Bradley Cooper didn’t practice 40 hrs 😬
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Hello from the concertmaster 😃👏
Maestro Lauri!! 👏👏👏👏So wonderful to see you HERE. Congratulation, definitely you were the hero of the day: the de facto conductor. As a concert musician, I had many encounters with heroic concertmasters, but it seems a very new level.
Can you share some light background stories about this filming?
Yes, definitely we would love to hear about your favorite moments from this 'concert'.👏👏👏
Hello! 🫢
is it true what they said abput concertmasters
@@nuts4607 Yeah, we move a lot. Same for the principals.
TwoSet should review Tár. People say it's NOT sacrilegious. But we need a professional opinion.
It’s HILARIOUS how Todd Field’s _Tár_ upstaged Bradley Cooper’s _Maestro_ so devastatingly, a year in advance. The latter film is such over-directed and boring Oscar bait by comparison.
i think they did react to one scene of tar roasting a student but not the conducting moments
I watched the DVD then burned it.
the Juilliard scene is totally sacrilegious
@@madeleinegerlach4854I did agree with some of the things she said, but boy was she such an assh*le in that scene...
The orchestra is "legit" because its the actual London Symphony Orchestra in the scene. My brother-in-law was playing in this scene, and the deal was they would all follow the leader, because Bradley Cooper was doing his routine AND directing the scene at the same time. They were all very impressed.
do you know what symphony is brett refering to at the end of the video?
@@ashdf1872 that's adagietto from symphony no. 5
It stinks!
@in It's self-indulgent if you forget that he's acting and assume he's conducting. I think that if you keep in mind that he's a non-musician just trying to look like Bernstein, what he's doing makes a lot of sense.
@@koalabandit9166 Well just up-front I'll admit I really disliked the movie. I went in not knowing much about Bernstein and why his music is so well-regarded, how he created West Side Story, that kind of thing, and I came out of the film...still not knowing any of that. This flailing around midpoint of the film was the lowest point for me where I was rolling my eyes so hard at Cooper's "Pleeeeease give me an Oscar!!" sweaty display.
Finally TwoSetRoast is back!! WE NEED MORE!!
Yes
@@p5rawQyeah😂😂😂
NO WAY IT"S YOU
bernstein was known to be a bit of a wild conductor with VERY strong opinions of what should happen in the music. But… not THIS wild 💀
Well, Bradley Cooper is known for being a bit of a wild actor himself, so I'm not at all surprised.
My mother sang under Bernstein's direction during a Broadway show and subsequent revival. Strong opinions in my early years which has carried forward.
I like his egmont overture and beethoven symphonies.(Possibly?)
Yeah, the portrayal is a bit exaggerated.
Recommended vids, where TSV review (?) Bernstein (among other conductors).
Why Being a Conductor is The Hardest Job Ever
This Famous Conductor DESTROYED the poor musicians
He only did 39 hours
Shame
Yeah 😢
To be more precise 39 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds; the extra second wouldve changed everything
@@supercomposer precisely
umm... how bout 3
So at 6:18 they comment on the 'legit-ness' of the orchestra. The orchestra performing here is the *actual* London Symphony Orchestra - the same orchestra as in the original Bernstein Ely Cathedral performance that this clip is based off. The concertmaster in the video is the current co-leader of the LSO, Carmine Lauri, and from recognising a lot of the faces in the video I'd wager all of the performers there are part of the LSO's standard concert lineup.
wow!!
Others have commented on the concertmaster giving big cues, but the whole scene was done legitimately, live, for the filming. The concertmaster's not going to be cueing other sections of the orchestra, and it's too big a group, and too complex a piece, for the orchestra to play perfectly without a conductor. Bradley has said he wanted to be able to do the scene properly. I'm always hugely critical of music portrayals on screen, but I actually think he did ok with this. I've seen concertmasters with pro conductors make big gestures during regular concerts. But from what I've read I think he was 'conducting' them legitimately for the scene.
Which brings me to another sloppiness in the actual direction and preparation of the scene. They were content with having the real LSO to shoot with but failed to go the extra mile.
The real performance was televised, you can watch it. And guess what, it being the mid 70's the hairstyles were completely different and of course there were way less female players in the orchestra. The latter is a bit hard to accomplish if you want the real orchestra in the scene, the times have changed, but the former is just a job of the make-up department and caring enough to spend money on wigs for about 120 people.
Considering the accuracy with which they nailed the costuming and hairstyles, and especially Bernstein's much-photographed sartorial looks, throughout the bulk of the movie, that's a minor flaw I can live with.@@Quotenwagnerianer
@@GrandisSilvayou can literally see the concert master cueuing the orchestra though. This is a very experienced group though, and I'm sure they had a lot of takes
Hi to the both of you ! I am a 82 year old senior and when looking for some violin music to listening to , I found TWOSETVIOLIN and Eddy and Brett you both are so AWESOME 👍👍🤗! Thank you for bright ing up my day!!
Hey, that's awesome! Do you play violin yourself?
My mom is 82 as well and likes twoset when I show it to her. She won’t experiment with TH-cam though, she will only watch a video if I send her a link. So congrats at playing around with TH-cam enough that the algorithm connected you to twoset.
Hello from a 79 year old who loves classical music AND the
wonderful TwoSet young men!
They give hope to the future of
classical music!!!
I'm 71 and at 69 years old, I took up the piano because of Brett and Eddy! They said to follow your passion and don't think you're too old to learn!
@@carolhayes7750 It's always a treat to see that TwoSet has such a large range of followers and that they managed to inspire people of all ages to pick up an instrument.
Keep it up! 😊
In Belgium, there's an actor who's a big fan of Brahms 4 and it was his life's dream to conduct it, so they made a TV show following him trying to learn how to conduct (within 1 year) and showing what a conductor does, and it ended with him performing Brahms 4 with the Belgian National Orchestra. It's actually really nice, both for introducing people to classical music and showing what a conductor does.
I'll bet the show is inspirational as well as educational. Do you remember the name of it?
@@Gabe-no5zy Maestro Degand!
That sounds really interesting, I definitely want to watch it! In which language was it filmed? (I'm French.)
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Dutch/Flemish. I'm not sure what subtitles are available.
@@birthe9439 I'll try to find it, hope they are subtitles because I dont speak Dutch at all. But since Belgium is a multi-lingual country, aren't shows usually translated / with captions ?
I've been singing in choirs for 20 years, and at least in an orchestra, you have a concertmaster to follow. For us, if the conductor is lamentable, we're screwed. 🥲
I have also sung in many choirs. The concerts where we were lucky enough to be singing with a symphony (Carmina Burana comes to mind), those of us who could see the concertmaster had help. Those who couldn’t … well, what you said! Same with concerts with an organist. Most of us could see them, and their head cues could be surprisingly informative & helpful!
@@eddavidson3051 True words, this happened to me, too 😅 But I was rather thinking of a capella pieces/songs. Also of course, in choir you have voice section leaders, but it's easier to follow one person (conductor or concertmaster) than us 4 or 6 section leaders paying attention on each other and trying to hold the choir together 😅😅
I remember when my church choir did a collaboration with another church choir from another town. For those who don't know, in church choirs the person playing the piano/organ is usually also the one conducting so we rely not so much on hand gestures and a whole lot more on eye contact, nods and body language. The choirs practiced separately at first - all went well for us. Then the other choir came to us for a practice with our leader conducting and the other playing - all went well for both choirs. Then we went to them for a practice with their leader conducting and our playing - and neither choir would come in when we were supposed to. Our leader was very expressive and very clear with her cues, while theirs kept the beat with a poker face and never looked up from his sheet music. I can read music, most of us could to some degree, but the fact that he gave us no indication at all made it seem like he didn't want us to come in even though the music said so and at least our choir had done so at every other practice. He was a great musician, but I wouldn't want him conducting me ever again 😅
@@BadGirlFan I had the exact opposite experience once. The conductor of the choir we were collabing with had so many extra movements and wild gestures that we had no idea when anything was supposed to happen.
When I was in college, our conductor taught a conducting class and we he would use the choir for his student's final assessment. I remember one student was conducting and she didn't queue us in properly. Afterward she made some comment like "well no one came in..." and the conductor basically ripped her a new one XD. He was like "yeah they didn't come in because YOU didn't queue them!" Fun times
The orchestra is the actual London Symphony Orchestra which agreed to be used in this movie.
I bet they did $$$$$. They probably laughed all the way to the bank
10:05 This short duet is the best gift god gave to the world😭I think Brett just started to play on the spot and Eddy caught on😭Friendship goal!
do you know which symphony it is?? because I don‘t
@@angelinaschinkel3087I thinks it is Mahler Symphony no. 5: IV Adagietto
Watching y’all try to follow his conducting at the end was hilarious 😂
*video plays for 2 seconds*
twoset: okay LOOK
I got to perform with Bernstein a handful of times. Most notably was during our first performance during the Rite of Spring at the Schleswig Holstein Musik Festival in 1987.
He had been ill a few days before and there was a possibility of his not being well enough to perform. He did... we were in the first section of the Rite where the strings hold a chord in the strings with a cut off to the next series of crashes, bangs and booms or rhythm.
He didn't cut off the strings and jumped into the air..... and at the same time he caught himself not in time, however. The concertmaster/mistress now in the Baltimore Symphony held the orchestra's strings together and we waited what seemed like an eternity (split seconds) to collect himself.
It was exciting to say the least and recovered as scary as it was.
As for the movie, it's about the man and his relationship of being bisexual in an age that wasn't very tolerant. His wife accepted him almost unconditionally. He would have burnt out sooner without her. She is the unsung heroine behind the maestro. And he wasn't the same after her passing.
No way to fill the void she left.
Wow -- great story and kudos to the concert mistress!
Hey Brett and Eddy, i just wanted to say that you guys have been such an inspiration to me. I did not grow up playing an instrument but after watching your videos i have felt inspired to learn and I'm happy to tell you that u will have my first lesson this summer right after my hughschool finals. Love from Uganda 🇺🇬
Which instrument?
wow happy for you!
I'm from guitar gang and I really enjoy twoset content
🇦🇺 🇿🇼 My childhood was also in Africa a very long time ago. Music never dies. I wish you well as you learn.
❤❤❤
That's so cool! That instrument will you play?
Twoset going nerdy on the classical music side of basically anything is what I will never get tired of watching!! Love it so much!! The more the better!!
naught naughty. someone skipped practice
He practiced 39 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds and 59 milliseconds
not me tho (i am lazy asl)
damn editor san, that transition from brett and eddy playing to an orchestra playing at the end was perfection
I’m surprised I haven’t seen any other comment mentioning this it was smooth AF
I bursted into tears instantly
I noticed it immediately. Well done Editor-San!
Literally came here to comment this. So so smooth
sorry for being a noob, which symphony number was it?
I so much miss these simple videos. They've been working so hard to make these grandiose muliplayer videos when in reality all we want is just to see and hear them laugh and nerd out over classical content 😭 bring back the old days
Same! I find the videos with games and more players often boring lately I have to admit, sometimes even stopping to watch them in the middle. All I want are Brett and Eddy nerding out together in their studio 🥲
Big same
I didn’t realise how much I missed twoset reacting to films and tv shows until I began watching this video😭 thank you for this…
When Prelude came in as background music I legit wanted to cry before even knowing what it was😭😭 such beautiful music!!!
i was so happy to hear the fantasia soundtrack, i havent heard it forever!
is that what the last symphony was in the outro? sorry im a noob, would love to know which mahler symphony it was :)
@@existentialgourd5677
Its from Mahler Smphony no 5. The adagietto.
This is actually a good video (Conducting 101!) for someone like me with zero experience in conducting. I have to say, Eddy is really good at explaining music theories in a concise but accurate way. Love this video so much!! It looks like a roasting video, but they are not just roasting, they are actually giving legit advice and trying to teach us something lol Thanks for the lesson, Prof Yang and Prof Chen!
You should actually check out their older video - how to follow a conductor, it's hilarious and educational! One of my faves 😂
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The real Bernstein for sure practiced 40 hours a day!
it doesn't make sense to me that he constantly gestures toward the soloists when they can't see him 🙈
i didn’t realize how much i missed the consistent twoset posting 🥲🥲
Odd, right? 😂
Same!
Same. 😢
Same dude
SAME!
The "Maestro Coopah" killed me 🤣.
That Brett laugh at 9:16 was more Mozart than Amadeus himself.
I've been watching you guys ever since "if you can play it slowly, you can play it quickly". I hope to see you in person someday and you've been inspiring me to stick with music for years now! You're the best Brett and Eddy 🥰
You can't imagine, how i missed content like this
So, I am a mucisan (playing the violin and piano in a music school), but there was a time that I didn't want to practice, because I tought I wasn't good enough and everyone was expecting soo much from me, but I want to thank you for bringing me back my confidence and my ,,energy'' to practice 3-4 hours a day. Love you!❤❤❤❤
I'm so used to Eddy sitting on the right and Brett on the left, that I feel something is off. Haha 😅 But love u guys, thanks for this episode.
This reminds me of an OG twoset video: Honest translations of conductor gestures--grab your bOw… row row row your boat😂
i really like the in depth analysis of the conducting here. it’s interesting to know more of what orchestral musicians see when watching these movies
it’s a harsher review than previous ones they did for other movies and dramas but it’s because the actor here has put in good efforts unlike those out right fake stuff
The orchestra are also all actors. They are acting like they are taking the conductor seriously.
It is a real orchestra though - one of the London ones. And they did film it legitimately with Bradley conducting them.
I was making a joke.
they weren't. they only looked at the concertmaster (lol)
Imagine sitting there and trying to keep a straight face while an ignorant actor play-pretends he has any control over your music.
@@DameMitHermelin I actually read some articles before seeing the film and he apparently played an orchestral instrument (bass perhaps? I can't remember but it was an orchestral instrument) when he was young, has always been fascinated by the role of a conductor, and worked with actual experts. I'm a musician and rarely enjoy any portrayals of music-making on screen, but I give him a pass for this.
Also yes, years ago I did at times play in an ensemble conducted by someone who hadn't a clue (business workshops, etc). For me personally, the person's character and ego would matter more. He worked on the Mahler for years and took that scene very seriously, so hopefully the orch were able to enjoy it at least somewhat. Hard to go totally without a conductor for a complex piece, too, no matter how well the orch knew it.
hey, conductor here! if you anyone is interested I also did a bit of a review of the conducting in this movie ft. all those the magical extra beats and the first violin as MVP - though I didn't dare to roast this hard 🙃
Really good video
Just came here after rewatching the O.G ROASTS and I am so glad they came Bach
They were never gone, just Haydn from us
@@Laura-gb1jv haha that's a good one!!
Omg how I have missed these videos. Funny and informative!
Yaaaas, Classical Music Detectives are back 🎉 I have missed these type of vids!
Considering Bradley cooper is not a conductor, a pro pianist, or actually Leonard Bernstein, - he did a pretty good job getting the feel, the vibe, of the man
There’s no such thing as perfect, and film preparation doesn’t give the years required to learn all the skills and knowledge that someone like Bernstein would have had. Music was what he’d dedicated his entire life to, especially conducting, and Mahler was his favorite composer. He would have known that piece in and out in his sleep. He does a lot to get Bernstein’s character and mannerisms, and I think it’s obvious he did a lot of training and preparation. I honestly really loved this movie because you can tell it comes from a place of admiration and respect for the music and the musicians
For any of you interested, the symphony at the end is Mahler's 5th, Adagietto
omg thank you so much, I was hoping someone at the coments would knew it, cause brett didn't said what symphony was jaja
Oh thank you I was wondering!
Thank you and God bless you. I was looking for this comment.
Which was famously used in the movie "Death in Venice" by Visconti.
Again the Mahler 5? After it was featured in Tar?
You guys always take us to a deeper level. Fun as well as information!!! Thanks so much!!!
Never tire of two set video, love your guys' videos and playing. Got me back into classical music again
I love watching you two 😅. Such a brilliant idea you two have here 😊. Thank you
“If you don’t know it, get educated”
Yes Master Brett 🙇♀️🙇♀️🙇♀️
Just in time!!! I really need sacrilegious vid
I can't comment about your critique. I have been to a concert in Vienna where Bernstein was guest conductor when I was a student in 1969/70. I have not watched the movie but what I can say is that Bernstein was a performer with a baton in his hand. No amount of practice could help Bradley Cooper imitate that wild card. And yes, if you can't blame Blood Raven (ASOIAF, GoT) look to the concert master for help!😁
I never knew how much I missed the two set roasts
It made my day ❤
so happy you're posting regularly again :)
Yannick is a wonderful conductor. I was singing with Montréal Symphony when he started with Orchestre Métropolitain, and shortly, he programmed pieces that required a chorus, so us OSM singers moonlighted at OM. The first thing I noticed about him was not his youth, nor his incredible musicality, though those would have been prominent. It was his respect, which struck all of us. A respectful conductor. No wonder everyone who has ever had the chance to work with him still raves about the experience! Humble, too, and respectful. Those qualities are few and far between in the music world. Yannick? Pure joy.
His work with Mr Cooper is phenomenal. To take a musically inclined ACTOR and bring him up as a believeable Bernstein is something else. Oh, there may be a beat out of place here and there, even the most reknowned have f*ckups that are sometimes memorable, if not legendary, where the Konzertmeister must keep their cool so that they can be a reference for everyone on stage, including the barytones who are almost out of sight, lost near the wings of the concert hall.
As a Dramatic Soprano, I wonder who placed the Mezzo so far in the front. A couple of steps back and the regular glimpses the conductor and soloist exchange would have been more stressed upon, and less disrupting than having the conductor turn so much. Like when Tatiana Troyanos got annoyed with Dutoit for God knows what reason (he did cause more than one to be annoyed) and in rehearsal, sang the Habanera with one foot raised on her chair, her hips then being totally free to ACT Carmen. Lightning in their eyes I tell ya!
Sorry for the rant. Good memories is all. :)
Yep, Dutoit can be difficult to work with, but he is a great musician.
"I wonder who placed the Mezzo so far in the front."
It for sure was Cooper's idea, because of the way he shot this, they singers would have distracted from him if they had been positioned were they really stood in the original performance.
Just look it up on TH-cam, they stood right next to Bernstein , half a step before him, so that a simple glance to the side was sufficient for contact.
Bradley Cooper isn’t a conductor, I get it, I don’t expect the conducting to be perfect. What I don’t get is why they didn’t cut away from the obviously inaccurate conducting to focus on the actual orchestra or soloists or members of the choir, people who actually know what they’re doing! I just sang Mahler 2 with my choir and I definitely wouldn’t have been able to follow his “beat” looooool
Also I find it hysterical that Brett said he wasn’t a pianist when he got to GRADE 8 😩😭
Because the scene is not about them!
I really like the new background!! 😊😊
i think this is the earliest i’ve been (BUT WE LOVE TWOSET CONTENT ❤️)
Brilliant as usual, and love the Mahler ending!!
The section where you guys played to his conducting cracked me up-I’m a soprano, and way back in high school our normal choir concerts and competitions would be conducted by our own teachers, whose idiosyncrasies we were very used to-and then every year there would be a citywide Christmas concert in which every high school in the city would form one megachoir, and each school’s choir teacher would direct a certain number of songs, and some of them were easy to follow and clear, and some of them were fine if a bit dry or unemotional as far as musical expressiveness went, and some of them…four years of that in, in our senior year, if you weren’t their students you were still going “What does that mean??? Why are you accenting just the upbeats with your hands; this song isn’t syncopated; there’s no -sound- there! What is happening??? Was that supposed to be a cutoff signal? It looked like he said ‘come in now,’ but we’re already singing?” It is strangely nostalgic with a few decades of distance and you guys frantically playing 1-1-1-1
Love how u two try to follow the conducting from Cooper 😂 very educational and interesting at the same time
this is why i love twoset thank you guys, you rule
I’ve honestly been hoping y’all would review Bradley Cooper’s performance for a while. Thank you!
THIS IS SOOOO FUNNNN AND EDUCATIONAL WHAT YOU DO!!!! IT‘S PERFECCTTTTTT 😭😭😭❤️❤️
Them following along the conducting is sooooo funny lololol. but good job actor, you are amazing
i dont even really care how good it is, I just respect the fact that he worked on this
So many things to be aware of when you are part of an orchestra. Props to the concert master for being another keeper of the music performance. Bravo.
Omg two set I love your videos so much I’m a huge fan! I am a high school cellist from Tennessee and it would be absolutely amazing if you could come to Tennessee for any future world tours I would love to see you perform!!!!!
I love the transition at the end, well done guys!
loved this! so much fun, hahaha
Yay, Twoset did a roast! I'm really happy :) ty twoset
Thank you for the symphony at the very end! Need some more of that to get educated!
You two bring me an abundance of joy and laughter! So lovely to have you back.
When you launched into it at the end "One of the most beautiful Symphonies in the world. If you don't know it, get educated." really grabbed me by surprise, the duet fading perfectly into the orchestra. Absolutely stunning. Got choked up.
omg twosetroasts is back!!! been a long time since the last one
YES i LOVE these thank you!!!!!!!!
I’ll be in Munich on March the 26th, I will come from Italy 🤩🎻 and I am so inspired by you two guys that I started a violin course 2 months ago 🤩🎻
Really impressive acting indeed!
I love the smooth transition from your playing to the orchestra recording 10:24💚
Thanks I needed this
You guys really are a ray of sunshine through dark times. Thank you!
3:45
seeing brett and eddy do tiktok dance move with beethoven gigachad music is not something I thought I'd see today.. Not complaining tho...
Ooh! Long time no roast😂
So funny XDXDXD
Brett and Eddy: *shouting ONE! repeatedly while sawing away*
That transition at the end was smoooooooth!!👌
The Mozart and Paganini plushies in the bg 🥺
Brett: I went up to grade 8 piano
Also Brett: I'm not a pianist, but...
Great video and woooow to the end, you did a great cut from your play to the orchestra ❤
Thank you TwoSet for another video, we missed music detectives! I just saw this movie a few days ago and it was very interesting to hear how professional musicians receive it. Also Eddy is great at explaining all the details, this is especially useful for non musicians like me.
5:10 is every high school band teacher trying to conduct with the (dragging) choir during the first joint concert rehearsal 😅
When twoset played the Mahler 5 iv I actually cried
i miss these types of videos!
ive been waiting for this
Twoset roast/reviewing movies-format is back!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I didn't have any idea that Brett did Piano to Grade 8....WOW, I am not near that, probably never will be. Now I want to hear him play more piano!
Fun and informative. Love it, keep it up.
I loved y’all two so much!
Petition for twoset to play the whole Mahler 5 in their studio concert style!
If you want to hear TwoSet play a symphony, at least choose one with a reasonable length, not Malher! 😅
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia nah! Has to be over an hour long at least 😜.
Fine, just the Adagietto then...@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia
@mickeyd9369 Your comment made me want to listen to the Adagietto again. And the second result on Google was... Bernstein. 😁
Well, would you look at that?
Bit surprised about Cooper's conducting (without actually having seen the movie). I heard in an interview that he'd studied Bernstein's conducting excessively, especially the Mahler bit!
He's an actor. He was studying Bernstein's general movement and expressions, which he nailed I think.
His actual "conducting" was kinda bad, sure, but it's still pretty good for someone with probably zero prior experience and is convincing enough for the general public.
I think he nailed the passion, but not the technique, which is not surprising! For the purposes of this movie, he really inhabited Bernstein's emotional, theatrical style and mannerisms.
back in the old days omg i miss this style of video :DDD
they are back making EPIC content
PLEASE WE NEED MORE!!
Could you react on Cate Blanchetts acting performance in Tár?
Finally we have a new video😢
just came across this channel again!!! i started playing violin two years ago because of these guys, and i’ve been concert master four times for my school orchestra and finally convinced my parents to join YS. lots of love, and i’ll be watching more! ❤
Thanks for review. Have done this several times but some moments so confused by conducting yes best symphony agree.
Finally!!! I was watching the movie on the plane and I thought I was seeing stuff and it was just my plane brain 😭😭😭