Unbelievable that The Cure made the track A Forest 42 years ago. A serious and sophisticated harbinger of things to come in The Cure sound. Such an amazing track for such young lads.......
@@daveydudely9954 But it grooves, and that taps into something just as essential about music as Beethoven was. Beethoven expressed himself with the harmonic language of his culture instead of the groovy aspects of The Cure's culture, but the genius is the same.
It's just as unbelievable that Chuck Berry wrote Roll Over Beethoven sometime during the fifties because hs sister liked to play classical piano stuff... C'mon man wake up: artists write stuff and it lasts forever, nothing unbelievable in that.
i dont think the press was very obnoxious, just mundane, and the cure gang were already bored of having to do those things before shows, as all acts are. still, they answered everything asked and fairly.
I remember hearing A Forest in early 1982 when I was a high school freshman and wanting to like it so much, but I just didn’t. I wasn’t ready. Then I heard the album Pornography at a party when I graduated high school in 1985 and it changed everything for me. Just about everything I listen to now can be traced back to the way that album hit me at that party a little over 36 years ago. I’ll always love The Cure.
I've been a Cure fan since the 80s and I have to admit that I never really got Pornography. The album never appealed to me that much. It's always cool to hear someone rank it highly in terms of their important Cure albums.
@Ron Kelly I can understand that. Pornography is very dark, and that definitely has limited appeal. But I love how they vacillate between dark and light & bouncy music. After Pornography, they put out singles like “The Walk” and the album The Head On the Door. They followed Disintegration with “Friday I’m in Love”. The Cure have something for everybody.
@@nicemosaics lsd got me hooked on Pornography but I can certainly empathize. Back then, I was very much into Faith/Carnage Visors but “the Walk EP” was IT for me back then.
Thank you for saving this. What a gem! I love Robert's answer to the album question. The spot where he cracks a genuine smile is thinking about all the amazing music he has in the works for us! That's the look of a passionate songwriter. And the performance? Absolute confidence. Love it.
This was the original Cure... not the painted circus of commercial production geared towards new wave/gothic scene that creeped in when Lovecats arrived. Once the producers$ grabbed hold of them it became all about appealing hooks and looks rather than their original music...so it goes.
@@JAOB1968 They had it good musically before Robert & co. wigged out to the commercial scene...but then they got what they really wanted ...billboard and $$$$. The music took a dive...same as with Echo and also Banshees
@@c.anderson3444 i don't think that's true lol. they wigged out to the comercial scene by doing a experimental style of music that to this day it doesn't please everyone?
This is fucking AWESOME. Robert was such a baby here... He and the music almost unrecognizable a few years later. A Forest is an absolute favorite of mine, and to think it was written the year I was born. This band truly defined alternative music... What stamina it took to play at that tempo for so long, too! ❤️
Lol is such an underrated drummer - the tempo on A Forest is a forest fire. We used to cover this song in the 80s and it ran about 165bpm - this is faster.
Simon Gallup is one of my influences in bass playing (Hooky as well etc).....Great player.. I love this early Cure era.....and have done since 1980....
The Cure have done, what most, [if not all] great bands through history are incapable of doing later in their career's....and that is to put out a great release past the age of 30. The latest release by the Cure in 2024.....44 years after this video was made, is a testament to the Cure's creativity, genius and passion for the music they Love. The Cure never sold out..........
He's an insane talent. Not just musically, but in his ability to bring the best people together, let them come and go, and let the music go on. Listen to The Top. That was when Simon was out of the band. Robert does all the bass, guitar, and singing on that album, and it's amazing.
We hear Robert Smith's voice, but coming out of some fresh face, short haired straight kid! What a great sound all around -- and so much more to come. I saw them this year in Austin Texas, smallish venue, they were on fire, what a night
His guitarwork is full of mistakes and sounds thin... fck Fender Jaguar forever. Although back then it was just another guitar, nowadays only hipsters play them.
Fantastic ! I first saw the Cure on the Head on The Door Tour in Detroit. New Order and Gene Loves Jezebel were the warmup bands. What a great band I was lucky to follow my entire youth all the way to this time. It's quite sad actually hearing these songs played at their young age. It makes me yearn to be young again. Getting old sucks at times. I get depressed at times listening to the Cure now. Back in the day that never happened.
The extended Jumping outro w Robert chord-jam future Siouxie era solo that the band knows exactly where he is and ends like a brick wall is definite smile. I’ll always love the slightly more lucid early Robt Smith.
Jumping Someone Else's Train was my first Cure record, knew then they'd go to greatness, though for me lost their way after Pornography. I was lucky enough to see them a few times and they were always great, one band I'd love to see again now. Simon's bass playing is up there with Peter Hook, magnificent.
@@tompoynton I thought in the interview the bass dude looked a bit sketchy, or perhaps pre gig nerves ie stop asking questions let us crack on . Or maybe just speed hmm
Bootlegs from this era are all tweaked out . Youth , whizz , green and a few Carlsberg Special Brews ... get it to a science in the rehearsal room ... " here " . P.S. Thanks for sharing ! 36 + years listening to all kinds of bootlegs and whatnot from this band ... had never seen this , cheers !
The best part is when the interviewer asked how they play with only 3 people. Lol says, "It's a bit of a surprise, Simon plays a little, Robert plays a little and.." Simon cuts him off and says "Well, it's not a surprise anymore is it?"
Dude this is awesome first time seeing this for me. Will always be one of my all time favorite bands. Love and know every song not done watching on yet so don't know my fav on this set yet
When I think I've already heard all the stupid questions journalists are capable of: "We are the Cure of the eighties, not Pink Floyd". Great respect for 21-years old Robert.
Surrounded by deadheads and metalheads, a few kids in the city and on the fringe got into the Cure. Glad I was one. These days it's so easy to be cool.
@@deanesamuelporter9369 Robert’s super fast downpicked playing with that super metallic trebly chorus tone in the early 80s has to be one of the most unique guitar sounds I’ve heard, super hard to replicate
so understated, did they know how fuckin mega huge they‘d become with Robert‘s distinctive vocals and melody writing.Hear the high base, bits of Joy Division inspiration..?
A FOREST : THE MASTERPIECE OF THE CURE. HAUNTING SOUND OF THEIR MUSIC. I STILL LOVE THEM. ROBERT SMITH ALWAYS USED TO BE SO CREATIVE & experimental ( Sorry for my bad english) a true fan of the CURE since I was a teenager
@@marblegirl1678 it's very kind of you friend. Love your language. Love UK for a lot of very good artists who came from ! So many singers & bands ! Congrats. (UK : Bowie, QUEEN & Freddie Mercury, Kate Bush, U2 (Ireland), Placebo, the BEATLES !!! The Rolling Stones and so on... The greatest come from your country ! You can be joyfull ! Friendly from France 🙂👍
Art is art... painting, music, whatever. Liking this Cure over the band they would be 10 years later is like being a fan of early Van Gogh paintings over the crazy good paintings he did in his last 4 or 5 years. This was a strong start for any band... Head on the Door is where they graduated to their own sound and released 4 or 5 straight perfect albums thereafter with no filler. This Cure is Van Gogh's Potato Eaters. Disintegration, Kiss Me, and Wish are Van Gogh's Irises and Sunflowers. Awesome evolution.
Nice analogy! I love all of The Cure's albums... their sound definitely evolved, but there is something untamed and raw in their early music that just energises and makes me feel young. :)
@@jeffconn I only found out about another journey by train because of a clip of jumping someone else’s train and took me a year to find another journey until I gave the b side compilation a chance and it was I think number 7 on there near there and it’s just a great song sadly it’s the b side of A forest which is super expensive to get
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Band of my life, love on 1st listening. Im 53. And love same from start.
Unbelievable that The Cure made the track A Forest 42 years ago. A serious and sophisticated harbinger of things to come in The Cure sound. Such an amazing track for such young lads.......
Still on o my fav.... Cheers
These are great artists, very few deserve that title, because their mastery transcends age, style and other earthly things.
@@daveydudely9954 Obviously you aren't a Cure fan. On behalf of all of us who are.... may we extend our sincere condolences.
@@daveydudely9954 But it grooves, and that taps into something just as essential about music as Beethoven was. Beethoven expressed himself with the harmonic language of his culture instead of the groovy aspects of The Cure's culture, but the genius is the same.
It's just as unbelievable that Chuck Berry wrote Roll Over Beethoven sometime during the fifties because hs sister liked to play classical piano stuff...
C'mon man wake up: artists write stuff and it lasts forever, nothing unbelievable in that.
This is my favorite interview where Robert says, "We're not the Pink Floyd of the 80's, we're The Cure of the 80's"
First time I played seventeen seconds i thought pink floyd influenced them
@@SpacemanSmee I'm sure Robert listened to the Floyd back then.
“Cause they got no imagination, probably”
That's right😉👌!!!
Seventeen seconds Is called the first song?
A FOREST a masterpiece of sound and writing,
The bass here is just amazing
They're so tight.
They're always amazing; especially sexy Simon! 💋
yes Simon is one of the world's brilliant underrated musicians and they are always killer live!~
@@AlexAlcyone His bass lines were so simple, yet elegant, fun and serving the song. Like Pictures of you, or Disintegration. Pure genius.
@@cesarg4328 yep. the Epitome of cool as well. A true rock star.
I love finding random videos by The Cure that I have yet to see. Thanks for posting!!
Robert Smith knew how to handle the obnoxious press even back then. What a treasure time capsule this whole video is.
Too bad he didn't take better care of himself. I guess he figured he wouldn't be around this long.
i dont think the press was very obnoxious, just mundane, and the cure gang were already bored of having to do those things before shows, as all acts are. still, they answered everything asked and fairly.
Desperate journalist? Crazy fun song.
I totally agree😉😍
"We are The Cure of the eighties"
I remember hearing A Forest in early 1982 when I was a high school freshman and wanting to like it so much, but I just didn’t. I wasn’t ready. Then I heard the album Pornography at a party when I graduated high school in 1985 and it changed everything for me. Just about everything I listen to now can be traced back to the way that album hit me at that party a little over 36 years ago. I’ll always love The Cure.
I've been a Cure fan since the 80s and I have to admit that I never really got Pornography. The album never appealed to me that much. It's always cool to hear someone rank it highly in terms of their important Cure albums.
@Ron Kelly I can understand that. Pornography is very dark, and that definitely has limited appeal. But I love how they vacillate between dark and light & bouncy music. After Pornography, they put out singles like “The Walk” and the album The Head On the Door. They followed Disintegration with “Friday I’m in Love”. The Cure have something for everybody.
@@nicemosaics lsd got me hooked on Pornography but I can certainly empathize. Back then, I was very much into Faith/Carnage Visors but “the Walk EP” was IT for me back then.
@@Bnewruck Robert Smith was also taking large amounts of LSD at the time of the Disintegration (as well as Pornography)...
Can`t believe it`s 42 years ago...............................man I feel old !!!!!!
Fantastic Time and rebellious times above all; little remains of the old school; just resist what is coming at us.
1979-1983. the best of The Cure.
from the start they were something else. love the early cure.
God, Robert sings with SUCH an English accent! That edge isn't so striking in 2021. Still the best band around! ❤️
That has always been really appealing to me about his singing.
Thank you for saving this. What a gem!
I love Robert's answer to the album question. The spot where he cracks a genuine smile is thinking about all the amazing music he has in the works for us! That's the look of a passionate songwriter.
And the performance? Absolute confidence. Love it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was the original Cure... not the painted circus of commercial production geared towards new wave/gothic scene that creeped in when Lovecats arrived. Once the producers$ grabbed hold of them it became all about appealing hooks and looks rather than their original music...so it goes.
@@c.anderson3444 A bit harsh, no?
@@JAOB1968 They had it good musically before Robert & co. wigged out to the commercial scene...but then they got what they really wanted ...billboard and $$$$. The music took a dive...same as with Echo and also Banshees
@@c.anderson3444 i don't think that's true lol. they wigged out to the comercial scene by doing a experimental style of music that to this day it doesn't please everyone?
This is fucking AWESOME. Robert was such a baby here... He and the music almost unrecognizable a few years later. A Forest is an absolute favorite of mine, and to think it was written the year I was born. This band truly defined alternative music... What stamina it took to play at that tempo for so long, too! ❤️
Lol is such an underrated drummer - the tempo on A Forest is a forest fire. We used to cover this song in the 80s and it ran about 165bpm - this is faster.
This is legendary in so many ways. Thanks for sharing, it’s fantastic to find gems like this on youtube !
Simon Gallup is one of my influences in bass playing (Hooky as well etc).....Great player..
I love this early Cure era.....and have done since 1980....
this is whats its all about, raw, classic, dark, plain ol' knock out wave music! this video is a treasure. I want more of this in my life!
The Cure have done, what most, [if not all] great bands through history are incapable of doing later in their career's....and that is to put out a great release past the age of 30. The latest release by the Cure in 2024.....44 years after this video was made, is a testament to the Cure's creativity, genius and passion for the music they Love. The Cure never sold out..........
So, back in 80, I hear this for the first time. I completely lost it. Fan since.
Robert Smith was preborn talented. And with each passing day he got better.
He's an insane talent. Not just musically, but in his ability to bring the best people together, let them come and go, and let the music go on. Listen to The Top. That was when Simon was out of the band. Robert does all the bass, guitar, and singing on that album, and it's amazing.
@@alukuhito bananafishbones
Yes, born with the talent.
Yes
@@CMZIEBARTH talent is developed through practice no one is born with talent
We hear Robert Smith's voice, but coming out of some fresh face, short haired straight kid! What a great sound all around -- and so much more to come. I saw them this year in Austin Texas, smallish venue, they were on fire, what a night
Robert says things in this interview that he'll unknowingly have to explain for the rest of his life! ❤️
he has no reason to explain himself , no one does
Wow.Raw stripped down awesomeness!Smiths guitar work is AMAZING..and of course his vocal!!
His guitarwork is full of mistakes and sounds thin... fck Fender Jaguar forever. Although back then it was just another guitar, nowadays only hipsters play them.
Got this on bootleg for more than 25 years… nice to see it in video. Interview is nice too.
Love, love, love this! I have been a fan for 40 years 🌷
Outstanding live performance! What a tempo?! What a bass?!
It’s amazing how Simon basically looks the same now as he did then...
No.
Lol Tollhurst looks like shit
Just the bass got lower!
But in between though... The funny hairdos, the big hat, the make-up, ...
hes about 4 times bigger
Fantastic ! I first saw the Cure on the Head on The Door Tour in Detroit. New Order and Gene Loves Jezebel were the warmup bands. What a great band I was lucky to follow my entire youth all the way to this time. It's quite sad actually hearing these songs played at their young age. It makes me yearn to be young again. Getting old sucks at times. I get depressed at times listening to the Cure now. Back in the day that never happened.
You’re not alone mate…
A killer combo. Of course New Order are worthy of headlining themselves.
Bellos los 3 , the cure por siempre , adoro sus canciones , talento.
I love you robert you are your own legend and always knew your worth and yet still had a humble soul..I adore you always
Thanks a lot for this video! I saw this live on Countdown, many, many years ago. I still am a Cure fan, even after all those years.
Awesome look back...thanks for the ride.
The extended Jumping outro w Robert chord-jam future Siouxie era solo that the band knows exactly where he is and ends like a brick wall is definite smile. I’ll always love the slightly more lucid early Robt Smith.
2:40 10:15 Saturday night
6:00 Jumping in someone Else's Train
11:28 Grinding Halt
13:47 A forest
Its not grinding halt, its a instrumental song they did, cant remember the name
Or rather it is, but there is a song between
@@jimbombadill "Another Journey By Train" is between "Jumping Someone Else's Train" and "Grinding Halt".
Grinding Halt 😍
@@denniskruit1704 Man I wish i was born in the 80's. Nobody in my age group listens to this kind of music. ;(
The pearls of Marble Girl. It' s amazing!
this is gold. thanks
ive had this tape since 83.. from a radio station
i love you the cure so much memories omg what a great band
Amazing performance!!!! Esto vale oro, GRACIAS!!!!
Thanks. Takes me right back to when I heard A Forest for the first time.
I saw them in Leeds December 6th 2022.
Thankyou for sharing this brilliant piece of art.
Tolhurst makes the drums sound exactly as they should be.
I love the raw energy of this ...
As they should be for this era, simple and unsophisticated
Whether he was a dick or not, The Cure's best music was when he was in the band.
@@youjoker9647 sharp and swift sound. 👍
He really was a great drummer. The move first to keyboards and then into drunkenness didn't suit him as much.
Jumping Someone Else's Train was my first Cure record, knew then they'd go to greatness, though for me lost their way after Pornography. I was lucky enough to see them a few times and they were always great, one band I'd love to see again now. Simon's bass playing is up there with Peter Hook, magnificent.
i’d say they after disintegration, because of the songs disintegration, lullaby, fascination st and pictures of you
I love this. Thank you so much for sharing!! I’ve prob watched it like 20x…helps when u can’t sleep 😁
And look how far the Cure has come all these years .. I worked with them in 1981 in Christchurch N.Z .
Please tell us more!
Yes, please?!!!
What where they like
@@thunder_heads I second that! Don’t leave us hanging!! Haha!!! 😒😉
Thanks for uploading this concert, this devine recording of theire visit in Holland
Just brilliant! Thank you for this gem.
What a great gig , especially cuz they played tunes a bit high in tempo , that's fire
no that’s speed
@@tompoynton That was Lol Tolhurst always playing too fast live.
@@tompoynton I thought in the interview the bass dude looked a bit sketchy, or perhaps pre gig nerves ie stop asking questions let us crack on .
Or maybe just speed hmm
Bootlegs from this era are all tweaked out . Youth , whizz , green and a few Carlsberg Special Brews ... get it to a science in the rehearsal room ... " here " .
P.S. Thanks for sharing ! 36 + years listening to all kinds of bootlegs and whatnot from this band ... had never seen this , cheers !
The best part is when the interviewer asked how they play with only 3 people. Lol says, "It's a bit of a surprise, Simon plays a little, Robert plays a little and.." Simon cuts him off and says "Well, it's not a surprise anymore is it?"
He asked how they’d play piano with no keys player
Dude this is awesome first time seeing this for me. Will always be one of my all time favorite bands. Love and know every song not done watching on yet so don't know my fav on this set yet
Absolutely Fantabulous! Thanks so much for posting 😘
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic quality. Always good to see this early stuff and rare to see Simon make mistakes. Thank you.
He's only human.
Robert makes several also, and one even at the same time as Simon! 😀
@@RastaSaiyaman - Are you sure? People had often wondered if Neil Peart was actually human, and Simon is 'the Neil Peart of Bass'! 😄
Robert makes mistakes all the time. Simon is a robot.
I don’t see how y’all can hear any mistakes I don’t listen to music that close i guess it just sounds good to me👏
Em 1986 The Cure esteve no Brasil em São Paulo, onde tive o privilégio de ver essa banda espetacular...
I wish their next album could be as raw and emotional as these songs.
When I think I've already heard all the stupid questions journalists are capable of: "We are the Cure of the eighties, not Pink Floyd". Great respect for 21-years old Robert.
So so young & just at the musical stage before they invented more of a stage presence- stripped down- love this-
😲 wow what a gem thanks for posting 💐💐
SPOILER ALERT: A Forest starts at 13:43......
Never really listened to the cure but holy shit they sound awesome live!
Remember when kids would say: OK Boomer, to comments like this? I'd never say that.
Cause....just cause. But...ummm...
@@Bhatt_HoleUmmmm... Huh? Lol
This is the foundation of The Cure right here, Robert, Simon and Lol ❤❤❤
I love THIS!! I was 11 years old when this come out.
Puta show! Estou viciado, todos os dias eu vejo e curto demais esse show! Parece que estou no palco, vendo ao vivo!!! 2021! The Cure!!!
He sounds just like the Album. Amazing!
Unas de las bandas mas completas de mi epoca.guitarra bajo i bateria i vos juvenil de eso entonces
Michael‘s lines are amazing...
So great to see early Cure before they blew up.
Love this version of a Forest. The Cure exist on another orbit
Lol’s drumming is always so spot on. A perfect match to Robert’s strumming.
Just brilliant - thanks so much!
You're very welcome :)
It does not get better than this.
Thank you so much for posting this :)
This version of AJBT is absolutely incredible.
Pazzeschi❤!!! Una canzone più bella (è riduttivo!) dell'altra 🎉❤🎉❤🎉
Jumping Somebody Else's Train, Saturday Night and Grinding Holt, especially A Forest were my jam from 1992 onwards 😁👍
I love goth Cure, I love alt rock Cure, but I'll always love post punk Cure best. Great vid, thanks for the upload.
Que maravilha de achado já ta na minha playlist
Great stuff. Thanks for the upload 👍
"We're The Cure of the eighties" 🖤
straight out of the gate such mature artists
Years of work behind that you’re not seeing.
@@joeltunnah from my remark i believe i do
That beat... It's too much... I have to move. Those words. I have to go.That beat, it grabs me again. I can't stop
Holland knew something about this band about a decade before the rest of the world did. Interesting.
Surrounded by deadheads and metalheads, a few kids in the city and on the fringe got into the Cure. Glad I was one. These days it's so easy to be cool.
That Jazzmaster sounds great
With the Woolworths top 10 pick up added. Unique sound
@@youjoker9647 he never used it in the studio. He used it a bit live though.
Shit hot! super tight playing too
@@deanesamuelporter9369 yeah give me this over pentatonic riff noodling any day
@@deanesamuelporter9369 Robert’s super fast downpicked playing with that super metallic trebly chorus tone in the early 80s has to be one of the most unique guitar sounds I’ve heard, super hard to replicate
so understated, did they know how fuckin mega huge they‘d become with Robert‘s distinctive vocals and melody writing.Hear the high base, bits of Joy Division inspiration..?
For the fucks sake , these tunes came before joy division's debut album
@@david_post_punk Robert and Simon both said they were influenced by JD after tour with them as support.
I was just thinking that, wondering if they had any idea how massive they were going to be.
Robert Smith sempre foi um profissional reservado a imprensa.
Wow !! music history and education clash....everybody around, millions, like that..
simply fantastic
The Cure is one of the most best bands 70/80s.
Punk, new wave pop ...
Steel today.
But.... Cure.
Awesome peace of History 🥰👍
LOL Best drummer for Cure sound.
Thank you for sharing
This is amazing
A FOREST : THE MASTERPIECE OF THE CURE. HAUNTING SOUND OF THEIR MUSIC. I STILL LOVE THEM. ROBERT SMITH ALWAYS USED TO BE SO CREATIVE & experimental ( Sorry for my bad english) a true fan of the CURE since I was a teenager
Nothing wrong with your English :) I wish I could say the same about my French lol
@@marblegirl1678 it's very kind of you friend. Love your language. Love UK for a lot of very good artists who came from ! So many singers & bands ! Congrats. (UK : Bowie, QUEEN & Freddie Mercury, Kate Bush, U2 (Ireland), Placebo, the BEATLES !!! The Rolling Stones and so on... The greatest come from your country ! You can be joyfull ! Friendly from France 🙂👍
@@janiquevaillot8554 I'm actually Australian :D Thank you for your kind comment! (And I do love France xx)
Art is art... painting, music, whatever. Liking this Cure over the band they would be 10 years later is like being a fan of early Van Gogh paintings over the crazy good paintings he did in his last 4 or 5 years. This was a strong start for any band... Head on the Door is where they graduated to their own sound and released 4 or 5 straight perfect albums thereafter with no filler. This Cure is Van Gogh's Potato Eaters. Disintegration, Kiss Me, and Wish are Van Gogh's Irises and Sunflowers. Awesome evolution.
Faith and Pornography are both perfect
Nice analogy! I love all of The Cure's albums... their sound definitely evolved, but there is something untamed and raw in their early music that just energises and makes me feel young. :)
2:40 10:15 Saturday night
6:00 Jumping in someone Else's Train
11:28 Grinding Halt
13:47 A forest
That's "Jumping Someone Else's Train/Another Journey By Train" in a medley which the band did on occasion back then.
@@jeffconn good man.
@@jeffconn I only found out about another journey by train because of a clip of jumping someone else’s train and took me a year to find another journey until I gave the b side compilation a chance and it was I think number 7 on there near there and it’s just a great song sadly it’s the b side of A forest which is super expensive to get
Grinding Halt is such a good song
AWESOME GIG AND TIMES IN AMSTERDAM
And I was at that time in the Netherlands near Amsterdam!