Is there really a dedicated effort to stop Somali piracy? Different interwoven stories from the world of piracy give a new and unique perspective on this issue.
Everyone is benefitting so there is not much incentive to stop it. Why don't the shipping companies take the money they are paying to insurance companies and start an industry to recuit and employ Somalis who have become pirates due to not having many other options. The Somalis can be paid to be private security to protect their own waters.
@s111stock Then the big insurance companies wouldn't make the money they are making now . It would also make a dent into the profits of the industry military complex. Greed has taken over unfortunately.
Exactly. "Prate hunting" is like bass fishing. Catch and release policies ensures the population of prates does not diminish over time. The rules of engagement make military forces useless, which is why shipping companies should just turn to mercenaries to deal with the issue.
The majority of people have no idea just how lucrative and dangerous piracy is in the areas mentioned in this documentary. Additionally, people do not realize just how vast and open these areas are and how much "action" is going on across such a huge area. I spent many years helping to defend from piracy in those areas and it was at a minimum once a week we were engaging and being engaged by pirates. Our main goal was to immobilize/destroy their vessels as quickly as possible and often times we would deal collateral casualties to the crew of those pirate vessels, the pirates really never stood a chance, but they were determined and it was heartbreaking to watch them fight for nothing in the end. I am now retired from it all and some things still haunt me to this day. EDIT: This documentary was great and it still only shows a "taste" of how every day "business" really is. Unfortunately, people will do horrible things for money/wealth.
A teamate of mine in the army later joined as security to fight off pirates in waters near somalia and the area. He did it for 3 years I think and said it was a pretty lucrative job. Was able to get down payments to build a very nice property on a decent plot of land.
@partyrocks the UN help the country of Somalia, when Bill Clinton was president and humanitarian relief agencies were in there before that. They were attacked the supplies for the starving people were stolen, and in the end military action was taken up. So don’t talk about they’re just hungry the world tried, and in the end there’s some very cruel and sadistic, countrymen that have killed mauled and stolen from their own.
If there is no law about owning weapons in international waters, there should also be no laws prohibiting the confiscation of these weapons. If it's a lawless land, anything goes. One suggestion is to control the movement of the pirates and when it is time for them to attack a ship, sink their vessel, with or without them on board. For big problems, big solutions.
The problem is not what goes on in international waters. It's what goes on in nationally owned waters. The arms needed to confiscate Somali weapons are not allowed to be carried in some waters owned by other countries that you must inevitably sail through.
@@DavidRoddy-w4t you all speak off your couch with any clue whats going on in the real world ever story has two sides but feed on what your served after all your human
@@mohamedmohamud604 We don't tolerate thieves. And you had better hope we stay on our couches. Or would you rather we come to your home? Please, keep sending us invitations.
@@emmanuelgoldstein1918 Violence only breeds violence. Not trusting the words of the pirate from the documentary but you have to admit that whole of Africa was, is and will be exploited which by it's self creates such desperate people whom you, as a happy oblivious consumer, see as an enemy/threat. Be civilized and seek a common, peaceful solution and don't degrade to an animal state by seeking "eye for an eye". Let's take the 4 mil USD that's been paid to Kenya for little to no results and imagine what it can do if it were to be invested in infrastructure and jobs in Somalia or the operational costs for the US/EU Warships in the gulf of ADEN or the millions paid to insurance companies and mercenaries. Doesn't it strike odd for you the sudden change in attitude of the Danish captain or the service personnel on the EU ship during their deployment? Just think for a bit, I'm sure you can follow basic logic. At the end of the day, you are not alone on this world and if you can't help others at the very least, don't condemn them, please.
I guess insurance prevents an armed response from shipping companies…I’d cross train my people and arm like a platoon… sniper- light and heavy machine guns…possibly tech guy with drones?
@@Muckylittleme Totally. They need to be purged. Every ship going through that Gulf of $hithole should mount a 20 mm cannon on it's highest point, and have a few other armed & trained crew and take care of business as it arises. The problem would be done with very quickly. Purged...
bro this comment section is full of idiots. "just make sure the pirates never are seen again" yea because that worked so well throughout history this is a problem caused by the west, from over fishing and illegal bilge dumping destroying the fish population where people depend on that. its just like the wars in the middle east creating a beast of an insurgency over the last 25 years its not somalia's fault, its the west's fault. humanitarian aid would be much more effective a quelling the piracy problem, because desperate people do desperate things. they are backed into a corner, commit piracy, or you and your family starve. they arent evil, they dont harm the hostages 99/100 times.
bro this comment section is full of idiots. "just make sure the pirates never are seen again" yea because that worked so well throughout history this is a problem caused by the west, from over fishing and illegal bilge dumping destroying the fish population where people depend on that. its just like the wars in the middle east creating a beast of an insurgency over the last 25 years its not somalia's fault, its the west's fault. humanitarian aid would be much more effective a quelling the piracy problem, because desperate people do desperate things. they are backed into a corner, commit piracy, or you and your family starve. they arent evil, they dont harm the hostages 99/100 times.
You have irrefutable proof they that they did in fact intend to commit piracy? Using your logic, someone could watch you drive a car and have you arrested for possibly committing vehicular manslaughter.
Unbelievable that the Norwegian navy provided the pirates with food and drinks. As captain of a merchant ship, I would certainly want to have weapons on board. There are probably a few among the crew who can handle weapons.
I would have NO Mercy for pirates. I don't care what their reason is. The world of trade is much more important than their petty grievances. If your economy is gone. .then go to another country and make an honest living. No more excuses.
@@ballsyrocker what an attitude towards the poor people who used to be fishermen!. But their trade was stolen from them by the international community. It is pathetic to read. Go to another country and make an honest living?? Are you for real? Do you even know where this going on? The "other" countries are in the same situation, because countries like yours are just rolling over them to have their oil and gas. The international community with USA as the culprit number 1 is the reason why this whole region is in the state of disharmony..... You should be ashamed with this kind of attitude.....
@57:00 pirate leader threatens to begin slitting the throats of the Merchant Seamen. Narrator also says the pirates are now wealthy. Hard to convince me that the depleted fisheries of peaceful fishermen is what motivates these men. ~Blessings~
He didn’t say anything about cutting anyone’s throats . He simply said the world will listen when they start doing what the old pirates 🏴☠️ use to do if they keep taking our guns , kidding our men ect . Never believe what anyone writes on cc . Ask a native
@@JR-mh8vn That money is just from one heist as well. They do multiple, so you can multiply that number. It's just really fishy if you actually think about it.
I had a friend ex British Army who did this, he said it was a horrible job. He had low paid, low quality, low courage, low discipline underlings aboard the vessel who we're more a liability than a benefit. The firms that supply this lousy standard of protection make billions.
I know a soldier who works in the counter task force. On his last deployment they had a boat shooting at them so the opened fire and sunk the dingy and killed a few of the pirates and wounded one guy. After the firefight they had to save the surviving pirates from drowning. No countries in the vacinity wanted to take the pirates into jail and charge them with piracy (costs noone wants) so they all ended up being set free at sea in swimming distance from the shore exept the one wounded guy who needed medical attention. Because of rules of engagement the wounded pirate ended up being transported all the way to scandinavia (where the soldiers came from) to get treated AND charged with crimes of piracy. -And yes, being wounded he was the only one getting charged for crimes while the others was set free because of bureaucracy... Whats is the funny but absurd outcome? -The danish state is required to help the pirate heal and literally get back on his feet... So the pirate is getting a wooden leg paid for by my taxes... I repeat; WE ARE PAYING FOR A WOODEN LEG FOR A PIRATE!! :D
@@Rob-ke2hu well... I'd prefer a global economy that didn't make ppl wanna steal and rob others to make a living... killing eachother like madmen seems like a midevil solution...😉
maybe if the international companies surfing through somali waters could pay a stipend for use of and damage to their food systems? That would stop the pirates and fewer people have the die. The amount the companies would have to pay wouldnt probably really impact their profits significantly 🤷
Prior to World War Two. Merchant vessels in pirate water would be armed. Rifles, pistols, machine guns and even small cannons usually under 76 mm (3 inch) in size.
Those .50 cals punch through destroyers, so they would be enough for defense. You also could drop some grenades into their boats, problem solved. It should be relatively easy to defend a ship.
That pirate is a true PoS. When they attack a warship, the navy just gives them water and tells them to be on their way and he’s so mad about being “mistreated,” he’s going to start killing hostages…
In the days of High Piracy and Buccaneering in the1700s and 1800s. The ships involved were of similar displacement, speed and armor. Here, you have pirates in tiny wooded or plastic boats. How they are able to high jack a steel ship 100s of times larger than them is baffling. In most navies of the world. Strange ships are not allowed near the vessel. or Else. A 50 cal. gun should be standard on ALL ships sailing in these waters.
exactly, even the sight of a 50 cal would keep them away, let alone the register. This whole problem is due to the new 'sensitivity' required by western nations. The criminals are simply misunderstood. They are the true victims.
Not true, pirates mostly used small vessels even in the golden age of piracy. Canoes and small sloops, basically a big rowboat with sails, were the most common pirate ships. Their general thought was 10 men with muskets do as much damage as a medium size cannon. Just like now they used night and currents to bring themselves close to vessels then quickly board and subdue the crew, who just like back in the day, are not soldiers and are not looking to fight for someone else's goods.
Once the pyrates board the ships the size difference is gone. It's man against man through the sights of a rifle. The crews of these ships aren't trained or equipped for such risks.
56:54 "we feel compelled to begin cutting the throats of our hostages" chilling final words from the "head" pirate. If they start doing that, then that's my sympathy gone, and I say take whatever action is needed to stop them for good. The ransoms that have been paid already to these pirates should allow all of the pirates and their friends and families and relatives to live well ... no need to escalate things and continue to go around attacking vessels and hurting people. It's just greed of the part of the pirates. Blaming the USA and Europe for depleting their fishing is ridiculous lies.
@AcademicMonkey China is the country that is raping and overfishing the oceans around the world. And you make a lot of assumptions about me: "high, pampered, well-fed", showing how little you know.
Yeah yeah, its never been USA or Europe's fault, even sun rotating around USA not the earth. Without USA, our life would be very miserable because USA invented oxygen.
To add: The entire reason why the Pirates DON'T kill all of the passengers or destroy the boats is because of the ransoms. If they blow up the crafts, THERE IS NO RANSOM. So they wouldn't do that. That dude's logic is so hilarious. He seems to simp for the pirates throughout this video. Not only that, these pirates get MILLIONS of dollars from a ransom, yet they keep doing them. Something's fishy.
The problem is at any time they have a couple of hundred hostages, so if their boats were sunk, guns taken the hostages might be killed or mistreated. The only solution is to pay the ransoms for all hostages at once, get them out and then destroy the pirates and their stuff in future. After 2 or 3 boats go out with 100% fatalities you can bet that piracy will drop off
if you look at how somalia with its land resources is a playground for usa, china, russia and many more, nuclear waste of industry nations being dumped in their oceans, overfishing by foreign ships - it makes you think about who the real pirates are in this story and who are the victims. imagine youre so poor, starving and desperate to drive a small unprotected boat into hails of bullets. It is a human tragedy.
A wrong cannot be justified by another wrong that's for sure. [33 : 5] The chief pirate's father died as a result of bullying by the "foreign fishermen" as they were fishing. The man is sad and hurt as he gives the story. What ever is going on those coastlines is far more than just piracy and it better be addressed before things escalate [56:57]
I'd say it's a response of greed, not a response of desperation...! Stuff that you obtain through hard work actually means something...! Stolen stuff is not worth anything to me...!!! Thanks
A prostitute will say there is no jobs, blah blah blah, gangsters, pirates, scammers and the like, will always come up with some weak excuse. For sure crime is not the best way to go. Once your community or country gets known for criminal activities, then kiss goodbye to real investors
@@tobiasmangoma9566 yea but the criminal world has loads of investors. That's why a life of crime is so attractive and there are those who succeed. But without a doubt, few escape death or prison if they make it a career.
@@Zei33 the average somali makes 450 dollars a year those pirates although they splitted it up with 60 pirates still are making a life time worths of money they going to be rich asf if they wanted to survive they would settle with less and get out quicker those boys wanted a big score
It seems as though the concept of deterrent is somewhat misunderstood in certain quarters, in fact the current method provides encouragement by making sure that even if the pirates fail to takeover a vessel, they get a nice packed lunch for the trip home. I can't see many of the pirates saying, 'Never again.......' If the reaction fits the crime, in this case the message is clear, piracy isn't a big deal, it's a misdemeanour, nothing more. They said that in spite of NATO's presence + general increased security, piracy was still on the increase........... Why that might be?....?...... I can't begin to imagine?....?...... Strange things happen at sea.
Seems that way doesn’t it? then again, the way things seem and the way things are rarely are the same thing. Deterrent by strong punishment is not as effective as you might think, in fact it may make your adversaries more dangerous if the threat is death. The people who become pirates most likely don’t do so for fun but rather necessity.. if you had the choice between certainly dying of poverty/hunger/thirst or dying in an attempt to rob someone else… but then those people, with you on your knees ready to die in your failure, show mercy and compassion and HELP YOU? Or on the other side, would you execute them? Is that a war crime? Think a little harder about being a human, and the true complexity of this situation. Please.
@@kamikazemelon787the Russians certainly don’t spare anyone. Anyway, the reality is, people that grow up in developing and underdeveloped countries have completely different values and thought processes. As a whole, they’re harder and more cutthroat than us. Mercy _is_ just seen as being given another opportunity to try again. It’s wishful and naive thinking that fails to understand the mindset, when you say that compassion will somehow change their mind.
@@kamikazemelon787 The idea they had no choice other than becoming pirates is ridiculous. They became pirates, + remain so, hoping to bag multi-million dollar ransoms, depleted fish stocks has nothing to do with it. Any compassion I had was for the Ukrainian hostages, held for months in conditions totally unnecessarily cramped + confined. They were the only true victims I saw in that film.
There are two ways to deal with pirates. The western version is coddle these pirates with care and comfort. Even feeding these pirates with culturally sensitive food items. The wealthy owners of these shipping companies couldn't care any less about the captured crews. Or, the Russian way. Remove the pirate crew from the skiff, comfort and care is of no concern. Remove all weapons or anything that may be used as a weapon. Put the pirates back into their skiff, along with some explosive devices. Let the pirates float some distance away. Then a sound like a Kaboom is off in the distance. No pirate problem.
The "lead pirate" has come up with a "very convincing" tale of why pirating is okay. It is never right to do wrong because wrong has been done to you! They got millions of dollars as a ransom and could have shared the wealth and lived the rest of their lives on that. Instead their greed keeps them after more money and they are now trying to instill fear by saying, "we will slit their throats" His thinking about attacking the ships he is instead of even fishing boats is about as dumb as say, "one of my daughters gets raped and killed." Soooo... I go and have some boy or man, UNRELATED to the attack, raped and killed!
You know that’s a really novel idea. I think you just institute a new policy where you create pirate rape porn. You let them get on the ship and then you capture them. Then you Mandingo fight them till they can’t walk and then you have them rape each other or you cut their balls off.
Agreed, BUT there is truth in the “desperate men do desperate things” root cause too. There are many problems in the world where the motivation is lack of work, lack of resources, your family is starving, or you see no future prospects. Whether it’s a Somali pirate, a Palestinian militant, a Syrian suicide bomber, gang members in LA or NYC, or any number of others (typically younger men) who see disadvantage and do not see much to live for, there will be trouble. Without steps to solve such social issues, the problems persist.
By your logic the Norwegian navy should not be hunting these fishermen "pirates" because It is never right to do wrong because wrong has been done to you!
"it's a matter of life or death for us" well that tends to happen when you commit armed attacks on international shipping. The fact that the countries that have piracy being launched from their shores aren't the ones policing it are why it's a problem. If you do nothing about pirates actively launching attacks from your shores then you should be prepared to have frequent naval bombardments peppering your shores as well. But of course that would be seen as not "politically correct." The world has become so laughably backwards that people care more about protecting criminals and those harboring them than the innocent people falling victim to said criminals. Just turn any shoreline with piracy into craters and I'm sure the piracy problem would cease to exist. If a country doesn't want to police it's own inhabitants then they should be prepared for any consequences, that's akin to simply being in open war as far as I'm concerned. This goes for the middle east as well, if you don't care to keep your citizens from blowing themselves up on foreign soil then be prepared for war that's all I'm sayin. Don't cry about how you're victims when you're harboring the people that caused the problems in the first place. The fact that "pirate chief" could just openly admit he's a "pirate chief" speaks volumes to the culture lmfao. Didn't pirates used to be just hung without trial? Why did we change that?
yeah, lets bomb countries and its innocent inhabitants because some other inhabitants that happen to live within the same borders are criminals. also, let's hang people without trial. you seem seriously messed up. given that the US committed countless horribble crimes abroad and killed millions of innocent people, are you in favour of bombing american shores?
The problem has a very simple solution. They just need to give a standing kill order whenever the pirates try to enter the ship. This should fix everything.
This is apparently what happens with Chinese vessels. The word is out: do not get captured by the PLA navy. "Where are the pirates you were signaling us about?" "Pirates? We have no idea. Look: none on board." The word soon spreads. No chocolates and champagne when you get picked up. More likely blown out of the water before yu get near. Boat sunk, humans dumped. Hi Davy Jones.
You'll never stop piracy by being nice to the pirates. For the last 500 years or so, piracy was handled one way. By the pirates being blown out of the water. That's all you need to do.
When a person engaged in criminal activity says “It’s a matter of life and death for me (us) I’m reminded of El Chapo (Guzmán) saying the same thing…while literally sitting on billions of dollars of drug money.
This is the 2009 documentary "Pirater" directed by Øystein Bogen. The situation in the Gulf of Aden has changed significantly since this was filmed. Outside of a couple of factually dubious bits, this is a well done documentary.
@@edumengue7702 Things have changed for the better. Most shippers have hired trained security to deter the skinny's. Mostly former combat vets. I briefly worked for a company and did a few trips. It wasn't what I expected at all though. We only had one situation but it ended very quickly one they were met with force. They didn't even get close enough for our rifles to be effective. But they got the message and turned around.
if you look at how somalia with its land resources is a playground for usa, china, russia and many more, nuclear waste of industry nations being dumped in their oceans, overfishing by foreign ships - it makes you think about who the real pirates are in this story and who are the victims. imagine youre so poor, starving and desperate to drive a small unprotected boat into hails of bullets. It is a human tragedy.
It's honestly not original content. I saw this documentary on TH-cam several years ago. I was hoping this was something new, but it was the same documentary from years past that I watched on another channel.
They dumped nuclear waste off the Somali coast when I was there in the 1990's. German and French Nuclear waste was dumped and the Italians were also involved with American support.
bro this comment section is full of idiots. "just make sure the pirates never are seen again" yea because that worked so well throughout history this is a problem caused by the west, from over fishing and illegal bilge dumping destroying the fish population where people depend on that. its just like the wars in the middle east creating a beast of an insurgency over the last 25 years its not somalia's fault, its the west's fault. humanitarian aid would be much more effective a quelling the piracy problem, because desperate people do desperate things. they are backed into a corner, commit piracy, or you and your family starve. they arent evil, they dont harm the hostages 99/100 times.
@@bakaloid2940 thats the most retarded thing ive heard all year. how people in the countries with the best education in the world can be so retarded baffles me. the piracy is caused by the west. they made their bed and now they're lying in it. if they wanted to actually stop the piracy tehy would give the areas were pirates come from, food and water. because theres no work there for most people so they cant make money so they turn to piracy if you had no way to provide resources for your family and they were going to starve unless you did something, you would turn to crime, or you are a terrible family man.
16:04 - Doing evil deeds is a choice, not an inevitability when life gets hard. Billions around the world work and struggle daily, but honestly, without using their circumstances as an excuse for becoming criminals.
It’s amazing that pirates that are so poor they have to be pirates ,but they can afforded machine guns and weapons that can sink a ship. I have a good paying job and I can’t afford those kinds of weapons !
@@JAlves88 Probably continuing to pay their private militia, since Somalia is full of pirates and militia's, might not be possible to just sit back and retire peacefully
so true! Why don't they start a business after having millions of dollars for a ransom making toothpicks and sell it to America lol... they don't need so much brains to make toothpicks hahaha
The thumbnail is excellent. What better Machine Gun to deal with pirates than the MG42/MG3? (Except a Mini Gun but that's a lot of potential for mechanical and electrical failure) Its extremely fast rate of fire ensures the pirates' boats can't zig-zag through the trail of bullets without eating a few every pass.
Probably because that would also require the crew to be either trained in the use of firearms, or the company would have to hire bodyguards. Which is another expenditure. And unfortunately, despite the fact that these corporations probably make billions of dollars every week, they never seem to be willing to shell out the money for a few guys trained in the use of weapons. Despite the fact that I can tell you right now, there are probably hundreds if not thousands of veteran soldiers from various military’s that would be happy to lend their services.
@@JustTip922 thank you for your service. I myself have no military experience however, in my high school and junior college years I was a competitive shooter. Granted, a dinky little Ruger 22 is a far cry from something like say an A.R. 15 patterned weapon. But I digress. Like you, I would be more than willing to lend my services if the possibility arose. And they wouldn’t even need to pay me a whole lot. Probably just enough for travel costs to get to and from the areas where the ships are. And that’s probably about it.
If there's no law about weapons at sea then crew member should all be allowed and even encouraged to have their own rifles and pistols as well as receiving training in them, I know it's not as effective as having professionals do it and may be even more dangerous if caught by the pirates, but they could at least have a chance to shoot at the pirates way before they board if they so wish
bit late to this but yeah, there are so many 'skiffs' and fishing boats already on the water, your "auto-target" idea would be disastrous to the poor old fart just trying to earn his pittance catching fish... All he would be catching instead is a 7.62 mm round to the head. Then he'd end up dead. Ok, time for bed.
@@brothermaleuspraetor9505 100% agree. It was more of a self-burn but Phalanxes are pretty programmable, COD notwithstanding. I mean, a Phalanx augmented with ChatGPT, what could go wrong?
It's all just a landslide of fortune for many parties, and not just the pirates. The land side lawyers, analysts, the insurance companies, the security companies, the list goes on and one. This has become an industry.
not really... sink their boats make them swim back to the mother ship. nobody needs to know what its going out there. like stated above they would kill and rape you for their selfish greed.....
I wouldn't be surprised if the leniency on what constitutes evidence is a building block in that industry. All these different groups wouldn't get paid if there were no pirates, so they have to let them go because there's "no evidence" of piracy.
Right, you’d think so. If I were younger, I’d think about starting a company to outfit ships to protect them against pirates. One big one that gets me is that there seems to always be a perfect edge for the pirates ladders. Weld on a wide lip so there’s nothing for the ladders to hook onto.
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The Kenyan issue is corruption. The piracy business made so many Somalis and lawyers very rich. It made property prices go up as well. To this date you can see the Somali businesses thriving around the country of Kenya. They are good business people but what they can't tell you is the sources of their funds. Very crafty about their businesses.
❤ 32 of us just watched this awesome documentary! We love your channel. Within the first three minutes of watching, however, the majority of our viewers asked the same question: "Why are merchant vessels not armed?" The question was never asked nor answered during the episode. Could you please enlighten us? It seems so very simple, yet governments are allowing its citizens to be taken hostage, mistreated, and often losing millions of dollars worth of cargo.
Glad you enjoyed it! And I don’t know the answer to your question. I think it may be because it would cost extra to have armed security on board. Maybe the shipping companies are just too cheap and would rather take the risk. That’s my guess
This doc is from 2009. Since then, there has been an industry shift to allow and encourage armed private security. They compares initially were weary to employ private armed force, and it took a while for them to come around. No ship with armed guards has successfully been taken by pirates. Due to an industry shift toward armed security and a change of politics ashore that led to an anti-piracy campaign in Puntland (the region of Somalia where pirates were launching from) there has been no successful attack since 2014.
so no pirates are killed? that's why they keep doing it. If you have a million dollars in Somalia, you and a family of 6 can stay alive comfortably for the rest of your life...seriously!
@@billwhite5853 He is saying it's about time to change the laws SO THAT all ships are ABLE to shoot to destroy pirates... = that means every pirate will be killed. Does that make sense to you?
It seems like if you go through the Panama canal you pay a tax. You go through the Suez Canal You pay another tax. You go through the Somali waters and you just slide by if they don't attack your ship. Now they are not pirating the whole deep ocean. What if they gave them some kind of supplies and I'm not talking firearms or anything like that. I'm talking food that the people can use and take back with them they would make the trip out there worth it. Make it a tax fee for using their portion of the ocean. Has anybody paid them for going through their part of the ocean?
The numbers just dont add up, they get a $3M ransom, sell the cargo, live in one of the poor areas in the world, and they're not so rich they can quit? Just sound shady.
The money from just 1 ransomed ship should make the entire country of Somalia well-off for the next 30 years. Then they can do another one. OR buy a commercial fishing vessel and beat the foreign fishermen at their own game.
I'm wondering the same thing. But, did you see the guns, the boats... I think white people actually get those money back when they buy weapons and munitions. They should actually invests in military scientific knowledge so they don't spent money buying weapons. Instead they should create the munitions.
Things have changed significantly since this 2016 documentary was released. Piracy in that area was all but put to an end by 2021. In 2022 the UN had let the deadline pass that would have allowed them to continue with a military patrol presence, so we shall see what happens in the future.
Counter piracy taskforce: pirate hunting : Are you hungry,do you like some sandwiches and maybe an new Gps?What a terrifying taskforce,this wil scare all pirates 😂😢
In most countries, weapons are not allowed on boats when they’re in port. If I were a boat captain, I’d have a very good place to hide some weapons where they’d never be found.
although is not actually said, was it the ukranian mothers who facilitated the invovement of a ukranian billionaire ? i kind of have a gut feeling that it was ? @@ENDEVRDocs
Nato warships: “we can’t do anything even tho a small fisherman skit is filled with man armed to the teeth” “we are not gonna hurt them that is unethical lets just give the our food and water” pirates: “we are probably gonna start slitting throats”
LMAO, IKR? There's DEFINITELY money making going on in Europe over this... "NO! You can't kill the Pirates, we made a deal with their government- oops!, forget that last bit"...
They will say there is no jobs, it`s poverty, blah blah blah. Gangsters, pirates, scammers, prostitutes and the like, will always come up with some weak excuse. For sure crime is not the best way to go. Once your gets known for criminal activities, then kiss goodbye to real investors
are you aware that there actually are no jobs and that they actually are poor and are not just making this up? what do you think is the reason that those pirates are somali and not us american? might it have something to do with the fact that somali is a very poor country?
Just ridiculous. Not only do they let these pirates go free, they feed and water them and help them get back to so they can rearm and attack another ship. I would rather they been lost at see never to harm anyone ever again.
This was a fail....I still have no idea how they get away without being shot by the ship owners. Wait till they get on the ladder and unhook it...what am I missing here.
I have seen this documentry five years ago when piracy was really a problem but now it's not because of intense patrolling by EU ,US warships in the gulf of Aden so it's an old piece of work
That ship contains military equipment would have been a huge score for the pirates. They might not have even wanted to bother with a ransom. The cargo was good enough and worth tens of millions.
The war in the Ukraine is teaching us a lot about the use of drones to attack the Russians. It seems to me using drones on the pirates would work just as well as it does on the Russians. We do not need those multimillion dollar types. We are not trying to destroy tanks. Those wooden boats would react to a grenade much better than a tank would.
@@emilygooner9697 Do you people think pirates sail around in a ship with a black flag on it? or do you think they put their status as "conducting piracy" on their AIS? the navies patrolling the area have 100 different ways to destroy the pirate ships should they be able to identify them, identifying them is the tricky point since they blend as civilians
Glad both sides of the pirate dilemma were shown, but the film makers should have gone into a little more detail about how the Somali fisheries were forcefully depleted by illegal fishing boats.
This video tries to make Somalia out to be the victim when much was due to their own civil war and poor Governing. Small-scale fishers suffered from the cessation of government support due to the civil war. Unrecognized and unrealistic claims of 200NM Somalian waters were never recognized as legitimate. All this led to illegal fishing within their waters and impacted their ability to provide a legitimate fishing income.
For the ship that was hijacked that was carrying all that weaponry ... WHY did no one have the sense to pull out some of that weaponry and defend themselves??? Isn't that one definition of 'wimps'???
It no defination of such!Remember all cargo is packed and sealed and has to be assembled by experts-besides no crew has the right to do such other than transporting the cargo from A to B.
Dad was on a ship near those waters in the mid 60s. If they had attacked, they would have found that there were two .50 cal machine guns on that unarmed ship. And dad, even as an E-9 likely would have been manning one of them as just before going to the ship ( served as the Master at Arms also ) he had taken the Shoulder, Hand, and Base Defense Weapons course of the USAF. Which included the M2 MG.
Releasing them leaves what I see as 3 options for the future: (1) They try it again, are unsuccessful and either die or repeat; (2) They successfully take a ship hostage; (3) They quit - which, from what was said in this documentary, is highly unlikely
Releasing them is the worst thing to do. They should be hundreds of feet below the water fertilizing the floor of the sea, but instead they are kept around, presumably because someone found out how to make money off of trade vessels being hijacked without being the ones to hijack it.
Is there really a dedicated effort to stop Somali piracy? Different interwoven stories from the world of piracy give a new and unique perspective on this issue.
No since everyone profits from african resources
why dont you idiots make documentaries on how the thug USA is wasting resources in the south china sea instead of tackling piracies?
What year was this made? It can't be current.
Everyone is benefitting so there is not much incentive to stop it. Why don't the shipping companies take the money they are paying to insurance companies and start an industry to recuit and employ Somalis who have become pirates due to not having many other options. The Somalis can be paid to be private security to protect their own waters.
@s111stock Then the big insurance companies wouldn't make the money they are making now .
It would also make a dent into the profits of the industry military complex.
Greed has taken over unfortunately.
The best way to discourage this kind f behaviour is that none of them are heard from again. No Repeat offenders.
Plus their carcasses feed the fishes, win-win.
US tried that in Afghanistan for 20 years, and it failed. For 30 years in Viet Nam.
@@kengrubb conquering another country is completely different than pacifying some pirates
Exactly. "Prate hunting" is like bass fishing. Catch and release policies ensures the population of prates does not diminish over time. The rules of engagement make military forces useless, which is why shipping companies should just turn to mercenaries to deal with the issue.
Yes, caught in the act. Die in the act 😮😅😅😅
The majority of people have no idea just how lucrative and dangerous piracy is in the areas mentioned in this documentary. Additionally, people do not realize just how vast and open these areas are and how much "action" is going on across such a huge area. I spent many years helping to defend from piracy in those areas and it was at a minimum once a week we were engaging and being engaged by pirates. Our main goal was to immobilize/destroy their vessels as quickly as possible and often times we would deal collateral casualties to the crew of those pirate vessels, the pirates really never stood a chance, but they were determined and it was heartbreaking to watch them fight for nothing in the end. I am now retired from it all and some things still haunt me to this day. EDIT: This documentary was great and it still only shows a "taste" of how every day "business" really is. Unfortunately, people will do horrible things for money/wealth.
A teamate of mine in the army later joined as security to fight off pirates in waters near somalia and the area. He did it for 3 years I think and said it was a pretty lucrative job. Was able to get down payments to build a very nice property on a decent plot of land.
Most of the people that are pirating are in poverty all they want is money to a better life
Especially if you was by yourself and unprepared for it they would kill you in heart beat and think nothing of it!!
@partyrocks the UN help the country of Somalia, when Bill Clinton was president and humanitarian relief agencies were in there before that. They were attacked the supplies for the starving people were stolen, and in the end military action was taken up. So don’t talk about they’re just hungry the world tried, and in the end there’s some very cruel and sadistic, countrymen that have killed mauled and stolen from their own.
trc ,@@SludgeMan90😊cfg5 ý
If there is no law about owning weapons in international waters, there should also be no laws prohibiting the confiscation of these weapons. If it's a lawless land, anything goes. One suggestion is to control the movement of the pirates and when it is time for them to attack a ship, sink their vessel, with or without them on board. For big problems, big solutions.
The world is too tolerant of evil
The problem is not what goes on in international waters. It's what goes on in nationally owned waters. The arms needed to confiscate Somali weapons are not allowed to be carried in some waters owned by other countries that you must inevitably sail through.
@@DavidRoddy-w4t you all speak off your couch with any clue whats going on in the real world ever story has two sides but feed on what your served after all your human
@@mohamedmohamud604 We don't tolerate thieves. And you had better hope we stay on our couches. Or would you rather we come to your home? Please, keep sending us invitations.
@@emmanuelgoldstein1918 Violence only breeds violence. Not trusting the words of the pirate from the documentary but you have to admit that whole of Africa was, is and will be exploited which by it's self creates such desperate people whom you, as a happy oblivious consumer, see as an enemy/threat. Be civilized and seek a common, peaceful solution and don't degrade to an animal state by seeking "eye for an eye". Let's take the 4 mil USD that's been paid to Kenya for little to no results and imagine what it can do if it were to be invested in infrastructure and jobs in Somalia or the operational costs for the US/EU Warships in the gulf of ADEN or the millions paid to insurance companies and mercenaries. Doesn't it strike odd for you the sudden change in attitude of the Danish captain or the service personnel on the EU ship during their deployment? Just think for a bit, I'm sure you can follow basic logic. At the end of the day, you are not alone on this world and if you can't help others at the very least, don't condemn them, please.
A couple of trained marksman with automatic weapons, 50 cal mounted machine guns on both deck sides! No muss, no fuss, no pirates!
You took the words right outta my mouth!!!
Add a few rpg or armed drones!
I guess insurance prevents an armed response from shipping companies…I’d cross train my people and arm like a platoon… sniper- light and heavy machine guns…possibly tech guy with drones?
Exactly ! I don't see what the problem is !
@@johnconnolly5117
Is there an insurance underwriter on the trip?
If you're not shooting to kill then it is a poor deterrence.
Especially if you feed and water them and give them directions home.
What a joke.
@@Muckylittleme Totally. They need to be purged. Every ship going through that Gulf of $hithole should mount a 20 mm cannon on it's highest point, and have a few other armed & trained crew and take care of business as it arises. The problem would be done with very quickly. Purged...
They gave them food. Maybe they should bring virgins with them and share one for everyone?...
!?- But where will they get virgins in Europe?🤣
bro this comment section is full of idiots. "just make sure the pirates never are seen again" yea because that worked so well throughout history
this is a problem caused by the west, from over fishing and illegal bilge dumping destroying the fish population where people depend on that.
its just like the wars in the middle east creating a beast of an insurgency over the last 25 years
its not somalia's fault, its the west's fault. humanitarian aid would be much more effective a quelling the piracy problem, because desperate people do desperate things. they are backed into a corner, commit piracy, or you and your family starve. they arent evil, they dont harm the hostages 99/100 times.
@@rawa5457 where are you from ?
"you can't start a war at 8 o'clock in the morning because nobody's at work yet" my favorite line
what's the timestamp?
@@oghater 36:27 😂
That captain was quite a bloke haha
0800, I would have been at work for a couple hours most days. And some of them I would have been getting off work at 0600 if on the 1800-0600 shift.
@@gravelydon7072 mee too
Wow. Catch a boatload of pirates, give them food and water and then escort them home. How wonderfully nice of you. The world has gone crazy.
Thats the EU way, absolute disgrace of an institution
bro this comment section is full of idiots. "just make sure the pirates never are seen again" yea because that worked so well throughout history
this is a problem caused by the west, from over fishing and illegal bilge dumping destroying the fish population where people depend on that.
its just like the wars in the middle east creating a beast of an insurgency over the last 25 years
its not somalia's fault, its the west's fault. humanitarian aid would be much more effective a quelling the piracy problem, because desperate people do desperate things. they are backed into a corner, commit piracy, or you and your family starve. they arent evil, they dont harm the hostages 99/100 times.
You have irrefutable proof they that they did in fact intend to commit piracy? Using your logic, someone could watch you drive a car and have you arrested for possibly committing vehicular manslaughter.
And the leftards will stay say its the westerners taking advantage of the poor victims of the thirld world
@@BabyMakR you missed the point, they arent using logic lol
Unbelievable that the Norwegian navy provided the pirates with food and drinks. As captain of a merchant ship, I would certainly want to have weapons on board. There are probably a few among the crew who can handle weapons.
Ya pretty ridiculous feed them lol
I would have NO Mercy for pirates. I don't care what their reason is. The world of trade is much more important than their petty grievances. If your economy is gone. .then go to another country and make an honest living. No more excuses.
Unbelievable that they lower ladders to let pirates onboard.
@@ballsyrocker what an attitude towards the poor people who used to be fishermen!. But their trade was stolen from them by the international community. It is pathetic to read. Go to another country and make an honest living?? Are you for real? Do you even know where this going on? The "other" countries are in the same situation, because countries like yours are just rolling over them to have their oil and gas. The international community with USA as the culprit number 1 is the reason why this whole region is in the state of disharmony..... You should be ashamed with this kind of attitude.....
@@ballsyrockerjust go to another country? 😂 they are the poorest people on this planet
@57:00 pirate leader threatens to begin slitting the throats of the Merchant Seamen. Narrator also says the pirates are now wealthy. Hard to convince me that the depleted fisheries of peaceful fishermen is what motivates these men. ~Blessings~
He didn’t say anything about cutting anyone’s throats . He simply said the world will listen when they start doing what the old pirates 🏴☠️ use to do if they keep taking our guns , kidding our men ect . Never believe what anyone writes on cc . Ask a native
Exactly !
each of these 60 pirates got 40 times the average somali yearly income iff they spllitted that 3 mill even
@@JR-mh8vn
That money is just from one heist as well. They do multiple, so you can multiply that number.
It's just really fishy if you actually think about it.
Leaves the question:
Why do these pirates attack the cargo vessels now but not the illegal fishing vessels before?
Money
Ah. You have come to the Realization that their story is B.S. Congratulations. 😂
Bruh they’re afrikans do you expect them to be honest and good people?
@@jamesjoseph5707 Why is it bs? Pirates attack cargo ships because they know those companies have the money to pay ransoms in the millions.
@@macaroo90That's true, if they don't get killed doing it.
I had a friend ex British Army who did this, he said it was a horrible job. He had low paid, low quality, low courage, low discipline underlings aboard the vessel who we're more a liability than a benefit. The firms that supply this lousy standard of protection make billions.
I know a soldier who works in the counter task force. On his last deployment they had a boat shooting at them so the opened fire and sunk the dingy and killed a few of the pirates and wounded one guy.
After the firefight they had to save the surviving pirates from drowning.
No countries in the vacinity wanted to take the pirates into jail and charge them with piracy (costs noone wants) so they all ended up being set free at sea in swimming distance from the shore exept the one wounded guy who needed medical attention.
Because of rules of engagement the wounded pirate ended up being transported all the way to scandinavia (where the soldiers came from) to get treated AND charged with crimes of piracy. -And yes, being wounded he was the only one getting charged for crimes while the others was set free because of bureaucracy...
Whats is the funny but absurd outcome? -The danish state is required to help the pirate heal and literally get back on his feet... So the pirate is getting a wooden leg paid for by my taxes...
I repeat; WE ARE PAYING FOR A WOODEN LEG FOR A PIRATE!! :D
Serves your country right after what you did to inuites of Greenland for several decades. A-holes!
har har
Did the wounded pirate get a taxpayer funded parrot too?
@@twig3288 nope, we didn't shoot anyone in the parrot, where ever that is located... 😆
@@Rob-ke2hu well... I'd prefer a global economy that didn't make ppl wanna steal and rob others to make a living... killing eachother like madmen seems like a midevil solution...😉
To stop the pirates, you have to take no prisoners. Let no one escape.
calm down cod warrior. Have you even done any security work in your lifetime? Are you 12?
maybe if the international companies surfing through somali waters could pay a stipend for use of and damage to their food systems? That would stop the pirates and fewer people have the die. The amount the companies would have to pay wouldnt probably really impact their profits significantly 🤷
@@cnutwycliffesson your suggestion is one of cowardly corruption.
Then we will close it no one will pass the gulf of aden
Absolutely!
Prior to World War Two. Merchant vessels in pirate water would be armed. Rifles, pistols, machine guns and even small cannons usually under 76 mm (3 inch) in size.
WWII was such a huge mistake and benefited the wrong people.
dang they got my pp in cannons
Those .50 cals punch through destroyers, so they would be enough for defense. You also could drop some grenades into their boats, problem solved. It should be relatively easy to defend a ship.
An assault rifle with a grenade launcher would make short work of those skiffs
@@0Turbox And also PT boats, PBY Catalinas had them if you ever played COD WAW
That pirate is a true PoS. When they attack a warship, the navy just gives them water and tells them to be on their way and he’s so mad about being “mistreated,” he’s going to start killing hostages…
In the days of High Piracy and Buccaneering in the1700s and 1800s. The ships involved were of similar displacement, speed and armor.
Here, you have pirates in tiny wooded or plastic boats. How they are able to high jack a steel ship 100s of times larger than them is baffling.
In most navies of the world. Strange ships are not allowed near the vessel. or Else. A 50 cal. gun should be standard on ALL ships sailing in these waters.
exactly, even the sight of a 50 cal would keep them away, let alone the register. This whole problem is due to the new 'sensitivity' required by western nations. The criminals are simply misunderstood. They are the true victims.
Get Henry Avery on the Somalians .
Not true, pirates mostly used small vessels even in the golden age of piracy.
Canoes and small sloops, basically a big rowboat with sails, were the most common pirate ships. Their general thought was 10 men with muskets do as much damage as a medium size cannon.
Just like now they used night and currents to bring themselves close to vessels then quickly board and subdue the crew, who just like back in the day, are not soldiers and are not looking to fight for someone else's goods.
Once the pyrates board the ships the size difference is gone. It's man against man through the sights of a rifle. The crews of these ships aren't trained or equipped for such risks.
unarmed crews obviously
56:54 "we feel compelled to begin cutting the throats of our hostages" chilling final words from the "head" pirate. If they start doing that, then that's my sympathy gone, and I say take whatever action is needed to stop them for good. The ransoms that have been paid already to these pirates should allow all of the pirates and their friends and families and relatives to live well ... no need to escalate things and continue to go around attacking vessels and hurting people. It's just greed of the part of the pirates. Blaming the USA and Europe for depleting their fishing is ridiculous lies.
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At least there’s that 🤷🏿♂️💯🤡🌎. 🙈😩
They up the stakes, they will be signing their own death warrants. Plus sailors won't want to do those trips.
Ridiculous lies you can confirm? You can't just dismiss something because you don't like it. Too easy to judge from a high, pampered, well-fed horse
@AcademicMonkey China is the country that is raping and overfishing the oceans around the world. And you make a lot of assumptions about me: "high, pampered, well-fed", showing how little you know.
Yeah yeah, its never been USA or Europe's fault, even sun rotating around USA not the earth. Without USA, our life would be very miserable because USA invented oxygen.
Being soft on piracy makes piracy more lucrative. Getting tougher on piracy will make piracy less lucrative. 50:02
To add:
The entire reason why the Pirates DON'T kill all of the passengers or destroy the boats is because of the ransoms. If they blow up the crafts, THERE IS NO RANSOM. So they wouldn't do that.
That dude's logic is so hilarious. He seems to simp for the pirates throughout this video.
Not only that, these pirates get MILLIONS of dollars from a ransom, yet they keep doing them.
Something's fishy.
@@PiousSlayer yeah, I’m sure there is a large racketeering scam somewhere between western governments and corporations.
Walking the plank is still a valid form of punishment for piracy in my opinion.
Agreed any Pirate is forced to Swim or they will be back doing it again after short time in Prison
I just finished the other documentary on piracy in Nigeria & Somalia with the French Professor, gotta watch this one next! Loving this content!
Same lol
Me too 😭
He is legend
Can you put his link if you found more
Same😊
You are on a boat loaded with weaponry and never thought to arm themselves?? Damn that is messed up.
In what world does whoever shipped that not equip them with a team of armed security..........crazy!
They'd be sent to prison for the rest of their lives if they took up arms and actually fought back.
@@1Thatstrangeguy Dumbest comment ive read in a while
@@1Thatstrangeguy Why? Isn't the point of security to defend?
@@dingus6317 The hired security? Probably not. The ship crew that just happened to be transporting weapons, Absolutely.
It is insane that not only they have to let the pirate goes, but also feed them so they will be fine on their way back to re-arm and try again.
The problem is at any time they have a couple of hundred hostages, so if their boats were sunk, guns taken the hostages might be killed or mistreated. The only solution is to pay the ransoms for all hostages at once, get them out and then destroy the pirates and their stuff in future. After 2 or 3 boats go out with 100% fatalities you can bet that piracy will drop off
if you look at how somalia with its land resources is a playground for usa, china, russia and many more, nuclear waste of industry nations being dumped in their oceans, overfishing by foreign ships - it makes you think about who the real pirates are in this story and who are the victims. imagine youre so poor, starving and desperate to drive a small unprotected boat into hails of bullets. It is a human tragedy.
@@anyexpat some of their boats probably already have a 100% fatality rate
They learned that from here in the USA. The USA treats the criminals here in the same manner.
@@B126USMCIn Democrat cities, sure.
A wrong cannot be justified by another wrong that's for sure.
[33 : 5] The chief pirate's father died as a result of bullying by the "foreign fishermen" as they were fishing. The man is sad and hurt as he gives the story.
What ever is going on those coastlines is far more than just piracy and it better be addressed before things escalate [56:57]
Apparently no one wants to hear that, I guess it’s okay when commercially illegally exploiting fishing grounds on someone’s territory.😢
I'd say it's a response of greed, not a response of desperation...! Stuff that you obtain through hard work actually means something...! Stolen stuff is not worth anything to me...!!! Thanks
When you have nothing, something seems like everything. When you have everything, all things seem like nothing.
A prostitute will say there is no jobs, blah blah blah, gangsters, pirates, scammers and the like, will always come up with some weak excuse. For sure crime is not the best way to go. Once your community or country gets known for criminal activities, then kiss goodbye to real investors
@@tobiasmangoma9566 yea but the criminal world has loads of investors. That's why a life of crime is so attractive and there are those who succeed. But without a doubt, few escape death or prison if they make it a career.
@@Zei33 the average somali makes 450 dollars a year those pirates although they splitted it up with 60 pirates still are making a life time worths of money they going to be rich asf if they wanted to survive they would settle with less and get out quicker those boys wanted a big score
@@JR-mh8vnow that's interesting thanks...... 450 a year sounds right around a lot of 3rd world countries income that's the thing!
It seems as though the concept of deterrent is somewhat misunderstood in certain quarters, in fact the current method provides encouragement by making sure that even if the pirates fail to takeover a vessel, they get a nice packed lunch for the trip home.
I can't see many of the pirates saying, 'Never again.......'
If the reaction fits the crime, in this case the message is clear, piracy isn't a big deal, it's a misdemeanour, nothing more.
They said that in spite of NATO's presence + general increased security, piracy was still on the increase........... Why that might be?....?...... I can't begin to imagine?....?......
Strange things happen at sea.
Seems that way doesn’t it? then again, the way things seem and the way things are rarely are the same thing. Deterrent by strong punishment is not as effective as you might think, in fact it may make your adversaries more dangerous if the threat is death. The people who become pirates most likely don’t do so for fun but rather necessity.. if you had the choice between certainly dying of poverty/hunger/thirst or dying in an attempt to rob someone else… but then those people, with you on your knees ready to die in your failure, show mercy and compassion and HELP YOU? Or on the other side, would you execute them? Is that a war crime? Think a little harder about being a human, and the true complexity of this situation. Please.
@@kamikazemelon787the Russians certainly don’t spare anyone. Anyway, the reality is, people that grow up in developing and underdeveloped countries have completely different values and thought processes. As a whole, they’re harder and more cutthroat than us. Mercy _is_ just seen as being given another opportunity to try again. It’s wishful and naive thinking that fails to understand the mindset, when you say that compassion will somehow change their mind.
@@kamikazemelon787 The idea they had no choice other than becoming pirates is ridiculous.
They became pirates, + remain so, hoping to bag multi-million dollar ransoms, depleted fish stocks has nothing to do with it.
Any compassion I had was for the Ukrainian hostages, held for months in conditions totally unnecessarily cramped + confined. They were the only true victims I saw in that film.
There are two ways to deal with pirates. The western version is coddle these pirates with care and comfort. Even feeding these pirates with culturally sensitive food items. The wealthy owners of these shipping companies couldn't care any less about the captured crews.
Or, the Russian way. Remove the pirate crew from the skiff, comfort and care is of no concern. Remove all weapons or anything that may be used as a weapon. Put the pirates back into their skiff, along with some explosive devices. Let the pirates float some distance away. Then a sound like a Kaboom is off in the distance. No pirate problem.
Give them kaboom! Agree!!
The "lead pirate" has come up with a "very convincing" tale of why pirating is okay. It is never right to do wrong because wrong has been done to you! They got millions of dollars as a ransom and could have shared the wealth and lived the rest of their lives on that. Instead their greed keeps them after more money and they are now trying to instill fear by saying, "we will slit their throats" His thinking about attacking the ships he is instead of even fishing boats is about as dumb as say, "one of my daughters gets raped and killed." Soooo... I go and have some boy or man, UNRELATED to the attack, raped and killed!
I think that almost all the money goes to warlords behind the scene. The guys we see are just "soldiers" who get only breadcrumbs.
You know that’s a really novel idea. I think you just institute a new policy where you create pirate rape porn. You let them get on the ship and then you capture them. Then you Mandingo fight them till they can’t walk and then you have them rape each other or you cut their balls off.
The Algo is clearly suppressing speech again past 2 days the amount of invisible replies on various channels is high
Agreed, BUT there is truth in the “desperate men do desperate things” root cause too. There are many problems in the world where the motivation is lack of work, lack of resources, your family is starving, or you see no future prospects. Whether it’s a Somali pirate, a Palestinian militant, a Syrian suicide bomber, gang members in LA or NYC, or any number of others (typically younger men) who see disadvantage and do not see much to live for, there will be trouble. Without steps to solve such social issues, the problems persist.
By your logic the Norwegian navy should not be hunting these fishermen "pirates" because It is never right to do wrong because wrong has been done to you!
Can we just take a moment and appreciate the voice over artist?
"it's a matter of life or death for us" well that tends to happen when you commit armed attacks on international shipping. The fact that the countries that have piracy being launched from their shores aren't the ones policing it are why it's a problem. If you do nothing about pirates actively launching attacks from your shores then you should be prepared to have frequent naval bombardments peppering your shores as well. But of course that would be seen as not "politically correct." The world has become so laughably backwards that people care more about protecting criminals and those harboring them than the innocent people falling victim to said criminals. Just turn any shoreline with piracy into craters and I'm sure the piracy problem would cease to exist. If a country doesn't want to police it's own inhabitants then they should be prepared for any consequences, that's akin to simply being in open war as far as I'm concerned. This goes for the middle east as well, if you don't care to keep your citizens from blowing themselves up on foreign soil then be prepared for war that's all I'm sayin. Don't cry about how you're victims when you're harboring the people that caused the problems in the first place. The fact that "pirate chief" could just openly admit he's a "pirate chief" speaks volumes to the culture lmfao. Didn't pirates used to be just hung without trial? Why did we change that?
Exactly ! 👍
but but.. muh slavery....
Finally somebody said it!
yeah, lets bomb countries and its innocent inhabitants because some other inhabitants that happen to live within the same borders are criminals. also, let's hang people without trial. you seem seriously messed up. given that the US committed countless horribble crimes abroad and killed millions of innocent people, are you in favour of bombing american shores?
What should have been done about none native ships that stripped the fish and seafood stocks off Somalia shores? Just asking.
The problem has a very simple solution.
They just need to give a standing kill order whenever the pirates try to enter the ship. This should fix everything.
Then the price of the goods that are being shipped can go down
This is apparently what happens with Chinese vessels. The word is out: do not get captured by the PLA navy.
"Where are the pirates you were signaling us about?" "Pirates? We have no idea. Look: none on board."
The word soon spreads. No chocolates and champagne when you get picked up. More likely blown out of the water before yu get near. Boat sunk, humans dumped. Hi Davy Jones.
Neither the Russians, or the Chinese ships ever gets pirated.
and the somalis have kill order to anyone dump garbage on their seas . they are not pirates they are coast guards
Pathetic and embarrassing having to not only let them go BUT give them food and water as well!
"Turn off the cameras and we'll do that then" said the Captain. That's exactly what I would have said, smart man.
@@bionicchipmunkthat would be very kind to give people food that kidnap and murder people. You're correct!
I would have given them lead! .45 ACP Lunch
@@bionicchipmunk I'd drop a bomb on the entire country.
@@bionicchipmunk that's the whole point. They're not smart enough to make shoes.
You'll never stop piracy by being nice to the pirates. For the last 500 years or so, piracy was handled one way. By the pirates being blown out of the water. That's all you need to do.
When a person engaged in criminal activity says “It’s a matter of life and death for me (us) I’m reminded of El Chapo (Guzmán) saying the same thing…while literally sitting on billions of dollars of drug money.
Hey man 👋
Hey wanna build a rocket 🚀???
@@mariocooldude9092
Okay, you finance it, I’ll build it and tell everyone it was my idea.
@@Ckom-Tunes lol
This is the 2009 documentary "Pirater" directed by Øystein Bogen. The situation in the Gulf of Aden has changed significantly since this was filmed. Outside of a couple of factually dubious bits, this is a well done documentary.
it is worse or better now?
No, it was an hour filming people riding on ships, including a so-called pirate hunting military ship that did absolute zero.
@@edumengue7702 Things have changed for the better.
Most shippers have hired trained security to deter the skinny's.
Mostly former combat vets.
I briefly worked for a company and did a few trips. It wasn't what I expected at all though.
We only had one situation but it ended very quickly one they were met with force.
They didn't even get close enough for our rifles to be effective. But they got the message and turned around.
i have a black bf
@@Chloe-jh3eh thanks for the troll-bait.
Classic example of catch and release. Totally insane!
if you look at how somalia with its land resources is a playground for usa, china, russia and many more, nuclear waste of industry nations being dumped in their oceans, overfishing by foreign ships - it makes you think about who the real pirates are in this story and who are the victims. imagine youre so poor, starving and desperate to drive a small unprotected boat into hails of bullets. It is a human tragedy.
Awesome work mate
This video is a gem. It's refreshing to see such unique and original content on TH-cam.
Awesome glad you like our stuff.
It's honestly not original content. I saw this documentary on TH-cam several years ago. I was hoping this was something new, but it was the same documentary from years past that I watched on another channel.
They dumped nuclear waste off the Somali coast when I was there in the 1990's. German and French Nuclear waste was dumped and the Italians were also involved with American support.
Not surprised a single bit
bro this comment section is full of idiots. "just make sure the pirates never are seen again" yea because that worked so well throughout history
this is a problem caused by the west, from over fishing and illegal bilge dumping destroying the fish population where people depend on that.
its just like the wars in the middle east creating a beast of an insurgency over the last 25 years
its not somalia's fault, its the west's fault. humanitarian aid would be much more effective a quelling the piracy problem, because desperate people do desperate things. they are backed into a corner, commit piracy, or you and your family starve. they arent evil, they dont harm the hostages 99/100 times.
Good. They should keep on dumping more waste.
@@bakaloid2940 thats the most retarded thing ive heard all year. how people in the countries with the best education in the world can be so retarded baffles me.
the piracy is caused by the west. they made their bed and now they're lying in it. if they wanted to actually stop the piracy tehy would give the areas were pirates come from, food and water. because theres no work there for most people so they cant make money so they turn to piracy
if you had no way to provide resources for your family and they were going to starve unless you did something, you would turn to crime, or you are a terrible family man.
@@bakaloid2940then don’t cry when pirates attack the ships
I like the way the Russians respond instead of firing warning shots and being passive
Imagine knowing that the people you call to protect you during an attack are openly sympathetic to your attackers.
At least the makers of this documentary are. Other opinions might have been canceled...
A few well-placed holes in their skiffs would solve the issue rapidly. Giving in or letting them go only makes them more bold.
16:04 - Doing evil deeds is a choice, not an inevitability when life gets hard. Billions around the world work and struggle daily, but honestly, without using their circumstances as an excuse for becoming criminals.
Why are merchant ships not provided with weapons?
good job by the navy keep supporting the pirate
It’s amazing that pirates that are so poor they have to be pirates ,but they can afforded machine guns and weapons that can sink a ship. I have a good paying job and I can’t afford those kinds of weapons !
Those pirates just got 3 million. 100k u can live like a king over there. Wonder y they keep going back n not just retire after 1 ransom 😂
That because you don't live in a region where it's just sold on the street corner.
@@JAlves88 Probably continuing to pay their private militia, since Somalia is full of pirates and militia's, might not be possible to just sit back and retire peacefully
Islam is one big mafia, the money goes back into the terrorism pot
so true! Why don't they start a business after having millions of dollars for a ransom making toothpicks and sell it to America lol... they don't need so much brains to make toothpicks hahaha
Why hold them as prisoners ? Obviously, most effective way to stop piracy is to take no prisoners
Because this isn't the 1600s and human rights exist in the modern era
@@batalorian7997 that's not the kind of talk i want to hear from someone with crosshairs as their pfp. Lol j/k
@@batalorian7997 you mean 1945 so like 70 years ago
@@batalorian7997 actualyl china tho
@@turtleman8968 my reference to 1600 is the golden age of piracy
Awesome work
The thumbnail is excellent. What better Machine Gun to deal with pirates than the MG42/MG3? (Except a Mini Gun but that's a lot of potential for mechanical and electrical failure) Its extremely fast rate of fire ensures the pirates' boats can't zig-zag through the trail of bullets without eating a few every pass.
Why are the ships not armed is beyond me
Probably because that would also require the crew to be either trained in the use of firearms, or the company would have to hire bodyguards. Which is another expenditure. And unfortunately, despite the fact that these corporations probably make billions of dollars every week, they never seem to be willing to shell out the money for a few guys trained in the use of weapons. Despite the fact that I can tell you right now, there are probably hundreds if not thousands of veteran soldiers from various military’s that would be happy to lend their services.
@@ultrajdas a former usn gunners mate I would happily take that job if the opportunity arose.
@@JustTip922 thank you for your service. I myself have no military experience however, in my high school and junior college years I was a competitive shooter. Granted, a dinky little Ruger 22 is a far cry from something like say an A.R. 15 patterned weapon. But I digress. Like you, I would be more than willing to lend my services if the possibility arose. And they wouldn’t even need to pay me a whole lot. Probably just enough for travel costs to get to and from the areas where the ships are. And that’s probably about it.
@@ultrajdyour hands would be shaking so much in a real life or death situation that you'd get absolutely smoked by these pirates.
@@byrde4329 Don’t be so quick to judge
awesome doc. very real, right down to the distrust and sniping between the civilian and military crews. no holds barred
If there's no law about weapons at sea then crew member should all be allowed and even encouraged to have their own rifles and pistols as well as receiving training in them, I know it's not as effective as having professionals do it and may be even more dangerous if caught by the pirates, but they could at least have a chance to shoot at the pirates way before they board if they so wish
Imagine finding guns and equipment ready to use to commit piracy in unsafe waters and being like... "Well, how do you know they were pirates?".
22:40 They should sink the pirates to learn them a lesson. 👊
Insane to both release them AND feed them.
Great interview! I’ve been following Kara and Nate for years and it was really fun to watch
A fighter jet can show up to defeat the Pirates way quicker than a slow moving ship.
No it cant
Yeah no, keeping enough fighters in the air at all times is way too expensive. They need lots of fuel, intense maintenance and bases to operate from.
Need to have C-RAM Phalanx systems tuned to auto-target pirate boats. Piracy would be over with very quickly.
What could possibly go wrong.
man get off call of duty
@@yaya_is_real hahaha ok ;]
bit late to this but yeah, there are so many 'skiffs' and fishing boats already on the water, your "auto-target" idea would be disastrous to the poor old fart just trying to earn his pittance catching fish... All he would be catching instead is a 7.62 mm round to the head. Then he'd end up dead. Ok, time for bed.
@@brothermaleuspraetor9505 100% agree. It was more of a self-burn but Phalanxes are pretty programmable, COD notwithstanding. I mean, a Phalanx augmented with ChatGPT, what could go wrong?
It's all just a landslide of fortune for many parties, and not just the pirates. The land side lawyers, analysts, the insurance companies, the security companies, the list goes on and one. This has become an industry.
not really... sink their boats make them swim back to the mother ship. nobody needs to know what its going out there. like stated above they would kill and rape you for their selfish greed.....
I wouldn't be surprised if the leniency on what constitutes evidence is a building block in that industry. All these different groups wouldn't get paid if there were no pirates, so they have to let them go because there's "no evidence" of piracy.
you forgot the documentaries makers also profit
Seems like an easy problem to solve.
Yeah but that's probably racist so...
Right, you’d think so. If I were younger, I’d think about starting a company to outfit ships to protect them against pirates. One big one that gets me is that there seems to always be a perfect edge for the pirates ladders. Weld on a wide lip so there’s nothing for the ladders to hook onto.
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excellent video journalism. no dramatization and showing all perspectives and different narratives.
The Kenyan issue is corruption. The piracy business made so many Somalis and lawyers very rich. It made property prices go up as well. To this date you can see the Somali businesses thriving around the country of Kenya. They are good business people but what they can't tell you is the sources of their funds. Very crafty about their businesses.
One thing for sure is before being kidnapped fight with all you got or you might get killed anyway!
❤ 32 of us just watched this awesome documentary! We love your channel. Within the first three minutes of watching, however, the majority of our viewers asked the same question: "Why are merchant vessels not armed?" The question was never asked nor answered during the episode. Could you please enlighten us? It seems so very simple, yet governments are allowing its citizens to be taken hostage, mistreated, and often losing millions of dollars worth of cargo.
Glad you enjoyed it! And I don’t know the answer to your question. I think it may be because it would cost extra to have armed security on board. Maybe the shipping companies are just too cheap and would rather take the risk. That’s my guess
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Where my babies
This doc is from 2009. Since then, there has been an industry shift to allow and encourage armed private security. They compares initially were weary to employ private armed force, and it took a while for them to come around. No ship with armed guards has successfully been taken by pirates. Due to an industry shift toward armed security and a change of politics ashore that led to an anti-piracy campaign in Puntland (the region of Somalia where pirates were launching from) there has been no successful attack since 2014.
@@liamclancy4079sounds like they just adapted to pick smaller targets and stay under the radar
good documentary...but too many ads in it -.- that's a real pain
Hmm ... I appreciate that this story explores everyone's perspectives -- at least to some degree ... Thank you for such an explorative documentary
About time to change the laws on piracy to allow all ships to shoot to destroy pirates.
so no pirates are killed? that's why they keep doing it. If you have a million dollars in Somalia, you and a family of 6 can stay alive comfortably for the rest of your life...seriously!
@@billwhite5853 He is saying it's about time to change the laws SO THAT all ships are ABLE to shoot to destroy pirates... = that means every pirate will be killed. Does that make sense to you?
I wonder if there is some sort of colusion between the pyrates and the insurance companies ?
The collusion starts with the EU and its Barcelona declaration
very good report and to know that there is a job market for private security is crazy but needed.
It seems like if you go through the Panama canal you pay a tax. You go through the Suez Canal You pay another tax. You go through the Somali waters and you just slide by if they don't attack your ship. Now they are not pirating the whole deep ocean. What if they gave them some kind of supplies and I'm not talking firearms or anything like that. I'm talking food that the people can use and take back with them they would make the trip out there worth it. Make it a tax fee for using their portion of the ocean. Has anybody paid them for going through their part of the ocean?
Ya know your the first one with a realistic solution...
Kudos....besides target practice....
But still they'll need armed staff as a deterant
Dig a cannall
International waters
How come none of these pirate captains don't share the wealth with their community?
The numbers just dont add up, they get a $3M ransom, sell the cargo, live in one of the poor areas in the world, and they're not so rich they can quit? Just sound shady.
The money from just 1 ransomed ship should make the entire country of Somalia well-off for the next 30 years. Then they can do another one. OR buy a commercial fishing vessel and beat the foreign fishermen at their own game.
I'm wondering the same thing. But, did you see the guns, the boats... I think white people actually get those money back when they buy weapons and munitions. They should actually invests in military scientific knowledge so they don't spent money buying weapons. Instead they should create the munitions.
In the US, our pirate captains don't share. They pay little tax and become billionaires and politicians.
Why do you think Somalia is such a sh*thole to begin with?
man I give praise these tankers and their crew and the ordeal they have to put up with.
Production value is off the charts
Things have changed significantly since this 2016 documentary was released. Piracy in that area was all but put to an end by 2021. In 2022 the UN had let the deadline pass that would have allowed them to continue with a military patrol presence, so we shall see what happens in the future.
You can bet ur (" whatever")************** that they will re-engage.
The UN is a corrupt entity. Once the UN arrives? Hold on to your wallets.
Counter piracy taskforce: pirate hunting : Are you hungry,do you like some sandwiches and maybe an new Gps?What a terrifying taskforce,this wil scare all pirates 😂😢
That first pirate boat would have made good target practice. Practice makes perfect!
I wonder why these seamen are not provided with AK-47 & RPG's. Training is minimal here to operate these arms. But its deterrence is absolute.
In most countries, weapons are not allowed on boats when they’re in port. If I were a boat captain, I’d have a very good place to hide some weapons where they’d never be found.
very informative
Glad it was helpful
although is not actually said, was it the ukranian mothers who facilitated the invovement of a ukranian billionaire ? i kind of have a gut feeling that it was ?
@@ENDEVRDocs
What is the date of this production? Has it been conveniently concealed from the ending credits?
Yes I have watched it before some years back
at least 10 years old, probably 15. As for 'piracy' the content itself is probably pirated! lol
i've seen it before a while back
I'm thinking it's old. Most of the stuff I've read recently indicates piracy in that area is way way down.
On one of the ships I saw an old cathode ray tube computer monitor, so yes at least ten years old if not fifteen or more.
Nato warships: “we can’t do anything even tho a small fisherman skit is filled with man armed to the teeth” “we are not gonna hurt them that is unethical lets just give the our food and water” pirates: “we are probably gonna start slitting throats”
LMAO, IKR? There's DEFINITELY money making going on in Europe over this... "NO! You can't kill the Pirates, we made a deal with their government- oops!, forget that last bit"...
Ah yes....Seaman (Somalian Pirates) vs Viking (Norwegians), what an epic and legendary battle
Not really. People with little to education, food, and training compared to a modernized navy
@@batalorian7997 Dude, it's a joke about how Norwegians were pirates once.
Just need Ninjas (Japanese) with their water walking skills and obviously Jesus.
@@philipthecow really? You think so?
@@philipthecow Oh no it's not 🤣 back to school boy. Best regards from Sweden.
Great work on this
They will say there is no jobs, it`s poverty, blah blah blah. Gangsters, pirates, scammers, prostitutes and the like, will always come up with some weak excuse. For sure crime is not the best way to go. Once your gets known for criminal activities, then kiss goodbye to real investors
are you aware that there actually are no jobs and that they actually are poor and are not just making this up? what do you think is the reason that those pirates are somali and not us american? might it have something to do with the fact that somali is a very poor country?
So why do you think these Somalis become pirates?
Just ridiculous. Not only do they let these pirates go free, they feed and water them and help them get back to so they can rearm and attack another ship. I would rather they been lost at see never to harm anyone ever again.
If you're not shooting to kill then it is a poor deterrence.. If you're not shooting to kill then it is a poor deterrence..
This was a fail....I still have no idea how they get away without being shot by the ship owners. Wait till they get on the ladder and unhook it...what am I missing here.
the norwegian captain lets the pirates go so they can hit another innocent boat later
Great video. I had no idea that pirating vessels is actually encouraged by the west and EU. Thanks for sharing.
Did you even watch the video?
@@ARandomPerson-lg5ih Yes. You should try reading a book or two sometime. Maybe you might learn to recognize sarcasm.
What really threw me off is how they were given food and directions after being let go… 😮
Brand new at the pirate game. Was a great opportunity to teach them that they can absolutely be pirates without consequences.
But the reasons of them being a pirate is starvation
@Antonov-225 plenty of hungry people in the world that don't resort to threats and murder.
They think if they treated the pirates like domesticated dogs they'll be nice back LOL. They should be treated like pests instead.
@@Antonov-225who cares 🎻 enough w sympathising w criminals
Brings back memories from my first Naval deployment in 2009. Counter Piracy off the coast of Somalia and Oil Rig protection in the Persian Gulf.
I can't help but wonder what happens to all those millions paid? The pirates don't look like they're using the money to vastly improve their lives.
prob goes to the insurance companies, to buy more weapons and boats for the pirates lol
The EU probably have a deal with the pirates, thats exactly how the EU operate
Guess who takes most of it?
@@raylevi5343we don’t it maybe the sponsors 😢
I have seen this documentry five years ago when piracy was really a problem but now it's not because of intense patrolling by EU ,US warships in the gulf of Aden so it's an old piece of work
That ship contains military equipment would have been a huge score for the pirates. They might not have even wanted to bother with a ransom. The cargo was good enough and worth tens of millions.
Very interesting document.
The war in the Ukraine is teaching us a lot about the use of drones to attack the Russians. It seems to me using drones on the pirates would work just as well as it does on the Russians. We do not need those multimillion dollar types. We are not trying to destroy tanks. Those wooden boats would react to a grenade much better than a tank would.
Good point
@@emilygooner9697 Do you people think pirates sail around in a ship with a black flag on it? or do you think they put their status as "conducting piracy" on their AIS? the navies patrolling the area have 100 different ways to destroy the pirate ships should they be able to identify them, identifying them is the tricky point since they blend as civilians
Glad both sides of the pirate dilemma were shown, but the film makers should have gone into a little more detail about how the Somali fisheries were forcefully depleted by illegal fishing boats.
This video tries to make Somalia out to be the victim when much was due to their own civil war and poor Governing. Small-scale fishers suffered from the cessation of government support due to the civil war. Unrecognized and unrealistic claims of 200NM Somalian waters were never recognized as legitimate. All this led to illegal fishing within their waters and impacted their ability to provide a legitimate fishing income.
I would love to create a company that provide protection against pirates. Everybody aint afraid to solve the problem.
that already exists in many forms
Exactly
@@ghostbirdlary I know. Thanks for sharing.
For the ship that was hijacked that was carrying all that weaponry ... WHY did no one have the sense to pull out some of that weaponry and defend themselves??? Isn't that one definition of 'wimps'???
It no defination of such!Remember all cargo is packed and sealed and has to be assembled by experts-besides no crew has the right to do such other than transporting the cargo from A to B.
These ships should have their own armed security onboard to protect themselves.
Dad was on a ship near those waters in the mid 60s. If they had attacked, they would have found that there were two .50 cal machine guns on that unarmed ship. And dad, even as an E-9 likely would have been manning one of them as just before going to the ship ( served as the Master at Arms also ) he had taken the Shoulder, Hand, and Base Defense Weapons course of the USAF. Which included the M2 MG.
I’m happy to learn they were released safely but I can’t help to feel the pirates resolve was reinforced only validating piracy as a source of income.
Releasing them leaves what I see as 3 options for the future: (1) They try it again, are unsuccessful and either die or repeat; (2) They successfully take a ship hostage; (3) They quit - which, from what was said in this documentary, is highly unlikely
Releasing them is the worst thing to do. They should be hundreds of feet below the water fertilizing the floor of the sea, but instead they are kept around, presumably because someone found out how to make money off of trade vessels being hijacked without being the ones to hijack it.
@@krawdad4600 thats some good ol fashioned dollars and cents baby
@JustinYiseverywhere Ah yes, defending their lands from all of those hostile cargo vessels!!! Those damned trade ships are the real problem!!
nice video very interesting..