You are comparing apples, oranges and pears. In order to do it right, you have to do the exact same electronics(including the batteries and tx)on all 3 builds.
@amain_hobbies_2 this all of this. I get that these look to be personal rigs of the staff but we can't anything from this video. And saying they were easy to drive doesn't help either. The team needs to be way more descriptive of what "easy" means. Loving the effort but please refine so you can help us make a $1000 decision easier.
The Tekno EB2.1 is my favorite of the 3. I have driven all of them this year. The Tekno simply gives me a lot of confidence when trying to hit those lap times over and over again. Beeing consistent is easy with this Buggy. It does have a huge amount of steering and you do need to adjust the steering amount (Rate in Transmitter. We have a very technical track with sharp turns, but i still turn down the steering to 80%. What i like most, is the on power control with the buggy. Going full throttle into fast corners with any problemes. Its made for fast laptimes for sure and it is still one of the most durable and strongest RC cars on the market.
I would like to see a Kyosho, and a TLR in this comparison. If you add the Xray, then you can compare the pillow ball cars and the c-hub cars separately (or all together). Awesome job overall. I really enjoy the videos.
I would love to see the X-ray team edition in the mix. I think it would be better if you did a warm up in each car before you do your testing and save your review/opinion till done.
I would have liked to see the Losi and Xray in there too. Do a big comparison video using bone stock cars and all using same tires, motor/esc combo and batteries. Would provide a good picture of the cars capabilities out of the box
Just built my EB48 2.1 with hobbywing sensors setup. I can’t get over how smooth the power delivery is on the buggy. Excited to get mine on the track soon
Nice video!!! right now I've saved some money for a 1/8 ebuggy and I'm torn between the tekno and kyosho's mp10e tki2. What worries me most is that everyone says the tekno is kinda hard to drive out of the box and, as I'm new in 1/8 offroad, I would like an easy to drive car to start.
I love your channel I’m learning with every watch. I’m thinking of getting into the hobby but there are so many to choose from. I guess they’re all pretty similar for a newbie. I was thinking of a Kyosho inferno MP9e RTR
I've done that exactly, and went for the MP9e Evo RTR. What I can say is: If you plan on racing and have the budget, go for a PRO car instead of a RTR. The amount of money you'll spend on replacement parts and upgrades to make the RTR truly race-ready easily goes over the price of a PRO kit. Been there, done that. Other thing that helps is to run a car that most people on your track/region runs, so you have an easy way to compare and share setups and all that...
Just getting into rc world and racing seems great a little intimidating puting these kits together and trying to decide what to upgrade? or what is needed? i will watch more vids as i really want to get into this will probably start off with some basic kits before i jump into these 800-1000 builds . these are awesome vids
Hey brother just build any kit name brand that your local hobby shop supports...set up to kit specifics in the manual and enjoy it ..most upgrades are only needed for a seasoned racer
In my opinion as an AE driver, running the emulsion shock setup instead of the stock bladder setup makes the car much more comfortable on tracks like that with big rhythm sections. I really like running the FT tapered angled 8x1.3 pistons with emulsion gaskets on my nitro car, I would suggest trying the 8x1.2 pistons on the ebuggy with emulsion gaskets.
wich combos you suggest? i just built mine not sure if going with tekin 1900 or 2050 and rx3 or hobbywing combos. I had tekin on my sc410sl and i like but hear hobbywing is damn good.
@@MaxDellOrco Those are the two best names. Fo my style of driving and the tracks I drive on, I always prefer a 1900kv motor (either the Tekin T8 4030 or the Hobbywing Xerun 4268). ESC wise, match them up either the RX8 Gen 3 or the XR8 Pro. Both are great, but I always like a Tekin system in my 1/8th scales and Hobbywing for my 1/10th scales for some reason.
I know this is an older video and i havent read the comments but did you notice the exact even weight distribution of the mugen at 50% f/r ad l/r? 1:08
Definitely add the new Kyosho in the mix and as a standard use HobbyWing electronics for all, they're the best in my opinion and run box stock setups on all to keep it even playing field.
This is awesome. I know it’s a huge undertaking, but having multi brand comparison videos for various classes would be amazing. Reminds me of the articles in motocross magazines back in the day. They’d have multiple riders of various skill levels ride the bikes and rate them in various categories with a points system. Maybe some day RC brands would sponsor such an effort. I think it would create a lot of interest. And Ebuggy seems like the perfect place to start. Love the video!
Do x-ray hot bodies and tlr really liked this video! Makes me make my decision a lot easier... AE! That's what all my race stuff is for 1/10 scale so I guess it was an easy choice anyway lol thanks guys
Second part as continuation of this series. Include a Losi 8ight Elite Xe and Kyosho MP10e. There are others, but those 5 are going to frequently be top considerations for many people.
Nice track but tough to gauge car position near the far back there guess it takes some getting used to. Wish there were more tracks like that where I am in Ontario, Canada.
@@AMain_Hobbies_2 hi Brett. can I ask you as an expert which esc you would choose for the Hobbywing 2268 1900 kv G3 motor ? the Xerun XR8 SCT or the XR8 pro G3 ? and what difference is there ?
@@michaelgravlund9194You're right, my mistake. In that case, either unit should work fine. I believe the SCT version is a little smaller in size over the regular XR8, not sure of other changes. -Brett
Got you guys the silver dollar track it pretty close to me ive always owend team Associated cars 10th scale electric used to race when i was a kid every weeked for like 10 years Fliyn Bryin was my race name 👊🇺🇸💪🙌🚗 I knew some pro drivers back in the day Rick Velow Team Associated
I'm a fan of HoBao, and since im not competing in RC races, i just bought myself a new HoBao Hyper VS2 150 amp RTR version. I like the quality build and finish quality of the RTR HoBao VS2 .
Mugen was the easiest to drive, but it also had a proper pro setup on it. With the proper setup on the Tekno or AE, I imagine they'd be equally as comfortable. A more skilled driver may prefer more steering from the AE or Tekno, where newbs like me need a more comfortable/balanced car. -Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies_2 be good to see them all again with pro setups on and same HW equipment. To me the Mugen looked the most hooked up which made sense with the Drake setup on
@@Luke-en2tk Yeah, if we did this again, I think they'd need all the same electronics, all bound to my transmitter. That would be best to eliminate those extra variables I think. -Brett
An old Airtronics/Sanwa M11X. Sadly, they don't make it anymore. It was actually mine for many years, but I sold it to the guy who had the AE car a few months back. After a lifelong journey with Sanwa, I personally bought a 10PX and I love it. -Brett
It's under the Resources tab on the MBX8R ECO product page on our site. But here is a direct link: images.amainhobbies.com/images/resources/MUGE2028/Setup%20Sheets/3-MUGE2028%20Mugen%20MBX8R%20ECO%20Off-Road%20Electric%20Buggy%20Setup%20Sheet%20-%20Adam%20Drake%20DNC%202021%20Setup.pdf -Brett
double lipo 🤮 The best choice on the market at the moment is HB racong e819rs for driveability competitiveness and price. The worst maybe is kyosho for materials,double lipo and price
What? No the chassis doesn’t weigh more than other cars. No need for that. The weight comes from other stuff, move to the Arrma older motor mount and battery tray, change to titanium links and use Mugen pillow balls, even move to carbon fiber shock towers and you’ll find it will weigh much closer to other cars. Also use cvd on rears instead of dog bones
Stock Typhon TRL is so much more durable than these 3 since is stock out of the box as more of a basher. I think the Losi is around 3300 out of the box. As mentioned there is ALOT of extra weight on it to increase the durability. I think my Typhon TRL came in around 3340 with hobbywing electronics. That said I am changing over to a Mugen for this year. I prefer the pillow ball to the C hub so that put the Techno out and wanted something that wasnt AE. A bit worried about spares on the Mugen since my area is heavy AE and Techno.
@@yonicozac . Oh yeah nice.. yes I'm looking to.get the carbon towers, and titanium pillow ball just two I hear the mugen mbx7 middle driveshaft, and kyosho mp10 rear shafts fit. Not sure about the front. But dang those stock shafts are heavy..
You really should do a bone stock comparison with same tires, batteries and electronics to really give a better picture. The cars were way too different, yiu want to compare CARS not ones personal setup on that car.
Best content would be: build car, spend a week or two at the track dialing it in, record best 3-5 laps with it. Rinse and repeat for each car/kit. Everything that can be kept the same (Rx/Tx, batteries, servo, ESC #sponsorship) should be. I think it gives a better review product where you don't feel like you have to walk on eggshells (aka "they all feel pretty good"), could allow you to monetize part of the content, and can instead talk about the dynamics of the car and we can look at lap times (like old school Top Gear). Make a final video that summarizes the whole thing: cover the build (quality, bug-a-boos, tips etc.), talks to tuning for the specific track (changes vs box stock), touches on times and then overall ownership review. Mothball the car and later down the road you can come back to it, add performance parts or some "change" and do a whole 'nother video.
You are comparing apples, oranges and pears. In order to do it right, you have to do the exact same electronics(including the batteries and tx)on all 3 builds.
Agree on that 😄👍
@amain_hobbies_2 this all of this. I get that these look to be personal rigs of the staff but we can't anything from this video. And saying they were easy to drive doesn't help either. The team needs to be way more descriptive of what "easy" means. Loving the effort but please refine so you can help us make a $1000 decision easier.
The Tekno EB2.1 is my favorite of the 3. I have driven all of them this year. The Tekno simply gives me a lot of confidence when trying to hit those lap times over and over again. Beeing consistent is easy with this Buggy. It does have a huge amount of steering and you do need to adjust the steering amount (Rate in Transmitter. We have a very technical track with sharp turns, but i still turn down the steering to 80%. What i like most, is the on power control with the buggy. Going full throttle into fast corners with any problemes. Its made for fast laptimes for sure and it is still one of the most durable and strongest RC cars on the market.
I would like to see a Kyosho, and a TLR in this comparison. If you add the Xray, then you can compare the pillow ball cars and the c-hub cars separately (or all together). Awesome job overall. I really enjoy the videos.
I would love to see the X-ray team edition in the mix. I think it would be better if you did a warm up in each car before you do your testing and save your review/opinion till done.
I would have liked to see the Losi and Xray in there too. Do a big comparison video using bone stock cars and all using same tires, motor/esc combo and batteries.
Would provide a good picture of the cars capabilities out of the box
Just built my EB48 2.1 with hobbywing sensors setup. I can’t get over how smooth the power delivery is on the buggy. Excited to get mine on the track soon
You've lost some serious weight! Good for you! 👍 Keep it up.
seriously! compared to videos from years ago he's looking much better!
Thanks guys! Gave up sugar and never felt better.
-Brett
5:50 - certified "you have to press the spacebar, or the lap will not count" moment.
Perhaps the front mid mounted motor helps the Associated turn better? The initial turn in reaction was very noticeable
it seems the more upright pillowball hub is offering that additional steering
Great vid! Definitely want more content like this. Keep it coming!
Great video! Reminds me of dirt bike shootouts as a kid. Keep ‘em coming👍🏻
Man, that balance on the Mugen. *chef's kiss*
Great job love comparison vids like this. I'm bias toward AE but I like to see what's good with the other top brands.
Glad to see you guys did electric and not just Nitro. I'm an electric guy myself. Nitro is the glory, but E buggy does pay the bills!
This couldn't have dropped at a better time for me. Lol Love your videos.
Thanks bro for the video, so say I'm a newbie what car would you get out of all 3?
Nice video!!! right now I've saved some money for a 1/8 ebuggy and I'm torn between the tekno and kyosho's mp10e tki2. What worries me most is that everyone says the tekno is kinda hard to drive out of the box and, as I'm new in 1/8 offroad, I would like an easy to drive car to start.
Exactly the three buggies I have or an considering buying... Nice job!
Love this video. Comparisons are my favorite.
I love your channel I’m learning with every watch. I’m thinking of getting into the hobby but there are so many to choose from. I guess they’re all pretty similar for a newbie. I was thinking of a Kyosho inferno MP9e RTR
I've done that exactly, and went for the MP9e Evo RTR. What I can say is: If you plan on racing and have the budget, go for a PRO car instead of a RTR. The amount of money you'll spend on replacement parts and upgrades to make the RTR truly race-ready easily goes over the price of a PRO kit. Been there, done that.
Other thing that helps is to run a car that most people on your track/region runs, so you have an easy way to compare and share setups and all that...
Just getting into rc world and racing seems great a little intimidating puting these kits together and trying to decide what to upgrade? or what is needed? i will watch more vids as i really want to get into this will probably start off with some basic kits before i jump into these 800-1000 builds . these are awesome vids
Hey brother just build any kit name brand that your local hobby shop supports...set up to kit specifics in the manual and enjoy it ..most upgrades are only needed for a seasoned racer
Flipping wicked show B💯🙏🏿😎
I'd like to see a setup series where you discuss all aspects of tuning
Excellent work guys
In my opinion as an AE driver, running the emulsion shock setup instead of the stock bladder setup makes the car much more comfortable on tracks like that with big rhythm sections. I really like running the FT tapered angled 8x1.3 pistons with emulsion gaskets on my nitro car, I would suggest trying the 8x1.2 pistons on the ebuggy with emulsion gaskets.
Great video, what is the best choice for mbx8r ? Xr8 plus g2s or Xr8 pro G3? Thanks
Awesome comparison
I’ve driven them all including the TLR and I’m still a fan of the Tekno overall. #teknotakeover
Hey Rich! Thanks for the input.
-Brett
I also like the tekno 2.1 the most.
wich combos you suggest? i just built mine not sure if going with tekin 1900 or 2050 and rx3 or hobbywing combos. I had tekin on my sc410sl and i like but hear hobbywing is damn good.
@@MaxDellOrco Those are the two best names. Fo my style of driving and the tracks I drive on, I always prefer a 1900kv motor (either the Tekin T8 4030 or the Hobbywing Xerun 4268). ESC wise, match them up either the RX8 Gen 3 or the XR8 Pro. Both are great, but I always like a Tekin system in my 1/8th scales and Hobbywing for my 1/10th scales for some reason.
Hey Rich. Really miss your videos Sir. I hope you are doing awesome.
I know this is an older video and i havent read the comments but did you notice the exact even weight distribution of the mugen at 50% f/r ad l/r? 1:08
hello great video. it would be very nice if you made more videos like this one where you make comparisons with various brands of machines
Definitely add the new Kyosho in the mix and as a standard use HobbyWing electronics for all, they're the best in my opinion and run box stock setups on all to keep it even playing field.
Can you do a truggy video?
This is awesome. I know it’s a huge undertaking, but having multi brand comparison videos for various classes would be amazing. Reminds me of the articles in motocross magazines back in the day. They’d have multiple riders of various skill levels ride the bikes and rate them in various categories with a points system. Maybe some day RC brands would sponsor such an effort. I think it would create a lot of interest. And Ebuggy seems like the perfect place to start.
Love the video!
Do x-ray hot bodies and tlr really liked this video! Makes me make my decision a lot easier... AE! That's what all my race stuff is for 1/10 scale so I guess it was an easy choice anyway lol thanks guys
Second part as continuation of this series. Include a Losi 8ight Elite Xe and Kyosho MP10e. There are others, but those 5 are going to frequently be top considerations for many people.
do you recal which drake set up was on the mugen?
Yes, would love more focus on racing… if we could convert just a few bashers here and there it would be good.
Nice track but tough to gauge car position near the far back there guess it takes some getting used to. Wish there were more tracks like that where I am in Ontario, Canada.
Nice video . Thanks for sharing. Gives me a good input to choose. I could go with the Tekno and a Hobbywing combo 1900 kv 4268 / xerun XR8 sct.
The Hobbywing combo's are really nice, definitely recommended.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies_2 hi Brett. can I ask you as an expert which esc you would choose for the Hobbywing 2268 1900 kv G3 motor ? the Xerun XR8 SCT or the XR8 pro G3 ? and what difference is there ?
@@michaelgravlund9194 The SCT version is not 4S compatible where the G3 Pro is. If this is for a 1/8 buggy, you'll want that 4S compatibility.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies_2 well I am not sure if that is correct. it says 2-4 s on the unit
@@michaelgravlund9194You're right, my mistake. In that case, either unit should work fine. I believe the SCT version is a little smaller in size over the regular XR8, not sure of other changes.
-Brett
We need TLR Kyosho Serpent and HB Racing in there as well
Yep a comparison with all 7 using same tires and electronics would be epic.
looks like an awesome track.
Got you guys the silver dollar track it pretty close to me ive always owend team Associated cars 10th scale electric used to race when i was a kid every weeked for like 10 years Fliyn Bryin was my race name 👊🇺🇸💪🙌🚗 I knew some pro drivers back in the day Rick Velow Team Associated
Sweet, come one out if you get a chance. We'll have a dirt 1/10 track back up and running soon. We also have the dirt oval they race weekly.
-Brett
how's the serpent biggy kit compare you think wanted to get one
Honestly, no idea, I've never tried one. I'm sure they're great cars but have never had the opportunity to drive one.
-Brett
Awesome video!!
After moving on from hobby grade, I race every week.
Awesome content.🤙
Party on Garth❤
I wish 1/10th scale manufacturers offered the same durable rear wings.
I'm a fan of HoBao, and since im not competing in RC races, i just bought myself a new HoBao Hyper VS2 150 amp RTR version. I like the quality build and finish quality of the RTR HoBao VS2 .
The chassis and shock towers are made from kraft cheese!!
i like, me gusta tu video, sigue así
Electric truggy comparison, maybe a random like sworkz, hot bodies and Xray
Without same electronics it’s not really a challenge can’t learn much.
No prep drag car build and shoot out would be cool.
Which one was your favorite, has to be one, cant say all.🎉 cheers!
Mugen was the easiest to drive, but it also had a proper pro setup on it. With the proper setup on the Tekno or AE, I imagine they'd be equally as comfortable. A more skilled driver may prefer more steering from the AE or Tekno, where newbs like me need a more comfortable/balanced car.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies_2 be good to see them all again with pro setups on and same HW equipment. To me the Mugen looked the most hooked up which made sense with the Drake setup on
@@Luke-en2tk Yeah, if we did this again, I think they'd need all the same electronics, all bound to my transmitter. That would be best to eliminate those extra variables I think.
-Brett
Include the kyosho mp9E
bring some monster trucks on the track!!!
Noooo
What happened to the carpet track?
They removed it for the time being. The oval will be a part of the Nationals track layout. It's pretty sweet.
-Brett
Which of these cars sells and produces the most ? And parts availability?
I wish u drive WRC that Ryan drives it drives different thin any other pillow ball I have drive
This may be the least useful side by side comparison I have ever seen.
What transmitter were you using on the AE
An old Airtronics/Sanwa M11X. Sadly, they don't make it anymore. It was actually mine for many years, but I sold it to the guy who had the AE car a few months back. After a lifelong journey with Sanwa, I personally bought a 10PX and I love it.
-Brett
TLR vs HB
Yes, good ones to add.
-Brett
there all diff setups?but.Love that you did ELECTRIC video i run Ebuggy/Nitro buggy glad to see sum EBUGGY!!!!!
He lost some weight. Good for him
7:31 seemed like the AE car was wayyyyy harder to drive, like not even comparable. 8:05 only 1 car had a castle system. 🙄
Anyone know what radio he’s using at 6:15 ?
It's an older Airtronics/Sanwa M11X. They stopped making it a long time ago.
-Brett
Where can I find the Adam drake setup?
It's under the Resources tab on the MBX8R ECO product page on our site. But here is a direct link: images.amainhobbies.com/images/resources/MUGE2028/Setup%20Sheets/3-MUGE2028%20Mugen%20MBX8R%20ECO%20Off-Road%20Electric%20Buggy%20Setup%20Sheet%20-%20Adam%20Drake%20DNC%202021%20Setup.pdf
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies_2 Thank you Brett! dont know how i missed the resource tab. love your content and thanks!
Google
My God send me one here in Brazil!!
three ee buggies, threebuggies
double lipo 🤮
The best choice on the market at the moment is HB racong e819rs for driveability competitiveness and price. The worst maybe is kyosho for materials,double lipo and price
Where is mp10e tki2😢😢😢
We just didn't have one unfortunately.
-Brett
Tlr typhon is 3860 grams. No wander it's no good on track.. I'm thinking of narrow the chassis with a grinder so shave some weight.
What? No the chassis doesn’t weigh more than other cars. No need for that. The weight comes from other stuff, move to the Arrma older motor mount and battery tray, change to titanium links and use Mugen pillow balls, even move to carbon fiber shock towers and you’ll find it will weigh much closer to other cars. Also use cvd on rears instead of dog bones
Stock Typhon TRL is so much more durable than these 3 since is stock out of the box as more of a basher. I think the Losi is around 3300 out of the box. As mentioned there is ALOT of extra weight on it to increase the durability. I think my Typhon TRL came in around 3340 with hobbywing electronics. That said I am changing over to a Mugen for this year. I prefer the pillow ball to the C hub so that put the Techno out and wanted something that wasnt AE. A bit worried about spares on the Mugen since my area is heavy AE and Techno.
@@yonicozac . Oh yeah nice.. yes I'm looking to.get the carbon towers, and titanium pillow ball just two I hear the mugen mbx7 middle driveshaft, and kyosho mp10 rear shafts fit. Not sure about the front. But dang those stock shafts are heavy..
A heavier car drives better
You really should do a bone stock comparison with same tires, batteries and electronics to really give a better picture. The cars were way too different, yiu want to compare CARS not ones personal setup on that car.
1:26 WHAT?????
I'm always late to the game.
4x4 Short course trucks. Seems everyone but Tekno has discontinued their race grade truck. Us little guys don't know what is race worthy these days.
Any SCT from a racing manufacturer (Tekno, Xray, AE, TLR, etc) is race worthy.
All the major brands still make a sct kit
1/8 track is too huge..slow too after play 1/10 2wd buggy..😂
E buggies is like drinking Bud Light
I drive electric and nitro. They’re both fun, in different ways.
@@TranceFuri only said that cause i cant afford em, nitro it is
Best content would be: build car, spend a week or two at the track dialing it in, record best 3-5 laps with it. Rinse and repeat for each car/kit. Everything that can be kept the same (Rx/Tx, batteries, servo, ESC #sponsorship) should be.
I think it gives a better review product where you don't feel like you have to walk on eggshells (aka "they all feel pretty good"), could allow you to monetize part of the content, and can instead talk about the dynamics of the car and we can look at lap times (like old school Top Gear).
Make a final video that summarizes the whole thing: cover the build (quality, bug-a-boos, tips etc.), talks to tuning for the specific track (changes vs box stock), touches on times and then overall ownership review. Mothball the car and later down the road you can come back to it, add performance parts or some "change" and do a whole 'nother video.
Bro can you compare the Arrma typhon Trl to these? im just wonder8ng if the Typhon dialled in correctly could compere