I experimented with air layering my macrophylla because I didn’t want to risk just cutting it. I wrapped spaghum moss around the stem and Saran Wrap with twist ties. I’m happy to report great success. I also use soil or moss in clear take out containers instead of the baggies.
I put my Hoya in after I filled jar half full of (well rinsed) lecca then filled with more water and lecca. I had longer stems and made sure it was under water to start. Backed off of water level once I saw roots. It does take a couple of months. Also I flushed the lecca every couple weeks. Once the roots were starting I only put 1/3 water. Roots reach down eventually. Have to admit perlite is way faster. Good Luck.
Thanks for this great information as I am new to leca. I did realize my mistake of not rinsing the leca, but I did after the video. I will definitely try this again and like always....learn from my mistakes. LOL
I am so surprised at the Leca propagation. But the moss and perlite thought 🙌🙌. I am currently propagating Hoya carnosa Krimson Princess in perlite and in water. Waiting for results myself. Your video was fabulous, as always.
Thanks. I did have someone comment asking if I rinsed the leca before use and I didn't. So this may have been my fault entirely, but still...would it effect it that much?!?!?
Thanks for sharing a new and useful video I like the feeling that communicates well even if the language is different Full watch, I want to come again Cheer from Korea 🌷🌺❤
I’ve been wanting to try perlite but always felt intimidated but I’m going to have to try it now. Thank you. I started using LECA and so far I’ve been successful but I’ve been adding liqui-dirt and that’s been making a huge difference for me but you’re right, the balls tend to go everywhere. Lol. Thanks again for the tips. Happy planting.
Hi, very helpful video. Thank you. I have one questions please do we need any care during these 3 weeks? Open the bag, change or fill up water etc. Thank you so much.
Hello. I have actually switched to a plastic container. Same process with keeping the perlite wet, but no standing water at the bottom. I will open the lid or bag maybe once every 1 or 2 weeks just to check on the cuttings briefly. Hope this helps!
I really like coconut husk mix with perlite but I just add sphagnum moss on top to keep moisture. I haven't used any sealed bag perhaps Thailand is quite humid.
I really like using the perlite also. But I do have a Crimson Queen growing in lecca. It took a few months but it has finally shot out a new growth point with 2 new pretty leaves.
thank you for your video with follow up. I've tired leca too and not successful with hoya kerri they rotted very quickly. I've just got some more kerri cuttings and will try with perlite
Great video, I'm rooting some cuttings today. I use leca for potting in general, but the water imo was quite high with the propagation. Leca wicks water up and provides good humidity, but you don't need to fill it up so much. The bag method looks like the better option for sure, so I'm gonna go for that. Thanks again!
these videos really make me want to get into propagating! my favourite plantss are calathea so not possible will those, but i could definitely chop up my marble queen. i'm the most interested in perlite as that's a medium i already have.
@@EverythingPlants I think so. It's not strong or anything but I always think "oh that's a soothing voice" then check and its always Canadian haha guess it's just being comfy with what I know. Thanks again for the great content!
@@allisonharrod2224 thanks so much Allison! I really appreciate the support and you taking time to comment on my accent 🤣 I'm in Saskatchewan....which province are you in?
They only I do is if they were watered propagated cuttings then I would just make sure the soil stays a bit on the moist side so the roots don't dry out. I have found it makes the transition easier for the plant. Otherwise I don't do much else. Just a nice chunky mix for the hiyas works well.
When it comes to Moss propagation in general I don't really worry about having some Moss stuck to the roots. If you put it in the right substrates then a small amount of Moss isn't really going to make a difference. I'd worry less about the Moss and more about the damage I could do by picking the Moss off of the roots
The smaller cuttings I am not worried about...it is the larger plants in moss. They are a nightmare to strip all the moss off of before potting in soil. Haha
@@EverythingPlants Try grinding/blending the moss before using it! That might help to keep the sticking to a minimum. I’ve been wanting to experiment with that myself
Jeff, my Hoya crimson queen is failing.. the leaves are very soft. I purchased from a buying in a pot without drainage. I’ve repotted her but it hasn’t got any better! I’ve got her in a wet paper towel and put air in a large freezer bag for humidity. She has a few roots but I wondered what would happen if I put her back in water to grow more? 😩 I don’t want to loose her! Any suggestions? I’m not able to get my hands on horticultural charcoal or zeolite unless I pay a fortune for it. I have perlite and orchid bark and cactus soil.
@@EverythingPlants it was just very moist.. I don’t know if I did the right thing but I ended up finding a good quality organic soil with lots of good ingredients. It’s called black swallow living soil, the ingredients are amazing, and I picked up some pumice (to large) lol but I put some in with perlite and hoping for the best. The leaves are not turning color yet but very soft. At least I have a good soil for the other plants 😆
Curious if you cleaned or soaked your leca prior to putting it in the jar? From what I’ve read some leca brands product will affect ph more than others if they aren’t cleaned and then soaked in a solution with your desired ph and possibly some nutrients
I did not...and I should have, but I did replenish with fresh water. This definitely could have been the reason for the failure. I will try again for sure and thanks for this great information.
@@EverythingPlants I kept thinking they would rot rather than root. Was frustrating. Next time, I'll use some rooting hormones. The roots they have started growing, are few and thin
All the leca I’ve seen is dark in color, except the artificially colored kind that doesn’t have the same water wicking properties as regular leca. This looks like that kind?
It's not supposed to be that complicated haha. I water propagate hoyas with no issues. I'm thinking the no rinsing of the leca had something to do with it (my mistake), but I will try again.
Water propagating hoya hasn't worked for me. They just rot. Perlite and moss work. I think the perlite works faster. I think the soil is riskier since perlite and moss are more sterile out of the bag when purchased while soil usually has some bacteria in it. I'm just hypothesizing. 🤷♀️ I tried wrapping hoya cuttings in damp paper towels in a plastic sealed container and they grew roots. It was interesting.
I agree about the perlite so far....and of course the moss. I will be sticking to these methods from now on, although I did have pretty good success with water propagation in the past.
@@EverythingPlants oh I definitely use water still just not for hoya. It's just so easy compared to having to buy various mediums. Just a jar and some water.
Not exactly a fair test. It's a huge difference not covering the leca cuttings with a bag. The greenhouse humidity effect makes all the difference in the world.
True...I thought about covering it, but I like to do a test on how I would normally root a plant. I don't cover water propagated hoyas, so I kept it as real as I could.
It’s approaching useless talking about plant videos without mentioning a general location or city that you are in. Miami? Calgary? Phoenix, Quebec? These places have different HUMIDITY! What kinds of growth happen in one place doesn’t happen in another so it’s entirely relevant to mention.
I feel like that should be a common understanding....you should be familiar with your own location and it's conditions. I mention many times in other videos that I am in Saskatchewan (Canadian prairies) and we have extremely dry (low) humidity specifically through the winter months and to adjust accordingly.
SO cool that you take everyone with you on the trial/error journey :) you are explaining everything so well. No wonder your channel grew so much!
Thanks...I'm not a professional and do make mistakes....just learn from those mistakes and move on lol
TOTALLY agree! It's super helpful to see these experiments, good, bad and ugly. I really do appreciate it, so Thank you so much!!😃💚
I experimented with air layering my macrophylla because I didn’t want to risk just cutting it. I wrapped spaghum moss around the stem and Saran Wrap with twist ties. I’m happy to report great success. I also use soil or moss in clear take out containers instead of the baggies.
This is so interesting to hear because I want to try air layering with one of my plants soon. Thanks for the reminder.
I put my Hoya in after I filled jar half full of (well rinsed) lecca then filled with more water and lecca. I had longer stems and made sure it was under water to start. Backed off of water level once I saw roots. It does take a couple of months. Also I flushed the lecca every couple weeks. Once the roots were starting I only put 1/3 water. Roots reach down eventually. Have to admit perlite is way faster. Good Luck.
Thanks for this great information as I am new to leca. I did realize my mistake of not rinsing the leca, but I did after the video. I will definitely try this again and like always....learn from my mistakes. LOL
I needed this for my Princess and Lisa!! Thank you Jeff.
You are welcome!!!
You read my mind!
I was just going to search for a video like this!!
Video watched, perlite and plastic bag out and ready for my hoya cuttings :)
Awesome! I hope you like the video.
Many thanks, for the Hoya cutting propagation test, you explained exactly what you were doing,so clearly. Your channel is awesome👏
Thanks so much. I really do appreciate this comment!
Your plant room looks so different now! This video is pre-jungle 😉💚
I was just thinking the same thing the other day!
I love propagating hoya in perlite. Roots awesome within a few weeks!
Ya, I'm sold on perlite.
I've got two Hoya cuttings coming and this video is gonna be so helpful to root them. Thanks you got sharing!
Good luck with your cuttings. What kinda are they?
@@EverythingPlants Thank you! I've got a thomsonii and a kerrii speckles coming next week! I'll probably try the perlite method you showed 😊
I am so surprised at the Leca propagation. But the moss and perlite thought 🙌🙌. I am currently propagating Hoya carnosa Krimson Princess in perlite and in water. Waiting for results myself. Your video was fabulous, as always.
Thanks. I did have someone comment asking if I rinsed the leca before use and I didn't. So this may have been my fault entirely, but still...would it effect it that much?!?!?
@@EverythingPlants I am totally the wrong person to ask, but it makes sense. I am learning from people like you, Jeff, lol.
@@milenataylor2 I learn as I go too. That is the fun part about this hobby.
Thanks for sharing a new and useful video I like the feeling that communicates well even if the language is different Full watch, I want to come again Cheer
from Korea
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I’ve been wanting to try perlite but always felt intimidated but I’m going to have to try it now. Thank you. I started using LECA and so far I’ve been successful but I’ve been adding liqui-dirt and that’s been making a huge difference for me but you’re right, the balls tend to go everywhere. Lol. Thanks again for the tips. Happy planting.
Good luck with perlite. When you do try it, please let me know how it goes for you.
Love your channel. Like the way you explain in plain simple way
Thanks Jennifer. 👍
Hi, very helpful video. Thank you. I have one questions please do we need any care during these 3 weeks? Open the bag, change or fill up water etc. Thank you so much.
Hello. I have actually switched to a plastic container. Same process with keeping the perlite wet, but no standing water at the bottom. I will open the lid or bag maybe once every 1 or 2 weeks just to check on the cuttings briefly. Hope this helps!
@@EverythingPlants how much light did the cuttings get?
I really like coconut husk mix with perlite but I just add sphagnum moss on top to keep moisture. I haven't used any sealed bag perhaps Thailand is quite humid.
Thanks for the information. It gets pretty dry (low humidity) where I live in Canada, especially over the cooler months.
I use moss and it works every time. Thanks for sharing.
It is popular for a reason.....IT WORKS!
I really like using the perlite also. But I do have a Crimson Queen growing in lecca. It took a few months but it has finally shot out a new growth point with 2 new pretty leaves.
I will be trying leca again. Is there something different that seemed to have worked for you?
thank you for your video with follow up. I've tired leca too and not successful with hoya kerri they rotted very quickly. I've just got some more kerri cuttings and will try with perlite
Thanks for sharing! I have a new perlite prop box video out tomorrow!
“Come ahn,” “oh geeze,” “getinthere!” 😂 Very relatable
Well...you know lol
Great video, I'm rooting some cuttings today. I use leca for potting in general, but the water imo was quite high with the propagation. Leca wicks water up and provides good humidity, but you don't need to fill it up so much. The bag method looks like the better option for sure, so I'm gonna go for that. Thanks again!
Thanks Nicole. I have been using a propagation box now...I have a few videos on this as well if you are interested.
these videos really make me want to get into propagating! my favourite plantss are calathea so not possible will those, but i could definitely chop up my marble queen. i'm the most interested in perlite as that's a medium i already have.
You can do it!
Very informative video! Thank you so much for making it! 🌿🌻🦋
Again....thanks for watching and supporting my channel!
If those hands can talk. Your an awesome teacher.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate this.
@@EverythingPlants Unequivocally
Very nice 😊. Are you going to follow up with the transfer to soil for the moss and perlite to keep the experiment going?
Yes. I already put them into soil....I will make an update video in a few weeks with some other plants too.
Do you recommend dipping the stems in a rooting mix before putting them into your propagation medium?
I never do and I've had no problems
As a fellow canadian, I always think we don't have accents till I hear someone on the internet xD but thank you for the useful info!!
Hahaha...I have an accent?
@@EverythingPlants I think so. It's not strong or anything but I always think "oh that's a soothing voice" then check and its always Canadian haha guess it's just being comfy with what I know. Thanks again for the great content!
@@allisonharrod2224 thanks so much Allison! I really appreciate the support and you taking time to comment on my accent 🤣 I'm in Saskatchewan....which province are you in?
Amazing video. How mature must a hoya plant be to propagate it?
Thanks! I don't think there is a certain age......as long as there is enough plant to take a cutting then I don't any reason not to cut it up.
I like perlite best but I’ve had good success in leca with a small water reservoir and in a propagation box or bag.
Thanks for the comment Joel. I am new to leca so I am still learning and it isn't going well for me haha
When you pot up your rooted bits, do you do anything special to put into the pots?
They only I do is if they were watered propagated cuttings then I would just make sure the soil stays a bit on the moist side so the roots don't dry out. I have found it makes the transition easier for the plant. Otherwise I don't do much else. Just a nice chunky mix for the hiyas works well.
@@EverythingPlants thanks!!
When it comes to Moss propagation in general I don't really worry about having some Moss stuck to the roots. If you put it in the right substrates then a small amount of Moss isn't really going to make a difference. I'd worry less about the Moss and more about the damage I could do by picking the Moss off of the roots
The smaller cuttings I am not worried about...it is the larger plants in moss. They are a nightmare to strip all the moss off of before potting in soil. Haha
@@EverythingPlants Try grinding/blending the moss before using it! That might help to keep the sticking to a minimum. I’ve been wanting to experiment with that myself
My favorite is Perlite and sphagnum Moss.
Perlite has definitely performed well for me!
Jeff, my Hoya crimson queen is failing.. the leaves are very soft. I purchased from a buying in a pot without drainage. I’ve repotted her but it hasn’t got any better! I’ve got her in a wet paper towel and put air in a large freezer bag for humidity. She has a few roots but I wondered what would happen if I put her back in water to grow more? 😩 I don’t want to loose her! Any suggestions? I’m not able to get my hands on horticultural charcoal or zeolite unless I pay a fortune for it. I have perlite and orchid bark and cactus soil.
Oh no....was the soil soaking when you got it?
@@EverythingPlants it was just very moist..
I don’t know if I did the right thing but I ended up finding a good quality organic soil with lots of good ingredients. It’s called black swallow living soil, the ingredients are amazing, and I picked up some pumice (to large) lol but I put some in with perlite and hoping for the best. The leaves are not turning color yet but very soft.
At least I have a good soil for the other plants 😆
Curious if you cleaned or soaked your leca prior to putting it in the jar? From what I’ve read some leca brands product will affect ph more than others if they aren’t cleaned and then soaked in a solution with your desired ph and possibly some nutrients
I did not...and I should have, but I did replenish with fresh water. This definitely could have been the reason for the failure. I will try again for sure and thanks for this great information.
Wash/ rinse the Leca before use, and soak it. My krimson princess and krimson queen took 2 years in water, to produce roots!
Oh wow.....that's a long time
@@EverythingPlants I kept thinking they would rot rather than root. Was frustrating. Next time, I'll use some rooting hormones. The roots they have started growing, are few and thin
All the leca I’ve seen is dark in color, except the artificially colored kind that doesn’t have the same water wicking properties as regular leca. This looks like that kind?
You should have places a bag over the leca bottle to prevent transpiration 😆
Redo with root hormone. The water one might win if you use liquid rh 🤔
It's not supposed to be that complicated haha. I water propagate hoyas with no issues. I'm thinking the no rinsing of the leca had something to do with it (my mistake), but I will try again.
I'd boil the Leca 1st... Or 1 part peroxide 3 part water. Prep prior. Maybe.
Yes....lesson learned haha
Leca is made by subjecting it to very high heat- it should be VERY sterilized already. Unless it’s being reused, of course.
I didn't know Hoya have a white sap until I cut mine. I'm trying to find out the name of it.Happy growing and stay safe.
It's family, Apocynaceae has that sap.
Ya, I have found most tropical plants have that white sap. Ficus plants do for sure.
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Water propagating hoya hasn't worked for me. They just rot. Perlite and moss work. I think the perlite works faster. I think the soil is riskier since perlite and moss are more sterile out of the bag when purchased while soil usually has some bacteria in it. I'm just hypothesizing. 🤷♀️ I tried wrapping hoya cuttings in damp paper towels in a plastic sealed container and they grew roots. It was interesting.
I agree about the perlite so far....and of course the moss. I will be sticking to these methods from now on, although I did have pretty good success with water propagation in the past.
@@EverythingPlants oh I definitely use water still just not for hoya. It's just so easy compared to having to buy various mediums. Just a jar and some water.
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Hi, great video. Next time presoak your LECA for 24 hours and raise your water level more than half.
Thanks, but I've abandoned leca hahaha
Me after watching this: pauses video, moves Hoya cutting from water to moss
🤣 I root all my hoya in perlite
Not exactly a fair test. It's a huge difference not covering the leca cuttings with a bag. The greenhouse humidity effect makes all the difference in the world.
True...I thought about covering it, but I like to do a test on how I would normally root a plant. I don't cover water propagated hoyas, so I kept it as real as I could.
@@EverythingPlants right, I've never seen anyone propagate cutting in leca with a plastic bag covering it.
and it is not only the humidity, the temperature should be going up a little more, too, right?!
... Surely the roots come more easily from a node.... your nodes aren't even in the water.
I've had great success with water propagation. I should have just left the leca out and used water.
It’s approaching useless talking about plant videos without mentioning a general location or city that you are in. Miami? Calgary? Phoenix, Quebec? These places have different HUMIDITY! What kinds of growth happen in one place doesn’t happen in another so it’s entirely relevant to mention.
I feel like that should be a common understanding....you should be familiar with your own location and it's conditions. I mention many times in other videos that I am in Saskatchewan (Canadian prairies) and we have extremely dry (low) humidity specifically through the winter months and to adjust accordingly.
@@EverythingPlants Ok I see. Thanks! Sorry for being grouchy. 🤗
@@artcasbah4218 haha. No at all. Thanks for watching and hope you stick around for more.