Interesting fact, that both Amy and Oz(Oze) are in The Lesser Key of Solomon as Archon names (Buer, Morax, Barbatos..... also Paimon.) and come one after another.
I guess it could be, since he has a rare copy of Vol 6 of Shattered Halberd that Xingqiu was looking for, and especially since he was 'Big Nine' to 'Little Nine', his long deceased friend who he thinks is still alive. And iirc the names are even more similar in CN/JP. But my personal understanding is like this: in the commission "This Novel is Amazing!", it's implied that he isn't (at least initially) famous or even really known by the Yae Publishing House, and wants to get famous/published worldwide so his friend will read it (not realizing she is long deceased). I've always assumed Mr. Nine was already famous, given his loyal fanbase, and the interviews at the end of his collections. Also, Chang is introduced as a rare book collector (and that's why he would have Vol 6), and he calls Shattered Halberd an 'epoch-defining masterpiece' that basically created the martial arts genre. I've always found that last part weird, if Chang were Mr. Nine talking about his own book that way 😅 But the naming similarity is still super weird, so who knows!
Looking at the skyline for Fischl's GAA island, it makes me think it's more like a cracked egg and we all know who made the sky out of its hatched egg shell. Yeah, everything goes back to Phanes.
The idea that real Fishl is Tsaritsa actually neat if we assume that God-father is Phanes. In Orphism Phanes and Eros were considered the same god. Eros in greek mythology is a god of love, while Tsaritsa is theorized to be a goddess of love.
I might be streching it but i kinda think that Kapatcir (Tsurumi's Great Thunderbird) might be one of Irmin/Odin's raven familiars. Also in the Ei's nightmare trailer, it show's Kapatcir being struck by Raiden, aaaand somehow has a very similar appearance to Oz. Kapatcir also said along the lines of "I've forgotten the name that 'she' gave me", genshin's odin could be woman or simply a translation error (wouldn't be the first)
if it is a translation error, it would have been fixed by now. i'm more into the theory that kapatcir is the real Oz. that there was a real princess fischl in the past.
I played hi3 what coud be is that Mr.9 or the rl fishel went to GI and kapacher was the familiar and cuz of thr bubble thing oz is genshins kapachir or he is a decandant of kapachir
When we found out about The Sinner, and that concept became such a focus for speculation, I couldn't help but think of Amy's mentions of "sins" in her ascension passive (undone be thy sinful hex!), and constellation names (devourer of sins). It really makes this theory of Princess Fischl being from Khaenri'ah click into place for me. Another character with red(ish) eyes and sin in her constellations is Rosaria (the wages of sin). Might be worth keeping an eye (pun intended) on her.
I have a theory that Rosaria is from Snezhnaya since her character story mentions a very cold village. Her weapon of choice is said to be tied to traitors in Mondstadt's history, too. My other theory is that she might've seen the Abyss since her eyes are very funky, and she's very connected to concepts like "shadows" or "heresy." Also, her former gang may have been connected to the Fatui because her design is way too similar to the Mirror Maidens (even same VAs in English, iirc) to be just a coincidence Bonus points: on their archive descriptions, Mirror Maidens are stated to have their eyes covered for having seen things that changed them and may or may not have made them obsessed with something. Another character whose eyes are odd is none other than Childe, who's seen the Abyss, too. Rosaria's talents and constellations talk about trials, judgment, and divine punishment, all of which are tied to Hydro Archon instead of Cryo, and Mirror Maidens are Hydro users. Hoyoverse knows better than to make an amateur mistake, like barely putting any effort into her design. They love leaving breadcrumbs for lore diggers instead. Not to mention, Rosaria was able to stalk / keep up with an apprentice/successor of a seat in the Hexenzirkel, and (correctly) assumes Albedo is dangerous and sus... Rosaria is definitely worth keeping an eye on. She's hiding some spicy tea behind all the alcohol she gobbles, for sure.
I also forgot to point out how her outfits are full of Fatui imagery (check the spiky shape of Childe's vision then compare it to the metal accents on Rosaria's clothes), and her color scheme is way closer to Childe's than Barbara's
Hats off to you for finding out about the connection to and delving deeper into Nietzsche's and Wagner's works. I see all these Genshin lore specialists on TH-cam speculate and have the wildest theories, but they for some reason hardly ever or never land on those two, even though it is by now obvious that Hoyoverse didn't just base much of Genshin's lore on their work, but they did already do so with Honkai Impact 3rd. Philosophers like Nietzsche, also Goethe by the way, and Wagner's operas are the first thing Genshin lore specialists want to comb through when delving into lore concerning both Khaenri'ah and Mondstadt.
@@roozeveltfox Since Narfi is the father of Nott who is "the personified night", it makes sense that Fischl is saying "Princess of Judgement, of the Castle in the Sky, the Personified Night" It also ties into the "Night Mother" from 6 Pygmies :D wouldn't that be Narfi? So Fischl's mother who already went through the Samsara once? "The Night Mother was the source of all sins, and the Land of Night was the embodiment of her evilness."
Only one thing regarding sin, it is also referred to as the "loom of destiny" in Greek mythology and in others, they are in charge of determining destiny where not even the gods can escape it. The point is that it seems that the sinner has a connection with the abyss, the abyss is also represented as a night sky full of stars, the traveler also travels through the sea of stars, and finally to the sea of quanta in honkai impact 3, in Some of his manhwa seems exactly the same as what we see when we open a domain in genshin, if a sea of stars where the stars are the different worlds and universes that are there. Finally, following Honkai 3 (and other games associated with it), genshin and star rail are a multiverse that complies with certain rules already established in one way or another, and the honkai being a force that "forces" a fight for the survival of humanity to try to make the world fall into the sea of quanta but this itself made humanity advance to levels that it would never reach without the honkai not having been present, being in genshin the one who fulfills that task of "forcing destiny" the abyss bringing war, pestilence and destruction, thus making humans advance in the face of calamity, hence the sinner is called the "loom of destiny".
yknow what would be insane? If the writer got inspo for flowers for princess fischl off of his prince/princess. yknow.. the abyss twin. Blonde, Prince/ss that was exiled (traveller in jini quest said "more like exiled" in response to being called a prince/ss) that TRAVELS WORLDS or plains (nations) and collects fragments of the divine halberd (collecting elements) (and according to traveler: gaining their power back) edit: i am an idiot I just saw the part of the video now
I actually had the same thought a while after GAA listening to her soundtrack - did Pierro name the harbingers after commedia dell'arte because the theatre was a huge cultural thing in khaenriah? Also I just find it very hard to believe that they made all those assets for her domains just to use it once in GAA! I can't help but think we'll be able to go to khaenriah one day and we'll see the same purple castles again
A detail I find interesting that I've seen no one mention (maybe someone has, but I'm not aware), is that with the whole theory about the Sinner being king Irmin, and him being the same as king Deshret, the "Scarlet King" (scarlet/crimson like the eye of Irmin/Fischl), we know of an actual confirmed descendant of Deshret: Candace, who doesn't have red eyes or an eyepatch, but does have heterochromia. Don't know what to make out of it, just food for thought haha
I can't seem to stop thinking about how Fallen rosemary in honkai, an alternate universe rita seems to fit so much with fischl's inspiration here, not only because they dress very similar, but the fact that fallen rosemary has at least one of her eyes the color red(the other eye is also covered, so there's also that), and beyong that is her norse mythology based skillset(i swear to god, nearly every skill of her has a name that references norse mythology), being able to summon a wolf, a serpent, and another being called "trickster" which she refers to with the name "loki" in the end of a event story in honkai, there's also the owl, strix seems to be it's name but i don't recognize the name as of yet, gotta research more
What if the Oz with Amy is the actual Oz Fischl had, Oz appeared before Amy to turn her into Fischl, Every time Amy breaks character Oz corrects her almost like he needs her to stay that way?
I'm pretty sure that the Princess Fischl from the book was a real person cause if you look at the Thundering Fury and Thundersoother domain it’s description is talking about Fischl’s kingdom and the domain’s name (Midsummer Courtyard) is a translation to the Sommernachtgarten. This shows that the Immernachtreich really existed!
*put thin-fold hat here. This only wild speculation, so listen.* All this talk about eyes made me remember about the Third Eye from the Adepti. Listen, at some point, Irmin must had heard about the Adepti and their rather unique skill to control elemental energy. This made you question if Irmin giving his eye in exchange also allowed him to have an element too, Time. But since he was still a human being such power took a huge toll on him and his healt, which lead to his death. So it's not really a surprise that the character of Princess Fishcl could be mix of few characters from Khaenriah, elements and more. Such as: Have an eyepatch like Irmin. From royalty like Kaeya's family. Is from a fallen bloodline like Eclipse Dynasty. The flowers could be more or less a reference to the Inteyvat. And of course, the use of dreams. Could be that Khaenri'ahs's dreams and ambition were never aknowledge by Celestia since they were deemed to ambitous to have Visions.
Put simply i am interested to know why Mr. 9 would be a different person then Chang the 9th. The rest i take zero issue with and thank you for the great video
I guess they could be the same, since Chang has a rare copy of Vol 6 of Shattered Halberd that Xingqiu was looking for, and especially since he was 'Big Nine' to 'Little Nine', his long deceased friend who he thinks is still alive. And iirc the names are even more similar in CN/JP. But my personal understanding is like this: in the commission "This Novel is Amazing!", it's implied that he isn't (at least initially) famous or even really known by the Yae Publishing House, and wants to get famous/published worldwide so his friend will read it (not realizing she is long deceased). I've always assumed Mr. Nine was already famous, given his loyal fanbase, and the interviews at the end of his collections. Also, Chang is introduced as a rare book collector (and that's why he would have Vol 6), and he calls Shattered Halberd an 'epoch-defining masterpiece' that basically created the martial arts genre. I've always found that last part weird, if Chang were Mr. Nine talking about his own book that way 😅 But the naming similarity is still super weird, so who knows! Just speculation on my part
Did anyone talked about that one Fischl voiceline “When it snows”? Let me write the whole voiceline here: “A wonderful sight indeed. Why, it reminds me of my home world, where at the sight of the Prinzessin der Verurteilung, the very blood and tears of sinners turn into ice! *starts sneezing lmao* Oz: Not only their blood and tears, but also their saliva and mucus, mein Fräulein.” She always annoys me with this one when i take a step into Dragonspine, and after hearing that she has fatui anthem in her theme song, it found it really weird. I think she might have some connection with Shneznaya, it was the first conclusion i came up with, or even Dragonspine, how you mentioned that theory with celestial nails in the previous video. And THANK YOU SOO MUCH, Fisch was one of my first characters and she is my best and fav character even today and I havent seen many people talk about her story. Its true when I finished her character story 4, I was kinda sad that she wasnt a real princess that would connect us to the lore more, but later on when i found about books, she started to get little bit suspicious to me, and the fact she stayed in Honkai as a valkyrie. She plays off as the delusional character, well yeah, she is delusional, at least Amy is, but as for Fischl, the whole persona (I heard somewhere she has multiple personas, but idk about it thet much) may represent certain someone. The last thing - Did you guys also find her parents really weird? they are described as a regular adventurers who were really busy, but since the Flowers for Princess Fischl…
Another potential suspect of Fischl's identity could also be Istaroth. The GAA is a touchy source because of how fanficy the story is, but if you brush that aside you can see parallels between Fischl and the founding of the Immernachtreich and Istaroth descending upon Enkanomiya. In addition to that is the way they are worshipped: Both are venerated through theater plays and music, and are both hailed as saviors (Soteria being one part of the Ichthys of christianity, which symbolizes Christ). And another thing to note is that Istaroth has connections to Khaenri'ah, being there during the Calamity when Makoto learned how to imbed her consciousness in timey-whimey shenanigans. I know better than to take the GAA at its word considering Amy's fangirl proclivities, but... most of the heaviest and obscure lore drops happen during these events. My theory that Fischl-Istaroth is probably fragile, but I still have to wonder about the correlations.
It might be true what you are saying, after all (and I haven’t heard of many talking about it), everything regarding the travelers must be neutral or just changed a little bit. How did we (if we chose Lumine as our traveler) get the inteyvat, when supposedly this is our first journey through teyvat? Interesting theory
So I've been binge-watching all your vids, especially the old ones, and it's fascinating to see that your speculations and references taking form as the story progresses, nailing some lore points Like from 13:42 about loop (where the abyss sibling already experienced everything) and at 14:16 somehow mirroring what Kaeya asked the Traveler about fate during his latest hangout event. Ahh... I can see lots of Kaeya's hypothetical lines here! And this vid was like already 6 months ago! Please tell me you're not one of the writers... 🤔 Oh, I so love watching and following your lore videos! It doesn't make me confuse nor it has any self-insert "facts" (aka unconfirmed crack theory) mixed to narratives unlike other theorists because your videos clearly separates it so as not to misguide the watchers And now, watching your old speculations slowly nailing some lore points, now that's something Keep it up! I'm always supporting your channel 🥰
Ooooh, now I'm gonna be on the lookout for more connections between Princess Fischl and the Tsaritsa. Also, I really have to read the Shattered Halberd.
now that i think about it, it's kinda funny that a game based on luck is meditating so much on fate. i guess if you roll the dice enough times the results become predictable. is statistics another word for destiny? lol.
So do you think either of these stories have Fischl as an actual sovereign or is her dad the sovereign? It seems ambiguous. And that's also somewhat true of Fischl the PC. At times she's called the sovereign princess and at other times her dad is called a king. If she's just the heir then your analogy to King Irmin or the Cryo Archon seems to fail?
I wish i could comment about some very important not yet added VOL of the book to the game 😭 it all makes sense once you read the full pale princess book…….. i sinned and looked at leaked volumes
I was soo confused looking around in the space where Durandal was imprisoned in by Otto- Looked eerily like a destroyed Celestia or at least where the Heavenly Principles stopped the twin.
@@EverydayASunday oh i am not that far in the story but the rafrances not 1min passes with me not making a theory /finding conection I want HI3 fishel so bad i got elysa(my fav ) and her wepon
If you like them then why not play them ? Genshin have a lot of s.c. "Dry weeks", so after completing most of the content you will simply live Patch after Patch and will need just to spend 30 mins daily, so Genshin gives a lot of time to play other games at the same time.
@@ThefOf1000Faces Tbh it is hard to say about lore part, but they definitely have some worked things in HI3 moved to Genshin, so does it Really mean something ? Hard to say, even when there are some theories, that say about one universe, but HI3 definitely can give some hints to Genshin lore and even vice versa (there was a "scandal" once, when HI3 spoiled something from upcoming Genshin patch, but as for me it was Spoiler which you will notice only after experience of the content is spoils, so not really a spoiler...). But the thing about One Universe is kinda interesting too, for me at least, but yea, be careful, cos things can be mixed up, but do not think that this is critical, cos at least there are a lot of good lore channels and this can be fixed by watching them if confused or mixing up something. HI3 was too much time consuming for me, so I dropped it unfortunately cos 2 games were too much even with Genshin's dry weeks for me, but still watching some HI3 lore theorists.
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Interesting fact, that both Amy and Oz(Oze) are in The Lesser Key of Solomon as Archon names (Buer, Morax, Barbatos..... also Paimon.) and come one after another.
My Theory was Always that Chang the Ninth was Mr Nine.
I guess it could be, since he has a rare copy of Vol 6 of Shattered Halberd that Xingqiu was looking for, and especially since he was 'Big Nine' to 'Little Nine', his long deceased friend who he thinks is still alive. And iirc the names are even more similar in CN/JP. But my personal understanding is like this: in the commission "This Novel is Amazing!", it's implied that he isn't (at least initially) famous or even really known by the Yae Publishing House, and wants to get famous/published worldwide so his friend will read it (not realizing she is long deceased). I've always assumed Mr. Nine was already famous, given his loyal fanbase, and the interviews at the end of his collections. Also, Chang is introduced as a rare book collector (and that's why he would have Vol 6), and he calls Shattered Halberd an 'epoch-defining masterpiece' that basically created the martial arts genre. I've always found that last part weird, if Chang were Mr. Nine talking about his own book that way 😅
But the naming similarity is still super weird, so who knows!
What if he is some kind of descendant of MrNine?
Rewatching these videos after the new dain quest got me questioning about the sinners and mr nine @roozeveltfox
Looking at the skyline for Fischl's GAA island, it makes me think it's more like a cracked egg and we all know who made the sky out of its hatched egg shell. Yeah, everything goes back to Phanes.
Pierro a witch of the hexenzikel
And now kaeya a princess
The idea that real Fishl is Tsaritsa actually neat if we assume that God-father is Phanes. In Orphism Phanes and Eros were considered the same god. Eros in greek mythology is a god of love, while Tsaritsa is theorized to be a goddess of love.
I might be streching it but i kinda think that Kapatcir (Tsurumi's Great Thunderbird) might be one of Irmin/Odin's raven familiars. Also in the Ei's nightmare trailer, it show's Kapatcir being struck by Raiden, aaaand somehow has a very similar appearance to Oz. Kapatcir also said along the lines of "I've forgotten the name that 'she' gave me", genshin's odin could be woman or simply a translation error (wouldn't be the first)
Oh that theory is cool there was a theory thay are rrlated to the shade of death but bring irmis familiar yes i am subscribing to that for now
if it is a translation error, it would have been fixed by now.
i'm more into the theory that kapatcir is the real Oz. that there was a real princess fischl in the past.
I played hi3 what coud be is that Mr.9 or the rl fishel went to GI and kapacher was the familiar and cuz of thr bubble thing oz is genshins kapachir or he is a decandant of kapachir
When we found out about The Sinner, and that concept became such a focus for speculation, I couldn't help but think of Amy's mentions of "sins" in her ascension passive (undone be thy sinful hex!), and constellation names (devourer of sins). It really makes this theory of Princess Fischl being from Khaenri'ah click into place for me. Another character with red(ish) eyes and sin in her constellations is Rosaria (the wages of sin). Might be worth keeping an eye (pun intended) on her.
I have a theory that Rosaria is from Snezhnaya since her character story mentions a very cold village. Her weapon of choice is said to be tied to traitors in Mondstadt's history, too.
My other theory is that she might've seen the Abyss since her eyes are very funky, and she's very connected to concepts like "shadows" or "heresy." Also, her former gang may have been connected to the Fatui because her design is way too similar to the Mirror Maidens (even same VAs in English, iirc) to be just a coincidence
Bonus points: on their archive descriptions, Mirror Maidens are stated to have their eyes covered for having seen things that changed them and may or may not have made them obsessed with something. Another character whose eyes are odd is none other than Childe, who's seen the Abyss, too.
Rosaria's talents and constellations talk about trials, judgment, and divine punishment, all of which are tied to Hydro Archon instead of Cryo, and Mirror Maidens are Hydro users.
Hoyoverse knows better than to make an amateur mistake, like barely putting any effort into her design. They love leaving breadcrumbs for lore diggers instead.
Not to mention, Rosaria was able to stalk / keep up with an apprentice/successor of a seat in the Hexenzirkel, and (correctly) assumes Albedo is dangerous and sus... Rosaria is definitely worth keeping an eye on. She's hiding some spicy tea behind all the alcohol she gobbles, for sure.
I also forgot to point out how her outfits are full of Fatui imagery (check the spiky shape of Childe's vision then compare it to the metal accents on Rosaria's clothes), and her color scheme is way closer to Childe's than Barbara's
In Honkai 3rd, Hyperion is called The Unsinkable Ship of Eternal Return.
Hats off to you for finding out about the connection to and delving deeper into Nietzsche's and Wagner's works. I see all these Genshin lore specialists on TH-cam speculate and have the wildest theories, but they for some reason hardly ever or never land on those two, even though it is by now obvious that Hoyoverse didn't just base much of Genshin's lore on their work, but they did already do so with Honkai Impact 3rd. Philosophers like Nietzsche, also Goethe by the way, and Wagner's operas are the first thing Genshin lore specialists want to comb through when delving into lore concerning both Khaenri'ah and Mondstadt.
20:18 superfischl speculation ;)
About Narfidort
I suspect they mistranslated Narfidottir.
Narfidort and Rinedottir use the same ending sound in Japanese and Chinese.
I couldn't figure out what 'dort' was supposed to be, so that would make a lot of sense! Thanks!!
@@roozeveltfox Since Narfi is the father of Nott who is "the personified night", it makes sense that Fischl is saying "Princess of Judgement, of the Castle in the Sky, the Personified Night"
It also ties into the "Night Mother" from 6 Pygmies :D wouldn't that be Narfi? So Fischl's mother who already went through the Samsara once?
"The Night Mother was the source of all sins, and the Land of Night was the embodiment of her evilness."
Only one thing regarding sin, it is also referred to as the "loom of destiny" in Greek mythology and in others, they are in charge of determining destiny where not even the gods can escape it.
The point is that it seems that the sinner has a connection with the abyss, the abyss is also represented as a night sky full of stars, the traveler also travels through the sea of stars, and finally to the sea of quanta in honkai impact 3, in Some of his manhwa seems exactly the same as what we see when we open a domain in genshin, if a sea of stars where the stars are the different worlds and universes that are there.
Finally, following Honkai 3 (and other games associated with it), genshin and star rail are a multiverse that complies with certain rules already established in one way or another, and the honkai being a force that "forces" a fight for the survival of humanity to try to make the world fall into the sea of quanta but this itself made humanity advance to levels that it would never reach without the honkai not having been present, being in genshin the one who fulfills that task of "forcing destiny" the abyss bringing war, pestilence and destruction, thus making humans advance in the face of calamity, hence the sinner is called the "loom of destiny".
yknow what would be insane? If the writer got inspo for flowers for princess fischl off of his prince/princess.
yknow.. the abyss twin. Blonde, Prince/ss that was exiled (traveller in jini quest said "more like exiled" in response to being called a prince/ss) that TRAVELS WORLDS or plains (nations) and collects fragments of the divine halberd (collecting elements) (and according to traveler: gaining their power back)
edit: i am an idiot I just saw the part of the video now
I actually had the same thought a while after GAA listening to her soundtrack - did Pierro name the harbingers after commedia dell'arte because the theatre was a huge cultural thing in khaenriah? Also I just find it very hard to believe that they made all those assets for her domains just to use it once in GAA! I can't help but think we'll be able to go to khaenriah one day and we'll see the same purple castles again
I think Fishel took a girl that was obsessed with the story put her away and replaced her.
I think Amy is locked away in a serenity teapot somewhere.
A detail I find interesting that I've seen no one mention (maybe someone has, but I'm not aware), is that with the whole theory about the Sinner being king Irmin, and him being the same as king Deshret, the "Scarlet King" (scarlet/crimson like the eye of Irmin/Fischl), we know of an actual confirmed descendant of Deshret: Candace, who doesn't have red eyes or an eyepatch, but does have heterochromia. Don't know what to make out of it, just food for thought haha
Abyss sibling is literally living a life of someone's fate belongs to the royal family!
And her origin is corrupted.
I can't seem to stop thinking about how Fallen rosemary in honkai, an alternate universe rita seems to fit so much with fischl's inspiration here, not only because they dress very similar, but the fact that fallen rosemary has at least one of her eyes the color red(the other eye is also covered, so there's also that), and beyong that is her norse mythology based skillset(i swear to god, nearly every skill of her has a name that references norse mythology), being able to summon a wolf, a serpent, and another being called "trickster" which she refers to with the name "loki" in the end of a event story in honkai, there's also the owl, strix seems to be it's name but i don't recognize the name as of yet, gotta research more
What if the Oz with Amy is the actual Oz Fischl had, Oz appeared before Amy to turn her into Fischl, Every time Amy breaks character Oz corrects her almost like he needs her to stay that way?
I'm pretty sure that the Princess Fischl from the book was a real person cause if you look at the Thundering Fury and Thundersoother domain it’s description is talking about Fischl’s kingdom and the domain’s name (Midsummer Courtyard) is a translation to the Sommernachtgarten. This shows that the Immernachtreich really existed!
20:16 superFISCHL speculation... nice
Immernachtreich might not be Khaenriah but another underground realm just like Enkanomia
you say the video is unhinged but it's actually perfectly organized and sensible and well-explained 🤔 when are we getting some real crazy?
*put thin-fold hat here. This only wild speculation, so listen.*
All this talk about eyes made me remember about the Third Eye from the Adepti. Listen, at some point, Irmin must had heard about the Adepti and their rather unique skill to control elemental energy. This made you question if Irmin giving his eye in exchange also allowed him to have an element too, Time. But since he was still a human being such power took a huge toll on him and his healt, which lead to his death.
So it's not really a surprise that the character of Princess Fishcl could be mix of few characters from Khaenriah, elements and more.
Such as:
Have an eyepatch like Irmin.
From royalty like Kaeya's family.
Is from a fallen bloodline like Eclipse Dynasty.
The flowers could be more or less a reference to the Inteyvat.
And of course, the use of dreams. Could be that Khaenri'ahs's dreams and ambition were never aknowledge by Celestia since they were deemed to ambitous to have Visions.
20:17 hehe superFISCHL
WORLD BEAST WHO WILL SWALLOW ALL DREAMS AT THE END OF THE UNIVERSE? Isn’t that kinda like what the Melusine Canotila called the Traveler?
in before Fischl is the princess in Veras Melancholy. But was isekaid in a different era of Teyvat.
superfischl speculation.....
Put simply i am interested to know why Mr. 9 would be a different person then Chang the 9th. The rest i take zero issue with and thank you for the great video
I guess they could be the same, since Chang has a rare copy of Vol 6 of Shattered Halberd that Xingqiu was looking for, and especially since he was 'Big Nine' to 'Little Nine', his long deceased friend who he thinks is still alive. And iirc the names are even more similar in CN/JP. But my personal understanding is like this: in the commission "This Novel is Amazing!", it's implied that he isn't (at least initially) famous or even really known by the Yae Publishing House, and wants to get famous/published worldwide so his friend will read it (not realizing she is long deceased). I've always assumed Mr. Nine was already famous, given his loyal fanbase, and the interviews at the end of his collections. Also, Chang is introduced as a rare book collector (and that's why he would have Vol 6), and he calls Shattered Halberd an 'epoch-defining masterpiece' that basically created the martial arts genre. I've always found that last part weird, if Chang were Mr. Nine talking about his own book that way 😅
But the naming similarity is still super weird, so who knows! Just speculation on my part
Interesting that the sky was shattered in the archipelago Immernachtreich.
Did anyone talked about that one Fischl voiceline “When it snows”? Let me write the whole voiceline here: “A wonderful sight indeed. Why, it reminds me of my home world, where at the sight of the Prinzessin der Verurteilung, the very blood and tears of sinners turn into ice! *starts sneezing lmao* Oz: Not only their blood and tears, but also their saliva and mucus, mein Fräulein.” She always annoys me with this one when i take a step into Dragonspine, and after hearing that she has fatui anthem in her theme song, it found it really weird. I think she might have some connection with Shneznaya, it was the first conclusion i came up with, or even Dragonspine, how you mentioned that theory with celestial nails in the previous video.
And THANK YOU SOO MUCH, Fisch was one of my first characters and she is my best and fav character even today and I havent seen many people talk about her story. Its true when I finished her character story 4, I was kinda sad that she wasnt a real princess that would connect us to the lore more, but later on when i found about books, she started to get little bit suspicious to me, and the fact she stayed in Honkai as a valkyrie. She plays off as the delusional character, well yeah, she is delusional, at least Amy is, but as for Fischl, the whole persona (I heard somewhere she has multiple personas, but idk about it thet much) may represent certain someone. The last thing - Did you guys also find her parents really weird? they are described as a regular adventurers who were really busy, but since the Flowers for Princess Fischl…
THIS
Another potential suspect of Fischl's identity could also be Istaroth.
The GAA is a touchy source because of how fanficy the story is, but if you brush that aside you can see parallels between Fischl and the founding of the Immernachtreich and Istaroth descending upon Enkanomiya.
In addition to that is the way they are worshipped: Both are venerated through theater plays and music, and are both hailed as saviors (Soteria being one part of the Ichthys of christianity, which symbolizes Christ).
And another thing to note is that Istaroth has connections to Khaenri'ah, being there during the Calamity when Makoto learned how to imbed her consciousness in timey-whimey shenanigans.
I know better than to take the GAA at its word considering Amy's fangirl proclivities, but... most of the heaviest and obscure lore drops happen during these events.
My theory that Fischl-Istaroth is probably fragile, but I still have to wonder about the correlations.
I'm halfway watching and hear you mention caribert... Sigh i guess i have to finish the quest first, i promise I'll come back!
Watching through these older videos now that I've discovered your channel and these images you use are hilarious
It might be true what you are saying, after all (and I haven’t heard of many talking about it), everything regarding the travelers must be neutral or just changed a little bit. How did we (if we chose Lumine as our traveler) get the inteyvat, when supposedly this is our first journey through teyvat? Interesting theory
So I've been binge-watching all your vids, especially the old ones, and it's fascinating to see that your speculations and references taking form as the story progresses, nailing some lore points
Like from 13:42 about loop (where the abyss sibling already experienced everything) and at 14:16 somehow mirroring what Kaeya asked the Traveler about fate during his latest hangout event. Ahh... I can see lots of Kaeya's hypothetical lines here! And this vid was like already 6 months ago!
Please tell me you're not one of the writers... 🤔
Oh, I so love watching and following your lore videos! It doesn't make me confuse nor it has any self-insert "facts" (aka unconfirmed crack theory) mixed to narratives unlike other theorists because your videos clearly separates it so as not to misguide the watchers
And now, watching your old speculations slowly nailing some lore points, now that's something
Keep it up! I'm always supporting your channel 🥰
Ooooh, now I'm gonna be on the lookout for more connections between Princess Fischl and the Tsaritsa. Also, I really have to read the Shattered Halberd.
Shattering the firmament! That’s also shown in the Canotila quest
I had to snort and replay where you said Gesamtkunstwerk at 10:33 😂😂 being German it's hilarious to hear
I think Mr Nine is a reference to the 9 realms of Norse Mythology 🤔🤔🤔
Ok, that was deep.
Great video, thank you
Enjoying the videos as usual and AWOOOOOO!
i giggled at superfischl
now that i think about it, it's kinda funny that a game based on luck is meditating so much on fate. i guess if you roll the dice enough times the results become predictable. is statistics another word for destiny? lol.
So you could say that the prinzessen is determined to...FIGHT AGAINST YOIR FATE!!
obligatory star rail reference
So do you think either of these stories have Fischl as an actual sovereign or is her dad the sovereign? It seems ambiguous. And that's also somewhat true of Fischl the PC. At times she's called the sovereign princess and at other times her dad is called a king. If she's just the heir then your analogy to King Irmin or the Cryo Archon seems to fail?
Beast of the world. Choronzon.
I wish i could comment about some very important not yet added VOL of the book to the game 😭 it all makes sense once you read the full pale princess book…….. i sinned and looked at leaked volumes
Pierro could also be who Fischl represents
Why lumine and not fischl
I love amy she my favorite character
I actually like Amy's personality/s and i think she's really....Interesting.
Idk if it's a good or bad idea to play HI3 and genshin at the same time cuz i have a lot of theorys rn
I was soo confused looking around in the space where Durandal was imprisoned in by Otto- Looked eerily like a destroyed Celestia
or at least where the Heavenly Principles stopped the twin.
@@EverydayASunday oh i am not that far in the story but the rafrances not 1min passes with me not making a theory /finding conection
I want HI3 fishel so bad
i got elysa(my fav ) and her wepon
If you like them then why not play them ? Genshin have a lot of s.c. "Dry weeks", so after completing most of the content you will simply live Patch after Patch and will need just to spend 30 mins daily, so Genshin gives a lot of time to play other games at the same time.
@@Xelluse oh yah i meant lorewise cuz i recatly mixed up somthing
Gameplay wise it's a great balance actuly (i hate farming in all gamed tho )
@@ThefOf1000Faces Tbh it is hard to say about lore part, but they definitely have some worked things in HI3 moved to Genshin, so does it Really mean something ? Hard to say, even when there are some theories, that say about one universe, but HI3 definitely can give some hints to Genshin lore and even vice versa (there was a "scandal" once, when HI3 spoiled something from upcoming Genshin patch, but as for me it was Spoiler which you will notice only after experience of the content is spoils, so not really a spoiler...).
But the thing about One Universe is kinda interesting too, for me at least, but yea, be careful, cos things can be mixed up, but do not think that this is critical, cos at least there are a lot of good lore channels and this can be fixed by watching them if confused or mixing up something.
HI3 was too much time consuming for me, so I dropped it unfortunately cos 2 games were too much even with Genshin's dry weeks for me, but still watching some HI3 lore theorists.
Isn’t Mr Nine Chang the Ninth like confirmed?