100L of perlite... I feel u 😂😂😂 I live in Malaysia where it is usually 70-90% humidity during rainy season, a little less during dry season. I use super chunky mix because if I dont, i might experience rootrot from waiting for soil to dry. Some of my hoyas are still in cocohusk chunk (cocochip) and I water it everyday. Some even left outside and get rained on almost 4-5 times per week but that is how it is when it is in nature. When I walk round the orchard and found some hoya on the ground, i notice it grew on leaf compost and went up a tree, intermingling with ferns and orchids, so I try to make my mix well aerated like those in nature
I pinned your comment so people will see how hoyas grow in nature :) Thank you for writing that out 💚 Yes, they super chunky mix and lots of water - that's what they will like and that's how they grow fast. :) It's not even the humidity. But chunky mix like yours is necessary because of super high humidity. I hope you get many lovely blooms!
My parent got a hoya and they live in Kluang where its a hilly area and I can say, getting rain almost everyday and windy too. The hoya plant direct to the ground so I'm not sure how the roots goes but I guess to do well since it flowering non stop. One thing for sure the location/ how the setting where hoya is plant is important. Getting wet by rain but dries up fast by the wind is maybe the reason.
@@snowyyukim1276 dried fast is the key. At first i was struggling because I didnt understand because most said they water after 2-3 weeks but then after seeing it in the wild and understand these plant are from our region, i get that daily they get rained on in the wild, but dried off fast. Now all of mine in fast draining. I dont mind watering almost daily because i am such a clingy hoya mom 😂😂😂
Hoya Curtisii is the first Hoya I got and it is doing so well. I used coco coir with perlite, bark, horticultural charcoal and pumice. It is directly in a southeast window and loves it. I am in Canada and right now we are in the dead of winter and it’s growing really well
💚💚💚 Thank you for being the best and most knowledgebale scientist/ plant grower I know and also a wonderful person. Y'ALL READING THIS GO WATCH HER CHANNEL 😂
I encountered something very interesting. I bought a small Hoya undulata on ebay for about ~25€, it was planted in some stoney substrate and the roots did not look good. I gave it a chunky mix in a transparent pot, again no rootgroth... So I bought a 4,250 L glas with a lid, took some pine bark and forest moss (not spaghnum), made a drainage with stones in the pot as well as in ther glas, inserted a layer of pine bark and soil, and placed a lot of forest moss on it (Like done in this experiment were some guy put soil, moss and a plant into a large glas, closed it and never opened it up for 30 years so the glas become its own eco-system), in the center sits the small undulata, in its tiny transparent pot with some bark and forest moss... and after some time the undulata went nuts, pushing out a new leaf like there is no tomorrow (While the two older leaves are strict green, this new one has the typical green/red/splash pattern), growing roots everywhere and some roots grow even out of the substrate on top of the pot. I bearly water the plant since the moisture within the glas seem to never let the substrate dry out. The 4,x L glas is placed on a west-window. Hopefully one day I can get the undulata out of the glas without killing it.
This is literally the first video that I found very informative! I keep killing my Hoyas because I’m so scared to water them because everyone says don’t water them much. I followed everyone’s rule that water my Hindu rope when leaves start to pucker but by that time I water and they just get worse and worse! I can keep all my Calatheas beautiful and everyone says those are hard and Hoya is like a walk in the park!! I’m going to try your method and pray I don’t kill my other Hoyas
Oh, not a sir yet! Though I had to google how young people write 'what'. I couldn't decide if it's 'wot', 'wat' or 'wut'. Maybe I am old! I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Okay, so after a very long time of trial and error with hoya mixes and figuring out stuff on my own, I can attest to the fact that every single word you said is 110% truth. Even down to the species you mentioned (esp. undulata). Thank you for making this video to help other hoya hoes figure stuff out, I wish I had this video to reference when I first got into hoya! I love your channel and I love anyone who is a hoya hoe like me.
good advice...and thank you as usual. Here in Jakarta, Indonesia we just stick them to a wood-cut (usually pine tree), wrap them with living moss, and water them every day, or once in 2 days. And most of them love very bright light and even full sun.
I live in Wisconsin, USA - harsh winters and humid summers. I use a general potting mix, pumice, and a medium sized bark equal parts. My pots are either ceramic or plastic with holes for drainage. When I water, I let the water go through a couple of times to be sure everything is wet. I use a moisture meter to be sure the mix is completely dry before I water again. My Hoya are all pretty young, less than a year old. They need weekly watering now in summer, and I am sure will need less often in the winter. They are all doing very well! I love your humor, and the knowledge you share in all of your videos! Thank you!
I use a similar mix to you, except more peat because I live in dry ass Ohio. I also bottom water with a mix of tap water and like 1:10 fish water from my female betta sorority tank. The bettas don’t like nitrates but the plants sure do. ;p I grouped most of my plants on one shelf to help keep up the humidity, they also share a grow light.
I have made that mistake of using the cactus soil mix because I wanted a well draining soil only to find that it is really not well aerated at all, and becomes very compact.
Yes, that is true. It happened to me also in a mix where I added bark. It compacts over time even with peat, perlite and bark as organic media break down, especially when moisture hangs around for long period of time. But I am glad you saw that mistake on time!
Best video for a Hoya newbie like me. There are a lot of misconceptions. People like me are looking for the info and sometimes people will give a short answer based on what little they know or misinformation they have. We have to all learn by trial and error unless informative videos like this can hasten our learning. So thanks for making this informative video. And I love your personality and wit too.
Oh and I live in Houston, Texas where summers can get stifling hot in the three-digits degrees and humidity is low. So if I keep my Hoyas outside, I use Orchid potting mix, organic regular potting mix, and perlite. I use a ratio of 2:2:1. The Orchid mix & perlite allows for good aeration and good drainage. And my organic potting mix has some peat moss which gives it a good fair amount of moisture retention during this high heat/low humidity Houston summer weather.
Thanks for another great video. I’m going to repot some of my hoya’s now. Some aren’t thriving and I think you explained why. So thanks I learned a lot!
@@BasiePlants My Hoya obovata, Hoya sunrise, Hoya nummulariodes , Hoya lacunosa royal flush, Hoya Macrophylla albomarginata just aren’t growing. They aren’t dying thank goodness. I’ve had them all for months and nothing. All my other Hoyas are doing well. I checked the roots and they are fine. So I think I’m going to change the soil and see what happens.
Omg Miro, this might win the price for the most informative hoya video I ever watched. Thank you so much! I thought I had found the perfect hoya mix. My plants were very happy with my coir/bark/perlite/lava mix during summer. But then winter came and my mix now stays wet for way too long. They are all slowly dying. I think my problem lies with temperatures being too low. Ironically, those that are doing best are those that I left in the coco plug they came with. I will take my time to experiment and find a better solution for the survivors when spring finally arrives. In the meantime I am chopping and propagating everything I think I am losing. Fingers crossed that some will make it!
I am sure they will make it! I know you pick the stronger ones anyways. The thing I dislike about coconut plug the most is that it is wrapped so tightly. So even if you want to change it, it's hard. You can achieve the same effect with pure bark and bark is lose, so you can remove it. However, I think coconut plug is cheaper and more available? Good quality bark is often more expensive. It does make sense to me that coco plug would work better in lower temperatures as it really doesn't hold on to moisture all that much. Even bark is not moisture-retentive. Some brands actually treat their bark to repell water. Your mix sounds good, so maybe you can introduce a net pot to help it dry out? Or use a chopstick? Though I know you have a higher himidity as well, so maybe you can just go with bark. I wouldn't try semi hydro in your conditions, it would be too cold.
@@finestracheride I am sure it will! Ah shame, you don't want to melt net pots like I do? 😂 No one is crazy aboht melting. I gave my soldering iron a good run.
Haha instantly subscribed because I love your sense of humor! And thank you for mentioning that most plant-shops/ -nurseries have no clue how to water their plats in a healthy way, so that the customer doesn't buy a plant, which is pretty much healthy looking but has rotten roots inside😩 even smelling the pot every single time, I still end up with a zombieplant from time to time. Therefore (learning from many lessons) I report some type of plants right away, too which is an extremely stressful situation for acclimatization, but you know...what else can you do?! Parenting sometimes means being able to cope with sacrifices 😭 last September I bought the most beautiful Bordeaux-ish orchid and it was in full bloom - looking too sexy for it's cover-pot! after a week "the dying" started and one by one it dropped all it's flowers and buds. I looked at the roots and after I got the orchid-bark out I saw that not only did the 3 little Woodstick's rot and infected all the bark around them but also the roots and the main stem had completely rotten because they were wrapped in a layer of soaked sphagnum moss pretty tightly 🤯 wtf?! I was sooooo pissed because i bought it in the kind of "higher quality -nursery" I trusted all these years! since then I keep noticing more and more drops in the quality of plants and of the substrates they use. @Basie Plants: do you think this is due to the current ( slowly getting a little better🙏 ) hype around houseplants and therefore rising pressure in order to please the increasing demand for plants? And Do you think it will normalize, once the "main hype" is over? It really frustrates me because i don't have a better option for plantshopping in the nearby whatsoever! Should I seek a conversation in the shop or just go somewhere else right away? It happened to two other plants I bought there, too You did an excellent job on the further explanation on the whole moisture retention- watering- drainage - cycle ! 👍 Thank you for making me laugh today!
I would love a video on how to determine what our plants are already potted in from the store. I never really know what is good and what is bad, when I should let it alone or completely repot🤓 Love your channel❤️
Thank you so much for this video. And for the humour :) It made things clearer in my mind. Thank you also to not do like other "hoya youtubers" who give solutions that actually only work for them - like to put hoya bella constantly in water while living in a very dry region somewhere in the USA... I'll use then something like an aroid substrate for most of my hoyas, and mght add a little bit of humus for the most delicates of themalso . Now I understand why latest hoya bella is surviving better as all others I have/had, since this one is not in peat and gets way less water/moisture.
OMH THANK YOU !!! You are the best, PLEASE don't stop talking about hoyas - ever :D I butchered my curtisii out of that coconut plug :D and it's now in sphagnum moss, I'll try to root it. Same to my retusa and sigillatis. I hope they will root. And I hope I will not need to do this to my linearis - it looks so fragile to me ( and I think it's my favorite hoya right now) when I bought it from a local plant shop it was in a peat moss (retusa also, because I bought them from the same shop) and they where soaking - I think they just dumped them in a bucket full of water and tried to drown them :DD so the first thing I did - I dried them with paper towel for TWO DAYS always changing to new paper towel and after peat moss had dried out I repoted my linearis. It now lives in regular poting mix with LOTS of orchid bark and perlit :D
I will never stop making hoya videos. Even if the put tape over my mouth. Oh, curtisii rooted fast for me. I love it! They water with a hose usually. It's the fastest way for them to do it, but unfortunately, very bad for coco peat. Coco peat soaks up water like crazy. The same goes for peat. I think you did well! Keep me updated on how they do, please!
Sydney, Australia . I am using 1/3 succulent/catus, 1/3 orchid, 1/3 perlite (summer rayn recipe). I am just starting so will see how that goes. I learn a lot with your videos so heaps of thanks. Will be repotting all my Hoya Australis (5) in terracotta pots already bought with the Australis 1 month ago. I water all my plants with tap water . Oh well if they can’t survive, that’s Darwin’s Law. I grow up in Vietnam. Hehehe. I can’t collect rain water. Distilled water would be an luxury expense that I can’t afford.
If your tap water is good, it's not necessary :) My tap water is very hard - around 400ppm. White stains on glass, lot of calcium deposits. That mix sounds good, but I prefer to stay away from cacti mixes. All that I tried here are not great. But, different countries have different mixes, so your cacti mix can work out great for you!
@@BasiePlants fortunately tap water is good here. Well, I have been drinking it since I arrived here. Hehehehe my succulent / cactus mix seem airy. I don’t know if it can retain water. Will have to see about that. I am repotting the rest of the Hoya as soon as I get some mix. They are not in coconut husk. None of the plants I bought are . I think they are from local growers. Before I only used the garden soil at the back of the unit which has very good soil (I am drawing my knowledge from Vietnam). Nowaday I mix a bit more bark and perlite . The garden soil has heaps of roots and branches and leaves which is good. The Australian Facebook group all believe Hoya need to be dried out completely. It rains a lot most of the time in the tropic. I was in Indonesia refugee camp. It rains almost non stop there. There are moss and mush on tree branches nooks and crane to keep the moisture. Yeh that makes sense if the root are died for long the will die. I think most indoor planters are city dwellers. They have never had a garden or even have some experience in farming. There are so much misinformation that go around. I notice people buying rare plants but don’t know how to care or bough dying plants on clearance and expect the group to save it hahaha.
And this guy really seems to know his hoyas!❤️😎 Very good, informative video. Thank you! ( when people are saying that they water their hoyas once a month, I’m like: WHAT!?!!)
🤣 ”I like perlite too much" "mud castles" So many Miro gems in this video. But also SO informative. Thank you for helping me understand the difference between aeration and well draining. Hoyalicious. 😂
Did I tell you I wrote some lyrics to parody "Sandcastles" by Beyonce? That is how mudcastles were created. I am glad you found it informative. Even though it was a hoya video :D Hoyabulos day to you my friend!
For epiphytic hoyas, I use a mix of 1/3 regular soil mix, 1/3 perlite and 1/3 orchid bark, and I will throw a bit of charcoal in it, because drainage. I water about once every 7 to 10 days depending on the hoya. For the terrestrial types, I use 1/2 regular soil and 1/2 perlite.There are species for which I use crushed egg shells too, since they like a more limestony environment (according to Summer Rayne Oakes if you've ever watchd her videos). I found out in the past year that I really enjoy customizing my soil mixes, and boy do I add perlite everywhere too XD
Yes, I watched most of her videos :) I use fertilizer with calcium in it as calcium is important for new growth of many plants, not just nitrogen. There is a video out there by Rick L. Orchids about the importance of calcium for new growth. I didn't have much luck with my imperialis (terestrial hoya as you know) in organic media. It was in pretty much the same setup as you said for your terestrial hoyas, with eggshells and it didn't like it at all. So I took cuttings, moved it to semi hydro and now it's taking off. Go figure! It was properly still a mix/ watering issue as not everything works for every environment. But it's an interesting and unexpected thing I think!
Thank you thank you thank you! You just got yourself a new subscriber. It’s SO HARD to find plant people (influencers? experts?) online that don’t say “oh just throw every single plant into some miracle grow bagged soil”. My plant issues have always been soil related, but I didn’t know that until I started doing extensive research. I thought I just had a black thumb. I was constantly losing plants to root rot.
Thank you for subscribing! 💚 Yes, I think most of the issues we face are due to improper potting mix. I find this works really well for hoyas, just as long as you don't forget to water.
Hey I liked your video. It was very educating. I love growing Hojas. I have a green thumb and the overgrown dream. My passion for growing plants started when I was a toddler. My mother used to grow tropical plants in the living room at our house in new england and I used to sit in th he mitsd of them and pretend i was in a jungle. I started cloning my mother's hoja in my late teens. Hoja is my favorite plant to grow. I learned a lot about them in your video. I currently am growing a hoja that my mom grew for more than 20 years. I cloned it today. I am hoping to get many full size hojas growing soon. I was wondering if you have any tips or methods to trigger flowering indoors. My mother has hojas at her house and they flower every year indoors but mine have never flowered. I was also curious if you have any knowledge of growing citrus plants from seed?
I just got my first Hoyas so no clue what works here in the desert. I bought them from a local shop. I think the mix is ok. Lots of bark. It's very pretty.
So I Live in Southeast Texas USA and it is 100* and 80-90% humidity in summer and cold and no humidity in winter! I have been using equal parts of Orchid bark mix, succulent mix and perlite. So far it works and I just water much less in Winter.
Hello 👋 ran into you video just started my hoya collection been growing orchids for a few years now my 1st hoya was the bella and she grows in orchiata and kiwi mix with just a few strands of spagnum moss my environment is meduim to warm so bella and my other hoyas are thriving I water once a week and feed every 2ks....happy growing💞💞
Trying to rescue a Lowe’s Hoya carnosa right now. This is the video all plant TH-camrs need to make, but don’t. THANK YOU!!! I tried waiting two weeks like everyone says to do and it didn’t dry out so the roots died even more. I lost a lot, but it was cheap and the cuttings look good, so I will have something left…
‘Accept differences” great advice. I have a question. Everything I’ve read about Hoyas is that they hate wet feet. But I’m seeing that some of yours have beautiful, healthy roots and they are sitting in Water. I feel like I’ve been depriving my babies of moisture. Changing my watering habits. Thank you.
I always repot .....I mean what else is there to do? Lol 😂 I like moss for props with a heat mat and a lot of light. However for bigger plants 🪴 I like orchid bark, moss, perlite, little bit of charcoal. My pots Terra-cotta or clear orchid pots. But I use a serious aspect light and a great humidifier. Hoyas do love moisture. I need to water at least once a week or twice with some Hoyas. Great content ❤️🌱
I am glad that there are more people out there who believe in water. It seems to me a lot of the issues people have is because they deprive them of water. The same goes for orchids, really. I never tried moss with hoyas, but it does work well for other plants. I assume it works well for hoyas too, there's no reason it wouldn't :D
Thanks so much for this video! I live somewhere dry and high altitude (Wyoming, USA) and used your base mix and added in some potting soil w/perlite and extra sphagnum moss. Can’t wait to see how my Hoyas do!
You are welcome! Man, I wish I had new hoyas to repot. I can't wait for spring to order and root more cuttings. Hands are shaking over here. #addict I hope they do well in the new mix!
With some hoyas like lacunosa (the finer root ones) people let it dry out too much, the roots die and then if you water it, the dead roots start to rot and people mistake it for overwatering. I think this is the case for the undulata.
Yes. It happens with caudata, flagellata, meredithii - basically any finer root hoya. Obscura is far more resilient, for example. Bella? Water monster. 😂
@@BasiePlants I'm a bit confused now since I heard in another, brilliant video of you that it doesn't like too much water/moisture. This is at least what I understood and could then relate to my latest (hanging) hoya bella which I didn't water a lot these last months under grow light and which nevertheless seemed to be very, very well, at the contrary to all my former hoyas that died one after the other. But it's all a question of air humidity and more of less airy soil, right?
Excellent video. I can't imagine the effort that went into making it. Well done. Oh - btw - I've found that a coarse grind coffee, with some orchid bark mixed in, (make sure the orchid bark is ground finer than the coffee) taken once each morning makes you one with the plants. They appreciate a kindred soul. (Don't ever use pearlite because it doesn't break down and is terrible coming out, and coco coir tends to bind one up!)
Glad to hear it! It did take a bit haha. I spent about 8 hours on a scene that didn't make it in the video. So that's a shame! But maybe I can redo it and use it for another video :) I think I will stick to just milk in my coffee 😂 Bark and coco peat don't taste nice :(
Hahahahaha. Garden nursery’s are trying to make a mud castle. 😂 So True. Even in Australia 🇦🇺 most seam to want to drown the Hoya. Constantly chop and prop the new Hoya I buy as plant insurance. The mother usually dies as they are to far gone but the prop survived.
Yeah, definitely the best to do that, if the plant is big enough. And sometimes it's easier than removing coconut husk. I am not sure if you get them in that but we sure do!
Miro! I now have a beautiful rooted variegated heuschkeliana cutting in sphagnum moss! Could you please tell me what mix and conditions in which your heuschkeliana has had success? Yours is quite lovey and is one of my favorites of yours! Thank you for your knowledge and expertise.
Great video, thanks Miro! It seems i'm on the right way with my hoyas. I use an orchid mix with large proportion of bark, add a generous amount of perlite and charcoal. My hoyas grow at about 50% of humidity. I tried a net pot only once for H. buotii and it didn't work in my contidions, it turned to be too dry for the roots. I water my hoyas accordingly to the amount of light they get; less ligtht - less water. I let all of them dry between watering, some longer than others.
With net pots, they need a whole lot of water. It does well for me because my humidity goes from 60% to 80% (and above if I don't turn on my dehumidifier on time). Did you use a cover pot with the net pot? Of course, not everyting works for every environment and every lifestyle. I keep a 10l sprayer next to my hoyas, so I can water them all in 5 minutes :)
Oh my! Totally loved this video! I learned so much! Thank you! And you are aooooo funny! I hope you have lots more videos I can watch...keep them coming! 💚
Temperate climate in Sweden and quite dry, no humidifier an almost no watering in the winter. I have my Hoyas in my southfacing windows mostly, but with IKEA Schottis (a thin jalousie) for protection from the sun. My Hoya australis 'Lisa' is in spaghnum and bark with a very thin layer of peat on top in a terracotta pot. I have several in pure pumice. Or as my Hoya compacta i kept the soil around the roots, and then planted it in a very big pot with pure pumice. Pumice is magical in comparison to leca though in my opinon. It can be used as a diy self draining pot. I much prefer it for leca in semihydro because pumice is less wet so no need for the roots to convert to the higher moisture level that some people experince. My Hoya kerri is in coir in the middle because I was afraid of damaging the roots by removing it all, but all around I have pure pumice and I keep it quite moist, it is super happy and it even grew in my north facing window over the winter. Aslo on a more seriouse note, cococoir is very bad for the workes, as they develop lung diseases as well as working to many days a week. So I won't buy it! Especially since pumice is a much better medium, it is also environtmentally better than perlite. Because perlite is man made, it is popped in heated ovens which create hazardous fumes. Pumice is straight from the volcano to your pot, more environmentally friendly, and pumice does'nt crumble and can be resused over and over. Thank you for this video, I just bought a Hoya latifolia with outer variegation.....and not a macrophylla albomarginata I guess haha, Hoya names....drives me crazy. Sorry for the rant, Be well!!!
What a helpful video I just got my Hoya Carnosa I am not sure what the max is in the higher but it looks very happy so I won’t be changing a tire needs to
Thank you so much for this! So informative! I’m in Texas, usually pretty humid. My home is usually about 50-60% humidity level, and I use a mix of orchid bark, perlite, charcoal, worm castings, and a small percentage of soil. So far it’s working for me, but have only been collecting Hoya for a year. I’m sure my mix will continue to evolve! Your content is so helpful. Thanks again!
Oh yes. Your mix will evolve for sure! I mean, it's a great mix. But over time, we start to experiment more and test more. At least I do 😂 always searching for something that works better :D Thank you so much for watching 💚
OMG WHY IS THE DRAWER OPEN I CAN’T 😂 1. Roots don’t actually turn to dust. They fall apart when they are dry too. (When it's overwatered, they fall apart and are mushy, when they are dry, they also fall apart, but like... dry plant matter 😂) 2. White stuff on the bark is from preventative spider mite treatment :) You can see some on the leaves as well :)
Hi, Miro! I appreciate your rational correlation: growing mix, water, temperature. It's fit to my location, here in Romania. I was looking for new trellisis, and you insipred me. Thanks!
Yes! And of course, adjust according to your conditions and lifestyle :) Oh, not my original idea for the trellises but I hope you can make some for yourself!
Super informative video! So that tecnique that you tryed! Of putting spagnum in the bottom an midle and mixed with bark it worked?? Is it that mix you showed in another video??😘?
Yes, that is the technique! It works really well :) All hoyas that are in organic media are mostly in that mix now, except for those that I was too lazy to repot.
@@BasiePlants uuuu brilliant! Just tryed it out with 3 of my hoyas! If everything goes well!! Ill tag you on insta with updates 😋!! Thank you so much for this new tecnike 😘😘😘 looks very promissing,i used my most precious and favourite bark xD ,its actually meant to be used as a snake media 🐍😅🤗💚🌱
Wow i need to watch this like 100 times. So much info. Hey any suggestions on monstera? We are in a sub tropical central Texas. And summer are hot, and some humidity, about 7 to 8 months warn to hot to over 100 by August. Right now, indoors for winter, my babys are dropping leaves, and dying.
Oh, 100 times might be too much of me! :D Did you check for pests? What kind of die back is it? Is it getting enough light and is it getting enough water? Or perpahs too much water? I water my monsteras once a week. They are in plastic pots with coco peat, perlite, bark, LECA. They are under an LED light (36W) and near a north-west facing window. My humidity is 60% and temeprature around 23 degrees of Celsius. Maybe that helps :)
Perfect timing Miro! I've used an orchid mix which is mainly bark and expanded clay pellets... It has worked well for me in the past but just today I found my Chouke drying from the bottom up and the roots have pretty much completely died back... I had recently moved that hoya (for better light) and I forgot to water it... for a month! 😭 Rescue mission under way, still viable stems are now in sphagnum moss in a propagation box. Wish me luck! 🤞
Ouch! A months is a bit too long! But, luckly for you, rooting 'Chouke' is a piece of cake. I think I have one too! Got it by accident. It was supposed to be 'Mathilde' but it is definitely not. We will see when it blooms!
I have used Orchid Bark with Perlite and Coconut chips but am finding it is too chunky for my smaller plants which need to be watered frequently. I think I need to add more Coco Choir to these pots. Thank you for the good information.
Please give me the recipe on the trellis. And how do you remove bark from coffee 😂😂 You are a very wise young man that God forbid has grown up. You are perfect as you are.. Love your humor and you are very very wise and good to give your knowledge. I grow mine in humidity of 47° and the mix is orchid bark, perlite, Leca and a bit of charcoal. It works fine and I water 1x a week but some have 2x a week Hoya bella ex
Haha :D Trellis is from the rabbit fence. Torill came up with this, then Doug Chamberlain showed in his videos how to make them, so I did it too! Super cheap and very functional! You don't remove bark from coffee :( You have to make a new cup of coffee! Especially when perlite and peat get in the coffee too. Not very tasty! I am glad your hoyas are loving your mix and the conditions. And yes, bella is always thirsty. I can't say I am loving that, sometimes I want to put a bucket of water under hear and figure out how to DIY self-irrigation 😂
@@BasiePlants your so funny.. Always makes me laugh tell my cheeks heart from lactic intolerance 😂😂 Thank you for all your advice about coffee which I don't drink and a bit of perlite makes the human fertilizer airy and light.. I but about 100kg a year.😂😂😂 Im sorry Miro.. I can't help myself. Love you and have a nice new week 😉
I have net pots that I get in hydroponics store. I also use cover pots with those, but those are only from a local store, and aren't distributed outside Serbia sadly.
None of my Hoyas bloom. Hopefully things will improve after try some of the new things I learned from you today. I live in Albuquerque and most of the time is very dry.
Hi, love the video I just purchase my 1st Hoya a Hoya Mathilde. You mention in the video that Hoya likes a lot of Air. Would it be ok to use orchid bark as a medium?
My hoyas are in coco coir ( cause I’m allergic to all soil citizens), pumice and perlite. They’re growing in terracotta pots. I have different conditions during through the year, so it depends on weather how I water them, if it’s rainny for couple weeks And it’s autumn or winter I stop on watering for longer period (14-16 days).. it depends on weight of pot, if I notice that it is light, I’ll give it water naturally. In Spring and Summer my schedule of watering changing to 7 days, but when they actively growing I might change it to 5 if it’s hot and dry. So as you were saying: we must keep watching our hoyas and their needs❤️
Yes. There is no universal thing. It depends on your lifestyle, hoya you have, your condtions and even the pot. There are many factors that I didn't mention or didn't discuss deeper but I think than it would have been an hour long video and TH-cam would ban me from the platform. 😂
I found that once I increased the aeration in my Hoya soil(s), I saw an immediate response in growth. Giving them brighter light levels and water was also a factor. I plan to continue experimenting with different combinations of soil amendments. 🖤
That's such a good discovery though! I think about my plants all the time, so I was very happy when I finally made the connection. And also, I love to experiment as well.
I have 70+% humidity as well, but I stopped using net pots for hoyas because they end up drying out too quickly :/ Maybe cause it’s too hot here in australia. Also it was hard to repot them out of the net pots cause the roots are so easily damaged when removing them from the net pot. Ended up changing them to terracotta or plastic pots. I use an epiphytic mix as well though! Definitely still trying to figure out a good mix, cause while all my hoyas are Alive and Have Roots (yay), some of them are not growing much. Thank you for all the good info in this video! I will try all of your advice except for the net pots because I am still mad at them lol
They work great for me in a cover pot. I don't mind watering twice a week and my temperature is around 23 degrees of Celsius. Did you try to soak them before repotting? Maybe that would help with the roots. I did repot some of the smaller ones from small net pots to larger net pots and I didn't have any issues. Sure, you lose tiny bit of root, but they didn't mind that one single bit. I dislike terracotta because it adds to my humidity and it didn't dry out evenly for me. Yeah, it's all really a process. I am constantly experimenting too. Haha forgive the net pots! :D Maybe orchid pots with holes? A lot of people do that in the orchid community :)
@@BasiePlants Yeah orchid pots with holes work great for my bigger hoyas! I only have big orchid pots, but maybe I’ll make some little ones with a soldering iron like you suggested 🙂 Thanks for telling me about soaking before repotting, I wasn’t doing that! OK I might try net pots again on some cuttings, the root growth was really really good. It’s been 25-30°C here and anything in small terracotta or net pots dries out overnight, which is just too often to be watering plants!
Central Florida, I am trying to transition to outside where winters are super dry and summer supper wet😖 I use coco coir chunk as my base with bark, #3 perilite and charcoal.
I live in the USA in Ohio. I have a lot of my Hoya outside during the summer-we get high humidity and a lot of sunshine. Currently however, it’s cold af. 20° and will be snowy-grey-gloomy weather until about mid April. As of right now all of the hoya are inside. I have a lot of my Hoya in semi-hydro and a have (basically) the rest of them in my own mix. My mix consists of perlite, horticultural charcoal, orchid mix (bark and perlite), peat moss and worm castings. I water them with well water with superthrive every watering. Some are in my grow tent and get 12 hours of grow light time-while the rest are on my “Hoya shelf” which is open faced and has grow lights on 24/7. The room stays at about 45-55% humidity and the tent is 70-80% Some Hoya love semi-hydro and some hate it. Some love the soil mix-some prefer to be in semi-hydro. I’ve been really curious about PON. Maybe if semi hydro just takes a crap on me I’ll give pon a go 😂 or use my more common hoya to experiment on it with in case they don’t vibe with it. Hoya are weird. As you mentioned, they’re like humans. Some like a lot of light - but if you put polyneura under a grow light she’ll fight you. Some are thirsty like Bella-some will disintegrate if you water them too much. It’s all about finding balance and just listening to what they tell you. Hoya WILL for sure tell you when they’re happy or when they’re pissed.
Bella will definitely not appreciate drying out xD So far, it seems all of them liked semi hydro in my home. Which ones didn't like it for you? I was very surprised to find out terestrial hoyas like imperialis love semi hydro. It is growing much better for me now than it did in organic media. I think semi hydro is good becase it takes out that human error out of growing plants and keeps them evenly moist, so you can't mess up the watering. There are several adjustments you can make to SH depending on the plant and what it likes. I am slowly going through those paces so maybe one day I will have a comprehensive video about that as well! :D
Surprisingly, my polyneura did NOT like semi-hydro! It developed a nutrient deficiency and needed cal-mag. I transferred it to my custom mix and it’s put out 2 nodes in a month. So much quicker growth than I was getting. Also it’s loving the grow tents humidity. I saw a really full, lush poly recently and it made me incredibly envious-especially when he told me it was 6 months of growth from a 2 node cutting! So, I threw mine into humidity and praying for a monster 😂
@@plantymomma3980 they will always need very good nutes in SH. I use rainmix and it has calcium and magnesium. But that is important for other plants too. Good stuff to add once in a while :)
100L of perlite... I feel u 😂😂😂
I live in Malaysia where it is usually 70-90% humidity during rainy season, a little less during dry season. I use super chunky mix because if I dont, i might experience rootrot from waiting for soil to dry. Some of my hoyas are still in cocohusk chunk (cocochip) and I water it everyday. Some even left outside and get rained on almost 4-5 times per week but that is how it is when it is in nature. When I walk round the orchard and found some hoya on the ground, i notice it grew on leaf compost and went up a tree, intermingling with ferns and orchids, so I try to make my mix well aerated like those in nature
I pinned your comment so people will see how hoyas grow in nature :) Thank you for writing that out 💚 Yes, they super chunky mix and lots of water - that's what they will like and that's how they grow fast. :) It's not even the humidity. But chunky mix like yours is necessary because of super high humidity. I hope you get many lovely blooms!
hai dalinkkk fiona we meet here hahaha
@@WilnaWanderlust hello darling!! Nice meeting u here too😂😂
My parent got a hoya and they live in Kluang where its a hilly area and I can say, getting rain almost everyday and windy too. The hoya plant direct to the ground so I'm not sure how the roots goes but I guess to do well since it flowering non stop. One thing for sure the location/ how the setting where hoya is plant is important. Getting wet by rain but dries up fast by the wind is maybe the reason.
@@snowyyukim1276 dried fast is the key. At first i was struggling because I didnt understand because most said they water after 2-3 weeks but then after seeing it in the wild and understand these plant are from our region, i get that daily they get rained on in the wild, but dried off fast. Now all of mine in fast draining. I dont mind watering almost daily because i am such a clingy hoya mom 😂😂😂
Omg I can’t take it. How are you so funny and so informative at the same time. I freaking loved this video. They just keep getting better!
💚💚💚I think it comes with the older age 😂 I am getting crazier as well.
This guy really seems to like plants.
😂 Poop bags still kill me.
This lady named Betsy Begonia really seems to like plants as well 🌿🌱🍃🌴🌾😘
Yes and his hoyas 🥰
plants like him perhaps. Especially Hoyas and orchids.
, i literally just started to seaech for hoya potting mix when you said no one asked you!! ❤ 🌱🦋🌿 ❤
Hoya Curtisii is the first Hoya I got and it is doing so well. I used coco coir with perlite, bark, horticultural charcoal and pumice. It is directly in a southeast window and loves it. I am in Canada and right now we are in the dead of winter and it’s growing really well
I love when plant vids have some humor mixed in. Very funny and informative.
Why do I love Sundays? Because after work, it's Miro time! 💗 Thankyou for just generally being a lovely person.
💚💚💚 Thank you for being the best and most knowledgebale scientist/ plant grower I know and also a wonderful person. Y'ALL READING THIS GO WATCH HER CHANNEL 😂
@@BasiePlants 😂💗💗
I encountered something very interesting. I bought a small Hoya undulata on ebay for about ~25€, it was planted in some stoney substrate and the roots did not look good.
I gave it a chunky mix in a transparent pot, again no rootgroth... So I bought a 4,250 L glas with a lid, took some pine bark and forest moss (not spaghnum), made a drainage with stones in the pot as well as in ther glas, inserted a layer of pine bark and soil, and placed a lot of forest moss on it (Like done in this experiment were some guy put soil, moss and a plant into a large glas, closed it and never opened it up for 30 years so the glas become its own eco-system), in the center sits the small undulata, in its tiny transparent pot with some bark and forest moss... and after some time the undulata went nuts, pushing out a new leaf like there is no tomorrow (While the two older leaves are strict green, this new one has the typical green/red/splash pattern), growing roots everywhere and some roots grow even out of the substrate on top of the pot. I bearly water the plant since the moisture within the glas seem to never let the substrate dry out. The 4,x L glas is placed on a west-window. Hopefully one day I can get the undulata out of the glas without killing it.
Super informative, thank you for taking the time to make this. It's always a joy to watch your videos. 💚
💚 It's fun to make them. Especially with copious amounts of face cream. 😂 (going for that beauty sponsorship 😂)
Love how you actually take the time to explain
Thank you 💚 I am glad to hear you do :)
This is literally the first video that I found very informative! I keep killing my Hoyas because I’m so scared to water them because everyone says don’t water them much. I followed everyone’s rule that water my Hindu rope when leaves start to pucker but by that time I water and they just get worse and worse! I can keep all my Calatheas beautiful and everyone says those are hard and Hoya is like a walk in the park!! I’m going to try your method and pray I don’t kill my other Hoyas
So grateful still that I found this channel! You are a treasure, sir! Also very knowledgeable.
Oh, not a sir yet! Though I had to google how young people write 'what'. I couldn't decide if it's 'wot', 'wat' or 'wut'. Maybe I am old! I am glad you enjoyed the video!
You’re so funny!! Thanks for the laughs and the educational info!!
That might be the best video I've ever seen on TH-cam 😊 informative and funny
😂 There are probably better 😃 But I appreciate your kind words so much 💚
Okay, so after a very long time of trial and error with hoya mixes and figuring out stuff on my own, I can attest to the fact that every single word you said is 110% truth. Even down to the species you mentioned (esp. undulata). Thank you for making this video to help other hoya hoes figure stuff out, I wish I had this video to reference when I first got into hoya! I love your channel and I love anyone who is a hoya hoe like me.
I love hoya hoe 😆
good advice...and thank you as usual. Here in Jakarta, Indonesia we just stick them to a wood-cut (usually pine tree), wrap them with living moss, and water them every day, or once in 2 days. And most of them love very bright light and even full sun.
The best explanation I’ve ever watching about Hoya care tips here in TH-cam. I love it and really such a big help for me.
I live in Wisconsin, USA - harsh winters and humid summers. I use a general potting mix, pumice, and a medium sized bark equal parts. My pots are either ceramic or plastic with holes for drainage. When I water, I let the water go through a couple of times to be sure everything is wet. I use a moisture meter to be sure the mix is completely dry before I water again. My Hoya are all pretty young, less than a year old. They need weekly watering now in summer, and I am sure will need less often in the winter. They are all doing very well! I love your humor, and the knowledge you share in all of your videos! Thank you!
I use a similar mix to you, except more peat because I live in dry ass Ohio. I also bottom water with a mix of tap water and like 1:10 fish water from my female betta sorority tank. The bettas don’t like nitrates but the plants sure do. ;p I grouped most of my plants on one shelf to help keep up the humidity, they also share a grow light.
I have made that mistake of using the cactus soil mix because I wanted a well draining soil only to find that it is really not well aerated at all, and becomes very compact.
Yes, that is true. It happened to me also in a mix where I added bark. It compacts over time even with peat, perlite and bark as organic media break down, especially when moisture hangs around for long period of time. But I am glad you saw that mistake on time!
Made this mistake and will be getting orchid mix ASAP.
Best video for a Hoya newbie like me. There are a lot of misconceptions. People like me are looking for the info and sometimes people will give a short answer based on what little they know or misinformation they have. We have to all learn by trial and error unless informative videos like this can hasten our learning. So thanks for making this informative video. And I love your personality and wit too.
Oh and I live in Houston, Texas where summers can get stifling hot in the three-digits degrees and humidity is low. So if I keep my Hoyas outside, I use Orchid potting mix, organic regular potting mix, and perlite. I use a ratio of 2:2:1. The Orchid mix & perlite allows for good aeration and good drainage. And my organic potting mix has some peat moss which gives it a good fair amount of moisture retention during this high heat/low humidity Houston summer weather.
Thanks for another great video. I’m going to repot some of my hoya’s now. Some aren’t thriving and I think you explained why. So thanks I learned a lot!
I hope they start to thrive for you! Which ones are giving you a headache?
@@BasiePlants My Hoya obovata, Hoya sunrise, Hoya nummulariodes , Hoya lacunosa royal flush, Hoya Macrophylla albomarginata just aren’t growing. They aren’t dying thank goodness. I’ve had them all for months and nothing. All my other Hoyas are doing well. I checked the roots and they are fine. So I think I’m going to change the soil and see what happens.
Superbly bro. Thank you. Greetings from 🇮🇩
Your content is knowledgeable and entertaining. Thank you! I love it 💚✨
You are a STAR! 🥰🤩
✨💫🌟⭐️ 😂 Thank you. That is sweet to say. 💚
Very informative lessons today. Thank you.👏🏽🍀
I agree...this guy knows his stuff...im a new hoya head...need all the info I can get!!
Welcome to the hoya club! 💚
Great video! I am struggling to find the right mix for my Hoyas! Thanks for all of the information!
Omg Miro, this might win the price for the most informative hoya video I ever watched. Thank you so much!
I thought I had found the perfect hoya mix. My plants were very happy with my coir/bark/perlite/lava mix during summer. But then winter came and my mix now stays wet for way too long. They are all slowly dying. I think my problem lies with temperatures being too low. Ironically, those that are doing best are those that I left in the coco plug they came with.
I will take my time to experiment and find a better solution for the survivors when spring finally arrives. In the meantime I am chopping and propagating everything I think I am losing. Fingers crossed that some will make it!
I am sure they will make it! I know you pick the stronger ones anyways. The thing I dislike about coconut plug the most is that it is wrapped so tightly. So even if you want to change it, it's hard. You can achieve the same effect with pure bark and bark is lose, so you can remove it. However, I think coconut plug is cheaper and more available? Good quality bark is often more expensive.
It does make sense to me that coco plug would work better in lower temperatures as it really doesn't hold on to moisture all that much. Even bark is not moisture-retentive. Some brands actually treat their bark to repell water. Your mix sounds good, so maybe you can introduce a net pot to help it dry out? Or use a chopstick? Though I know you have a higher himidity as well, so maybe you can just go with bark. I wouldn't try semi hydro in your conditions, it would be too cold.
I think I will try the pure bark way this year. I just ordered 20 net pots too. Hopefully it will help ;)
@@finestracheride I am sure it will! Ah shame, you don't want to melt net pots like I do? 😂 No one is crazy aboht melting. I gave my soldering iron a good run.
Haha instantly subscribed because I love your sense of humor! And thank you for mentioning that most plant-shops/ -nurseries have no clue how to water their plats in a healthy way, so that the customer doesn't buy a plant, which is pretty much healthy looking but has rotten roots inside😩 even smelling the pot every single time, I still end up with a zombieplant from time to time. Therefore (learning from many lessons) I report some type of plants right away, too which is an extremely stressful situation for acclimatization, but you know...what else can you do?! Parenting sometimes means being able to cope with sacrifices 😭 last September I bought the most beautiful Bordeaux-ish orchid and it was in full bloom - looking too sexy for it's cover-pot! after a week "the dying" started and one by one it dropped all it's flowers and buds. I looked at the roots and after I got the orchid-bark out I saw that not only did the 3 little Woodstick's rot and infected all the bark around them but also the roots and the main stem had completely rotten because they were wrapped in a layer of soaked sphagnum moss pretty tightly 🤯 wtf?! I was sooooo pissed because i bought it in the kind of "higher quality -nursery" I trusted all these years! since then I keep noticing more and more drops in the quality of plants and of the substrates they use. @Basie Plants: do you think this is due to the current ( slowly getting a little better🙏 ) hype around houseplants and therefore rising pressure in order to please the increasing demand for plants? And Do you think it will normalize, once the "main hype" is over? It really frustrates me because i don't have a better option for plantshopping in the nearby whatsoever! Should I seek a conversation in the shop or just go somewhere else right away? It happened to two other plants I bought there, too
You did an excellent job on the further explanation on the whole moisture retention- watering- drainage - cycle ! 👍 Thank you for making me laugh today!
I would love a video on how to determine what our plants are already potted in from the store. I never really know what is good and what is bad, when I should let it alone or completely repot🤓
Love your channel❤️
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is the second time you saved my hoyas!...
Really?! Fantastic!
Thank you so much for this video. And for the humour :) It made things clearer in my mind. Thank you also to not do like other "hoya youtubers" who give solutions that actually only work for them - like to put hoya bella constantly in water while living in a very dry region somewhere in the USA... I'll use then something like an aroid substrate for most of my hoyas, and mght add a little bit of humus for the most delicates of themalso . Now I understand why latest hoya bella is surviving better as all others I have/had, since this one is not in peat and gets way less water/moisture.
OMH THANK YOU !!! You are the best, PLEASE don't stop talking about hoyas - ever :D I butchered my curtisii out of that coconut plug :D and it's now in sphagnum moss, I'll try to root it. Same to my retusa and sigillatis. I hope they will root. And I hope I will not need to do this to my linearis - it looks so fragile to me ( and I think it's my favorite hoya right now) when I bought it from a local plant shop it was in a peat moss (retusa also, because I bought them from the same shop) and they where soaking - I think they just dumped them in a bucket full of water and tried to drown them :DD so the first thing I did - I dried them with paper towel for TWO DAYS always changing to new paper towel and after peat moss had dried out I repoted my linearis. It now lives in regular poting mix with LOTS of orchid bark and perlit :D
I will never stop making hoya videos. Even if the put tape over my mouth. Oh, curtisii rooted fast for me. I love it! They water with a hose usually. It's the fastest way for them to do it, but unfortunately, very bad for coco peat. Coco peat soaks up water like crazy. The same goes for peat. I think you did well! Keep me updated on how they do, please!
@@BasiePlants I will :D I also update guys on betsys discort in plant-chat :D I think Im the worst hoya mom ever :DDDDD
Holy SHIT, I love you. Ugh yes,someone new, so full of GOOD information and HILARIOUS. I wanna be friendsssssss
Haha I am glad to hear that! :D
Since hoyas are similar to orchids, I have been using orchid spray on my hoyas! And yes they look great!!
Love your videos much fun to watch.
Sydney, Australia . I am using 1/3 succulent/catus, 1/3 orchid, 1/3 perlite (summer rayn recipe). I am just starting so will see how that goes. I learn a lot with your videos so heaps of thanks. Will be repotting all my Hoya Australis (5) in terracotta pots already bought with the Australis 1 month ago. I water all my plants with tap water . Oh well if they can’t survive, that’s Darwin’s Law. I grow up in Vietnam. Hehehe. I can’t collect rain water. Distilled water would be an luxury expense that I can’t afford.
If your tap water is good, it's not necessary :) My tap water is very hard - around 400ppm. White stains on glass, lot of calcium deposits. That mix sounds good, but I prefer to stay away from cacti mixes. All that I tried here are not great. But, different countries have different mixes, so your cacti mix can work out great for you!
@@BasiePlants fortunately tap water is good here. Well, I have been drinking it since I arrived here. Hehehehe my succulent / cactus mix seem airy. I don’t know if it can retain water. Will have to see about that. I am repotting the rest of the Hoya as soon as I get some mix. They are not in coconut husk. None of the plants I bought are . I think they are from local growers. Before I only used the garden soil at the back of the unit which has very good soil (I am drawing my knowledge from Vietnam). Nowaday I mix a bit more bark and perlite . The garden soil has heaps of roots and branches and leaves which is good. The Australian Facebook group all believe Hoya need to be dried out completely. It rains a lot most of the time in the tropic. I was in Indonesia refugee camp. It rains almost non stop there. There are moss and mush on tree branches nooks and crane to keep the moisture. Yeh that makes sense if the root are died for long the will die. I think most indoor planters are city dwellers. They have never had a garden or even have some experience in farming. There are so much misinformation that go around. I notice people buying rare plants but don’t know how to care or bough dying plants on clearance and expect the group to save it hahaha.
I love your humour and really enjoy your videos. I bought a 1.13L bag of perlite! Lol
haha :D Oh, 1 liter is not nearly enough! 😂 I spend it like crazy. I bet I am secretly eating it at night 😂
And this guy really seems to know his hoyas!❤️😎 Very good, informative video. Thank you! ( when people are saying that they water their hoyas once a month, I’m like: WHAT!?!!)
I know! I am also in shock when I hear this. I think these people would be very surprised if they visited Thailand 😂
🤣 ”I like perlite too much" "mud castles" So many Miro gems in this video. But also SO informative. Thank you for helping me understand the difference between aeration and well draining. Hoyalicious. 😂
Did I tell you I wrote some lyrics to parody "Sandcastles" by Beyonce? That is how mudcastles were created. I am glad you found it informative. Even though it was a hoya video :D Hoyabulos day to you my friend!
For epiphytic hoyas, I use a mix of 1/3 regular soil mix, 1/3 perlite and 1/3 orchid bark, and I will throw a bit of charcoal in it, because drainage. I water about once every 7 to 10 days depending on the hoya. For the terrestrial types, I use 1/2 regular soil and 1/2 perlite.There are species for which I use crushed egg shells too, since they like a more limestony environment (according to Summer Rayne Oakes if you've ever watchd her videos). I found out in the past year that I really enjoy customizing my soil mixes, and boy do I add perlite everywhere too XD
Yes, I watched most of her videos :) I use fertilizer with calcium in it as calcium is important for new growth of many plants, not just nitrogen. There is a video out there by Rick L. Orchids about the importance of calcium for new growth. I didn't have much luck with my imperialis (terestrial hoya as you know) in organic media. It was in pretty much the same setup as you said for your terestrial hoyas, with eggshells and it didn't like it at all. So I took cuttings, moved it to semi hydro and now it's taking off. Go figure! It was properly still a mix/ watering issue as not everything works for every environment. But it's an interesting and unexpected thing I think!
Thank you thank you thank you! You just got yourself a new subscriber. It’s SO HARD to find plant people (influencers? experts?) online that don’t say “oh just throw every single plant into some miracle grow bagged soil”. My plant issues have always been soil related, but I didn’t know that until I started doing extensive research. I thought I just had a black thumb. I was constantly losing plants to root rot.
Thank you for subscribing! 💚 Yes, I think most of the issues we face are due to improper potting mix. I find this works really well for hoyas, just as long as you don't forget to water.
I find you very watchable, funny, and informative. Thank you for the content and the time that you take making it.
Hey I liked your video. It was very educating. I love growing Hojas. I have a green thumb and the overgrown dream. My passion for growing plants started when I was a toddler. My mother used to grow tropical plants in the living room at our house in new england and I used to sit in th he mitsd of them and pretend i was in a jungle. I started cloning my mother's hoja in my late teens. Hoja is my favorite plant to grow. I learned a lot about them in your video. I currently am growing a hoja that my mom grew for more than 20 years. I cloned it today. I am hoping to get many full size hojas growing soon. I was wondering if you have any tips or methods to trigger flowering indoors. My mother has hojas at her house and they flower every year indoors but mine have never flowered. I was also curious if you have any knowledge of growing citrus plants from seed?
You are informative and hilarious!! From the Bronx here, Zone 5er and appreciate you!!!
Une des meilleures vidéos sur le sujet selon moi! Merci 🙏🏼
I just got my first Hoyas so no clue what works here in the desert. I bought them from a local shop. I think the mix is ok. Lots of bark. It's very pretty.
So I Live in Southeast Texas USA and it is 100* and 80-90% humidity in summer and cold and no humidity in winter! I have been using equal parts of Orchid bark mix, succulent mix and perlite. So far it works and I just water much less in Winter.
Thanks for this info. No word about vermiculate? A must-add for some people!
Hello 👋 ran into you video just started my hoya collection been growing orchids for a few years now my 1st hoya was the bella and she grows in orchiata and kiwi mix with just a few strands of spagnum moss my environment is meduim to warm so bella and my other hoyas are thriving I water once a week and feed every 2ks....happy growing💞💞
Loved the video and I’m am now subscribed to Betsy’s channel. ❤
Trying to rescue a Lowe’s Hoya carnosa right now. This is the video all plant TH-camrs need to make, but don’t. THANK YOU!!! I tried waiting two weeks like everyone says to do and it didn’t dry out so the roots died even more. I lost a lot, but it was cheap and the cuttings look good, so I will have something left…
Thank you, you're so helpful and I really enjoy your personality 😁❤️
I use Rockwell to root them all the time works great
This is SO completely helpful! I have been trying pon and could not understand why my pon roots have been dying! This was great thank you!!!
What are you using now?
‘Accept differences” great advice. I have a question. Everything I’ve read about Hoyas is that they hate wet feet. But I’m seeing that some of yours have beautiful, healthy roots and they are sitting in Water. I feel like I’ve been depriving my babies of moisture. Changing my watering habits. Thank you.
I always repot .....I mean what else is there to do? Lol 😂 I like moss for props with a heat mat and a lot of light. However for bigger plants 🪴 I like orchid bark, moss, perlite, little bit of charcoal. My pots Terra-cotta or clear orchid pots. But I use a serious aspect light and a great humidifier. Hoyas do love moisture. I need to water at least once a week or twice with some Hoyas. Great content ❤️🌱
I am glad that there are more people out there who believe in water. It seems to me a lot of the issues people have is because they deprive them of water. The same goes for orchids, really. I never tried moss with hoyas, but it does work well for other plants. I assume it works well for hoyas too, there's no reason it wouldn't :D
Thanks so much for this video! I live somewhere dry and high altitude (Wyoming, USA) and used your base mix and added in some potting soil w/perlite and extra sphagnum moss. Can’t wait to see how my Hoyas do!
You are welcome! Man, I wish I had new hoyas to repot. I can't wait for spring to order and root more cuttings. Hands are shaking over here. #addict I hope they do well in the new mix!
With some hoyas like lacunosa (the finer root ones) people let it dry out too much, the roots die and then if you water it, the dead roots start to rot and people mistake it for overwatering. I think this is the case for the undulata.
Yes. It happens with caudata, flagellata, meredithii - basically any finer root hoya. Obscura is far more resilient, for example. Bella? Water monster. 😂
@@BasiePlants What do you mean exactly with hoya bella as a water monster?
@@elrevah she needs a lot of water and doesn’t appreciate being underwatered.
@@BasiePlants I'm a bit confused now since I heard in another, brilliant video of you that it doesn't like too much water/moisture. This is at least what I understood and could then relate to my latest (hanging) hoya bella which I didn't water a lot these last months under grow light and which nevertheless seemed to be very, very well, at the contrary to all my former hoyas that died one after the other. But it's all a question of air humidity and more of less airy soil, right?
Excellent video. I can't imagine the effort that went into making it. Well done.
Oh - btw - I've found that a coarse grind coffee, with some orchid bark mixed in, (make sure the orchid bark is ground finer than the coffee) taken once each morning makes you one with the plants. They appreciate a kindred soul. (Don't ever use pearlite because it doesn't break down and is terrible coming out, and coco coir tends to bind one up!)
Glad to hear it! It did take a bit haha. I spent about 8 hours on a scene that didn't make it in the video. So that's a shame! But maybe I can redo it and use it for another video :) I think I will stick to just milk in my coffee 😂 Bark and coco peat don't taste nice :(
Hahahahaha. Garden nursery’s are trying to make a mud castle. 😂 So True. Even in Australia 🇦🇺 most seam to want to drown the Hoya. Constantly chop and prop the new Hoya I buy as plant insurance. The mother usually dies as they are to far gone but the prop survived.
Yeah, definitely the best to do that, if the plant is big enough. And sometimes it's easier than removing coconut husk. I am not sure if you get them in that but we sure do!
Miro! I now have a beautiful rooted variegated heuschkeliana cutting in sphagnum moss! Could you please tell me what mix and conditions in which your heuschkeliana has had success? Yours is quite lovey and is one of my favorites of yours! Thank you for your knowledge and expertise.
Great video, thanks Miro! It seems i'm on the right way with my hoyas. I use an orchid mix with large proportion of bark, add a generous amount of perlite and charcoal. My hoyas grow at about 50% of humidity. I tried a net pot only once for H. buotii and it didn't work in my contidions, it turned to be too dry for the roots. I water my hoyas accordingly to the amount of light they get; less ligtht - less water. I let all of them dry between watering, some longer than others.
With net pots, they need a whole lot of water. It does well for me because my humidity goes from 60% to 80% (and above if I don't turn on my dehumidifier on time). Did you use a cover pot with the net pot? Of course, not everyting works for every environment and every lifestyle. I keep a 10l sprayer next to my hoyas, so I can water them all in 5 minutes :)
Oh my! Totally loved this video! I learned so much! Thank you! And you are aooooo funny! I hope you have lots more videos I can watch...keep them coming! 💚
I am always tinkering with my hoya mixes; I have not tried lecca as an addition to make the medium chunker. Will try now!
Temperate climate in Sweden and quite dry, no humidifier an almost no watering in the winter. I have my Hoyas in my southfacing windows mostly, but with IKEA Schottis (a thin jalousie) for protection from the sun. My Hoya australis 'Lisa' is in spaghnum and bark with a very thin layer of peat on top in a terracotta pot. I have several in pure pumice. Or as my Hoya compacta i kept the soil around the roots, and then planted it in a very big pot with pure pumice. Pumice is magical in comparison to leca though in my opinon. It can be used as a diy self draining pot. I much prefer it for leca in semihydro because pumice is less wet so no need for the roots to convert to the higher moisture level that some people experince. My Hoya kerri is in coir in the middle because I was afraid of damaging the roots by removing it all, but all around I have pure pumice and I keep it quite moist, it is super happy and it even grew in my north facing window over the winter.
Aslo on a more seriouse note, cococoir is very bad for the workes, as they develop lung diseases as well as working to many days a week. So I won't buy it! Especially since pumice is a much better medium, it is also environtmentally better than perlite. Because perlite is man made, it is popped in heated ovens which create hazardous fumes. Pumice is straight from the volcano to your pot, more environmentally friendly, and pumice does'nt crumble and can be resused over and over. Thank you for this video, I just bought a Hoya latifolia with outer variegation.....and not a macrophylla albomarginata I guess haha, Hoya names....drives me crazy. Sorry for the rant, Be well!!!
What a helpful video I just got my Hoya Carnosa I am not sure what the max is in the higher but it looks very happy so I won’t be changing a tire needs to
Excellent video!❤😊
Thank you so much for this! So informative!
I’m in Texas, usually pretty humid. My home is usually about 50-60% humidity level, and I use a mix of orchid bark, perlite, charcoal, worm castings, and a small percentage of soil. So far it’s working for me, but have only been collecting Hoya for a year. I’m sure my mix will continue to evolve!
Your content is so helpful.
Thanks again!
Oh yes. Your mix will evolve for sure! I mean, it's a great mix. But over time, we start to experiment more and test more. At least I do 😂 always searching for something that works better :D Thank you so much for watching 💚
OMG WHY IS THE DRAWER OPEN I CAN’T 😂
1. Roots don’t actually turn to dust. They fall apart when they are dry too. (When it's overwatered, they fall apart and are mushy, when they are dry, they also fall apart, but like... dry plant matter 😂)
2. White stuff on the bark is from preventative spider mite treatment :) You can see some on the leaves as well :)
Great video, as always :D
Thank you :)
Thoroughly enjoyed this video! Excellent and accurate information, thanks so much.
I am happy to hear that! 💚
I freaking love your sweatshirt (white/red with humans on it)!
Hi, Miro!
I appreciate your rational correlation: growing mix, water, temperature. It's fit to my location, here in Romania.
I was looking for new trellisis, and you insipred me. Thanks!
Yes! And of course, adjust according to your conditions and lifestyle :) Oh, not my original idea for the trellises but I hope you can make some for yourself!
I really love your humor 😆!
I really love your comment! 💚
Thank you! Super informative.
I am happy you thought so :)
Super informative video! So that tecnique that you tryed! Of putting spagnum in the bottom an midle and mixed with bark it worked?? Is it that mix you showed in another video??😘?
Yes, that is the technique! It works really well :) All hoyas that are in organic media are mostly in that mix now, except for those that I was too lazy to repot.
@@BasiePlants uuuu brilliant! Just tryed it out with 3 of my hoyas! If everything goes well!! Ill tag you on insta with updates 😋!! Thank you so much for this new tecnike 😘😘😘 looks very promissing,i used my most precious and favourite bark xD ,its actually meant to be used as a snake media 🐍😅🤗💚🌱
@@MrDanylui poor snakes with no bark 😂 Do tag me! I would love to see if it works out for you 💚
Wow i need to watch this like 100 times. So much info. Hey any suggestions on monstera? We are in a sub tropical central Texas. And summer are hot, and some humidity, about 7 to 8 months warn to hot to over 100 by August. Right now, indoors for winter, my babys are dropping leaves, and dying.
Oh, 100 times might be too much of me! :D Did you check for pests? What kind of die back is it? Is it getting enough light and is it getting enough water? Or perpahs too much water? I water my monsteras once a week. They are in plastic pots with coco peat, perlite, bark, LECA. They are under an LED light (36W) and near a north-west facing window. My humidity is 60% and temeprature around 23 degrees of Celsius. Maybe that helps :)
Perfect timing Miro!
I've used an orchid mix which is mainly bark and expanded clay pellets... It has worked well for me in the past but just today I found my Chouke drying from the bottom up and the roots have pretty much completely died back... I had recently moved that hoya (for better light) and I forgot to water it... for a month! 😭
Rescue mission under way, still viable stems are now in sphagnum moss in a propagation box. Wish me luck! 🤞
Ouch! A months is a bit too long! But, luckly for you, rooting 'Chouke' is a piece of cake. I think I have one too! Got it by accident. It was supposed to be 'Mathilde' but it is definitely not. We will see when it blooms!
I have used Orchid Bark with Perlite and Coconut chips but am finding it is too chunky for my smaller plants which need to be watered frequently. I think I need to add more Coco Choir to these pots. Thank you for the good information.
There is also finer bark at Ecuagenera. I think it might work well for smaller hoyas :) Or coco peat.
I have coconut husks chips, perlite, vermiculite, and orchids potting mixed. Watering twice a week, room humidity 75.
Ok, I clicked on to find out what mix you use and I still have no idea after watching 3 times. Bark, moss, perlite, coco core, ???? What ratio?
Please give me the recipe on the trellis.
And how do you remove bark from coffee 😂😂
You are a very wise young man that God forbid has grown up. You are perfect as you are.. Love your humor and you are very very wise and good to give your knowledge.
I grow mine in humidity of 47° and the mix is orchid bark, perlite, Leca and a bit of charcoal. It works fine and I water 1x a week but some have 2x a week Hoya bella ex
Haha :D Trellis is from the rabbit fence. Torill came up with this, then Doug Chamberlain showed in his videos how to make them, so I did it too! Super cheap and very functional! You don't remove bark from coffee :( You have to make a new cup of coffee! Especially when perlite and peat get in the coffee too. Not very tasty! I am glad your hoyas are loving your mix and the conditions. And yes, bella is always thirsty. I can't say I am loving that, sometimes I want to put a bucket of water under hear and figure out how to DIY self-irrigation 😂
@@BasiePlants your so funny.. Always makes me laugh tell my cheeks heart from lactic intolerance 😂😂
Thank you for all your advice about coffee which I don't drink and a bit of perlite makes the human fertilizer airy and light.. I but about 100kg a year.😂😂😂
Im sorry Miro.. I can't help myself. Love you and have a nice new week 😉
Great info. I have made the mistake of thinking well-draining = well-aerated.
Same. :( It happens. We fixed that mistake :)
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼ℹ️ my hoya mix is Pure bark + orchid potting mix + perlite
That sounds great!
Where do you get your plastic pots? Couldn’t hear what you said they were called. ❤️ loved this video btw. Lots of info and I NEEDED it.
I have net pots that I get in hydroponics store. I also use cover pots with those, but those are only from a local store, and aren't distributed outside Serbia sadly.
None of my Hoyas bloom. Hopefully things will improve after try some of the new things I learned from you today. I live in Albuquerque and most of the time is very dry.
I love this guy informative and silly 🙃
Thank you 💚
Great information. Thanks for sharing👍💞
Hi, love the video I just purchase my 1st Hoya a Hoya Mathilde. You mention in the video that Hoya likes a lot of Air. Would it be ok to use orchid bark as a medium?
My hoyas are in coco coir ( cause I’m allergic to all soil citizens), pumice and perlite. They’re growing in terracotta pots. I have different conditions during through the year, so it depends on weather how I water them, if it’s rainny for couple weeks And it’s autumn or winter I stop on watering for longer period (14-16 days).. it depends on weight of pot, if I notice that it is light, I’ll give it water naturally. In Spring and Summer my schedule of watering changing to 7 days, but when they actively growing I might change it to 5 if it’s hot and dry. So as you were saying: we must keep watching our hoyas and their needs❤️
Yes. There is no universal thing. It depends on your lifestyle, hoya you have, your condtions and even the pot. There are many factors that I didn't mention or didn't discuss deeper but I think than it would have been an hour long video and TH-cam would ban me from the platform. 😂
I found that once I increased the aeration in my Hoya soil(s), I saw an immediate response in growth. Giving them brighter light levels and water was also a factor.
I plan to continue experimenting with different combinations of soil amendments. 🖤
That's such a good discovery though! I think about my plants all the time, so I was very happy when I finally made the connection. And also, I love to experiment as well.
Excellent! Summarized very well!!
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Any links I could please get where you grt your bark and the other mixture?
I have 70+% humidity as well, but I stopped using net pots for hoyas because they end up drying out too quickly :/ Maybe cause it’s too hot here in australia. Also it was hard to repot them out of the net pots cause the roots are so easily damaged when removing them from the net pot. Ended up changing them to terracotta or plastic pots. I use an epiphytic mix as well though! Definitely still trying to figure out a good mix, cause while all my hoyas are Alive and Have Roots (yay), some of them are not growing much.
Thank you for all the good info in this video! I will try all of your advice except for the net pots because I am still mad at them lol
They work great for me in a cover pot. I don't mind watering twice a week and my temperature is around 23 degrees of Celsius. Did you try to soak them before repotting? Maybe that would help with the roots. I did repot some of the smaller ones from small net pots to larger net pots and I didn't have any issues. Sure, you lose tiny bit of root, but they didn't mind that one single bit. I dislike terracotta because it adds to my humidity and it didn't dry out evenly for me. Yeah, it's all really a process. I am constantly experimenting too. Haha forgive the net pots! :D Maybe orchid pots with holes? A lot of people do that in the orchid community :)
@@BasiePlants Yeah orchid pots with holes work great for my bigger hoyas! I only have big orchid pots, but maybe I’ll make some little ones with a soldering iron like you suggested 🙂
Thanks for telling me about soaking before repotting, I wasn’t doing that! OK I might try net pots again on some cuttings, the root growth was really really good.
It’s been 25-30°C here and anything in small terracotta or net pots dries out overnight, which is just too often to be watering plants!
@@metasymphony soldering iron is the best 💚 I made net pots like that too 😂 miro the melter
I live in Florida and use bark perlite and a bit of potting mix. Huge humidity and heat since my plants are all on my screened porch.
Makes sense, you wouldn't want anything that retains too much moisture.
Central Florida, I am trying to transition to outside where winters are super dry and summer supper wet😖
I use coco coir chunk as my base with bark, #3 perilite and charcoal.
I live in the USA in Ohio. I have a lot of my Hoya outside during the summer-we get high humidity and a lot of sunshine. Currently however, it’s cold af. 20° and will be snowy-grey-gloomy weather until about mid April. As of right now all of the hoya are inside. I have a lot of my Hoya in semi-hydro and a have (basically) the rest of them in my own mix. My mix consists of perlite, horticultural charcoal, orchid mix (bark and perlite), peat moss and worm castings. I water them with well water with superthrive every watering. Some are in my grow tent and get 12 hours of grow light time-while the rest are on my “Hoya shelf” which is open faced and has grow lights on 24/7. The room stays at about 45-55% humidity and the tent is 70-80%
Some Hoya love semi-hydro and some hate it. Some love the soil mix-some prefer to be in semi-hydro. I’ve been really curious about PON. Maybe if semi hydro just takes a crap on me I’ll give pon a go 😂 or use my more common hoya to experiment on it with in case they don’t vibe with it. Hoya are weird. As you mentioned, they’re like humans. Some like a lot of light - but if you put polyneura under a grow light she’ll fight you. Some are thirsty like Bella-some will disintegrate if you water them too much. It’s all about finding balance and just listening to what they tell you. Hoya WILL for sure tell you when they’re happy or when they’re pissed.
Great video by the way! Very informative and entertaining :)
Thank you! :)
Bella will definitely not appreciate drying out xD So far, it seems all of them liked semi hydro in my home. Which ones didn't like it for you? I was very surprised to find out terestrial hoyas like imperialis love semi hydro. It is growing much better for me now than it did in organic media. I think semi hydro is good becase it takes out that human error out of growing plants and keeps them evenly moist, so you can't mess up the watering. There are several adjustments you can make to SH depending on the plant and what it likes. I am slowly going through those paces so maybe one day I will have a comprehensive video about that as well! :D
Surprisingly, my polyneura did NOT like semi-hydro! It developed a nutrient deficiency and needed cal-mag. I transferred it to my custom mix and it’s put out 2 nodes in a month. So much quicker growth than I was getting. Also it’s loving the grow tents humidity. I saw a really full, lush poly recently and it made me incredibly envious-especially when he told me it was 6 months of growth from a 2 node cutting! So, I threw mine into humidity and praying for a monster 😂
@@plantymomma3980 they will always need very good nutes in SH. I use rainmix and it has calcium and magnesium. But that is important for other plants too. Good stuff to add once in a while :)