"A NBA player that makes $12M, could cover the whole WNBA". But the NBA is already covering the whole WNBA for all its life, the last 26 years and counting.
@@jackbombay1423 but yeah totally agree, and these WNBA players aren't dumb they know their league loses money every year and they only exist because the NBA is paying for everything, so the entitlement they feel is crazy.
WNBA plays 36 games. NBA: 82. The WNBA loses 10-12 million a year. Only four teams are financially solvent. They don't sell tickets. They don't sell merch. They don't sell themselves.
@@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 That was the stupidest comment I’ve ever seen and read in TH-cam history. He is a terrible person outside the court and already has allegations for hitting women. Much less on the court.
@@APMVIII Yeah, 42 bajillion NBA players doing ads over 20 years for the WNBA hasn't worked, but that's your answer. How about... and I'm just spit balling here... make the league less about black female divas, girl power, and general wokeness. And while you're at it - just like golf, volleyball, etc. - move the rims down to 9 feet so they look at least somewhat coordinated. Otherwise, this game is just painful to observe. To be clear, the Top 50 Boys HS teams in the country would DOMINATE the WNBA. Truth hurts.
there is none you cannot improve it as women age they get worse imagine being slower than a 15 year old boy and getting worse as you get to 30 while men get better lol
@@BoleDaPoleliterally has been my argument every time this topic comes up. Speed up the game, wnba player move like turtles across the full size court. Lowering the hoop would improve their abysmal fg% from getting rim stuffed and gives the average wnba player to dunk which yes would definitely bring excitement to the game. If 13 yr olds in middle school can dunk I wanna see professionals dunk
When draymond began speaking in that tone, she became really quiet. I never lol'd so hard in life.. I knew instantly draymond was gonna go off. Huge respect to draymond for saying what every other man in that room was thinking.
It’s socialism lol. You take money from people who generate revenue (NBA), and you redistribute it to those who don’t generate revenue and in this case those who are actually losing money (wnba). It never works. It has not been working for the past 26 years but by all means, continue doing it lol. IT WILL NEVER WORK.
People would not show up until the NBA game starts. It's like a Fight Card. Depending on who else is fighting, most people start to show up when the Main Event is about to start or Co Main Event. No body wants to see the WNBA bro. It's weak. Women don't even want to watch it
Lol LeBron saying "Yep, Yep" but if the guy asked him "What part of the game did you notice?" LeBron's answer would be something like "Uhh, man I don't know there was so many great moments from that game"
For those comments saying that women should watch thw WNBA, I am a woman who does and its actually really hard to get access to it. The only games that are shown on TV are the Sunday afternoon games on ABC and occasionally NBA tv games, otherwise you have to have premium fir CBS sports network or Amazon prime. It's all messed up. Plus their marketing is terrible. You won't know when the all-star is until days before compared to months before for the NBA.
The average WNBA salary for the 2023 season is about $147,000. They just moved the schedule length from 36 games to 40 games. That’s still over $3,600 per game. Many people don’t make that in a month. They play games every 2-4 days. The MINIMUM salary is around $75k, not $50k. They’re complaining about being overpaid if you look at the fact that the league wouldn’t survive without the NBA’s funding.
I just want to point out that playing the actual games is probably less than 10% of a professional athlete's job. They don't just "play games every 2-4 days."
@@cryptaku3404 for that, you’re 100% correct. Would you agree, though, that they are being compensated more for their play on the court than anything else? Checks from these contracts in both leagues are calculated on a game-by-game basis. They aren’t calculating how many press appearances you make, how many times you do community work. How could you even negotiate the value of that? If the conversation is pay, then it’s limited to what they’re paid for.
@@cryptaku3404 No, sorry, the professional athletes of the WNBA do not do all that other shit that normally gets people paid more. Playing the games is more than half of their job. They don't go on promotional tours, talk to media, do this and that. They train and they play and that's why no one hears about them and they don't get paid.
@@cryptaku3404 they’re still getting paid to do what they love. It beats working in a factory slowly killing ur body away. They act like being a professional athlete is so hard but working other jobs can be more stressful on the body.
"Maybe one night y'all don't go to the casino" ....the nerve of people these days and even worse most of the dudes weren't even gonna say anything...Glad Draymond had some balls, even if the rest didn't.
@@princemarth150 how will funneling them even more money each year help address the actually problem with the wnba? Which is revenue and sales, people don’t watch because it’s not an exiting brand of basketball how is giving them more money going to help that?
@@princemarth150the issue is believing you deserve more when you’re already not doing good at your job. It’d be the equivalent of being a chef, no1 liking your food; and proceeding to ask your boss for a raise…. Draymond said the same stupid shit about fixing the all Star game. As if paying them more money is going to make them play defense in an all star game 😂😂
@@princemarth150 how does more money improve women's basketball? If I didn't improve myself or my skills and asked my boss for more money I'd be fired
@@danielcarlson8137 paying players more doesn't immediately make them better at the game. What it DOES do is create an incentive for more young women to focus on honing their basketball skills. If more young women want to train to become basketball players, then the game will become more competitive at every level. If we pay players more now, we will see more and better talent develop over time. Who wants to commit their life to getting good at a game where they might be able to make 50k for 10 years before they're out of a job?
Draymond is a dawg. Period. People hate him because he keeps it real. Even when the league disagrees because of the underline model minority situation - but really - they make millions playing a game and they have to mind their words every time. If these guys could speak their minds more often, the true fan would like it better. The fake fan will find it annoying and "woke".
These days most people hate people who are real and have a voice of their OWN. It’s sad honestly. We need to make that the norm. People just need to stop being afraid of what others think.
what could help the WNBA in my opinion... is LOWER the GODDAMN RIM from 10 feet to ~9 Feet.... if it's good enough to make the ball size smaller by a half inch for the WNBA, then it's good enough to shorten the rim just a touch to make it easier for the average female player to dunk.
@Harry Snothead it aint about the fans moron. Rivalries are made from the teams battling. History you right tho. WNBA doesnt even have much history to be fair. I used to be a huge hater of the wnba but now I see some women now that are actually amazing to watch. I think in 15 years or so there will be a league full of talent and THEN people will watch.
Comparing salaries between two completely different businesses, one with multi billion dollar revenue and one with multi million dollar losses, and calling that a pay gap is crazy 😂 That's like me working as a cashier at Target and saying there's a pay gap between me and Google engineers
The promotion part of the conversation is what always gets me. One of the biggest complaints from WNBA players is that the NBA doesn't promote them like they should, therefore they CAN'T turn a profit...But the WNBA draft was 11 days ago and you go to all of the WNBA players social media and very few of them even bother to mention it.
Lol even if it was the only game of the day people would still not watch it. The main issues are being avoided, because hard realities would destroy Lisa
It sucks because basketball is such a size and explosion based sport. Without dunking it's much harder to sell. Female athletes like FloJo, Marion Jones, Simone Biles, Serena Williams etc can make a ton of money, but just not in basketball. But the WNBA continues to be propped up like a zombie by the NBA, making it look like female athletes in general aren't worth watching, which is a bad impression to give to everyone.
I’m not even gonna lie. I’m genuine surprised WNBA games aren’t free on TV like the other regular channels. Ik damn well I’m not buying a cable plan or a league pass to watch them.
@@EGarrett01 I don’t like the dunking excuse. There’s players in the nba right now who don’t even dunk and are still hella entertaining to watch. Whether it comes to dunking, Shooting, passing, handling the ball, etc it’s just better in the NBA😂
@@MannyParadisee Yes the players are faster in general, but female athletes have proven to be very marketable in a lot of other sports where they compete relative to each other without having a rim they can't reach. Like track & field, tennis, gymnastics etc.
She was asked what could be done to improve the women's game. Her immediate answer was for players to get paid more. She wanted to say that. Her answer could have been anything else yet she chose "pay us more" as her answer. She knows exactly what side she's on. She isn't being forced to ssy anything.
"Take a donation around the NBA" What she means is she wants a portion of the men's salary to go to the WNBA players. Which is ludicrous. Although the WNBA is partially owned by the NBA and subsidizes it each year, they are still 2 different organizations. It's like Yahoo employees asking Google employees to give up part of their salary. Why does she feel entitled to their salary?
@@mrp2301 i think she knows that's answer is ridiculous. I think she knows that more there's no way she can just ask for more money. But, if she said something more realistic and said that the number they get now is more than they deserve, she'll gonna lose her job. That's why i said se say what she has to say.
The WNBA started off wrong. They started the league in NBA cities and a lot of those initial cities didn't have a history of supporting womens college basketball. Now, they've lost teams and only have 12. There are a lot of extremely talented players that are getting cut even after being drafted high. They should take the next few years and look at areas around the country where they can expand to. They should get the total number of teams to 20 then adjust the revenue percentage that the players receive. Areas that could be ripe for expansion are Va. Beach, Greensboro NC, the Knoxville Tn. area, The Bay area of Cali, Orlando, Richmond Va., and Houston.
The NBA donates about $83,000 of each players income, there isn't much of a percentage that they can adjust. They are way over paid based on the income they generate.
@@carloszugzwang6267nah I could see that being true with Jordan the whole “republicans buy shoes too.” Lebron just tweets whatever is on his mind at any given moment with a bunch of emojis like a 12 y/o girl. He is not smart and it shows.
Those LSU girls just said in a interview that they are happy in college and are in no rush to get to the league…you can’t name a male college hooper that actually wants to stay in college that doesn’t have too
Professional athletes make the money they do because of the revenue they generate. That is why WNBA players bitching about money don’t make sense as the league is propped up by the NBA and doesn’t make any money. As far as public servants making more money that may be true but if your talking millions the moneys not there for that unless you trying to pay a 90% tax rate or something.
Where is this woman now! How about talking of CC you want to move WNBA you better start supporting CC because no other basketball player in the wnba has move them in all these years,then here comes CC and moves it 100 in her rookie year, and nobody is backing her.
This is going to sound anti-basketball but i think if the wnba was played on a half court with one basket it would be soo much more competitive. Forget lowering the rim, change the shot clock and let some action develop for once. I think it would genuinely push the game into new territory, and provide a big enough change from nba so that it doesn’t feel like your watching a straight up inferior product. Arena football and xfl understand this, you cant simply offer the same product people are accustomed to getting at a lower level, you have to stand out.
Honestly i like that idea with a 9.5 rim. 4 on 4 wnba id actually tune in. At least watch a game or two to find out if i dont like it. Too bad they would rather go broke pridefully than be humble and make money
They were mad at Luka because he congratulated arike o. for winning rookie of the year, but she didn't win. It was Napheesa Collier. I don't blame Luka though. Somebody gave him her jersey to take a picture and posted it without getting his or her facts straight.
The ncaa tournament this year proved what people have been saying all along, when the games are entertaining, people will watch, and more money will follow. I enjoyed watching the ladies play this year, if the game continues to get more enjoyable it will get bigger.. no donations needed
Reminds me of my shitty co workers. They said they weren’t aboutta work hard cause they weren’t getting paid enough. I said, yknow, boss man would pay you more if you worked harder, making the company more money then saying “boss I’ve done good. Pay me more or I’ll go get paid more somewhere else.”
I will admit that the wnba marketing and front office staff are terrible. Look at all the missed opportunities they fumbled this yr. They could have had Reese and Clark together on the Olympic team for coverage, they should have invested in a high incentive for the 3 point contest. They asked Cheryl miller to coach the all star team at the last second. They are clueless
This was lowkey a reach. Draymond was clearing the air from his perspective, but Lisa is a well known legend that has nothing but respect towards the NBA…she made a joke about the situation regarding the NBA…and Draymond was subtly saying that there are more people that need to support the WNBA aside from just the NBA.
I’m glad he spoke up because as an organization, they are extremely ungrateful. They can’t even afford to stand on their own 2 feet yet all they do is criticize the group of people that are helping them. Let’s be real if they really wanted equality, that entire league would not exist.
I actual agree with her on the point that the women's game is evolving. The reason it has been such low quality for so long is because the pool of women actually pursuing a career in basketball has been so minuscule for so long. I think that is changing significantly in recent years, and we're starting to see a lot more really good talents emerging. I doubt the WNBA will ever be near the level of the NBA, but it wouldnt surprise me to see it grow in popularity pretty significantly over the next 5-10 years
You are right that more talent is emerging and that the league ight grow....but you're vastly overestimating how much. The league doesn't even turn a profit......it will never be a 4th as popular as the NBA
It has improved but it is still third rate in comparison, they have had 26 years to grow in popularity, why should the NBA continue to give to this charity? We know damn well that if the WNBA, in a fantasy world, generated more money than the NBA they would not give one cent to them, their attitude would be, "you must earn it on your own."
I honestly believe Gianna Bryant would’ve saved the WNBA. R.I.P …. Who wouldn’t watch a wnba game featuring Kobe Bryant’s daughter. She was on pace to be a great player
She was 13. A lot can happen in 8 or 9 years as far as how much you develop. It's far from a guarantee that she becomes a top college player, much less a star in the WNBA who "saves the league." Even if everything works out and she does become a star, is she going to make people want to watch WNBA games she's not playing in?
Lower the rim to 9'6" or 9' so the women can dunk. They already use a smaller ball, why do they have so much pride that they have to play on a 10' hoop "for the purity of the game" when they use a kid's ball? Also, not competing with the NFL and other major sporting events is important. They try and market to women- and women don't give a crap about supporting other women. The WNBA needs to market to men.
The WNBA only exists because the NBA pays for it, I don't get why so many people pretend anyone cares or will ever care about women's basketball or women's sports in general.
They dont understand that they cant pay you more if you dont bring more money... that's the basic principle of any buisness ever created, your company get loads of money, your employees have raises because they perform well. GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD AND THEN GO TRAIN i mean that's all you can do, prove people wrong, play incredibly and make them watch, or complain about money cause everybody loves crybabies..
All these ladies are delusional. Your product loses money ever single year and you want more money? Your lucky you have a job and the NBA uses you as a tax write off. The NBA players should give you donations why? What a weird comment.
Someone tell this WNBA legend (with all due respect) to watch bill burr red rocks special, where he discuss what should be done to help WNBA, maybe it can help this lady
‘His business acumen’ when he got 10s of millions of dollars straight out of high school. Billion dollar deal by nike purely to promote china’s agenda. Yeah man, real business acumen, selling out of hollywood/professional athletics takes skill lol
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Draymond was the only one who had the balls to speak out and give his honest opinion.
This is why we love Draymond
Because he's the only one up there with balls
I like his balls 🏀
@@matthewschlieper6865but she aVerages more points rebounds aNd assist than draymond green. I think she has more mvps and rings too.
@@beankobe8205 serious or satire?
"A NBA player that makes $12M, could cover the whole WNBA". But the NBA is already covering the whole WNBA for all its life, the last 26 years and counting.
NBA Player not the NBA. It is kind of crazy but WNBA doesn’t draw a crowd so obviously they’re making less revenue meaning less pay 🤷🏽♂️
you forgot the W in WNBA in your quote, might confuse some people
@@taahasiddiqui1071 Thanks, edited.
@@jackbombay1423 but yeah totally agree, and these WNBA players aren't dumb they know their league loses money every year and they only exist because the NBA is paying for everything, so the entitlement they feel is crazy.
Your commentary is off just saying 🤷🏽♂️
WNBA plays 36 games.
NBA: 82.
The WNBA loses 10-12 million a year. Only four teams are financially solvent.
They don't sell tickets.
They don't sell merch.
They don't sell themselves.
America does not mean salary equality. It means equality for the opportunity. Opportunity is there, but if the revenue isn't there, that's tough.
exactly someone has a brain 😂
Actually, one of them has an OF
That’s a fact, they need to start twerking after scoring and wearing spandex shorts.
If it wasn't for the NBA the WNBA would have folded years ago
Dray sitting like a supervillain LMAO
And just like a supervillain, they always cooking with their speech 😂
You can see him seething in the chair 😂
Draymond a donkey cockroach bully. He’s the biggest loser in Adam Silvers Lazy NBA national brats association.
he's even wearing the same outfit as robbie rotten, the bad guy from the show Lazy Town
Im surprised he's cool enough w Bron to be on his podcast
respect to Draymond, he went off as much as he could without getting bashed. Said enough to make his point felt, but not enough to get canceled
Yeah that was a toned down Dray. I'd love to see him go trans and wreck the WNBA though. I mean I hate Dray, But I'd tune in for that shite.
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 you a fool Lmao😂
That was a toned down dray? LMAO he simply stated his opinion in which you are obviously valuing. y’all will critique anything.
@@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090
That was the stupidest comment I’ve ever seen and read in TH-cam history.
He is a terrible person outside the court and already has allegations for hitting women. Much less on the court.
What happen ur constitution free speech thingy
NBA generates $10B a year
WNBA generates -$10M a year
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
pretty fair tho
wnba actually loses 10 million dollars a year. it's never generated a profit
They lose 10 mil a year
Probably not this year even I watched this year
Honestly RIP Gigi but that was the person the WNBA needed to make a giant impact
Nonsense. Her and her dad went to wnba games. Still empty
@@kennethcook3127 Playing and watching is different.
@@APMVIII Yeah, 42 bajillion NBA players doing ads over 20 years for the WNBA hasn't worked, but that's your answer. How about... and I'm just spit balling here... make the league less about black female divas, girl power, and general wokeness. And while you're at it - just like golf, volleyball, etc. - move the rims down to 9 feet so they look at least somewhat coordinated. Otherwise, this game is just painful to observe. To be clear, the Top 50 Boys HS teams in the country would DOMINATE the WNBA. Truth hurts.
Angel Reese and Caitlyn coming in some bird and magic shit
She died more than 3 years ago. Get over it
It’s funny how she had no words of improvement that the WNBA could make.
1- lower the hoop
2- shorten the court
3- stop complaining
Free the titties. 😂😂
I agree, to me it seems like they were hoping she would be the voice for that change but she let them down.
there is none you cannot improve it as women age they get worse imagine being slower than a 15 year old boy and getting worse as you get to 30 while men get better lol
@@BoleDaPoleliterally has been my argument every time this topic comes up. Speed up the game, wnba player move like turtles across the full size court. Lowering the hoop would improve their abysmal fg% from getting rim stuffed and gives the average wnba player to dunk which yes would definitely bring excitement to the game. If 13 yr olds in middle school can dunk I wanna see professionals dunk
When draymond began speaking in that tone, she became really quiet.
I never lol'd so hard in life.. I knew instantly draymond was gonna go off.
Huge respect to draymond for saying what every other man in that room was thinking.
Everyone there got quiet 😂
Seeing Draymond sitting there brewing is just hilarious to me 😂 just knowing what’s coming is funny 😂
Facts let her have it lol you knew it was coming
1:35
Draymond was brewing hot, the lid about to come off 😂😂
I wouldn't say he humbled her. He just aligned her. There's a lot of unity in the room, but you gotta keep it real, too. That's what he did.
He kept that bitch in check.
Love that 'aligned' her gonna use that
It’s socialism lol. You take money from people who generate revenue (NBA), and you redistribute it to those who don’t generate revenue and in this case those who are actually losing money (wnba).
It never works. It has not been working for the past 26 years but by all means, continue doing it lol. IT WILL NEVER WORK.
@@battyboifided6629use it for what?
these losers in the comments get a hard on from seeing women get humbled and its very strange; you put it in the right perspective
WNBA should put their egos aside and their games should be an opener for NBA games, giving fans an opportunity to check them out.
It’s crazy to think that they don’t even want to listen to people who could potentially be fans by just doing the simple things.
Yeah it could be like going to an opera, give an intermission between games and they'd have more people watch statistically
Ain’t no one checking in before an nba game to watch a wnba game it would just come on before nba games wouldn’t change anything 😭😭😭
please no
People would not show up until the NBA game starts. It's like a Fight Card. Depending on who else is fighting, most people start to show up when the Main Event is about to start or Co Main Event. No body wants to see the WNBA bro. It's weak. Women don't even want to watch it
Anyone else wanna see LeBron turn into Lebronay after he retires just to break all the WNBA records in one season?
Broneisha
Lebrianne. Just one season puhleeze!!!
that shit would be HILARIOUS
Lebronda James
If I’m allowed to bet on it, I’m all in with this shit
That’s why I LOVE draymond. He tells what’s you NEED to hear. Not what you “WANT” to hear. Very big difference
Lol LeBron saying "Yep, Yep" but if the guy asked him "What part of the game did you notice?" LeBron's answer would be something like "Uhh, man I don't know there was so many great moments from that game"
😂😂😂
Sound like some Lebron shit 😭🤣
Just like when he held the Malcom X book haha. Dude can’t even comprehend a sentence let alone handle a book.
Ok skip Bayless
' The WNBA is rockin'. yup sure is rockin. rockin on the edge of a cliff, and everytime its about to fall off, the NBA pulls it back.
Lebron was looking around making sure everyone says something about BG , before they get cancelled 🤣
He's a puppet
@@LongBeachAnt npc
“👀 yep…👀 yep”
Lol
@@lokilucarioactually he is
The look on Draymond Green's face... Seemed like his brain was eating itself.
Having to fight back every thought that popped into his head
Fr bruh had something on his mind
Fuck great explanation 😂👌🏾
I be like that too when I have to hold my tongue
He can’t believe the nonsense coming out of her mouth and probably can’t believe that nobody else was checking her for it lol
Bro was literally itching to say, "That pisees me off.." 🤣🤣🤣
For those comments saying that women should watch thw WNBA, I am a woman who does and its actually really hard to get access to it. The only games that are shown on TV are the Sunday afternoon games on ABC and occasionally NBA tv games, otherwise you have to have premium fir CBS sports network or Amazon prime. It's all messed up. Plus their marketing is terrible. You won't know when the all-star is until days before compared to months before for the NBA.
The average WNBA salary for the 2023 season is about $147,000. They just moved the schedule length from 36 games to 40 games. That’s still over $3,600 per game. Many people don’t make that in a month. They play games every 2-4 days. The MINIMUM salary is around $75k, not $50k. They’re complaining about being overpaid if you look at the fact that the league wouldn’t survive without the NBA’s funding.
I just want to point out that playing the actual games is probably less than 10% of a professional athlete's job. They don't just "play games every 2-4 days."
@@cryptaku3404 for that, you’re 100% correct. Would you agree, though, that they are being compensated more for their play on the court than anything else? Checks from these contracts in both leagues are calculated on a game-by-game basis. They aren’t calculating how many press appearances you make, how many times you do community work. How could you even negotiate the value of that? If the conversation is pay, then it’s limited to what they’re paid for.
@@cryptaku3404 No, sorry, the professional athletes of the WNBA do not do all that other shit that normally gets people paid more. Playing the games is more than half of their job. They don't go on promotional tours, talk to media, do this and that. They train and they play and that's why no one hears about them and they don't get paid.
Shiiiiiii I wish I could get paid 147k a year to play basketball you wouldn’t hear me complaining at all
@@cryptaku3404 they’re still getting paid to do what they love. It beats working in a factory slowly killing ur body away. They act like being a professional athlete is so hard but working other jobs can be more stressful on the body.
"Maybe one night y'all don't go to the casino" ....the nerve of people these days and even worse most of the dudes weren't even gonna say anything...Glad Draymond had some balls, even if the rest didn't.
right??? how disrespectful was that!!!
Mind of a beggar smh
I mean she not lying about going to the casino part but it shouldn’t go to them 😭😭
She is asked, What can be done to improve women’s basketball?……Her reply, “more money”. 🤦🏻♂️
I don't see the issue if that's what she really believes
@@princemarth150 how will funneling them even more money each year help address the actually problem with the wnba? Which is revenue and sales, people don’t watch because it’s not an exiting brand of basketball how is giving them more money going to help that?
@@princemarth150the issue is believing you deserve more when you’re already not doing good at your job. It’d be the equivalent of being a chef, no1 liking your food; and proceeding to ask your boss for a raise….
Draymond said the same stupid shit about fixing the all Star game. As if paying them more money is going to make them play defense in an all star game 😂😂
@@princemarth150 how does more money improve women's basketball? If I didn't improve myself or my skills and asked my boss for more money I'd be fired
@@danielcarlson8137 paying players more doesn't immediately make them better at the game. What it DOES do is create an incentive for more young women to focus on honing their basketball skills. If more young women want to train to become basketball players, then the game will become more competitive at every level. If we pay players more now, we will see more and better talent develop over time. Who wants to commit their life to getting good at a game where they might be able to make 50k for 10 years before they're out of a job?
To quote Bill Burr, "You don't sell any tickets!".
Dray looking like he's waiting for James Bond to enter his lair for a supervillain speech.
Draymond is a dawg. Period. People hate him because he keeps it real. Even when the league disagrees because of the underline model minority situation - but really - they make millions playing a game and they have to mind their words every time. If these guys could speak their minds more often, the true fan would like it better. The fake fan will find it annoying and "woke".
These days most people hate people who are real and have a voice of their OWN. It’s sad honestly. We need to make that the norm. People just need to stop being afraid of what others think.
i hate draymond on a basketball level if he stuck to podcasts i love him
i think people hate him because he’s a dirty player yk..
That’s how people are here from mid Michigan (Saginaw, Bay City, Flint) they don’t take crap and they speak their mind.
No mf they hate him because he's a dirty player. Has nothing to do with him being real and hated
1:37 4:31 The way Lebron panders to everyone while looking around like “I hope no one knows I’m capping” 😂😂
😂as a Bron Dan that was funny😂
1:37 look is more like "she trippin"
No wonder he‘s deep
With China. They love such behavior
Some Steve Harvey shit 😂😂
“shout out BG” making sure that he don’t get called out by the WNBA 😂
Who does the WNBA think their fans are going to be? Men? (Don’t care) Women? (Don’t care)
Seriously…
Draymond mugging the whole time she’s speaking, he was ready to slap her with the facts
Imagine Draymond in the WNBA.. he would finally average more than a triple single 😂
don't need draymond. current barkley and shaq who are fat, in their 50s and super rusty will dominate
@@kcazzzzzu mean a decent high school player
4 rings! Hall of fame!
what could help the WNBA in my opinion... is LOWER the GODDAMN RIM from 10 feet to ~9 Feet.... if it's good enough to make the ball size smaller by a half inch for the WNBA, then it's good enough to shorten the rim just a touch to make it easier for the average female player to dunk.
Absolutely. Same way I would love an under 6ft league with lower rims too !
@@astromigui that already exists, it's called middle school ball
@@LuisVelazquezLV3what middle school do you know that has a 6ft rim??
@@surgeonso4345 he was talking about humans not rims being under 6ft, Jesus.
Then that just makes it easier for the taller woman , there is 6’5 + women
I have so much respect for draymond now
Don't worry he'll lose it from you within the week
@@justjordan6560thas his roots buddy hahahahaha
Damn you throw your respect around like nothing 😅
@@justjordan6560he lost it already
What the WNBA needs besides the obvious = More Skill, its rivalries. Any sport is cool to watch when there's a lot on the line and good old rivalries.
Storylines and Larger than life characters who has crossover potential in all entertainment just like pro wrestling.
@Harry Snothead it aint about the fans moron. Rivalries are made from the teams battling. History you right tho. WNBA doesnt even have much history to be fair. I used to be a huge hater of the wnba but now I see some women now that are actually amazing to watch. I think in 15 years or so there will be a league full of talent and THEN people will watch.
They need more than that. Overall, it’s just boring to watch.
What the WNBA needs…is to be cancelled since it’s bankruptcy and a charity case.
Yeah but it’s hard to establish good entertainment like that when there’s only 25ish years of history behind them. No one has cared for 25 years
Comparing salaries between two completely different businesses, one with multi billion dollar revenue and one with multi million dollar losses, and calling that a pay gap is crazy 😂
That's like me working as a cashier at Target and saying there's a pay gap between me and Google engineers
Crazy of her to say NBA should start donating money😂😂😂
the thing is they basically do lol
The promotion part of the conversation is what always gets me. One of the biggest complaints from WNBA players is that the NBA doesn't promote them like they should, therefore they CAN'T turn a profit...But the WNBA draft was 11 days ago and you go to all of the WNBA players social media and very few of them even bother to mention it.
I don’t follow any wnba players, so I wouldn’t know. But that’s interesting to hear
Lol even if it was the only game of the day people would still not watch it. The main issues are being avoided, because hard realities would destroy Lisa
It sucks because basketball is such a size and explosion based sport. Without dunking it's much harder to sell. Female athletes like FloJo, Marion Jones, Simone Biles, Serena Williams etc can make a ton of money, but just not in basketball. But the WNBA continues to be propped up like a zombie by the NBA, making it look like female athletes in general aren't worth watching, which is a bad impression to give to everyone.
I’m not even gonna lie. I’m genuine surprised WNBA games aren’t free on TV like the other regular channels. Ik damn well I’m not buying a cable plan or a league pass to watch them.
@@EGarrett01 I don’t like the dunking excuse. There’s players in the nba right now who don’t even dunk and are still hella entertaining to watch. Whether it comes to dunking, Shooting, passing, handling the ball, etc it’s just better in the NBA😂
@@MannyParadisee Yes the players are faster in general, but female athletes have proven to be very marketable in a lot of other sports where they compete relative to each other without having a rim they can't reach. Like track & field, tennis, gymnastics etc.
Draymond’s boiling rage lol
“Because it pisses me off” lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it got too real for shorty
There is no such thing as a WNBA "legend".
I kinda feel sorry for that woman. It seem like she know she's in the wrong side, but she has to say what she has to say.
One of the only that saw past that. That’s real bro
She was asked what could be done to improve the women's game. Her immediate answer was for players to get paid more. She wanted to say that. Her answer could have been anything else yet she chose "pay us more" as her answer. She knows exactly what side she's on. She isn't being forced to ssy anything.
"Take a donation around the NBA"
What she means is she wants a portion of the men's salary to go to the WNBA players. Which is ludicrous. Although the WNBA is partially owned by the NBA and subsidizes it each year, they are still 2 different organizations. It's like Yahoo employees asking Google employees to give up part of their salary. Why does she feel entitled to their salary?
@@mrp2301 i think she knows that's answer is ridiculous. I think she knows that more there's no way she can just ask for more money. But, if she said something more realistic and said that the number they get now is more than they deserve, she'll gonna lose her job. That's why i said se say what she has to say.
@@mrp2301 if you read my comment carefully, my point is that she know she didn't entitle to the money. But she has to said it to keep her "job".
The WNBA started off wrong. They started the league in NBA cities and a lot of those initial cities didn't have a history of supporting womens college basketball. Now, they've lost teams and only have 12. There are a lot of extremely talented players that are getting cut even after being drafted high. They should take the next few years and look at areas around the country where they can expand to. They should get the total number of teams to 20 then adjust the revenue percentage that the players receive. Areas that could be ripe for expansion are Va. Beach, Greensboro NC, the Knoxville Tn. area, The Bay area of Cali, Orlando, Richmond Va., and Houston.
Houston had an WNBA team they were called the Houston Comets and won the first 4 WNBA Championships they folded because of the 2008 Financial Crisis.
Eugene Oregon would also be a good city for them. I’ve never been to a city that supports women’s college basketball more
Nah its jus the females act jus like the dudes with not eve half the skill , we want to watch women and cute celebrations not manly women
The NBA donates about $83,000 of each players income, there isn't much of a percentage that they can adjust. They are way over paid based on the income they generate.
Shoutout to Draymond for keeping it 100
Kobe was the person who got me into the wnba. RIP BEAN
They got their cash cow but refuse to take it out of the packaging.
That first guy panders, but Lebron is a huge panderer himself. If you're going to call them out call them all out.
He always stays with popular opinion as a business decision
@@carloszugzwang6267 true
I agree.
He’s not as bad. I don’t follow any of them, but I saw the clip and he’s really not as gushy sycophant as guy 1.
@@carloszugzwang6267nah I could see that being true with Jordan the whole “republicans buy shoes too.” Lebron just tweets whatever is on his mind at any given moment with a bunch of emojis like a 12 y/o girl. He is not smart and it shows.
Those LSU girls just said in a interview that they are happy in college and are in no rush to get to the league…you can’t name a male college hooper that actually wants to stay in college that doesn’t have too
Dude from Gonzaga did it 💁🏼♂️
@@shadowfox-io4gm who? Chet or the guy with the beard because they guy with the beard isn’t good enough for the nba
LOWA DA DAMN RIM. THEY ALREADY GOT A SMALLA BALL AND SMALLA 3 LINE LOWA DA DAMN RIM.
It’s ok to speak English
@@maxgeorge1463 LA time eye did I was bulied
that’s actually a great idea
In a second they're gonna be playing with Fisher Price hoops, still wondering why they don't get paid as much
@@rainierzx9677 aye bro, dont mess with the fisher price hoops. All the little g's started out on those mfers
When Draymond said "it pisses me of!" She looked like she was ready to go make a sandwich 😂
WNBA saying they younger than the NBA. Yeah, but the NBA also played before televised games. In the world today the WNBA has no excuse
She was like damn it "I was told no one was going to speak the truth!"
Police officers doctors, etes need to be paid more
doctors are payed well, emts and police need to be paid more (and others)
By just Increasing salaries or changing the system?
@@AndresPrez they do have to change the system. I’m just name the average people who have to settle for average some money.
@@Wyatt6661 what system do you have in mind?
Professional athletes make the money they do because of the revenue they generate. That is why WNBA players bitching about money don’t make sense as the league is propped up by the NBA and doesn’t make any money.
As far as public servants making more money that may be true but if your talking millions the moneys not there for that unless you trying to pay a 90% tax rate or something.
You could see Dray fidgeting waitin to say what everyone is thinking
She back peddling faster than she ran the court!
This clip really emphasizes Caitlyn Clark's impact on the game in just one year!
The product sucks. Bottom line. Would have folded 20 years ago without NBA welfare.
I don't agree that it sucks, but I DO agree that it would have folded.
She’s high as gas. Better pay doesn’t improve play. Better play = better pay.
Rare Draymond W.
Shout out BG. Yeah she's a real hero accidentally getting arrested for having a bunch of THC pens.
Where is this woman now! How about talking of CC you want to move WNBA you better start supporting CC because no other basketball player in the wnba has move them in all these years,then here comes CC and moves it 100 in her rookie year, and nobody is backing her.
This is going to sound anti-basketball but i think if the wnba was played on a half court with one basket it would be soo much more competitive. Forget lowering the rim, change the shot clock and let some action develop for once. I think it would genuinely push the game into new territory, and provide a big enough change from nba so that it doesn’t feel like your watching a straight up inferior product. Arena football and xfl understand this, you cant simply offer the same product people are accustomed to getting at a lower level, you have to stand out.
Anything to improve the on court product should be tried at this point.
Honestly i like that idea with a 9.5 rim. 4 on 4 wnba id actually tune in. At least watch a game or two to find out if i dont like it. Too bad they would rather go broke pridefully than be humble and make money
Lower the rim to 8ft
They were mad at Luka because he congratulated arike o. for winning rookie of the year, but she didn't win. It was Napheesa Collier. I don't blame Luka though. Somebody gave him her jersey to take a picture and posted it without getting his or her facts straight.
The ncaa tournament this year proved what people have been saying all along, when the games are entertaining, people will watch, and more money will follow. I enjoyed watching the ladies play this year, if the game continues to get more enjoyable it will get bigger.. no donations needed
Reminds me of my shitty co workers. They said they weren’t aboutta work hard cause they weren’t getting paid enough. I said, yknow, boss man would pay you more if you worked harder, making the company more money then saying “boss I’ve done good. Pay me more or I’ll go get paid more somewhere else.”
I will admit that the wnba marketing and front office staff are terrible. Look at all the missed opportunities they fumbled this yr. They could have had Reese and Clark together on the Olympic team for coverage, they should have invested in a high incentive for the 3 point contest. They asked Cheryl miller to coach the all star team at the last second. They are clueless
This was lowkey a reach. Draymond was clearing the air from his perspective, but Lisa is a well known legend that has nothing but respect towards the NBA…she made a joke about the situation regarding the NBA…and Draymond was subtly saying that there are more people that need to support the WNBA aside from just the NBA.
I’m glad he spoke up because as an organization, they are extremely ungrateful. They can’t even afford to stand on their own 2 feet yet all they do is criticize the group of people that are helping them. Let’s be real if they really wanted equality, that entire league would not exist.
I actual agree with her on the point that the women's game is evolving. The reason it has been such low quality for so long is because the pool of women actually pursuing a career in basketball has been so minuscule for so long. I think that is changing significantly in recent years, and we're starting to see a lot more really good talents emerging.
I doubt the WNBA will ever be near the level of the NBA, but it wouldnt surprise me to see it grow in popularity pretty significantly over the next 5-10 years
It's ass bruh.
dudes like this wouldn't watch it anyway because they're women. That's their biggest hurdle imo.
You are right that more talent is emerging and that the league ight grow....but you're vastly overestimating how much. The league doesn't even turn a profit......it will never be a 4th as popular as the NBA
It has improved but it is still third rate in comparison, they have had 26 years to grow in popularity, why should the NBA continue to give to this charity? We know damn well that if the WNBA, in a fantasy world, generated more money than the NBA they would not give one cent to them, their attitude would be, "you must earn it on your own."
WNBA will never be profitable.
Only a miniscule percentage of the U.S. watches professional women's sports.
“Level of basketball” can go to any high school game and get the same amount of entertainment
I don’t like Draymond Green too much, but I respect the HECK out of him for being the only one in the room to call her out on the BS she was spewing
A boys HS basketball team would destroy the WNBA All-star team. They are not high caliber players 🤣😆
1:33 bro was thinking nefariously 💀
1:56 Draymond looking like he just saw the stupidest thing ever.😂
Draymond doesn’t give a damn lol 😂
I honestly believe Gianna Bryant would’ve saved the WNBA. R.I.P …. Who wouldn’t watch a wnba game featuring Kobe Bryant’s daughter. She was on pace to be a great player
nah
Her game was definitely advanced af
I don’t know about all that you can’t really tell how good someone is until there playing college ball and even college player fumble in the pros
She was 13. A lot can happen in 8 or 9 years as far as how much you develop. It's far from a guarantee that she becomes a top college player, much less a star in the WNBA who "saves the league."
Even if everything works out and she does become a star, is she going to make people want to watch WNBA games she's not playing in?
@@KingStreetBrody tell us about it 😂
Bring in more! Make more! Just keep grinding and you’ll get there.
That’s the funny thing they don’t bring in more they actually bring in less and less each year 😂
WNBA being high caliber basketball is BS. C'mon now. If the WNBA is high caliber, then MJ walks in my shadow.
Lower the rim to 9'6" or 9' so the women can dunk. They already use a smaller ball, why do they have so much pride that they have to play on a 10' hoop "for the purity of the game" when they use a kid's ball?
Also, not competing with the NFL and other major sporting events is important. They try and market to women- and women don't give a crap about supporting other women. The WNBA needs to market to men.
the wnba is rockin she says LMAOOOOO
Dray has some fucking balls bro💀🤣
2 more than LeFlop
She looked scared once he started talking
1:34 when you only catch the end of her sentence🤣
WNBA is boring, it’s like girls playing being paid unreasonably. To edit, why they refer to them legend, they're not. They're also boring
Well draymond does have the emotional stability of a 5 year old so he prolly would punch her.
I always respect people who speak their minds.
The WNBA only exists because the NBA pays for it, I don't get why so many people pretend anyone cares or will ever care about women's basketball or women's sports in general.
WNBA: We are strong independent women. Also WNBA: We need men to pay our salaries for our hobby of playing basketball.
They dont understand that they cant pay you more if you dont bring more money... that's the basic principle of any buisness ever created, your company get loads of money, your employees have raises because they perform well.
GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD AND THEN GO TRAIN i mean that's all you can do, prove people wrong, play incredibly and make them watch, or complain about money cause everybody loves crybabies..
Men: Money = Hardwork and Recognition
Women: Money = privilege and grabber
Always been that way
Bill Burr already covered this very accurately.
Let’s just say this 😂 Nick Briz and his squad would smoke any wnba team… even Carlos would go off
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
All these ladies are delusional. Your product loses money ever single year and you want more money? Your lucky you have a job and the NBA uses you as a tax write off. The NBA players should give you donations why? What a weird comment.
Lower the rim? I’ve never watched an wNBA game. Seen enough “highlights” to know better. 😂
1:27 the fuckin soulless nod 😭😭😭 bro is not taking in a word
And PJ lmao just nod and act like you care
Someone tell this WNBA legend (with all due respect) to watch bill burr red rocks special, where he discuss what should be done to help WNBA, maybe it can help this lady
i never liked Lebron but one thing that i admire about him is his business acumen and you can see that here he is advising the whole WNBA for free lol
He was handed everything. Kobe was the real businessman.
‘His business acumen’ when he got 10s of millions of dollars straight out of high school. Billion dollar deal by nike purely to promote china’s agenda. Yeah man, real business acumen, selling out of hollywood/professional athletics takes skill lol
@@Joe-d3t1t Wow. So who handed Lebron his school?
@@Joe-d3t1tKobe had more than bron when they was kids
@@Joe-d3t1tbro was homeless
2:30 look at her☠️
Lol
Credits to her for listening. From the beginning if WNBA execs has treated the league like a true business, they would go further than now.
Nobody in the wnba got Covid!
That´s a Bill Burr line😂
Lmao you portrayed this conversation as more hostile than it really is, great conversation, L commentary by you
She weird af for asking for niggas to donate 😂😂😂😂😂