Edge Affair | A Kane & Lynch Series Retrospective

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  • A "brief" video about the Kane and Lynch series. I talk about the development, gameplay, and story for each and how well they hold up.
    Totally could have had this video finished months ago, but life is a pain sometimes. More content coming soon!
    Articles/Videos used:
    Behind the Scenes - Kane & Lynch: Dead Men [Making of]
    • Behind the Scenes - Ka...
    Kane & Lynch: Dead Men (scroll down and can find all the sources)(some cool stuff)
    en.wikipedia.o...
    Kane and Lynch: Dead Men Trailer 2 UNCENSORED
    • Kane and Lynch: Dead M...
    Yes, a Games Writer was Fired Over Review Scores
    kotaku.com/yes...
    Bruce Willis Confirmed To Star In Kane And Lynch Film, Hitman 2 And Just Cause Movies Shaping Up Too
    www.slashfilm....
    Kane & Lynch headed to Hollywood
    www.gamespot.c...
    lynch-headed-to-hollywood/1100-6165857/
    Kane and Lynch 2 Footage: Streets - Live E3 2010
    • Kane and Lynch 2 Foota...
    Kane and Lynch 2: Dog Days E3 2010 Trailer
    • Kane and Lynch 2: Dog ...
    Kane and Lynch 2 Demo - IGN Live E3 2010
    • Kane and Lynch 2 Demo ...
    E3 2010: Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days
    • E3 2010: Kane & Lynch ...
    Behind the Scenes - Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days [Making of]
    • Behind the Scenes - Ka...
    KANE & LYNCH 2: DOG DAYS level designer page
    mazy.net/kane-...
    Player Two: An Interview with Mona Mur (sound design and audio)
    invalidmemory....

ความคิดเห็น • 53

  • @hanayaseth
    @hanayaseth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Any Kane & Lynch video will make me happy for the day.

  • @janetross6107
    @janetross6107 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Im not going to lie I was genuinely surprised that this doesn't have more views. This is a really good quality video with some good commentary, I found it to be pretty engaging and was a little disappointed that there were only 2 games. This series seems like it could have a pretty interesting story using the "bonded through trauma" dynamic. Personally I haven't played the series but I did get a copy from xbox live gold a while back and I think that I might give it a try.

    • @madretro
      @madretro  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the kind comments! I agree that the story could go in more dynamic directions. You should also try out the games. You may enjoy them!

    • @godzillazfriction
      @godzillazfriction 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​​@@madretro'Good & E_iL' is stemmed from a subset of an idea that fixates on trying to give out 'meaning' onto Humanity, when in actuality goes against the very nature of what it means to be 'Human' - and instead forms a set of standards that gets objectified in truth of what a Human is supposed to be as and what it shouldn't be as...
      its simply allegorical and paradoxical by nature of this subset of an idea that has garnered over Human history; primarily in the Modern Era after the 19th or 20th century especially after the WW's...
      edit: 'Morality' as a concept also plays a major role of this, but i kinda forgot to intertwine with what I've elaborated.
      (also labelling a Human as a Devil because that supposed 'Devil' doesn't fit in line for the set of standards to what a Human is supposed to be is, pretty... well thought out.)

    • @godzillazfriction
      @godzillazfriction 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@madretroone last thing,
      this fallacy that re-enacts as a focal point towards a baselined argument that only exemplifies a biased inconvenience of what it apparently does such as 'vIoLeNce for the sake of it, which beguns its 'childishness' is only the detriment to what I've been elaborating since the 1st comment...
      anyone who experiences through a piece of any medium, that garners the most accepted way of perceiving that piece of medium as just 'ViOlEnCe for the sake of it' - can never question, nor analyse or try to gain an outlook on different perspectives to what else it does, and not just 'criticise' it for it being the most popular way to 'criticise' - but also, criticise it because of how it serves the biased inconvenience that lots of Modern Humans have based around the subset of an 'idea' - to which i personally call it the 'Modern Ideological Dogma'... it may seem like that's mumble-jumble and it is because that's how it serves its nature as an 'idea' that tries to give out 'meaning' and forming a set of standards that gets objectified in (perceived) truth.

    • @madretro
      @madretro  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, thanks for the comments! The philosophy of it really is an intriguing topic. I may not have portrayed it well in the video, but I do enjoy the games and story. All of your ideas you brought I understand and agree. Really a thought provoking game once you get past of its weaker moments.

    • @godzillazfriction
      @godzillazfriction 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@madretro no worries... 👺👍

  • @digitalXP13
    @digitalXP13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This game is a stone cold classic!!! We need more but in this modern era never going to happen

    • @Moe_Lester_fromUptwn
      @Moe_Lester_fromUptwn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah. It's fortnite/cod etc chief...

    • @digitalXP13
      @digitalXP13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn you brainwashed as a live service addict

  • @Vub.
    @Vub. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I loved the first kane and lynch. The tone, the gameplay, all of it.

  • @kakadu2004
    @kakadu2004 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I will forever adore this game because it got me sooo invested in the story. I love the characters and the depravity. It was like playing through a movie. The only thing I played before it that gave me such a feeling was Max Payne.

  • @evenstevensteven
    @evenstevensteven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I would definitely say that I don't "like" this franchise, but I'm most certainly glad that it exists. The second game especially is really important to me and I think it makes sense to me in a way nobody else would understand. I'm glad this series got attention in the recent times. good video, my dude. Hope you get more subs :)

    • @madretro
      @madretro  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I appreciate the comment and sentiment! Means a ton!

  • @Moe_Lester_fromUptwn
    @Moe_Lester_fromUptwn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jesper's Hitman Contracts theme is so good. Honestly all I remember him for, not to undermine his other works.
    ed/ Thanks for this. nostalgic

    • @madretro
      @madretro  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      His music is fantastic and thanks for watching!

    • @MerlautJones
      @MerlautJones หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yesss, I love the ost for Hitman Contracts. I rly like K&L Dead Men's as well. I wish IO would've hired Jesper for Dog Days & Hitman Absolution.

  • @Mreredrain
    @Mreredrain 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I want to see more of Kane & Lynch. Loved the series

  • @joshboy64
    @joshboy64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You got me at a really interesting crossroads, K&L has been a curio for me and out of nowhere I've seen videos on the series in my recs. Just starting with a Heat reference already has me hooked! But of all the videos I've seen, you're the only one that talked passionately about the story and even gave more history! You earned a sub on my end!

    • @madretro
      @madretro  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really appreciate it! I'm glad someone enjoys the heat reference and enjoys delving into the history and story as much as I do. Hope you stick around :)

  • @BennyTheBuff
    @BennyTheBuff หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the beginning, excellent work man!

    • @madretro
      @madretro  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a ton!

  • @battlefieldnerd1002
    @battlefieldnerd1002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This review of the KANE & LYNCH franchise is so underrated
    I have seen all of the K&L reviews and I feel like it needs more similar to SPEC OPS: THE LINE
    I am glad to see someone still disecting this franchise
    Hearing "The Truth Revealed" on the video's credits really gave me goosebumps

    • @madretro
      @madretro  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really appreciate the kind comments! Also glad you liked the ending credits :)

  • @fillonides5384
    @fillonides5384 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video! Btw if you play as Lynch you see civilians as cops and enter some sort of a rage mode after 3 melee kills, cool details

    • @madretro
      @madretro  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah! Forgot about that detail. It is pretty neat!

  • @GameTalesHQ
    @GameTalesHQ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Allright i just watched 2 videos of you in a row, that's worth a sub. I haven't played these games but i loooove the way the second one looks. It has that Max Payne 3 feel. And i kinda like the edgy/against the grain kinda stuff. Since we don't see that much in gaming. It's all very PG nowadays. I might check these games out sometime, thanks for the video:)

  • @Cheesecake_666
    @Cheesecake_666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact: the characters ending is hidden in Hitman absolution, Lynch is in the bar outisde of Hope and is part of the bar brawl and kane is actaully in Hope in one of the cells inder rhe courthouse writing his last letter to his daughter.
    Also if you trigger the nuke easter egg later in the game a cutscene outside of the explosion Lynch is shown free, so the hidden story in that Kane busted Lynch out of prison and ran off.

    • @MikeWooshy
      @MikeWooshy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      47 Has the chance to take Lynch down at the gun club when he goes to get his Ballers back.

    • @madretro
      @madretro  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Both of you are correct lol. Controversial opinion, but I quite enjoy hitman absolution. One of my faves in the series.

  • @Xwisewolf499
    @Xwisewolf499 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Legendary 😎 I appreciate this dude 🙏

  • @MerlautJones
    @MerlautJones หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I so long for a third Kane & Lynch. I like these games more for the titular scumbags than anything. Dead Men's story is a favorite of mine. I love crime dramas. Gameplay was the main issue for me with both games. Dead Men should've had more time in the oven. Dog Days played better, but it was very run of the mill by 2010. Army of Two was better in that regard.

  • @blackLodgeskateboards
    @blackLodgeskateboards 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First game in my opinion a masterpiece, part 2 not so much, it felt like a claustrophobic corridor shooter though it was well acted and gritty.

  • @hunteriii8253
    @hunteriii8253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SPOILER WARNING
    I know this game is mostly hated, but I remember being a kid playing it teally having a fun time. I understood as a kid the uniqueness of it. These guys are not heroes or even anti heroes. They are the bad guys and the guys you fight against are worse. It takes elements from Heat and Collateral. I think what really puts people off is that Kane has little to no redeemable qualities. Perhaps the only good quality he has is he is that he knows no matter if he does return the briefcases he will still be killed, but wants to get them back to save his wife and Jenny. I always wondered if Kane actually betrayed The 7 before the events of the game. Personally I think he did because if you listen to Kane at the end he says something like I don’t leave people to burn, not anymore. Lynch is a unique character because he has schizophrenia and is extremely violent. It’s never definitively proven if Lynch murdered his own wife, but surely the police would have conducted an investigation and found DNA evidence linking Lynch. You could argue he was framed, but who would have wanted to frame Lynch. While not a classic it is definitely a unique story.

  • @emmanuelguerrero8886
    @emmanuelguerrero8886 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really wanna watch this video but I’m about to play the games tomorrow and I already had so much of these 2 games spoiled for me already 😅

    • @madretro
      @madretro  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go play them first!

  • @smirky101
    @smirky101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Call me a sap, but i always felt bad when (Spoiler) Lynch kills yoko. Yeah they set her up as a villain but it's still a tied up woman and it looks like they beat her up too, and then he kinda just shoots her like a nutcase. As a player you feel responsible. At least when kane's wife gets capped it was the bad guys that did it, not the heroes of the story.

    • @madretro
      @madretro  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It definitely does suck when it happens. Though honestly, Kane and lynch are as horrible as the rest. There are really no heroes in the story.

    • @smirky101
      @smirky101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@madretro yes i agree. I think this was just my first taste of something that traumatic, this was years before i played trevor in gta 5, or the mass murders of spec ops: the line and call of duty. I should have said protagonists, not good guys.

    • @madretro
      @madretro  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, no worries! It definitely makes them very compelling characters!

    • @jenspeterkurup
      @jenspeterkurup 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Weakest hack in the game😊

    • @madretro
      @madretro  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@jenspeterkurup okay I need to know what you mean by this 😅

  • @Aliv3ToDi3
    @Aliv3ToDi3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:45 does anyone know the name of the song in the background

    • @madretro
      @madretro  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Marathon Infinity Theme

  • @Marksman_12
    @Marksman_12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:41 What does going gold mean? I never quite understood it.

    • @madretro
      @madretro  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Going gold means that it has reached the point where the game is done being developed and is ready for release. It is an odd little term honestly 😅

    • @Marksman_12
      @Marksman_12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now I am no game developer and I do understand that game development is not linear but they had a chance. A few more days and maybe annoying features could've been removed.

    • @mandu6665
      @mandu6665 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Way back when games were finished, they were often first copied onto a "master" CD-ROM which was often gold in color. Kind of like how vinyl is pressed.

    • @Marksman_12
      @Marksman_12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe not annoying but some that held back the game.

    • @Marksman_12
      @Marksman_12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mandu6665 Thanks.