What I found most shocking about these cases, apart from the obvious murder, is how the killers choose such a painful way for their victims to die. There must be some perverse pleasure in watching the suffering, irrespective of whether the deaths brought remuneration. When you think that early demise was relatively commonplace, so to speak, choosing such a cruel way for the victims to die seems all the more abhorrent. Thank you for bringing to light these dark stories I such a fascinating way. Also thank you for always responding so positively and incorporating our thoughts into your broadcasts. Overall this is a very enjoyable channel 😊
Great point - it was, as you say, a particularly painful way to die. We did not highlight the tremendous pain in this episode as it is mostly the deaths of children. but you are right - it was an excruciating way to die and most likely not alleviated in any way by the mother who did it to them. We agree - there is an element of sadism here. Thank you so much for your kind comments and kind support! It is very much appreciated! 🙏
We think there was a lot of sludge at the time! Water-tight coffins were not a thing! There was A LOT of medical evidence in this case which went into detail (which was Dr Taylor's way - he really was a man ahead of his time) describing in detail how they were had to scrape what remained of the stomach amongst the sludge to try to find grains of arsenic. In one body, it was basically sludge, so they are adding chemicals and boiling the actual sludge body remains to look for arsenic. ummm, we condensed it. 😏
I’ve subscribed to your channel as I enjoy your storytelling very much especially the murder tales about Ireland as I’m Irish myself and it’s interesting as you pronounce some of the names differently than we do here 👍🏻
WELCOME!! We love to hear from our Irish cousins! 🙌Thank you for supporting our little channel! 🙏You are most kind - we are sure "differently" actually means "wrong" - a notorious inability to properly pronounce anything non-British English is a hallmark! We like to say it is a "feature" that allows people to have a laugh, even with rather sad stories. Please do check out our community page! We are fairly good about giving regular updates! Thank you so much again for supporting us - it is very much appreciated! Oh yes, in our attempt to try to give some levity, our Sunday episode is a short murder mystery of our own creation where you, the listener, get to give a go at solving a crime! They are only short, but they are meant to be a bit of fun! Lovely to hear from you 🙏🤗
I wonder what the motive was for all the killings? Taking into account the various ages of the children who died and the fact that her husband’s eldest son was actually bringing money into the house the ‘common’ motives of money or too many mouths to feed, obviously aren’t in play. Perhaps she was simply a sadist who enjoyed the act of killing. Another great episode. Congratulations to all involved. Getting close to 2000 subscribers!
Yes, that was exactly what was so curious in the whole matter. She really made very little. The eldest son insurance was 50 shillings. It was surmised that the rag and bone man's son was killed so she could avoid paying him back for the two beds. As very very bad as this all was, it could have been worse if she had actually started bringing in lodgers....🤔
This case and others involving Dr. Albert Swaine Taylor are detailed in "The Arsenic Century: How Victorian Britain was Poisoned at Home, Work, and Play" by James C. Whorton. It's a comprehensive history of arsenic as a weapon of murder, as a pervasive threat to public health, and as a driver of scientific innovation and legal change. Fascinating stuff.
Thank you - brilliant! 👍 I am sure many of our subscribers will be interested! Before Spillsbury, there was Taylor.... Truly a man ahead of his time! His explanations regardng the steps, techniques used and number of trials to ensure there was no question of false positives in this particular case were ...detailed! Wow! Quite remarkable, especially given the limited resources of the time. Thank you for sharing - with your permission, we will include it in our weekly update crediting yourself - is that ok?
@@newsofthetimes Thank you. I'm sure many others will be interested as well. Taylor was not only accomplished, but a man of personal and professional integrity as well. He was so very meticulous because during one (and only one) trial, he realized that his choice of testing materials could have resulted in a false positive for arsenic. Dr.. Taylor informed the court at once, but this was seized upon not only by defense lawyers who used his admission to discredit his testimony in other trials, but by colleagues who denounced his carelessness - even though they used the same materials themselves - while probably wishing privately that he'd kept his mouth shut.
@@bethanyherrera4787 Yes, we are aware of that trial - in fact we are sure we covered that one although we do not remember which one off the top of our heads. 🤔Yes - a really fascinating man! Another man of his tme, who seemed to do just about everything, is Wynn E Baxter - the coronor during the jack the ripper slayings. Not many people know of him, but he was highly intellligent and very interesting. It is inspirational when one comes across those exceptional people who seem to be good or talented at whatever they touch. Thank you for sharing Bethany - that is what we really want this channel to be about - a community where we all share our knowledge, thoughts, and ideas with others. Thank you for the permission as well! that is up now on our community page. 😊 🙌
This has to be one of the most "despicable," woman I have ever heard of to poison your own family members perhaps as many as ten in number. Betty obviously didn't receive much financial gains so what was her motivation in killing her family members. If she wasn't insane I'm thrilled she received the death penalty. Was she ever examined by a psychiatrist to see if she was insane? Do you know whatever happened to her last husband? Great investigating, presenting, backstories, illustrations, photos and videos, too. Take care 🦋
Great questions! Psychology in 1842 , at least in this area, was still very much in its infancy, so very little understanding of psychopathy. We do not know what happend to Mr Eccles who was devastated at losing his eldest son. She just seems to have liked to kill. 😡
Just discovered your work. You have unearthed an excellent case here.A veritable serial murderer.Unlike other poisoners I don't know why she did it as they were not insured and her stepson as pointed out was bringing in a wage.The pain she meted out was dreadful and she suffered accordingly. I don't particularly agree with execution (particularly not for women) however this is necessary. Arsenic surely played a part in many a drama amidst poverty and death.
WELCOME! 🙌and thank you so very much for giving us your time and for your kind comment and support!🙏 Yes, she was a nasty one - we have quite a few them actually. In general, we try to cover the lesser known stories about 75% of the time. Having said that, this month's theme is "notorious" - so more famous cases. You will more than likely know many of the ones coming up.😉As for execution - there was no differentiation with women - if anything, women had more to prove if they were in any way perceived to deviate from saintliness. If you are interested, we have a great story of a woman who was accused of putting together a crime death club. Because of her, the governement spent the next 5 years trying to chase down anyone who might have remotely known her and where there was a death in the family. That link is here: th-cam.com/video/mZQrkRJgg1E/w-d-xo.html Thank you again so much for the kind comment and support! Give a shout out if you have any questions - our community page is updated every week with what is coming up!📆
What I found most shocking about these cases, apart from the obvious murder, is how the killers choose such a painful way for their victims to die. There must be some perverse pleasure in watching the suffering, irrespective of whether the deaths brought remuneration. When you think that early demise was relatively commonplace, so to speak, choosing such a cruel way for the victims to die seems all the more abhorrent.
Thank you for bringing to light these dark stories I such a fascinating way. Also thank you for always responding so positively and incorporating our thoughts into your broadcasts. Overall this is a very enjoyable channel 😊
Great point - it was, as you say, a particularly painful way to die. We did not highlight the tremendous pain in this episode as it is mostly the deaths of children. but you are right - it was an excruciating way to die and most likely not alleviated in any way by the mother who did it to them. We agree - there is an element of sadism here. Thank you so much for your kind comments and kind support! It is very much appreciated! 🙏
I like that you include the gruesome stuff like how the exhumed were "sludge". Really gets you right at the scene, lol. Great job as always, Robin.
We think there was a lot of sludge at the time! Water-tight coffins were not a thing! There was A LOT of medical evidence in this case which went into detail (which was Dr Taylor's way - he really was a man ahead of his time) describing in detail how they were had to scrape what remained of the stomach amongst the sludge to try to find grains of arsenic. In one body, it was basically sludge, so they are adding chemicals and boiling the actual sludge body remains to look for arsenic. ummm, we condensed it. 😏
@@newsofthetimes they had some strong stomachs that's for sure.
@@bryangooden4298 😏👍
I’ve subscribed to your channel as I enjoy your storytelling very much especially the murder tales about Ireland as I’m Irish myself and it’s interesting as you pronounce some of the names differently than we do here 👍🏻
WELCOME!! We love to hear from our Irish cousins! 🙌Thank you for supporting our little channel! 🙏You are most kind - we are sure "differently" actually means "wrong" - a notorious inability to properly pronounce anything non-British English is a hallmark! We like to say it is a "feature" that allows people to have a laugh, even with rather sad stories. Please do check out our community page! We are fairly good about giving regular updates! Thank you so much again for supporting us - it is very much appreciated! Oh yes, in our attempt to try to give some levity, our Sunday episode is a short murder mystery of our own creation where you, the listener, get to give a go at solving a crime! They are only short, but they are meant to be a bit of fun! Lovely to hear from you 🙏🤗
@@newsofthetimes Thanks 🙏 so much for replying and I’ll check out your Sunday mysteries 👍🏻
I wonder what the motive was for all the killings? Taking into account the various ages of the children who died and the fact that her husband’s eldest son was actually bringing money into the house the ‘common’ motives of money or too many mouths to feed, obviously aren’t in play. Perhaps she was simply a sadist who enjoyed the act of killing.
Another great episode. Congratulations to all involved. Getting close to 2000 subscribers!
Yes, that was exactly what was so curious in the whole matter. She really made very little. The eldest son insurance was 50 shillings. It was surmised that the rag and bone man's son was killed so she could avoid paying him back for the two beds. As very very bad as this all was, it could have been worse if she had actually started bringing in lodgers....🤔
Thank you for sharing. Wicked mom she was.
Mega wicked mum ! 😡No prize winner there! Very little background information on her, so we do not have her antecedents. 🤔
Don't. Think. I would. Want. Live. In. Those. Times. Life. Was cheap. !
This case and others involving Dr. Albert Swaine Taylor are detailed in "The Arsenic Century: How Victorian Britain was Poisoned at Home, Work, and Play" by James C. Whorton. It's a comprehensive history of arsenic as a weapon of murder, as a pervasive threat to public health, and as a driver of scientific innovation and legal change. Fascinating stuff.
Thank you - brilliant! 👍 I am sure many of our subscribers will be interested! Before Spillsbury, there was Taylor.... Truly a man ahead of his time! His explanations regardng the steps, techniques used and number of trials to ensure there was no question of false positives in this particular case were ...detailed! Wow! Quite remarkable, especially given the limited resources of the time. Thank you for sharing - with your permission, we will include it in our weekly update crediting yourself - is that ok?
@@newsofthetimes Thank you. I'm sure many others will be interested as well. Taylor was not only accomplished, but a man of personal and professional integrity as well. He was so very meticulous because during one (and only one) trial, he realized that his choice of testing materials could have resulted in a false positive for arsenic. Dr.. Taylor informed the court at once, but this was seized upon not only by defense lawyers who used his admission to discredit his testimony in other trials, but by colleagues who denounced his carelessness - even though they used the same materials themselves - while probably wishing privately that he'd kept his mouth shut.
@@bethanyherrera4787 Yes, we are aware of that trial - in fact we are sure we covered that one although we do not remember which one off the top of our heads. 🤔Yes - a really fascinating man! Another man of his tme, who seemed to do just about everything, is Wynn E Baxter - the coronor during the jack the ripper slayings. Not many people know of him, but he was highly intellligent and very interesting. It is inspirational when one comes across those exceptional people who seem to be good or talented at whatever they touch. Thank you for sharing Bethany - that is what we really want this channel to be about - a community where we all share our knowledge, thoughts, and ideas with others. Thank you for the permission as well! that is up now on our community page. 😊 🙌
This has to be one of the most "despicable," woman I have ever heard of to poison your own family members perhaps as many as ten in number. Betty obviously didn't receive much financial gains so what was her motivation in killing her family members. If she wasn't insane I'm thrilled she received the death penalty. Was she ever examined by a psychiatrist to see if she was insane? Do you know whatever happened to her last husband? Great investigating, presenting, backstories, illustrations, photos and videos, too. Take care 🦋
Great questions! Psychology in 1842 , at least in this area, was still very much in its infancy, so very little understanding of psychopathy. We do not know what happend to Mr Eccles who was devastated at losing his eldest son. She just seems to have liked to kill. 😡
Just discovered your work. You have unearthed an excellent case here.A veritable serial murderer.Unlike other poisoners I don't know why she did it as they were not insured and her stepson as pointed out was bringing in a wage.The pain she meted out was dreadful and she suffered accordingly. I don't particularly agree with execution (particularly not for women) however this is necessary. Arsenic surely played a part in many a drama amidst poverty and death.
WELCOME! 🙌and thank you so very much for giving us your time and for your kind comment and support!🙏 Yes, she was a nasty one - we have quite a few them actually. In general, we try to cover the lesser known stories about 75% of the time. Having said that, this month's theme is "notorious" - so more famous cases. You will more than likely know many of the ones coming up.😉As for execution - there was no differentiation with women - if anything, women had more to prove if they were in any way perceived to deviate from saintliness. If you are interested, we have a great story of a woman who was accused of putting together a crime death club. Because of her, the governement spent the next 5 years trying to chase down anyone who might have remotely known her and where there was a death in the family. That link is here: th-cam.com/video/mZQrkRJgg1E/w-d-xo.html Thank you again so much for the kind comment and support! Give a shout out if you have any questions - our community page is updated every week with what is coming up!📆
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Was like that. In America. Mass. Crowds. At hangings. Ghouls. ;!
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