U never seen Vince Carter in college..? So exciting to watch.. He was the reason the brung back the slam dunk contest.. penny was nice but Derrick rose & Vince was crazy..
It's because nobody play defense. Everyone ducks out of the way when someone dunks. The whole game has become lazy. What make dunking exciting is back and forth between posterization and emphatic rejections.
The reason why people watch Men's basketball, is for the physicality. Strong post moves, dunks, fast plays, etc. Women can't play like that, so they have to play smarter and use more fundamentals. So now with the Men chucking up 3's all game, and not using any power in the paint, then why watch the Men play? This is why CC is so exciting to watch, and why she draws a crowd. Because she is so damn smart, and she is one of the best play makers to ever play the game. Throw in her ball handling and logo 3s, and there's your answer as to why the Women are starting to draw bigger crowds
Best basketball was the passing that the Bird and Magic area did and you saw CC come in and make all types of passes a thing again and it was great to watch .....also these to Kelces are babbling idiots ....lastly , I really believe that legal gambling now has hurt the game...should have left the gambling to the mob
It obviously has something to do with the amount of games too. Thats ehy the numbers increase the later the season gets. Lower the game count and itll make each game mean much more. I like that football has a short amount of games. teams need every single win. Its way more exciting
Guaranteed contracts made (some) players entitled, many are there just to collect a check and don't seem to even enjoy basketball. There are too many teams for the level of talent. And the NBA media keeps talking about the same old teams, like the Lakers ad nauseam, never mention up and coming teams like OKC and Houston.
I loved this interview with the Kelce Brothers. Remember The MLB Loved her, The WPGA Loved Her, NFL Loved Her… Everyone Loved Her But The WNBA! (And ESPN & SI & Sheryl Swoops 😂) My Personal Opinion Is They Are Getting $$$ In College, And Big $$$ In Big League, But These Young Kids Don’t Have To Work As Hard For What They Get… As The Guys Who Did In 70’s & 80’s and 90’s… ( My Personal Opinion.) Steph Curry Started The Deep Logo 3’s… We Need Something More Competitive About The Game!
I'm with you 100% except for these two points: 1) You said she wasn't about to throw NBA players under the bus, but IMO she did just that; she threw generations of Hall of Famers and GOATS under the bus, by attributing the declining NBA ratings to the greater skill of the current players. 2) You said that given her situation, etc., this is more or less the answer you expected. I expected more from her-- both honesty, and knowledge of/respect for the NBA's history and its players. If she's the serious student of the game I'd thought she was, she's being dishonest. If she actually believes what she said, she's ignorant. Either way, not what what I expected-- I was surprised. And since it seems to me she's unlikely to be ignorant about the incredible skill of earlier NBA greats, I now see some of her previous media interaction and lack of it in a different light. Before, I gave her the benefit of the doubt, choosing to believe her reticence and phrasing were a function of tact and Midwestern manners, plus a laser-focus on only what she does on the court. I no longer buy that image, but now see her not only as a great, dedicated andprobably/possibly big-hearted player, but also as one more image-savvy celeb who's part of an empire-building machine, saying what sells and staying "on brand" (barf). Suckered again, and serves me right.
@@Willard-l7t It's always been an issue for CDS, I don't recall ever watching a video when it didn't cut out. Granted I only really started watching his stuff prior to the WNBA season getting started
@@Shep309 You could be right, I just don't remember it, like I said if it were me I would take a test drive with the other computer format that I'm not allowed to mention for some reason, they're very good for media creation type activities.
I can’t believe Edwards actually complained about being double teamed. He should watch some of Caitlin’s eatlier games when she was guarded 94 ft, double, triple teamed, and trapped. Clark just accepted it and figured it out.
I think she answered the correct way being who she is. It has always been a difficult, (but fun) conversation about which generation of players were the best, or styles of older sports versus newer. The NBA seems to be trying to eliminate certain styles of players and/or position groups with their new wave of everyone needs to shoot 3's. Add Embiid with his comments about needing more rest, and you have a fan movement generally against the product. The midrange and physical under the net play, is all but being eliminated.
Some dynamic duo's of the 90's : Penny Hardaway /Shaq-magic D Mutumbo /Mookie Blaylock-hawks Shawn Kemp /Gary Payton-Sonics Karl Malone/John Stockton- Jazz
Some guy is arguing with me that to be considered a sport there has to be offense and defense which is just ridiculous. So he's saying track and field events are not a sport, or bowling golf, swimming, etc, but using that logic the NBA is not a sport most of the time because there is no defense being played. I haven't watched one minute of NBA this season and I have no intention of watching it.
I think the 3 point line should stay where it is, and no, we don't need a 4 point line. That will make things much worse! If it's boring now, it'll only be more boring then. But there should be a limit on 3 point shots made per player, per game. Maybe two 3 pointers per player per game, or two per half, or something like that. After that limit it only counts as 2 points. This will force them to play toward the bucket.
I thought u was going somewhere.. So if we down 3 pts with a few secs and every one hit their 2 or 3 pointers already.. We can’t win u less we go to the bench or shoot with our center.. Sounds kinda far fetched no? I don’t knw what to do but Leave the 3 pointer alone..
@ I actually watched a game at the bowling alley the other day… knicks vs okc. Okc had some defense… and it looked like the knicks were just dribbling around trying to feed it to kat… bad example. I like the Nuggets with Joker. The W is only taking off because of Caitlin doing something only Steph and Bird were doing before… she’s not as flashy as Magic but she’s got the cool Bird like passes. Maybe more a Steph Stockton…
They should reverse the 3 point line. Anything beyond it counts for 2, anything in front of it is 3. Or maybe the 3 pointer is only available with 2 minutes or less in each half.
Why does the WNBA hate C.C. so much? She has done everything to try and get them to like her. She is amazing and giving credit to the stars that came before her. I have not seen her ever respond to any of the negative comments. Am I just not seeing something that is out there C.C. seams like a genuinely nice person.She's incredibly talented at everything she's done even tempered does a lot of charity work. Someone please tell me does she have a skeleton in her closet?
Hey just make 3-point Dunks to incentivize athletic plays in the paint, keep mid game shots and rebounds 2, s and move the 3 point out like you said CDS .
Why do the people who can make decisions be so mystified about what's wrong with the NBA? Do their ears not work? I hear it over and over, too many 3;s, no defense, seems pretty clear to me. Not saying it would be easy to fix, well the broad outline is relatively easy, but getting it instituted might require a little effort. But they have the incentive of losing viewership to spur them to make the effort, but lack the leadership to make it happen.
Laughably untrue. Today's players suck in comparison. And yes, no defense, and player management. The Washington Generals play better defense. Jordan played all the games. Chamberlin played all the games and averaged over 48 minutes one season. When they actually played defense and never was the word physicality mentioned. 82 games a season, it's too much. Crybabies. NIL is going to make it much worse.
I think the reason viewership is down in the NBA is the same reason it’s down in the NFL .players and media are using the platform of popular sports to communicate their political ideology many times if people don’t agree with that ideology they’re not as interested in watching. I really enjoyed Caitlin Clark story and I liked her and it made the games much more interesting because I wanted to see her succeed and I think that’s what’s lacking.
Hey, I’m not just a one note commenter, but I’m always going to do this just for engagement. Even better if it makes you laugh a little like you make me laugh. A little.
Professional athletes and ex athletes are saying why normal people are not watching the product. Why don't they ask normal people. There are probably 7+ reasons why different people stop watching. I stopped watching when LeBron the Savior came into the league. The King James crap was over the top.
How about NBA only allowed 10 3-point attempts per half. Dunks also only 10 attempts from above the rim per half. There are 7'9" players coming up this will quell standing in paint for easy points. They can shoot beyond the circle but only count as two-point play after the 10 "ATTEMPTS" has been reached! This could increase layup, mids, floaters and other shots. Also increasing the need for a real defensive game plan as well.
Game planning to keep the three pointers for the end when needed and by the best shooter or get them in the beginning to gain lead. Many way to strategize the use of the three pointers.
sounded like no coaching and owner problems for paying them let hope they find a solution b4 wnba suggest to lower the rim and make ball smaller to increase rating
Yeah, it's because there's no defense, waaaayyyy too many 3 pointers, and YOU HAVE TO THREATEN PLAYERS WITH AWARD ELIGIBILITY TO GET THEM TO ACTUALLY PLAY! Players are not more skillful, at all. Defense has been legislated out of the game and players are entitled and lazy.(see LOAD MANAGEMENT) It's not rocket science. People get sick of watching lazy entitled divas not play
Less games? Didn't Wilt Chamberlain play like 47.5 (or something ridiculous like that) minutes per game? his entire career playing 82 games? Fewer games is not the problem, it is exactly as you said, boring ass dunk, three pointer, dunk, three pointer, dunk, three pointer, rinse and repeat. Load management is purely BUFFALO BISCUITS, for lazy players (LeChina James) would Michael or Kobe or Bird have taken a game off Dr. J? Bob Cousy? To be more current, Tim Duncan? When was the last guy that played his entire career for one team? Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe Bryant? Anybody else? They were oddities at the time, now it's gone completely off the rails.
Guaranteed contracts!! Thats why ratings are down. The best players are always taking games off due to load management. Players these days are a bunch of u know what!!! In the 80s and 90s players played 78 to 80 games!
Less talent now period and they have no toughness , Mchale close lined Rambos with a insane play and they didn't even call it a foul plus the pushing and shoving that happened after ....today they go to the basket out of control and fall on there faces and expect fouls .....NBA is nowhere what it once was and i watched the Celtic and Rockets the other night and they went up and down the court and and no one could hit a basket ...SMH
I stopped watching the NBA years ago. To much drama not enough ball. That simple. I don't care about your opinion, I don't need to hear about your newest and latest cause. I just want to watch good basketball
It’s simple, the NBA needs to stop acting like a bunch of women, always crying and whining. To many 3 point bricks. I also don’t want to be told how to live from a bunch of delusional entertainers. LeBron is not going to educate me on anything.
I think she is just using a different understanding of the word average. I think she may be right, the 'average NBA fan' doesn't understand. It's because the fans that do understand, do not consider themselves fans anymore. They don't watch.
NBA players are among Caitlin's biggest fans. Her answer was perfect for keeping it that way.
The reason I traditionally preferred the women's game was specifically because they don't dunk.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm not that excited seeing slam dunks when it seems that EVERY NBA player can slam dunk the ball.
U never seen Vince Carter in college..? So exciting to watch.. He was the reason the brung back the slam dunk contest.. penny was nice but Derrick rose & Vince was crazy..
Go back and watch games from the 80's and 90's. It's way more than just dunks, the games are far more entertaining than those of today.
It's because nobody play defense. Everyone ducks out of the way when someone dunks. The whole game has become lazy. What make dunking exciting is back and forth between posterization and emphatic rejections.
Totally agree.. they should raise the NBA RIM AND ENLARGE THE COURT
The reason why people watch Men's basketball, is for the physicality. Strong post moves, dunks, fast plays, etc. Women can't play like that, so they have to play smarter and use more fundamentals. So now with the Men chucking up 3's all game, and not using any power in the paint, then why watch the Men play? This is why CC is so exciting to watch, and why she draws a crowd. Because she is so damn smart, and she is one of the best play makers to ever play the game. Throw in her ball handling and logo 3s, and there's your answer as to why the Women are starting to draw bigger crowds
the Caitlin Clark effect in force
What? Have you watched the WNBA? They play physical because they aren't athletic ....
Best basketball was the passing that the Bird and Magic area did and you saw CC come in and make all types of passes a thing again and it was great to watch .....also these to Kelces are babbling idiots ....lastly , I really believe that legal gambling now has hurt the game...should have left the gambling to the mob
That NBA video you showed shooting three's reminded me of the WNBA video where the players couldn't make layups.
ditto
Wilt argued that expansion watered down the quality of the product. There are other factors, but he was right about that one.
It obviously has something to do with the amount of games too. Thats ehy the numbers increase the later the season gets. Lower the game count and itll make each game mean much more. I like that football has a short amount of games. teams need every single win. Its way more exciting
Guaranteed contracts made (some) players entitled, many are there just to collect a check and don't seem to even enjoy basketball. There are too many teams for the level of talent. And the NBA media keeps talking about the same old teams, like the Lakers ad nauseam, never mention up and coming teams like OKC and Houston.
I loved this interview with the Kelce Brothers.
Remember The MLB Loved her, The WPGA Loved Her, NFL Loved Her…
Everyone Loved Her But The WNBA! (And ESPN & SI & Sheryl Swoops 😂)
My Personal Opinion Is They Are Getting $$$ In College, And Big $$$ In Big League, But These Young Kids Don’t Have To Work As Hard For What They Get… As The Guys Who Did In 70’s & 80’s and 90’s… ( My Personal Opinion.)
Steph Curry Started The Deep Logo 3’s… We Need Something More Competitive About The Game!
Everyone loves her but the people who really should, it seems! LOL!
@@ChicksDigScarsPodcast Facts!💯‼️
I'm with you 100% except for these two points:
1) You said she wasn't about to throw NBA players under the bus, but IMO she did just that; she threw generations of Hall of Famers and GOATS under the bus, by attributing the declining NBA ratings to the greater skill of the current players.
2) You said that given her situation, etc., this is more or less the answer you expected. I expected more from her-- both honesty, and knowledge of/respect for the NBA's history and its players.
If she's the serious student of the game I'd thought she was, she's being dishonest. If she actually believes what she said, she's ignorant. Either way, not what what I expected-- I was surprised.
And since it seems to me she's unlikely to be ignorant about the incredible skill of earlier NBA greats, I now see some of her previous media interaction and lack of it in a different light. Before, I gave her the benefit of the doubt, choosing to believe her reticence and phrasing were a function of tact and Midwestern manners, plus a laser-focus on only what she does on the court.
I no longer buy that image, but now see her not only as a great, dedicated andprobably/possibly big-hearted player, but also as one more image-savvy celeb who's part of an empire-building machine, saying what sells and staying "on brand" (barf).
Suckered again, and serves me right.
@Alice-xy3fi not a bad take. I'm not sure you have sold me on the idea, but there is something to think about here.
True. I get your point but those players aren't playing anymore. She'd rather not upset the current players is my guess.
That was one long winded, whiny speech. If your feelings are hurt.. too bad.
Umm...she's 23. She doesn't know the answer to these questions.
thank you....loved the Penny Hardaway addition
Sound cut out early on. You might need to by the other format computer....
yeah, its quit frequent now.
@@basilfawlty241 Yeah seems like it just started not that long ago, I remember when it was never an issue.
@@Willard-l7t It's always been an issue for CDS, I don't recall ever watching a video when it didn't cut out. Granted I only really started watching his stuff prior to the WNBA season getting started
@@Shep309 You could be right, I just don't remember it, like I said if it were me I would take a test drive with the other computer format that I'm not allowed to mention for some reason, they're very good for media creation type activities.
I can’t believe Edwards actually complained about being double teamed. He should watch some of Caitlin’s eatlier games when she was guarded 94 ft, double, triple teamed, and trapped. Clark just accepted it and figured it out.
@02:00 you are not going to lose half of your subscribers, we love you even when we disagree with you.
Lol! Thanks! It's wild some of the stuff I see on social media like X. It makes me hesitant to tackle certain topics at times.
Daaaamn....Penny was balling out!! Lol
He was lit.. Vince Carter he was nasty to..
I think she answered the correct way being who she is. It has always been a difficult, (but fun) conversation about which generation of players were the best, or styles of older sports versus newer. The NBA seems to be trying to eliminate certain styles of players and/or position groups with their new wave of everyone needs to shoot 3's. Add Embiid with his comments about needing more rest, and you have a fan movement generally against the product. The midrange and physical under the net play, is all but being eliminated.
Some dynamic duo's of the 90's :
Penny Hardaway /Shaq-magic
D Mutumbo /Mookie Blaylock-hawks
Shawn Kemp /Gary Payton-Sonics
Karl Malone/John Stockton- Jazz
I loved the little Penny commercials 🏀
Some guy is arguing with me that to be considered a sport there has to be offense and defense which is just ridiculous. So he's saying track and field events are not a sport, or bowling golf, swimming, etc, but using that logic the NBA is not a sport most of the time because there is no defense being played. I haven't watched one minute of NBA this season and I have no intention of watching it.
I think the 3 point line should stay where it is, and no, we don't need a 4 point line. That will make things much worse! If it's boring now, it'll only be more boring then. But there should be a limit on 3 point shots made per player, per game. Maybe two 3 pointers per player per game, or two per half, or something like that. After that limit it only counts as 2 points.
This will force them to play toward the bucket.
interesting
I thought u was going somewhere.. So if we down 3 pts with a few secs and every one hit their 2 or 3 pointers already.. We can’t win u less we go to the bench or shoot with our center.. Sounds kinda far fetched no? I don’t knw what to do but Leave the 3 pointer alone..
4 pt. line 5pt. line? Half court 6 point line.😊
I hate all the iso 3️⃣ point jack ups
Yeah no half court plays.. I think that’s why the W taking off more Fundamental playing without the dunking make u wonder…
@ I actually watched a game at the bowling alley the other day… knicks vs okc. Okc had some defense… and it looked like the knicks were just dribbling around trying to feed it to kat… bad example. I like the Nuggets with Joker. The W is only taking off because of Caitlin doing something only Steph and Bird were doing before… she’s not as flashy as Magic but she’s got the cool Bird like passes. Maybe more a Steph Stockton…
They should reverse the 3 point line. Anything beyond it counts for 2, anything in front of it is 3. Or maybe the 3 pointer is only available with 2 minutes or less in each half.
good point
The NBA ratings are down because they have all the athleticism, but zero skill.
Wokeness, play style, player load management, set up makes it feel like the regular season doesn’t mean anything..
Why does the WNBA hate C.C. so much? She has done everything to try and get them to like her. She is amazing and giving credit to the stars that came before her. I have not seen her ever respond to any of the negative comments. Am I just not seeing something that is out there C.C. seams like a genuinely nice person.She's incredibly talented at everything she's done even tempered does a lot of charity work. Someone please tell me does she have a skeleton in her closet?
Hey just make 3-point Dunks to incentivize athletic plays in the paint, keep mid game shots and rebounds 2, s and move the 3 point out like you said CDS .
Why do the people who can make decisions be so mystified about what's wrong with the NBA? Do their ears not work? I hear it over and over, too many 3;s, no defense, seems pretty clear to me. Not saying it would be easy to fix, well the broad outline is relatively easy, but getting it instituted might require a little effort. But they have the incentive of losing viewership to spur them to make the effort, but lack the leadership to make it happen.
Laughably untrue. Today's players suck in comparison.
And yes, no defense, and player management. The Washington Generals play better defense.
Jordan played all the games. Chamberlin played all the games and averaged over 48 minutes one season. When they actually played defense and never was the word physicality mentioned. 82 games a season, it's too much. Crybabies.
NIL is going to make it much worse.
Exactly. I agree with all your points
great point on the NIL
Shaq recommended lowering the rim in women's ball. Your thoughts on raising the rim in the men's game.
@@philip6927 dumb idea. Both ways.
I think the reason viewership is down in the NBA is the same reason it’s down in the NFL .players and media are using the platform of popular sports to communicate their political ideology many times if people don’t agree with that ideology they’re not as interested in watching. I really enjoyed Caitlin Clark story and I liked her and it made the games much more interesting because I wanted to see her succeed and I think that’s what’s lacking.
I am not to excited about the NBA season. Caitlin Clark is my favorite Basketball player .
When the NBA reintroduces defensive players, the game will come back. But not until then no matter what CC says.
They will screw up outside shooting in the "W " if they lower rim!
#sottxix
Hey, I’m not just a one note commenter, but I’m always going to do this just for engagement. Even better if it makes you laugh a little like you make me laugh. A little.
What happened to the achievement of 80 wins in the regular season? Is that not a thing anymore?
Professional athletes and ex athletes are saying why normal people are not watching the product. Why don't they ask normal people. There are probably 7+ reasons why different people stop watching. I stopped watching when LeBron the Savior came into the league. The King James crap was over the top.
How about NBA only allowed 10 3-point attempts per half. Dunks also only 10 attempts from above the rim per half. There are 7'9" players coming up this will quell standing in paint for easy points. They can shoot beyond the circle but only count as two-point play after the 10 "ATTEMPTS" has been reached! This could increase layup, mids, floaters and other shots. Also increasing the need for a real defensive game plan as well.
Game planning to keep the three pointers for the end when needed and by the best shooter or get them in the beginning to gain lead. Many way to strategize the use of the three pointers.
sounded like no coaching and owner problems for paying them let hope they find a solution b4 wnba suggest to lower the rim and make ball smaller to increase rating
Yeah, it's because there's no defense, waaaayyyy too many 3 pointers, and YOU HAVE TO THREATEN PLAYERS WITH AWARD ELIGIBILITY TO GET THEM TO ACTUALLY PLAY! Players are not more skillful, at all. Defense has been legislated out of the game and players are entitled and lazy.(see LOAD MANAGEMENT) It's not rocket science. People get sick of watching lazy entitled divas not play
NBA cares more about 3’s than any thing else. Makes it boring.
About the only NBA team I care anything watching, are the Nuggets, and Mavericks!
Less games? Didn't Wilt Chamberlain play like 47.5 (or something ridiculous like that) minutes per game? his entire career playing 82 games?
Fewer games is not the problem, it is exactly as you said, boring ass dunk, three pointer, dunk, three pointer, dunk, three pointer, rinse and repeat.
Load management is purely BUFFALO BISCUITS, for lazy players (LeChina James) would Michael or Kobe or Bird have taken a game off Dr. J? Bob Cousy? To be more current, Tim Duncan?
When was the last guy that played his entire career for one team? Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe Bryant? Anybody else? They were oddities at the time, now it's gone completely off the rails.
Yep. Another good point I should've mentioned is the minutes as well. They played more games and more minutes per game.
Guaranteed contracts!! Thats why ratings are down. The best players are always taking games off due to load management. Players these days are a bunch of u know what!!! In the 80s and 90s players played 78 to 80 games!
NBA is nothing but dunks and 3s. There is very little action like the Fever have with passes, cutting players and running the court. It's boring.
CC will not talk bad about the Nba and it’s her opinion. The games are just not exciting, sorry 😢
Less talent now period and they have no toughness , Mchale close lined Rambos with a insane play and they didn't even call it a foul plus the pushing and shoving that happened after ....today they go to the basket out of control and fall on there faces and expect fouls .....NBA is nowhere what it once was and i watched the Celtic and Rockets the other night and they went up and down the court and and no one could hit a basket ...SMH
Show highlights from Little Penny.
I stopped watching the NBA years ago. To much drama not enough ball. That simple. I don't care about your opinion, I don't need to hear about your newest and latest cause. I just want to watch good basketball
Maybe they should raise the rim...
It’s simple, the NBA needs to stop acting like a bunch of women, always crying and whining. To many 3 point bricks. I also don’t want to be told how to live from a bunch of delusional entertainers. LeBron is not going to educate me on anything.
"Average basketball doesn't understand"😂, nah the fans understand CC, stop shilling this crap
I think she is just using a different understanding of the word average. I think she may be right, the 'average NBA fan' doesn't understand. It's because the fans that do understand, do not consider themselves fans anymore. They don't watch.