THE END OF MIKE DELTARUNE! (Deltarune chapter 3/ Spamton sweepstakes)

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  • Mike, the Theorised main villain of chapter 3 is dead. Long live Tenna!
    (Also includes the Spamton sweepstakes finale/Spamton value network, that was equally terrifying)
    Also the Song i mentioned because this is actually insane, they made this in under a day with the new info. • Deltarune Chapter 3: C...
    (Deltarune chapter 3, Mike, TV, Tenna, Spamton)

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  • @ValueNetwork
    @ValueNetwork  2 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    We still have so much to unpack with Tenna. Some people are constructing entirely new theories around the new info, others are just name swapping and calling it a day. Overall I think this is a good development for keeping theories fresh, and even if your sceptical of Tenna, This is now 100% proof that Mike exists in some form in chapter 3.
    Also I know the Spamton value network isn’t canon, and nothing within it should be used for genuine theorising. It’s very clear Wayneradiotv got a lot of freedom with what he could do… But the placement of the “Kill your TV” bit feels very deliberate.

    • @endrylgoes2892
      @endrylgoes2892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      spamton a spamton is probably a worshiper of a fictional character and made all the fake brodcast because of that (in canon)

    • @gamingtmans6692
      @gamingtmans6692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I'm pretty sure Toby did tell Wayne to add certain things to the spamton value network. Namely, trouble dingle and the kill your tv joke. 90% of the weird shit in the spamton value network is probably coming from the head of scorpy though XD.

    • @maxbartelme3102
      @maxbartelme3102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      mike is probably the secret boss

  • @Misteh3E
    @Misteh3E 2 ปีที่แล้ว +475

    I love how Spamton says "[[Don't believe anything you see on TV!]]" and we assumed that the smile on the tv was Mike (later known to be Tenna)...

    • @perrykv7312
      @perrykv7312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Maybe Tenna is the main antagonist and Mike is a secret boss from other chapters (or maybe it's Gaster calling himself Mike when he was talking to Spamton)

    • @AroAce-Popgoes-plush
      @AroAce-Popgoes-plush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@perrykv7312 people guessed that the weather duo is the next secret boss from the qna.

    • @perrykv7312
      @perrykv7312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AroAce-Popgoes-plush I meant from other chapters

    • @fyrfytin-27
      @fyrfytin-27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@AroAce-Popgoes-plush I don't think Toby Fox would reveal the next secret boss as easily as he did, it doesn't make sense, I think the weather duo will be mini-bosses like K. Round and Sweet Cap'n Cakes

    • @fl3m1n9o4
      @fl3m1n9o4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@fyrfytin-27 yeah i agree, i definitely don't think the weather duo are the secret bosses and are probably minibosses like you said. the whole point is that they're meant to be, y'know... secret?

  • @joutakujo9773
    @joutakujo9773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +577

    ao3 writers renaming their antagonist in their Spamton fics to Tenna instead of Mike

    • @GoodMorning.
      @GoodMorning. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Forgot fanfics existed for a quick second

    • @treyflorek8592
      @treyflorek8592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmao

    • @CaptainCFalcon
      @CaptainCFalcon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "No, see it all works still!"

    • @slugintub2836
      @slugintub2836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *types furiously about anything with Mike instead of Tenna*

  • @deepfriedfish
    @deepfriedfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    I also thought it was funny that everyone gave Mike the Spamton shades as if he stole the look from Mike, but ignore the fact that Spamton was trying to mimic Swatch.

    • @spriteamogus404
      @spriteamogus404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Yeah, I guess they don't read the shop dialogue.

    • @thefantasticdrill788
      @thefantasticdrill788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@spriteamogus404 Most literate Deltarune fan

    • @fishyfishyfishy500akabs8
      @fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn’t nick the design from that, rather they nicked the fanon mike boss design from that one creepy face in the basement

    • @spriteamogus404
      @spriteamogus404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thefantasticdrill788 💀💀💀💀

    • @theidiotsfromplanetzognoid3637
      @theidiotsfromplanetzognoid3637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought those were just mikes eyes

  • @MadWeegee
    @MadWeegee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Everyone is talking about how literally everyone was wrong about Mike, but I'm just hyped that we got a confirmed villain name

  • @uberculex
    @uberculex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    I think Tenna is short for Antenna as in, all of the white noise is caused by the antenna being out of line.

    • @thefarlander2050
      @thefarlander2050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yo that's a pretty good idea on who this Tenna might be. Maybe they were "out of line" with Spamton and Mike, which led them to become an outcast.

    • @TheDeadOfNight37
      @TheDeadOfNight37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@thefarlander2050 the "weather sticks together" page gives a feeling of being in-line and cooperating too so potentially that's that's theme, I think you have a point

    • @kakyoindonut3213
      @kakyoindonut3213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I immediately think "ever name supposed to have meaning" So I quickly guess it mean antenna

    • @JJ18355
      @JJ18355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheDeadOfNight37 The value of teamwork. I can see that being a theme in Chapter 3.

    • @Luqman69
      @Luqman69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so jevil for jester+evil,
      spamton for spam and ?
      tenna for antenna

  • @twitchyeyess
    @twitchyeyess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    Knowing that a decades worth of fanon art has been immediately demolished makes me feel *joy*
    Good Guy Mike FTW!!!

    • @DeltaBlazin
      @DeltaBlazin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Eh i still like tv mike too

    • @kimjongunsucksbooty750
      @kimjongunsucksbooty750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      just wait until canon gaster is a TI-84 graphing calculator

    • @big_mike7950
      @big_mike7950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      A decade? Dude chapter 2s been out for a year lmfao

    • @Yetiii23
      @Yetiii23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@big_mike7950 he meant a decades worth. As in theres so much fucking fan Mike content that you would have to spend a decade sifting through it all.

    • @OhNoBohNo
      @OhNoBohNo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Im hoping Mike Tenna is still what it turns out to be, but the fact we got new info means a whole *NEW* decade's worth of fan stuff to sort thru xD

  • @invalid_user_handle
    @invalid_user_handle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    Y'know, I'm surprised people didn't really learn from how much Toby played us with Ch. 1's ending. What made people think that everything was straight-forward _this_ time?

    • @Silthurnix
      @Silthurnix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Same. As soon as I saw the Mike boss battle I knew they had tapped right into Toby's trap. At least there is not as much content on Kris being the knight as that's a more controversial topic.
      He loves pranking his fans and we love him for it.

    • @lolmeowajarchive
      @lolmeowajarchive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      EXSACTLY

    • @Luqman69
      @Luqman69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      he made my brain thinking for the lore, more than me thinking for my final exam

    • @krispy2763
      @krispy2763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A few months after Mike, I went "Oh Toby’s gonna play us, isn’t he ?"

    • @giggig6703
      @giggig6703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Silthurnix me too.

  • @crowiltiziodeltreno4177
    @crowiltiziodeltreno4177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Mike may not be a TV guy, but he's still a character, and someone really important to Spamton to boot, and i'm looking forward to see his true design. so remember, Mike, you will still have your fans, WE LOVE YOU MIKE!

  • @amalgamousgoat6217
    @amalgamousgoat6217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Time to move forward while appreciating the fanon Mike content as AU material like it was always going to be. We of the hiatus will never forget Funny Mike TV Man and his terrible year-long reign. Godspeed you funky little bastard.

    • @GameMaker3_5
      @GameMaker3_5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      We'll never forget the store brand Pyrocynical!

    • @ironwraith852
      @ironwraith852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They really did just name this dude after the Gamer kid from Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. Or if you’re a book/original movie fan, the Cowboy obsessed kid.

  • @invalid_user_handle
    @invalid_user_handle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    TL;DR:
    Turns out that spamton calling someone a criminal _wasn't_ referring to Mike.

    • @TheRealSuperKirby
      @TheRealSuperKirby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then why would he phrase it like that?

    • @skyjack1
      @skyjack1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@TheRealSuperKirby
      He’s a nutcase, what _don’t_ you expect?

    • @joutakujo9773
      @joutakujo9773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@TheRealSuperKirby you're asking why the guy who speaks in glitched copy and pasted sentences why he phrased it like that?

    • @amalgamousgoat6217
      @amalgamousgoat6217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheRealSuperKirby the answer is and has always been: he literally didnt lol
      spamton didn't mention mike in a complete sentence at all
      it was a static cut-in, same as his "is anyone there...?" line
      y'know who he did mention deliberately in that dialogue, though? "[Easels] AND [CRTs]"

    • @TheRealSuperKirby
      @TheRealSuperKirby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amalgamousgoat6217 wrong. That's a completely different line of dialogue.

  • @mr.cobalt1668
    @mr.cobalt1668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    So Mike isn't the TV Spamton hates so much, who is instead Tenna, but Tenna may be the reason Mike is gone?
    ...I swear if Mike is supposed to represent radio adverts and this whole thing is building up to a "Video killed the radio star" pun...

    • @Yetiii23
      @Yetiii23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This is probably true lol

    • @darkmodeenjoyer3367
      @darkmodeenjoyer3367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is going to be the joke

    • @lou626
      @lou626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is going to happen. Mark my words

    • @lourdespachla6516
      @lourdespachla6516 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *Radiola flashbacks*

  • @Just-A-Canadian
    @Just-A-Canadian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    honestly Tenna fits way better with how like the other "secret bosses" and other "darkeners" actually fit with what they're based off of, like "Jevil" being a play of [[ Devil ]] and [[ Jester ]] and "Spamton" quite litterally refering to a [[ Spammer ]]. So "Tenna" being the actual name fits with the Tv aspect of the [[ TV Antenna ]]
    Edit: ALSO ANOTHER ADD ON TO THIS, perhaps since their names are based off of how or what they represent "MIKE" may possibly actualy be a [[Microphone]] or as fans predicted a gameshow host which tend to use microphones??

    • @noteglitch5032
      @noteglitch5032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Valid point. I guess we might have a hospital themed dark world. What do you think the names will be ?

    • @sdekoning2100
      @sdekoning2100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​​@@noteglitch5032Dr Med or mr kit from [Medkit]? sorry if its bad its the first names i came up with.

    • @noteglitch5032
      @noteglitch5032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sdekoning2100 that was actually good. Better than what I thought of. Hospi. Or mr. Tal . These are bad ones 😅

    • @vboi5697
      @vboi5697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@noteglitch5032 Hospi is actually better than you think when you realize Hospice exists. Hospice is care for a dying person, which could fit with deltarune's themes with a little tinkering (Hospi's starting to realize that his/her freedom is dead, maybe?)
      HOSPIce

    • @laravioliiii2832
      @laravioliiii2832 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. I think mike will still be the main antagonist, because Jevil mentioned Queen after being beaten with violence.

  • @Mr_Magolor
    @Mr_Magolor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You know... This whole thing kinda is a parallel to what seems to have happened to canon Mike when you think about it... The fans ran crazy with concepts for what he could be. He was the most popular Fandom OC but the moment Tenna gets introduced as the actual Canon TV-character all that just ends.... He got his popularity usurped by Tenna and now he's stuck as a what-if. The main universe functions perfectly without him as if he doesn't exist.......
    I swear if Toby was planning on using the Fandom's obsession to deliberately accomplish this parallel, I swear to GOD-

    • @aclaymushroomwithaberet7084
      @aclaymushroomwithaberet7084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that would be fucking hilarious ngl

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the secret boss is Mike pissed over losing his potential position as chapter antagonist and now he's taking out on the player for being so fickle

  • @richardshiitake5083
    @richardshiitake5083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    It's funny. A whole year of theorizing that "Mike" would be the antagonist, and Toby just throws it all in a loop with us having to rethink everything. Let's see if "Tenna" lasts longer or meets the same fate, heh.

    • @bro748
      @bro748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There were like, 3 mentions of Mike total in Deltarune. Constructing entire theories based off of such flimsy evidence is obviously going to be faulty.

    • @thecreatura993
      @thecreatura993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bro748 to be fair I think people were going off of how Jevil also mentioned Queen and she became the antagonist for chapter 2

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bro748 its actually not a bad guess. When asked about friends he mentioned mike in a very emotional manner and when pressed further he said "Don't trust what you see on tv! the man's a criminal!" and then chapter 2 ends with an evil smile on a tv (which is apparently named "friend" in the files, creating another connection to when Spamton freaked out when asked about "friends"). Add to that Jevil mentioning Queen and the next chapter shows QUEEN as the main antagonist of chapter 2, and yeah there was som evidence it wasn't pulled from nowhere.

    • @FilipFCB
      @FilipFCB 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bro748 And the only thing we know about Tenna is literally his/her/it's NAME. Barely mentioned even once 😂. I can imagine the theorists faces as the theories they delicately built for the last two years fall apart as they play through the new chapters in 2024 (I hope)

  • @CG64Mushro0m
    @CG64Mushro0m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Spamton was being helped by Mike, one of his closest, and maybe only, ally.
    it was Tenna who severed communication between Mike and Spamton.
    Tenna ruined EVERYTHING for spamton, making spamton get desperate, and eventually, with enough desperation
    Spamton accidentally called gaster somehow, and he went insane.
    at the end of his NEO battle, he says "ARE YOU HEARING ALL THIS [Mike]? IM GONNA FINALLY BE A BIG SHOT!" hoping mike will hear is name...
    truely, with this take, this seems a lot more tragic.
    All he wanted was to be a big shot, just like Mike.

    • @Krisnt-
      @Krisnt- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      d_a_m_n_y_o_u_t_e_n_n_a
      - some salesman probably.

    • @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj
      @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      CALLING [[Data Expunged]] AT [[3.00 A.M.]]?!?!1 (GONE WRONG) ([[ACAB]] CALLED)

  • @owlface5023
    @owlface5023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    First world was based off imagination in table top rpgs, Then internet, then presumably Tv. Maybe spamton doesn’t trust tv because it… killed the radio.

  • @silverblaze8766
    @silverblaze8766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Undertale/Deltarune fans sweating if Gaster isn't Gaster

    • @finalsurvivor1
      @finalsurvivor1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The thing is? In a sense, this could actually be completely true. That figure everyone says is Gaster is never actually referred to as Gaster anywhere in the code, but as "mysteryman".

    • @silverblaze8766
      @silverblaze8766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@finalsurvivor1 what if that guy is name Mister E man and everyone is so fixated on him being Gaster that they don't know it's a pun

    • @ValueNetwork
      @ValueNetwork  2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      If our perception of Gaster lore is off/wrong in a major way, that would be catastrophic. Mike only existed for a year and the theory was destined to end when chapter 3 comes out. But Gaster has 7 years of Fannon stacked up like a house of cards that can fall whenever Toby feels like it.

    • @gamingtmans6692
      @gamingtmans6692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I would be crying laughing if this actually happened. I do doubt we will ever actually see Gaster in deltarune but its funny to imagine years of fanon getting destroyed

  • @nedmelee8108
    @nedmelee8108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I feel this huge amount of joy knowing fanon Mike was wrong, and they have to start from square 1 with Tenna content. I get it, Toby Fox's properties are always gonna have AU's made of them, but God it feels good that Toby went 'ur wrong by the way lol'. Toby's gonna make a more interesting game than the fandom's guesses, so it's nice to see his plot points aren't super predictable

    • @Tulip_bip
      @Tulip_bip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I also like that he outright confirms specific stuff so people stop making theories about it. I bet it's him learning from his experience with undertale, so this time he's clearing up the things that don't matter so people focus on the actually important stuff

    • @Cool_Kid95
      @Cool_Kid95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💛💛💛

  • @arodriguez6567
    @arodriguez6567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Mike must have been Spam's mentor that he felt dependent on for a long time, which is why he hesitated after he told Kris he didn't need him anymore. If Mike was giving Spam the go-ahead for his business decisions (whether it was through Mike's permission or approval or just moral support), having him out of the picture suddenly would leave Spam out on a lurch. Spam must believe that Tenna is responsible for whatever happened to Mike.
    Spam could have even been talking bad about Mike so he could have him and his wisdom all to himself 🤷

  • @glowchips7386
    @glowchips7386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I feel like Mike still exists but just isn’t anywhere close to who we thought they were, which is expected since I don’t think anyone actually thought Mike would look like these fan made versions

    • @Tulip_bip
      @Tulip_bip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I mean he's obviously still an important person relating to spamton. I think Mike and tenna were both his old friends and something happened between them

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe he's gaster, spamton refuses to say his actual name in fear of a crash

    • @FilipFCB
      @FilipFCB 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course Mike still exists. He's just not what overly-obsessed theorists fantasised he was

  • @kirbyfreakyt4695
    @kirbyfreakyt4695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    0:29
    "Don't believe [everything you see on tv], Kris! The man's a criminal I tell you, a CRIMINAL!"
    "I'll crush my TV for it's horrible *crimes* !"
    An old TV is nothing without an antennae.
    The antennae is kind of like... the boss of the TV.
    Seriously though. This is like... how the entire fandom thought the Special egg was Spamton for a few seconds.

  • @DeltaBlazin
    @DeltaBlazin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Well the title is kinda clickbaity, ironically confirms Mike being a character at least, probably not a TV dude but he's still a character

  • @niftybadgaming4982
    @niftybadgaming4982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I gotta say tenna is pretty clever as you can only use a tv an”tenna” to help you find tv channels but sometimes it can read channels and static is something that happens when the antenna can’t get a transmission signal or something like that.

  • @BaaarisaKirisame
    @BaaarisaKirisame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly, I think it's cool that fans have their own chapter 2 and Toby has his own canon chapter 2. There could be like an AU where it's just all of the fan-made chapters or something.

  • @DrewssClues
    @DrewssClues 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i genuinely don't know why the community collectively agreed mike was the tv i have been so god damn confused

    • @sharonv3597
      @sharonv3597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Spamton referred to Mike as a criminal, and told us not "trust everything we see on TV". Since Jevil mentioned Queen in Chapter 1, we assumed that it's the same case here, and that Mike will be the new villian.

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sharonv3597 but Jevil didn't mention queen, he mentioned THE Queen. As in the queen of spades. The missing card

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mr.monkey354 no, he said ominious things about a person he referred to as "the queen". He didn't say they were connected to spades or anything (also no, spades isn't missing, King and Lancer are BOTH Spades). as far as we cna currenty tell nothing suggest Queen isn't a seperate entity from "the" queen.

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sarafontanini7051 yes the queen of spades is missing, do you know anything about cards? There's a king of spades (king), a jack of spades (lancer), and queen of spades (qos). There is definitely a card that's missing. If he was referring to queen, he wouldn't say she would return and bring the roaring. Cuz queen didn't bring the roaring. His dialogue literally implies a queen returning and bringing the roaring. It's kinda obvious

    • @FilipFCB
      @FilipFCB 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mr.monkey354 Which is exactly what ended up happening - Queen comes, wants to create a greater dark world, learns that it will cause roaring, gives up. Jevil doesn't have to be 100% right. He may have thought the Queen was going to cause the roaring, but what does he know, he has been trapped for god knows how long inside that cell

  • @Wobbmin
    @Wobbmin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Well, the good news is it seems fanon Mike still lives, just under a different name now

  • @thereisnocanon
    @thereisnocanon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I just know that AU creators are going to be raging over this lmao

  • @diacosiapentacontahex
    @diacosiapentacontahex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You hear that? That's the sweet sound of a billion fans crying out and being silenced by the dog all at once. How has no one learned? We shouldn't make predictions for Toby's content, because when we do, he's always gonna pull a 5000iq play and pull the rug from beneath us. There's nothing better than a fan theory getting fucked up by Toby Fox.
    Mark my words. Gaster isn't going to be MysteryMan.

    • @Tulip_bip
      @Tulip_bip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bet Toby had a different design in mind originally, but since people have stuck so hard to mystery man, he's probably gonna change it to that anyways

    • @diacosiapentacontahex
      @diacosiapentacontahex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tulip_bip That statement completely ignores the whole point I made. Toby is a contrarian, a troll, he loves proving people wrong. That's what's so cool about him. He'd go out of his way to undermine years' worth of fan-content on "Gaster" just for fun.

  • @sanstheskeleton3279
    @sanstheskeleton3279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Well, at least Mike still exists, he's just not the TV headed dude lol

  • @kiji4283
    @kiji4283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m just glad spamton had a friend

  • @Elec.Balloon
    @Elec.Balloon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm absolutely fine with this.
    What I don't get is the many comments here saying that making predictions was a bad thing.

    • @Elec.Balloon
      @Elec.Balloon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like seriously, the effort that goes into the fan made stuff is great. Just listen to Laugh Track. Doesn't it sound like something Toby would make? At least instrument-wise?

  • @Nekrotix12
    @Nekrotix12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We got DUPED I tell you! DUPED!

  • @CompactStar
    @CompactStar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Plot twist: The full name is Mike Tenna

    • @cato3277
      @cato3277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      or maybe Anne.

    • @wumfumblus
      @wumfumblus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mike N. Tenna

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      plot twist: mike is trans

  • @Sara-yq4ij
    @Sara-yq4ij 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thinking about it, make sense that the guy named Mike isn't based on a television
    y'know... Mike, like a pun for microphone... maybe he's related to the radio instead?

  • @megamike15
    @megamike15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    and this is why you don't make fan fiction when you don't know anything about the character.

  • @TheMasterd333
    @TheMasterd333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This pretty much confirmed that Mike's an actual character though

  • @aidencalhoun4893
    @aidencalhoun4893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Spamton you cheeky little [sponge] you will [pay with your soul] you [big shot] and steal all of your [hyperlink blocked]

  • @willow5945
    @willow5945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Mike is us. Spamton's greatest wish is to escape the confines of Deltarune and become a real person. He's already managed to communicate with our world, as seen by his hiring human actors to perform in his Sweepstakes. It makes sense that he'd come to regard the player as a personal friend, being his first and greatest connection to Heaven. We probably met during the events of Undertale, and now that we have a new avatar he simply doesn't recognize us.

    • @theMint_Tie_
      @theMint_Tie_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That’s a cool theory! I’d like to see if they do something like that!

  • @craz2580
    @craz2580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mike: you cant defeat me
    Toby: i know, but they can
    *Image of Tenna popping out of the tv*

  • @shannimations_
    @shannimations_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Saw this literally a few hours after finishing my interpretation of Mike. Oops 😬

    • @MrMoron-qn5rx
      @MrMoron-qn5rx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah, mike is still mike. Aunt tenna will be the antagonist.

    • @Doobie-kx8fk
      @Doobie-kx8fk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do what this one dude did and insert your interpretation of Mike into a unrelated thing you're doing so nobody bats an eye. Probably change his name too

  • @adultstroke8214
    @adultstroke8214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mike fanart before spamton sweeptakes: i am super cool tv villain
    mike fanart after spamton sweeptakes: *microphone*

  • @Zyxdee
    @Zyxdee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rest in peace.

  • @kookinos3457
    @kookinos3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My theory after figuring out Tenna exists was that Mike was still the Tv but Tenna is mind controlling him into being something he wasn't supposed to be. Misguiding him if you would. Though this scares me for what Mike actually is, I'm remaining neutral on this situation. Either if he is or is not the Tv.

  • @A.R.C.1997
    @A.R.C.1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I WILL NOT BE REPLACED"
    Someone needs to make a Mike cover with this RIGHT. NOW

  • @emeraldnickel
    @emeraldnickel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to think that Tenna's first name is Ann.

  • @lungilungo9734
    @lungilungo9734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mike might just be a name Gaster goes by. Plus it’s ironic that Spamton says we know nothing about Mike just like how we know pretty much nothing about Gaster.

    • @rafkenjakistam3082
      @rafkenjakistam3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If that's the case then this Tenna guy is literally dangerous enough to make his men hunt for a man who shattered into multiple pieces.

  • @GwainSagaFanChannel
    @GwainSagaFanChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spamton : dont hurt my bro

  • @coolguymcfly
    @coolguymcfly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    HOORAY! THAT [Female dogs slowly prancing] IS GONE! [Mike, are you there?] IS FINALLY [You’re a goner, dude.]!!

  • @Elec.Balloon
    @Elec.Balloon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aww, but the "Mike Rook = My Crook" pun :^(

  • @vasizzlenilla
    @vasizzlenilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always been avoiding the Mike is a TV theory but it is still fun to play the Mike theory games yk like the FNF mod and the Fanmade fight

  • @breach4135
    @breach4135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wouldnt it be totally funny if this is a red herring too?

  • @blazethegame
    @blazethegame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I mean tbf I think that all of those old designs for mike apply perfectly to Tenna.

  • @mocksuxker69
    @mocksuxker69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think Tenna is gonna be a pure evil antagonist too...
    Spamton could just hate TV's because of the quality control that didn't let his show(s) on there. Thats why he prefers [The INTERNET]

    • @rafkenjakistam3082
      @rafkenjakistam3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody in Toby's games is pure evil, even King had redeeming qualities.

  • @ChaosTheSalamander
    @ChaosTheSalamander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m gonna say this now: i HATED the fannon Mike. Something about the suit with the TV head with the big smile wasn’t creative in the same light as Toby’s work. I am so so happy Tenna is slowly turning into something new, whatever it is!

  • @MrCommon_One
    @MrCommon_One 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly I would fully agree except in the QNA Cathode Crew [Cathode if you didn't see the post on reddit is a word of a mechanic in a TV] , mike might be a good guy n' stuff or a bad guy, This could just be toby fix throwing us off to try and get us off track. Spamton in the game have said that mike is a bad guy. Have we all forgotten that? And ofc tenna and mike will be characters in deltarune I just don't think mike is no longer existent or fanon.

  • @syweb2
    @syweb2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:14 Not "Cathode crew", but "that _[Cathode]'s_ crew" (notice the brackets and apostrophe). He's calling someone (a TV character, presumably) a cathode (TV connection, "cathode tube") due to his weird bracketed word-swapping, and that someone apparently has cronies.

  • @Big-Image
    @Big-Image 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Tenna is the name of a brand or company. Something like, *Tenna Entertainment*

  • @Lisspeed
    @Lisspeed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ornstein here, aka the person that got answered by Toby lmao. Huecycles and I have been really attached to our Metropolis AU so even with this new info we will continue to keep fanon Mike around because we're deeply attached to him. I feel like fanon Mike became its own fun little thing!

  • @jackmann527
    @jackmann527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My guess, judging by the "TV mobster" personality of the shadowmen, is that the TV guy will be the mob boss named Anton Tenna.

  • @betia4915
    @betia4915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tenna, antenna of tv, it make sense

  • @eoghanodom
    @eoghanodom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh yay, I am so happy for the incoming Spamton x Mike and Spamton x Tenna ships /s
    Genuinely interesting developments, I hope Deltarune is able to move on from Spamton and his legacy. Like don't get me wrong he's a great character I am just a little sick of him right now.

  • @cyanscholar5498
    @cyanscholar5498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    as a long time fan of RTVS I love to see people genuinely looking into the work they make, it warms my heart as some one who has been tubing in for years

  • @BlueDragonGalaxy
    @BlueDragonGalaxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fan art creators: Take this as a lesson on jumping the gun. If a character hasn't been properly introduced don't go jumping to conclusions about their role in the original sauce!
    (Granted, I could believe Toby Fox was being intentionally cheeky having Spamton mention Mike in a set up for a twist like this, he's made it VERY clear he keeps a close eye on his audience.)

    • @Tulip_bip
      @Tulip_bip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      People constantly forget that we've only seen 2 of 7 chapters. It's literally impossible to know what's gonna Happen next cuz we've barely seen any of the story so far

    • @amalgamousgoat6217
      @amalgamousgoat6217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      idk why everyone in the comments is doing this
      y'all literally chastising people for making fan content as if they expected it to end up being canon
      like there are definitely some people hard coping, but anyone putting in the time to make fangame and AU content with mike knows very well they aren't going to be *right*
      just relax and enjoy some cute lil non-canon tv guys

    • @BlueDragonGalaxy
      @BlueDragonGalaxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amalgamousgoat6217 - Ah, I could have phrased my comment better. 😞 I tend to be more careful with my own fan works because I know I'd be upset if I poured hours into creating a story only for it to hit a brick wall like this.
      For those who are hard coping, just be more careful next time you make fan content that goes heavily into speculative territory. For those who are handling it better, great! Stay creative! Who knows, you might be able to salvage something from what you've already made!

    • @amalgamousgoat6217
      @amalgamousgoat6217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlueDragonGalaxy Fair sentiment! I do get where you're coming from, definitely. Such is the blessing and the curse of the hiatus.

  • @thatoneXman
    @thatoneXman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It brings me great joy to see this fandom humiliated on such a gargantuan scale. Is that wierd? Maybe. Do I care that it is? ABSOLUTELY NOT

  • @a-fresh8034
    @a-fresh8034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well spamton was right [don't believe anything you see on TV] 😂

  • @GiffanyCD
    @GiffanyCD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Say it with me
    Mike is the Big Shot Soda man

  • @CorneliusCob
    @CorneliusCob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is just desserts to me, no ill will towards the people creating fan content, but the whole concept of the fan made chapter 3 really seemed to me as if they were trying to predict future content and then posting it as if it were real future content which really pissed me off.

  • @Modtro64
    @Modtro64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello spdy4 of ModTro64, aka the creator of "Mike Rook-Belmont" aka "Showstopper Mike".
    While the legit Antagonist of Chapter has been teased, This isn't going to stop me from finishing my Fan Chapter (which has been Renamed to Chapter Gamma).
    So Snap your Fingers all you want, Drag me away with Voodoo magic, it's Not gonna stop me. Over the small amount of time My Mike has came onto the scene. I got a small following and I want to entertain my viewers as much as I can. So Even when Chapter 3 does come out and we're all making fanart of chapters 3, 4, and 5.
    I will always appreciate the fans of My Mike, But cool of you to reference me in the first place. I laughed xD

  • @Lagw1020
    @Lagw1020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know... it was fun while it lasted

  • @cookiesnqueen2625
    @cookiesnqueen2625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For until I'm inevitably proven very wrong I'm going to headcanon Mike and Tenna as brothers. First reason being I only just finally got around to finalizing my design for the character we now now is named Tenna and I refuse to change the pink and yellow eyes so now they both have them. Secondly, Mike Rook is just too cool of a name to pass up. It even kind of makes sense in regards to chess theory, there's two rooks on each side of the board, right? I'm probably just reaching.
    But until chapter three comes out, my new backstory is that Mike is a karaoke machine made by the same company as Tenna, then Asgore got him in the divorce and had to pawn him off to Mettablook.

  • @ness6714
    @ness6714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew from the start that the next villain wasn't gonna be named Mike.

  • @itsmeitsmeitsme
    @itsmeitsmeitsme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The entire "YOU'RE EARLY" website reads"WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE!?
    YOU SHOULDN'T BE HERE!!
    Noise..?
    Noise..?"

    • @itsmeitsmeitsme
      @itsmeitsmeitsme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably, when the 3rd sequel is released, the website will change so we must watch out.

  • @lourdespachla6516
    @lourdespachla6516 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    theory: Tenna is clearly meant to be the TV, and based on an antenna, i mean, it IS like, an-TENNA, so, antennas many times get out of line causing static, And Mike can mean many stuff, like MIKE-rowave, MIKE-rophone, MIKE-rook™, or even the M™ in TM™ so, what if Mike is a old antigue from Toriel? Like a RADIO, and Tenna, being an anTenna, got out of line thus being an outcast and got a shadow crystal, and Mike, possibly being a Radio star himself, was the original ruler, and tenna, the TV, overthrew mike, so Tenna is still an outcast, out of line, like a *gangster* and Mike, being forgotten, Tried his best to remain sane, and mike determined, persevered and stole Tenna's shadow crystal, to try to get his power, thus making both Tenna and Mike insane, that or i have just eated too many shadow crystals.

  • @redhotdanger2394
    @redhotdanger2394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Taking notes rapidly*

  • @fl3m1n9o4
    @fl3m1n9o4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    nobody has been named "The Cathode Crew". he was calling Mike a "[Cathode]" and asked if someone was part of his crew, just as he could have asked if they were part of his gang, or group, etc. it could change in the future, but for now, there is nothing canonically called "The Cathode Crew". don't spread misconceptions.

    • @ValueNetwork
      @ValueNetwork  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I agree with you on that, the cathode crew probably isn’t a real thing and Spamton is just calling out people who follow Mike/tenna (and I probably should’ve worded my text differently) But at the same time, we don’t really know anything. We’re back to ground zero theory wise. If someone wants to make the cathode crew into a actual thing for a AU/theory they can.

    • @rafkenjakistam3082
      @rafkenjakistam3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He wasn't calling Mike a Cathode.

  • @BlustreakG
    @BlustreakG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, and I really liked tiny TV Mike

  • @Missingno_Miner
    @Missingno_Miner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hate fanon Mike with a burning passion, but it would be super funny if chapter 3 dropped and it turned out that Tenna was the red herring, not Mike.

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm yes Deltarune lore momentum 100

  • @Benzinilinguine
    @Benzinilinguine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Fan-made"
    It's a name in the actual game. We'll see next year. Or the year after.

    • @rafkenjakistam3082
      @rafkenjakistam3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They meant the fanon interpretation of Mike as a gameshow host with a TV head.

  • @polymonster_
    @polymonster_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WAIIT THE GUY WHO WROTE HLVRAI MADE THII2 THAT2 2O COOL

  • @user-sh4bp1nm7s
    @user-sh4bp1nm7s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The worst pf all its that mike looks like its in good terms with spamton and its like
    Not only we where wrong but we where SUPER wrong

  • @HyperHexagoner
    @HyperHexagoner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toby deadass made it clear sweepstakes stream was canon btw

  • @brbboi309
    @brbboi309 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yall do realize that, fanon Mike isn’t dead, he just got a new name.

  • @lionman8295
    @lionman8295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t know what’s real anymore😂

  • @wumfumblus
    @wumfumblus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I honestly believe Tenna is a last name.
    Toby naming a character Mike N. Tenna seems like something he'd do.

    • @Tulip_bip
      @Tulip_bip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It wouldn't make sense tho, since he refers to Mike and tenna in different ways

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neat video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @isotetra1912
    @isotetra1912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was right, Mike ISNT the TV guy. Everyone jumped to conclusions and now theyre disappointed that they invested time and effort into something that doesnt have enough info to be correct. It did spawn some cool ideas at the time though lol
    Tbh anyone coulda seen this coming from miles away lmao

  • @Tulip_bip
    @Tulip_bip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gonna call it now, Mike is gonna be a microphone and tenna is gonna be an antenna

  • @TheRealSuperKirby
    @TheRealSuperKirby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still think Mike is the TV head, I don't see why a tv man would be named after their antenna, that's like if a man was named after his ears. Tenna is might be part of mike, a part with a mind of its own. Who turned him into the criminal he is today.

  • @flourrrr
    @flourrrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its finally over

  • @missmadness564
    @missmadness564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mike thing being related to the tv is just making me think of mike the tv from the show ReBoot

  • @e.k2261
    @e.k2261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Plot twist : They fooled us again making us think that Tenna is the TV and not Mike but actually Mike is the TV and not Tenna lol

  • @szkraft220
    @szkraft220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sofkfldmcksmck the way I see it is this: i have no problem with thise takes from before continuing, they are still just as fìne in my book, they always were emnt to be disprooved eventually, so why fret over all of this when its all good creative fun anyway
    another thing, which this "tenna is the bad guy actually" thing has a lot of merit personally rhe tmfirst thing i thought of when i read these was that spamton is damning two people and is yelling at that question because noone truly knows what mike mightve dine to make spamton feel the way he feels
    thats all, im just seeing some "well i can ignore this now" attitude from a lot of fans when i think this doesnt have to mean we should abandon all those old mike ideas...

  • @LavvieDump
    @LavvieDump 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like the idea of Mike being a good guy. might actually make him the dad to all the addisons in my au since I hc the addisons as siblings

  • @Названиеканала-н1у
    @Названиеканала-н1у ปีที่แล้ว

    before that , there were mic Mikes in 2021-22

  • @Lycanrod
    @Lycanrod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    ive never discussed this with any deltarune fan so i really don't have the right to say it but ill say it anyway
    i fucking told you so
    bro come on you think they'd reveal who mike is THAT quickly?? they're clearly hinting at something big with him he isn't just the next big bad in line

    • @Yorancy
      @Yorancy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The thing is, there was logic behind it. Jevil told Kris about the Queen, and Mike was the only character Spamton mentioned that we don't know, so since Jevil - a secret boss - talked about the main antagonist of chapter 2, it makes sense to think that Spamton - other secret boss - would do the same thing for chapter three.
      But welp, we couldn't be more wrong about it

    • @unfunny4346
      @unfunny4346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah same

  • @bozo9932
    @bozo9932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still think tenna is gonna be a random dude with a tv as a head

  • @enderraltorgamer24-teamesq6
    @enderraltorgamer24-teamesq6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel this is a bit weird like the normal tv mike also can be used for tenna because there arent nothing impliying tenna dont hates spamton and also mikes big showdon didnt die too hard by his design being like the face we think is mike(if mikes showdown did something bad,comment it and I will chage it I didnt play mikes showdown9

  • @fillkthefillker242
    @fillkthefillker242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    let's be honest here:
    There's ralsei, lancer, king, queen, rouxl kaard,spamton and then... Mike? mike sounds like a human/lightner name, like kris or susie, so I think mike is probably a lightner.

    • @Tulip_bip
      @Tulip_bip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The name tenna clearly references an antenna, so why wouldn't Mike just be short for microphone?
      The teasers for the next chapter are all TV themed too, so it adds up