KILLER COPPER?! 223 Remington Hornady Superformance CX 50 & 55gr Ammo Test

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    In this video we’re going to do a ballistics gel test and review of the following hunting ammunition fired from the following test rifle:
    - 223 Remington Hornady Superformance 50 and 55 grain CX
    - CZ 527 Carbine chambered in 223 Remington with an 18.5 inch barrel (safe to fire 5.56x45 per CZ)
    All shots are fired from a distance of 100 yards to encompass the majority of common real world hunting scenarios.
    I will be shooting into 10% ballistics gel from www.clearballistics.com that has been calibrated to meet the FBI ballistics testing protocol.
    While ballistics gel isn’t an exact proxy for big game, small game, predators or defensive situations, it does provide a repeatable medium through which to test various bullets and ammunitions against each other.
    With each type of ammo tested I collect data on bullet penetration depth, bullet weight retention, bullet expansion and muzzle velocity.
    For reference, bullet expansion is measured at the widest expanded point using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Caliper.
    Bullet weight is measured using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Scale after having removed as much ballistics gel as possible from the expanded bullets.
    Bullet velocity is measured using a ProChronoPal chronograph set approximately 7’ from the shooting bench.
    I am fully aware that a chronograph measuring bullet velocity from 7’ away from the muzzle is going to register a slower velocity than if velocity were measured directly at the muzzle, but that difference is going to be so small as to be all but irrelevant in regards to comparison of actual measured velocity versus factory stated velocity.
    My goal with these ballistics gel tests is to provide hunters like you and I with the most objective information possible to help us make the best choice for our particular hunting situation.
    The results of these tests are my own and I cannot guarantee the same or similar performance on your part. The views and opinions expressed in this video are solely my own.
    All videos are filmed in a safe and controlled environment on a private range with all applicable safety precautions by a trained professional.
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  • @anthonydavinci7985
    @anthonydavinci7985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Excellent REAL field data .Well done . I recommend your site to others often. Thanks !

    • @masonleather
      @masonleather  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to be of service!

  • @JohnHabbinga
    @JohnHabbinga 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I went through my shot log and I found that I tested velocity of the Hornady Superformance 5.56 NATO with a 55gr GMX bullet, the predecessor to the CX bullet. Using a 20” barrel with a 1-12 twist, I got an average velocity of 3223 fps.

  • @fjoco1
    @fjoco1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    You can 💩💩on the street in CA but you better not dare shoot a lead bullet. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @DocOmaley98
      @DocOmaley98 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ok there’s a good reason for the lead free.

    • @allthingsconsidered3211
      @allthingsconsidered3211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Only hunting

    • @allthingsconsidered3211
      @allthingsconsidered3211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DocOmaley98lead comes from the ground. Your recycling.

    • @Drumdude44
      @Drumdude44 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      California is such a shithole state (politically) 😂

    • @user-cl7jw7td5q
      @user-cl7jw7td5q 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Blahshahahah! That is funny and so true!

  • @johncadloni4538
    @johncadloni4538 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you for making these videos. It takes alot of time to make and set up gel blocks and everything else involved. Thank you.
    My daughter likes to shoot but is very recoil sensitive. These vids are a big help in choosing the right ammo for the job. I hope you have some 62gr gold dot and trophy bonded to try. I have some of that and would like to see the results. Thanks again. Loved the 30-30 stuff also. Maybe 35 rem corlok and hornady gummy tips?

    • @masonleather
      @masonleather  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to be of service!

  • @leonardcavaretta905
    @leonardcavaretta905 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love these double header videos. Please make more

  • @tubbyshvfd9110
    @tubbyshvfd9110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is a nice looking rifle, looks to be smooth as glass.

  • @gregorysivits3605
    @gregorysivits3605 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @terryrichards8645
    @terryrichards8645 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That’s good stuff! 😊I like the 55 gr. Best ! Thanks for sharing this video! 😊

    • @masonleather
      @masonleather  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to be of service!

  • @michaelhollier
    @michaelhollier 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video thanks sir

    • @masonleather
      @masonleather  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to be of service!

  • @SteveChishamSr
    @SteveChishamSr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a helpful video

  • @airair862
    @airair862 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    308win hornadi - 150gr super - FORMANCE Cartridges
    test❤👏.

  • @dustinjohnson7728
    @dustinjohnson7728 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    55gr is the minimum weight allowed in some states for deer hunting. Also, since copper is less dense than lead, copper projectiles tend to be longer than cup and core bullets of the same weight.

    • @BuggaBoy69
      @BuggaBoy69 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bullet weight and velocity are nice to have but shot placement and shooting within effective range are the key factors to ethical hunting.
      I know an old timer that would pop (does, fawns, spikes) with .22 shorts at night because it was hard to hear the shot. He always aimed for the neck and would recover the deer every time.
      It wasn’t until he bought a .270 Winchester rifle, started hunting legally, and started taking lung shots, shoulder shots, and heart shots that he ran into trouble tracking his deer.
      Know your limits, the limits of your rifle/scope, and the limits of your cartridge/ammunition.
      Don’t go for a shoulder shot with a 50gr .223. Go for the neck.

  • @lawerncemiller6557
    @lawerncemiller6557 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Never have had any luck with good accuracy using the superformace ammo in any caliber I've shot it in

  • @rodgermunson3178
    @rodgermunson3178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hope you do the light grain from them

  • @mot0rhe4d40
    @mot0rhe4d40 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I suspect the four petal design, lends itself to the good penetration characteristics. Does more of a broadhead effect versus the classic instant mushroom that acts like a parachute.
    Think either these or the Barnes would serve a hunter well in this caliber

  • @mr.mr.3301
    @mr.mr.3301 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting. Really impressive but wound cavity is so weak but would do the job. I enjoy seeing the mini action demos. 350 legend, 300 Bo, 7.62x39 6.5 Grendel.

  • @PassivePortfolios
    @PassivePortfolios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Our group has been hunting deer together for over 30 years. Private and public lands. None of us have ever seen anyone using the .223 for deer.

    • @BustedLimbOutdoors
      @BustedLimbOutdoors 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I've seen it used. One of my good buddies swears by it and I've seen him drop some trophy bucks with 223.

    • @TheCodyO
      @TheCodyO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Its not a super popular choice but it does get the job done with proper shot placement and bullet performance

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not terrible but if I go with these I am going 55. I am not overly impressed with small & short wound channel. Good shot placement at closer range. Thank you.

  • @Remi7.62
    @Remi7.62 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do more 30-06 ammo tests please

  • @mr.mr.3301
    @mr.mr.3301 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Found out for best accuracy you should have a clean barrel for copper. Lehigh even has an insert in their ammo.

    • @phild9813
      @phild9813 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In my experience, the issue is with a dirty barrel from traditional ammo. I haven’t run into issues shooting just the same copper ammo, and starting with a clean barrel. I don’t find this to be an issue, except with an AR15 that I’m switching back and forth between cheaper fmj/bthp at the range and Barnes TSX. Makes me not want to shoot copper in the AR15, as I also don’t believe scrubbing on the barrel with copper solvents all the time is good on the barrel.

  • @rynerenzaglia8006
    @rynerenzaglia8006 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sweet

  • @Brykk
    @Brykk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What was the twist rate on the barrel? Sorry if i missed it, but i never heard it mentioned.

  • @randymathewson7939
    @randymathewson7939 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your old Browning's 1 x 12" is the same as M16A1 so 55 gr or lighter should be fine, as long as your individual barrel likes it. As u said, the copper solids are a bit finicky

  • @Alden99669
    @Alden99669 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do the CX bullets compare with Barnes bullets?

  • @williamray3101
    @williamray3101 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hornady quality ammo.😊😊

  • @frankspataro9714
    @frankspataro9714 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wish they made a 32 grain 204 cx bullet

    • @phild9813
      @phild9813 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. Would be a sweet 204 load.

  • @ethanamldon5657
    @ethanamldon5657 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do they make this loading in 22/250 ?

  • @briankelly2886
    @briankelly2886 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is different with the CX compared to the GMX ?

  • @chrisgabbert658
    @chrisgabbert658 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s the twist rate on the barrel?

  • @CircleBrewery
    @CircleBrewery 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would just use the 55 grain

  • @johnparker9139
    @johnparker9139 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Have you ever test Palmetto State Armory ammo? The ACC ammo, they have some good 556

    • @rob6850
      @rob6850 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd like to see their 77 and 75 grain options tested

    • @maxcontax
      @maxcontax 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Think about your quarry instead of your rifle and bullets and you will leave your 223 at home and take a big game rifle instead. C’mon.

    • @johnparker9139
      @johnparker9139 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@maxcontax summer deer damage tags we use any means possible and it gets expensive using 3006. So 223 for deer damage tags.

  • @allthingsconsidered3211
    @allthingsconsidered3211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My bets on the 55 gr

  • @craiglafosse8086
    @craiglafosse8086 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So one thing about coppers. They don't have a massive permanent wound channels but they carry the wound channels they do make much deeper acting like a ninja bullet blender.

    • @sayimsgt4953
      @sayimsgt4953 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      do you have a reference for this statement. id like to hear more about it. thanks

    • @craiglafosse8086
      @craiglafosse8086 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sayimsgt4953 yeap personal experience shooting deer and hogs with both bonded and copper bullet types. I love both and both have their place but copper just hits different and cuts a hell of a wound channel. I shoot the barnes 110gr tac-tx in my 300blk and the barnes 129gr LRX and hornady 130gr CX in my 270win. Also other copper tests on targets. Vortex nation does some great videos testing them.

  • @carfvallrightsreservedwith6649
    @carfvallrightsreservedwith6649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Published velocities are established in standard longer barrels, usually 22-24". Expect to lose 50-75 fps for each inch lacking.

  • @ErickaC-mc7vg
    @ErickaC-mc7vg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The numbers and stats seem to deem the 50 grain load pointless, unless your rifle simply doesn't like the 55 grainers.

  • @Bojangles6
    @Bojangles6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    55gr- 10% more weight, roughly 10% more velocity, energy and penetration over the 50 gr load.

  • @Fredmullegun
    @Fredmullegun 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the 50gr has a terrible BC and is slower. probably useful if you have a 1:12" twist rifle. those rifles will have longer barrels. They probably loaded that shorter bullet with slower powder to take advantage of that longer barrel. Probably lost a ton of velocity with your short barrel.

  • @flawedchemical
    @flawedchemical 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you notice those smelling weird? I shot some of the 35gr superformance and they smelled like swimming pools lol.

    • @masonleather
      @masonleather  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No odd smell with these

  • @garrettschienschang7898
    @garrettschienschang7898 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems comparable if slightly inferior overall to the Barnes solid copper

  • @Weatherby406
    @Weatherby406 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From my experience with both copper and lead.. copper penetrates much farther and holds together. Game usually runs after shot.. lead blows up more and I get allot more dropped game on impact. Negative is you have lead in all the meat because it explodes into it.

    • @martyrenn9888
      @martyrenn9888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve seen 3 mule deer shot this year with copper bullets all three combined moved maybe six feet total before they dropped,

  • @gordyowens9570
    @gordyowens9570 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would like to see it out of a 20inch barrle.

  • @rodgermunson3178
    @rodgermunson3178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for varmitts

  • @josephgomes8543
    @josephgomes8543 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Copper bullets keep lead out of the GUT PILES and no extra lead in your CHILDREN either. Those wound channels from a tiny 22 bullet: seems fine to me. .223 for deer? WHY?

  • @user-cl7jw7td5q
    @user-cl7jw7td5q 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I kinda like your vids but not that much….. I doubt that many people are signing up…. Just saying

    • @JMane3000
      @JMane3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nobody cares. Just saying 😅😊

  • @jmcnallyua
    @jmcnallyua 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would this be good ammo for an AR-15 target shooting or would you recommend something different anyway keep up the amazing videos

    • @masonleather
      @masonleather  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This stuff would be very expensive for target work, I’d go with whatever’s cheapest for that, unless you’re talking about precision stuff, in which case you would have to try a bunch of stuff to see what your rifle shoots the best