VW Amarok V6 v Ford Ranger V6 Dragparison: Drag race, sound test & 0-100!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2024
- As promised, here is a set of performance runs and then a drag race between the 2023 Ford Ranger Sport V6 and the 2023 Volkswagen Amarok W580X! It's much closer than we thought it would be!
Some things to note - this is the only spec of Amarok we could get our hands on. Despite all of the equipment it has on it as part of the W580X pack, it's still around 50kg lighter than the Ranger.
Big shout out to Berwick Volkswagen for helping us out with sourcing the Amarok! They have stacks of these available, so if you're in the market for any Volkswagen products, please have a chat with Mervyn at Berwick Volkswagen!
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Intro: 00:00
Engine specs 1:18
Sound test 2:56
Acceleration
- Amarok 3:32
- Ranger 5:30
Drag Race 10:05
Results 18:09
Verdict 18:21
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Thanks for taking the time to film this shoot out. Looking forward to see the difference with the new Amarok.
Pavl....thank you for taking my suggestion happen...i love the exhaust sound segment..thank you 🤘🏻
Haha love how serious Paul takes this, his passion is very evident! Great video.
Well done Paul; great video - you certainly know what ppl want! Thoroughly enjoyed that!
I loved the review, it looked like you had a heap of fun. I would love to be a passenger in a review you do one day. GREAT WORK ALL!!
about time, been waiting for this 🔥🔥🔥
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Another wicked review, thank you!
I enjoyed this immensely!!
Dankie for the display guy's.
Thank Amarok for not disappointing me the Amarok number one lover.⬆️💯
that is what we waiting for, good job Paul.
So sad we are losing this amarok and it’s been replaced by a ford. Loved the amaroks style the most of any ute and loved that grunting V6 diesel. Sad it’s been changed😢
Argentina will do a big change to their Amarok in 2025. It will be the "real" new Amarok, not a Ranger with VW logo.
@@dardoukLYS oh fr? Hope they bring them to Australia because we love them here. One of few utes on the market that can challenge the 79 series
Thanks so much for this comperison
Excellent fun video 💪
Greetings from South Africa
I always love Paul's ENTHUSIASM! It is honestly what keeps me returning to his videos - oh, and his great presentation style and tech knowledge. Just fully entertaining AND informative. well done Paul! (no, I'm not his mother 🙂)
Even with the Amarok winning Mr CarExpert could not bring himself to clearly announce the Amarok as the winner. Historically biased towards Rangers
😂
Apparently VW agree with Paul though, given their decision to make the new Amarok a Ranger model share
Man, I thought I was being paranoid about it but yeah, even after decisive losses, it was still ‘almost the same…’
Ford Ranger Fanboys are the worst, especially when they have a TH-cam channel
new ranger v6 still couldn't beat the V6 Amarok platform that is at least 6 years older (and probably longer as its the engine adapted from the porsche cayenne). But its oh so close lols.
Its the better vehicle the ranger no bias there
It is just so refreshing to see a car video that talks about motor and transmission. Most car videos are about the chrome and number of seats and nothing at all about performance. The ford will increase its sales, now that it has a serious engine. It will be interesting to see whether the the ten speed or eight speed proves most popular.
Great video mate Should do a role start race from 60km as well test top end power might need a longer race way and a brake test that would be the perfect performance test
That was cool mate …. Go the Amarok!!!!!!
Amarok is quicker in “D” than “S”. It’s quicker again with manual shifts. “S” holds the gears well past peak torque. You should be able to get another 3 tenths out of it. It look though that the Ford is torque limited in the lower gears to protect the gearbox.
Totally agree
100% on the money dude
yea amarok you use S just for the initial take off then put it back in D.
2017 Amarok and I have never met a twin cab ute who could keep up with me. These people just don't drive the car the correct way and are just trying to create interest in the new ford/vw amarok. If you want a true test get an amarok owner and car with no association to these people and try and keep up. Ps the S mode is only for off road really.
I've only got a 4cly amarok but i find manual shift 1st into 2nd at 3000rpm is best then shift 4300 in the rest of the gears.
I fitted a bigger intercooler and bigger intake pipe.
before the V6 came out i used to love overtaking other new utes and the look on their faces seeing the amarok overtake them from behind before reaching 100km/h was priceless.
before the intercooler and pipe it used to back off around 3200rpm but with the mods around 3100rpm you could feel it pulling harder all the way to 4500 cut off.
it really felt more like a gas engine and it was hard to remember to up-shif.
i think if the ecu was set to rev higher it would pull to 5000 before losing puff
Hi Paul, can you try the Ranger 0 to 100 in tow mode? Isn’t that supposed change the gearbox shift pattern?
It does
Wouldnt tow hold onto gears longer and not shift?
The Ranger looks like it's short shifting a bit. Doesn't it have a sports mode on the gearbox like the outgoing one?
Both these Orsm engines have had similar outputs for probably 8 years. They perform effortlessly too
Did you do any runs without brake hold? Does the amarok have launch control like the Tiguan?
This is what ive been waiting for, owning the v6 amarok myself
That's the most frustrating countdown I've ever heard. There's no point in counting down if you're gonna say go whenever you feel like it 🤷
It prevents people anticipating the start. Like in F1 where the Race Director has between 4 and 7 seconds to drop the red lights.
Damien is spot on, that's exactly the reason and it's smart to do it that way!
Wake up to youself
Ex Landrover tech here, the v6 they are going putting in both utes goes very well and can have anything up to 306 bhp depending on tuning/turbo configuration, great engine but my god it explod’s way too often! Apparently though they are going changing the crankshaft from cast to forged which is there main cause of failure so hopefully the newer one may hold up a bit better!
They should just keep the vw v6 as is proven very reliable and can go up to 400bhp.
@Dean Wheatley I think VW going for the Ford V6 has something to do with their Dieselgate fiasco in the US. Just a guess, bet ya never know.
I'm amazed they thought a cast crank would have any longitivy in a diesel. 😳
Wasn't there oil starvation issues to the middle two cyl big ends?
In correct it’s the Engine block, the v6 navara had the same issues exactly. Oil starved bottom end bearings, CGI moves to much, its light meets fuel specs etc, can last the warranty period good luck after that.
Well there be a Amarok version of the Everest?
Great video as always Paul👍🏻
The Amaroks are definitely quicker in manual mode and man are they awesome remapped 💪
What do you recommend on the remap, without damaging it
@@martinstokes9204 the remap is awesome, 120,000 towing every day with zero issues
Get the old fat/giant shape with the current remaps
It's interesting to see that the 10 speed is causing the same issues as it did in the previous Ranger.. It just hunts for gears and can't decide where it wants to be, and then won't hold a gear when you need it to. But it looks like a fun day of filming Paul, well done.
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torque limiting 1st and 2nd gears at least?
It’s for comfort use not for performance… still a very good performance at all.
They also dull performance if you hold the foot brake to stall it up, so there is decent delay between lifting off the brakes and full power being delivered.
Ford have been doing it for years.
An ecu tune will sort it out
Yeh need a power glide 😅
Yes yes yes yes mahn. This is what I’ve been looking for
How many Ks does that ranger have on the clock, compared to the Amarok?
Did you check tyre pressures between the XLT and the Sport? A big difference could impact rolling resistance and therefore acceleration.
Chance it could be 17inch rims on the xlt that's quicker off the line than the 18inch wheels on the sport?
Hi Paul. Love this dragparison all the way from South Africa. What if you hooked up some caravans or trailers and repeated the test? Could be very interesting....cheers
Thank you Paul
Hook up some heavy caravans then let's see the drag comparison. 60-110kmph times would also be nice as this is important for overtaking.
That'd be fun!
Amarok is better for towing and beach driving, Ranger is better on rough off road tracks
Did you try the Amarok in Drive or shifting manually? S is actually slower on mine by a fair bit as it hangs onto its gears for too long.
Obviously power and speed difference is minimal. Choice will come down to many other factors. Which feels better on a daily drive, fixed service costs and features for the money on offer. Thats what buyers will be looking at.
Cool, the Amarok is faster
Considering the Ford supposedly has more torque, has smaller & lighter tyres, and has 10 speed gearbox vs 6 speed, I'd say the difference is not minimal. The new package is substandard, I can't understand why VW would have agreed to use the Lion POS.
@@einfelder8262 amarok is a 8speed
@@bowserpippen12 Yes, Speed is a very important factor I consider when purchasing my Ute
The power and speed difference is huge these guys have just mis used the amarok to make the ford look better. There is no way in hell the ford can keep up with an amarok and if these so called journalist say other wise my amarok is ready to go. I am not saying the amarok is the absolute best car out there but in these areas the amarok is still king.
I'm here to see the ' reverse ' race any others ?
Haha, next time!
Like Player One. All you need is a DeLorean.
How many k's on the New Ranger?
Any plans to do a towing test on the v6 ranger?
That’s interesting, have a look at fullboost’s video with the ranger breakdown, they weighed the xlt at 2.3t exact
please let VW know. WE WANT VW TDI in the new amarok please!!!
EEk - might be too late!
In the UK the fully emissionised VW V6 in the Amarok has not got the best of reliability reputations. It’s the emission system that has failed multiple times with two of my friends. One of them was on contract hire and it was out of commission so many times and for so long, he terminated the contract. The other was bought slightly use but with warranty and they can’t get parts for long times and when they do, it only sorts it for a few months.
Oddly, I’ve not heard of this issue with the engine in Audi cars. New Amaros have not been sold in the UK for about a year, possibly longer, for some reason. Used values are very high.
yes ,a VW engine pls .They gone stupid
@@CarExpertAus LOL
@@hedydd2 I'v got the v6 amarok now and I'm OK with it. i found vw TDI use less gas then other utes. only in my case
What tune has the vw got with snorkel. Impressive for 4x4 utes
would stll choose the current model of the amarok v6
Lots of comments suggesting "just do this", or "use this setting", or "even out the tyres", or "equalise the weights exactly" etc. If you have to pump lots of settings, and configure more parameters, it's not just a stock "Turn on and go in default" comparison then. It's a test for those that are chomping at the bit to win. That hardly happens out in the real world.
Maybe the Ranger could be faster if it could skip some gears. Maybe it'd be faster in other driving modes. Likely would be better in towing acceleration at speed. Lots of "other" ways to compare the two.
Either way, it's not a lot of difference. You'd be pretty foolish to opt for an older Amarok solely for "can beat a new Ranger by 0.2s to 100kph" though! There's so much more to it, and literally no one else would care. You'd have to be a fairly shallow person to make that your justification for owning a decade old model.
This was for fun, but not a scale tipping consumer review. If the Ranger had been 2 seconds slower, that might have been concerning. Even if it had been a second faster; that would have been seen as "to be expected". 0.2s is reaction speed difference for most people. Certainly if you were at the lights where 2 lanes merge to 1 on the other side, the driver who reacts faster will get the right of way.
Great review for the sake of clearing any doubt, but in no way an outcome that would sway a buyer.
And as a professional driver I would allow you the front space.
My favorite car (amarok) of all cars in the whole world. Make me choose between any Lamborghini or Ferrari and and Amarok,i will definitely choose an amarok even when i m sleeping! I love that car unconditionally 😍❤
Can u please do a izusu dmax x terrain 3.0l vs toyota hilux 2.8l
I really don’t understand why you had to match the weights. They had different tyres so how does that affect the result?
would live to see a 2t trailer on the back of any ute drag battles.
i think seeing how they go with weight would be interesting.
Hi, Paul can you please do the rolling race❤🙏
I wonder what a brake test would be like with the rear discs now? How much shorter is the stopping distance in new versus old?
Drums stop just as quickly as disks. The benefit of disks is cooling.
please remember to also give us a comparison with the new Amarok when its ready.
Hey Paul, I’d be very keen to see the Ford Ranger Wildtrak 3.0l v6 against the VW Amarok 3.0l v6 towing a 2t caravan
Hi Paul! What are your thoughts on the V6(Land Rover engine)? Do you think Ford is importing Range Rover problems into their vehicles with the lion’s head engine? 🤔
Is there a weight difference ?
Why is the snorkel on backwards on the amarok
Are they both Diesel Turbo?
Nice job,could you please review honda passport also
Well Paul shows if VW could have addressed the rear airbag issue and infotainment it would still stack up well! Its still a cracking beast can wait for the VW tuned version of the Fjord no so wildtrak
Has the wildtrak been tamed ??
It needs the full safety tech as well including keyless, higher wading depth, more cab choices etc.
@@perpelle A slightly longer cab would have been great, add in the extras for safety and tech, it would be my choice. In the end it still seems to me we don't have one ute that is perfect. The Ranger has everything you would want now in features but the cab looks too narrow for the wide front that put on it. And the frontal design is just a bit odd looking and so the black paint work helps cover that up a bit but in white its quite awful, especially is the lower spec models.
it's a known fact that the w580x is slower than the adventure. if you want compare apples with apples you should have had both of them on the same tyres.
It’s the only one they could get, the true apples to apples comparison would be the v6 sport vs the v6 Highline 580 imo
What are the price differences between these?
hi could you do the new raptor ranger vs the amarok v6?
It more than likely is torque limited in first and second much like the landys as it was to prevent the crank snapping on take off!
Waiting for the top speed test.
Pregunta: como se ven las dimensiones comparadas ambas? Ancho, alto, largo? Cual se ve más imponente?
Amarok is about 100kg lighter.
Hey Paul, are you going to do a Sport review?
Snorkel facing the wrong way dude. The ram design is engineered to collect air facing forwards. Why do something people only do in extreme dust conditions?? Just curious
do dmax vs bt50 cause they share the platform with isuzu
When do you do the ford Everest titanium version review?
no rolling race ?
It'd be pretty cool if you also added brake tests to these videos. Cool video as always, keep it up!
That would be a good idea as that is really even more important than the slight different in 0-100 times.
Looking forward to the top of the line VW versus the Raptor, what should be a a good drag.
can you do a float comparison next see which floats longer in a river crossing....
nice trucks...
your contents should be how much fuel consumed with that v6 in an hour on that rqce track!
i bet its quite expensive for an ordinary persons fuel expenses....
Try using this old trick… put it in sand mode and see how the ford goes…
If it is like the RR Disco, it changes the Auto mapping to increase reaction with the box.
Interesting!
WOW!!! Won't forget that one!!!! THX
@@CarExpertAus Same as putting the Ranger in Tow mode which remaps the shifts in the gearbox
Works in the Y62 sand mode.
How about a tow test between these 2? Comparing comfort levels, fuel consumption, etc
The tank is full in the Sport - was it full in XLT? that can add extra weight to reduce the acceleration by 0.2 second :)
I tested and locked in new v6 the other day, however while testing i wondered if the transmission restricted it a bit? almost felt like it was holding gears a bit long and power would drop off - remember thinking gee stop mucking around with so many gears and get going! I wonder if you manually changed it would be better.... ? Getting desperate i know.
It does skip gears too. It can often skip 2nd.
Breakfast menu might have caused the slower ranger compared to few weeks earlier? Just a thought.
Please include the Mazida bt 50
Interesting video, doesn't change my mind on which to buy, but still fyi....
I feel bad for tradies that used to drive V8 Holden and Ford utes. Paul looks so bored/disappointed waiting for that Ford to finish the 0 to 100 😂
Video starts at 11:43
Could you race the new Ranger v6 against the Toyota hilux v6?
I am very happy with old Amarok V6 its so fast , the Ranger V6 with Ranger rover engine ..........
Hmm.. Off late Paul has been super crazy about UTEs LOL!
Waiting for Wildtrack V6 2022 verses VW Panamericana V6 2.3Gasoline 2023 and VW Aventura 3.0CC Diesel 2023 road test
That ZF 10 speed has caused a whale of problems in the F150. So why did they use it? The high torque of that V6 diesel seems to confuse it and it wastes the torque as it jumps gear before the engine comes fully on song. The six speed would have been a better choice especially as its bomb proof
next drag race between them with a 2ton trailer 😍
3.5 ton please. That is their rated towing capacity, or it is for the Ford in much of the world and that is what I regularly tow behind mine. The empty Ifor Williams triple axle weighs 1250kgs empty, so loading it to 2 tons means filling it with feathers.
The numbers are close but I would rather go for ride quality, maintenance costs especially fuel economy
Go the amarok then, better fuel economy
Wat about the nissan navara v6
Liked before watching
Why not try the new bt-50 SP vs the dmax X terrain. Almost everything is the same
It all comes down to the gear box I reckon. The ZF in the Amarok is bit more efficient than the Fords torque converter. Also the overboost feature which for Ford lacks.
Indeed the ZF is a masterpiece
The Amarok is a good 200 kg lighter than the Ranger also
@@billyp4850 did you watch the video? They stated the weights, Amarok is like 50kg lighter, but is on at tyres that's also larger than standard for the rest of the range.
Disco v6 with the zf8 is a fantastic combination.
@@billyp4850 it not
Can you race the old 3.2 against the v6/?
What for it will lose badly 😄
Before I watch, I already know the Volkswagen is faster.
An Amarok tuned is a game Changer!
The Germans kept them well under tuned.
Ford push them harder to start with.
I had a bunch of work done to my Amarok, now more power than a 200, much lighter, and a Wider track! Unbeatable.
Same 👍
200 is a poor comparison, it’s a shit box bought by toyota blinded fan boys with no brain to look at toyota logically with poor traction control, out dated safety, terrible design in seating position and proximity to the B pillars/windows.
All toyota vehicle’s, you can sit in the seat with your arm pit on top of the door easily with the window down.
Kept trying to get the Ranger a better time.
Get the Rok on HTs and watch it become even quicker.
bit weird to be slower than the same model a week a go
Don't think it would have made too much of a difference. We got a faster time in the XLT we tested recently and it was on ATs.
@@CarExpertAus the adventurer is the heaviest model. The rest do around 7.2-7.4 depending on tires etc
@@medz3398
Your mums the heaviest model mate
You should have tried the Amarok as well