Yeah if a guy with a gun comes into my house, kicks me out, tells everyone now it's his, the police does nothing, and when I take him to court, the judge rules that we should just share MY house, I can't imagine me being okay with it either.
I disagree. Just because Israeli settlements were built around West Bank during the decades doesn’t mean they can’t leave. Germany lost 20% of their territory to Poland after WWII.
Israel will never give up those settlements willingly. Not unless the entire world use military force to push them out of the West Bank and now Gaza. I dont think the world is prepared to do that. There is only two conclusions to this. The first is that Israel and Palestine give up fighting with one another. Israel cease to exist and a new government is formed that is made up of Jews and Palestine. The other conclusions is a never ending globe war that will never cease to end. Israel will expand its boarders in name of security. While simultaneously pushing Palestinr out of their boarders. Till eventually the world is forced to step in and force Israel to stop its conquest in name of security. Which would basically mean world War 3. This is right now the most likely scenario.
like "palestine" lost most of its territory when they wanted to fight wars against the jews and then lost. Maybe dont start wars over and over again :)
@@raymondyu412 Who is going to make the settlers leave? The Israeli government is unable to do that. The West and Arab states won't do that. And the Palis can't do much.
Don't forget the British watch 5.28 min. As we know they have done that in many countries. UN is nothing but representatives of the Western world. Which wants to rule the world and make everybody else dependent on them
@@VictorVictory-ht2cp Palestine was a region of Jews and Arabs. Arabs refused Jews and attacked civilians. The land was not stolen. The Arabs declared a genocidal war and civilians fled and were not invited back. That is what happens in war. Ask all the people who were colonized by Muslims and subjugated with Sharia law.
The two-state solution has always just been a way to keep the Palestinians calm and sitting at the negotiation table while Israel continues to confiscate land and build settlements , and that is the two-state solution
@@user-kb1rl5qy1k you are right , we all know that Scotty beamed them over from across the Galaxy after Israel was created , just so he can give them a hard time
But with delicious irony the Palestinians could've had everything they wanted, including Jerusalem as a shared capital, under the proposed 1947 UN partition plan! They listened to that rabid antisemite Amin al-Husseini and rejected it out-of-hand! They've suffered the consequences ever since!
If the Arabs had accepted the two-state solution in 1947, the Palestinians living in the sovereign State of Palestine today would be the most prosperous Arabs anywhere, notwithstanding the oil wealth of the Gulf. While the Arabs were justified in their anger about the creation of Israel, the only people they have hurt by their refusal to make peace has been themselves.
@@BS-vx8dg Israel never ever wanted a 2 state solution , think about it , do you really think that Israel is ever going to NOT want the West Bank and Jerusalem ??
What about the tens of thousands of Jews who were expelled by the Arabs after 1948 from neighboring countries in North Africa and the Middle East and their homes and lands were taken? By your logic, Egyptians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Tunisians, Libyans and Iranians are all sqautters? Instead of protesting here, ask your government to take in the Palestinians just like these expelled Jews were assimilated into their society by the Israelis.
@@jamesbarnes3832 Israel expel Palestinian refugee base plan D which call hostiles and pretend hostile villages, areas of towns and cities had military logical to
As a foreigner, I appreciate the clarity and perspective of your presentation. Your final challenge to leaders is a logical and excellent conclusion. Thank you.
In 1993, the USA played a role in aiding Israel, fully aware from the beginning that Israel would never recognize a Palestinian state. Now, in 2024, there have been no negotiations, yet the USA continues to veto any recognition of Palestine, justifying this by claiming that negotiations-which ended over 20 years ago-must be respected.
the US loses its status of the worlds superpower when it comes to Israel. they become clows that have no idea what to do and look weak in a blink of an eye. The US Cannot be apart of negotiations between the two sides since it follows the Rules of AIPAC. If Israel want to continue to be on the map then it has to give the idea of its Jewish Supremacy and the ideoligy of Zionism
They don't. There are roads that cannot be used with Palestinian license plates, but Palestinians can get Israeli license plates, and in fact many have them.
Well if Palestinians kept their hands to themselves that wouldn't happen. and fyi it's Israelis who can't use Palestinian roads for fear of being murdered but those Palestine terrorists use both roads without any harm then you wonder who is really the oppressor.
@@Sh3ryn You're an imbecile. You speak as if Palestinians appeared out of nowhere to torment Israelis. It's a fact that Palestinians are descendants of Ancient Judaeans who chose to settle, then convert to Islam and Christianity. European Jews only have 2% DNA of ancient Judaeans. Which is why Israel was almost created in Uganda and changed at the last moment. GTFOH YOU CLOWN
Because Bantustans and Balkanization never work 🤷🏻♀️ simple as that. There’s a big difference between a decentralized confederacy, and tiny nation-states battling for traditional territories at each other’s borders.
The two state nonsense must be forgotten permanently. Only a single integrated state with equal rights to all of its people is feasable. Whether the integrated state is called Israel, palestine or any other name is irrelevant. Peace will only be achieved when all the citizens of that land are treated with dignity and respect and the oppressed people are allowed to progress, contribute and benefit from the state they live in.
big problem is tha Arabs are completely unfammiliar with that. ´democracy, civil rights, freedom of speech are completely foreign words for them. That is why countries like Syria, Iraq , Lebanon that are formally republics function are hereditary absolute monarchies.
The Zionist are racists. They will not allow what you are suggesting. "...Zionism... is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition. Following the establishment of the modern state of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports the development and protection of the State of Israel as a Jewish state..." - wiki - United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination" Zionists are Jewish Supremacists.
There is no Israel. It doesn't have the right to exist. Might does not make right and seizing land by force doesn't make it yours. A biblical claim to a land that has nothing to do with you doesn't make it yours. Occupation and atrocities committed over decades bars you from ever having a claim to a land that has thoroughly rejected your foreign presence. There is no Israel, only Palestine and it belongs to the Palestinians be they Muslim, Christian, or Jew.
This video makes the argument that Israel will not allow for a 2 state solution by using the examples of Rabin (which was a more complicated situation than the video alludes to) and Netanyahu, the only two leaders of Israel ever to oppose this plan. Meanwhile, the video fails to mention how many times (including in 1948) Palestinian leadership has rejected the 2 state plan. This video also acts as though Hamas leadership of a Palestinian state is a viable option -I don't see how a leadership that brutally murdered the opposition party and funneled billions of aid dollars into building tunnels under densely populated areas and has not allowed for an election since they've come to power could be trusted to lead the people.
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Be honest if you were practically a third world country, at least in terms of digital and technical advancement and having no advanced secret services, but your neighbour who opposes your rule immensely has all of those things listed, would you trust an election in your land? Or do you think you'd have pretty reasonable concerns for it being bought out/altered.
76 years of victimhood and a refusal to get their act together. Permanent victims disliked by anyone who has had to deal with them. Go ask neighboring Muslim countries how they feel about the troublesome Palestinians.
The current arrangement is already a 1-state (but not a 1-state solution) for both jews and palestinians. It is an israeli apartheid state >> which everyone can see plainly. The next 1-state (and a true 1-state solution) has to be based on equal rights with no exceptions for both the israelis and the palestinians. Otherwise it is the zionists who need to find a new home.
The next state needs to be a palestinian state, and THEY get to decide who has which rights. Us telling them what should happen there is how this whole shit show started.
The Palestinian Right to Return is enshrined in International Law. It can never be voted away or dismissed by any agreement without the full consent of the refugees and their descendants. Any agreement that ignores it has and will fail.
No, we do not ignore international law. Refugees from Europe should be able to go back and refugees displaced from Palestine should be able to go back to all of Palestine.
Yup, it's promoting ridiculous ideas like that which makes solving this issue impossible. What the heck are those UN clowns even thinking. Seriously, do they actually expect Israel to let in 5 million people who descend from a refugee from 75 years ago who now live elsewere.
The Palestinian Authority had many opportunities to establish its state next to Israel, but chose conflict each time. It's too late now. Maybe five autonomous areas within Israel are possible, but if not negotiated for now, that opportunity will be gone forever too.
I'm atheist, but this makes the most sense, and there needs to be a minimum of a newly established parliament. Comprised evenly of people from each peoples. I know this wouldn't entirely be the solution because you'll always have the RW Israeli and even moderates, probably with jealousy and resentment, for no longer being that dictatorial hand over the lives of Palestinians, but this would hopefully put them somewhat in their place.
This offers a perspective on the Israeli settlements in the West Bank, but it skillfully avoids addressing a crucial part of the historical narrative: why and how Israel acquired the West Bank in the first place. The focus is often placed on the settlements and their impact on Palestinians, yet the underlying cause-the 1967 war-is glossed over. When Arab nations, including Egypt, Jordan, and Syria, collectively declared war on Israel, their aim was to eliminate the young Israeli state. The outcome, however, was not what they had hoped for. Israel, in a war of survival, managed not only to defend itself but also to capture significant territories, including the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Golan Heights. These territories, acquired during the conflict, became central to future negotiations and are at the heart of the modern-day settlement issue. By omitting the broader context of the 1967 Six-Day War, the documentary paints an incomplete picture. While the settlements have certainly been controversial, they are a direct consequence of a war that was initiated with the goal of eradicating Israel. To discuss settlements without this context risks misrepresenting the chain of events that led to the current situation. Furthermore, Arab nations at the time could have taken a different approach after the war-perhaps through diplomatic engagement or international legal measures. But instead, the focus remained on hostility and a refusal to recognize Israel’s right to exist, which only prolonged the conflict. The settlement issue is undoubtedly complex, and while it raises valid concerns about the future of Palestinian sovereignty and Israeli security, it cannot be viewed in isolation from the events that sparked it. Peaceful resolutions, as elusive as they may seem, will require both sides to acknowledge the full scope of their shared history, including the causes and consequences of the wars that have shaped the region. The failure to address the root causes of these conflicts-whether by media or political actors-ultimately hampers efforts to find sustainable solutions. Broader insight into the reality of these events is critical if we are to move beyond cycles of violence and toward a more peaceful and just resolution for all involved.
My gmail account got deleted by youtube moderation that's insane! over pro palestinian sentiments im not kiddin im even scared to talk my mind right now. be careful with what you say online guys! stay safe!
@@4T3hM4kr0n well i can't prove it beyond my word sorry. my only evidence is the chain of events that got my google account deleted, just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it didn't happen to me. i can pinpoint exactly the moment it happened but everything my account has ever done is deleted for some reason. i saw a video about that blonde jewish woman talking about Pal being an ideology and the hipocrisy of it.
You mean AFTER acknowledging Israel as a state the Palestinians didn’t accept a 5 year temporary Palestinian state, spread across geographic disconnected ‘buntustans’ with all of its infrastructure effectively controlled by Israel. And remember after Olso Israel didn’t just fail to stop Illegal settlements, they ramped up the process. So even if they had accepted this miserable excuse for a State that Isreal could crush at any moment it wouldn’t have protected Palestinians from being ethnically cleansed from their homes. There fixed it for you.
They rejected the 1947 UN partition plan. They offered one country for Muslims, Chistians, and Jews--something the Jews already in Palestine also wanted. European Jewish immigrants demanded a Jewish state. That was the whole idea of Zionist colonization from the beginning.
Thank you for everything you do..thank you for being brave. I could never visit Palestine since Israel is occupying and terrorizing that area. Its sad and i hope one day we can see a free Palestine and maybe one day ill be able to visit and not think that i am going to be killed.
The British government massively limited the number of jews who could go to Palestine to prevent this problem, the predecessor to the IDF, Hagganah actually became powerful from illegally smuggling European jews into Palestine, the British government at one point was fighting alongside the arabs against jewish rebels. Hagganah was funded primarily by America, America created this problem, Britain did not.
I thought it was British Baron Rothschild who petitioned the British government to move the British Zionist into Palestine with the Balfour Agreement 1917?
Well Hamas did in their 2017 Charta, as it has been said in the video. It was a door open for negotiation to at least discuss paths for a future everybody can agree on. All better than this madness right now, no matter whether you're Israeli or Palestinian, what's happening in Gaza and Lebanon right now, can't be agreeable to any human being, no matter what the reason might be. If the sides at least would have begun talking to each other, this horrible loss of human life on 7/10 and after that in Gaza and Lebanon maybe could have been avoided. As slight as this chance might have been - still better than the reality right now.
@@RedPlanetarist Israel must rule the world with their Messiah and King, the Lord Jesus Christ. "Yet have I set my King upon my holy hill of Zion". Zionism is the only way to get world peace.
@@RedPlanetarist hamas/Palestinians have proven that if giv en a state they would use it as a terror state. Israel left Gaza in 2005, Gaza received billions in aid. What did they do with the money and humanitarin aid??
Ive been thinking the same… thieves don’t respect borders, armed and violent illegal settlers don’t agree to get along. Decades of their feral behaviour have demonstrated this, reasonable societies don’t commit genocide on their neighbours.
76 years of victimhood and a refusal to get their act together. Permanent victims disliked by anyone who has had to deal with them. Go ask neighboring Muslim countries how they feel about the troublesome Palestinians.
@@Comments1-vc8jg That’s too funny… You know it is 76 years , yet your comment is attempting to justify theft, illegal and armed feral violent occupation? Brutal apartheid system and full intent Genocide? That is a zionazi excuse. And another characteristic of zees is: to claim /steal even the victimhood from their actual victims. 76 years of victimhood …. they have right to defend themselves against 76 years of oppressors , usurpers and they have right to self-determination. Go ask a normal sane human about that.
I wish it was possible, but it would not be the utopia many think it would be. First, we are talking about two populations that have been at each other's throats for decades; they can't just coexist with a snap of a finger. Second, although there are extremists on both sides, there is no denying that the extremists on the Palestinian side have the more extreme goal of literally killing every Jew. How do you get them to coexist? Third, the neighbourhood, i.e., the Middle East, is not conducive to a stable democracy, and typically, democracies thrive when surrounded by other democracies. Here, this utopian One-state solution would be surrounded by countries who, for various reasons, don't want this to work out (Iran would be the biggest problem with the help of its proxies.)
Didn't Prophet Muhammad 55 year old who married 6 year old Aiesha did the same thing during his time ? Came to the same land and expelled all the jews from their mother land ?
Prophet Muhammad established his country within Saudi Arabia. It was the Jews who came from Egypt who took over the Canaanite land by killing every tribe there and made it into their own. Their so called tribal god even commanded killing the babies and children of Amalekites, which was referenced by Netanyahu and used as inspiration in this ongoing genocide. Baby killers in the past, and in the today. As for Aisha, she became the leading female scholar of Islam.
You're assuming that "WW2" was more than a d!ck measuring competition between colonizers. It had nothing to do with morality or justice. One colonizers beat out another colonizer and history tells the result of that conflict.
Look at the history of Manifest Destiny. Settlers pushing further and further into the frontier, displacing its inhabitants and ignoring their government's official treaties until the government annexed the new land. Reservations growing smaller and smaller to feed the appetite of the colonial power. The former inhabitants demoted to second class citizens living under apartheid. Israel takes after the US in the worst ways.
I’d be careful drawing comparisons with WW2… you might let it slip that Palestinian leadership was EXTREMELY friendly with the nazi party for almost two decades. Or that after the war, Amin Al-husseini was extremely eager to continue his buddy hitler’s scourge against Jews regardless of their affinity for Zionism. I’ll say that again; Palestine was led by a literal nazi from 1948-1953. I think it’s safe to say a welcoming culture wasn’t exactly on the Palestinian priority list when Jews began flooding the area.
let me remind you something jordan was part of the land called palestine. it was carve out as another state. only the remaining land was suppose to be partition. Israel accepted the three way partition. but arabs would not give a square inch. the fought Israel lost three times.
"for the Palestinians the right to return is at the center of their struggle and identity..." Why? When I was 12, my family moved from L.A. to Portland. I didn't want to move, but I accepted it as it was what had to happen. 50 years later, I don't have a pressing need to buy my childhood house (I could afford to buy it, but why?), nor do I have a great desire to move back to L.A. In every other conflict that involved large displacement of people, there has been no pressing desire to return. The formation of Bangladesh involved the displacement of 10M people (mostly Hindu out of Bangladesh) yet the Hindus haven't stated a desire to return to their old homes. Prussia was eliminated as a country (originally formed in the 1500s, but the germanic peoples were displaced mostly to East Germany in the early 1950s) but no one to my knowledge is asking for a reformation of Prussia. The long conflict in Cyprus still hasn't been completely resolved, and there was a significant displacement of people, but no one is calling for a "right to return" there either. In the novel Dune, the Fremen had a phrase, "We will never forget, and we will never forgive" If you want to know why there is never peace in the middle east, the answer is religion.
1000%. I am Jewish, my grandparents lost their home and property during the war (in the 1940s, same time as Israel’s formation). It would be crazy for me to go back and kick out the people living there now. tens of millions of people displaced during World War Two but only Palestinians have this special right.
@@nestwr In Bangladesh the civilians were thrown out by an army, and in Prussia it was the occupying power (the Soviets) who forced them out, and in many other instances in history, so my comment is still valid.
during world war II the US Air Force had to pay Ford Motors for damages to Ford's factory in germany during the many bombing campaigns against the german arm's industry. So you are probably on to something
stormbytes: "Cancer is a “two-state solution” within one body. How well does that usually work?" Well, in 1947, two historic lands were partitioned. The India subcontinent was divided into Pakistan and India, and the British Mandate in Palestine was divided into a Jewish state and an Israeli state. The division in India was horrifically painful, with literally millions of people uprooted from their homes to move to where "their people" resided. You can argue that it was wrong, but the Hindus and Muslims learned to accept it, and that two state solution has worked out pretty well. But in Palestine, the Arabs rejected the partition (for admittedly good reasons; I personally think it was wrong of the UN to do that), tried to destroy Israel, and in the process lost what they were supposed to have in the partition. It sucked, yes, but if they had accepted that partition over 75 years ago, today the State of Palestine would be home to the most prosperous Arabs in the world. But instead, Arab leadership opted for a strategy of continually pounding their own head with a hammer, and they wonder why they are so miserable. It didn't have to be like this.
@@BS-vx8dg In your analogy muslims that continued to live in India after partition would be equivalent to the Israeli Arabs. India currently has a fundamentalist Hindu government that exploits hostility towards muslims and destroys historic mosques in order to rebuild ancient Hindu temples on the same spot. What do you think that is equivalent to in Palestine? Also, India and Pakistan both have nuclear weapons. Would you let the Palestinians have nukes to make things equal?
Yep, it starts before WWl. It's insane. I was a staunch Israel supporter. One day things just started not adding up. I started asking questions and doing research. I was appalled at what I found. I couldn't believe how blind I was.
@@andile5945 This is all the massive the Hamas propoganda machine. And it's everywhere. And you fell for it. They are simply rewritting history. While i watched it when it wasn't history, but current events. This is all Iran, and the SOLE reason, with its War proxie dogs, Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis, that there is not peace in the Mid East ..You seem to have forgotten they are the butchers of Oct 7th. And those weren't war deaths. That was gang raping women and gutting them alive. And making their family watch. Burning whole families alive. Bayonetting babies. Dismembering living people...etc,etc. There was so little recognizable left, it took Israel 10 months to identify all the bits and pieces, so they could be identified and buried in the right grave. A d the carnage happened while they were still alive. Hamas wanted to force Israel into war. And that's exactly what they got.. And now you are whining because it's not a Disney movie...
One state solution would be extremely difficult as well because there will inevitably be segregation and discrimination within the country. Basically apartheid without the current big walls. The land stealing will continue, the bullying will continue, settler violence will continue, Palestinians' livelihood will be hell-like. I cannot see these 2 populations living together peacefully.
@@politicas3361 Many Palestinians descended from Jews and Canaanites. Also, it was Muslims and Omar (RAA) who helped Jews return to Jerusalem after kicking out the Romans, and here's a cancer reverse begging for Dajjal arriving sooner.
This is a very misleading, poor understanding of the Israel-Palestine problem, in fact a lot of her story is fabrication. This just makes the problems worse.
She doesn’t mention religion . And she doesn’t mention that Arafat withdrew from the Oslo accords. And then Abbas in 2005. Does not give a single example of stolen land, not one. It’s not very intelligent. And as you said it reinforces the problem, spews hate especially in the gullible west. The moderate Arab countries know what’s going on better than the Western democracies.
The treaty that marked the end of the Ottoman Empire's control over Palestine after World War I was the Treaty of Sèvres, signed in 1920, which officially dissolved the Ottoman Empire and CEDED large parts of its territory, including Palestine, to the Allied powers like Britain and France as League of Nations mandates; essentially placing Palestine under British control.
The suggested solution is equally hopeless. Letting all displaced Palestinians back in and redefining the state as offering full rights to all means the effective dissolution of Israel, as the then majority (Palestinians) would vote and struggle for that and that alone. (After such a contentious 70 years, wouldn't you?). While I definitely side more with the Palestinian people in what happens now, it's hard to ignore that the catastrophe of 1948 was the *millitary outcome* of an Arab attack of both local militias and aid from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Egypt. Then there's the 1967 war, almost entirely due to Egypt, first by blocking naval vessels, secondarily by reimposing the blockade after being told the consequences, while moving large parts of its army up to its borders with Israel in preparation for a fight. This idea of fighting it out, and outside intervention repeated in the 1973 Yom Kippur War where again, Egypt and Syria, along with expeditionary forces from many other Arab countries, tried to overthrow Israel by force. The sad thing here is that Palestianians, and their allies in neighbouring countries, tried to resolve the question to their satisfaction with force, 3 times. Israel won all those battles decisively, and now those same people bemoan Israel solving the question to its satisfaction through force. ((Not saying I agree with their policy now, I really don't, but the kettle is calling the pot black here)).
Wow, a rational rebuttal! Good comment, my friend. I see it the exact same way. I'm on the side of the innocent Palestinians. I don't know why so many that support them go into glazing terrorism and genocidal ideology, though.
The palestinans were offered 99% of the west bank and Gaza in 7 different occasions in the last 40 years. They always said no and reacted with violenece and terrorism. They dont want to live along side of Israel, they want Israel destruction. You dont believe me? Then ask a palestinian yourself and you'll see. On the contrary, If you were propose a palestinian state living peacefully along side israel the vast majority would say YES, but they all know such an indipendent state will create a scenario similar to Gaza #2, a state that promotes terrorism and violence less than 5 km from Israel main cities and populated areas. No one wants to test this.
@@down-to-earth-mystery-school wrong, both have equal claims to the land, its a 50/50 but when a side say they want it all it will always result in conflict.
That's the point, they didn't, they just locked them like animals in zoo, and then Palestinians attacked to take THEIR lands, Israel started killing innocent people. Israel already killed 30000 people, and hamas killed only 1400 (I condemn hamas for what they did, but Israel much worse than hamas)
@@SA-uz9sn they dont barricade there without reason, u have something called hamas on power and they launched rocket from there, thats why they built wall there to contain them
Many Arabs told fellow Muslims to leave prior to the war of Independence thinking they would win in 1948 and resettle. They lost the war they started. Consequences exist.
They shouldn't have had to fight that war in the first place. Israel was constructed out of British colonialism, and has no right to exist in its current form.
@@andrealorenzato2550 When did the Jews pay Palestine for their land? I must have missed that day in history. I thought Britain invaded, then handed it to/sold it? ...to Rothschilds, which Britain had no right to do.
It should be noted that partitioning & separation between different cultures were the norm in most countries, especially Western countries until the 1960s. Palestine, India-Pakistan-Bangladesh, apartheid South Africa, segregation in the US, etc. Im just glad that most of the world has moved beyond this stupid notion.
Interesting story, one issue: nothing mentioned about violence from Arabs against Jews since 1929, if we take major clashes. However, a lot of good points, especially that 2 state solution is an utopia. Realistically, there can be only 1 state: it will be either Jewish or Arab, depending on which side will have power of the moment. Sinwar made his move, now it’s the moment to face consequences…
You forgot that the original British mandate for Palestine included a much larger territory, that of trans-jordan. Hence the original two state solution was already implemented by the British.
2 States solution mostly is a solution embraced by international , it is never a solution accepted by either side in this conflict. 2 States Solution allow existence of a continued Israel's statehood, which is rejected by Hamas and PLO. It demands Israel to give up territory in exchange for peace, which is rejected by Israel.
@@michaelqdlap Recognized by PLO only after Oslo Accords is signed, but only lasted few weeks, fighting broke out again , peace treaty lasted short-term. It is back to usual after PM Rabin is assassinated.
@@michaelqdlap I wouldn't use this video as the only history. It has a clear bias. Where I appreciate the heart for equality in the region the video lacks a fair look at history. She comically said that Israel never wanted a 2 state solution, although from the beginning of the UN's 2 state plan Israel always agreed. Palestine and the surrounding Arabs declined every time. Mainly because they were the majority, secondly because they never wanted a Jewish state. The Palestines could have had a state almost 50 years ago, but instead of accepting a deal (which I admit would be a tough pill to swallow) chanced it by ganging up against Israel and still losing. (This war was another clear evidence of bias where the video tried to downplay all of Israel's neighbors attacking at once).
@@michaelqdlapnever the plo accepted Israel - you’re more than welcome to review the accord for yourself. They left this point for future negotiations that never materialized
Excellent. The video, laughably, call the ‘48 War an “intervention.” This is dissembling - - and intentionally hiding the truth. The Arab nations in ‘48 engaged in an illegal, aggressive, unjust war . An UNUST war is serious business - - with serious consequences to the belligerent loser. If one “takes your chances” and engages in an Unjust war (and then loses) you don’t get the status quo ante-bellum ! You lose. Territory. The right to return. Palestinians need to come to terms with the fact that Israel has a perfectly valid claim to a nation state , and that their losses in their UNJUST Wars of ‘48 and ‘67 are irreversible. Reverse the 3 “No’s” of Khartoum, and say YES to Peace, Recognition and Negotiations - - all in good faith. It is time to end the needless suffering (and many injustices to the Palestinian people as well) through Truth & Reconciliation. Pax
jordan did take them in and even given them half share of seat in parliament, however , the palestinian never satisfied and wants the full destruction of israel, which fuel the war for 1967
The only way this'll work is if you literally split the land in 2. Not this gibberish, nonsensical 'split' where you scatter millions of Palestinians across 22% of their own land. And this will never happen bc Israel will never allow it. Hence, there is no '2 state solution'. 💔
Just allow me to add a minor - insignificant - detail... most of the Israeli jews in 1947 did not came from Europe or America, they were expelled forcefully by their homelands, living there for more than two millenia... jews expelled from Morocco, from Lybia, from Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Iraq, Iran... This was the jewish nakba that none talks about. Perhaps the jews do not play this victim card because they now managed to thrive, to prosper, to develop.
On that land the only type of state that is viable is a multi-ethnic democracy where all groups have equal economic rights and equal civil and political rights. An ethnostate was never going to work. In general ethnostates end up dehumanising outgroups and committing atrocities against them. That has definitely been the case here. The group that is many times more powerful than the outgroup needs to make amends for stealing the outgroup’s land. The onus is not on the dispossessed group to accept their losses with equanimity. The best way to make amends is to offer to integrate the outgroup. Give them housing and jobs. Extend to them the right to vote, to run for office, to practise their religion, to go on strike, to assemble peacefully, to speak freely. If they have a stake in the state's success because they are citizens of that state, the grievances are addressed and the conflict dissipates. The second thing that the more powerful group must do is provide a heartfelt apology to the dispossessed group for stealing their land, imposing apartheid conditions on them, and committing a lot of war crimes. Something like Kevin Rudd's apology to the Stolen Generations would be appropriate. A lot of healing can come from a genuine expression of contrition.
Either split the country in two properly, with a straight line or border down the middle, or it must become a secular state! A state that does not consider any religion as an official religion. A state that would treat all its citizens fairly and equally, regardless of their religion.
@@BebsDotter The current state of Israel is already secular. They even treat Muhammadist better than Christians & Jews. Look up the status quo of Temple Mount which is a very special place for Christians & Jews yet they can’t pray openly there, only the Muhammadist can. BTW the Muhammadist stole that land in the 7th century similar to the Europeans stealing America. So if anyone is occupying stolen land it’s them.
@@Marsfi16 Sounds like you just don’t understand meaning of secular state Pal!! The term secular state actually describes a state that is officially neutral in matters of religion… that is NOT Israhell!
My understanding from listening to historians is that the closest there was to a two state solution was the Camp David Summit in 2000, where Ehud Barrack offered up pretty much everything to Yasser Arafat that he asked for (like 97% I think) and most Arab leaders were encouraging him to take the deal. He walked away and didn't come back with a counter offer. Also the Nakba was a response to the Arab Israeli war that had been going on prior. This doesn't excuse the settler problem or any of the continued violence but it does explain that a two state solution should be very possible, since it almost happened then.
I spotted a lie;- Israel never kicked out Palestinians during the Nakba, Arab nation leaders told Palestinians to leave because they wanted to wage war against Israel but instead they lost the war and the Palestinians were left stranded with no land to return to because in a war; the winning team gets the land. Five Arab nations simultaneously waged war against Israel but they lost.
I'm not sure if this is entirely true, as the hagannah and their militia were intimidating ppl. Playing machine gun fire on loudspeakers, bombing a theater etc. Even a massacre at Deer Yassin or something like that. I forget the name, but even the jews admit that happened. What you say though, is the one piece that I am trying to get answered with clarity. It's a significant part that I've yet to see clearly covered. So thanks for mentioning this.
There are truths and omissions here as well as obfuscations. Love how someone in 12 minutes has all the answers! Despite 2,000 years of exile, the Jewish people never lost hope of a return to their ancestral homeland, a land in which at least some Jews always remained. Indeed, this notion is embedded deeply in Judaism. That for a moment doesn't mean that Palestinians aren't attached to the land as well. There is plenty of tragedy in the conflict between Jews and Arabs. I, for one, am tired of the facility of arm chair sages with a one-dimensional view that everything must be a zero sum game. Israel doesn't have to be wrong for Palestinians to be right and vice versa. Peace may come when both sides stop self- righteously claiming that their opponents are all evil and only those agreeing with them are righteous. At days end, both peoples are going to have share that single piece of land and find a way to make it work, regardless what the pundits of TH-cam University pontificate. It will still be true after another 100 years of bloodshed. To be sure some will call this "naive, neo-colonialist settler apologetic, feel-good revanchistic, illusionary relativism blah, blah blah." Nevertheless, it remains true -- no matter how many tweets, twits, comments and angry emojis are spewed to the contrary.
I'm not convinced Israel isn't an apartheid state. But aside from that, no one has claims to "ancestral lands" or any of that nonsense. Because if we did, all of humanity would be claiming "ancestral lands" everywhere.
@@marco1173 the European Jews who were encouraged to move to the British colony have a 2000-year old claim backed by religion. The Nakba was the biggest expulsion of Palestinians from Israel, but they have been getting systematically forced out and exterminated since the British made their Mandate. In effect, both the Palestinians and Israelis have a religious claim, but the Palestinians **actually lived there** and are still getting forcefully deported. The difference between "my ancestors lived here 2000 years ago" and "I lived there until last week" is pretty stark.
Yeah if a guy with a gun comes into my house, kicks me out, tells everyone now it's his, the police does nothing, and when I take him to court, the judge rules that we should just share MY house, I can't imagine me being okay with it either.
@@finding13emo just like UK..they want muslims out bec they are terrorizing the country..
Super well said!!
Now you know how the Indians feel.
I hope Palestine will be free inshallah
Of course. Other than 3000 years of history, Jews has nothing to do with this land
"If I don’t steal your home, someone else will." - Yaakov, Israeli Settler
Yaakov is from New York, so Yaakov, American settler
Too late now.
you mean jacob from brooklyn
It's jacob.
@@he_is_a_GOOBER_dont_disrespect Arafat was from Cairo.
I disagree. Just because Israeli settlements were built around West Bank during the decades doesn’t mean they can’t leave. Germany lost 20% of their territory to Poland after WWII.
Israel will never give up those settlements willingly. Not unless the entire world use military force to push them out of the West Bank and now Gaza. I dont think the world is prepared to do that.
There is only two conclusions to this. The first is that Israel and Palestine give up fighting with one another. Israel cease to exist and a new government is formed that is made up of Jews and Palestine.
The other conclusions is a never ending globe war that will never cease to end. Israel will expand its boarders in name of security. While simultaneously pushing Palestinr out of their boarders. Till eventually the world is forced to step in and force Israel to stop its conquest in name of security. Which would basically mean world War 3. This is right now the most likely scenario.
Only cause the world made them
like "palestine" lost most of its territory when they wanted to fight wars against the jews and then lost. Maybe dont start wars over and over again :)
@@raymondyu412 Who is going to make the settlers leave? The Israeli government is unable to do that. The West and Arab states won't do that. And the Palis can't do much.
And also Poland became 20 % smaller country in terms size of the land. The country which gain the land was USSR with British and American approval
🍉✊"If the Olive Trees knew the hands that planted them, Their Oil would become Tears." Mahmoud Darwish🍉🤲✊
Speaking of..."where olive trees weep" is a must-watch documentary too
The Olive trees are mentioned many times in the Hebrew Bible. The people who wrote the Bible were NOT the fakestinian imposters.
yea now he enjoys 72 virginis lucky him
Agree 👍
There will never be a palestininan state, since there is no such thing as palestinian people
You missed the part rabin’s shooter was influenced at the time by Netanyahu’s speech
and the talmud
Or the minor fact that Jordan 🇯🇴 is "palestine"😂
You missing part that Sharon went into coma after giving back Jewish land. He wasn’t supposed to do.
Methinks it was more than influence! These are extremist right wingers!!
@@Erinvllc Palestine is Palestine you demon.
The ICJ said these Israeli settlements in the West Bank must be vacated and settlers removed.
@@globalman2 yea time for Palestinians to move out
Can’t wait!
@@Sammich4839
Or what or they will keep sending them.bombs to use?
@Sammich4839 you must realise at this point when the pendulum swings all of you loons are going to prison for this kind of speech
They have been doing this all the years by the US support.
@@Rookiemi defending themselves?
+ France support too.
Don't forget the British watch 5.28 min. As we know they have done that in many countries. UN is nothing but representatives of the Western world. Which wants to rule the world and make everybody else dependent on them
@@eriksonywall western government and people support the apartheid genocidal fake state
And then the US portrays itself as a protector of the Democracy all around the globe.
She forgot to mention that in 1948 5 Arab nations declared a genocidal war on Israel. Just a minor detail.
yup she missed such a minor detail
Was that before or after they moved to the region and started stealing land?
@VictorVictory-ht2cp Ssshhh they don't like truths. Just love gaslighting.
@@user-wl5ke5xn5f Gazalighting!
@@VictorVictory-ht2cp Palestine was a region of Jews and Arabs. Arabs refused Jews and attacked civilians. The land was not stolen. The Arabs declared a genocidal war and civilians fled and were not invited back. That is what happens in war. Ask all the people who were colonized by Muslims and subjugated with Sharia law.
76 years of injustice
Yes injustice meted out to Israel and Jews by the violent Arab terrorists
Keep crying.
@@batahmuddas429 cry more
@@dannyarcher6370 no one is crying here except you
@@ilyas_elouchihi lmao, jal Jazeera has been crying nonstop for the past 10 months 😂😂. Nothing will be able to stop Israel
The two-state solution has always just been a way to keep the Palestinians calm and sitting at the negotiation table while Israel continues to confiscate land and build settlements , and that is the two-state solution
@@user-kb1rl5qy1k you are right , we all know that Scotty beamed them over from across the Galaxy after Israel was created , just so he can give them a hard time
@@user-kb1rl5qy1k you f little liar 😂
But with delicious irony the Palestinians could've had everything they wanted, including Jerusalem as a shared capital, under the proposed 1947 UN partition plan! They listened to that rabid antisemite Amin al-Husseini and rejected it out-of-hand! They've suffered the consequences ever since!
If the Arabs had accepted the two-state solution in 1947, the Palestinians living in the sovereign State of Palestine today would be the most prosperous Arabs anywhere, notwithstanding the oil wealth of the Gulf. While the Arabs were justified in their anger about the creation of Israel, the only people they have hurt by their refusal to make peace has been themselves.
@@BS-vx8dg Israel never ever wanted a 2 state solution , think about it , do you really think that Israel is ever going to NOT want the West Bank and Jerusalem ??
Better to call the unwelcome settler what they are: squatters
Larcenous, murderous, barbaric, and racist squatters.
What about the tens of thousands of Jews who were expelled by the Arabs after 1948 from neighboring countries in North Africa and the Middle East and their homes and lands were taken? By your logic, Egyptians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Tunisians, Libyans and Iranians are all sqautters? Instead of protesting here, ask your government to take in the Palestinians just like these expelled Jews were assimilated into their society by the Israelis.
squatters don't kick you out of your home or destroy it while they hold you at gunpoint.
Squatters live in houses that are empty.
@@nenadvojinovic7913 All settlers are terrorists. Not all terrorists are settlers.
@@jamesbarnes3832 Israel expel Palestinian refugee base plan D which call hostiles and pretend hostile villages, areas of towns and cities had military logical to
As a foreigner, I appreciate the clarity and perspective of your presentation. Your final challenge to leaders is a logical and excellent conclusion. Thank you.
In 1993, the USA played a role in aiding Israel, fully aware from the beginning that Israel would never recognize a Palestinian state. Now, in 2024, there have been no negotiations, yet the USA continues to veto any recognition of Palestine, justifying this by claiming that negotiations-which ended over 20 years ago-must be respected.
the US loses its status of the worlds superpower when it comes to Israel. they become clows that have no idea what to do and look weak in a blink of an eye. The US Cannot be apart of negotiations between the two sides since it follows the Rules of AIPAC. If Israel want to continue to be on the map then it has to give the idea of its Jewish Supremacy and the ideoligy of Zionism
8 Americans are currently held hostage. What are you talking about?
8x Israelis @@MrWhitmen1981
Take away the veto power! Send Israeli zionists to the UK AND EUROPE!
@MrWhitmen1981 sheren aqla was an American the word kitchen workers had an American with them the rest were European
They got segregated roads for Palestianisn and Israelis. This is insanity
They don't. There are roads that cannot be used with Palestinian license plates, but Palestinians can get Israeli license plates, and in fact many have them.
Well if Palestinians kept their hands to themselves that wouldn't happen. and fyi it's Israelis who can't use Palestinian roads for fear of being murdered but those Palestine terrorists use both roads without any harm then you wonder who is really the oppressor.
and it is called Apartheid State of Israel
@@Sh3ryn You're an imbecile. You speak as if Palestinians appeared out of nowhere to torment Israelis. It's a fact that Palestinians are descendants of Ancient Judaeans who chose to settle, then convert to Islam and Christianity. European Jews only have 2% DNA of ancient Judaeans. Which is why Israel was almost created in Uganda and changed at the last moment. GTFOH YOU CLOWN
@@armchairquarterback4529No apartheid but security measures. As the Palestinians choose hate and terror over peace andco existence.
A thief can never be an owner
true bur very cringe
@@anthonyweller3077 Then give back what you stole in 640!
Yes islam is full of thiefs they never become owners
Arabs literally colonized (stole) this land!
then the arabs have to leave... are you sure abot that? Israel accepts them
Excellent documentary. Thank you!
Because Bantustans and Balkanization never work 🤷🏻♀️ simple as that. There’s a big difference between a decentralized confederacy, and tiny nation-states battling for traditional territories at each other’s borders.
Because colonization never works.
The two state nonsense must be forgotten permanently. Only a single integrated state with equal rights to all of its people is feasable. Whether the integrated state is called Israel, palestine or any other name is irrelevant.
Peace will only be achieved when all the citizens of that land are treated with dignity and respect and the oppressed people are allowed to progress, contribute and benefit from the state they live in.
big problem is tha Arabs are completely unfammiliar with that. ´democracy, civil rights, freedom of speech are completely foreign words for them. That is why countries like Syria, Iraq , Lebanon that are formally republics function are hereditary absolute monarchies.
The Zionist are racists. They will not allow what you are suggesting.
"...Zionism... is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition. Following the establishment of the modern state of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports the development and protection of the State of Israel as a Jewish state..." - wiki
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United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination"
Zionists are Jewish Supremacists.
There is no Israel. It doesn't have the right to exist. Might does not make right and seizing land by force doesn't make it yours. A biblical claim to a land that has nothing to do with you doesn't make it yours. Occupation and atrocities committed over decades bars you from ever having a claim to a land that has thoroughly rejected your foreign presence. There is no Israel, only Palestine and it belongs to the Palestinians be they Muslim, Christian, or Jew.
@@EddyManfred there is already a two state solution in place: Israel and Jordan
@@GHMRoding stop spiking that sh1t, there's still a chance that you can feel human again
Brilliant work, Dena 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Crappy work. You guys can cry all you want. Israel will always stand strong and there is nothing Muslims can do about it hahahaa😂😂
Propaganda
@@ny-je2cm total Islamist propaganda
@@Godzillamonstrosity what about using your brain, you poor hating thing))
@@Godzillamonstrosityfree Palestine from occupation
This video makes the argument that Israel will not allow for a 2 state solution by using the examples of Rabin (which was a more complicated situation than the video alludes to) and Netanyahu, the only two leaders of Israel ever to oppose this plan. Meanwhile, the video fails to mention how many times (including in 1948) Palestinian leadership has rejected the 2 state plan. This video also acts as though Hamas leadership of a Palestinian state is a viable option -I don't see how a leadership that brutally murdered the opposition party and funneled billions of aid dollars into building tunnels under densely populated areas and has not allowed for an election since they've come to power could be trusted to lead the people.
Be honest if you were practically a third world country, at least in terms of digital and technical advancement and having no advanced secret services, but your neighbour who opposes your rule immensely has all of those things listed, would you trust an election in your land? Or do you think you'd have pretty reasonable concerns for it being bought out/altered.
Very good analysis! Simplistic but complete. Well done!
Crappy analysis
@@Godzillamonstrosity Tell me you're a jew without telling me you're a jew 🤣
@@RONNYfromOZ I'm a Hindu nationalist actually. But I will be very proud if I were a Jew. Hindu nationalists are hardcore supporters of Israel.
76 years of victimhood and a refusal to get their act together. Permanent victims disliked by anyone who has had to deal with them. Go ask neighboring Muslim countries how they feel about the troublesome Palestinians.
There will never be a palestininan state, since there is no such thing as palestinian people
The current arrangement is already a 1-state (but not a 1-state solution) for both jews and palestinians. It is an israeli apartheid state >> which everyone can see plainly.
The next 1-state (and a true 1-state solution) has to be based on equal rights with no exceptions for both the israelis and the palestinians.
Otherwise it is the zionists who need to find a new home.
It can't e called Isreal!
@@jessicamarkham-brink6009 agre.
Nope...all the surrounding Arab states , now cursing Israel on a daily basis, will take in their fellow Arabs...you will see
A one state solution run by Hamas, with Jews as the minority? There will be genocide then, too. Read the Hamas charter.
The next state needs to be a palestinian state, and THEY get to decide who has which rights. Us telling them what should happen there is how this whole shit show started.
The Palestinian Right to Return is enshrined in International Law. It can never be voted away or dismissed by any agreement without the full consent of the refugees and their descendants. Any agreement that ignores it has and will fail.
So we ignore international law - now what do you do?
No, we do not ignore international law. Refugees from Europe should be able to go back and refugees displaced from Palestine should be able to go back to all of Palestine.
Yup, it's promoting ridiculous ideas like that which makes solving this issue impossible. What the heck are those UN clowns even thinking. Seriously, do they actually expect Israel to let in 5 million people who descend from a refugee from 75 years ago who now live elsewere.
@@politicas3361Typical arrogance your state is failing fast FASTER THAN YOU REALISE PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
@@politicas3361we who? And why you sound proud of an open injustice? U nzi?
The Palestinian Authority had many opportunities to establish its state next to Israel, but chose conflict each time. It's too late now. Maybe five autonomous areas within Israel are possible, but if not negotiated for now, that opportunity will be gone forever too.
exactly, also i can't belive there are people in the comments denying that the land of Palestine is historically a Jewish home...
What I've been saying for years. One state where Jews, Muslims and Christians live together with equal rights.
I'm atheist, but this makes the most sense, and there needs to be a minimum of a newly established parliament. Comprised evenly of people from each peoples. I know this wouldn't entirely be the solution because you'll always have the RW Israeli and even moderates, probably with jealousy and resentment, for no longer being that dictatorial hand over the lives of Palestinians, but this would hopefully put them somewhat in their place.
If Palestine WANTS that. Who are we to say? One State; Palestine!
Yep Israel should allow Palestinian people into there country it's not that hard.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld That's just stupid. Israel doesn't have a country. They're trying to steal someone else's.
There is such state before and it is called Palestine
Your commentary is, as always, so logical, and, very much needed to help bring sanity to an insane world. Thank-you.
@@lawrencemullin2643 👍🏽
Extremely biased
Excellent!! so clear, painfully clear. Thank you.
Were they expelled by Israel or were they ripped off to run there when neighboring states attacked Israel?
Context counts, thank you for the sharp presentation so desparately needed today.
Very useful and purposeful topic. Thank you for your efforts.
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allah has chosen israel for victory mashallah
This offers a perspective on the Israeli settlements in the West Bank, but it skillfully avoids addressing a crucial part of the historical narrative: why and how Israel acquired the West Bank in the first place. The focus is often placed on the settlements and their impact on Palestinians, yet the underlying cause-the 1967 war-is glossed over.
When Arab nations, including Egypt, Jordan, and Syria, collectively declared war on Israel, their aim was to eliminate the young Israeli state. The outcome, however, was not what they had hoped for. Israel, in a war of survival, managed not only to defend itself but also to capture significant territories, including the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Golan Heights. These territories, acquired during the conflict, became central to future negotiations and are at the heart of the modern-day settlement issue.
By omitting the broader context of the 1967 Six-Day War, the documentary paints an incomplete picture. While the settlements have certainly been controversial, they are a direct consequence of a war that was initiated with the goal of eradicating Israel. To discuss settlements without this context risks misrepresenting the chain of events that led to the current situation.
Furthermore, Arab nations at the time could have taken a different approach after the war-perhaps through diplomatic engagement or international legal measures. But instead, the focus remained on hostility and a refusal to recognize Israel’s right to exist, which only prolonged the conflict.
The settlement issue is undoubtedly complex, and while it raises valid concerns about the future of Palestinian sovereignty and Israeli security, it cannot be viewed in isolation from the events that sparked it. Peaceful resolutions, as elusive as they may seem, will require both sides to acknowledge the full scope of their shared history, including the causes and consequences of the wars that have shaped the region.
The failure to address the root causes of these conflicts-whether by media or political actors-ultimately hampers efforts to find sustainable solutions. Broader insight into the reality of these events is critical if we are to move beyond cycles of violence and toward a more peaceful and just resolution for all involved.
My gmail account got deleted by youtube moderation that's insane! over pro palestinian sentiments im not kiddin im even scared to talk my mind right now.
be careful with what you say online guys! stay safe!
there's more to it then that, there's something you aren't telling us.
@@4T3hM4kr0nI it's more than that, Not "more thEn that (1st grade English Grammar)!!
@@4T3hM4kr0n well i can't prove it beyond my word sorry. my only evidence is the chain of events that got my google account deleted, just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it didn't happen to me.
i can pinpoint exactly the moment it happened but everything my account has ever done is deleted for some reason.
i saw a video about that blonde jewish woman talking about Pal being an ideology and the hipocrisy of it.
@@4T3hM4kr0n @4T3hM4kr0n well i can't prove it beyond my word sorry. anything i put here other than simple words gets deleted.
@@snagrbuster7343 i don't know how is this surprising when google has deleted pal from google maps.
Dear bots, it's been 11 months now.
People know the truth 😂
Most important reminder 😂
For seggs والدي يحبني
I know but just look at their news reports on Lebanon they still yapping because that money keeps flowing
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Let's point to the elephant in the room.
*Didn't we already try removing all the settlements from Gaza?*
Well explained!
I guess the Palestinians shouldn't have voted NO on all the previous Two-State solutions that had been offered.
You mean AFTER acknowledging Israel as a state the Palestinians didn’t accept a 5 year temporary Palestinian state, spread across geographic disconnected ‘buntustans’ with all of its infrastructure effectively controlled by Israel. And remember after Olso Israel didn’t just fail to stop Illegal settlements, they ramped up the process. So even if they had accepted this miserable excuse for a State that Isreal could crush at any moment it wouldn’t have protected Palestinians from being ethnically cleansed from their homes.
There fixed it for you.
They rejected the 1947 UN partition plan. They offered one country for Muslims, Chistians, and Jews--something the Jews already in Palestine also wanted. European Jewish immigrants demanded a Jewish state. That was the whole idea of Zionist colonization from the beginning.
The West Bank map is like watching cancer spread.
Thank you for everything you do..thank you for being brave. I could never visit Palestine since Israel is occupying and terrorizing that area. Its sad and i hope one day we can see a free Palestine and maybe one day ill be able to visit and not think that i am going to be killed.
The British government massively limited the number of jews who could go to Palestine to prevent this problem, the predecessor to the IDF, Hagganah actually became powerful from illegally smuggling European jews into Palestine, the British government at one point was fighting alongside the arabs against jewish rebels. Hagganah was funded primarily by America, America created this problem, Britain did not.
Yes, it's funny how nobody questions why the British left 😂
I thought it was British Baron Rothschild who petitioned the British government to move the British Zionist into Palestine with the Balfour Agreement 1917?
A lot of ignorance here
The British divided British Palestine into an Arab Jordan and a Jewish Israel but couldn’t see it through to the end
@@doctordan1668 No they are accurate,, the Brits left when they could no longer manage the situation which the US neglected and supported the jews
perfectly put
hamas and hezbollah has never agreed a 2 state solution , they accept a Palestinian state where Israel is without Israel
Well Hamas did in their 2017 Charta, as it has been said in the video. It was a door open for negotiation to at least discuss paths for a future everybody can agree on. All better than this madness right now, no matter whether you're Israeli or Palestinian, what's happening in Gaza and Lebanon right now, can't be agreeable to any human being, no matter what the reason might be.
If the sides at least would have begun talking to each other, this horrible loss of human life on 7/10 and after that in Gaza and Lebanon maybe could have been avoided. As slight as this chance might have been - still better than the reality right now.
@@RedPlanetarist Israel must rule the world with their Messiah and King, the Lord Jesus Christ. "Yet have I set my King upon my holy hill of Zion". Zionism is the only way to get world peace.
@@davidlafleche1142it ain't worth shit
@@RedPlanetaristPeople don’t want that though. All that they want is everyone to die for their false deranged gods
@@RedPlanetarist hamas/Palestinians have proven that if giv en a state they would use it as a terror state. Israel left Gaza in 2005, Gaza received billions in aid. What did they do with the money and humanitarin aid??
Exceptional video!
Ive been thinking the same… thieves don’t respect borders, armed and violent illegal settlers don’t agree to get along. Decades of their feral behaviour have demonstrated this, reasonable societies don’t commit genocide on their neighbours.
76 years of victimhood and a refusal to get their act together. Permanent victims disliked by anyone who has had to deal with them. Go ask neighboring Muslim countries how they feel about the troublesome Palestinians.
@@Comments1-vc8jg That’s too funny… You know it is 76 years , yet your comment is attempting to justify theft, illegal and armed feral violent occupation? Brutal apartheid system and full intent Genocide? That is a zionazi excuse. And another characteristic of zees is: to claim /steal even the victimhood from their actual victims. 76 years of victimhood …. they have right to defend themselves against 76 years of oppressors , usurpers and they have right to self-determination. Go ask a normal sane human about that.
@@Comments1-vc8jgzip it zio land thieves the whole place is called Palestine there is no Israhell and never will be keep living in delusions
The only solution is a One State solution with equal rights for Palestinians and Israelis!
This would be worse, Israel would just take the whole thing. Erasing Palestines
I wish it was possible, but it would not be the utopia many think it would be. First, we are talking about two populations that have been at each other's throats for decades; they can't just coexist with a snap of a finger. Second, although there are extremists on both sides, there is no denying that the extremists on the Palestinian side have the more extreme goal of literally killing every Jew. How do you get them to coexist? Third, the neighbourhood, i.e., the Middle East, is not conducive to a stable democracy, and typically, democracies thrive when surrounded by other democracies. Here, this utopian One-state solution would be surrounded by countries who, for various reasons, don't want this to work out (Iran would be the biggest problem with the help of its proxies.)
I agree!
It already exists, it’s called the state of Israel where arabs and jews and Russians enjoy equal rights.
@@theoriginal4ever7 You're full of it. Israel is trying to literally kill every Palestinian right now as we speak.
I am ready to live in palestine however as an African it would be tough to adapt.
Ghana has always recognized.😊
Didn't Prophet Muhammad 55 year old who married 6 year old Aiesha did the same thing during his time ? Came to the same land and expelled all the jews from their mother land ?
Prophet Muhammad established his country within Saudi Arabia. It was the Jews who came from Egypt who took over the Canaanite land by killing every tribe there and made it into their own. Their so called tribal god even commanded killing the babies and children of Amalekites, which was referenced by Netanyahu and used as inspiration in this ongoing genocide. Baby killers in the past, and in the today. As for Aisha, she became the leading female scholar of Islam.
Notice the well-deserved awards in the Sana's background
How sad that the USA would create the same conditions it fought a war to abolish for European nations. What happened here?
You're assuming that "WW2" was more than a d!ck measuring competition between colonizers. It had nothing to do with morality or justice. One colonizers beat out another colonizer and history tells the result of that conflict.
Look at the history of Manifest Destiny. Settlers pushing further and further into the frontier, displacing its inhabitants and ignoring their government's official treaties until the government annexed the new land. Reservations growing smaller and smaller to feed the appetite of the colonial power. The former inhabitants demoted to second class citizens living under apartheid. Israel takes after the US in the worst ways.
Corruption, money, power. The same thing that always happens.
USA did not fight the war for Europeans we wanted to stay out but then Japan attacked us and Germany declared war which forced us in
I’d be careful drawing comparisons with WW2… you might let it slip that Palestinian leadership was EXTREMELY friendly with the nazi party for almost two decades. Or that after the war, Amin Al-husseini was extremely eager to continue his buddy hitler’s scourge against Jews regardless of their affinity for Zionism. I’ll say that again; Palestine was led by a literal nazi from 1948-1953. I think it’s safe to say a welcoming culture wasn’t exactly on the Palestinian priority list when Jews began flooding the area.
let me remind you something jordan was part of the land called palestine. it was carve out as another state. only the remaining land was suppose to be partition. Israel accepted the three way partition. but arabs would not give a square inch. the fought Israel lost three times.
"for the Palestinians the right to return is at the center of their struggle and identity..."
Why?
When I was 12, my family moved from L.A. to Portland. I didn't want to move, but I accepted it as it was what had to happen. 50 years later, I don't have a pressing need to buy my childhood house (I could afford to buy it, but why?), nor do I have a great desire to move back to L.A.
In every other conflict that involved large displacement of people, there has been no pressing desire to return. The formation of Bangladesh involved the displacement of 10M people (mostly Hindu out of Bangladesh) yet the Hindus haven't stated a desire to return to their old homes. Prussia was eliminated as a country (originally formed in the 1500s, but the germanic peoples were displaced mostly to East Germany in the early 1950s) but no one to my knowledge is asking for a reformation of Prussia. The long conflict in Cyprus still hasn't been completely resolved, and there was a significant displacement of people, but no one is calling for a "right to return" there either.
In the novel Dune, the Fremen had a phrase, "We will never forget, and we will never forgive"
If you want to know why there is never peace in the middle east, the answer is religion.
Dont forget the Partition of 1947 which led to many Hindus, Sikhs, muslims being, driven out homes, murdered, raped and intimidated.
1000%. I am Jewish, my grandparents lost their home and property during the war (in the 1940s, same time as Israel’s formation). It would be crazy for me to go back and kick out the people living there now. tens of millions of people displaced during World War Two but only Palestinians have this special right.
"my family moved from L.A. to Portland"
your family wasn't kicked out of LA by an army trying to build an ethnostate in LA. callous, stupid comment.
@@nestwr you are not even slightly addressing his point
@@nestwr In Bangladesh the civilians were thrown out by an army, and in Prussia it was the occupying power (the Soviets) who forced them out, and in many other instances in history, so my comment is still valid.
Build starbucks, kfc, and nike factories in gaza and west bank. Our corporate overlords would never allow their businesses to be destroyed
during world war II the US Air Force had to pay Ford Motors for damages to Ford's factory in germany during the many bombing campaigns against the german arm's industry.
So you are probably on to something
Well there is already KFC, Popeyes, Pizza Hut and Domino’s in the West Bank.
Incredible. Keep fighting the good fight, against the modern evil
West Bank was never an independent Paly state. It was part of Jordan
Al jazeera will never change
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Cancer is a “two-state solution” within one body. How well does that usually work?
stormbytes: "Cancer is a “two-state solution” within one body. How well does that usually work?" Well, in 1947, two historic lands were partitioned. The India subcontinent was divided into Pakistan and India, and the British Mandate in Palestine was divided into a Jewish state and an Israeli state. The division in India was horrifically painful, with literally millions of people uprooted from their homes to move to where "their people" resided. You can argue that it was wrong, but the Hindus and Muslims learned to accept it, and that two state solution has worked out pretty well. But in Palestine, the Arabs rejected the partition (for admittedly good reasons; I personally think it was wrong of the UN to do that), tried to destroy Israel, and in the process lost what they were supposed to have in the partition. It sucked, yes, but if they had accepted that partition over 75 years ago, today the State of Palestine would be home to the most prosperous Arabs in the world. But instead, Arab leadership opted for a strategy of continually pounding their own head with a hammer, and they wonder why they are so miserable. It didn't have to be like this.
Cancer doesn’t work because, like the Arab nations, it continuously tries to take over the other state.
@@BS-vx8dg In your analogy muslims that continued to live in India after partition would be equivalent to the Israeli Arabs. India currently has a fundamentalist Hindu government that exploits hostility towards muslims and destroys historic mosques in order to rebuild ancient Hindu temples on the same spot. What do you think that is equivalent to in Palestine?
Also, India and Pakistan both have nuclear weapons. Would you let the Palestinians have nukes to make things equal?
Ive been living under a rock. Omg This issue goes back a whole century
Yep, it starts before WWl. It's insane. I was a staunch Israel supporter. One day things just started not adding up. I started asking questions and doing research. I was appalled at what I found. I couldn't believe how blind I was.
@@leeannsickels8074 Same. I've been doing some research in the past weeks and it feels like I'm finally waking up to reality.
@@andile5945 This is all the massive the Hamas propoganda machine. And it's everywhere. And you fell for it. They are simply rewritting history. While i watched it when it wasn't history, but current events.
This is all Iran, and the SOLE reason, with its War proxie dogs, Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis, that there is not peace in the Mid East
..You seem to have forgotten they are the butchers of Oct 7th. And those weren't war deaths. That was gang raping women and gutting them alive. And making their family watch. Burning whole families alive. Bayonetting babies. Dismembering living people...etc,etc. There was so little recognizable left, it took Israel 10 months to identify all the bits and pieces, so they could be identified and buried in the right grave. A d the carnage happened while they were still alive.
Hamas wanted to force Israel into war. And that's exactly what they got.. And now you are whining because it's not a Disney movie...
@@anika141 You are being fed Hamas propaganda. And you ate it. They are rewritting history. And you bought it. Congratulations.
@@diannshoemaker6419 nah, we are waking up to the Zionist propaganda.
Thank you for the video, very simple way of explaining the main issues and the truth...
Great work. Your voice is important! Thank you!! 🤟🏼🍉🕊️💚🧕🏼
It's very nice to omit details that contradict your narrative
Thank you for making things Clear!
One state solution would be extremely difficult as well because there will inevitably be segregation and discrimination within the country. Basically apartheid without the current big walls. The land stealing will continue, the bullying will continue, settler violence will continue, Palestinians' livelihood will be hell-like. I cannot see these 2 populations living together peacefully.
Time for them to return to Jordan and live with their people
@@politicas3361 Many Palestinians descended from Jews and Canaanites. Also, it was Muslims and Omar (RAA) who helped Jews return to Jerusalem after kicking out the Romans, and here's a cancer reverse begging for Dajjal arriving sooner.
@@politicas3361 you're demonstrating my point very well. Thank you
@@politicas3361Time for the not real jews to go back to Europe and America.
Absolute nonsense. You are appeasing israeli terrorism
Let them build these settlements. Eventually they will have to turn them over to the Palestinians when they leave
This is a very misleading, poor understanding of the Israel-Palestine problem, in fact a lot of her story is fabrication. This just makes the problems worse.
She doesn’t mention religion .
And she doesn’t mention that Arafat withdrew from the Oslo accords. And then Abbas in 2005.
Does not give a single example of stolen land, not one.
It’s not very intelligent.
And as you said it reinforces the problem, spews hate especially in the gullible west. The moderate Arab countries know what’s going on better than the Western democracies.
The treaty that marked the end of the Ottoman Empire's control over Palestine after World War I was the Treaty of Sèvres, signed in 1920, which officially dissolved the Ottoman Empire and CEDED large parts of its territory, including Palestine, to the Allied powers like Britain and France as League of Nations mandates; essentially placing Palestine under British control.
The suggested solution is equally hopeless. Letting all displaced Palestinians back in and redefining the state as offering full rights to all means the effective dissolution of Israel, as the then majority (Palestinians) would vote and struggle for that and that alone.
(After such a contentious 70 years, wouldn't you?).
While I definitely side more with the Palestinian people in what happens now, it's hard to ignore that the catastrophe of 1948 was the *millitary outcome* of an Arab attack of both local militias and aid from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Egypt.
Then there's the 1967 war, almost entirely due to Egypt, first by blocking naval vessels, secondarily by reimposing the blockade after being told the consequences, while moving large parts of its army up to its borders with Israel in preparation for a fight.
This idea of fighting it out, and outside intervention repeated in the 1973 Yom Kippur War where again, Egypt and Syria, along with expeditionary forces from many other Arab countries, tried to overthrow Israel by force.
The sad thing here is that Palestianians, and their allies in neighbouring countries, tried to resolve the question to their satisfaction with force, 3 times. Israel won all those battles decisively, and now those same people bemoan Israel solving the question to its satisfaction through force.
((Not saying I agree with their policy now, I really don't, but the kettle is calling the pot black here)).
And every time people try to solve it through force, a lot of the innocent people who just want peace for both sides end up suffering : (
Wow, a rational rebuttal! Good comment, my friend. I see it the exact same way. I'm on the side of the innocent Palestinians. I don't know why so many that support them go into glazing terrorism and genocidal ideology, though.
The palestinans were offered 99% of the west bank and Gaza in 7 different occasions in the last 40 years. They always said no and reacted with violenece and terrorism. They dont want to live along side of Israel, they want Israel destruction. You dont believe me? Then ask a palestinian yourself and you'll see.
On the contrary, If you were propose a palestinian state living peacefully along side israel the vast majority would say YES, but they all know such an indipendent state will create a scenario similar to Gaza #2, a state that promotes terrorism and violence less than 5 km from Israel main cities and populated areas. No one wants to test this.
They were offered? It was their land to begin with! So ignorant.
So Israel is trying to offer Palestine their own land? Tbf even I’d react bad, what a scam 😂😂😂
@@down-to-earth-mystery-school wrong, both have equal claims to the land, its a 50/50 but when a side say they want it all it will always result in conflict.
The right to return is impossible.
Didn’t Israel withdraw from Gaza. Look what happened there? Why are you so duplicitous and only report half the truth.
Delulu
That's the point, they didn't, they just locked them like animals in zoo, and then Palestinians attacked to take THEIR lands, Israel started killing innocent people. Israel already killed 30000 people, and hamas killed only 1400 (I condemn hamas for what they did, but Israel much worse than hamas)
Israel didn’t do it out love. It was just very costly to create settlements there. Afterwards they barricaded Gaza to starve them
@@SA-uz9sn they dont barricade there without reason, u have something called hamas on power and they launched rocket from there, thats why they built wall there to contain them
@@SA-uz9sn The Gazans did not starve. Every day thousands of Gazans made good money in Israel and everything was available there.
Many Arabs told fellow Muslims to leave prior to the war of Independence thinking they would win in 1948 and resettle. They lost the war they started. Consequences exist.
They shouldn't have had to fight that war in the first place. Israel was constructed out of British colonialism, and has no right to exist in its current form.
Answer: Palestinian refusal to accept Israel.
The victims refused to bow to the thief.
Why accept israel for what ??
@@skrizwanulhaque9513 Because the palestinians Will finally have a state. Otherwise stay with the cities already under they full control.
@@angus7278 When you buy Land It Is yours. Nothing stolen
@@andrealorenzato2550 When did the Jews pay Palestine for their land? I must have missed that day in history. I thought Britain invaded, then handed it to/sold it? ...to Rothschilds, which Britain had no right to do.
Excellent documentary AJ
you. you are very important. please take care. and stay safe.
It should be noted that partitioning & separation between different cultures were the norm in most countries, especially Western countries until the 1960s. Palestine, India-Pakistan-Bangladesh, apartheid South Africa, segregation in the US, etc.
Im just glad that most of the world has moved beyond this stupid notion.
Normally, newly arrived migrants don't get to get their ethno-state.
It's interesting hearing the two sides describe the same events differently.
Interesting story, one issue: nothing mentioned about violence from Arabs against Jews since 1929, if we take major clashes. However, a lot of good points, especially that 2 state solution is an utopia. Realistically, there can be only 1 state: it will be either Jewish or Arab, depending on which side will have power of the moment. Sinwar made his move, now it’s the moment to face consequences…
You forgot that the original British mandate for Palestine included a much larger territory, that of trans-jordan. Hence the original two state solution was already implemented by the British.
2 States solution mostly is a solution embraced by international , it is never a solution accepted by either side in this conflict. 2 States Solution allow existence of a continued Israel's statehood, which is rejected by Hamas and PLO. It demands Israel to give up territory in exchange for peace, which is rejected by Israel.
But in the video, it says that PLO recognised Israeli statehood, but that recognition wasn't returned.
@@michaelqdlap Recognized by PLO only after Oslo Accords is signed, but only lasted few weeks, fighting broke out again , peace treaty lasted short-term. It is back to usual after PM Rabin is assassinated.
@@michaelqdlap I wouldn't use this video as the only history. It has a clear bias. Where I appreciate the heart for equality in the region the video lacks a fair look at history. She comically said that Israel never wanted a 2 state solution, although from the beginning of the UN's 2 state plan Israel always agreed. Palestine and the surrounding Arabs declined every time. Mainly because they were the majority, secondly because they never wanted a Jewish state. The Palestines could have had a state almost 50 years ago, but instead of accepting a deal (which I admit would be a tough pill to swallow) chanced it by ganging up against Israel and still losing. (This war was another clear evidence of bias where the video tried to downplay all of Israel's neighbors attacking at once).
@@michaelqdlapnever the plo accepted Israel - you’re more than welcome to review the accord for yourself. They left this point for future negotiations that never materialized
Excellent.
The video, laughably, call the ‘48 War an “intervention.” This is dissembling - - and intentionally hiding the truth.
The Arab nations in ‘48 engaged in an illegal, aggressive, unjust war .
An UNUST war is serious business - - with serious consequences to the belligerent loser. If one “takes your chances” and engages in an Unjust war (and then loses) you don’t get the status quo ante-bellum !
You lose. Territory. The right to return.
Palestinians need to come to terms with the fact that Israel has a perfectly valid claim to a nation state , and that their losses in their UNJUST Wars of ‘48 and ‘67 are irreversible.
Reverse the 3 “No’s” of Khartoum, and say YES to Peace, Recognition and Negotiations - - all in good faith.
It is time to end the needless suffering (and many injustices to the Palestinian people as well) through Truth & Reconciliation.
Pax
Palestine has a flag? So what? LGBT people also have a flag…
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Ironic considering Israel is often considered the gay capital of the world...
@@AMabud-lv7hy indeed. A country that respects and values the life of all who reciprocate.
Exactly where in the Arab world it is safe to be gay?
@@JacquesCukierkorn Israel talking about value of life is the biggest irony of the century
@@ryandanngetich2524 only for antisemites like you
Wasn’t the idea of Palestine invented around the same time as PLO was founded?
There's a Palestinian state, it's called Jordan!
What meth have you been smoking white boy?
Why didn't Jordan and Egypt give the Palestinians a state between 1948 and 1967?
Because “victim” Jews aren’t meant to even kick Palestinians out of their homes in the first place,
jordan did take them in and even given them half share of seat in parliament, however , the palestinian never satisfied and wants the full destruction of israel, which fuel the war for 1967
So the Palestinians have a Jordan flag without a star , so what.
Long live palestin 🇵🇸👈
The only way this'll work is if you literally split the land in 2. Not this gibberish, nonsensical 'split' where you scatter millions of Palestinians across 22% of their own land.
And this will never happen bc Israel will never allow it. Hence, there is no '2 state solution'. 💔
Just allow me to add a minor - insignificant - detail... most of the Israeli jews in 1947 did not came from Europe or America, they were expelled forcefully by their homelands, living there for more than two millenia... jews expelled from Morocco, from Lybia, from Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Iraq, Iran... This was the jewish nakba that none talks about. Perhaps the jews do not play this victim card because they now managed to thrive, to prosper, to develop.
Most of the jews at that time are european jew who are survivor of nazi holocaust
On that land the only type of state that is viable is a multi-ethnic democracy where all groups have equal economic rights and equal civil and political rights. An ethnostate was never going to work. In general ethnostates end up dehumanising outgroups and committing atrocities against them. That has definitely been the case here.
The group that is many times more powerful than the outgroup needs to make amends for stealing the outgroup’s land. The onus is not on the dispossessed group to accept their losses with equanimity. The best way to make amends is to offer to integrate the outgroup. Give them housing and jobs. Extend to them the right to vote, to run for office, to practise their religion, to go on strike, to assemble peacefully, to speak freely. If they have a stake in the state's success because they are citizens of that state, the grievances are addressed and the conflict dissipates.
The second thing that the more powerful group must do is provide a heartfelt apology to the dispossessed group for stealing their land, imposing apartheid conditions on them, and committing a lot of war crimes. Something like Kevin Rudd's apology to the Stolen Generations would be appropriate. A lot of healing can come from a genuine expression of contrition.
FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE GAZA FREE Cisjordanie
Great journalism from South Africa
Either split the country in two properly, with a straight line or border down the middle, or it must become a secular state!
A state that does not consider any religion as an official religion. A state that would treat all its citizens fairly and equally, regardless of their religion.
@@BebsDotter The current state of Israel is already secular. They even treat Muhammadist better than Christians & Jews. Look up the status quo of Temple Mount which is a very special place for Christians & Jews yet they can’t pray openly there, only the Muhammadist can. BTW the Muhammadist stole that land in the 7th century similar to the Europeans stealing America. So if anyone is occupying stolen land it’s them.
@@Marsfi16 Secular? It's an ethnostate with more that 60 laws discriminating by race within it's borders.
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Sounds like you just don’t understand meaning of secular state Pal!!
The term secular state actually describes a state that is officially neutral in matters of religion… that is NOT Israhell!
זה המצב בישראל היום ואני אומר את זה בתור יהודי חרדי שגר בישראל ורוצה מדינה דתית לערבים יש זכויות מלאות והם מנצלים אותם בשביל לרצוח
Thank you for making this video! It has so much important information. I truly hope Palestinians get freedom.
So much injustice in 2024 😢
You are reaping what you have been sowing since the 7th century,
@@sschaubal what would you have said to the Jews in Nazi Germany? Or to Indians in Churchill Era during Bengal Famine?
@@sschaubal Or perhaps you are sowing misery on the people because of your cult book from 2000BC that said God commanded killing babies and children.
I wonder where this straight haired brunette American reporter would live freer and safer. In Israel or Palestine.
In Palestine for sure
My understanding from listening to historians is that the closest there was to a two state solution was the Camp David Summit in 2000, where Ehud Barrack offered up pretty much everything to Yasser Arafat that he asked for (like 97% I think) and most Arab leaders were encouraging him to take the deal. He walked away and didn't come back with a counter offer.
Also the Nakba was a response to the Arab Israeli war that had been going on prior. This doesn't excuse the settler problem or any of the continued violence but it does explain that a two state solution should be very possible, since it almost happened then.
This is excellent journalism!
I spotted a lie;- Israel never kicked out Palestinians during the Nakba, Arab nation leaders told Palestinians to leave because they wanted to wage war against Israel but instead they lost the war and the Palestinians were left stranded with no land to return to because in a war; the winning team gets the land. Five Arab nations simultaneously waged war against Israel but they lost.
I'm not sure if this is entirely true, as the hagannah and their militia were intimidating ppl. Playing machine gun fire on loudspeakers, bombing a theater etc. Even a massacre at Deer Yassin or something like that. I forget the name, but even the jews admit that happened. What you say though, is the one piece that I am trying to get answered with clarity. It's a significant part that I've yet to see clearly covered. So thanks for mentioning this.
If my religion led my nation to misery, poverty, as well as loss of freedom and choice, I'd be thinking deeply whether I'm worshiping the right God.
Most of the Jews in Israel are secular.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
The only people that kept the Palestinians to have their own state was the same Palestinian leadership
1 state, no segregation, religious tolerance
yeah... as if the palestinans are religiously tolerable .
@@davidkatamadze1201 your racism tells us everything we need to know about your intentions
That's pretty much achieved in Israel.
as long as religions exists , they won't be any peace or tolerance.
save Gaza
There are truths and omissions here as well as obfuscations. Love how someone in 12 minutes has all the answers! Despite 2,000 years of exile, the Jewish people never lost hope of a return to their ancestral homeland, a land in which at least some Jews always remained. Indeed, this notion is embedded deeply in Judaism. That for a moment doesn't mean that Palestinians aren't attached to the land as well. There is plenty of tragedy in the conflict between Jews and Arabs. I, for one, am tired of the facility of arm chair sages with a one-dimensional view that everything must be a zero sum game. Israel doesn't have to be wrong for Palestinians to be right and vice versa. Peace may come when both sides stop self- righteously claiming that their opponents are all evil and only those agreeing with them are righteous. At days end, both peoples are going to have share that single piece of land and find a way to make it work, regardless what the pundits of TH-cam University pontificate. It will still be true after another 100 years of bloodshed. To be sure some will call this "naive, neo-colonialist settler apologetic, feel-good revanchistic, illusionary relativism blah, blah blah." Nevertheless, it remains true -- no matter how many tweets, twits, comments and angry emojis are spewed to the contrary.
I'm not convinced Israel isn't an apartheid state. But aside from that, no one has claims to "ancestral lands" or any of that nonsense. Because if we did, all of humanity would be claiming "ancestral lands" everywhere.
@@marco1173 the European Jews who were encouraged to move to the British colony have a 2000-year old claim backed by religion. The Nakba was the biggest expulsion of Palestinians from Israel, but they have been getting systematically forced out and exterminated since the British made their Mandate. In effect, both the Palestinians and Israelis have a religious claim, but the Palestinians **actually lived there** and are still getting forcefully deported. The difference between "my ancestors lived here 2000 years ago" and "I lived there until last week" is pretty stark.