He is making a nice nuanced points....i completely agree.....create new institutions if you want to....its perfectly allowed....dont interfere with traditional institutions.....they have kept the knowledge alive till today and take it seriously today.....
But one thing is.. In Manthras, pronounciation is most important which can't be done perfectly when it is being self learnt from the internet or from a paper 😊
Extremely wonderful headshot! JSD never disappoints. The choice of words and sequence of facts in handling such delicate matter is extremely commendable.
The truth is that the Vedas are already open to all. Europeans, South Americans, and other nationalities are already learning Sanskrit and Vedas and pronouncing the mantras correctly. You can watch several videos on TH-cam. PM Modi went to Brazil this week ( Rio) and was welcomed by Brazilians reciting Sanskrit slokas. The world is changing very fast. However, it is also important that we must encourage and support Vedic schools in Tamil Nadu and elsewhere run by Brahmins.
The current education system is extremely subversive. We must find a true alternative which can both enlighten the society and be a mode of livelihood.
There are hapless indians who belong to the lower caste reeling under poverty and hunger.. Primarily because of the caste system. This discourse gives a feeling that Brahmins are the only ppl having issues in India.
Bhramins not having any political muscle to oppose structures / who can learn vedas may be true, but it does not also mean that Bhramins would embrace other communities with interest in Vedas with open arms. There might be one or two here and there who is all embracing but can't generalize. Remember at the end of the day vaidhika bhramins are also practicing their profession for pay and every profession comes with an attempt to protect their jobs. I still think that institutionalizing the study of Vedas can change things instead of arguing "who is stopping them?" etc.
"Pay"? You mean the 2k per month they get from become priests in Govt owned temples or the "donations" that come on the plate from devotees? You think in this racing-behind-money world anybody would kill for that job?
@parvatanaya , totally false narrative. I am learning and I know it's very tough. There's hardly anyone willing to learn, because you need to put hours of daily practice and little money earned, not enough to feed family decently. Can't go back to other high paying jobs. I know many students who love their traditional practices fully knowing the lack of money. Stop spreading fake news and you are welcome to learn
It doesn't matter whether the pay is 2K or 20K per month. It is about the privileged access to temple duties, officiating hindu ceremonies and rituals etc., however meager the salary be, that comes with blocking a significant majority of the society access to systematic education of the scriptures/rituals and the corresponding services that demand such training. I am not saying everyone would be interested in learning the Vedas or preserving/performing the rituals even if you offer, but even if a few may be interested and are showing an aptitude there is currently no means unless he/she is a bhramin. The converse is also equally unfair- where certain bhramin kids are being forced to take up the study of vedas because of economic or family circumstances when the person might have his heart somewhere else like business or science. Training and profession needs to be determined by one's character and aptitude and not merely by birth. So I am not placing a counter argument that is anti-bhraminical, but simply unable to see any fairness in the arguments placed by Sai Deepak either. India needs a massive social experiment to put traditional notions to litmus test. May be when that happens we will be back to a caste-free class-agnostic society which is probably how it was during the Vedic times. Otherwise how it would have been possible for a dacoit or a fisherman to have produced epics like the Ramayana or Mahabharatha?
@@parvatanaya There are already groups like Arya Samaj etc which are already doing it " studying vedas" . Whether Vaidhika Brahmins are opposing or not. Otherwise groups like Arya Samaj would not be able to do rituals like marriage ( sometimes with women priest) .
Non brahmins also can learn vedas. I personally know few people who learned vedas and few learned sooktas and upanishads. In multiple puranas and Manusmriti also it was mentioned.
Non Hindus can also learn. Who is stopping anyone? If someone dons the janeu, prays religiously, follows ceremonies, follows a satvic diet, be compassionate and learns the vedas, shastras and understand the philosophy of Upanishads, they are brahmin. Period. It's the behaviour that makes one a Brahmin, not birth.
Just learning is not enough. You need to have a particular mindset and thought processes to understand in depth. It is not MA or PhD that you can just learn by mote. For learning Vedas and advancing in Hinduism, instincts are very important It is a test of instincts and that is why Brahmins are the best.
He opposed it in a very subtle manner... Which in turn subscribing to castiesm and untouchability... As a Brahmin myself we need to work on this ... If not we cannot unite
He clearly said, you do what you want. Build your own new temples, new society, customs, whatever. But don't insist the other people not subscribing to your ideas (or following their old customs, traditions, beliefs), to change and follow on your footsteps. You have right to choose your path so do everyone else even if you feel they are inferior to your worldview.
I have done intercaste marriage without awareness too but its not about castes. My ancesral maternal grandma was very high caste than Chettiyar that they donated lands to build temples. Im from higher castes mixed from both maternal and paternal sides. My ancestral deity murugan and husband is different. God is kind. All gods is just about one god 🙏
I am attached to Vivekananda Kendra and like to invite you for a lecture on Swami Vivekananda, who is called Yuva Sanyasi, in the present terms to make Bharat Vishwa Guru. I also like to know, do you speak in Hindi
Caste system is the roots of Sanathana Dharma. Why so many divorces are happening now.? Because, of not following our traditions and cultures. JSD Sir is absolutely correct.
Well put ..learning Veda is no joke..PPL can't even learn basic slokas flawlessly. And they joke around with Brahmins shikha. Like in kapil sharma show.
1. Caste is not about God. 2. At a Spiritual level Caste is about the Guna of a person, 100 years ago a proper Brahmin practitioner with his diet and routines would find it easy to have a wife who aligns with his life style. 3. At social level, caste is about teaching professional skills to your kids as they could learn easily while growing up with their family and community. 3. Men being the primary bread earner (physical strength & logistics issue) was trained to take over the father's business and the woman had to relocate from her parents house after marriage. Hence women were allowed to marry outside caste.
Right. This may not seem fair in today’s society. But many ways of present day world may horrify the future. But one important disinction is between Varna and Jaathi, which we confuse because we do not use OUR words for them, but the word “caste” which is alien in origin and meaning and totally unapplicable to our society.m
For those who say varna was not by birth but by karma etc or believe such lies First question is why is there a need to divide people and restrict flow of knowledge? Will society be harmed or will benefit if every one gained spiritual and military skills or whatever trading skill they like?! It's such a waste of human potential! Still RSS and other right wingers call it scientific and useful!! Here: Well vedas : rigveda ( rigved mandal 10) gives definition of four varna, yajurveda mentions definition of chandal ( shudra father and brahmin mother ) and nishadha ( vaishya father and brahmin mother) which is proof of birth based varna system and discrimination (Google what it means), mahabharat has many stories about birth based varna system ( check what " sut" in sutputra karna means. Its not sudra like most believe) its a clan of people whose father was kshatriya and mother was brahmin ....as they broke code of varna system they are punished by having status lower than kshatriya., Bhagwat Gita is just part of mahabharat so in that context it does believe in birth based discrimination right there. When Krishna says women become impure due to war is because this varna system gets corrupted by women marrying outside of varna system!! He does consider it as corruption of religion! The guna and karma that Krishna uses are past life karma and gunas are assumed according to the which ever varna person was born into ( bhagwatGita 4:13). bhagwat Gita talks about paap yoni ( even women and vaishya are called paap yoni) etc and says one must do work of varna he was born into no matter how bad he was at it, and never do work of other varna no matter how good he is at it, (bhagwatGita 18:47).... If you read 4:13 along with 18:47 this will be crystal clear!! with this context all Gita is actually trying to implement birth based varna system and discrimination out of which caste system originated. In Valmiki krut ramayana Ram is called protector of varna system which is called varna dharm!! So from vedas to mahabharat, ramayana, puranas , all smritis including manusmriti are all talking about birth based discriminatory varna system out of which caste system originated!! so from vedas to ramayana, mahabharat, bhagwat gita all sanction varna system out of which caste system originated. So caste discrimination is a religious problem that needs to be addressed. No one wants to do that because whole edifice of religion comes down with it.
For those who say varna was not by birth but by karma etc or believe such lies First question is why is there a need to divide people and restrict flow of knowledge? Will society be harmed or will benefit if every one gained spiritual and military skills or whatever trading skill they like?! It's such a waste of human potential! Still RSS and other right wingers call it scientific and useful!! Here: Well vedas : rigveda ( rigved mandal 10) gives definition of four varna, yajurveda mentions definition of chandal ( shudra father and brahmin mother ) and nishadha ( vaishya father and brahmin mother) which is proof of birth based varna system and discrimination (Google what it means), mahabharat has many stories about birth based varna system ( check what " sut" in sutputra karna means. Its not sudra like most believe) its a clan of people whose father was kshatriya and mother was brahmin ....as they broke code of varna system they are punished by having status lower than kshatriya., Bhagwat Gita is just part of mahabharat so in that context it does believe in birth based discrimination right there. When Krishna says women become impure due to war is because this varna system gets corrupted by women marrying outside of varna system!! He does consider it as corruption of religion! The guna and karma that Krishna uses are past life karma and gunas are assumed according to the which ever varna person was born into ( bhagwatGita 4:13). bhagwat Gita talks about paap yoni ( even women and vaishya are called paap yoni) etc and says one must do work of varna he was born into no matter how bad he was at it, and never do work of other varna no matter how good he is at it, (bhagwatGita 18:47).... If you read 4:13 along with 18:47 this will be crystal clear!! with this context all Gita is actually trying to implement birth based varna system and discrimination out of which caste system originated. In Valmiki krut ramayana Ram is called protector of varna system which is called varna dharm!! So from vedas to mahabharat, ramayana, puranas , all smritis including manusmriti are all talking about birth based discriminatory varna system out of which caste system originated!! so from vedas to ramayana, mahabharat, bhagwat gita all sanction varna system out of which caste system originated. So caste discrimination is a religious problem that needs to be addressed. No one wants to do that because whole edifice of religion comes down with it.
Brahmin are the ones who appropriated vedas by writing brahmana and aranyakas. No where saptarisih, gotra are mentioend in Vedic samhitas. These people appropriated vedas for their personal financial gain.
Brahmana and Arnayaka are literally mentioned in the Samhita Part of the Vedas . But since you are illiterate on that , you start seething about Brahmins
Sir, first what do we / you mean by the word “ caste”? As I do not know the Portuguese language, and imagine that I do not know English, but do know all the languages of our country, then, what words would you use instead of “caste”? Varna? Jaathi? Or both interchangeably? If so, how can we use them interchangeably when each of them have different meanings and significance? Sir, by continuing to use a word imposed on us by an ill-meaning alien people who for a short period occupied our land physically, but occupying our minds for longer and deeper, we are harming ourselves and our ancient civilization irreparably. If we used Varna and Jaathi in their true meaning, wecwould not be so confused.
No one practices professions like we did ages ago then caste concept is itself redundant… inter caste means nothing now unless ur a hardliner following certain rituals you would prefer to have a partner who can blend in your schedule and lifestyle.. it applies to everyone nothing special for hinduism
Majority chunk of the society, are after the micro minority group who are neither specially, economically, politically, and nor constitutionally have any say. What Why are these are afraid of them. Poor fellows, what can they do.
He is calling out english education while piggybacking english only..is not it the plain fact that his specch sounds convincing to people because they all are attracted by English. I myself have gone through vedas and all mainstream scriptures very meticulously, these dont have anything worth efforts per se. But yes a particular segment of our population would feel upbeat and they tend to read and memorise it. This very explosion of internet has given better option to everyone and now they will choose the better.
I think the best way to keep up the vedic life is for brahmins to resort to farming. Dont own massive lands. just small pieces. study the vedas early morning, tend to the farm, cattle in the late morning and afternoon. It takes you back to nature, to god, to really matters, and away from all the maya of modern kaliyuga society.
@ I am Brahmin myself. And yes if they go back to farming, then they don’t need to depend on other sources of income. I am not saying, they should not learn different trades for knowledge sake. But if vaideekis also do farming then they don’t need to depend on others to support them, and will be close to nature and away from the evils of modern society. They won’t need reservations. AI is going to take over all those tech jobs, very few will have jobs as verification and test engineers. And we all have to eat, so farming will be crucial. Many Brahmin boys don’t get girls to marry, as all of them want rich and established guys. So, people who are in the vaideeki profession are even worse off, due to low income and not fashionable way of life. I am single too. Even after being in IT and in America. Real Brahmin life is boring and requires high discipline and most kids girls and boys don’t want it.
@meenu999 I am saying this as a Brahamin. The genesis for the degeneration of the entire Hindu society started with the Brahamins. It was the brahamins who were the first to leave their Dharma. I am not going into the reasons or the circumstances which paved way for that, but we need to follow our dharma, at least partially, if not completely.
@@adityasundar324 they did not leave their Dharma, they were just better situated due to their training to adapt to the new system during colonial rule. Since their occupation was learning, they could easily adapt to learning English and get into clerical jobs, which were the best jobs at the time for Indians, pathetic as it may be. The Varnas involved in vocational training and arts had basically nowhere to go and no means of earning a livelihood once their industry was destroyed by the British. So in a beggars world, the one with a single rupee is going to be looked on with contempt by those who have none or those who have no means of earning that rupee. Add to it the colonial narrative that intentionally instigated those who did not have that single rupee by pointing the finger at those who did, implicating them as the cause of all problems. What people do not understand is that those who caused the suffering are getting away with it Scot-free. While we point fingers at each other.
@@RG-un2vl It was not mere clerical jobs which was adopted. There were Administrative and Judicial jobs (which is Kshatriya Dharma) which was also adopted. The representation of Brahamins in the Bureaucracy of the British in Madras Presidency and immediately after independence of Bharat was disproportionate to the population of Brahamins in the Presidency. Generations of Brahamins have left chanting vedic mantras (I am not insisting that they should earn their livelihood through vaideekam). How many Brahamins do regular sandhyavandhanam? How many Brahamins have abandoned the poojas which was passed down for generations? I am talking about this. An analogy is given by the erstwhile pontiff of Kanchi Mutt wherein he states that the Dharmic acts are like peddling a bicycle. It is the good dharmic acts of our ancestors which propels us ahead. but we need to continue to pedal and not merely coast because after a point of time, the bicycle will slow down and finally stop. Brahamins should course-correct and get back to our roots and do our dharma. Brahamins are supposed to guide the entire community, which can be done only if brahamins practice it themselves. Now, I am not pin-pointing any particular person and making this statement. I am talking about the community as a whole across the length and breath of Bharath. We need to get back to our roots. Dharmo Rakshathi rakshitaha. Dharma Protects those who protects themselves.
@@parthdeshmukh5418 ok you can laugh at buddha , basavanna , Kabir , thiruvalluvar, dayananad saraswati, allama Prabhu ....etc.. they also told the same
@@parthdeshmukh5418 I am not Vedic , I am not arya , my ancestors did not migrate to this country , out ancestors were inhabitants of this Deccan plateau, ..my dharma does not discriminate on the basis of caste , my dharma believes in inclusiveness of society
First of all , Sai, saibaba was vedic? Next , although I appreciate the pursuit of V1 to hold on to Vedic dharma, but be honest , is it all about this pursuit? With his meagre income that exponentially increase with the devotion of V1,V2,V3,V4,....and falls with their decrease! Dear Sai, tell me what would happen what would happen to V1, if V2 hadn't then built the magnificent Tirupati Temple. And what if V3,V4... stopped going ro the temple and found a way to behold my beloved Perumal in their own hearts taught by the Vedas. It would be futile even to attempt to argue with a lawyer. But I ask you to contemplate on what you profess at times! Om Sat Sai From V infinitely down
Yep I'm disappointed with the "keep your reformist nonsense to yourself" which contradicts the Hindu saints of the past who were always tried to reform the society when there was injustice. Many Hindu saints fought very strongly against casteism yet some still want to hold onto it.
If caste system was abolished in 1948 why there is a need for reservation, caste based census, etc. Who is asking community certificate. Who sounds non sensical here?
@@Darius1328What he meant to say was don't interfere in temples practicing Ahama sastra by people having allegiance to non Ahama temples. Even assuming that what he said was wrong, why non believers and non Hindus want to control Hindu temples and their funds?
This is movie style thinking! Practical life is very different. Once the initial chemistry is over in a marriage, the brought up(which is different in different castes, regions etc.) will dictate the stability of the marriage. This is the reason our ancestors did not encourage intercaste marriages.
@@KrishnaAddepalli And yet multiple affairs were rampant between different social strata, castes. Love occurs with people who are equally aligned in some variable, marriage on the other hand always, Irrespective of cultural similarities or dissimilarities faces a problem of diminishing marginal utility without any exceptions as a greater deal of familiarity sets in. Remove the institution of marriage, remove the brahminism from your thinking
Boring... what is use of learning these concentrate on science and equality live and let live is simple ... true hindu stop talking and identifying caste ... where are u on people denied entry to temple ... ur so boring
Why are you so concerned about what a Hindu is doing? I don't agree with casteism though, nor do I agree with dravidian hypernationalism promoted by people like Periyar. I also don't agree with the dissociation of the Hindu identity by dividing it up into sects like it's Islam. I ALSO don't agree with "wHaT is UsE oF lEarnIng tHeSe conCenTraTe oN sCienCe aND eQuaLItY anD leT LiVe iS SimPle...". It undermines the importance of reestablishing a spiritual environment in our country.
@@Dailytreatsz I've addressed all your points. Your statement just lacks substance, it's hollow and amounts to nothing. It's not my fault you don't understand my response. But you still haven't acknowledge the truth in my statement, which is: you're not Hindu, why do you care?
@floe61 u can't address as ur words have no value because nothing changed ...still castesuim is the cancer and Pariyar save people from brahmin atrocities even ...he hates brahiminisum propagation not brahmins
@floe61 u don't decide who I'm ...what have u addressed ? Solving is addressing not writing even this u don't understand and tell others hollow blah blah blah ... boring again
U guys don't follow if u cross sea then ull loose ur caste. Ull do whichever benifits u. U sk any dkk if he is rich. They why these stupid dramas. No body is interested in u guy. Just people should be away from these shitty peoples politics.
Lmao here comes another Dehati Trad Baman from his Smartha Govardhan Math spreading his Smritivadi Shit. No one follows your Birth Based Copeashrama (Varnashrama), And soon people will realise how J Sai Deepak is the B Team of Smritivadi Smarthas. All civilized rich elites who have standards marry on the basis of quality, In Ancient India too, Royalty didn't gave a damn about Dehat Jatis. Royals like Harshavardhan had matrimonial relations in so called Different Varnas, And in a time when in the Era of advancement of Biological and Genetic studies, Some Dehat Inbreds want to stop ICM, But many Kings in the Medieval Period were shamelessly selling their daughters to Mughals🤣 And Trad Bamans wrote Bhavishya Purana mentioning Akbar as a Reincarnation of a Brahmin 🤡Irony Pro max. Genetically all castes have mixed & common Genetic Components. Non Smriti based Indic Religions Like Trika Shaivism, Mahapurushiya Vaishnavism, Nath Shaivism rejects Dehat Jati and Janmana Varna. Our team has already exposed all the Trad shit spread by Smarthas & Smritivadis in the name of Dharma in our video doc available on our channel.
Another Dehati Trad Baman from his Smartha Govardhan Math spreading his Smritivada. No one follows your Birth Based Copeashrama (Varnashrama), And soon people will realise how J Sai Deepak is the B Team of Smritivadi Smarthas. All civilized rich elites who have standards marry on the basis of quality, In Ancient India too, Royalty didn't gave a damn about Dehat Jatis. Royals like Harshavardhan had matrimonial relations in so called Different Varnas, And in a time when in the Era of advancement of Biological and Genetic studies, Some Dehati want to stop ICM, But many Kings in the Medieval Period were shamelessly selling their daughters to Mughals💀 And Trad Bamans wrote Bhavishya Purana mentioning Akbar as a Reincarnation of a Brahmin, Very Ironical. Genetically all castes have mixed & common Genetic Components. Non Smriti based Indic Religions Like Trika Shaivism, Mahapurushiya Vaishnavism, Nath Shaivism rejects Dehat Jati and Janmana Varna. Our team has already exposed all the stuff spread by Trad Smarthas & Smritivadis in the name of Dharma in our video doc available on our channel.
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He is making a nice nuanced points....i completely agree.....create new institutions if you want to....its perfectly allowed....dont interfere with traditional institutions.....they have kept the knowledge alive till today and take it seriously today.....
Respected Sai Deepka sir, veda must be learned through a learned teacher, with swara and niyamam.
Its not easy to learn veda without a learned master.
Sai knows his stuff...don't mess with him and expose ur ignorance in public😅
@@lokashankar2602 I have shared my opinion, No one is above criticism in Sanathana Dharma.
There is a difference between opinion and truth 😊@@venkateshgh5699
But one thing is..
In Manthras, pronounciation is most important which can't be done perfectly when it is being self learnt from the internet or from a paper 😊
@@praveenm6204 Yeah one needs guru's guidance and supervision.
He has made a wonderful point.....loved it
Sai Deepak....admire his bold, erudite, logical reasoning...
Superb message...
Keep it up ,Sai
Extremely wonderful headshot! JSD never disappoints. The choice of words and sequence of facts in handling such delicate matter is extremely commendable.
My pranams to you. Stay blessed 🙏🙏
The truth is that the Vedas are already open to all. Europeans, South Americans, and other nationalities are already learning Sanskrit and Vedas and pronouncing the mantras correctly. You can watch several videos on TH-cam. PM Modi went to Brazil
this week ( Rio) and was welcomed by Brazilians reciting Sanskrit slokas. The world is changing very fast. However, it is also important that we must encourage and support Vedic schools in Tamil Nadu and elsewhere run by Brahmins.
Sai Deepak Garu as usual YOU ARE A WONDERUL PERSON
The current education system is extremely subversive. We must find a true alternative which can both enlighten the society and be a mode of livelihood.
There are hapless indians who belong to the lower caste reeling under poverty and hunger.. Primarily because of the caste system. This discourse gives a feeling that Brahmins are the only ppl having issues in India.
You a white man?
Bhramins not having any political muscle to oppose structures / who can learn vedas may be true, but it does not also mean that Bhramins would embrace other communities with interest in Vedas with open arms. There might be one or two here and there who is all embracing but can't generalize. Remember at the end of the day vaidhika bhramins are also practicing their profession for pay and every profession comes with an attempt to protect their jobs. I still think that institutionalizing the study of Vedas can change things instead of arguing "who is stopping them?" etc.
"Pay"? You mean the 2k per month they get from become priests in Govt owned temples or the "donations" that come on the plate from devotees? You think in this racing-behind-money world anybody would kill for that job?
@@deepthirao6381 People still think it is done high paying profession to keep trade secret!!!
@parvatanaya , totally false narrative. I am learning and I know it's very tough. There's hardly anyone willing to learn, because you need to put hours of daily practice and little money earned, not enough to feed family decently. Can't go back to other high paying jobs. I know many students who love their traditional practices fully knowing the lack of money. Stop spreading fake news and you are welcome to learn
It doesn't matter whether the pay is 2K or 20K per month. It is about the privileged access to temple duties, officiating hindu ceremonies and rituals etc., however meager the salary be, that comes with blocking a significant majority of the society access to systematic education of the scriptures/rituals and the corresponding services that demand such training. I am not saying everyone would be interested in learning the Vedas or preserving/performing the rituals even if you offer, but even if a few may be interested and are showing an aptitude there is currently no means unless he/she is a bhramin. The converse is also equally unfair- where certain bhramin kids are being forced to take up the study of vedas because of economic or family circumstances when the person might have his heart somewhere else like business or science. Training and profession needs to be determined by one's character and aptitude and not merely by birth. So I am not placing a counter argument that is anti-bhraminical, but simply unable to see any fairness in the arguments placed by Sai Deepak either. India needs a massive social experiment to put traditional notions to litmus test. May be when that happens we will be back to a caste-free class-agnostic society which is probably how it was during the Vedic times. Otherwise how it would have been possible for a dacoit or a fisherman to have produced epics like the Ramayana or Mahabharatha?
@@parvatanaya There are already groups like Arya Samaj etc which are already doing it " studying vedas" . Whether Vaidhika Brahmins are opposing or not. Otherwise groups like Arya Samaj would not be able to do rituals like marriage ( sometimes with women priest) .
Non brahmins also can learn vedas.
I personally know few people who learned vedas and few learned sooktas and upanishads.
In multiple puranas and Manusmriti also it was mentioned.
Non Hindus can also learn. Who is stopping anyone? If someone dons the janeu, prays religiously, follows ceremonies, follows a satvic diet, be compassionate and learns the vedas, shastras and understand the philosophy of Upanishads, they are brahmin. Period. It's the behaviour that makes one a Brahmin, not birth.
Just learning is not enough. You need to have a particular mindset and thought processes to understand in depth. It is not MA or PhD that you can just learn by mote. For learning Vedas and advancing in Hinduism, instincts are very important It is a test of instincts and that is why Brahmins are the best.
Watch from 1:23 for JSD
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Only because of good people like we get rainfall ❤😊
What did he say on intercaste marriage?
If you found tell me also😢
He opposed it in a very subtle manner... Which in turn subscribing to castiesm and untouchability... As a Brahmin myself we need to work on this ... If not we cannot unite
He dodged the question.
He clearly said, you do what you want. Build your own new temples, new society, customs, whatever. But don't insist the other people not subscribing to your ideas (or following their old customs, traditions, beliefs), to change and follow on your footsteps. You have right to choose your path so do everyone else even if you feel they are inferior to your worldview.
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I have done intercaste marriage without awareness too but its not about castes. My ancesral maternal grandma was very high caste than Chettiyar that they donated lands to build temples. Im from higher castes mixed from both maternal and paternal sides. My ancestral deity murugan and husband is different. God is kind. All gods is just about one god 🙏
Higher lower caste kuch nhi h,
Brahman kshatriya shadi kre to bhi varnsankar hi hoga😂
Tu varnsankar h ab lowest
Did you married with a SC Or ST??
ada parpana adimai naye, ungalai pondra soothira adimaigalaal thaan parpanuku balam
@priyanshusolanki6209 its hard anyway to explain but I realize even of we have progressive thoughts society doesnt.
@@Goodnesswithros anything against shastras are not progressive
I am attached to Vivekananda Kendra and like to invite you for a lecture on Swami Vivekananda, who is called Yuva Sanyasi, in the present terms to make Bharat Vishwa Guru.
I also like to know, do you speak in Hindi
Caste system is the roots of Sanathana Dharma. Why so many divorces are happening now.? Because, of not following our traditions and cultures. JSD Sir is absolutely correct.
Well put ..learning Veda is no joke..PPL can't even learn basic slokas flawlessly. And they joke around with Brahmins shikha. Like in kapil sharma show.
No wonder it does not appeal to modern man.
1. Caste is not about God. 2. At a Spiritual level Caste is about the Guna of a person, 100 years ago a proper Brahmin practitioner with his diet and routines would find it easy to have a wife who aligns with his life style. 3. At social level, caste is about teaching professional skills to your kids as they could learn easily while growing up with their family and community. 3. Men being the primary bread earner (physical strength & logistics issue) was trained to take over the father's business and the woman had to relocate from her parents house after marriage. Hence women were allowed to marry outside caste.
Right. This may not seem fair in today’s society. But many ways of present day world may horrify the future. But one important disinction is between Varna and Jaathi, which we confuse because we do not use OUR words for them, but the word “caste” which is alien in origin and meaning and totally unapplicable to our society.m
For those who say varna was not by birth but by karma etc or believe such lies
First question is why is there a need to divide people and restrict flow of knowledge? Will society be harmed or will benefit if every one gained spiritual
and military skills or whatever trading skill they like?!
It's such a waste of human potential! Still RSS and other right wingers call it scientific and useful!!
Here:
Well vedas : rigveda ( rigved mandal 10) gives definition of four varna, yajurveda mentions definition of chandal ( shudra father and brahmin mother ) and nishadha ( vaishya father and brahmin mother) which is proof of birth based varna system and discrimination (Google what it means),
mahabharat has many stories about birth based varna system ( check what " sut" in sutputra karna means. Its not sudra like most believe) its a clan of people whose father was kshatriya and mother was brahmin ....as they broke code of varna system they are punished by having status lower than kshatriya.,
Bhagwat Gita is just part of mahabharat so in that context it does believe in birth based discrimination right there.
When Krishna says women become impure due to war is because this varna system gets corrupted by women marrying outside of varna system!! He does consider it as corruption of religion!
The guna and karma that Krishna uses are past life karma and gunas are assumed according to the which ever varna person was born into ( bhagwatGita 4:13).
bhagwat Gita talks about paap yoni ( even women and vaishya are called paap yoni) etc and says one must do work of varna he was born into no matter how bad he was at it, and never do work of other varna no matter how good he is at it, (bhagwatGita 18:47)....
If you read 4:13 along with 18:47 this will be crystal clear!!
with this context all Gita is actually trying to implement birth based varna system and discrimination out of which caste system originated.
In Valmiki krut ramayana Ram is called protector of varna system which is called varna dharm!!
So from vedas to mahabharat, ramayana, puranas , all smritis including manusmriti are all talking about birth based discriminatory varna system out of which caste system originated!!
so from vedas to ramayana, mahabharat, bhagwat gita all sanction varna system out of which caste system originated.
So caste discrimination is a religious problem that needs to be addressed. No one wants to do that because whole edifice of religion comes down with it.
For those who say varna was not by birth but by karma etc or believe such lies
First question is why is there a need to divide people and restrict flow of knowledge? Will society be harmed or will benefit if every one gained spiritual
and military skills or whatever trading skill they like?!
It's such a waste of human potential! Still RSS and other right wingers call it scientific and useful!!
Here:
Well vedas : rigveda ( rigved mandal 10) gives definition of four varna, yajurveda mentions definition of chandal ( shudra father and brahmin mother ) and nishadha ( vaishya father and brahmin mother) which is proof of birth based varna system and discrimination (Google what it means),
mahabharat has many stories about birth based varna system ( check what " sut" in sutputra karna means. Its not sudra like most believe) its a clan of people whose father was kshatriya and mother was brahmin ....as they broke code of varna system they are punished by having status lower than kshatriya.,
Bhagwat Gita is just part of mahabharat so in that context it does believe in birth based discrimination right there.
When Krishna says women become impure due to war is because this varna system gets corrupted by women marrying outside of varna system!! He does consider it as corruption of religion!
The guna and karma that Krishna uses are past life karma and gunas are assumed according to the which ever varna person was born into ( bhagwatGita 4:13).
bhagwat Gita talks about paap yoni ( even women and vaishya are called paap yoni) etc and says one must do work of varna he was born into no matter how bad he was at it, and never do work of other varna no matter how good he is at it, (bhagwatGita 18:47)....
If you read 4:13 along with 18:47 this will be crystal clear!!
with this context all Gita is actually trying to implement birth based varna system and discrimination out of which caste system originated.
In Valmiki krut ramayana Ram is called protector of varna system which is called varna dharm!!
So from vedas to mahabharat, ramayana, puranas , all smritis including manusmriti are all talking about birth based discriminatory varna system out of which caste system originated!!
so from vedas to ramayana, mahabharat, bhagwat gita all sanction varna system out of which caste system originated.
So caste discrimination is a religious problem that needs to be addressed. No one wants to do that because whole edifice of religion comes down with it.
Brahmin are the ones who appropriated vedas by writing brahmana and aranyakas. No where saptarisih, gotra are mentioend in Vedic samhitas.
These people appropriated vedas for their personal financial gain.
Brahmana and Arnayaka are literally mentioned in the Samhita Part of the Vedas . But since you are illiterate on that , you start seething about Brahmins
Sir, first what do we / you mean by the word “ caste”? As I do not know the Portuguese language, and imagine that I do not know English, but do know all the languages of our country, then, what words would you use instead of “caste”? Varna? Jaathi? Or both interchangeably? If so, how can we use them interchangeably when each of them have different meanings and significance?
Sir, by continuing to use a word imposed on us by an ill-meaning alien people who for a short period occupied our land physically, but occupying our minds for longer and deeper, we are harming ourselves and our ancient civilization irreparably. If we used Varna and Jaathi in their true meaning, wecwould not be so confused.
No one practices professions like we did ages ago then caste concept is itself redundant… inter caste means nothing now unless ur a hardliner following certain rituals you would prefer to have a partner who can blend in your schedule and lifestyle.. it applies to everyone nothing special for hinduism
Majority chunk of the society, are after the micro minority group who are neither specially, economically, politically, and nor constitutionally have any say. What
Why are these are afraid of them. Poor fellows, what can they do.
God bless you. Jesus Christ loves you.
He is calling out english education while piggybacking english only..is not it the plain fact that his specch sounds convincing to people because they all are attracted by English. I myself have gone through vedas and all mainstream scriptures very meticulously, these dont have anything worth efforts per se. But yes a particular segment of our population would feel upbeat and they tend to read and memorise it. This very explosion of internet has given better option to everyone and now they will choose the better.
With all these rituals we'll be able to land manned spacecraft on moon
I think the best way to keep up the vedic life is for brahmins to resort to farming. Dont own massive lands. just small pieces. study the vedas early morning, tend to the farm, cattle in the late morning and afternoon. It takes you back to nature, to god, to really matters, and away from all the maya of modern kaliyuga society.
Yes, that will take them out of competition in all types of jobs and get no reservations too, right?
@ I am Brahmin myself. And yes if they go back to farming, then they don’t need to depend on other sources of income. I am not saying, they should not learn different trades for knowledge sake. But if vaideekis also do farming then they don’t need to depend on others to support them, and will be close to nature and away from the evils of modern society. They won’t need reservations. AI is going to take over all those tech jobs, very few will have jobs as verification and test engineers. And we all have to eat, so farming will be crucial.
Many Brahmin boys don’t get girls to marry, as all of them want rich and established guys. So, people who are in the vaideeki profession are even worse off, due to low income and not fashionable way of life. I am single too. Even after being in IT and in America. Real Brahmin life is boring and requires high discipline and most kids girls and boys don’t want it.
@meenu999 I am saying this as a Brahamin. The genesis for the degeneration of the entire Hindu society started with the Brahamins. It was the brahamins who were the first to leave their Dharma. I am not going into the reasons or the circumstances which paved way for that, but we need to follow our dharma, at least partially, if not completely.
@@adityasundar324 they did not leave their Dharma, they were just better situated due to their training to adapt to the new system during colonial rule. Since their occupation was learning, they could easily adapt to learning English and get into clerical jobs, which were the best jobs at the time for Indians, pathetic as it may be. The Varnas involved in vocational training and arts had basically nowhere to go and no means of earning a livelihood once their industry was destroyed by the British. So in a beggars world, the one with a single rupee is going to be looked on with contempt by those who have none or those who have no means of earning that rupee. Add to it the colonial narrative that intentionally instigated those who did not have that single rupee by pointing the finger at those who did, implicating them as the cause of all problems. What people do not understand is that those who caused the suffering are getting away with it Scot-free. While we point fingers at each other.
@@RG-un2vl It was not mere clerical jobs which was adopted. There were Administrative and Judicial jobs (which is Kshatriya Dharma) which was also adopted. The representation of Brahamins in the Bureaucracy of the British in Madras Presidency and immediately after independence of Bharat was disproportionate to the population of Brahamins in the Presidency.
Generations of Brahamins have left chanting vedic mantras (I am not insisting that they should earn their livelihood through vaideekam).
How many Brahamins do regular sandhyavandhanam?
How many Brahamins have abandoned the poojas which was passed down for generations?
I am talking about this. An analogy is given by the erstwhile pontiff of Kanchi Mutt wherein he states that the Dharmic acts are like peddling a bicycle. It is the good dharmic acts of our ancestors which propels us ahead. but we need to continue to pedal and not merely coast because after a point of time, the bicycle will slow down and finally stop.
Brahamins should course-correct and get back to our roots and do our dharma. Brahamins are supposed to guide the entire community, which can be done only if brahamins practice it themselves.
Now, I am not pin-pointing any particular person and making this statement. I am talking about the community as a whole across the length and breath of Bharath. We need to get back to our roots.
Dharmo Rakshathi rakshitaha. Dharma Protects those who protects themselves.
This is the very reason Bharat dismantled. Vedas must be open to all, irrespective of their hereditary caste!
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Brahminism and this new instant sanatana is a curse on our non brahmin majority soceity
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Because of brahmins you can call yourself vedic, arya, hindu, dharmic.
@@parthdeshmukh5418 ok you can laugh at buddha , basavanna , Kabir , thiruvalluvar, dayananad saraswati, allama Prabhu ....etc.. they also told the same
@@parthdeshmukh5418 I am not Vedic , I am not arya , my ancestors did not migrate to this country , out ancestors were inhabitants of this Deccan plateau, ..my dharma does not discriminate on the basis of caste , my dharma believes in inclusiveness of society
@@parthdeshmukh5418 I am not hindu I belong to vaishnava sect
First of all , Sai, saibaba was vedic?
Next , although I appreciate the pursuit of V1 to hold on to Vedic dharma, but be honest , is it all about this pursuit? With his meagre income that exponentially increase with the devotion of V1,V2,V3,V4,....and falls with their decrease!
Dear Sai, tell me what would happen what would happen to V1, if V2 hadn't then built the magnificent Tirupati Temple. And what if V3,V4... stopped going ro the temple and found a way to behold my beloved Perumal in their own hearts taught by the Vedas.
It would be futile even to attempt to argue with a lawyer. But I ask you to contemplate on what you profess at times!
Om Sat Sai
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People caste system abolished in 1948. Stop this nonsense.
Yep I'm disappointed with the "keep your reformist nonsense to yourself" which contradicts the Hindu saints of the past who were always tried to reform the society when there was injustice. Many Hindu saints fought very strongly against casteism yet some still want to hold onto it.
'@@Darius1328 we don't have a concept of "Sainthood". We have people like "Rishi", "Sadhu", "Yogi", " and "Sant".
Lack of knowledge 😢@@floe61
If caste system was abolished in 1948 why there is a need for reservation, caste based census, etc. Who is asking community certificate. Who sounds non sensical here?
@@Darius1328What he meant to say was don't interfere in temples practicing Ahama sastra by people having allegiance to non Ahama temples. Even assuming that what he said was wrong, why non believers and non Hindus want to control Hindu temples and their funds?
Inter religious marriage karo ....rashtra bachao
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Caste is a foreign term and nothing to do with varna
Look I don't care about such caste and religion and stuff. If I love a girl and she loves me back boom I am in!
This is movie style thinking! Practical life is very different. Once the initial chemistry is over in a marriage, the brought up(which is different in different castes, regions etc.) will dictate the stability of the marriage. This is the reason our ancestors did not encourage intercaste marriages.
What is love according to you? then it has something say
I will marry any religion girl except Muslims and Christian girls because islam and Christianity always tried to destroy Hinduism
@@KrishnaAddepalli And yet multiple affairs were rampant between different social strata, castes. Love occurs with people who are equally aligned in some variable, marriage on the other hand always, Irrespective of cultural similarities or dissimilarities faces a problem of diminishing marginal utility without any exceptions as a greater deal of familiarity sets in. Remove the institution of marriage, remove the brahminism from your thinking
@@KrishnaAddepalli but there are divorces even in same caste marriage. So in today's world marriage itself is useless scam of patriarchy
She should write down her question first instead of wasting so much time of the panel and the audience!!😂😂
See it's okay...
Don't be a d*ck
Boring... what is use of learning these concentrate on science and equality live and let live is simple ... true hindu stop talking and identifying caste ... where are u on people denied entry to temple ... ur so boring
Why are you so concerned about what a Hindu is doing? I don't agree with casteism though, nor do I agree with dravidian hypernationalism promoted by people like Periyar. I also don't agree with the dissociation of the Hindu identity by dividing it up into sects like it's Islam. I ALSO don't agree with "wHaT is UsE oF lEarnIng tHeSe conCenTraTe oN sCienCe aND eQuaLItY anD leT LiVe iS SimPle...". It undermines the importance of reestablishing a spiritual environment in our country.
@floe61 u should concentrate on points i have mentioned if needed not on why my interest in hindus....
@@Dailytreatsz I've addressed all your points. Your statement just lacks substance, it's hollow and amounts to nothing. It's not my fault you don't understand my response. But you still haven't acknowledge the truth in my statement, which is: you're not Hindu, why do you care?
@floe61 u can't address as ur words have no value because nothing changed ...still castesuim is the cancer and Pariyar save people from brahmin atrocities even ...he hates brahiminisum propagation not brahmins
@floe61 u don't decide who I'm ...what have u addressed ? Solving is addressing not writing even this u don't understand and tell others hollow blah blah blah ... boring again
Vedas is outdated knowledge
No. But at least the greatest heritage of not just India but world.
Vedas does not appeal to modern man..
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Sxty prcnt s t d.thr s no need f tht institution
U guys don't follow if u cross sea then ull loose ur caste. Ull do whichever benifits u. U sk any dkk if he is rich. They why these stupid dramas. No body is interested in u guy. Just people should be away from these shitty peoples politics.
Vedas = Science. Reading science in school = Learning Vedas!
I never seen periodic table in vedas
She wants to uphold sanatana but why she is not keeping a bindi? Many are hesitant to wear a bindi why ?
How do u know she is married or not.
Non married also puts bindi😅@@gayatricasey6618
All the ICMjeets seething in the comments , ICM is not happening , cry more
Lmao here comes another Dehati Trad Baman from his Smartha Govardhan Math spreading his Smritivadi Shit. No one follows your Birth Based Copeashrama (Varnashrama), And soon people will realise how J Sai Deepak is the B Team of Smritivadi Smarthas. All civilized rich elites who have standards marry on the basis of quality, In Ancient India too, Royalty didn't gave a damn about Dehat Jatis. Royals like Harshavardhan had matrimonial relations in so called Different Varnas, And in a time when in the Era of advancement of Biological and Genetic studies, Some Dehat Inbreds want to stop ICM, But many Kings in the Medieval Period were shamelessly selling their daughters to Mughals🤣 And Trad Bamans wrote Bhavishya Purana mentioning Akbar as a Reincarnation of a Brahmin 🤡Irony Pro max. Genetically all castes have mixed & common Genetic Components. Non Smriti based Indic Religions Like Trika Shaivism, Mahapurushiya Vaishnavism, Nath Shaivism rejects Dehat Jati and Janmana Varna. Our team has already exposed all the Trad shit spread by Smarthas & Smritivadis in the name of Dharma in our video doc available on our channel.
Another Dehati Trad Baman from his Smartha Govardhan Math spreading his Smritivada. No one follows your Birth Based Copeashrama (Varnashrama), And soon people will realise how J Sai Deepak is the B Team of Smritivadi Smarthas. All civilized rich elites who have standards marry on the basis of quality, In Ancient India too, Royalty didn't gave a damn about Dehat Jatis. Royals like Harshavardhan had matrimonial relations in so called Different Varnas, And in a time when in the Era of advancement of Biological and Genetic studies, Some Dehati want to stop ICM, But many Kings in the Medieval Period were shamelessly selling their daughters to Mughals💀 And Trad Bamans wrote Bhavishya Purana mentioning Akbar as a Reincarnation of a Brahmin, Very Ironical. Genetically all castes have mixed & common Genetic Components. Non Smriti based Indic Religions Like Trika Shaivism, Mahapurushiya Vaishnavism, Nath Shaivism rejects Dehat Jati and Janmana Varna. Our team has already exposed all the stuff spread by Trad Smarthas & Smritivadis in the name of Dharma in our video doc available on our channel.
As per Bhagwat gita in Sanatan dharma their is only two castes...good and bad...
Someone didn't read Bhagwat Gita ig