge to a different direction? Can they be deflected and lead to a player killing someone else, especially a friendly player? This artefact definitly looks like a lot of fun! :D
2 things i want to see. 1) can you reflect a fist of havoc from above if you aim (reflect/block?) straight up? probably not but i would still like to see 2) can you get multiple volleys from projectiles? say multiple people had a sword with the artifact on, can they just bounce it back and forth until someone runs out of ammo?
i would not be surprised if they brought back his sword as an exotic. and his perk would be some OP monster like if you have his artifact equipped , reflection doesnt consume ammo
Hey Datto you should do something where all 12 people in a private match have this artifact and you try to bounce a nova bomb back and forth between everyone, or at the very least test out if nova bombs can be reflected multiple times
Thanks! Can't wait for the pve one. I also notice that the sword seems to be boosted. I once clutch blocked a golden gun shot but I got stunned, lost all my ammo and 99% of my HP, which is not the case here.
You should test if nothing manacles affect the outcome of the reflected projectile. As in you reflect it and the warlock throwing it has nothing manacles.
Now the real question is: Can it reflect fireteam's abilities? For example could I use my sword to deflect an teammates golden gun into an enemy? That would be super strategic lol.
ok Datto, I had this idea yesterday. I don't know if it has been posted earlier, but what about a Raid Challenge Mode where the only Boss damage is reflected attacks? It could start as only hostile attacks, or you could make it easier and bounce frienldly G-Horn rockets or supers off a teammate
So can you shoot your own teammates sword? It looks like tether would be a lot easier to aim
CammyCakes Gaming omg i found on a old video
Clammy is so creative
@@ferrentepistach8657 clammy lol
BUT can two swords play ping pong with a rocket tho
THIS IS THE RIGHT QUESTION
Daryll W Omg I can't wait for the popular streamers to stream that "game type "
Daryll W fruit is probably gonna make a mini game out of that, I need that artifact!
Daryll W Don't think so. One will eventually run out of ammo but until then, I assume so.
look at the video on my channel called how to play tennis with swords...don't have to subscribe or Whatever just have a look
i willing to bet you did more testing than they did
no doubt, if they had they would realize how useless it really is..........
Useless?! Seems pretty usefully to me if you can reflect nova bomb. Even a bubble can't do that.
Seems more pve oriented to me
serendipity 127 it blocked a shadow shot , one golden gun bullet and one a hammer of sol hammers and a arc blade . Its pretty good
cletus2941 the amount of fun people will have with this in private matches is insane
Axion bolt: "I'ma getcha! I'm a getcha! I'm a getcha! GOTCHA!"
Is That A Pro Genji ?
I miss the old Genji
The four gold Genji
The...
lol I knew something reminded me of genji 😂
...eight second ult Genji
Nah....RIP Tripple jump!
lmao
Man, this is OP!! It blocks and deflects almost ALL supers?? Well, we have a new meta!
Keep in mind that you do need heavy ammo for this to work, so it should only be bad in ib.
Not even. Did you see how much ammo a single deflection takes?
+XboxCODrocks still only once a round. maybe op in mayhem
Mike Bohn But the artifact gives you extra ammo. And if you're quick enough, you won't need ammo because you can just deflect the projectile right back at the shooter.
#FistofHavocMeta
the funniest one was the axion bolt and it swirled around you saying uuhhh then no
This was one of my favorite videos you have ever put out.
the salute at 3:45 killed me 😂😂👌
Sucrose Mother z
I do love that the reflection doesn't seem to be based on geometry/angles.
It's pretty nice to be able to reflect projectiles in the direction of your choice
Can't wait for someone to make a minigame out if this. Lol
THEx1x1 Gaming Ping pong?
Deadman's Volley anyone? :)
with Void lancer as the ball
ill make a mini game :D who wants to hear it,
Me
My friend and I noticed some things maintain the same properties. We saw that if you reflect a sunspot hammer with the overshield perk, it creates a sunspot and whoever reflected it can get an overshield from it.
I want a mayhem mode with unlimited heavy ammo! Nova pong on Banner fall!
Michael Yater probably a way to do that in custom games
Idk how
You cant keep it going infinitly cuz you will run out of sword ammo
that's why it be fun to set ammo amounts on custom game modes. unlimited heavy infinite sword play
Use Bolt Caster instead. It takes away only 1 ammo. Done.
Datto you the man, heard on twitch about reflecting with the sword, didn't know anything about it, then you already have a video up. Keep it up bro.
The Axion Bolt behaves like a mosquito...
And the sword is the Aerogard!
On a serious note, once you reflect something, you are the 'owner' of it, correct?
So a reflected Shadowshot will affect your enemies and not harm your teammates?
Yes.
You're definitely the most thorough Destiny TH-camr out there. Thanks for putting in the time an effort, Datto.
This thing is nice to have JUST for the sword ammo carrying benefit alone.
exactly, anybody complaining about situational use of reflecting stuff is seeming to gloss over the extra 20 sword ammo. With a heavy weapon class that FAR surpassed the others in terms of sheer volume of kills with full ammo, this only makes them more ridiculous and fun.
Hey Datto. Pretty sure you are aware of this but wanted to make sure you could mention it.. perhaps in your second video! Contrary to blocking. Deflecting takes up less ammo if the sword element matches the element of the attack. Nova bomb on dark drinker will use less ammo than on raze lighter and on bolt caster.
Might be worth testing out and showing. Also might be why nova bomb ate your sword in one go (and dregs? you used it on raze lighter)
I dont see many people talking about this and lots of people come here for accurate insight. :) Wanted to make sure you had it!
Always appreciate the work you do! Thanks so much for everything!
that's funny how hard light doesn't reflect. isn't its exotic perk to reflect on hard surfaces and shit??
Joshua Park but the sword shield isn't a surface it's well a bullet sponge and genji reflect with the relic
plus it has over penetration on the rounds as well.
Joshua Park it overpenetrates
the swords are made of pudding
on the newest pd podcast i heard datto was working on a xur video during destiny con. good job. bc you are the number 1 source of destiny info
also the real question is.... can you kill golgoroth using the sword reflect?..
Lol
thanks for taking the time to make and post a video because I was wondering about that artifact
Would it reflect the Captains' cannon blasts from the Aksis encounter? That'd be VERY useful to know.
"THIS IS AMAZING!!!" -Lord Shaxx
Lmao I love how the axion bolt just broke the game for a second
Damn near the funniest destiny video I've seen in a while
Easily the funniest vid I've ever seen lol
You've been living under a rock then haven't you
Lol no. I just haven't seen that many hilarious vids like that.
I have never seen somebody with that sense of humor
I found it funny just imagining the reactions my friends would have to me using a sword like this.
This was the video I was waiting for a long time.
Might be the counter to rocket launchers in crucible I've been waiting for.
You should have added all the NPCs abilities in the video as well. Also what a lot of people came here for is what projectiles bosses use that can be refected. Other than that it's a nice video, good job.
IS a destiny death pong possible like in overwatch?
i would hope so, but the biggest problem seems to be sword ammo since a lance nova takes about 50 ammo away
That really limits it. What about for bouncy grenades? I know their smaller but considering each team can have 6 players, it should be feasible
This was so entertaining to watch XD such good details thanks datto!
Mr fruit needs to do a tennis style game with this
Ammo would run out too quickly
Make it mayhem then
Hector Vallejos You would only be able to pass your "tennis ball" back and forth like 2 times before you have to wait until heavy comes.
TheGreenerish Lance only takes away 1-2 ammo per hit.
Love the salute at 3.50. Perfect timing.
datto. if you wouldnt mind play volleyball with that artifact. like launch a nova bomb and keep deflecting it back and forth. I suggest you do this on the frontier map.ive been wanting to do it but I dont have friends and the artifact just got released. so yea
I think that a rocket would be a better candidate for the ball.
the problem with that is that the rocket goes straight. you would need something to act as a ball so it would need to come back down.
It uses a lot of sword ammo to reflect something
Ivan Oid Nova Bomb takes only 1-2 per deflect
That Golden Gun reflect made me jump in excitement. That was amazing!
I wonder if you reflect a guided rocket in to the air, will it come back to you?
It didn't even start to come back with Truth, so I would guess no.
nah he shows Truth being reflected back at the shooter, same as Gjallahorn. both have tracking.
Demo Nic But would they track the enemy or nah? Couldn't really tell from those.
We don't know whether they locked on in this test though.
I know I'm like half a year late, but no. Despite truth's insane tracking it still can't do a 180° turn
I've been waiting for this artifact ever since it was revealed!
fist of havoc, aftermath, and what ever the wave is on fist of havoc???
that doesnt mean it cant, you migt as well test it
Cameron Russo Those arn't projectiles so no, also the wave smash thing on Fist of Havoc won't work because it is essentially the same case as the blade dancer's razer's edge wave attack
lol what if FoH made the whole titan a projectile and you could reflect him back at his team, that would be so funny
One of the coolest videos from Datto!
But you can only block if it has ammo so only useful if enemies are using Rocket Launchers really and you got heavy ammo with you really....
pve....? Imagine reflecting those boss projectiles back at the boss.
Valus cabal strike on mars
Zsolt The Gamer Kovik's ogre eye blast weapon?
Isn't that going to eat up your ammo? Also I made that comment on my phone so the grammar looks like crap. I meant it is barely useful in PvP because you need ammo for it....
They should add Special Swords into the game that are less powerful but can still deflect.
Loved the incendiary grenade salute. Dignified until the end.
Can you reflect a reflected nova bomb?
That was the first thing they showed
0:15
Good stuff. Fun stuff.
Did you ever watch the first 15 seconds?
Jin Zhang it's like playing death tennis 🎾
Incendiary Grenade part had me rollin! The whole salute before burning out just did it for me lol
does the same work for legendary swords?
Juan Herrera probably
Yeah, it doesn't have to be an exotic sword. Just equip any sword, and block with the artifact equipped, and it'll work.
+Sailor Saturn | Might as well test it. A few things I didn't expect to be reflected, were.
well that's not a projectile which is what the artifact makes swords reflect, might be able to tank it while blocking though if you're not using a solar sword
Good info video, enjoyed that. It was very informative. Keep up the good work
why do I feel baseball game modes will spawn from this...?
[Nova Bomb sound, reflect sound follows] "AAAAAGH!"
Quite possibly the best series of sounds ever.
And now I feel stupid for getting Memory of Gheleon.
You're not, gheleon is still good. Personally I am getting gheleon for normal usage and radegast for some fun
Sean Cave what does Gheleon's artifact do?
Grants Third Eye for all guns and Enhanced Radar.
Fireboy Seems useless
For the Crucible, no because you can tell if someone's sneaking up on you with a shotgun. And the enhanced radar makes it more precise about where everyone is. Plus it also points out Chest and Materials.
Not going to lie... I was laughing through most of that! great video Datto!
3:47 I like how he waves then just dies 😂😂
Great. Just beautiful. You have to test to see how long you can reflect a nova bomb
anybody else laugh throughout the video?
4:01
Xentricityy88 yup
Xentricityy88 hell yea... i found this vid to be both funny and informational
the incendiary grenade salute slayed me. great moment.
Good thing I use shatter nova bomb
Love this video btw !
same here
johann gonzalez too bad its the easiest shot to dodge
Allen Shamm nobody ever dodges mine lol
+johann gonzalez don't lie
Awesome video Datto. Lots of amazing info
I will definitely need this in beyond light
lol I loved the axion bolt grenade XD the same spinning thing happens if you sit down before it can hit you. However it will hover over your head until it runs out and explodes, still hurting you.
Great compilation, thanks for doing this!
Looks like Datto enlightened us to the new go-to artifact for sword users
for those that don't know, in pve you can put increase sword capacity nodes on equipped the artifact then use a synth and get 101 ammo then swap back to damage nodes and change artifacts and you still have the 101 ammo
hey datto, nice vid! keep up the good work man
Thanks a lot Datto! I was wondering about this myself!!!
That Axion Bolt have a mind of its own, this prove it even more
that's crazy !! thanks for taking the time to figure this out .
Wasn't gonna buy that one this time, now I definitely will.
That was awesome how you put that together. I just got that artifact. Knowing is half the battle
Great video...3:40 Incendiary Grenade was damn funny!
But...
Could a Guardian reflect an energy attack toward another Guardian who is also using the artifact, and so on to make the ultimate trick-shot?
Also, can you deflect energy attacks from teammates? And would the attack diminish in power?
that axon bolt though. it's like I'm going to get you I'm going to get you.
Great vid!! Love the info. I think that private matches and mayhem will be a lot more interesting now. This is going to exponentially grow the amount of chaos in Mayhem now! Who'd a thunk it possible? lol
Suncharge and shoulder charge would be interesting to see.
What will happen? Do you just regularly block the damage? Do they charge to a different direction? Can they be deflected and lead to a player killing someone else, especially a friendly player? This artefact definitly looks like a lot of fun! :D
Awesome video man i could see you guys on live tv doing that
once again great video, thanks for doing what you do
thank you for uploading another fantastic vid
Please make another Exotic Tier list for all the Nerfed/Buffed exotics and the new ones too!
3:49 is by far the best part of this video. Perfect timing. haha beauty
2 things i want to see.
1) can you reflect a fist of havoc from above if you aim (reflect/block?) straight up? probably not but i would still like to see
2) can you get multiple volleys from projectiles? say multiple people had a sword with the artifact on, can they just bounce it back and forth until someone runs out of ammo?
one of your best videos. thanks!
So any projectile weapons. Cool.
Since most people don't know that energy often means projectile in Destiny, felt like pointing this out.
Your videos are awesome Datto hahahaha, i loved the orbiting Axion Bolt xD
Satisfaction factor much higher than it should be.
Now that we know that it can deflect the smoke grenade it would be cool to know how an invisibility smoke grenade would work after deflecting it.
i would not be surprised if they brought back his sword as an exotic. and his perk would be some OP monster like if you have his artifact equipped , reflection doesnt consume ammo
Hey Datto you should do something where all 12 people in a private match have this artifact and you try to bounce a nova bomb back and forth between everyone, or at the very least test out if nova bombs can be reflected multiple times
i used toto-africa as my music of choice. i must say, very fitting. thanks for the vid :)
That's so cool. I wish I could excited about this again.i remember when this first came out
Can confirm shadowshot works as well. Actually tethers enemies as well.
That axiom bolt was adorable
Great video! Thanks for the useful information
I may actually get that artifact now. Very helpful vid.
Thanks! Can't wait for the pve one.
I also notice that the sword seems to be boosted.
I once clutch blocked a golden gun shot but I got stunned, lost all my ammo and 99% of my HP, which is not the case here.
You should test if nothing manacles affect the outcome of the reflected projectile. As in you reflect it and the warlock throwing it has nothing manacles.
Now the real question is: Can it reflect fireteam's abilities? For example could I use my sword to deflect an teammates golden gun into an enemy? That would be super strategic lol.
Queenbreaker's Bow surprised me. I wonder what the internal logic behind that is.
Also, you can deflect the scorch cannons ( or at least tanks)
WE HAVE A COUNTER FOR HAMMER OF SOL IN CRUCIBLE JESUS TAKE THE WHEEEEEEEEEEEL
This artifact could make some cool custom games, like baseball or something
Great video! I didn't have time to test it myself this morning. Can't wait for the PVE vid :)
ok Datto, I had this idea yesterday. I don't know if it has been posted earlier, but what about a Raid Challenge Mode where the only Boss damage is reflected attacks? It could start as only hostile attacks, or you could make it easier and bounce frienldly G-Horn rockets or supers off a teammate