Hi guys, many many thanks for professionality you've got in this test. I'm a gospel singer and you helped me to understand a lot of things about mics. Also compliments for your voice!
Thanks for doing this. I have a general idea of what I want my mics to sound like, and this definitely helps. I found someone selling the RE410's sibling, the RE510, and ended up trying it. I wish there was a better place around here to try out mics like that.
Hi Rey! Both of your choices are excellent for tenor voices in general. I do recommend you to test both of them before buying since the S1 has a strong presence lift around 5kHz which may give some voices a very harsh sound with more than pronounced S-T sounds. For most voices its fantastic. The Re410 doesn't have that kind of boost and would generally appear with a slightly warmer sound yet with a nice presence. Try them out! The AKG mics are really popular and generally good. Since we had to limit ourselves to 10 microphones we simply didn't had the time to test them out. Also, in a possible future test it would be nice to give the Shure condensers a try against the neumann and EV mice. Best regards, Nicklas Sellman, Avocalypse
Thank you for sharing your big test. But I really expexted to hear something from the final results in the video. Everything I heard came from the built in mics from the camcorder.
I did regret my buying rode m2 after having watched this review... I don't think the results are fair. But to me, SENNHEISER is one of the best. It is very rich and clear.
For being the same cost as a run-of-the-mill SM58 beta, the M2 punches incredibly above its' weight. You'd have to spend a whopping $600 more for the Electrovoice or Niemen mics, or supply 6 singers with Rode M2s and it would still all be totally subjective.
The whole point of the test was to test how the microphones sounded in a live setting. Therefor we used the equipment we use for live performance. There were obvious differences between the different microphones in this setup. Perhaps the result would have been different if the listening test had been done using studio equipment, but that would have been irrelevant in this case.
Avocalypse vokalgrupp I don't think that would be irrelevant. You are giving results on mic quality. You should have used a quality speaker setup to listen to them. The behringers will extremely color the sound in a bad way. A higher quality mic can sound like crap through those speakers. The true quality of the mic will not be reproduced. Therefore your results will only be valid for people using behringer b215s. And those using b215s would probably never own a single one of these mics other than the 58. Fwiw as a vocal group you need a live speaker update.
thanks for the great review. I'm leaning toward the S1 or the re410 for myself a 2nd tenor... I'm wondering if you found the AKG's didn't perform well because you didn't mention them. they seem to be popular these days thanks for the advice 👍
Do you get paid bei RØDE or is this an advertisement? (btw. I like RØDE, use an NT1000 in my homestudio, but this review seems a little biased, to say the least)
hi guys, first thing, thank you very much for the video! i'm pleased. I'm from brazil, and starting my career, going to buy my first condenser live microphone, and I am in doubt about two mics, the at2010 and the rode m2. I would like to ask you guys, what of this two you would choice. And whose of them would have more gain before feedback, in live situations. Thank you very much guys! And sorry for the bad english. Greetings from Brazil.
Hey. I have a question: What kind of microphone was using a lector in this film? Because of I'm looking for the microphone as a master of ceremonies. Thanks in advance for the reply.
Great work, thank you so much ! I'm looking for a microphone for all sorts of vocalists, which doesn't sound thin or harsh once you back off from it. The KMS105 and M2's responses doesn't suggest any of this high mid (2.5 - 5kHz is the bothersome area usually) resonance design. The S1 does, with a slightly lesser that average boost at 4kHz. The KMS105 is out of my price range, do you remember any impressions from the M2 in that regard?
Hi Adam! Thank you for your response. It took us several month to perform this shootout so I do remember much from it. The M2 is probably the best microphone in the budget range but be aware... It didn't suit all of our members in Avocalypse ( actually it really performed bad on 2 singers ). If I'd been you I would have gone for EV RE410 or try the RE510 microphone which is selling around 250 dollars and seem to be good for all type of singers. I'm pretty sure you'll be satisfied and surprised how well these microphones perform. Hope you'll be happy with this answer
Nicklas Sellman Hi Nicklas, Did you get any input from the live sound engineers about these mics, and how easy they were to work with technically, and how easy they were to fit into the mix? I'm looking for a versatile mic with expected results to replace the sm58, that I can use as default with any singer with confidence. That's even more of an issue with condensers, as well as the dynamics I've tried to replace the sm58 with. The sm58 sounds good+ on any sound system, with any singer, has good feedback rejection for a loud band. Any input is appreciated, thanks!
Hi man, i'm from brazil! Your video it's very great!! But there is a mic that no one speaks about and i sing today in one, looks like very great. Do you know something about the SUPERLUX S125??
Any one of these microphones are within that special 5% of superior fidelity, it's hard to wrong. But all things considered, the Rode look like the real winners as they are priced in the realm of the real world and punch considerably higher than their price would suggest. You literary cannot make a bad decision other than a financially bad decision amongst this lot
You know, you had me until you put the SM58 ahead of the Neumann. I've used both extensively, and as a singer there's absolutely no comparison. The SM58 is a piece of junk next to the velvet experience of singing into a KMS 105. You've just lost all credibility. Adios.
Microphones are all Over priced! This is Old technology..Patened in 60's ,70s & 80's..So the patens ran out about 15 -25 years ago! The Chinese (Or anybody) can reproduce any of them (Exactly) for about $0.50 of metal ,$0.50 in plastic and maybe a $4.00 magnet (For the dynamics)..... So they would double their money at $10. (Condensers should be cheaper) {Except the button mics have about 10 cents worth of material.}
The Neumann KMS105 microphone will always come out ahead. These are just wonderful microphones, as are the RE Series from Electrovoice.
Excellent test--this remains one of the best mic comparisons on YT!
I often come back to these shootouts..they are superb, prioffessional and incredibly helpful
Hi guys, many many thanks for professionality you've got in this test. I'm a gospel singer and you helped me to understand a lot of things about mics. Also compliments for your voice!
Thanks for doing this. I have a general idea of what I want my mics to sound like, and this definitely helps. I found someone selling the RE410's sibling, the RE510, and ended up trying it. I wish there was a better place around here to try out mics like that.
Hi Rey!
Both of your choices are excellent for tenor voices in general. I do recommend you to test both of them before buying since the S1 has a strong presence lift around 5kHz which may give some voices a very harsh sound with more than pronounced S-T sounds. For most voices its fantastic. The Re410 doesn't have that kind of boost and would generally appear with a slightly warmer sound yet with a nice presence. Try them out! The AKG mics are really popular and generally good. Since we had to limit ourselves to 10 microphones we simply didn't had the time to test them out. Also, in a possible future test it would be nice to give the Shure condensers a try against the neumann and EV mice.
Best regards, Nicklas Sellman, Avocalypse
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Thank you for sharing your big test. But I really expexted to hear something from the final results in the video. Everything I heard came from the built in mics from the camcorder.
well i couldn't even tell when the microphones were changing so i guess welp. to each their own.
Very informative. Thanks…
Av got the m2 but senni e865 wipes the floor with it, are you working for rode by any chance, obviously you have something against sennheisser mics
I did regret my buying rode m2 after having watched this review... I don't think the results are fair. But to me, SENNHEISER is one of the best. It is very rich and clear.
For being the same cost as a run-of-the-mill SM58 beta, the M2 punches incredibly above its' weight. You'd have to spend a whopping $600 more for the Electrovoice or Niemen mics, or supply 6 singers with Rode M2s and it would still all be totally subjective.
Hello, thanks for the informative video. Where can I find the piano recording from 9mins onwards? Whoever it is, it's really nice. Thanks
You need better quality equipment especially speakers to get meaningful results.
listening test with eurolive pa? Man, I'm sure you were able to determine detail on those high quality drivers.
The whole point of the test was to test how the microphones sounded in a live setting. Therefor we used the equipment we use for live performance. There were obvious differences between the different microphones in this setup. Perhaps the result would have been different if the listening test had been done using studio equipment, but that would have been irrelevant in this case.
Or better live equipment. I.E. Meyer or EAW. Something that is capable of accurately reproducing the frequencies that are being fed into it.
Avocalypse vokalgrupp I don't think that would be irrelevant. You are giving results on mic quality. You should have used a quality speaker setup to listen to them. The behringers will extremely color the sound in a bad way. A higher quality mic can sound like crap through those speakers. The true quality of the mic will not be reproduced. Therefore your results will only be valid for people using behringer b215s. And those using b215s would probably never own a single one of these mics other than the 58. Fwiw as a vocal group you need a live speaker update.
The unwritten rules of music experts on the internet: No Behringer product can ever be any good, the Shure SM58 sucks... Really?
blackberryblossom wtf are you talking about?
thanks for the great review. I'm leaning toward the S1 or the re410 for myself a 2nd tenor... I'm wondering if you found the AKG's didn't perform well because you didn't mention them. they seem to be popular these days thanks for the advice 👍
I'm curious what you're opinions are on the Shure Live Condenser mics, namely the KSM9 and the Beta87 series!
Wonderful video, very informative :)
Beta 87 builds on the same character as the 58 beta is disappointing for its feedback performance, imo
Do you get paid bei RØDE or is this an advertisement? (btw. I like RØDE, use an NT1000 in my homestudio, but this review seems a little biased, to say the least)
This sounds like a 1980s British news report. Did you work for BBC at one point?
Please compare the Shure Beta 87a to the Shure KSM9. Thanks!
hi guys, first thing, thank you very much for the video! i'm pleased.
I'm from brazil, and starting my career, going to buy my first condenser live microphone, and I am in doubt about two mics, the at2010 and the rode m2.
I would like to ask you guys, what of this two you would choice. And whose of them would have more gain before feedback, in live situations.
Thank you very much guys! And sorry for the bad english.
Greetings from Brazil.
Hey. I have a question:
What kind of microphone was using a lector in this film? Because of I'm looking for the microphone as a master of ceremonies.
Thanks in advance for the reply.
Can you please stop calling them roadee. The brand is said like 'road'. Much love from an Australian.
Can you do this with drums? And electric guitar with condensers n dymaimcs
Great work, thank you so much !
I'm looking for a microphone for all sorts of vocalists, which doesn't sound thin or harsh once you back off from it. The KMS105 and M2's responses doesn't suggest any of this high mid (2.5 - 5kHz is the bothersome area usually) resonance design. The S1 does, with a slightly lesser that average boost at 4kHz.
The KMS105 is out of my price range, do you remember any impressions from the M2 in that regard?
Hi Adam! Thank you for your response. It took us several month to perform this shootout so I do remember much from it. The M2 is probably the best microphone in the budget range but be aware... It didn't suit all of our members in Avocalypse ( actually it really performed bad on 2 singers ). If I'd been you I would have gone for EV RE410 or try the RE510 microphone which is selling around 250 dollars and seem to be good for all type of singers. I'm pretty sure you'll be satisfied and surprised how well these microphones perform. Hope you'll be happy with this answer
Nicklas Sellman
Hi Nicklas,
Did you get any input from the live sound engineers about these mics, and how easy they were to work with technically, and how easy they were to fit into the mix? I'm looking for a versatile mic with expected results to replace the sm58, that I can use as default with any singer with confidence. That's even more of an issue with condensers, as well as the dynamics I've tried to replace the sm58 with. The sm58 sounds good+ on any sound system, with any singer, has good feedback rejection for a loud band.
Any input is appreciated, thanks!
Oh God, I thought I was in a video of father Paulo Ricardo, he has the same intro song, XD
Hi man, i'm from brazil! Your video it's very great!!
But there is a mic that no one speaks about and i sing today in one, looks like very great. Do you know something about the SUPERLUX S125??
Any one of these microphones are within that special 5% of superior fidelity, it's hard to wrong. But all things considered, the Rode look like the real winners as they are priced in the realm of the real world and punch considerably higher than their price would suggest. You literary cannot make a bad decision other than a financially bad decision amongst this lot
Had you tried Audix, you would have had wayyyy different results ;-)
The best microphone is that of the presenter ahahahah
Get more lewitt and miktek. Best bang for buck imo
You know, you had me until you put the SM58 ahead of the Neumann. I've used both extensively, and as a singer there's absolutely no comparison. The SM58 is a piece of junk next to the velvet experience of singing into a KMS 105. You've just lost all credibility. Adios.
Microphones are all Over priced! This is Old technology..Patened in 60's ,70s & 80's..So the patens ran out about 15 -25 years ago!
The Chinese (Or anybody) can reproduce any of them (Exactly) for about $0.50 of metal ,$0.50 in plastic and maybe a $4.00 magnet (For the dynamics).....
So they would double their money at $10.
(Condensers should be cheaper)
{Except the button mics have about 10 cents worth of material.}
Honestly, no mic should cost over $300 at most. Paying $500 more for a KMS over an S1 is just unbelievable