@@DemonKing1515 As a Pats fan I find this whole conversion offense and demand you stop discussing this topic immediately or I will report you for hate crimes!
@lilloc2094 I think they did ok. It's too early to tell for both. Honestly it's always a crap shoot my friend. Anything before the season is just speculation. I was ok with Atlanta's draft. Wasn't bothered in the least by the Penix pick either.
I think Bryce Youmg could have a renaissance season. He has a coach who's willing to work with him and develop him. Unlike the last head coach who didn't want to draft him. If Carolina can pick up another RB to solidify the running game a bit more, the Panthers could sneak up on Tampa Bay and Atlanta in the division.
Tampa might not win a Superbowl but they're still a playoff team. They have most of there players back and did well in the draft. They can win the NFC South again or get a wild card spot
If this was on ESPN, once someone gave the best case scenario, 4 screaming heads would be yelling about how stupid it is. This is great! ESPN is unwatchable.
Thank you Rich I appreciate the love Tampa seems to be getting put in the bottom tier again after they were last year and managed to win the division 4x in a row with an 80 million dead cap hit. The disrespect is crazy but not surprising people barely know anything about the roster.
As a Falcons fan, I love the enthusiasm from Rich. But after so many disappointing seasons, I don’t know if I’ll ever see the Falcons win a Super Bowl. I hate being that pessimistic.
I believe that a (finally) somewhat healthy Saints team went to Tampa and slapped them around. Saints win the division if they stay healthy, thats a spoiler
The Colts didn't win 13 games in Peyton's rookie year. They went 3-13 in 1997 to earn the first overall pick in the 98 draft which they used on Peyton. In his rookie season, they went 3-13 to earn the 4th overall pick in the 99 draft which they used on Edgerrin James. In his second season, they improved to 13-3.
@@saintsfan39475It is, but that isn't the information which I was correcting. Rich said that after the Colts drafted Peyton, they improved by 10 games which isn't the case. It was in his second season.
@@farakhhanifyep, he acted like getting Payton alone made a 10 win turn around when it did nothing. They needed more pieces liked Edge and one year of development for Payton to turn it around.
@@mitchw4374 Getting Peyton Manning dId NoThInG. Um someone doesn’t understand drafting. It absolutely did do something. It allowed them to not draft a QB so they could build around Peyton. I know what you are going to reply with but that’s just inaccurate, bc if the majority of those pieces weren’t already there, then they wouldn’t have had a ten win turnaround.
@@lynnerose7891 My point was it did nothing for that specific season because they were 3-13 the year before Payton came. The show tried to make it seem just drafting Payton alone made a 10 win turn around when it was a lie, it was a 0 win turn around. There were many things that lead to it,. I agree getting Payton was the most important piece, but he needed time to develop and add more pieces before they could turn it around.
The easy/lazy media "Panthers are worst at everything," I get it lowest amount of effort is required. When they play well and win games (since their situation is soooooo terrible) Calanles gets COY right?
Considering the team is investing in renovating the stadium, and an MLS team was just recently founded by the same owner... they aren't going anywhere soon
@@stylisticdavenope, let them walk. Love the team but if anyone doesn’t deserve more tax money it is the guy that just screwed over the city of Rock Hill on the practice facility they footed over a ton of tax money to build.
BS. They all pick Tampa and their reasoning is literally "they resigned the same guys they had last year, and that makes them even better" LOL great logic
@@trentrez6643 "They" haven't picked Tampa outside of the Brady years. The team and it's players are consistently overlooked, even when they are very good. It's more prevalent this year though considering their recent track record.
If the Falcons win a SB in NOLA it would be perfect. All those Who Dats will have to watch these Dirty Birds party non-stop for days, weeks, months, and many many years!!!! It’ll be glorious.
As a panther psl owner since 99... i just wanna see a big step forward. I don't have delusions of winning the south or the superbowl in 2024.... crawl, walk, then run. We aren't ready to run... yet This division should (anything can happen) go through the Bucs. The bucs are a much better team than people give them credit for, and Baker's attitude is a perfect fit for that team. It should be a much more fun season than last
Man as a Saints fan I’m just being 💯 here but I see little difference at this point between the Bucs, the Falcons, and the Saints. Falcons have a head coach that has failed in the past, an offensive coordinator that has never called plays in the NFL, and a slightly above average aging QB coming off an Achilles injury. Not saying the stars won’t align and they won’t be great, but theres too many unanswered questions here to call this season for the Falcons, and the Bucs? Heh… the Bucs won the division last season, but they were not the best team in the NFC South by almost any statistical metric. It will be between the Saints, the Bucs, or the Falcons, but I don’t see a clear winner here.
Yeah, Morris was a head coach years ago. You don't think he learned anything in that time? He's also been a part of two Super Bowl teams. As for the OC never calling plays in the NFL.....it is well known that Sean McVay lets his OC's call plays in the pre-season. Guess how McVay's last OC did when he was with the Rams? They won a Super Bowl. Kirk is a slightly above average quarterback?? NOTHING in Kirk's past performance backs that up AT ALL!! #1 his win-loss record certainly isn't mediocre. #2 in his last full season in 2022, his peers voted him as the 6th best quarterback in the NFL (NFL top 100 in 2023) #3 And he was playing like a top 10 quarterback in 2022. #4 Mediocre quarterbacks don't lead their team to the greatest comeback in NFL history. (33 points) #5 Mediocre quarterbacks also don't lead their team to a 13-4 season with a 28th ranked run game and a 31st ranked defense. #6 Mediocre quarterbacks ALSO don’t lead the league in game winning drives (eight) and 4th quarter comebacks (eight) which is tied with Stafford’s record. #7 In 2023, before he got hurt, he was tied for 1st in touchdowns, 1st in pass attempts, 1st in pass completions, 2nd in passing yards, 3rd in QB rating, and 5th in completion percentage.....that is a top 5 quarterback, btw. #8 Kirk’s career passer rating is 98.2. which is the 8th highest passer rating in NFL history…..in NFL history. He’s 5th all-time in completion percentage. His passing yards per game also ranks 10th all-time in the history of the NFL. #9 As far as Kirk’s injury goes, he does all of the same health things as Brady does. He’s aging like a fine wine. Garbage take!!
@@Paula-mv8im he learned how to lose. How many games under 500 is he? Looks like he brought that to Atlanta for you guys. Everything I said is true except 1 thing. I’m changing my prediction. This division is a two horse race. Bucs or Saints. I don’t think the Falcons are even going to enter the conversation this season.
To be honest. Anyone of Falcons, Saints & Bucs can make the NFC championship this year. If they on their game and make the playoffs. I’m a falcon fan and I believe falcons have the best team in the division and have the best chance to do it. But I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the other 2 win the division
@@Paula-mv8imWhat part of best case do you not understand? I pick the Falcons to win the division after their recent additions on defense. Sainst will have a top 5 defense, though.
Falcons have a real shot to explode With cousins with so many weapons with cousins definitely playoffs bound witg that underrated Defense also. Also Tampa looks to be good saints we will see. Panthers bottom of the division but improvements seen
As a Bucs fan, if the Falcons had signed Belichick, I would be worried. Very worried. However, I'm not even concerned about a team with Raheem Morris at the helm. I've seen that movie before, close up. I know how that story will end.
Are you talking about when he coached y’all’s team 13-14 years ago? Dude was like 30 years old. You’re telling me he hasn’t learned from Sean Mcvay and gotten a ring under him. Come on man be hopeful. Well actually never mind you’re a bucs fan so get ready to come in second in the division to my ATL Falcon
Atlanta also has the far better quarterback and it's not even close. Mayfield is gonna turn back into a pumpkin without Canales. And to expect Mayfield to all of a sudden be consistent two years in a row after 7 years in the league is delusional.
FINALLY some respect for my Bucs! 3 Straight Division Championships and ppl throw us to the side! The Falcons take is WILD though. New coach, New QB off an Achilles, underperforming TE, on a team that's never won the big one and they're potential SB champs 😂
And in two of those division championships you had Brady. Mayfield is an inconsistent below mid quarterback. The last season, the Bucs barely had a winning record and had the same record as the Saints so it wasn't like the team was a powerhouse.
They had the worst offensive scheme/coaches in the NFL and still managed to get 9-8 with only their talent and defense and mind you they have arguably the best defensive play caller in the league in Dennis Allen, they added Klint Kubiak as OC with a new scheme that caters to the saints talent just hearing how the saints players talk about the new offense tells you all you need to know about last years offense, There’s no way they don’t win their division atleast.
They had the "easiest" on paper before the season started but games like the texans and bucs were considered givens (even the media claimed the bucs were in the running for the 1st overall). Overall they had 6 games against playoffs teams and two games against teams that were in wildcard contention (jaguars and colts, in fact the colts were a possesion away from winning the division). They still managed to get 9 wins with the worst offensive coordinator in the league and were a missed fg away from the playoffs (they were up 17-0 on green Bay before carr got Injuried and winston couldnt get a 1st down for 2 qrts). Its ok if you dont watch saints games but Claiming they are in contention for the 1st overall is straight up dumb
@@lelouchx8996 They can drop all those games and still win their division games and make the playoffs, they ended their season with their shitty offensive scheme still killing Atlanta and beating Tampa. The fact is they have the talent to by far compete with those teams you listed on both sides of the ball, just comes down to their coaching, their defensive coaching is excellent, if klint can get his offense right there is no way the saints can’t compete with those teams across the board.
Im a Saints fan and im suposwd yo hate the other teamd but, i like them and like seeing them succeed and I ALWAYS find myself endings up a fan of the under dogs.
Arthur Smith and Desmond Ridder are gone from the Falcons. They've hit rock bottom long enough. Next season might be their breakout year. If the Falcons win the Superbowl with Cousins, it'll almost be like Stafford winning one with the Rams.
The entire national sports media world is sleeping on the Bucs... except Rich Eisen. They have a fantastic core of players, Licht trimmed off a bunch of fat in the off season and had a great draft. Hopefully, last years issues have been solved. I wanted a punishing RB like Henry, but the Irving kid looks legit. We'll see. Should be a fun season.
I think baker takes another step back now that canales has left. Unfortunately because i do wish baker the best, but i think a lot of that success was the duo of baker and dave.
I hope so I'm not impressed with DA or DC but I got their backs. If I was on the team I'd be optimistic to the media. But I'm not so I can speak my mind, Derek Carr is not better than Andy Dalton Jameis or Taysom. Dennis Allen is not head coach material. Prove me wrong go win the division.
It was Saints and Bucs battling for the top spot last season, and Saints actually routed TB in week 17. TB and Falcons will battle for 2nd in the division, and that's assuming Falcons don't end up going on a losing streak to open the season while Cousins gets used to his new team. Saints will win the division. There's potential for a 3 way race, if everything goes right for TB and ATL. It's absolutely insane the Rich here would claim that TB and ATL both have SB aspirations, yet wouldn't do the same for the Saints, who not only had a better record than one of those teams, but also managed to blow out both of those teams to end the season. Make it make Sense 😂
As a Panthers fan. YES!!! 7 wins (improvement) sounds feasible. I do not believe we will make the playoffs, however this year we can throw punches back… God willing.
Kirk is the best quarterback in the NFC South and it's not even close. He was also the best quarterback in the NFC North. Kirk didn’t play for half of a season and STILL had a better QBR than Goff, Love, Mayfield and even Mahomes. Had he not gotten hurt, the Vikings would for sure have won the division.
KC isn't repeating. Only reason they beat the Ravens is Lamar couldn't hit ANYBODY. Was so bad I wondered if he threw the game. and SF was the better team but had some really bad luck. LOL
I just about puked in my mouth when he said he thought Tampa could win the SB. Even best case scenario, you're smoking crack! I love Rich, but this take was just fucking delusional!!!
Yea i can see baker leading the bucs to the superbowl, dude is just a winner. He balled out last year won another playoff game and probowl mvp. So i can see it. Wouldnt bet alot of money on it though.
Mayfield is not a winner. He is inconsistent so to expect him to suddenly be consistent after 7 years in the league is very unrealistic. And the only reason that he was even in the Pro Bowl was that Kirk Cousins got hurt.
@@Paula-mv8im yet baker was top 10 in yards and tds, won the division, won another playoff game, his 2nd in 4 years.. he has more playoff wins than all the starters in the nfc south combined.
Not happening so I guess we'll be okay lol Saints aren't world beaters but legitimately have at LEAST as good a shot at making the big game as a host as those two have of making it.
Bucs and falcons can win the superbowl but new orleans cant when new orleans destroyed both back to back to end last season? They are the Most talented team in the division or at least theyre in the same level. Last season they had the worst oc in the league and still got 9 wins (wouldve been 10 with a division championship if carr didnt get Injuried against green Bay when they were up 17-0 and winston couldnt get a 1st down to save his life)
Everything you said is correct except the being the most talented team bucs and falcons are moe talented maybe not by wide margin but still are saints roster kinda old
Rich said “I think the best case for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is winning the Super Bowl” and then it immediately cut to the Deadpool x Wolverine Heineken ad where it starts with Deadpool saying “whoa whoa whoa whoa” 😂
I was excited about this segment when I saw last episode. But if you can put TWO NFC SOUTH teams in the category of “Super Bowl”. Then I can’t take the rest of your opinions seriously
Omg, did somebody actually give the Buccaneers.... respect??
Rich Eisen is my man
I subscribed immediately
He's a Baker fan! And has been from the beginning
Go 4 the Bowl! BAKERNEERS!!!!
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@@diredenYes, but his analysis is legit for best case scenario. we're built enough for a deep playoff run and possibly SB
Great segment for the offseason. It's basically the ultimate fan service.
Love the optimism and positivity ... delusional but refreshing.
As a Bucs fan he’s absolutely being delusional I love it though lol
It’s “best case scenario” not “I think this is what’s gonna happen”
@@Cheeks730you ain’t a bucs fan
i agree definitely 💯 delusional!
Tampa Bay goto Super Bowl….. 💯 delusional.
@@xHeLLzHe's more like a realist who knows better lol
This segment is UNHINGED and i love it
The NFC South best case scenario segment is absolutely on point for each team. Awesome work and ideas! Go BUCS!
He’ll no the bucs got worse
far from it
Go Bucs!!
It isn't only the Colts that have ever jumped by ten wins. Miami went 1-15 in 2007 and jumped to 11-5 in 2008, winning the division. The wildcat year.
Which also made the Patriots the first 11-5 team in history to miss the playoffs
@@DemonKing1515 As a Pats fan I find this whole conversion offense and demand you stop discussing this topic immediately or I will report you for hate crimes!
As a falcons fan, I'd love this! But damn... don't get my hopes up 😂
What do u think about the saints?
@lilloc2094 what about em... as a falcons fan I despise them but don't ever under estimate them
@vb72517 u think they got good draft picks this year tho? And how do u think the Falcons did on their picks
@lilloc2094 I think they did ok. It's too early to tell for both. Honestly it's always a crap shoot my friend. Anything before the season is just speculation. I was ok with Atlanta's draft. Wasn't bothered in the least by the Penix pick either.
@vb72517 I don't blame u you guys got an Elite Kurt cousins to
It's very nice to see the optimism. Great new segment Rich!
I think Bryce Youmg could have a renaissance season. He has a coach who's willing to work with him and develop him. Unlike the last head coach who didn't want to draft him. If Carolina can pick up another RB to solidify the running game a bit more, the Panthers could sneak up on Tampa Bay and Atlanta in the division.
Tampa might not win a Superbowl but they're still a playoff team. They have most of there players back and did well in the draft. They can win the NFC South again or get a wild card spot
They're a playoff team for the mere fact that they're in the worst division in the NFL lol
@@trogdor20X6 Cold take.
@@gpking-54 facts
You have to win the division in the NFC South to make the playoffs.
Atlanta sweeps everyone in the nfc south this year
I love this segment!
I don't think half of it will happen, but I appreciate the positivity, lol.
I love this segment. It’s awesome. I wish more shows did positive things like this
If this was on ESPN, once someone gave the best case scenario, 4 screaming heads would be yelling about how stupid it is. This is great! ESPN is unwatchable.
He spoke my falcons up ‼️🤏🏽
I want EVERYTHING predicted for my Falcons in this segment to come TRUE!!
Thank you Rich I appreciate the love Tampa seems to be getting put in the bottom tier again after they were last year and managed to win the division 4x in a row with an 80 million dead cap hit. The disrespect is crazy but not surprising people barely know anything about the roster.
Might be my favorite segment ever.
Your NFC South predicting is like your Jets predictions......clueless😂..
Love the show, would like to hear more from TJ❤
Please keep overlooking the Saints.
😴
We will 😂.
@@christophermillett2273 Yep, Dennis Allen 26-46
Love it, Rich. Atl winning the SB in Nawlins is a good one!
Great take on the bucs and panthets
Got a little excited there at the end 😂
That's what she said.
Bucs in the SB!!! Yes!!
As a Falcons fan, I love the enthusiasm from Rich. But after so many disappointing seasons, I don’t know if I’ll ever see the Falcons win a Super Bowl. I hate being that pessimistic.
Bucs.. I believe!
I believe that a (finally) somewhat healthy Saints team went to Tampa and slapped them around. Saints win the division if they stay healthy, thats a spoiler
The Colts didn't win 13 games in Peyton's rookie year. They went 3-13 in 1997 to earn the first overall pick in the 98 draft which they used on Peyton. In his rookie season, they went 3-13 to earn the 4th overall pick in the 99 draft which they used on Edgerrin James. In his second season, they improved to 13-3.
Soooo, isn't that a 10 win differential?
@@saintsfan39475It is, but that isn't the information which I was correcting. Rich said that after the Colts drafted Peyton, they improved by 10 games which isn't the case. It was in his second season.
@@farakhhanifyep, he acted like getting Payton alone made a 10 win turn around when it did nothing. They needed more pieces liked Edge and one year of development for Payton to turn it around.
@@mitchw4374
Getting Peyton Manning dId NoThInG.
Um someone doesn’t understand drafting. It absolutely did do something. It allowed them to not draft a QB so they could build around Peyton.
I know what you are going to reply with but that’s just inaccurate, bc if the majority of those pieces weren’t already there, then they wouldn’t have had a ten win turnaround.
@@lynnerose7891 My point was it did nothing for that specific season because they were 3-13 the year before Payton came. The show tried to make it seem just drafting Payton alone made a 10 win turn around when it was a lie, it was a 0 win turn around. There were many things that lead to it,. I agree getting Payton was the most important piece, but he needed time to develop and add more pieces before they could turn it around.
do worst case scenarios for teams
The easy/lazy media "Panthers are worst at everything," I get it lowest amount of effort is required. When they play well and win games (since their situation is soooooo terrible) Calanles gets COY right?
Canales would definitely have earned it…
Now, will the city of Charlotte pony up $800M to keep the Panthers there?
Considering the team is investing in renovating the stadium, and an MLS team was just recently founded by the same owner... they aren't going anywhere soon
@@stylisticdavenope, let them walk. Love the team but if anyone doesn’t deserve more tax money it is the guy that just screwed over the city of Rock Hill on the practice facility they footed over a ton of tax money to build.
@@FreefallSC...rockhill didn't pay the bill wtf are you talking about.
@OvertPumkin which is why rock hill was sued.
I love this best case scenario 😊 keep it up 💪🏾💪🏾
RIP Bill Walton
This segment is a great way to honor him
Rich is one of the only analysts in the mainstream media that believes in the Bucs, and I'm here for it.
lol just remember he picked the Raiders to win it all couple years ago
@@mythrapi73 that's like Bruno, and fight club, we don't talk about it 🤣
BS. They all pick Tampa and their reasoning is literally "they resigned the same guys they had last year, and that makes them even better" LOL great logic
@@trentrez6643 "They" haven't picked Tampa outside of the Brady years. The team and it's players are consistently overlooked, even when they are very good. It's more prevalent this year though considering their recent track record.
YES!!!
He’s on point- best case and very likely
Thats some tasty hopium Rich! thanks
So Carr is the 3rd, 4th best in the division? Let’s see how it actually plays out.
God bless all! Christ loves yall ✝️🤍
If the falcons did that I mite cry.
Allgeier player of the year!
Go Saints .
Best case scenario for the Falcons is they win the superbowl in their rivals (the Aints) stadium… like the Chiefs did to the Raiders in Las Vegas
The Buccaneers have been under rated. We have Rachaad White and Bucky Irving. The Bucs are going to run the ball too.
i really hope God makes Atlanta Falcons’ best case scenario come to past. 🙏🏾
Ask Santa clause too 😂😂.
These are crazy Rich lol
I got the falcons going to the superbowl and wining it back to back
If the Falcons win a SB in NOLA it would be perfect. All those Who Dats will have to watch these Dirty Birds party non-stop for days, weeks, months, and many many years!!!! It’ll be glorious.
I'm a panthers fan... if you guys had to win a superbowl, that scenario would make me happy too
Bruh, I'd personally take a Peachtree sign to New Orleans and turn Bourbon St into Peachtree St
Tampa getting love? I'm so happy
Falcons looking dangerous With Kirk cousins
That’s a lot more optimistic than I thought you would be about the panthers 😂😂
As a panther psl owner since 99... i just wanna see a big step forward. I don't have delusions of winning the south or the superbowl in 2024.... crawl, walk, then run. We aren't ready to run... yet
This division should (anything can happen) go through the Bucs. The bucs are a much better team than people give them credit for, and Baker's attitude is a perfect fit for that team. It should be a much more fun season than last
Man as a Saints fan I’m just being 💯 here but I see little difference at this point between the Bucs, the Falcons, and the Saints. Falcons have a head coach that has failed in the past, an offensive coordinator that has never called plays in the NFL, and a slightly above average aging QB coming off an Achilles injury. Not saying the stars won’t align and they won’t be great, but theres too many unanswered questions here to call this season for the Falcons, and the Bucs? Heh… the Bucs won the division last season, but they were not the best team in the NFC South by almost any statistical metric. It will be between the Saints, the Bucs, or the Falcons, but I don’t see a clear winner here.
falcons fan here and i totally agree it’s going to be a very close battle between the bucs, falcons, and saints
Yeah, Morris was a head coach years ago. You don't think he learned anything in that time? He's also been a part of two Super Bowl teams.
As for the OC never calling plays in the NFL.....it is well known that Sean McVay lets his OC's call plays in the pre-season. Guess how McVay's last OC did when he was with the Rams? They won a Super Bowl.
Kirk is a slightly above average quarterback?? NOTHING in Kirk's past performance backs that up AT ALL!!
#1 his win-loss record certainly isn't mediocre.
#2 in his last full season in 2022, his peers voted him as the 6th best quarterback in the NFL (NFL top 100 in 2023)
#3 And he was playing like a top 10 quarterback in 2022.
#4 Mediocre quarterbacks don't lead their team to the greatest comeback in NFL history. (33 points)
#5 Mediocre quarterbacks also don't lead their team to a 13-4 season with a 28th ranked run game and a 31st ranked defense.
#6 Mediocre quarterbacks ALSO don’t lead the league in game winning drives (eight) and 4th quarter comebacks (eight) which is tied with Stafford’s record.
#7 In 2023, before he got hurt, he was tied for 1st in touchdowns, 1st in pass attempts, 1st in pass completions, 2nd in passing yards, 3rd in QB rating, and 5th in completion percentage.....that is a top 5 quarterback, btw.
#8 Kirk’s career passer rating is 98.2. which is the 8th highest passer rating in NFL history…..in NFL history. He’s 5th all-time in completion percentage. His passing yards per game also ranks 10th all-time in the history of the NFL.
#9 As far as Kirk’s injury goes, he does all of the same health things as Brady does. He’s aging like a fine wine. Garbage take!!
@@Paula-mv8im he learned how to lose. How many games under 500 is he? Looks like he brought that to Atlanta for you guys. Everything I said is true except 1 thing. I’m changing my prediction. This division is a two horse race. Bucs or Saints. I don’t think the Falcons are even going to enter the conversation this season.
Peyton Manning WAS the qb for the 3-13 season. 26 TD passes, 28 INT.
SB win in New Orleans I love it.
Saints best case is NFC title game, but it's unlikely due only to offensive line issues.
And refs...oops
To be honest. Anyone of Falcons, Saints & Bucs can make the NFC championship this year. If they on their game and make the playoffs. I’m a falcon fan and I believe falcons have the best team in the division and have the best chance to do it. But I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the other 2 win the division
@@SenorJuan2023 The team with the best quarterback is gonna win the division. That is Kirk Cousins and it's not even close.
@@Paula-mv8imWhat part of best case do you not understand? I pick the Falcons to win the division after their recent additions on defense. Sainst will have a top 5 defense, though.
@@Paula-mv8im This aged poorly
Wow this dude is nuts
This was fun…
Falcons have a real shot to explode With cousins with so many weapons with cousins definitely playoffs bound witg that underrated Defense also.
Also Tampa looks to be good saints we will see. Panthers bottom of the division but improvements seen
I would think winning the Super Bowl would be every team’s best case scenario.
The Falcons one seems a little agregious, but I like the positivity
Love the show. Only question is if 20/32 teams best case scenario is winning the Superbowl, then what really is the point of the segment?? 😂
As a Bucs fan, if the Falcons had signed Belichick, I would be worried. Very worried. However, I'm not even concerned about a team with Raheem Morris at the helm. I've seen that movie before, close up. I know how that story will end.
Are you talking about when he coached y’all’s team 13-14 years ago? Dude was like 30 years old. You’re telling me he hasn’t learned from Sean Mcvay and gotten a ring under him. Come on man be hopeful. Well actually never mind you’re a bucs fan so get ready to come in second in the division to my ATL Falcon
@@johnulrich8470 😅😂
Atlanta also has the far better quarterback and it's not even close. Mayfield is gonna turn back into a pumpkin without Canales. And to expect Mayfield to all of a sudden be consistent two years in a row after 7 years in the league is delusional.
FINALLY some respect for my Bucs! 3 Straight Division Championships and ppl throw us to the side!
The Falcons take is WILD though. New coach, New QB off an Achilles, underperforming TE, on a team that's never won the big one and they're potential SB champs 😂
And in two of those division championships you had Brady. Mayfield is an inconsistent below mid quarterback. The last season, the Bucs barely had a winning record and had the same record as the Saints so it wasn't like the team was a powerhouse.
@@Paula-mv8im Frame it however you want to - 3 straight NFC South Division Championships are in the record books.
Saints had the EASIEST schedule in the league last year and went 9-8 fam they in the running this year for the #1 pick of the 2025 draft
They had the worst offensive scheme/coaches in the NFL and still managed to get 9-8 with only their talent and defense and mind you they have arguably the best defensive play caller in the league in Dennis Allen, they added Klint Kubiak as OC with a new scheme that caters to the saints talent just hearing how the saints players talk about the new offense tells you all you need to know about last years offense, There’s no way they don’t win their division atleast.
@@DMkizzy mind you they DIDNT play Kansas city, Buffalo, Dallas, San Fran, Philly, Ravens or Miami so please miss me with the excuses
They had the "easiest" on paper before the season started but games like the texans and bucs were considered givens (even the media claimed the bucs were in the running for the 1st overall).
Overall they had 6 games against playoffs teams and two games against teams that were in wildcard contention (jaguars and colts, in fact the colts were a possesion away from winning the division).
They still managed to get 9 wins with the worst offensive coordinator in the league and were a missed fg away from the playoffs (they were up 17-0 on green Bay before carr got Injuried and winston couldnt get a 1st down for 2 qrts).
Its ok if you dont watch saints games but Claiming they are in contention for the 1st overall is straight up dumb
@@lelouchx8996 They can drop all those games and still win their division games and make the playoffs, they ended their season with their shitty offensive scheme still killing Atlanta and beating Tampa. The fact is they have the talent to by far compete with those teams you listed on both sides of the ball, just comes down to their coaching, their defensive coaching is excellent, if klint can get his offense right there is no way the saints can’t compete with those teams across the board.
Every team in the division had easy schedules. Saints strong everywhere except oline. Do you even watch football?
Rich are you a closet bucs fan? I love you talking my bucs! Thanks!
Falcons!!!! 💯
Im a Saints fan and im suposwd yo hate the other teamd but, i like them and like seeing them succeed and I ALWAYS find myself endings up a fan of the under dogs.
Atlanta is going to take the NFC South
Rich thanks for not shitting on the Falcons
SuperBowl segment over😂
What happens if the Bucs consistently make it to the playoffs and win at least a wild card game? Do the bucs keep bringing it back?
The Falcons win the SB in NOLA 24-3..Then the team turns around and moons the city.
Most teams record will change by plus or minus four games year over year.
Arthur Smith and Desmond Ridder are gone from the Falcons. They've hit rock bottom long enough. Next season might be their breakout year. If the Falcons win the Superbowl with Cousins, it'll almost be like Stafford winning one with the Rams.
As a Panthers fan, I'll take 8-9. As long as the offense looks better.
Blitz on first and second downs... Canales runs on these downs, probably 90% of the time! (Bucs fan)
The entire national sports media world is sleeping on the Bucs... except Rich Eisen.
They have a fantastic core of players, Licht trimmed off a bunch of fat in the off season and had a great draft. Hopefully, last years issues have been solved. I wanted a punishing RB like Henry, but the Irving kid looks legit.
We'll see. Should be a fun season.
I think baker takes another step back now that canales has left. Unfortunately because i do wish baker the best, but i think a lot of that success was the duo of baker and dave.
Dave was the problem a lot of the time
HEY! HEY! TAMPA BAY!
THE BUCS KNOW HOW TO SHINE!!!
Saints win a playoff game. Book it today
They'll probably be worse than the panthers
@@claytongiampaolo7848 You're on more drugs than Rich is. Saints improved in the offseason and will do worse? Makes no sense.
I hope so I'm not impressed with DA or DC but I got their backs. If I was on the team I'd be optimistic to the media. But I'm not so I can speak my mind, Derek Carr is not better than Andy Dalton Jameis or Taysom. Dennis Allen is not head coach material. Prove me wrong go win the division.
@@claytongiampaolo7848 wtf u smoking, Panthers can’t even score TD’s.
By next year in 2025 aints prolly be the bottom feeders of the nfc south😂😂
I Love it ,but NO concussion for Cusions.
Best case scenario for the Panthers is not finishing 0-17.
They'll get 5 wins I'm guessing, them or the saints will be worst in the division
You're hilarious bro
If Pitts dominates with fundamentals and his skill is a crazy plus. Then you can't put 8 in the box on Bijan running or receiving.
What was the “Kyle pitts American touchdowns” comment about ?
Didn't he only score in the international game last year, something like that I'd guess?
The Bucs also had 80 mil deadcap last season
Similar as last year. Bucs and Falcons battle for the top spot. Saints with the Panthers clipping at their heels trying to improve on last season.
Saints and Bucs battle for the top spot, Falcons come in third.
It was Saints and Bucs battling for the top spot last season, and Saints actually routed TB in week 17.
TB and Falcons will battle for 2nd in the division, and that's assuming Falcons don't end up going on a losing streak to open the season while Cousins gets used to his new team. Saints will win the division.
There's potential for a 3 way race, if everything goes right for TB and ATL.
It's absolutely insane the Rich here would claim that TB and ATL both have SB aspirations, yet wouldn't do the same for the Saints, who not only had a better record than one of those teams, but also managed to blow out both of those teams to end the season. Make it make Sense 😂
As a Panthers fan. YES!!! 7 wins (improvement) sounds feasible. I do not believe we will make the playoffs, however this year we can throw punches back… God willing.
Falcons almost won the division with literally the worst QB in football. Swapping out that clown for Kirk is worth 5 wins alone.
Kirk is the best quarterback in the NFC South and it's not even close. He was also the best quarterback in the NFC North. Kirk didn’t play for half of a season and STILL had a better QBR than Goff, Love, Mayfield and even Mahomes. Had he not gotten hurt, the Vikings would for sure have won the division.
As a Chiefs fan.. Please let one of these teams get to the super bowl
KC isn't repeating. Only reason they beat the Ravens is Lamar couldn't hit ANYBODY. Was so bad I wondered if he threw the game. and SF was the better team but had some really bad luck. LOL
Didnt The Chefs get taken apart by one of those teams in a Super Bowl?
Chiefs better hope it’s not the Buccaneers they play. 😂
@@Zangyaks Baker>Brady. Bahahaha.. and mahomes won't have turf toe with our entire o-line on the shelf playing a road game in the TOMpa super bowl!
@@Fury421 playing in TOMpa bay. With cut outs blocking better than our o-line and pat running around on one foot
Bryce’s “light” is gonna get snuffed out this year.
Its pretty sad that Tampas best case he says is SUPER BOWL and yet he doesnt even feel comfortable giving the panthers 9 wins
Tampa was 1 drive away from NFC Championship game last year…
I just about puked in my mouth when he said he thought Tampa could win the SB. Even best case scenario, you're smoking crack!
I love Rich, but this take was just fucking delusional!!!
Me too!
You are totally missing the point of this segment. Wow.
The optimistic take is gonna be no fun by November for all of the nfc south
I about puked when he simply said "Saints". 🤢
He didn't even have to attach a thought to it.
As a Panthers fan I would love a 9 win season after last year
Yea i can see baker leading the bucs to the superbowl, dude is just a winner. He balled out last year won another playoff game and probowl mvp. So i can see it. Wouldnt bet alot of money on it though.
Mayfield is not a winner. He is inconsistent so to expect him to suddenly be consistent after 7 years in the league is very unrealistic. And the only reason that he was even in the Pro Bowl was that Kirk Cousins got hurt.
@@Paula-mv8im yet baker was top 10 in yards and tds, won the division, won another playoff game, his 2nd in 4 years.. he has more playoff wins than all the starters in the nfc south combined.
This division will shock everyone this year finally get rid of the “easiest division” title
As a Saints fan....I see yet Another .500 season.....average at best until we fire D.A
We just hot a new OC DA is a glorified DC
lol it was so hard to make a convincing case for the Panthers being good
Saints fans would lose their minds if Bucs or falcons win a super bowl in their stadium 😂
Not happening so I guess we'll be okay lol Saints aren't world beaters but legitimately have at LEAST as good a shot at making the big game as a host as those two have of making it.
Bucs and falcons can win the superbowl but new orleans cant when new orleans destroyed both back to back to end last season?
They are the Most talented team in the division or at least theyre in the same level.
Last season they had the worst oc in the league and still got 9 wins (wouldve been 10 with a division championship if carr didnt get Injuried against green Bay when they were up 17-0 and winston couldnt get a 1st down to save his life)
Everything you said is correct except the being the most talented team bucs and falcons are moe talented maybe not by wide margin but still are saints roster kinda old
Rich said “I think the best case for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is winning the Super Bowl” and then it immediately cut to the Deadpool x Wolverine Heineken ad where it starts with Deadpool saying “whoa whoa whoa whoa” 😂
Is it me or does baker look like hes 350 lbs in the thumbnail pic haha
I was excited about this segment when I saw last episode. But if you can put TWO NFC SOUTH teams in the category of “Super Bowl”. Then I can’t take the rest of your opinions seriously
Let’s go Bucs 🏴☠️