2021 Yamaha MT09 SP - Full Exhaust System (+ Drag races)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Testing our 2021 MT09 SP with the new Dominator HP5 EX exhaust (no db killer fitted) Euro 0 Compliant!
Reasons for choosing this particular exhaust:
Two silencers which allows for better noise abatement without the need to run a db killer, and subsequently restrict exhaust flow.
I also prefer the angle / height of the silencer when compared to other options available.
Good value!
I do plan on getting the bike mapped at some point (I am sure that there are significant gains to be had!) however, I can confirm that the bike runs/fuels very well on the stock mapping! There is a distinct lack of deceleration "pops" which gives me confidence that the bike is not running too lean (although I could be wrong). Many of these modern bikes correct the fueling via the o2 sensor, to a certain extent, which I assume is why this, and other exhausts, are marketed as: "Remapping not required" although understandably, there is no substitute for a proper map tuned to the individual bike!
After the initial install, I did run the bike up to temperature at idle, until the fans came on, at which point I hit the kill switch with the ignition left on for 5 minutes (ECU learning mode apparently... / previous advice from Ducati technicians). I'm not sure if the Yamaha ECU has the same feature but either way, she now runs great!
dominator.pl/e...
Disclaimer: This video was filmed in a closed area under the guidance of trained professionals, never imitate any riding performed in this video on public roads! Speedo does not depict "actual speed" and scenery may appear to move faster than in real life.
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beautiful video mate! looked like you guys were having a great time... that sp is such a lovely bike!
Cheers
Keep the MT09sp videos coming! Great job! You should get someone to film you being a hooligan on the bike. Just get a bunch of cool shots of you pulling wheelies and flying down country roads. Cheers!
I went with the akrapovic racing line exhaust. Not to loud with the baffle in. Definitely feel the difference in power and torque all through the rev range, not that it was lacking. It also sounds awesome
👍Nice, I was concerned that the Akra might be a bit too loud, but maybe not. I also wasn't sure about the angle/height of the end can on the Akra (from an aesthetics point of view). Although you can't argue with the fact that the Akra exhaust will be very well made!
@@tankslapmoto9999 it might be a tad loud for some but I think it’s great.
@@tankslapmoto9999 imo akrapović looks way better than dominator (more horizontal layout, no middle bulky pipe), and it is not loud at all with baffle in
Just ordered this exhaust mate for mine. Thanks for the recommendation!
More Dank Wheelies pls! You make it seem effortless!
Nice bike and your review has made me pick this over the RS660 & 890R. Hopefully will be able to get it in March.
Cheers from Silicon Valley California
🤟You are going to love it, enjoy my friend.
@@tankslapmoto9999 Sorry for the delay. Just saw the reply. Have a Merry Christmas. God bless
Awesome 😎
I’m waiting out for sc project but was so tempted to buy one of these
Cheers dude 👍 The SC Project will be badass for sure,, especially if they do some titanium headers.
Great set you got there, and some serious skills🤩
I just got the MT09 ‘21 with the dominator HP3, however I bought it without middel damper. Bad guess from my side, somewhat too loud now. And ordering the damper separately cost 60% of the initial price😒🔫
Cheers👍 The HP3 is a nice setup, I bet it sounds really good, even if it is a tad loud, you might have to just get a good set of ear plugs😉
I did the same but with the dB killer in its perfect
High exhaust looks best. Nice bike!
I like the more subdued sound. It's not stupidly loud but it does sound burly.
awesome man!
Private roads are the best... Can't wait for mine to get mapped with the filter and the full system next Friday... I'll keep you posted as discussed on Instagram... If you need a tail tidy like mine let me know and I'll share the link..very well made and cheap... Love the sound of your exhaust and the fact that you won the drag race 🤩😃😎
Once yours is mapped with the filter and full system, you might just have one of (if not the) quickest gen 3 MT09's in the UK! I think it will make really good power... Mines pulling like a train with just the exhaust😊 I have been looking at a tail tidy... although I bought the official Ducati one for the Monster and immediately regretted it the first time i got caught in a bit of rain.
@@tankslapmoto9999 I felt the same on my test ride... Pulled very hard at the top and a bit better in the middle .. top end is drastically better with the remap .. can't wait ... Tail tidy is a must for me... It gets messy in the rain but then anything to look good 🤩😂
Can I see your insta? Also have a 21 09
@@aleks_the_Great13 really wanna know more about your bike mate. I have an SP version and want to do same mods as you
@@povilaslondon sorry for the late reply.. it's basically a mwr filter full system with underbelly exhaust and remap... Made 128 hp at the crankshaft 🤪
Hi Tankslapmoto again, contacted dominater in poland about performance enhancements, they replied its mostly the sound quality is better with the HP5 fitted?..nothing about hp? response through the gears? Whats your opinion m8?
I find it runs very similar to stock in terms of throttle response, in terms of hp gains, I doubt there's much if any up top without a remap but I could feel a definite improvement in the midrange power.
Hi! Great video, please, can you explain me the "ECU learning mode"? How many times did you do that? Thanks a lot
The procedure goes as follows:
1) From a completely Cold engine - disconnect the battery (you will need to reset the clock later on)
2) join the 2 unconnected battery terminals together to remove any remaining power in the ecu (or leave disconnected for 10mins)
3) reconnect the battery
4) start the bike and let the bike idle (do not rev the bike) until the fan activates and then comes off.
5) turn the bike off from the starter button/switch leaving the key in the "on" position once you hear the fan turn off (think it's 97 degrees).
6) wait 30 seconds and turn ignition off from the key = ECU learning complete.
You only need to perform this procedure once, unless you make any changes to the exhaust or reinstall the O2 sensor, in which case you'd need to do it again.
Apparently, so I have been told by a Ducati technician, it uses the o2 sensor to "learn" from the initial start-up. I cannot confirm that Yamaha has the same programme, but I suspect that it does, I have always had good results by adopting this procedure when fitting a new exhaust (if no remap).
@@tankslapmoto9999 thank you! I will try!
@@tankslapmoto9999 unfortunately it doesn't work.. The feeling on the bike is the same..
Hello, looks and sounds the dogs , another great vid , I’ve been looking at the same but could you answer me this did you have to pay import duties if so how much , cheers Steve,
Cheers 👍 Yes, unfortunately import duties (and a broker fee!) were payable to the tune of 108 Great British Pounds... which was a nice surprise.
Sounds great! Did you map it? How was the install and overall quality/fit of the system?
Hi, No map yet - it runs fine without it (I think these modern bikes adjust the fueling via the o2 sensor - to a certain degree) but im sure it would be even better with a remap. Overall quality/fit and finish is very good, it all went together nice and easy, the only complaint would be that the logo is a sticker (seems well stuck/good quality) rather than an embossed or rivited logo.
@@tankslapmoto9999 thanks for the reply, i hope dominator will make one for the '22 xsr900 :)
I'd imagine that the underslung MT versions would bolt straight on, but the versions that utilize the footpeg hanger might need to be adapted for the XSR, by the looks of things. Lovely bike that new XSR!
Yamaha (and just about every other brand in existence) is restricted by regulations. This means no matter what exhaust you use, the throttle-control map (the map that interprets the signal from the handlebar grip and translates that to movement at the throttle plate) will always and without exception limit the amount of actual throttle the ECU will give the throttlebodies. You can crank the grip to 100% and the ECU will limit that to whatever is programmed into the throttle map. What this means, depending on RPM, the ECU is the nanny that takes your grip 100% and gives the engine 82% or 79% or whatever the map says. Has NOTHING to do with air/fuel ratio and o2 sensors.
Hello, did you notice the timing chain tensioner noise like many other 2021 Mt09 users? Mainly on a cold engine?
Hi yes, unfortunately, I go in to it in a bit more detail in our review video th-cam.com/video/5aOgnz7wVsg/w-d-xo.html at 14:36. It is a strange one, it doesn't do it all the time and usually only lasts for a few seconds. The general consensus is that it is linked to the tensioner being driven by oil pressure (although most tensioners, even those that are oil driven, work on a ratchet system so once the slack is taken up in the chain, the rattle shouldn't come back the next day...) Perhaps the design of this tensioner is unusual. I don't think it is anything to worry about, the dealers seem relaxed about it, but it is a little annoying as without this issue it sounds like a sewing machine.
@@tankslapmoto9999 Thanks for the quick reply. By the way, you make great movies.
Is there a reason you arent using the auto blipper down? I thought that was factory with the new 09-SP? I am looking to upgrade from the 07 to this new 09-SP..... I have taken one out and my god was it fun! Any pointers?
Hi, I think I used the blipper on all but maybe 2/3 downshifts in this video. It works great and I use it all the time although if I am just cruising/at low rpm when I downshift, I tend to use the clutch (just for mechanical sympathy and smoothness). It's a great bike, if you like your 07 you will love the 09. I did a review with a bit more detail if interested, Cheers👍
@@tankslapmoto9999 Mind chucking the link here? and ohh my bad, i was listening to the bike rather than looking at your clutch hand all the time haha
Yeah sure - th-cam.com/video/5aOgnz7wVsg/w-d-xo.html it is hard to tell sometimes, the blip for the downshifts is more noticeable the higher you are up the rev range and between 1st and 2nd where the ratios are the widest.
I'm about to get the same exact system. I 'm between the black and satin sleeve .Do you think the black coating is prone to chipping discoloration? Mine is the grey red model. Thank you!
If I bought it again I'd save some time (they are ceramic coated to order) and money and go with the satin finish. It marks easy and the satin finish is probably a more high quality finish overall.
@@tankslapmoto9999 Thank you! I thought the same.Do you think that it gives some oomph compared to the OEM?
I found that it has a bit more midrange power, feels a little more eager to power wheelie in 2nd and 3rd but only a slight improvement👍
@@tankslapmoto9999 Thank you!
awesome vid m8, have the same mt 09 sp 2021, love it, trouble deciding between akrapovic or dominator upgrade, do u know if there is much difference between the two? Did u have to remove catalytic converter? Like the wheelies, did u take off wheel control on ecu? cheers
Thanks😊 For me the Akra is probably slightly better build quality, being carbon fiber and made by Akra, but it is more expensive, too loud (dominator has 2 silencers) and I don't like the angle of the silencer on the Akra either but it is all personal preference. Yes wheelie control turned off!
@@tankslapmoto9999 Thanks 4 the reply, think ill go with the dominater, tinitus in both ears! Mixed info online about ecu flash afterwards, any advice m8?😃 U should check out LMRC awesome rideouts.
Hi, on the ecu flash, there's definitely performance gains to be had by doing a flash but, it is certainly not necessary with the HP5 (twin silencer version). The back pressure is not dramatically different from the stock pipe and it runs perfect without a remap (no popping on deceleration, which can be a sign of lean running). The ecu corrects the fueling via the o2 sensor, so as long as the back pressure is not dramatically different, it can easily compensate.
I will check out the LMRC, cheers👍
Does it go at 39 sec and TC kicks in? I'm looking into buying one and wondered if that did slide if you or the bike saved it....
Hi yes, she was moving around quite a bit that day, it was fairly cold (about 6°C) and easy to provoke some slides. The opening sequence was a bigger one, at about 3 seconds in (it is hard to tell from the visual but you can hear the tone of the exhaust change as the TC was doing its thing, it is very subtle). I wouldn't call it a save as such, more just a case of bumping into the electronics on their lowest settings. There's a tremendous amount of mechanical grip, so you do have to provoke it, but it would still spit you off if you weren't careful👍
@@tankslapmoto9999 Good to know thanks, this will be one of my more "nuts" bikes and was curious to how it was doing on the video. I had a tuned blackbird once but it was only fun in the straights
any lost of torque in low revs with the full system?
Not that I can tell, bottom end feels the same👍
Sounds great nice tone but not too loud
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the sound of the three cylinder proves that the sound of a two cylinder is shit!!!!