Who makes the best baitcaster?..Daiwa Steez SV TWS, Shimano Antares, Abu Garcia MGXtreme 2- Part 2
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- Full simultaneous tear down review: Daiwa Steez SV TWS Abu Garcia Revo MGXEXTREME 2 Shimano Antares. What makes up these 3 reels. How do they compare. And which is the best tool of the trade!
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Very well done. I enjoyed the numbers details as well as the judgement information. I have been considering a Steez as my next reel. This makes me want one even more.
The disassembly is very helpful, helps gives me the balls to take apart my reels and clean em. Can always go back and use your video as a reminder where everything goes. awesome detail
Great vid I mean that. I don't often sit for a 50 min video on you tube, but that my friend was worth watching. Two Thumbs up subbed
I really love your videos man. You haven't taken the reel I own apart, but from what I've seen as well as what you say they're all pretty similar. I say that because it's given me the confidence to take it apart when it comes time to service it.
Same for most of us here👍
mate, DO NOT thank us for watching! We have to say thank you! You invest so much time in this and it is sooooooo helpful!! Thank you so much!
I actually hope you see this hahaha, i mean ths video is like three years old haha
Thanks for the kind words.. But without you guys and the time your guys spend here.. I wouldn't be able to put out the content
Where have you been all my life.... Awesome vids and thank you
Another informative & unbiased review. Nice work again...
I don't think it makes you a fan boy. Infact your extremely fair and fact based and that's why I watch. I appreciate everything you do.
would love to see a review by you on the Chronarch MGL! your channel is super legit:)
Your videos are awesome and very informative. Do you ever do anything with 13 fishing reels?
Thx for the review! I had both Daiwa and Shimano, here in Brazil we fish a lot of peacock bass, and they are much more strong then large mouth bass, and after a few seasons, I started to note that the daiwa gears, lasts longer, and on Steez and Zillions, I don't know why, but after disassemble, degreasing and reassemble a couple times, they always seem smoother... can you explain this?? Thx again, and sorry for my poor english.
Another Wonderful video! I like the steez SV TWs
Again The very best on the net!
regarding the missed coating on the Mg frame, i'm going to guess it's a corrosion inhibiting e-coat, it looks too thin to be a powder. I will guarantee that the 2 indents with no coating at all is where the frames are held in a jig during the e-coat process. I've been in industrial coatings for a while now and I can't buy anything without first scrutinizing the finish. The second step is figuring out where/how it was hung, even if it's a blender or toaster. I can often find the hook mark or shadow in the finish from how it was hung.
Thank you for all the informative videos. I have a questions with regards the Steez A TW. I bought one couple months ago and used it about 10-12 times but just yesterday I notice oil leaking out of the gear box side. Last time I used it I notice my casting distance was way shorter and today I notice when I turn the handle it sounds "grainy". Any ideas? Thank you.
Like your bantam awesome reels.You show how good they are one time.
The difference in colour between main gears is probably just due to different grades of Alloys as opposed to special coatings. I know from experience that a clear anodised 7 series aluminium will turn a slight yellow/gold colour while most 6 series will stay it's natural grey colour.
Best fishing channel
My favorite reel so far has been the Johnny Morris carbon lite reel
I've returned 6 of these JM carbon lites. The gears strip out way too easy. Great reels, for about a year, then junk.
love your channel.
Are you going to get a Steez A? I'd love to see a breakdown/comparison video
agree...good vid
I’ve waterfoweled hunted for nearly 30 years every day of the season sometime up to four months Iff the season would allow it. And I’ve gone through what they say is the latest and greatest shotguns. Only to find that some didn’t hold up to conditions. And were work to breakdown maintain. Until you find those guns. Design That met your needs hold up. And breakdown maintain. ((. Well!!! I wish there was a shotgun adviser that explains thing as well as you do with these reels. So a person can have more knowledge on what he or she is looking for. For the money. Please keep doing these. P. S. Would’ve saved me a hole lot of money with the shotgun thing. Just got Curado 300 HG. And the tatula 103 SV waiting on open water Patiently 😀
hello, I would like to see a quantum baitcast too.
Great video as always. The Antares is just outdated. It was released in 2012 or so and Shimano has not updated it for the US market. Honestly I'm not sure if they will unless they decide to bring back DC reels. I see the Metanium MgL as their top of the line low profile stateside. I wasn't surprised the Steez won this match up.
Also, would like so much to see a review from you on the alluminium framed STEEZ.
Yea i actually agree with you mostly. I just love fishing gear iam addicted to buying it. I don't think lews is better than diawa and shimano. I think they are better for the bass industry but that is speaking $100 to $350 overall. If you look at price peformance build quality. There rods are fantastic light and strong. Now i dont know about the cheap stuff. I also know that the slx probably took the spot form the lfs for $99 king. I think lews customer service is great also. But don't get me wrong i love my diawa and shimano. I wish lews would break out the bucks and build there own parts. I totally agree with you on abu Garcia. I love there vintage reels. But there new stuff is all cheap feeling. There really expensive for what youre getting. There charging 3 and $400 for reels it seems the others are charging $250 to 300. But i know lews shares with abu and Johnny moris and some of the bass pro stuff. But i think lews puts more effort into them. Just my opinion. But hey man i love your videos. Hey do you clean gear. I can send you some high end reels to review and clean. Just let me know.
What would you recommend as the best light saltwater bait caster reel in the $300.00 range thank you
I’ll ask again, how do you get ANY distance out of elastic? I’ve tried since they came on the scene.
I just bought some of the worms and have NO expectations of throwing them more than maybe 50 ft. I’m just wondering.
I find that MOST of the casting energy is absorbed by the incredible stretch no matter how I rig them ( the whole soft plastic gamut). Maybe I’m too feeble.
Also, people that become stagnant in their selection of equipment companies ( not you or I) miss out on some very useful tackle. My tackle (removed by thieves) was eclectic. I had some of everything. Our 5500s and 6500s worked fine on muskies and anything smaller. I certainly appreciate your take on tackle.
I couldn't agree more with the Antares being out of sync with bass fishing reels. I feel like they tried to make it be too many things at once, an in turn alienated it & made it not a perfect fit for anything.
I feel the best iteration of the Antares/ Calais is when there was a 100 size & 200 size. (Especially with the asv deep spool option for the 200 size).
It just made perfect sense.
It'll be interesting to see what Shimano does going forth with the Antares line.
exelente video gracias buen dia cual recomienda para especies mas grandes yo vivo en colombia y pesco en la selva tucunares de 15 a 20 lbs cual es mejor abu shimano o daiwa le agradesco su colaboracion
Have you ever reviewed the Abu garcia revo4 premier? I want to know in what category this reel is. Thanks
can't wait for you to pick apart the curado k.
Quickly running out of funds...lol
Just ordered a bg and saltist, and tat sv along with a tat sig elite 7'6....gonna order the curado K as well.
My company downsized back in november....no paycheck since april...100% reliant on TH-cam, patreon, and amazon/ebay affiliate links...
dammit man ! i hope things turn around for you quick !! as always, the work is appreciated.
Tackle Advisors I love your work man. This sounds like an excellent time to do a classics vs classics round table review. Maybe that vintage bantam, vintage abu 5000, and a vintage daiwa?
Hi Advisor! I need a dc reel! I have vintage shimano in perfect condition. A bantam 1000 tournament edition. Perfect as new. (Jdm)
Love the Calcutta Te, 14 mile wind and no backlash. Wish I never sold it lol
The TE reels are still some of the best round reels ever made!
I would love to see your thoughts on the new Lews custom Lite
Or the Pro TI
So Excellent.
You should do unboxing and review of sixgill reels
We'll see how things go. It's the same exact reel as a kastking and favorite and shishamo. Same parts different colors.
I'd love to see how a Quantum PT series reel compares.
can you do Team Lew's Hyper Mag Speed Spool SLP Casting Reels when its out?
I think he might not want to do lews because it would make shimano look bad. Lews is by far the best bass fishing brand. Hopefully he sees this and try's to prove me wrong lol!
I’m confused why Daiwa claims the Steez SV TWS uses an Air Brake when I see you clearly talking about the mag brake? Any help or reason why it’s advertized as an Air Brake? I use Abu and Shimano but want to try the new Steez so when trying to research this Air Brake I cant find anything.
Hi. You are really making great videos. It is very wondering. For max brake Abu advertise 17lbs for mgx 2. You are saying this is about 6 lbs and rather bfs reel. I'm about to make a decision of What to buy. I believe in General Infiniti spool Braking system by Abu is better than shimanos SVS. I wanted to go with Abu cause of better casts, but ceirtanly 6 lbs of main brake is not enough for my application.
Nice vid, even though some of the reel talk was unclear. I purchased the mgxtreme2 for $250 & even that price i didnt think it was worth it, sold it the next day. AND no way id put that heavy azz antares on my nrx rods! I have 2 steez sv tw that i use more less for finesse stuff & metanium mgls for jig/big worm fishing. I'd say the metanium mgl would be a good alternative to the antares & the shimano aldebaran 50 a better option than the mgxtreme2. I really wanted to like the abu, but its been about my 5th time trying a high end reel that wasn't daiwa/shimano & being dissapointed.
Will you start reviewing lews also. Heck i will buy them and send them to you. Honestly i think lews makes the best for bass. I think the tournament pro, bb1, ti pro, magnesium, tournament custom all the higer end lews or as good as any.
I'll be reviewing them post icast. Not sure how you can consider lews the best. They don't even make any of their own products. Daiwa /shimano..... Everyone else. I used to think Daiwa was best in the baitcaster world and shimano owned the spinners.. Now Daiwa for the fw market stole the spinning market right out from under shimano. At every price point. And shimano is now keeping pace with Daiwa and their baitcasters. Although the 2 slx reels coming could really move the needle. Abu spinners suck... No way round that. I have the mgxtreme and a premier. The mgx is rough and the premier the ar fails repeatedly. I will say though I was pretty impressed how the lews felt at the classic. Felt better in hand than their cousins in the next booth over
Get the feeling the Antares/Calais is a Snakehead, Peacock Bass, Barramundi style reel. IMHO the Steez A, Z200, Z2020 surpasses it in casting and comfort and certainly serviceablilty. It feels like old hack in as far as no change in technology in this reel since it's inception, i have owned both standard ASV and dc models.
Have also owned 3 generations of Abu Premier bc's which were excellent out of the box but all deteriorated rather rapidly with loss of tolerances over the course of a Barra season or two. Strongly linked to their Doyo build i suspect.
When it comes to reels I have to be a fan boy of Shimano bc they’re the best g loomis and Dobyns for rods
Shimano reels are the best and g Loomis is owned by shimano so they got the rod world on lock to. Shimano is absolutely the best in the fishing world. And I just bought a 2021 antares dc and it is the best reel on planet earth. The 4x8 dc brakes system is bar none the best. And finally we have an antares dc reel that is comfortable to palm. I would love to hear this guys opinion on antares dc reels so many years later after all the negatives he had have been remedied. I could never justify a 500+ dollar reel like a steez when its just standard braking for diawa. There is no ground braking tech in the reel. Atleast Shimano has dc braking to try to justify the price. I love diawa reels. I own multiple tatula 150s, and tatula elites. But those are $160 and $240 which is a justified price. But diawa does not make a reel worth over $300
does anyone knows if a centrifugal shallow spool is it available for this model? seems it's out of production.
So there is a new Antares that’s much lighter now right a 2019 edition
Thank you for video, sometimes boring but worth to see )
The topic isn't all that exciting. I cut out probably 30% or more trying to get th times down. But when you compare multiple reels there's no way to cut it out. I tried editing like Philip Defranco...but it just jumps around and doesn't make sense. I'm going to cut some different videos...compress them down to 5 minutes or less. (my average view time for these types of vids is 7-9 minutes
I think your atention to details is very important and very profesional, no worry about my comment boring it was worth to see to know more, because other choise to buy 400& reel and after looking inside come to the same conclusion. Thanks for video.
Do you have any video on any new Calcutta or dc breakdown
Nothing on the new Calcutta or latest DC.. Although I've had the curado since November.
Which one is the best the Calcutta dc or the Antares dc
I have the old Calcutta 200 tedc and love it. Haven't touched any new calcuttas /conquests. I should have an Antares that I'm taking a Dremel cut off wheel and chopping it too pieces for a former shimano employee who wants a distance caster... Lol
Do you have/had the OG steez? Do you prefer Steez TW over it?
I had the original steez baitcaster and spinners from years ago. Sold them a looong time ago. I feel the current Steez SV TWS is the best all around baitcasting reel I've ever owned. It does pretty much everything great. Weighs next to nothing. Palms well. Casts great. Pitches and skips beautifully. Throws small and largish baits wonderfully. And can be fished one handed. I like them enough to be selling off a pair of Metanium DC reels
How's the MGX (not the extreme2)? If you had to rate it out of 10, what would you give it?
I really like the previous gen. Overall I'd give it a 6. WIth the steez being an 8.5
If the New MGX is the same as the Extreme. With a real drag, and different knobs, and slightly different spool. I'd assume it's a bit better than the original.
Told you Shimano's engineers couldn't rub 2 brain cells together. So basically what you are saying is Shimano stole their braking system from the late 1990's Ryobi limited Spectra 200 reel. Remember when Shimano calcula's were made of beer can aluminum with plastic internals. What crap. I love this channel. It's so entertaining.
oooh you said smooth! LOL 😝
I hate myself today!!!!!!
What would you look at for around $100 in a baitcaster? Say $80-120. I’m a saltwater fisherman, I own thousands in saltwater gear so I’m not looking to invest, i bass fish maybe 20 times a year from the bank (28’ center consoles with twin outboards don’t fit in many lakes in MD) and the Quantum pt reels I’d had are shot. The drag maxes out at like 5lbs and the single drag washer that looks like stacked paper is now past it’s prime after a decade of use. I am far to fidgety to fish plastics slowly so it’d be 99.9% power fishing. Hard to slow down when everything offshore wants it as fast as possible.
The reel was a Quantum pt energy hpt100 7.1:1 gear ratio. Just did the bearings and she spins like a top but the drag is supposed to be 13.2lbs and I’ve tried and tried I can’t get it above 5.5lbs! We just had 3 days in the 60’s here, had like a 2lb smallmouth strip me like a tuna and I realized I was in trouble! Handlined that bit** in though!
Ended up buying a daiwa fuego ct for $70 on Amazon... bought it last night at 11:30pm got it today at 5:30pm... prime is wonderful
@@jeffsmith8958 from what I've saw and heard it should do you fine. Around the hundred dollar mark you can get decent reels now from all the main manufacturer's. The Lew's LFS, Shimano Slx, and the Abu Revo X, though I have been hearing of lots of problems with where the sideplates release is on the Revo.
So, in other words, if your Steez didn't transform after your first clean-up, straight out of the box the Antares would easily be the smoothest hands down right? If the Antares is too heavy a reel and not that great a caster, may be the Metanium MGL could well be a better comparison with the Steez perhaps? Just a suggestion.
Yeah, it was a smooth reel (which is why i hate saying smooth) but it had a resonance during the retrieve. Still buttery smooth though. THe antares was smoother (ughh) at first.
Keep in mind. This review was based on $$$$.
The MGL vs MGX (non extreme) vs steez would be the ideal battle (shame abu lies about the drag)
The mgl from what i read on the interwebs has been experiencing some issues with quality control. including some videos a subscriber sent me of his.
I know you don't agree, but I still think the Micro Module Gears is the key to ultimate smoothness. Think of it this way, imagine if you keep cutting the teeth of the main gear smaller and smaller, what would happen? Well, eventually it would become just a smooth circle like a pulley which of course would be exceedingly smooth. I would go as far as to say I would be very surprised if any other reel other than a Shimano reel with Micro Module Gears would be smoother. In fact, I would say Shimano's competitors are well aware of that and they know in order to beat out Shimano they will have to find a way to cut their gear teeth smaller and with more precision. Having said that, smoother doesn't necessarily mean it is a better reel in terms of casting and so forth. However, the issue is once you have tried and experienced that extreme high level of smoothness, it will stick to your mind for most people. Like I said, I first experienced the Micro Module Gears a few years ago with a Conquest and to date that smoothness is still literally imprinted in my head. And that alone could mess with you as in creating a superior quality perception and thus causing a certain preference towards Shimano especially when it comes to extreme high end models.
@@Rascallucci As a guy that rebuilds gearboxes for a living, I caution about this. The whole job of any gearbox is to transmit force. More pitches per inch transmit just as much force as less pitches per inch. There is less vibration at the "start of life." However, the probability of stripping the gears under load is much higher because there's less backbone transmitting torque. Here I agree with TA that "micro module gearing" is a gimmick intended to sway the buyer.
I honestly think shimano makes the best spinning reels, abu Garcia the best old style round reels, diawa makes best saltwater reels probley even with penn. Lews makes the best bass fishing low profile baitcaster reels. Lews invented the low profile baitcaster so they all owe a little respect to lews. Exsphesley shimano being that lews is the reason shimano is in the fishing industry. They started by manufacturing lews gear for them. I love it all
Let’s be honest Daiwa and Shimano are the best brands for reels, my opinion but cmon, smoothest, best seals for low prices,etc
So which steez should I get? I love cranking
I'd go with the TW version in the 6.3..Thats the one I've been using.... Possibly get a longer handle if you find it's really needed.
If you are grinding big deep divers...I don't think they make a lower gear ratio...and don't think lower gear ratio swaps can be done.
hey would you be able to swap my 8;5;1 met mgl to a lower gear ratio??
I can't believe this whole time I thought your profile picture was an owl
HAHAHA......For real??????
UpFishCreek lol once I thought u were vanossgaming just looking by picture
Tackle Advisors yah it got me confused for a while like why would he use an owl as a profile pic for a fishing channel
While I can pwn some noobs and enjoy pub stomping as much as anyone......I haven't made a gaming channel!!!
If they remake MW2...i just might! lol
Tackle Advisors 😂😂😂😂😂
how does the Aldebaran 50 compare to these reels. Looking at trading my 2016 Steez SV for one. Please HELP
Damn.....now that's a tough one.....I don't have enough time on each reel to say what way to go. Really can't go wrong either way.
Buuuut......it goes without saying.....if you're a responsible tackle HO....you'd find a way to justify keeping the sv and getting the Alderbaran :)
Tackle Advisors thanks
I'd stay with the Steez SV TW. It's a solid reel. The Aldebaran is a good real but had a hollow and kinda geary-ish feel to it. I prefer the Steez for sure.
I asked Abu Garcia about why the reel doesn't achieve 12 pounds of drag pressure and they told me "We suggest you check out the drag washers. If they are fouled by lubrication or dirt you will have less drag pressure than when they are clean and dry."
Hey Scott!! Thanks again!!
I'm willing to bet....That since the max drag without having to really hammer the drag is closer to 5.5lbs. I bet they accidently thought that was Kilograms when they looked at the Doyo spec sheet.
If you saw the drag washer..it was squeaky clean. A few others have confirmed that they had max drag numbers closer to 5-6lbs as well.
Oh..and FYI I took the polishing wheel to the main gear. I think the main gear is chemically treated. Polishing didn't to anything to the surface. Yet the main on the antares is "glowing"it's now so shiny.
Did you want to see if I can get more drag out of it with a different washer setup (i may have some parts that'll work???)
Tackle Advisors I was curious what they would say if I told them I could not come close to the drag specs. I wonder if they are charging anything on the new expanded lineup now that they are getting 24lb of drag pressure.
Tackle Advisors that would be awesome! Feel free to try anything you think might want to try. I am game try anything and if you want see what the material gear is made up of you my permission to see what it is.
I was able to get a bright polish out of the pinion....so it is a different alloy or surface treatment.
Looking closer after a little more polishing. It looks almost wet. So it did take the polish well. Just doesnt become bright as brass. The steez was the same. Pinion bright silver. Main gear looks wet.
Whether it's a heat treat, chem treat or different alloy. It's a form of aluminum. No need to scratch test. I'm not a metallurgist.
Only thing I'd find out is if it is a chemically hardened gear. Kinda doubting that. Think it's just an aluminum alloy.
Tackle isn’t made to catch fish it’s made to catch customers.
No company is going to make a reel that lasts forever or that you will be satisfied with. They always want you to upgrade and replace worn out gear ⚙️.
There is also a vanity factor.
I wish they would bring the DC to the USA. Come on Shimano lol
@Hugh Mann 249.00 bucks. Very good price poinr.
LOL my Sedona 1000 egg beater makes 7 pounds
I just put a dip in, the order a new dc reel
Shimano never marketed the Antares as "lightweight" model in the line up,i don't understand what your fuss is all about,it's like complaining a Mercedes S class so over engineered. There's other model in shimano line up that target the fragile hand audience like metanium mgl and aldebaran. Antares is the rare product that focus on providing luxurious feel in the hand.
You want all reel company to produce homogenous product that's stupid,we should celebrate diversity in market
If you are a reel freak person, you would find that high end Daiwa baitcaster Japan reels are more refined and above all other company reels design.
Sam Nguyen maybe but i like to see more brands offering different reel creating more variety for the market to choose
What's wrong with being a Shimano fanboy?
LOL....not a thing at all :)
Shimano is overbuilt 😸 just to please the “anti-plastic” boomers
Shimano fanboy. 🙃