Transformers Lore: IDW G1 Part 2: Chaos Theory
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- Transformers Lore: IDW G1 Part 2: Chaos Theory
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End Song: "Where the Hood At?" by DMX (Censored Version)
This video covers portions of The Transformers #22-23
Now I want to see the Alternate Universe where Megatron and Orion Pax fought side-by-side to liberate Cybertron and build a new future.
You mean the Functionist Universe?
Did that get its own comic? I thought that Megatron's storyline didn't end when the Lost Lighters got back to their own universe. I assumed from the last panel that he was speaking to Functionist universe Optimus.
@@chucheeness7817it’s implied that it happened when Megatron eventually returned to his own universe. But sadly it never got its own comic.
Oh my god that line in dark cybertron where he said he technically started the whole war... he wasn't kidding he did whirl is single handedly (or clawfully) started the whole whole between autobots and decepticons
So Whirl is pretty much the person who pushed Megatron to abandon his pacifist ways which led to the start of war. Nice one, dude.
It's sad that deep down Megatron and Optimus want the same thing... Freedom.
That's one of the things that made Prime such a great series, the two were great friends before the war, until Orion was made into Optimus. Ironically, that decision was made at a meeting Orion engineered so that Megatronus could give his own speech on why he should be made Prime, something that Orion agreed with. Megatronus felt that Orion had betrayed him, set the whole thing up to make a fool of him and steal his position, and that's what caused the rift between them.
Yeah, but weren't the views that Megatron expressed essentially oppression and rule with an iron fist? And didn't he DEMAND the Matrix? As smart as Megatron undeniably is, you'd think he woulda picked up on that, on how his views obviously weren't what Orion originally thought they were.
His original views were freedom. He told Orion that his plans were peaceful, and that some of his people used violence, while in fact his plan was for violent revolution, though that was due to him growing up as a gladiator, and having the mindset that combat is the only way to fix anything. However, as the war went on, he gradually morphed into an oppressive tyrant. He did basically demand to be made a prime though. Not quite in so many words, but he did strongly imply that the only way that society could be fixed without a violent uprising is if he were a prime, and could use his authority as a prime to make it a smooth transition. He didn't demand the matrix, but only because at the time, no one knew exactly where it was. Optimus' first task AS a prime was to locate the matrix. Back in those days, primes didn't necessarily have the matrix. Having it is one of the things that made Optimus special. I also read somewhere that, in the aligned universe, Optimus was one of the original primes, who had his memory erased and had himself reformatted as Orion Pax so that he could experience life as a normal cybertronian, but that's a whole other story entirely.
TheKyrix82 PLEASE tell me you're not implying that the Cybertron games (WFC/FoC) are connected to Prime! So many plot holes, ie Grimlock and Sideswipe being totally different characters in RiD 2015 and the games. Still I got your point, and I was referring to the Prime origins, not the comics just to be clear
I'm not implying it, I'm stating it as a fact. The aligned universe consists of Exile and Exodus (the books), War For Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron (The games), Prime and Robots in Disguise (the shows). Plot holes aside, the are the same universe.
I have not been into transformers since I was a kid and this new story line has gotten me back into it. It is pretty ,interesting. Also thanks for the cool vids dude helps when catching up in the series.
So basically millions of years of warfare can be attributed to Whirl being an asshole.
I'm blind, and therefore can not really enjoy comics. Thank you for these, I'm hooked.
Thank you for the comment! Glad to help spread the word of Transformers.
I guess you had someone else type this then?
@@MRj0hnny5 That, or (s)he used a text-to-speech function of some kind.
Really enjoying these overviews of the IDW continuity! Keep up the good work!
Imagine Peter Cullen voicing that speech in a movie?
I need these comics man, so thank you for being the one to bring it to me.😀
Coree, you really should read ALL HAIL MEGATRON. You can get a cheap paperback version from Amazon.
Holy s*it this is like V for Vendetta...
But with ROBOTS! (cue electric guitar rift)
at 1:09 is that kaon from the djd it looks like him to me i could be wrong though
No, thats actually a time-travelling Rung. Yeah, weird.
Holy shit
I would love to see you do a video on the full story. Keep up the good work my dude!!!!
First I want to say that I love all your lore videos but this one is my favorite one mostly due to the fact I love this history of Megatron and Optimus and I love the artwork at the end of the video
I gotta say, I'm a big Transformer fan since the '80's. Lookin' at ur videos n listenin' to the stories is very intriguing"! Yeah, I used to read IDW's comics on G1 Transformers, some years back but now I want to get back into it! Thank u, PrimusPrime 22 for showin' us fans, that rich history of the Transformers exist! This is somethin'' Bay should b taken notes on. Also, if ur liokin' for voice over, I can do Megatron n Starscream pretty well. Let me know. I'll subscribe to ur channel; once again, keep up the good work, man!
Dude, thank you so much for this, I'm writing a story and I'm doing research for the IDW universe for a base, I plan on mention some of the things, such as the cyclopses, shockwave and the some of the other things that happens before the war, the thing is I need to know is this, did the autobots and decepticons of the IDW universe (specifically this version of it) go to earth?
And if so, what was the Earth year when they arrived? If you do reply, then please thank you for your kindness.
Sorry for the late reply, I would have replied sooner if TH-cam notified me.
Yes, they went to Earth on many separate occasions. The first large scale undercover operations on Earth began in 2003. The Autobots left Earth in 2006. The Decepticons conquered Earth in 2007. The Autobots returned to Earth and liberated it in 2008 and the Transformers would remain there until 2011. In 2015, the Autobots and Decepticons returned again. That being said, there were several times Cybertronians arrived on Earth before 2003 at different points including the Ice Age and 1984.
Now I want to buy the WHOLE SERIES. So that's why a lot loved IDW
This is amazing. I never got into the IDW continuity, but now I'm seriously thinking about it.
A sour start for two bots who knew best
damn balls on Orion Pax
I've been reading about Karl Marx and I've found many parallels with Megatron. Both were young, idealistic writers who diagnosed the problems in their societies. With the help of an older friend (Friedrich Engels and Terminus respectively), they had their works published and they became the unofficial founders of their movements (communists and Decepticons). Their words became the cornerstone of other large movements (the Russian Revolution and the Decepticon activists) but neither one truly knew how to bring about change.
Great job primusprime22 i love your videos
Is last panel a berserk reference?
those who make peaceful revolution impossible. make violent revolution inevitable
this was an awesome video good job
p.s. perfect outro
This is awesome!!!
please make more of this!!
sounds like America now
WHIRL U DOOMED US ALL
Really good please do more
So optimus was a cop?
so you're telling me that optimus was agnostic before becoming a prime....
that is so weird
I find it odd that Optimus was Agnostic as I am as well .
Coree Russell, Yes of course they came to Earth. When? The modern era.
Wow. I just got done watching all of your Transformer videos. I thought I was a Transformers history buff, but you sir, have put me to shame. I grew up watching the G1 80's cartoon, then some of Energon, the Bay Movies, then Prime, Animated, and most recently, I decided to watch Beast Wars and Beast Machines. I played all of the games, but I never decided to read any of the Comics or Novels of Transformers. Thank you for making this series of short videos to help people, like myself, get caught up on all of the Transformers lore that we were too lazy to read up on, lol.
Now I have one question: Where does Prime's trailer go when he transforms? (I heard so many theories and supposed 'facts', but I am not sure. Maybe the pocket dimension one...?)
I have one suggestion for your channel though. You should probably get a new mic and work on the voice over audio quality. I can suggest some new mics and EQ settings if you want. Other than that, the rest of the channel is amazing!
DECEPTICONS FOREVER!
Thanks a lot!
In the G1 cartoon universes, Prime's trailer is made of an alloy called "disappearium." This comes from the commentary on Transformers: The Movie where Flint Dille made it up on the spot so it can be taken with a grain of salt, but it does come from a semi-canon source none the less.
According to an early G1 toy catalog, Prime's Trailer would be teleported back to the base via special signal, though toy catalogs are not often a strong source of canon.
The theory that he stores it in subspace is just a theory, but it is very plausible as often Transformers will store things in a subspace pocket. Swindle from Animated had one, and most characters from Transformers: Cybertron stored their Cyber Keys in a subspace pocket.
It should be noted that Transformers Animated Optimus Prime was asked this question, and even he didn't know.
As for mics, I have my eye on the Blue Snowball. But I don't know how well that will help seeing as by my family's request, I can't make any more videos. But thank you very much.
primusprime22 Wow, thanks. From what I hear, the Blue Snowball is a decent mic. I started my channel with an Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB. Also, if you don't mind me asking, why is your family against you making videos?
Man no mention of who that senator who repaired Orion was. Can't wait to see what people will think of his identity.
Ryan Bolen It's a shocker
Senator Alpha Trion?
@@kalajel
SPOILERS
It’s Shockwave
good stuff!
those are good questions
So prime does have a mouth
IDW Transformers is canon to g1?
somebody should start cybertronian Cafe
where can I find this comics
www.amazon.com/Transformers-Vol-5-Chaos-Theory/dp/1613770901
+primusprime22 ok and thank you
I blame whirl for the great war
O Guar plains
O god poor rung😏
Why couldn't the movie follow *this* plot!!!!!!
Wellp, time for another assassination.
Watch out Micheal Bay.
This is for Leonardo.