Part 1 - Joe Frazier discusses the Thrilla In Manila, his third bout with Muhammad Ali. Next up in the interview series is his thoughts on and relationship with Ali.
Jaranis927 LOLLLLLL, I respect Mayweather’s accomplishments and he is pretty smart in the ring but he is nothing compared to the greats such as Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Holyfield, or even Holmes. Numbers don’t mean anything. You have obviously never seen any of the greats fight if you think a 50-0 record means anything in the ring.
Its sad how these guys struggle to speak now days, the referees allowed fighters to fight bloodied and beat-up till they couldnt stand-up anymore, 15 rounds and all that, now days they stop fights alot faster, they learned from the brain damage that these true legends have suffered from. Love all my old fighters.
@@joshuatree5620 prime : when your individual attributes are at the sharpest point out of your career .. No they didn't joe Frazier never boxed prime Ali but Ali did box prime joe Frazier in the fight of the century
@@joshuatree5620 prime Ali is 64 to 67 Go watch Ali Cooper 1 in 63 then watch Ali Cooper 2 in 66 .. Ali was definitely in his prime in 66 Ali didn't even leave first gear against chuvalo in the 60's and was letting him hit his body and still won almost every round without sticking and moving go watch how Ali actually started trying in the last couple rounds against chuvalo shit man he could've turned chuvalo face into hamburger way worse than he did ...same with Floyd Patterson in the 60's Ali didn't turn up the heat till round 12 and look how that bout ended .Ali in his prime didn't leave first gear most of the time but in the 70's he had to dig deep to get those victories ..Ali wouldn't have been cought with all those hooks in his prime , notice in the Ali Frazier rematch Ali was trying to relive his prime ..
When I was a little kid, I thought he was the scariest looking fighter....he just looked...mean.....but now, years later, watching all these TH-cam clips of interviews that he did...he always seems like one of the nicest guys you could hope to meet..unless it was in the ring ;-)
I am so sad that Joe Frazier has passed away the man meant a lot to Philadelphia he was Philadelphia heavyweight champion long may he Reign and Philadelphia should never forget about the man who put Philadelphia on the map most famous star athlete who came from Philadelphia
For me, the most exciting fighter ever. In addition to letting fights go too long in his day, training for fights was destructive as well, with guys beating each other up in the gym for weeks ahead of their bouts.
Joe was a great champion with a huge heart. There was no quit in him. Wish we could have seen him and Ali fight before Ali's 3 1/2 year suspension. That's a long time out of the ring. Both would have been in their prime then.
If Ali hadn't of had the enforced layoff, there would have been no need for the amazing three fight trilogy that so captivated the attention of the entire world.
Joe would never be an easy fight for Ali. I'm always amazed that people missed many of Ali's flaws as a boxer and when these flaws were exposed by Frazier, Norton etc. these people pretend his 36 month rest was the cause of his shortcomings. No that's not true, Ali was simply exposed as time went on and the competition grew
I'm one of those people that pretend that Ali's 42-month layoff was the cause of his flaws as a boxer. The reason I pretend to believe that is because I actually believe it is true. The layoff was the great equalizer that allowed lesser fighters to have the opportunity to compete with him. For, as great as Frazier, Norton, and Foreman were; they were lesser fighters when compared to the pre-layoff Ali. I don't believe they would have offered Muhammad any real competition at all if not for the layoff. Things did work out for the best, however. The layoff leads directly to the Fight of the Champions, Super Fight II, the Rumble in the Jungle, the Thrilla in Manila, and all the other great battles of this amazing era. No layoff and Muhammad (flaws or no flaws) walks over all those guys. It would have been far less exciting and Muhammad would most likely not be the world-wide icon he is today.
Are you aware that Ali sparred with novice professional Ken Norton in a boxing gym packed with on lookers in Los Angeles in 1967? Norton manhandled him just as he did twice in 12 rounders during 1973 and again in NYC, during 1976. And how about George Foreman, people forget he retired from boxing for 120 months and then it took him nearly another 90 months to regain the title. George's hiatus makes Ali look like a weekend off from the job.
The public missed the best of Ali during his layoff thats a fact and to come back and fight a guy like joe after a couple of fights shows how great he was. Joe is my second favourite fighter was as tough as they come.
Let me preface this by saying that Joe Frazier was a great heavyweight champion and certainly was as tough as they come. But that "legend" that Ali was about to throw in the towel at the end of the 14th round of the Manila fight is a flat out myth that was perpetuated by that propaganda HBO documentary Thila in Manila, but it was total bullshit. Ali may have have been exhausted by the end of the 14th round of that fight, but no way would he had forfeit the world heavyweight title with just one round to go against an opponent that was for all intents and purposes already defeated. Contrary to the lie told in this "documentary," Ali had a commanding lead going into the last round of that fight and Joe by that time was blind and defenseless. Futch wisely decided to end the bout because he knew that the risk of Joe getting seriously hurt far outweighed the remote likelihood of him KOing Ali, which at that point was what he needed to win that fight. At the end of the 14th round, the ring doctor came in the ring to examine Joe and this too was what prompted Futch to end it.
@@thelevisullivan There's no way this could've happened, you're talking about someone who's never been knocked out by anyone in his life even though he had fought one of the strongest boxers that God had ever created, the "more likely" situation in your sentence (which I don't think it would've been likely to happen as Joe was literally blind) is to knock Ali down, which would've done no good, because Ali would've still been far ahead on points.
A humble man with a big heart,constant punching power and energy coming up off the ground much like Tyson. Hard to survive one of those powerful hooks as was a trademake of both fighters. Nothing bad to say about any body just lets his powerful hands do his talking,i like that a bit like some of my pacific brothers ... lol. A true legend Mr Frazier R.I.P
I wish there could be a definitive answer if Ali was going to refuse to come out or just thinking about it. Nothing clear has been said just a jumble of rumors
There is no way Dundee would have let him quit. If you watch the end of the 14th, up until when Futch called the fight, Ali was being rubbed down, with his gloves firmly on. Remember, he wanted Dundee to cut his gloves off the the fifth round of the first Liston fight after being blinded. Dundee refused and pushed him back out.
When Ali came back after the long layoff he lost his legs which was his first line of defense and a big reason why he started getting hit more often. In the 60's when he had his legs he would hit you and his legs would take him out of range before you can return fire. He wasn't as good at doing that in the 70s but still was plenty great enough to be either the champion or number one Contender for the better part of 20 years
@arabion knights Ali may have had bad "habits". as you say, but he was far more talented than any of the others, which enabled him to get away with it. As he got older, his style changed, though it wasn't done overnight. His style evolved over the remainder of his career.
Frazier should be grateful that they stopped the fight, he wouldn't of been standing at the end of round 15 , No way. No how , I'm glad he was still alive for his next birthday.
Sadly, I don't think Joe remembered the Thrilla in Manilla at the time of this interview. Notice his answers are very generic, and he says he doesn't talk about individual fights. Pretty sure that's because he can't remember them. Frazier and Ali literally killed each other.
Rip Joe in my eyes you were better than Ali you clearly beat him in the 1st fight and as a pressure fighter I know that took so much from you including losing the sight in one eye, also I think you would have won the 3rd had Eddie futch allowed you to continue, Joe was the definition of a real fighter, unfortunately pressure fighter's don't have long career's because of the punishment
Rocky fish bullshit his eye was for a lot of the fight closed halfway, these days it would have been stopped Frazier eye was closed for the last round and the doctor wouldn't let him out for the last round you really think Ali was anywhere near going down. Doctor choose to stop the fight than let Frazier go through 3 more minutes. Both these fighters were all heart and would never stop until told to
Rocky fish yep stand corrected on that but there was still only one round left and very little vision out of one eye. Ali while tired barely had a scratch. Those are undeniable facts
@@azza009 frazier was blind in his right eye his left eye was closed but his right eye was not, also frazier should of not even been in the ring, frazier was a pressure fighter who was still dangerous and tuff but the that 1st fight nearly killed him frazier was tuffer and worked harder than Ali, and had frazier not been blind in one eye Eddie futch would of let frazier continue but he knew and loved Joe
@@azza009 Ali is my favourite, but he was going to quit before the Joe's corner told the referee to stop the fight, and Ali described the fight as "pure hell" and it was the closest he felt to death
@@therealc.t.7085yea, I mean I watched everything there is on joe so I would call myself almost fluent in “Frazier” but I showed friends of mine some of his clips and some started laughing because they couldn’t understand a single word, mind you that I’m no native English speaker
It's probably little consolation to him or his family, but he has probably inspired millions because of his bravery in the ring. What a legend
It wasn't he understood completely
Golden days of BOXING...!! fraizer chuvalo querry foreman norton shavers ..n MOHAMMAD ALI ...d GREATEST...on d ToP
rip joe Frazier. They dont make champions like you anymore
Thank You Bill
what about mayweather?
@@jaranis9273 HAHAHAHAHA
Joshua Tree 50-0
Jaranis927 LOLLLLLL, I respect Mayweather’s accomplishments and he is pretty smart in the ring but he is nothing compared to the greats such as Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Holyfield, or even Holmes. Numbers don’t mean anything. You have obviously never seen any of the greats fight if you think a 50-0 record means anything in the ring.
Its sad how these guys struggle to speak now days, the referees allowed fighters to fight bloodied and beat-up till they couldnt stand-up anymore, 15 rounds and all that, now days they stop fights alot faster, they learned from the brain damage that these true legends have suffered from. Love all my old fighters.
J Boy these guys knew and seem proud anyway. Not that that is the case for all or even most of them. It's just a brutal sport
@Jesse Williams they don't even fight one round
It only takes one punch so it really doesn't matter how soon they stop it
@@WILLtTHOMPSON2906 I don't think they did really know then...
@James Williams you pay to witness these guys sacrifice their body for your entertainment.and look at the price they pay in return.
How can the human organism withstand so much punishment unbelievable testament to the will of a man God bless every strong man
Where does your god stay?
@@emmanova9856 where does yours?
Ali's words: The will should be stronger than the skill.
Amen salute Smokin’ Joe
Ali and Frazier got sooo far because of each other! They cemented each other's legacy - God dont make men like these no more
Yes he does you just don’t know them
If I had to pick one guy to go into a dark alley to protect me it would be the warrior Joe Frazier.
Tru ,if I had to pick the winner prime vs prime in a boxing Ring I take Ali all day
@@3rdpersonality48 they fought in their primes at leadt 2 out of the 3 times
@@joshuatree5620 prime : when your individual attributes are at the sharpest point out of your career ..
No they didn't joe Frazier never boxed prime Ali but Ali did box prime joe Frazier in the fight of the century
@@joshuatree5620 prime Ali is 64 to 67
Go watch Ali Cooper 1 in 63 then watch Ali Cooper 2 in 66 ..
Ali was definitely in his prime in 66
Ali didn't even leave first gear against chuvalo in the 60's and was letting him hit his body and still won almost every round without sticking and moving go watch how Ali actually started trying in the last couple rounds against chuvalo shit man he could've turned chuvalo face into hamburger way worse than he did ...same with Floyd Patterson in the 60's Ali didn't turn up the heat till round 12 and look how that bout ended .Ali in his prime didn't leave first gear most of the time but in the 70's he had to dig deep to get those victories ..Ali wouldn't have been cought with all those hooks in his prime , notice in the Ali Frazier rematch Ali was trying to relive his prime ..
@David T come on now Dave use your head for something besides a hat rack
He was one hell of a fighter
When I was a little kid, I thought he was the scariest looking fighter....he just looked...mean.....but now, years later, watching all these TH-cam clips of interviews that he did...he always seems like one of the nicest guys you could hope to meet..unless it was in the ring ;-)
Good one.
Joe Frazier could beat anybody.
I am so sad that Joe Frazier has passed away the man meant a lot to Philadelphia he was Philadelphia heavyweight champion long may he Reign and Philadelphia should never forget about the man who put Philadelphia on the map most famous star athlete who came from Philadelphia
That sentence needs more "Philadelphia" in it xD just kidding
For me, the most exciting fighter ever. In addition to letting fights go too long in his day, training for fights was destructive as well, with guys beating each other up in the gym for weeks ahead of their bouts.
Joe was a great champion with a huge heart. There was no quit in him. Wish we could have seen him and Ali fight before Ali's 3 1/2 year suspension. That's a long time out of the ring. Both would have been in their prime then.
If Ali hadn't of had the enforced layoff, there would have been no need for the amazing three fight trilogy that so captivated the attention of the entire world.
Joe would never be an easy fight for Ali. I'm always amazed that people missed many of Ali's flaws as a boxer and when these flaws were exposed by Frazier, Norton etc. these people pretend his 36 month rest was the cause of his shortcomings. No that's not true, Ali was simply exposed as time went on and the competition grew
I'm one of those people that pretend that Ali's 42-month layoff was the cause of his flaws as a boxer. The reason I pretend to believe that is because I actually believe it is true. The layoff was the great equalizer that allowed lesser fighters to have the opportunity to compete with him. For, as great as Frazier, Norton, and Foreman were; they were lesser fighters when compared to the pre-layoff Ali. I don't believe they would have offered Muhammad any real competition at all if not for the layoff. Things did work out for the best, however. The layoff leads directly to the Fight of the Champions, Super Fight II, the Rumble in the Jungle, the Thrilla in Manila, and all the other great battles of this amazing era. No layoff and Muhammad (flaws or no flaws) walks over all those guys. It would have been far less exciting and Muhammad would most likely not be the world-wide icon he is today.
Are you aware that Ali sparred with novice professional Ken Norton in a boxing gym packed with on lookers in Los Angeles in 1967? Norton manhandled him just as he did twice in 12 rounders during 1973 and again in NYC, during 1976. And how about George Foreman, people forget he retired from boxing for 120 months and then it took him nearly another 90 months to regain the title. George's hiatus makes Ali look like a weekend off from the job.
The public missed the best of Ali during his layoff thats a fact and to come back and fight a guy like joe after a couple of fights shows how great he was. Joe is my second favourite fighter was as tough as they come.
rip Joe a true inspiration born on a farm became Olympic champion than world heavyweight champion
RIP Joe Frazier. The definition of sheer will
a real man and a true legend who gave ali his toughest fights and deserved ali's respect!R.I.P champ
Him and Ali really brought the best out of each other I don’t even care who won they’re both champions in my opinion.
🇺🇸+💪🏾+🥊= Smokin Joe Frazier
True Legend, Rest in Peace
When I think of a boxer with heart , power and just boxing in general I think of him. That’s a MAN!
Joe beat Muhammad in the best heavyweight fight in history in 1971 on March 8 in MSG.
Mr ali, Mr frazier and Duran were my favourite fighters of all time
I am duran
ALI WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE GREATEST WITHOUT THE GREAT JOE FRAZIER.
Really?? So why you joe got destroyed by Forman? Ali didn’t need anyone.
Without Ali would wouldn’t know about joe.
Man! Most of the boxers says "There's no Ali without Frazier and Frazier without Ali.......
Let me preface this by saying that Joe Frazier was a great heavyweight champion and certainly was as tough as they come. But that "legend" that Ali was about to throw in the towel at the end of the 14th round of the Manila fight is a flat out myth that was perpetuated by that propaganda HBO documentary Thila in Manila, but it was total bullshit.
Ali may have have been exhausted by the end of the 14th round of that fight, but no way would he had forfeit the world heavyweight title with just one round to go against an opponent that was for all intents and purposes already defeated. Contrary to the lie told in this "documentary," Ali had a commanding lead going into the last round of that fight and Joe by that time was blind and defenseless. Futch wisely decided to end the bout because he knew that the risk of Joe getting seriously hurt far outweighed the remote likelihood of him KOing Ali, which at that point was what he needed to win that fight. At the end of the 14th round, the ring doctor came in the ring to examine Joe and this too was what prompted Futch to end it.
Even if the rumor about Ali wanting to quit was fake, I personally believe that Frazier could have KO’d Ali because he was so tired.
@@thelevisullivan I seriously doubt that. By the end of the 14th round, Joe was blind .in both eyes and couldn't see what he was trying to hit.
@@thelevisullivan There's no way this could've happened, you're talking about someone who's never been knocked out by anyone in his life even though he had fought one of the strongest boxers that God had ever created, the "more likely" situation in your sentence (which I don't think it would've been likely to happen as Joe was literally blind) is to knock Ali down, which would've done no good, because Ali would've still been far ahead on points.
@@thelevisullivan It is more likely that Joe would've been KOed. He barely survived the 14th round.
You were probably one of the greatest and bravest man in the world , now i hope you relax . I miss you Jo
R.I.P. brother....keep fighting!
Say Ali think Frazier say Frazier think Ali that's how good he was RIP champ
What heart joe had. Absolute legend.
A humble man with a big heart,constant punching power and energy coming up off the ground much like Tyson. Hard to survive one of those powerful hooks as was a trademake of both fighters. Nothing bad to say about any body just lets his powerful hands do his talking,i like that a bit like some of my pacific brothers ... lol. A true legend Mr Frazier R.I.P
The price you pay for immorality is well worth it. Thanks Joe you’re right next to the greatest for all you’ve done.
Such a humble man
I wish there could be a definitive answer if Ali was going to refuse to come out or just thinking about it. Nothing clear has been said just a jumble of rumors
There is no way Dundee would have let him quit. If you watch the end of the 14th, up until when Futch called the fight, Ali was being rubbed down, with his gloves firmly on. Remember, he wanted Dundee to cut his gloves off the the fifth round of the first Liston fight after being blinded. Dundee refused and pushed him back out.
RIP this legendary champion.
thanks ,RIP Joe
Superstar !
Rest easy, champ.
Smokin Joe
My favorite
RIP
Incredible fighter ❤ Joe was a super hero.
That's definition of Class right there....
There wouldn't be an Ali without Frazier
Ali was a world champion with 9 title defenses before he even fought Joe lol
everyone below me is so angry, im just here to watch the video
When Ali came back after the long layoff he lost his legs which was his first line of defense and a big reason why he started getting hit more often. In the 60's when he had his legs he would hit you and his legs would take him out of range before you can return fire. He wasn't as good at doing that in the 70s but still was plenty great enough to be either the champion or number one Contender for the better part of 20 years
good enough to beat Frazier and Foreman among others in the 70,s
@arabion knights Ali may have had bad "habits". as you say, but he was far more talented than any of the others, which enabled him to get away with it. As he got older, his style changed, though it wasn't done overnight. His style evolved over the remainder of his career.
@bricksmma
Frazier would have kicked Toney's ass.
Frazier should be grateful that they stopped the fight, he wouldn't of been standing at the end of round 15 , No way. No how , I'm glad he was still alive for his next birthday.
Ali, foreman and Frazer..these do not come now..in their defeats they were victorious..
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one of the greatest boxer ever. I hope frazier is in heaven, still fighting ali. Rest in Peace my Hero.
Sadly, I don't think Joe remembered the Thrilla in Manilla at the time of this interview. Notice his answers are very generic, and he says he doesn't talk about individual fights. Pretty sure that's because he can't remember them. Frazier and Ali literally killed each other.
Those two really put on a show, they would talk but they got in the ring and gave people their money worthy
will do
Ali and Frazier, this rivalry had everything!
Classy man. A real working-class hero.
I wonder if he had CTE? Probably did...
Huh?
Ufff, what a champ
Amen jesus god
Um... no?
Rip Joe in my eyes you were better than Ali you clearly beat him in the 1st fight and as a pressure fighter I know that took so much from you including losing the sight in one eye, also I think you would have won the 3rd had Eddie futch allowed you to continue, Joe was the definition of a real fighter, unfortunately pressure fighter's don't have long career's because of the punishment
Rocky fish bullshit his eye was for a lot of the fight closed halfway, these days it would have been stopped Frazier eye was closed for the last round and the doctor wouldn't let him out for the last round you really think Ali was anywhere near going down. Doctor choose to stop the fight than let Frazier go through 3 more minutes. Both these fighters were all heart and would never stop until told to
@@azza009 it was Eddie futch and not the doctor
Rocky fish yep stand corrected on that but there was still only one round left and very little vision out of one eye. Ali while tired barely had a scratch. Those are undeniable facts
@@azza009 frazier was blind in his right eye his left eye was closed but his right eye was not, also frazier should of not even been in the ring, frazier was a pressure fighter who was still dangerous and tuff but the that 1st fight nearly killed him frazier was tuffer and worked harder than Ali, and had frazier not been blind in one eye Eddie futch would of let frazier continue but he knew and loved Joe
@@azza009 Ali is my favourite, but he was going to quit before the Joe's corner told the referee to stop the fight, and Ali described the fight as "pure hell" and it was the closest he felt to death
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My fav fighter ever ali best fighter ever another fav cro cop fedor Jon jones Bruce Lee goats
Too bad I flunked speed reading in college. KMA
i'm not american and its hardly to understand his english but he fights so good.
It’s hard for some Americans to understand, his speech was pretty slurred by this point.
@@therealc.t.7085yea, I mean I watched everything there is on joe so I would call myself almost fluent in “Frazier” but I showed friends of mine some of his clips and some started laughing because they couldn’t understand a single word, mind you that I’m no native English speaker
@bricksmma
James Toney the best ever?
What the fuck?!
Obviously you don't know much about boxing
good luck chAMP! will see you later!!
Rest in Peace Sir Joe Frazier.
That's boxing.
Mr. Frazier, Mr. Ali... may you both rest in peace and in brotherly love with each other.
RIP JOE RIP LEGEND.
When was this?
Ron Bradford exactly
Legend
Abrupt ending?
what on earth is this man saying. can't understadn a word
My all time best five boxer, Ali, marciano, myke tyson, jorge foreman, joe frasier
RIP. But Rocky Marciano>>>>
Marciano was really good -- maybe the best of the small heavies, but he couldn't have stayed with Frazier.
I thought Joe was a better boxer than Ali Ali was a good showman which made him so popular
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Joe was a better power puncher but it would be hard to list any other skill that he was better than Ali at.