Honestly I was wondering at the time why this never happened. In hindsight, it just wasn't the superfight area. Champ vs champ was not as common back then. Fighters actually defended their belt, didn't just call out the next weight class as soon as they won the first belt.
@@GOREDO5 Nah, Georges Saint Pierre would have won. Rush probably would have won by unanimous decision instead of a finish, but he still likely would have won.
I wanted Brock vs Fedor back in the day so bad. Older fans remember the talk about it. Dana wanted to do it in a big stadium in Texas, it would have been huge.
I didnt know Cro Cop at the time but my older brother kept hyping him up. When he got knocked out i just looked at him like really this guy was such a badass? Then i looked into him and discovered PRIDE
@Hope-Truth-Light what's funny is I did the same exact thing. My friends had no clue who Cro Cop was and I spent half the night telling them he was going to be the heavyweight champ. Then he gets brutally KOd. But that's what I love about MMA. Anything can happen.
@@dirkdiggler4567 I did the same thing with my then landlord. She watched the very short fight with me. I still remember her sympathetically telling me I looked like I was going to cry -- I was 28 years old at the time. 😆
UFC not signing Fedor was ultimately good for them. If he would've signed back then, he absolutely would've beaten the brakes off Lesnar who was HUGE in turning them mainstream and popular. Every kid that watched WWE back then learned about MMA and UFC because of him and became fans. That's how I found this sport at like 9 years old.
“”…Young Dana mother f*****d his way out of the deal” Possibly one of the best throw away one liners you’ve ever put out there. I laughed out loud. Very funny.👍
My theory on Silva vs GSP. Both were in GOAT status. UFC could have been worried about losing draw appeal for whoever loses the fight. So they were waiting for them to be closer to the end of their careers to throw it together. That in itself has a risk of losing one to injury, retirement, or losing to another fighter anyways, so not really sound logic. Only thing I can think of outside of the fighters not getting enough for it though
also tyron woodly vs colby covington while tyron was champion. Having colby as champion would've been phenomenal, but dana cut his nose to spite his face.
I still remember when Dana said on a post ufc press conference that "Anderson doesn't deserve GSP. " I think it was the after the Maia fight and Dana was super mad at Anderson because of how he fought. It really makes you wonder.
Cro Cop at least asked for 1 warm up fight. I don't recall if he had to fight Eddie and asked for another fight before the belt or asked for Eddie first and they made him fight Gonzaga. I forget what interview it was but Cro Cop Said it himself he wanted a warm up fight. I don't recall if he said he was offered a title shot but he specifically asked for a warm up fight.
Ngannou is getting laughed at. But boxing is what he wanted & got his ass handed to him. That KO will probably delay his MMA debut for the PFL till next yr.
They fumbled the bag by betraying the fans and the sport of MMA by selling their souls to go entirely corporate just in an attempt to be accepted by traditional sports that will never accept them as their equals. They should have remained gritty, authentic, and real. No Reebok deal destroying fighters' sponsorships and hundreds of other short-sighted greedy money plays. This could have been the cool 'outsider' mainstream sport.
Zuffa boxing would have never meant anything because the UFC would have tried to pay top boxers UFC fighter money. They would have signed no one significant.
5:45 Holm vs Rousey take is just objectively questionable at best. It made Nunes a star. They literally got their cake and ate it too. Amanda not only took out the champion, she took out Rhonda too. In your scenario, Holly would just beat Rhonda again and then Amanda would just beat Holly - giving Rhonda ZERO reason to Amanda… which is likely why they didn’t do it. She made more money ultimately than Ronda could at that point as the sport grew and a flag bearer was needed. You want your flag bearer be someone who can’t beat the divisions elite lol? She passed the torch and Amanda made them even more money solidifying her reign at the top.
The UFC would NEVER have successfully gotten into ZUFFA boxing. The UFC is stingy AF with fighter pay. They never would have paid their boxers what they could've been making in regular boxing promotions. That's why UFC stars leave to go do boxing... because they pay dismally low compared to boxing.
Most of these isn’t cause of the ufc it’s cause of the certain fighters tito didn’t want chuck rousey never wanted the holy rematch ngannou being scared of jones isn’t ufc fault
10:38 that’s crazy, though that a simple catchweight in between both of their weight classes and extra steroid testing, made it so difficult that they couldn’t make it happen
No Nate vs mcgregor 3 is criminal. Even when we knew neither were champions we still wanted mcgregor vs Diaz… how… Not to mention just Nick Diaz prime / ufc career. All that because of weed.
That’s an exaggeration or an outright lie. The nfl generated a record 18 billion in revenue in 2022. UFC absolutely does not pull in 3 times those numbers
Zuffa boxing? The self appointed face of boxing, Flyod, would’ve buried it in some way, shape, or form. I bet Oscar would’ve joined forces with him just because of Dana. 😅😂
Most recent example? Failing to match up Miesha v Valentina at 135 for UFC 300. Two hall of fame proven draws who would sell the fight, rejuvenate the division, with myriad, multiple storylines (Valentina making a run for champ-champ; Tate's rebirth; setting up Valentina rematch with Peña) Others? Allowing Bisping to squat on the belt for over a year while middleweight was redhot
Now with Aldo coming back, a rematch between him and Connor at lightweight, cause Connor will not come down to featherweight, would be cool. A shame it's not gonna happen tho
7:00 we were never getting Khabib v Conor 2 and there was no reason for it to happen other than a cash grab. You think they didnt throw tons of money at Khabib?
1:31 "...It would have saved them a few hundred thousand dollars". It wouldnt have even saved them a couple hundred, never mind a few. 180k is less than 200k which is a couple hundred
this might be a small one but it could have some ripple effects. Zhang Weili right now is incredibly popular in China and she is fighting Yan Xiaonan who, when she fought last, KO'd Jessica Andrade who lost the title in China 4.5 years ago to Weili. I'm really glad the fight is happening but I can't for the life of me figure out why its happening in Las Vegas. China have huge stadiums and have a population of 1.4 BILLION people. IMO the UFC have fumbled a little by not focusing more on the Chinese market. Weili and Xiaonan both turn 35 this year, I wouldn't be surprised if they both have less than 5 fights left in them, especially at their very high level.
The fact that from 2011-2013 Silva, had to of the greatest fighters all the time (let’s not discredit Jones, just cause he’s a POS) within 1 weight division of him and nobody capitalize on either dream match is still the craziest thing I’ve ever heard. And to top it off… *THEY WERE ALL IN THEIR PRIME!!!!!*
Conor only has 2 fights left on his contract, the ufc dont want to let Conor go, Conor is what made the ufc sell for 4.2 billion. So they are delaying the comeback inorder to try to get conor to sign a new contract
Fights we wanted but never got: 1. GSP vs Silva 2. Fedor vs Randy/Brock 3. Khabib vs Tony 4. Francis vs Jones 5. Cyborg vs Rousey 6. Nick Diaz vs Jason Miller 7. Nate Diaz vs Khabib
Ngannou has nothing but my respect. He took a risk, bet on himself and has subsequently amassed generational wealth. Other fighters have surely taken notice, it won’t be long before somebody else jumps ship.
They wanted cro cop to actually earn the title shot. GSP and Spider still had contenders to fight in their own weight classes there was no need to force them to fight each other
*GSP fumbled lol there was no way he was risking his domination after he finally got over the Matt losses. I don’t blame him but there’s a reason he didn’t go up until Bisping was there
Idk I think middleweight was always a weak division, bisping being the champ is a testament to the lack of good competition. It could have been Silva, rockhold, etc and I think gsp takes it
GSP wanted nothing to do with Anderson Silva. That fight never was going to happen because he didn't want to be humiliated. GSP put pride ahead of money. No price was worth losing that for him.
Ronda didn't have to go for the title. She had just came back from a major loss and her stock was already falling even before the 40 seconds of being humbled by Nunes. The fight could've just been to see who would go after the title. Not every big money match has to be for a championship. Plus Ronda wasn't in a good place after coming back and people could see that even before she fought Nunes. She was too far gone to make a rematch with Holms work.
UFC 209 didn’t have a single Diaz brother on the card….. biggest fumble so far for sure
I agree
Oh my fuck you just blew my mind !
Hell yeah I remember being baked asf wondering why they didn’t do that especially in Stockton or somewhere close it would’ve been a sellout
UFC 305 should be in Miami too but it probably won’t
No one cared tho
Anderson vs. GSP, both at their peak... the fans missed out the most
Gsp was scared
@@lukethomasprteam neither wanted to fight each other.
Honestly I was wondering at the time why this never happened. In hindsight, it just wasn't the superfight area. Champ vs champ was not as common back then. Fighters actually defended their belt, didn't just call out the next weight class as soon as they won the first belt.
Nah GSP wins that fight for sure
Nope Silva clears and gsp knew that lol
Yup. The GSP/Spider thing will never not blow my mind or hurt my heart.
Silva wins
Amen. We'll heal together
@@GOREDO5 Nah, Georges Saint Pierre would have won. Rush probably would have won by unanimous decision instead of a finish, but he still likely would have won.
I wanted Brock vs Fedor back in the day so bad. Older fans remember the talk about it. Dana wanted to do it in a big stadium in Texas, it would have been huge.
Fedor beats Brock.
@@richardsgmailI agree
“It has to be bigger than the GDP of Bhutan”
Was that only hilarious to me?
Cro Cop getting head kicked by Gonzaga. That was so insane at the time.
And by a *Left* high kick!
I didnt know Cro Cop at the time but my older brother kept hyping him up. When he got knocked out i just looked at him like really this guy was such a badass? Then i looked into him and discovered PRIDE
@Hope-Truth-Light what's funny is I did the same exact thing. My friends had no clue who Cro Cop was and I spent half the night telling them he was going to be the heavyweight champ. Then he gets brutally KOd. But that's what I love about MMA. Anything can happen.
@@dirkdiggler4567 I did the same thing with my then landlord. She watched the very short fight with me. I still remember her sympathetically telling me I looked like I was going to cry -- I was 28 years old at the time. 😆
UFC not signing Fedor was ultimately good for them. If he would've signed back then, he absolutely would've beaten the brakes off Lesnar who was HUGE in turning them mainstream and popular. Every kid that watched WWE back then learned about MMA and UFC because of him and became fans. That's how I found this sport at like 9 years old.
Great video, GSP v AS definitely was the biggest fumble
Yeah, it's like Sting versus The Undertaker at Wrestlemania never happening. It's completely unacceptable.
He said we should’ve wrapped Holly in bubble wrap😂😂
“”…Young Dana mother f*****d his way out of the deal”
Possibly one of the best throw away one liners you’ve ever put out there. I laughed out loud. Very funny.👍
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Came looking for this comment. Its like the good ol days. Bring back uncensored commentary ❤
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Can you explain the reference?
Jon is to blame for the Francis stuff. He took so long and he was magically ready as soon as Francis was gone
That clip of The Fountain… would love to know the overlap of UFC fans and people who have seen or even heard of that movie 😂😂😂
I've seen The Fountain a few times, so you're not alone.
You talk as if the fountain was a niche author film.
@@salvadorpalma8173 I mean, it was a tremendous flop when it came out in theaters in 2006, and it’s not like you hear a ton about it since then 🤷♂️
One of Darren Aronofsky best films. Idk how people HAVENT seen it.
Watched that film every day for the whole of 2013. Almost went completey insane
There's no way on this planet Rhonda was ever going to fight Cyborg. People forget she started at 145.
Not to mention she was scared shitless
4:03
Oh shit that sounded personal
30 sec later: Oh shit he took it personal🤣💀
I remember when I thought Brock Lesner was absolutely UNBEATABLE! Its so crazy how the sport has changed.
I miss those times! BJ Penn, GSP, Aldo, Cain Velasquez, Anderson Silva… UFC was so fun to watch!
Brock was great, if he got into the sport 10 years earlier he'd have been unstoppable.
@@joshb1137I don’t know man he couldn’t take a hit really, he crumbled when he got hit hard by anything
Why? He lost his first ufc fight..
@@porkchopexpress6969right? Wtf? Haha
"If you see me in the grocery store come say hi"
Nobody knows what you look like 😂😂😂😂😂
My theory on Silva vs GSP. Both were in GOAT status. UFC could have been worried about losing draw appeal for whoever loses the fight. So they were waiting for them to be closer to the end of their careers to throw it together. That in itself has a risk of losing one to injury, retirement, or losing to another fighter anyways, so not really sound logic. Only thing I can think of outside of the fighters not getting enough for it though
I always heard it was gsp who didn’t want it.. I think Silva would have met him at 175
Perhaps not making the Silva vs GSP fight happen was a business decison to keep both of their most dominant champs' legacy intact?
I like how this entire vid just felt like Tommy needing to get something off his chest. Lmao, I felt the passion and anger in that vid.
also tyron woodly vs colby covington while tyron was champion. Having colby as champion would've been phenomenal, but dana cut his nose to spite his face.
They didn't do zuffa boxin', but they did slap, think about that.
Rousey vs Holm 2 needs to be higher, that fight would’ve brought in so much money
I still remember when Dana said on a post ufc press conference that "Anderson doesn't deserve GSP. " I think it was the after the Maia fight and Dana was super mad at Anderson because of how he fought. It really makes you wonder.
Love the content boys
Cro Cop at least asked for 1 warm up fight. I don't recall if he had to fight Eddie and asked for another fight before the belt or asked for Eddie first and they made him fight Gonzaga. I forget what interview it was but Cro Cop Said it himself he wanted a warm up fight. I don't recall if he said he was offered a title shot but he specifically asked for a warm up fight.
The UFC is worth billions a year yet pays it's fighters on average $10 grand a fight???? The UFC isn't a pro sport...
Well now Chandler is having a rematch with Oliveira and not fighting Conor 😂
Ngannou vs Jones would have been a historical fight. Should have just let Francis box like he wanted
Love the passion in this video😊
Fedor vs Brock wasn't UFC fumbling the bag because it was M1 Global's fault. Asking for a co-promotion was ludicrous.
James Toney vs Kimbo in 2010 in the ufc. Idk the politics and business that would have been involved but still would have been entertaining
Fedor would of knocked Brock out in 1 round. Smartest thing the UFC did is not signing Fedor. Would of embarrassed the H.W division at the time.
1. Letting Francis go make 30 million dollars for 2 boxing fights
Dana was afraid of his heavyweight champion getting ko'd in front of the world. Was a valid worry.
Lol no one watched those fights. Saudi is handing out money for nothing. Sorry ufc and Dana doesn’t want to give away free money
look at the ppv money, boxing lost alot of money so in that ufc did not fumble the bag
It’s horrible business for Saudi. Like less than 100k ppv total for both fights
Ngannou is getting laughed at. But boxing is what he wanted & got his ass handed to him. That KO will probably delay his MMA debut for the PFL till next yr.
They fumbled the bag by betraying the fans and the sport of MMA by selling their souls to go entirely corporate just in an attempt to be accepted by traditional sports that will never accept them as their equals. They should have remained gritty, authentic, and real. No Reebok deal destroying fighters' sponsorships and hundreds of other short-sighted greedy money plays. This could have been the cool 'outsider' mainstream sport.
Zuffa boxing would have never meant anything because the UFC would have tried to pay top boxers UFC fighter money. They would have signed no one significant.
There is a multiverse where Quentin Tarantino is the UFC president and Dana White is the director of Pulp Fiction
Also a multiverse where your comment was funny.
Time to eat some shoes I guess ....
Love you guys
Excellent video
Conor just told espn summer so u might have to eat ur shoe
So..... do you want the shoe with ketchup or mustard?
5:45 Holm vs Rousey take is just objectively questionable at best. It made Nunes a star. They literally got their cake and ate it too. Amanda not only took out the champion, she took out Rhonda too. In your scenario, Holly would just beat Rhonda again and then Amanda would just beat Holly - giving Rhonda ZERO reason to Amanda… which is likely why they didn’t do it. She made more money ultimately than Ronda could at that point as the sport grew and a flag bearer was needed. You want your flag bearer be someone who can’t beat the divisions elite lol? She passed the torch and Amanda made them even more money solidifying her reign at the top.
Aldo is back before Conor 🤣🤣
54 seconds ago is wild
dana calling fedor overrated is dana being bitter about not getting his way and signing fedor to one of his shitty contracts
Curran unblurring his face was awesome and I wish nothing but the best for him
Well Tommy, looks like someone's literally walkin' away with two shoes on his feet...lol
The UFC would NEVER have successfully gotten into ZUFFA boxing. The UFC is stingy AF with fighter pay. They never would have paid their boxers what they could've been making in regular boxing promotions. That's why UFC stars leave to go do boxing... because they pay dismally low compared to boxing.
I’m a simple man, I see MMA on point post and I’m clicking
Jones vs Silva would have been awesome too
2:57 huh 😂 Hearn,Arum,Hayman,Goldenboy.
What you've shown is how Dana will favor his own whims or ego over what is always the best for the UFC.
Most of these isn’t cause of the ufc it’s cause of the certain fighters tito didn’t want chuck rousey never wanted the holy rematch ngannou being scared of jones isn’t ufc fault
Cain velasquez vs Coke jones 2013
Mcgregor vs khabib 2
Cursed fight
Tony vs khabib
I feel like Silva vs Jones shouldve been at least an honorable mention or something
If Holly waited she risks becoming Michael Chandler. Look how desperate he is now coming up on 40
10:38 that’s crazy, though that a simple catchweight in between both of their weight classes and extra steroid testing, made it so difficult that they couldn’t make it happen
Ufc Africa with Francis, Izzy, and Usman defending their titles could have been wild
Silva vs Jones could've breaked records
Ufc 151 was canceled all together due to the top heaviness of the card…
Let’s just insert ufc 301
Connor has been to busy hitting the slopes ⛷️
And the juice so he could be huge for the Road House remake he did.
No Nate vs mcgregor 3 is criminal. Even when we knew neither were champions we still wanted mcgregor vs Diaz… how…
Not to mention just Nick Diaz prime / ufc career.
All that because of weed.
Finally Tommy is back. The other guy yesterday I think Jason was so boring and miserable. Tommy is the best on this channel
2021 gdp of bhutan was 2.54 billion usd.
Living in a timeline that fumbled Silva vs GSP & Lesnar vs Fedor still makes me sad
Another great video
4:06 weren't that era trinity of Fedor, Mirko, and Nogueira?
The Axe Murderer was bigger.
Is that WWE's Mandy Rose standing next to Anderson Silva at the GSP stare down? It's at 10:30 of the video.
$52 Billion a year…..wtf?!?!
That’s an exaggeration or an outright lie. The nfl generated a record 18 billion in revenue in 2022. UFC absolutely does not pull in 3 times those numbers
@@Joes35 🤜🏼🤛🏼🤙🏼
I’m still both saddened and angry over not getting couture vs cro cop
I always wanted a Holmes vs cyborg or cyborg vs Andrade fight
Zuffa boxing? The self appointed face of boxing, Flyod, would’ve buried it in some way, shape, or form. I bet Oscar would’ve joined forces with him just because of Dana. 😅😂
I would still watch St. Pierre and Silva...even though they're both like - 70 or whatever.
Most recent example? Failing to match up Miesha v Valentina at 135 for UFC 300. Two hall of fame proven draws who would sell the fight, rejuvenate the division, with myriad, multiple storylines (Valentina making a run for champ-champ; Tate's rebirth; setting up Valentina rematch with Peña)
Others? Allowing Bisping to squat on the belt for over a year while middleweight was redhot
dana vs tito
would have been millions
Anderson was already dangerous at 205 while gsp was flirting with the idea of 155. the size gap is way huger than you’re making it out to be.
Now with Aldo coming back, a rematch between him and Connor at lightweight, cause Connor will not come down to featherweight, would be cool. A shame it's not gonna happen tho
Silva and GSP both wanted that fight. Pre Connor UFC was a different company...
Cornier vs Lesnar anyone? Buellar?
7:00 we were never getting Khabib v Conor 2 and there was no reason for it to happen other than a cash grab. You think they didnt throw tons of money at Khabib?
1:31 "...It would have saved them a few hundred thousand dollars". It wouldnt have even saved them a couple hundred, never mind a few. 180k is less than 200k which is a couple hundred
Million dollar man taught you well lol
10:29 is that Mandy rose standing next to anderson silva
this might be a small one but it could have some ripple effects. Zhang Weili right now is incredibly popular in China and she is fighting Yan Xiaonan who, when she fought last, KO'd Jessica Andrade who lost the title in China 4.5 years ago to Weili. I'm really glad the fight is happening but I can't for the life of me figure out why its happening in Las Vegas. China have huge stadiums and have a population of 1.4 BILLION people. IMO the UFC have fumbled a little by not focusing more on the Chinese market. Weili and Xiaonan both turn 35 this year, I wouldn't be surprised if they both have less than 5 fights left in them, especially at their very high level.
How about Khabib vs GSP?
The fact that from 2011-2013 Silva, had to of the greatest fighters all the time (let’s not discredit Jones, just cause he’s a POS) within 1 weight division of him and nobody capitalize on either dream match is still the craziest thing I’ve ever heard. And to top it off… *THEY WERE ALL IN THEIR PRIME!!!!!*
Fedor vs lesnar would have been huge at ufc 200
Conor only has 2 fights left on his contract, the ufc dont want to let Conor go, Conor is what made the ufc sell for 4.2 billion. So they are delaying the comeback inorder to try to get conor to sign a new contract
Fights we wanted but never got:
1. GSP vs Silva
2. Fedor vs Randy/Brock
3. Khabib vs Tony
4. Francis vs Jones
5. Cyborg vs Rousey
6. Nick Diaz vs Jason Miller
7. Nate Diaz vs Khabib
We wanted Nate vs Khabib? When would that have made sense?
GSP vs Khabib at catchweight*** Izzy vs Pereira at 205 trilogy*** instead of Diaz and miller
Tbcf they tried to make Khabib vs Tony 5 times. That fight was just cursed unfortunately
Lmao WHO TF wanted Nate Vs Khabib???
Dana gonna watch this and have an aneurysm
Ngannou has nothing but my respect. He took a risk, bet on himself and has subsequently amassed generational wealth.
Other fighters have surely taken notice, it won’t be long before somebody else jumps ship.
I heard that Jerrell Miller is fighting Mijain Lopez at open weight for the open weight title.
They wanted cro cop to actually earn the title shot. GSP and Spider still had contenders to fight in their own weight classes there was no need to force them to fight each other
200k minus 20k = a few hundred thousand dollars? OK, guys. I know mma math doesn't add up, but real math still does 😂
Yeah at the time the 20K may have been like 200 being they were on the edge of folding under
*GSP fumbled lol there was no way he was risking his domination after he finally got over the Matt losses. I don’t blame him but there’s a reason he didn’t go up until Bisping was there
Idk I think middleweight was always a weak division, bisping being the champ is a testament to the lack of good competition. It could have been Silva, rockhold, etc and I think gsp takes it
@@Devilm4n-cw8tvno way gsp beat rockhold or silva. gsp would not have outwrestled the bigger rockhold who is a great wrestler himself
Edible was so good
Yea.... the 3 biggest missed fights was
SPIDER vs G.S.P. &
SPIDER VS JON JONES
JON JONES VS FRANCIS
Jon/Francis 1-3, Jon/Stipe 1-3, and Francis/Stipe 3 are my top 7.
Maybe add Jon/DC at heavyweight 1-3 to make it a round 10.
GSP wanted nothing to do with Anderson Silva. That fight never was going to happen because he didn't want to be humiliated. GSP put pride ahead of money. No price was worth losing that for him.
Anderson Silva vs Jon Jones
Ronda didn't have to go for the title. She had just came back from a major loss and her stock was already falling even before the 40 seconds of being humbled by Nunes. The fight could've just been to see who would go after the title. Not every big money match has to be for a championship. Plus Ronda wasn't in a good place after coming back and people could see that even before she fought Nunes. She was too far gone to make a rematch with Holms work.