I actually wanted to see this one myself tbh cause someone did jagdtiger vs original M1 hull armor and it actually made it all the way to the back plate and even dented it. Full bore AP of significant caliber seems to be shockingly effective against composite armor. Pretty damn sure the 279 will pen.
I will admit as a T95/T28 driver I would still not only try take on a P1000 but even if I did get penned/vaporized I would likely first blame my angle rather than my armors weakness. For a T95/T28 driver knows in their heart that so long as everything shooting at you is in front of you, you are nigh invincible.
can you possibly do the P1000 RATTE vs HMS Inflexible? fire at the sides of the hull at an angle to try to ricochet, or maybe shoot dead center into the bow to stop the shell?
It's the 283mm L/54.5, which had about 600mm of pen at 500m which is considered point blank range for naval guns. Btw, the range of a Naval gun is so much that the penetration can drop down to 1/6 or even less( depending how much range the gun has)of the point blank number.
@@BoBo-pl3ww yeah a "large boulder the size of a small boulder" is very good xd. or an "asteroid half the size of a giraffe", like i don't even think you could find an animal more disproportional when halved than a giraffe
According to german Fireeffect tables [Unterlagen zur Bestimmung der Hauptkampfentfernung und Geschosswahl, Heft g Schlachtschiffe Gneisenau und Scharnhorst] the 28 cm Psgr L/4,4 zu 330 kg would defeat 320 mm Facehardened armour at about 510 m/s.
If there is a question I have about T95 it would be - whose bright idea was NOT reusing M6 engines on it? It was right there!(read in Astarion's voice)
I think if it would be sent to frontlines it would receive engine upgrade almost surely. We have a survivor bias going on with these prototype vehicles where people assume it would surely remain in the configuration it had during pre-trials, while we know from development of almost every other tank (that entered actual service) that this is not the case
@@czwarty7878 you do not really need a better mobility in the role it was designed for. after all a bunker isn'T going to retreat or run away, and you are also likely not going to advance even at it's blazing fast 13 km/h top speed
@@o-hogameplay185 1)it needs said mobility to get into position instead of being defeated by a hill; 2)sabotaged mobility was the reason it failed trials in the first place. Someone wanted it to fail on purpose.
@@czwarty7878 However it wouldn't be on the frontlines because it'll fail trials due to same mobility and reliability being insufficient and dragging development for too long. M6 was right there, unused, they took other parts from it, but not the most obvious one. Because with that engine it would be able to do the trials without overloading and overheating and thus wouldn't waste time.
According to german Fireeffect tables [Unterlagen zur Bestimmung der Hauptkampfentfernung und Geschosswahl, Heft g Schlachtschiffe Gneisenau und Scharnhorst] the 28 cm Psgr L/4,4 zu 330 kg would defeat 320 mm Facehardened armour at about 510 m/s 6,5 degrees obliquity without damage to the projectile. There must be somethig wrong with the simulation.
Would still pass right through. Pre-war test firing by Krupp (with RPC/32 propellent which had been replaced with the more powerful RPC/38 by the start of the war) with KC armor with an impact angle of 70 degrees had the round penetrate 348mm at 10km.
Was a oopsie, it was supposed to be a soft steel but I used the same hard steel as the projectile which meant it could easily fracture. The pin is basically where the inside explosives are ignited.
Apparently German songs are copyrighted so I had to change the music 3 times lol.
💀
The standard HOI music adds a lot imo
It’s like a blast to the past when I played the game with sound on
What about old German songs?
I know Erica and westerwald aren’t
@@America_Thunder Actually youtube told me erika was this other song and thusly was copyrighted. :)))
You know shit is real when the round is almost as wide as the armor is thick
You read my mind 😂
i thought the same thing
“Target Destroyed”
5000 SL 300 RP
and -5000 SL for every Shell fired
No, a tiny portion of the shell would hit another bit of the armor, and instead of that you'd get "hit"
@@GloriG_C17I guess I’m 7 trillion in debt now
There was NO resistance. 💀
violated💀
Lol what do you expect from an 11 inch shell
The round had like 600mm of pen iirc so yeah lmao.
dawg the round is almost as thick as the armor
What can you say? It’s was made to penetrate naval ships.
The base fuse pinging around inside the burster cavity is funny.
Yes, it indeed is.
Ha
Ha
Ha.
Hardy har har har har har har!!!!1!1!1!1!
“Ech! A roach! Stomp it!”
**slap sfx**
Yea I'm still gonna need a witness plate to be sure.
pretty sure the next tank would be the witness plate
The shell barely noticed...
Could you do the
130mm BR-482B round from the Object 279 vs the lower front plate of the first M1 Abrams?
Will be done but youre gonna have to wait a few days
I actually wanted to see this one myself tbh cause someone did jagdtiger vs original M1 hull armor and it actually made it all the way to the back plate and even dented it.
Full bore AP of significant caliber seems to be shockingly effective against composite armor. Pretty damn sure the 279 will pen.
@@RedVRCCwill be funny if we go back to full AP to defeat composite
honestly what the fuck was i expecting
"hit"
"non-penetration"
“Target undamaged”
“Temporarily invulnerable”
Sheer battlecruiser round vs assault gun optimized for 5 inch protection= absolutely no match
T95 armor: I will stop any tank shell of my time.
Projectile P.1000: what kind of armor?
"Ricochet"
"Hit 5sl 1rp"
That is literally a naval shell from a heavy cruiser gun... It was built to penetrate even more armour than that
Ratte is using same guns as the Scharnhorst. Deutschland class had 28cm but "only" L52 not 54.5
@@christians.597wasn't the cannon pulled from the Bismark? Does the sharnhorst share the same cannon? I don't think it would.
@@BoBo-pl3ww nah, as far as i know every concept had 2x28cm gun
@@BoBo-pl3wwbismarck have 380 mm gun
Would be cool to do more naval simulations, since that's basically what this is lol.
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
I will admit as a T95/T28 driver I would still not only try take on a P1000 but even if I did get penned/vaporized I would likely first blame my angle rather than my armors weakness. For a T95/T28 driver knows in their heart that so long as everything shooting at you is in front of you, you are nigh invincible.
The problem is P1000 is so tall it basically can shoot at your upper armor like no problem
@@refrain4155 Absolutely true but then again the "I'm the fucking Doom Turtle" mentality is strong even if more than hopeless.
@@refrain4155 the real problem is the ratte would never exist in the first place
Why do yall think that tank is scary? I can hit the cupola with my Tiger 2 at like 300 meters
The shell rlly said, “get tf out my way”
can you possibly do the P1000 RATTE vs HMS Inflexible? fire at the sides of the hull at an angle to try to ricochet, or maybe shoot dead center into the bow to stop the shell?
Oh ma lord that goes right through
Netflix: are you still watching?
Someone's daughter:
"Target, 800 meters!"
"Roger that, removing 800 meters and 305 millimeters of nothing"
Please make a P1000 Ratte shell Vs M1A2 SEP V4 Abrams turret cheek
Aint that classified?
@@Rumpelpumpel3 never doubt on war thunder players capabilities...
@@MALUquinhaathen go get us the fucking doccuments
The music in these videos is always top notch
I have got an idea….what about battleship armour , I think it’s around 300+ mm on the ships
"THE GUNNER IS UNCONSCIOUS" 🗣️🔥
"Target undamaged" ahhh impact
That's basically a heavy cruiser weapon shooting at a tank. No simulation needed to know how it ends 😂
Anyone else getting Hearts of Iron 4 vibes? Not just cuz of the music, but because of the content to? WW2 era tanks and such.
I would have had it hit the mantlet section so we could see its reaction to that and the armor behind it
"Screen not penetrated"
Hard to model
That's 20 inches of armor. Spaced? Don't know what the gap is.
It would be interesting to see how much armor it would take to actually stop that round.
It's the 283mm L/54.5, which had about 600mm of pen at 500m which is considered point blank range for naval guns. Btw, the range of a Naval gun is so much that the penetration can drop down to 1/6 or even less( depending how much range the gun has)of the point blank number.
66,653,077 ft/lb of kinetic energy delivered on target
americans trying to avoid using the metric at all costs
@@o-hogameplay185cry about it. We like to use school buses and football fields to measure things.
@@BoBo-pl3ww yeah a "large boulder the size of a small boulder" is very good xd.
or an "asteroid half the size of a giraffe", like i don't even think you could find an animal more disproportional when halved than a giraffe
Lets make ratte-gun vs t95 gun mask+305mm of armour.
Incidentally, that armour is what it was designed to penetrate
No way a battleship gun ap round penetrated a tanks front plate. Crazy world we live in would have never guessed it!
Not to mention there's now multiple pounds of explosives linked to a timed fuse inside the tank
bruh no way i thought T95 has plot armor
Gaijin: Best I can do is 'shell shattered'
the shell didnt even know the armor was there
reminds me of that demo ranch video where they shot at a lead block with a 50 bmg
“Our driver is unconscious!”
Idea: l3 with pure Stalinium armor vs p1000 ratte shell
It's a Battleship caliber Naval round, no amount of Russian Bias is gonna stop that.
@@hadiomidi4829 the power of stalin
That one bounced.
Armor ? What Armor ?
-p1000 Ratte
According to german Fireeffect tables [Unterlagen zur Bestimmung der Hauptkampfentfernung und Geschosswahl, Heft g Schlachtschiffe Gneisenau und Scharnhorst] the 28 cm Psgr L/4,4 zu 330 kg would defeat 320 mm Facehardened armour at about 510 m/s.
Pickup/semi truck going 120mph vs l3
The Music:☺☕
The Video:💀💀💥💣
Best American superheavy tank destroyer
VS
Average German engineering school project
Now i know if bismarck fired at the T28 super heavy Tank it would go streight trough
iirc that round had like 600mm+ of pen which is more than a lot of earlier apfsds rounds.
Can you please add a spall liner next time I can’t tell if there was any shrapnel damage
If there is a question I have about T95 it would be - whose bright idea was NOT reusing M6 engines on it? It was right there!(read in Astarion's voice)
I think if it would be sent to frontlines it would receive engine upgrade almost surely. We have a survivor bias going on with these prototype vehicles where people assume it would surely remain in the configuration it had during pre-trials, while we know from development of almost every other tank (that entered actual service) that this is not the case
@@czwarty7878 you do not really need a better mobility in the role it was designed for. after all a bunker isn'T going to retreat or run away, and you are also likely not going to advance even at it's blazing fast 13 km/h top speed
@@o-hogameplay185
1)it needs said mobility to get into position instead of being defeated by a hill;
2)sabotaged mobility was the reason it failed trials in the first place.
Someone wanted it to fail on purpose.
@@czwarty7878
However it wouldn't be on the frontlines because it'll fail trials due to same mobility and reliability being insufficient and dragging development for too long. M6 was right there, unused, they took other parts from it, but not the most obvious one. Because with that engine it would be able to do the trials without overloading and overheating and thus wouldn't waste time.
Ey! What about the kaboom afterwards?!? That's APHE right there!
Takes too long to sim
Oh no...our turtle... it's broken
Warthunder on their way to make this shell bounce off of viewing ports
According to german Fireeffect tables [Unterlagen zur Bestimmung der Hauptkampfentfernung und Geschosswahl, Heft g Schlachtschiffe Gneisenau und Scharnhorst] the 28 cm Psgr L/4,4 zu 330 kg would defeat 320 mm Facehardened armour at about 510 m/s 6,5 degrees obliquity without damage to the projectile. There must be somethig wrong with the simulation.
Well, that is going to hurt somebody inside.......
Now, does the shell come out on the other side of the tank?
next try P1000 Ratte vs any tank but use T-34 driver hatch as addon armor
It will only "unconscious" the driver and commander in war thunder
I wonder what would happen if the armour wasn't just RHA or Cast Steel but KCA (Krupp Cemented Armour
Would still pass right through. Pre-war test firing by Krupp (with RPC/32 propellent which had been replaced with the more powerful RPC/38 by the start of the war) with KC armor with an impact angle of 70 degrees had the round penetrate 348mm at 10km.
different type of composite (rubber, glass, textolite, ceramic, alumunium etc) vs apfsd
Guys, dont worry. T95 just need to repair cannon 30 seconds😂😂
Little people know that the t-95 had composite armor
Wrong t95
Doom turtle became doomed turtle
How about comparison of Panzerbüchse 35 full lead round and tungsten cored round?
“Shell shattered”
and then the probably 300kg explosive inside would turn the tutel into a fucking nuke to all infantry around it.
"only" 7.2 kg
I think the logical conclusion from this is the p1000 ratte is a good design and should have been produced
Nah its hull is too huge for a tank..., the Allies would rather send bombers instead of tanks
@@ayano_kisaragi_1939 really?
@@KingAlpha4108 Yea..., even the German Weaponry Minister, Albert Speer said Build the Ratte is "a waste of resources"
Penetrated like the tank was wet for the round.
"Yes a hit!"
Музыка из игры: Медаль за Отвагу...
Nah, id win
…Gonna need a witness plate just to be sure
could you do Challenger 2 LFP vs t34s 85mm or shermans 76mm
Who could have guessed a very small battleship shell can penetrate 305mm or armor with ease at, I don't know, 1~2km maybe?
800m
No witness plate...... the crew could have survived........
(settle gents, it's called a joke)
and suddenly doom tuttel became FAB5000
World of Tanks: "That was a ricochet"...
0:12 OOOOOAAAAAHHHH
A little scare for the crew.
"What did you even expect?
Obviously it should've bounced.
Next is .50 bmg VS sheet of paper?)))
Whats this pin inside the round and why would it simply fall off?
Was a oopsie, it was supposed to be a soft steel but I used the same hard steel as the projectile which meant it could easily fracture. The pin is basically where the inside explosives are ignited.
Couldn't they just agree to go back to 37mm shells and 20mm armor plates? It was the same but cheaper.
What's the muzzle energy of such projectile
Funny fact. 280mm gun on tank is just pure Hitler fantasy, but on sea its just smallest BB gun 😎
hi,please do kwk 39 l60( pzgr 39) vs M4A3 front armor, thank you
Yo can you do tiger II upper front plate hitting E100 upper front plate at 69 thousand km/h?
Pls test this shell against the T-34 drivers viewport please
do this shell vs m1a2 abrams frontal armor
No ballistic cap on that 28cm shell? Why?
Slows down the sim
little bit more angeling and it will be bounce
Now chair vs L3
PAK 44 vs T29 mantlet
Battleship gun vs tutel
In war thunder
*HIT*
Red driver.
Could You make a simulation, vhat happens if Königtiger fires to T72..?
Oh hey a new viewport!
HIT 🗣️🔥
Same energy as 9mm vs 1mm of steel