Private servers still exist man. Warmane has a legit WotLK and recently launched BC realm with 1x rates all around and buffed raids. The other servers they host as pretty garbage but the legit servers are solid.
sanke trap was actually also good in pvp when a melee was near the hunter and the hunter dind't have any escape, you could set a snake trap and fain death, when the enemy didn't have a target macro, it was hard to target the hunter with switch target button, so the hunter had a few seconds to get away. was a nice little trick back in the days.
Fun vid, man! Really took me down memory lane, especially now with the prospect of TBC Classic in the foreseeable future. Snake trap actually did have an additional use in PvP and some PvE, as it was the ideal trap to use against casters in some situations. Usually when you or your team had them dotted up and were ready to kill. Slowing their casting speed with all those snakes proved pretty effective. I always speced into traps, so they had 30% more snakes with better poisons and an immobilizing effect. I think it was a smart trap, and a total waste for them to get rid of in retail. They really should bring it back with all the new stings attached to it. Additionally, the dot damage from immolation was actually okay when stacked your other dots, I just found that Survival purists required a different set of equipment and strategy to make it work.
Ice trap with trap mastery was incredible. Back in the talent tree days anyways. Every tick of the slowing effect had a good chance of rooting the target. It was mass entanglement before mass entanglement was a thing.
RIP MM/BM traps. ...can someone explain the class fantasy that would require a melee hunter to throw traps at people instead of one who fights at a ranged? :P
so you're saying throwin your trap 40 yards away wont break it or mess it up? settin up a trap requires setting it up... melee range. also u get freezing arrow as marksman. which fits class fantasy too... u shoot an arrow with frost magic or w/e
5x3x1x5 ...I'm saying what about a melee hunter would warrant throwing traps at people. I feel like you didn't even read my comment. Also freezing arrow basically makes MM hunters worse mages - since it's a CD polymorph that can be still interrupted. Also I would argue that traps would still make more sense for the hunter "class fantasy."
Nick Marshman a Cd aoe poly... is worse than mages.. also they were always worse. ranged or not. what class fantasy allows you to throw fully functioning traps from a bow?? explain that to me..
5x3x1x5 I never said trap launcher had to stay a thing? Considering how trap launcher was added to fill a niche hunters needed not a class fantasy pov I would be fine having traps without the launcher. And yes a CD AoE poly is worse than mages polymorph. If you have beta like I do then you would know the aoe is garbage, and if you have any semblance of arena knowledge you should be able to grasp that being able to double poly a potential trinket or cleanse is a great thing. Hunter's can only hope they don't have a cleanse or a trinket. Anyway traps are just one thing - hunters in general in beta are weak and weird creatures. BM does a ton of damage but has no cc to compensate - MM is horrible when forced to move (which is always) and survival has a hard time surviving. Fun times :P
I been playing a hunter alt since late 2005 and some of these things I completely forgot about especially the traps not being able to be placed in combat.
In vanilla frost trap could proc the root infinitely between patch 1.7 and 1.9 I think. Not sure but I used it a ton in av for slowing horse. Was awesome
Scatter trapping was a thing during BC already tho... without freezing arrow. Heck, it was a thing as soon as you got both of them and could use traps in combat or FD in vanilla :P
Lol honestly I don't exactly recall too much it's been so long. I think it simply immobilized the person who hit it but they could still attack and what not. So like a less useful freezing trap lol. Man now imma go Google it to make sure I'm not going crazy and making stuff up haha Edit: Okay I just checked. Bear trap definitely was a planned Wotlk new trap for hunters. It rooted the opponent and caused bleed damage. It was scrapped and given to NPCs by launch though
I didn't know about the frost arrow thing because I didn't play a hunter until Mists of Pandaria. I found the class to be decent, and I used my Legion level 100 boost on my hunter. I don't understand why the class is so popular though.
Lol, I'll never forget desperately trying to Feign Death out of combat in Vanilla in BGs to get a trap off... good times? Unrelated but also stacking Int Mail gear for mana in BC. Weird times.
" Unrelated but also stacking Int Mail gear for mana in BC. Weird times." i get its a joke but still : fuck you for rolling on my +int + mana regen + healing necklace
The point of Immolation Trap was not to generate massive damage, but to actually generate damage slowly in order to regulate threat while soloing. The idea was to generate damage in small enough increments that you didn't pull mobs away from the pet. Snake Trap was also a distraction in PvP. The multiple snakes meant that an opponent would have to target cycle through all of the snakes in order to target the Hunter.
Revival but there were macros to target the hunter without tabbing through the snakes. So the strategy works well in bgs but not arena. The caster knockback was wild though
I didn't even know about the Ice Trap proc of Lock and Load, nor the effectively of using Explosive Trap instead of Black Arrow, and my Hunter has always been Survival! I feel like even more of a noob than I already am!
Hey Hirumaredx how do I upload videos cus I post one In that has public so my friends can see it then when I look up my SoulsBorne Gaming chanell but it comes up with someone else?
I don't play WoW now because of the hunter trap changes. I was proud to have the skill to freeze trap, feign death in a dungeon, then retrap, sometimes CC'ing up to 3 mobs if lucky. They took a lot of hunter abilities away and now a good tank can just aggro everything and dps just kills it all without these special abilities and it's mind of mindless and boring.
Scatter trap, ugh. Scatter, trap, into an explosive trap over a cliff? Good times. I do like that they made moving penance, which I believe was a glyph, into baseline. That's another thing they baked in like the focus management.
In mop . Scatter trapping was around and didn't share a cd . But if you trap then use wyvern sting it makes wyvern 3 sec instead of 5 . Vice versa serpent was 5 and trap would be 4 sec. I still play mop on private servers . Pvp is great there . :)
Not sure if you mentioned it and I just missed it, but Explosive Trap has been used quite a lot in PvP now with the glyph that makes it knock away enemies. Awesome vid btw. ^^
Old video just first time seeing it. When I played I saw the opposing hunters traps. Traps should not be seen by the opposing faction, unless you're a rogue. Kind of defeats the trap / makes it useless if its seen.
Not entirely, but I think they're getting rid of the major glyphs and you have to buy a new glyph every time you want to make a change instead of learning them permanently.
hehehehe...druids roots would break due to their own DoT. It was a joke at best. That being said, this is a very nice video thank you for uploading. A hunter was epic fun in AB, Frost trap and snake trap where the shit :)
It makes me want legacy servers even more. I may have to pull mobs on to my traps again, but having traps is a main charicterisic of the class. To me, hunters are a ranged pet class with traps, and I want ONE pet, not a shit storm of pets that I have to give up my traps for.
Primalxbeast Personally i don't want Legacy servers. I'm not against the idea but i think this is a really bad moment in time to implement them, i think blizzard should focus on the current/future expansions to make it better and bring back some of the features that we have in the past, Legacy servers will divide the community even more is not a good idea. Knowing all this i completely agree with you about hunters for me, they ruined the class. I remember dungeons back in BC.. i love cc and hunters were kings of cc... now we only have one talented option if we want to play like that. I hate the new hunter design overall. Survival is just terrible.
Velkhan There really isn't any community right now, and I don't think the people who like retail would be willing to put up with all of the inconveniences of vanilla WoW. WoW has changed so much that retail and vanilla are 2 different games at this point and would have different audiences with some overlap. They couldn't do it soon because of the new expansion and they'd need to work out some technical issues, but it would be nice to eventually have the option for people who like the old game style and don't want to play on private servers. And I really really really don't want to lose my traps. >:-(
omg u thought u weren't gonna mention the pvp flagging bug. my friend was a hunter and we got some dude's pvp flag to come on and killed him. it was hilarious 😂😂
I played hunter for long time. Its my favorite class. I never really like what the developers did with it. Seriously specializations were so stupid all the time. First of all, only BM should have had pet. MM should have been classic ranged hero with shots from a far and survival should have been stings, poisons and traps. I never liked playing with pets. I fucking hated it. Especially in PVP. Also focus should have been made since vanilla. After all hunter pets had focus so it should have been obvious that hunters should also be wiyh focus. I mean what does hunter need mana for? Seriously the guys who designed and developed hunter class through all expansions are just retarded. All other classes were good, gear sets were nice and every other spec felt different. Only hunters had shity gear sets that had no connection with the class or lore of hunters. All talent trees felt the same with few tweaks. This is why i lost love for wow. Some classes are just not developed good.
Northern Explorer? On a hunter character? Man that makes me have horrifying flashbacks. Should be ashamed of yourself for that loque pelt you had to get to get that chieve.
Hiru that type of guy to make a 18 minute video about traps in wow
and there are We: who's watching it =P
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+Void Shrine Chiks with dicks I believe
I remember when scare beast could fear Druids while they are in a shapeshift
lol calm down you noodle fuck
Private servers still exist man. Warmane has a legit WotLK and recently launched BC realm with 1x rates all around and buffed raids. The other servers they host as pretty garbage but the legit servers are solid.
They removed it because it wasn't fair to druids lol. People complained too much
Lock'n'load, the reason why stuck with survival as a raid spec for quite some time
You should do a top 10 hardest titles to get
vis arden first complete raid titles
vis arden gladiator
matt ?XD
sanke trap was actually also good in pvp when a melee was near the hunter and the hunter dind't have any escape, you could set a snake trap and fain death, when the enemy didn't have a target macro, it was hard to target the hunter with switch target button, so the hunter had a few seconds to get away.
was a nice little trick back in the days.
History of series was pretty good, can't wait to see your old ones be redone. Good shid mang
Sometimes in battlegrounds I'd use freezing trap on a opponent then dance in front of them for the whole minute they're stuck
Fun vid, man! Really took me down memory lane, especially now with the prospect of TBC Classic in the foreseeable future. Snake trap actually did have an additional use in PvP and some PvE, as it was the ideal trap to use against casters in some situations. Usually when you or your team had them dotted up and were ready to kill. Slowing their casting speed with all those snakes proved pretty effective. I always speced into traps, so they had 30% more snakes with better poisons and an immobilizing effect. I think it was a smart trap, and a total waste for them to get rid of in retail. They really should bring it back with all the new stings attached to it. Additionally, the dot damage from immolation was actually okay when stacked your other dots, I just found that Survival purists required a different set of equipment and strategy to make it work.
Ice trap with trap mastery was incredible. Back in the talent tree days anyways. Every tick of the slowing effect had a good chance of rooting the target. It was mass entanglement before mass entanglement was a thing.
One thing you forgot about snake trap in PvP. The snakes can soak up aoes like Psychic Scream.
RIP MM/BM traps.
...can someone explain the class fantasy that would require a melee hunter to throw traps at people instead of one who fights at a ranged? :P
so you're saying throwin your trap 40 yards away wont break it or mess it up? settin up a trap requires setting it up... melee range. also u get freezing arrow as marksman. which fits class fantasy too... u shoot an arrow with frost magic or w/e
5x3x1x5 ...I'm saying what about a melee hunter would warrant throwing traps at people. I feel like you didn't even read my comment.
Also freezing arrow basically makes MM hunters worse mages - since it's a CD polymorph that can be still interrupted. Also I would argue that traps would still make more sense for the hunter "class fantasy."
Nick Marshman a Cd aoe poly... is worse than mages.. also they were always worse. ranged or not. what class fantasy allows you to throw fully functioning traps from a bow?? explain that to me..
5x3x1x5 I never said trap launcher had to stay a thing? Considering how trap launcher was added to fill a niche hunters needed not a class fantasy pov I would be fine having traps without the launcher.
And yes a CD AoE poly is worse than mages polymorph. If you have beta like I do then you would know the aoe is garbage, and if you have any semblance of arena knowledge you should be able to grasp that being able to double poly a potential trinket or cleanse is a great thing. Hunter's can only hope they don't have a cleanse or a trinket.
Anyway traps are just one thing - hunters in general in beta are weak and weird creatures. BM does a ton of damage but has no cc to compensate - MM is horrible when forced to move (which is always) and survival has a hard time surviving. Fun times :P
I been playing a hunter alt since late 2005 and some of these things I completely forgot about especially the traps not being able to be placed in combat.
I can remember ambushing low level allies on the Rachet pier with the snake trap gimmick. What sweet revenge for all those Cross roads raids.
The whole time I watch your videos I listen to what you say, but stare at the action bar clutter lol
In vanilla frost trap could proc the root infinitely between patch 1.7 and 1.9 I think. Not sure but I used it a ton in av for slowing horse. Was awesome
ur lil drawing animation is so fucking cute (*_*)
Scatter trapping was a thing during BC already tho... without freezing arrow. Heck, it was a thing as soon as you got both of them and could use traps in combat or FD in vanilla :P
wow a 18 min video by hiru a rare honour xD
Noticing that the WotLK Damage numbers are way more attractive than the ones we have today.
you're pretty cool! I never got to play wow until the end of WoD so I never got to experience any of this it's very interesting
If I remember correctly during PTR for wotlk there was a bear trap. But it was taken out by the time the expansion came out
For real? What did it do? :)
Lol honestly I don't exactly recall too much it's been so long. I think it simply immobilized the person who hit it but they could still attack and what not. So like a less useful freezing trap lol. Man now imma go Google it to make sure I'm not going crazy and making stuff up haha
Edit: Okay I just checked. Bear trap definitely was a planned Wotlk new trap for hunters. It rooted the opponent and caused bleed damage. It was scrapped and given to NPCs by launch though
Congrats on 60k!!
Yeah the priest set bonus that let you move while using Penance was made baseline, THANK THE LIGHT.
I miss snake trap, it was shit but it was fun to use cause of how it looked
he said traps and i got all excited...
Did he ever make the video on set bonuse into baseline?
problem with roots is that every dungeon was inside other than zul'farrak which is pretty much my fav dungeon, and that's probably why lol
question wat is the name of the addons u use to see the heal bar and the doots of the enemys?
I didn't know about the frost arrow thing because I didn't play a hunter until Mists of Pandaria. I found the class to be decent, and I used my Legion level 100 boost on my hunter. I don't understand why the class is so popular though.
Lol, I'll never forget desperately trying to Feign Death out of combat in Vanilla in BGs to get a trap off... good times?
Unrelated but also stacking Int Mail gear for mana in BC. Weird times.
" Unrelated but also stacking Int Mail gear for mana in BC. Weird times."
i get its a joke but still :
fuck you for rolling on my +int + mana regen + healing necklace
Please do the 2 set bonus video!!
The point of Immolation Trap was not to generate massive damage, but to actually generate damage slowly in order to regulate threat while soloing. The idea was to generate damage in small enough increments that you didn't pull mobs away from the pet.
Snake Trap was also a distraction in PvP. The multiple snakes meant that an opponent would have to target cycle through all of the snakes in order to target the Hunter.
Revival but there were macros to target the hunter without tabbing through the snakes. So the strategy works well in bgs but not arena. The caster knockback was wild though
hey man :D can you tell me if Marksmanship hunter uses pet´s or not?
I'm very happy we're getting traps back still miss distract shot :)
Bruh, in TBC Snake Trap used to put people into pvp just by setting it on them. Those made some hilarious ganks
God I miss traps specifically when they existed, could be launched and armed right away. Just found it fun to do
the music at the end is always sad I love it
what is it called I want it.
do u know?
I didn't even know about the Ice Trap proc of Lock and Load, nor the effectively of using Explosive Trap instead of Black Arrow, and my Hunter has always been Survival! I feel like even more of a noob than I already am!
18 minutes!!!! I'm so happy :)
Hey Hirumaredx how do I upload videos cus I post one In that has public so my friends can see it then when I look up my SoulsBorne Gaming chanell but it comes up with someone else?
Trap queen. I'm like hey what's up hello...
what about the goldshire traps ?
you should consider adding some gameplay videos
Is Hidetoshi considered already a "classic" trap?
Um,i play wow for 3 year,but i don't get what CC means...what that means? :D
crowd control
Do the baseline from set bonuses video.
I don't play WoW now because of the hunter trap changes. I was proud to have the skill to freeze trap, feign death in a dungeon, then retrap, sometimes CC'ing up to 3 mobs if lucky. They took a lot of hunter abilities away and now a good tank can just aggro everything and dps just kills it all without these special abilities and it's mind of mindless and boring.
Scatter trap, ugh. Scatter, trap, into an explosive trap over a cliff? Good times. I do like that they made moving penance, which I believe was a glyph, into baseline. That's another thing they baked in like the focus management.
Wait why are they removing glyphs in legion?
lol calm down you noodle fuck
are you playing on any private servers currently?
How do you make a video about flags and don't mention capture the flag
In mop . Scatter trapping was around and didn't share a cd . But if you trap then use wyvern sting it makes wyvern 3 sec instead of 5 . Vice versa serpent was 5 and trap would be 4 sec. I still play mop on private servers . Pvp is great there . :)
I don't know why but I luv you're voice
why use snake trap? Cause it looked fuckign awesome!
Aaaaaaaand its gone. All gone. No more traps unless you are survival.
For scattershot you can hand of sacrifice it
why are you talking about running into mobs? Mobs always run after you.
I thoroughly enjoy your shitty drawings, hope you don't completely abandon them, just make them for special occasions.
can u give my a link to your pet gambeling site?
I remember back in wod when I started
*places snake trap*
Deals 3 damage
WTF BLIZZARD!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
8:05 bro explosive trap glyph was litteral bis for Mm+Survival hunter .... all hunter without were dogshit
Not sure if you mentioned it and I just missed it, but Explosive Trap has been used quite a lot in PvP now with the glyph that makes it knock away enemies. Awesome vid btw. ^^
Main a hunter from vanilla to this day, except legion 🤫 but love the hunter vids 👌
hideyoshi is dope yo
Old video just first time seeing it. When I played I saw the opposing hunters traps. Traps should not be seen by the opposing faction, unless you're a rogue. Kind of defeats the trap / makes it useless if its seen.
I miss the drawings.
scatter trap was legit in MoP, no shared cd or anything.
Hunters are the most fun class, you cant beat them honestly
the only reason to be survivalist in vanilla was to freeze trap 3 mobs at once
I wish Blizzard would give me back The old Survival.
I had the feign death trap macro
what? they're removing glyphs ?
Not entirely, but I think they're getting rid of the major glyphs and you have to buy a new glyph every time you want to make a change instead of learning them permanently.
The glyph tab is gone in legion beta from the last time i remember
Liam Fanning The glyphs will be applied directly to the ability, but there will only be a few of them and they're only cosmetic.
The last time I came this early my Mom got pregnant with my sister!
Great video :)
this hunter doing less DPS than my DK was in Cata.
hehehehe...druids roots would break due to their own DoT. It was a joke at best. That being said, this is a very nice video thank you for uploading. A hunter was epic fun in AB, Frost trap and snake trap where the shit :)
what? why didnt you title wow
I miss scatter trap!
i loved the ms paint pictures
dude, they are AWESOME!
"no playing around it" yeh just death it like most of good disc did
holy fuck i'm early
keep up the good videos m8
2:30 wait wat
New survival hunters are awesome already rekt every single melee class on 1v1
Dots started criting in bc
maybe with special talents or gear. But not baseline
hirumaredx yeah I just checked one of my old kill vids. You are correct.
hirumaredx th-cam.com/video/NZ_4j_fPUyw/w-d-xo.html I killed illidan as a shadow priest. If you're interested
What do you mean "fake voice"?
i guess the voice u choose to tell a exciting Story about smth. with a bit creepy rusty deep or whatever touch to ur original voice
***** I went back and watched some super old videos and it didn't really sound different to me....oh well haha
good vid.
10k views, 0 dislikes... something is fishy here.....
that n64 graphics 🙆🙆🙆
Yay!
301 club hype
The removal of traps destroyed the hunter class for me.
(don't tell me about survival in legion because is shit)
It makes me want legacy servers even more. I may have to pull mobs on to my traps again, but having traps is a main charicterisic of the class. To me, hunters are a ranged pet class with traps, and I want ONE pet, not a shit storm of pets that I have to give up my traps for.
Primalxbeast Personally i don't want Legacy servers. I'm not against the idea but i think this is a really bad moment in time to implement them, i think blizzard should focus on the current/future expansions to make it better and bring back some of the features that we have in the past, Legacy servers will divide the community even more is not a good idea. Knowing all this i completely agree with you about hunters for me, they ruined the class. I remember dungeons back in BC.. i love cc and hunters were kings of cc... now we only have one talented option if we want to play like that. I hate the new hunter design overall. Survival is just terrible.
Velkhan There really isn't any community right now, and I don't think the people who like retail would be willing to put up with all of the inconveniences of vanilla WoW. WoW has changed so much that retail and vanilla are 2 different games at this point and would have different audiences with some overlap. They couldn't do it soon because of the new expansion and they'd need to work out some technical issues, but it would be nice to eventually have the option for people who like the old game style and don't want to play on private servers. And I really really really don't want to lose my traps. >:-(
ay hiru bby
neat
woah I'm 1 hour late. is there a shitty overused joke for that? ;)
Wei Zhao about as funny as everyone else who makes early jokes and stuff lul
back in the day i got bit (no pun intended) by the Snake Trap bug
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omg u thought u weren't gonna mention the pvp flagging bug. my friend was a hunter and we got some dude's pvp flag to come on and killed him. it was hilarious 😂😂
I played hunter for long time. Its my favorite class. I never really like what the developers did with it. Seriously specializations were so stupid all the time. First of all, only BM should have had pet. MM should have been classic ranged hero with shots from a far and survival should have been stings, poisons and traps. I never liked playing with pets. I fucking hated it. Especially in PVP. Also focus should have been made since vanilla. After all hunter pets had focus so it should have been obvious that hunters should also be wiyh focus. I mean what does hunter need mana for? Seriously the guys who designed and developed hunter class through all expansions are just retarded. All other classes were good, gear sets were nice and every other spec felt different. Only hunters had shity gear sets that had no connection with the class or lore of hunters. All talent trees felt the same with few tweaks. This is why i lost love for wow. Some classes are just not developed good.
vasilije94 you obviously need or needed to git gut
Northern Explorer? On a hunter character? Man that makes me have horrifying flashbacks. Should be ashamed of yourself for that loque pelt you had to get to get that chieve.
:O