I called into blackpool air rifles 2 weeks ago to pick up a tin of pellets, and ended walking out with a katran c , I've got to say its the best air rifle I've ever had ,all 18 pellets through a 5p pence group @ 25 metres , Lloyd and Sean @ blackpool air rifles are a great set of lads, friendly and a good laugh 👍
Nice one Sean, that's what I'd have done (buying either a Krait or an Uragan Compact), if I could afford more than the few tins of pellets I bought. 🤣 Great choice though. Cheers. Russ
Thanks Lloyd and yep this rifle's awesome, Steve added a transfer port restricter (from CDRGuns) and lightened the hammer spring a tad, lowering the power to 11.5 & increasing the shot count to 100. 👌 Cheers. Russ
They are super smooth, accurate ,light weight, great mags with 18shot capacity in 177 and not overly expensive. I love it and think it is better looking than the Krait 😉
Oh they're perhaps slightly more attractive in a conventional sense, but with my mobility issues the Krait's compact size / high performance is amazing! Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
This is a sweet folding rifle, available in different lengths -and you can even detach the reservoir (which includes the reg'). This means you can have one cylinder for sub-12, and one for FAC. Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222Pleasure watching your very informative video and thanks for responding. I'm more convinced now that this rifle offers more and is of at least similar build quality (perhaps better) than the AA TDR
I should receive a standard (compact) one today or tomorrow, from CDR Guns for review in Airgun World and here on my channel. :) ...plus Stuart of @Vermin_Control_Scotland will be receiving an L model Krait next week from CDR Guns, so we'll then meet-up to compare them side-by-side and of course test them on a rat shoot. :D All the best, cheers. Russ
Morning Russell, great review, AirMaks are definitely one of the better brands, I've fallen for them big time,, customer service is amazing, quality of build is sublime, I recently reviewed the new Caiman X on my channel & the wedding date has been set lol 😁, thanks for the honest balanced review, Best Regards, Jon 👍, Hawkes eye TV 👍
Thanks very much Jonathan, yep I've found the same -am currently reviewing the superb compact new Krait bullpup, one sweet rifle. 👌 I'll checkout your channel and reviews. 🤓 All the best, cheers. Russ
Can't be C for cylinder given the SC and B and L and XHP also have a cylinder. It's C for compact and the SC is short compact etc. So which is best out of the Katran or the Krait?
From Chris @ CDR Guns... SC= Sub compact C = Compact CB = Compact Bottle BLANK = Std Cylinder B = Std Bottle L=Long (Cylinder) LB = Long Bottle ...and there's no better or worse, they're both excellent so it's personal taste, but being disabled I prefer compact bullpups as they're more portable, so the Krait's the one I prefer. 👌🤓 Cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 I'm in two minds whether to get a Katran or Krait or even a Brocock Pathfinder. I can't understand why Airmaks didn't design the Katran with the trigger dropped lower and or the magazine holder higher, to enable the barrel and magazine holder to come back further to where the cocking lever is, just as many bullpups do, which could have either made the Katrans more compact.
@@MrRockstar1968 The Katran is not a bullpup, that's why it's configured as it is. The Krait is a dedicated bullpup design. I went for the Krait myself as I love its compact layout. Cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 The Brocock Pathfinder also isn't a bullpup yet it is designed with the pellet magazine flush with the cocking lever which also allows the barrel to be situated further back to enable more compactness. My point is that the Kataran has a folding stock to enable it to be more compact and that they could have redesigned the positioning of the pellet magazine and barrel to enable it to be even more compact. For example the Katran SC has a 230mm barrel and is 448mm long without the stock, yet the Borcock Pathfinder has a longer 256mm barrel yet is 416mm with the stock folded down, which is 32mm shorter than the Katran SC. This enables the Brocock Pathfinder to be even more backpack friendly. That this is due to the positioning of the pellet magazine and barrel etc, which Armarks could have done with the Katran had they repositioned the magazine slot and barrel, etc. They could have potentially got the Katran SC down to 375mm and the Katran C down to 455mm with the stock folded which would have most certainly appealed to me even more. So due to these few inches in length I'm torn between the Brocock Pathfinder and the Katran CB. Keeping in mind a silencer may need to be added too which adds a few inches to the length. If the Katran was that few inches shorter whilst maintaining the barrel length due to repositioning then I would have purchased that one immediately without question.
@@MrRockstar1968 It's entirely up to Brocock and AirMaks how they design their rifles, then it's your personal choice to buy whichever you prefer. 🤷🏻♂️ ...which is why I bought a Krait, when some folk buy a Katran or a Pathfinder. You should visit a gunshop and handle both (ideally including several different models of the Katran), then simply decide which you refer. 🤓
Sorry Patrick when I reviewed this I just used 8.44grain / 4.52mm JSB Exact Diabolos. I do have some new H&N slugs (three weights) from John Rothery Wholesalers, which I'll be testing soon in my .177" FAC Maverick Compact. Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Great rifle ....and what a decent guy you are ....no surprise there but worth mentioning as too much negativity about these days. Looks a great club too with members who really enjoy and appreciate shooting. Awesome vlog. Q. Is the rifle available in fac ? Thanks and be safe 🙏🦉
Thanks very much Gary, I'm always honest in my reviews and articles, so no turds are polished but also I bring you as much detail as possible, and rifles like this are filled with pros and a joy to review (as you saw). Yep, Steve purchased this carbine from Jim at Crawley Surplus Store, and FAC versions are available. Although you won't want to fit the transfer port reducer as Steve did to improve air efficiency (supplied by Chris at UK importer CDRGuns) -if going down the FAC route. All the best, cheers. Russ
Hi Russ Another great review, while I'm not a "tactical" look fan. This is appealing. Like the ability to adjust virtually everything for a perfect fit. With the length of pull, it looks like a single bar, so when it's extended, does it twist slightly (loose)? And, importantly, can the rifle be fired with the stock folded? Obviously this would fall foul of our 12ft ruling, as it'd technically become a pistol? The Hugget moderator suits the looks too 👍 Regards Snowflake 2
Yep absolutely, and nope it's twin bars that the butt pad extends on (so no twist), plus the pad itself can adjust up and down. I extended the LOP to 375mm for my gangly arms: perfick! 👌 Oh it's fully legal, fear not. Yep my Huggett mini-Magna mod was a perfect choice for this rifle, and coincidentally is the same one Steve purchased. Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Did you ever find out what people are getting in terms of shot count fella? I'm interested but not if it's all out of steam after two magazines or so,, I'd be wanting at least 75 full power shots per fill for my money
Steve after some fine-tuning on the hammer spring and adding a transfer port reducer, was getting 90 shots @11.6ft/lbs. He passed-on that "@sub-12 airgunners" have a tuning video where they increased that to 120 shots (th-cam.com/video/-X81Bwva0iU/w-d-xo.html), impressive from such a compact rifle. Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Hi Tony, quoting from my Airgun World article "Airmaks Arms Katran C inc’ one mag £1,275 - from Jim at Crawley Surplus Store". Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 thanks Russ,I've looked on BAR site they have a second hand one in I'm torn between that and a lobo mustang which you featured on your channel some time ago ,stop showing me these guns lol.
@@tonywilliamson4512 Hahaha sorry-not-sorry Tony. 🤭😇 Given the choice I'd choose the Katran C if it was for pest control, otherwise... 🤔🤷🏻♂️ Whichever you choose, enjoy your shooting! Cheers. Russ
Given you like compact rifles though you might be interested in this conversion of the Artemis PP750 with a 3D printed folding stock. th-cam.com/video/E8VVLvRWZcg/w-d-xo.html
Wiem, że AirMaks zaktualizował rejestrację mojego Kraita wkrótce po jego otrzymaniu. Powinieneś skontaktować się z nimi bezpośrednio, na wypadek, gdyby zaktualizowały rejestrację Twojego Katran. Dziękuję za obejrzenie, pozdrawiam. Russ
The UK legal airgun power limit (without a firearms cert / FAC) is 12ft/lbs, or 16 joules (in European terms). Plenty enough for target shooting, plinking, and pest control (of UK 'vermin' species) to around 30-50m (depending upon circumstances). Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
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I called into blackpool air rifles 2 weeks ago to pick up a tin of pellets, and ended walking out with a katran c , I've got to say its the best air rifle I've ever had ,all 18 pellets through a 5p pence group @ 25 metres , Lloyd and Sean @ blackpool air rifles are a great set of lads, friendly and a good laugh 👍
Nice one Sean, that's what I'd have done (buying either a Krait or an Uragan Compact), if I could afford more than the few tins of pellets I bought. 🤣
Great choice though.
Cheers. Russ
Nice video Russ , and kudos to Steve for loaning it out :)
Thanks Jimmy, aye he's a star - and thanks for waitching.
Cheers. Russ
Superb video as always Russ
Thanks Chris, it helps that it's such an awesome rifle. 😎
Cheers. Russ
Thank you Russ.
Cracking video Russ , that rifle looks a keeper without doubt .
A lot of attention to details in that rifle.
Love it !
Hi Lee and thank-you, yep actually that's a great way of describing it, AKA a lot of pros with no obvious cos. :)
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Good video , fantastic gun . Thanks Russ.
Thanks Lloyd and yep this rifle's awesome, Steve added a transfer port restricter (from CDRGuns) and lightened the hammer spring a tad, lowering the power to 11.5 & increasing the shot count to 100. 👌
Cheers. Russ
How many shots does the B get compared to the C ?
Real nice rifle I have the compact bottle and I love it russ
Glad to hear you're enjoying it Gareth.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
They are super smooth, accurate ,light weight, great mags with 18shot capacity in 177 and not overly expensive. I love it and think it is better looking than the Krait 😉
Oh they're perhaps slightly more attractive in a conventional sense, but with my mobility issues the Krait's compact size / high performance is amazing!
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Great video 👍
Thinking of this or Air Arms TDR. I need something that breaks down small.
This is a sweet folding rifle, available in different lengths -and you can even detach the reservoir (which includes the reg'). This means you can have one cylinder for sub-12, and one for FAC.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222Pleasure watching your very informative video and thanks for responding. I'm more convinced now that this rifle offers more and is of at least similar build quality (perhaps better) than the AA TDR
Apart from couple minor problems I love my katran C, and it's insane shot count for such a small gun with a cylinder
What small probs
Got to say Russ it does look a cracking rifle ptty i just bought some thing ells lol Cheers 🤣😂😁👌👌👍👍
Love my Katran HP.
New Krait X coming this week.
I should receive a standard (compact) one today or tomorrow, from CDR Guns for review in Airgun World and here on my channel. :)
...plus Stuart of @Vermin_Control_Scotland will be receiving an L model Krait next week from CDR Guns, so we'll then meet-up to compare them side-by-side and of course test them on a rat shoot. :D
All the best, cheers. Russ
Morning Russell, great review, AirMaks are definitely one of the better brands, I've fallen for them big time,, customer service is amazing, quality of build is sublime, I recently reviewed the new Caiman X on my channel & the wedding date has been set lol 😁, thanks for the honest balanced review, Best Regards, Jon 👍, Hawkes eye TV 👍
Thanks very much Jonathan, yep I've found the same -am currently reviewing the superb compact new Krait bullpup, one sweet rifle. 👌
I'll checkout your channel and reviews. 🤓
All the best, cheers. Russ
Ps. Subscribed! 🤓
I'm looking forward to it already 😁 I saw the road trip, thoroughly enjoyed it,
I'll get set up comfy when I get the notification, take it easy Jon 👍
Thank you Russ 👍
Can't be C for cylinder given the SC and B and L and XHP also have a cylinder. It's C for compact and the SC is short compact etc. So which is best out of the Katran or the Krait?
From Chris @ CDR Guns...
SC= Sub compact
C = Compact
CB = Compact Bottle
BLANK = Std Cylinder
B = Std Bottle
L=Long (Cylinder)
LB = Long Bottle
...and there's no better or worse, they're both excellent so it's personal taste, but being disabled I prefer compact bullpups as they're more portable, so the Krait's the one I prefer. 👌🤓
Cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 I'm in two minds whether to get a Katran or Krait or even a Brocock Pathfinder. I can't understand why Airmaks didn't design the Katran with the trigger dropped lower and or the magazine holder higher, to enable the barrel and magazine holder to come back further to where the cocking lever is, just as many bullpups do, which could have either made the Katrans more compact.
@@MrRockstar1968 The Katran is not a bullpup, that's why it's configured as it is.
The Krait is a dedicated bullpup design.
I went for the Krait myself as I love its compact layout.
Cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 The Brocock Pathfinder also isn't a bullpup yet it is designed with the pellet magazine flush with the cocking lever which also allows the barrel to be situated further back to enable more compactness. My point is that the Kataran has a folding stock to enable it to be more compact and that they could have redesigned the positioning of the pellet magazine and barrel to enable it to be even more compact. For example the Katran SC has a 230mm barrel and is 448mm long without the stock, yet the Borcock Pathfinder has a longer 256mm barrel yet is 416mm with the stock folded down, which is 32mm shorter than the Katran SC. This enables the Brocock Pathfinder to be even more backpack friendly. That this is due to the positioning of the pellet magazine and barrel etc, which Armarks could have done with the Katran had they repositioned the magazine slot and barrel, etc. They could have potentially got the Katran SC down to 375mm and the Katran C down to 455mm with the stock folded which would have most certainly appealed to me even more. So due to these few inches in length I'm torn between the Brocock Pathfinder and the Katran CB. Keeping in mind a silencer may need to be added too which adds a few inches to the length. If the Katran was that few inches shorter whilst maintaining the barrel length due to repositioning then I would have purchased that one immediately without question.
@@MrRockstar1968 It's entirely up to Brocock and AirMaks how they design their rifles, then it's your personal choice to buy whichever you prefer. 🤷🏻♂️ ...which is why I bought a Krait, when some folk buy a Katran or a Pathfinder.
You should visit a gunshop and handle both (ideally including several different models of the Katran), then simply decide which you refer. 🤓
I guess you didn't see if it would fire slugs? Nice looking gun great video.
Sorry Patrick when I reviewed this I just used 8.44grain / 4.52mm JSB Exact Diabolos.
I do have some new H&N slugs (three weights) from John Rothery Wholesalers, which I'll be testing soon in my .177" FAC Maverick Compact.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 H&N slugs in mt Wildcat are all over the place even at higher speeds.
@@patrickvennard838 Ah perhaps they only suit some barrels but not others. I have 13gr, 16gr & 20gr slugs to test.
Cheers. Russ
Great rifle ....and what a decent guy you are ....no surprise there but worth mentioning as too much negativity about these days. Looks a great club too with members who really enjoy and appreciate shooting. Awesome vlog.
Q. Is the rifle available in fac ?
Thanks and be safe 🙏🦉
Thanks very much Gary, I'm always honest in my reviews and articles, so no turds are polished but also I bring you as much detail as possible, and rifles like this are filled with pros and a joy to review (as you saw).
Yep, Steve purchased this carbine from Jim at Crawley Surplus Store, and FAC versions are available. Although you won't want to fit the transfer port reducer as Steve did to improve air efficiency (supplied by Chris at UK importer CDRGuns) -if going down the FAC route.
All the best, cheers. Russ
Hi Russ
Another great review, while I'm not a "tactical" look fan. This is appealing. Like the ability to adjust virtually everything for a perfect fit.
With the length of pull, it looks like a single bar, so when it's extended, does it twist slightly (loose)?
And, importantly, can the rifle be fired with the stock folded? Obviously this would fall foul of our 12ft ruling, as it'd technically become a pistol?
The Hugget moderator suits the looks too 👍
Regards Snowflake 2
Yep absolutely, and nope it's twin bars that the butt pad extends on (so no twist), plus the pad itself can adjust up and down.
I extended the LOP to 375mm for my gangly arms: perfick! 👌
Oh it's fully legal, fear not.
Yep my Huggett mini-Magna mod was a perfect choice for this rifle, and coincidentally is the same one Steve purchased.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
It’s a winner Russ 👍
Absolutely, lots of fans over on 'The Katran thread' on the Airgun Forum.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Great gun.
Absolutely! 👌
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
hello, is the rifle geared or forward flow? how many shots from the gas station?
Did you ever find out what people are getting in terms of shot count fella?
I'm interested but not if it's all out of steam after two magazines or so,, I'd be wanting at least 75 full power shots per fill for my money
Shots per fill?
Steve after some fine-tuning on the hammer spring and adding a transfer port reducer, was getting 90 shots @11.6ft/lbs.
He passed-on that "@sub-12 airgunners" have a tuning video where they increased that to 120 shots (th-cam.com/video/-X81Bwva0iU/w-d-xo.html), impressive from such a compact rifle.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Hi,I dint catch the price?
Hi Tony, quoting from my Airgun World article "Airmaks Arms Katran C inc’ one mag £1,275 - from Jim at Crawley Surplus Store".
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 thanks Russ,I've looked on BAR site they have a second hand one in I'm torn between that and a lobo mustang which you featured on your channel some time ago ,stop showing me these guns lol.
@@tonywilliamson4512 Hahaha sorry-not-sorry Tony. 🤭😇
Given the choice I'd choose the Katran C if it was for pest control, otherwise... 🤔🤷🏻♂️
Whichever you choose, enjoy your shooting!
Cheers. Russ
I guess it's "C" for compact.
Almost, with AirMaks Arms it's C for (air reservoir) cylinder, and B for (air reservoir) bottle.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
It is C for compact……..
The one with the bottle is the CB
Harga katran cb berapa bos????
How to buy broo
www.surplusstore.co.uk/
Blame it all on Russell, lol.
Given you like compact rifles though you might be interested in this conversion of the Artemis PP750 with a 3D printed folding stock. th-cam.com/video/E8VVLvRWZcg/w-d-xo.html
Posiadam ten karabinek ,moim zdaniem bardzo zawodny regulator .
Wiem, że AirMaks zaktualizował rejestrację mojego Kraita wkrótce po jego otrzymaniu. Powinieneś skontaktować się z nimi bezpośrednio, na wypadek, gdyby zaktualizowały rejestrację Twojego Katran.
Dziękuję za obejrzenie, pozdrawiam. Russ
11 joules? You must be kidding!
The UK legal airgun power limit (without a firearms cert / FAC) is 12ft/lbs, or 16 joules (in European terms).
Plenty enough for target shooting, plinking, and pest control (of UK 'vermin' species) to around 30-50m (depending upon circumstances).
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ