You really should watch Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. Both Khan and Carol Marcus were an even bigger part of the story, and the similarities of the ending of that movie and this one are awesome!
I would even suggest, before that, watching the episode "Space Seed" from the original tv series, because that's the one with Khan and is mentioned in the movie.
To get the true understanding and context of the "Khan" character, there are two things to watch in conjunction with this. Episode 22 of season 1 of the Original Series (titled "Space Seed"), followed by "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" provide the answers to the references in the rebooted movie universe.
@@travisfoster1071 The term Trekkies usually defines those of us whom are familiar with ALL the Trek, good and bad. For those only espousing the virtues of 'New Trek', I don't think they've earned the title.
@@Caseytify **yawn** And you're just a copy of the bumpkin they chased out of the village in 1724 because he was a total buzzkill. Seriously, I *love* Wrath and TOS, but if somebody who wasn't exposed to the old stuff enjoys the Abrams-era Trek, just leave them be and enjoy themselves instead of sperging your old man "back in the days everything was better" shtick on every second comment, you sad, sad man. Beside, my comment was on the sound design of a new ship from the movie, which makes your appearance here even more baffling.
@@Caseytify - A copy of what exactly? It doesn't really remind me of any movie I've ever seen before. Other than of course the original Star Trek movies and series, which obviously it is supposed to partially resemble, seeing that it is the same time period except that it was altered by Nero having killed off Jims father and several other things so this particular timeline isn't really going to be the same as the first original timeline - and also, Khan was already in cryostasis before the incident with Nero caused time to diverge, so him showing up was not unsurprising.
This movie was JJ Abrams love letter to Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan which I didn't watch until after I had seen Into Darkness so I didn't fully understand what they were doing with this one until then. A lot of fans weren't happy about it but I have more of an appreciation for the story for Into Darkness now that I have the full picture.
I genuinely feel that Into Darkness would have worked better if it wasn't Khan. Keep the plot the same, but say that Section 31genetically enhanced John Harrison using DNA that they found on the Botany Bay and he went rogue.
Abrams doesn't do "love letters" to movies or franchises. He does "cash grabs." Change enough details to have distinct merchandise, of which Abrams invariably makes sure he gets a cut. It's his MO.
@@Starsaber222 Lol, and I'm just the opposite. I really like the fact that they brought Khan into this new universe - he was such a great nemisis for Kirk in TOS - and I liked how they switched things up so that it was still the same story as Wrath of Khan (with a bit of Search for Spock thrown in) but it was also different because this is a different timeline. And now Khan is still here, so if they want to do a completely original story with him trying to get back at Kirk and Spock they can.
Spock Prime: Khan Noonien Singh is the greatest adversary the Enterprise ever faced. Spock: Did you defeat him? Spock Prime: At great cost. (At this moment, every Trekker is dying to explain to Addie what the cost was)
Actually, Addie, by jumping to the Kelvin timeline of Star Trek, rather than going through the Orginal Series films first, it probably works out in terms of enjoying the movies on its own merits. Would I recommend you watch the Orginal Movies as well? It is up to you. If you have an agenda of seeing other films, do that and perhaps revisit the Star Trek Universe later. Btw, I would not have watched this movie reaction had you not been reacting to it. I thoroughly enjoyed your reaction to it.
The first original Star Trek movie definitely sucked, but take in mind the date year it was released. While it definitely sucked, it’s still worth watching, and I feel like possibly slightly in reference for Star Trek Beyond (maybe)
To put their strength into perspective, an average Vulcan has three times the strength of a human. In "Space Seed" from the original Star Trek series, Khan, as an Augment, said he had five times Kirk's strength.
Yeah at the moment I couldn’t remember those titles or how many episodes it was, been a while since I’ve seen them… lol… but I felt that they gave great explanations behind what the Augments were, there creator, and why the Federation deemed the genetic mutation for Augments illegal to practice due to the danger they posed.
Khan is a famous villain in Star Trek going all the way back to the original 1960's TV series. Benedict Cumberbatch did a good job in the role but he's good in every role. Dr. Strange, Sherlock Holmes, Smaug in the Hobbit movies, Alan Turing in The Imitation Game etc.
Although this one is probably my personal least favorite of the Kelvin Timeline movie's, mostly due to having grown up watching the OG series and Wrath of Khan movie (Ricardo is a tough act to follow when it comes to Khan Noonian Singh portrayals), I still enjoy this movie. The crew once again working together to solve a space related crisis, all the characters were spot on and enjoyable not skipping a beat since the last movie. And poor Christopher Pike is just destined for tragedy regardless of the timeline isn't he, Lol? He can't catch a break
These two movies have been my favorite reactions by you! I can't wait to continue this journey with you. I hope you take the advice of the other posters who suggest the original series episode "The Space Seed" and "Star Trek ll "The Wrath Of Khan". Both are very entertaining in their own right.👍
Really great reaction! Loved it! Glad you loved the movie, honestly, it was great seeing you react to anything Star Trek, I wish people knew that it's not just some nerdy show/movies, but something very enjoyable. I assume you'll react to the third movie in this series. After that, I hope you decide to react to some of the older Star Trek movies, maybe "Star Trek: First Contact", it's a different crew, in a different time, yes, but still very enjoyable, with a great story at the center. Thank you again!
"The Motion Picture" ('79) wasn't good, but it was the first big screen outing for the Enterprise and her crew. "The Wrath of Khan" ('82) had some flaws, but it had some ICONIC scenes and dialogue, and Ricardo Montalbán was EPIC in his reprisal of Khan from ST:TOS. "The Search for Spock" ('84) was okay. "The Voyage Home" ('86) was more absurd and fun than action and adventure, but it was okay. "The Final Frontier" ('89) was stupid. "The Undiscovered Country" ('91) was a fine note on which to end the movies... but, sadly, they next did "Generations" ('94), which was entirely garbage, and a few other, mediocre movies, the best of which was "First Contact" ('96), which was actually legitimately good, if still flawed. No idea what Addie knows about the Borg, but "First Contact" ('96) should be watchable as a standalone, more or less...
@@jimclayson I 100% agree with everything you just said. My favourite of the original movies was The Undiscovered Country and I actually watch it from time to time. The best one in my opinion as well is First Contact. While the movie does a good job in briefly explaining what the Borg are, my main concern is the fact that she's not familiar with the characters. Those of us fans who've seen the "Next Generation" crew movies are familiar with the bridge crew from the shows AND THEN we were rewarded with a few good installments. Either way, I would still LOVE to see her reaction, especially because First Contact is a bit older
Shoot watch Enterprise series, the originals series and movies, Next Generation series and movies before watching Deep Space Nine, Discovery and Pikard, save Voyager last.
In the original Series, (Season 1, "Space Seed") Kahn N'.Singh, from Earth 1990's, and his superior-people attempted to rule Earth in a series of wars. When they were on the verge of losing, they launched into Space, in cryo-sleep. They were found in the 23rd Century by Kirk's Enterprise,...and the movie followed on events, a few years later. One of the major problems with "Into Darkness" is that the fans knew of Kahn, but the characters on the Enterprise have little clue, at first. Bennidict's "I am Kahn!" is supposed to be threatening, but Kirk, Spock, and McCoy shouldn't give a damn who he is, just the destruction and deaths he has cause. In the Comic-Graphic Novel that came out at time of this movie, there is a set of images that Kahn, revived by Secret group of Admiral Harrison, is a South-Asian man. He is shown undergoing genetic adaption to look European, and his memory altered. If that had been shown in the movie, It could have helped to explain the characters origin and name. A Flashback, this movie lacks. Of course, in the two original appearances of Kahn, he was portrayed by Hispanic actor, Ricardo Montalbahn, as the genetically superior South Asian Warlord. The producers of "Into Darkness" didn't want to objectify any one culture, with terrorism they said. Well, that didn't help explain Kahn. One fan theory I've encountered would have worked, if John Harrison was who he said he was -not Kahn, but part of his crew, and took the identity of his Leader, who did not survive cryogenic-sleep from the 1990's technology. You could still have had the whole plot, the threat of Kahn for the fans, but a reveal that he is continuing the revolution in Kahn's name. Oh well. An imperfect film and story -that is stunning on the big-screen.
So making Kahn South Asian would have objectified a whole culture as terrorists but making him white doesn't? What sort of a stupid excuse is that? Either you believe every individual is a representation of their whole culture, no matter the culture or you believe individuals represent only themselves and their actions are their own, not a representation of their culture, no matter the culture. You can't have half and half. Typical PR nonsense speech.
You should watch Wrath Of Khan, widely considered to be the best Star trek film ever. (And no, you don't need to watch the film before that, it works as a stand alone).
As always Addie, I thoroughly enjoy your reactions. I do think I commented on your ST 2009 reaction suggesting you watch to OG Star Trek movies before this one. You could continue with the next one. I certainly would hope you delve into the original movies with William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, and DeForest Kelly. Their titles are: Star Trek: The Motion Picture Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Star Trek III: The Search For Spock Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Star Trek V: The Final Frontier Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Those are The Original Series (TOS) cast movies. There are 4 more with the cast from The Next Generation. It's commonly accepted that the even numbered movies have been better than the odd numbered. If you only react to 1 from TOS, I'd highly recommend 2. However, 6 is my favorite. Thanks Addie, again love all your reactions.
Everyone is saying see the original series episode "Space Seed" and 'Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan'. I also think you should, as this movie is a wonderful mirror to ST2, especially.
Hey Addie. Another great reaction! I know that you don't typically do TV reactions, but even if it's just on your own time, you should definitely check out the BBC "Sherlock." It's Benedict Cumberbatch's best performance, and my all-time favorite TV show, if I might add😉
It’s good that you watched this series of Star Trek before the older movies. The old movie assume the audience knows about Vulcans through pop culture as there is no explanation in the film. A viewer new to Star Trek would be lost.
That narration at the end - "her five year mission, to explore strange, new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations..." - was part of each episode's opening credit sequence from the original 1960s series. It's been modified slightly ("to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" instead of the original's "where no MAN has gone before") but it will always be a key component of the Trek DNA.
Yes, the journey of Kirk is really interesting. From the immature boy to where we all thought he is now a rational captain in the first movie, but of course since he got there so fast, we see in the beginning of the second that he still doesn't get all that moral concepts that Starfleet has. And then, in his speech at the end, we see how he evolved and sees how it all makes sense. Becoming the Kirk we know from the original series, where he keeps his boldness, but still is mature and understands the responsibility of him as a captain. Now the third movie will be interesting because it introduces another "personality crisis" a long time after this. We all know that. I guess it takes a lot more time to get to terms with what you want in the long term. It's a stage we all have to go through.
I love that whenever someone gets sucked into space there isn’t any sound, because sound relies on something to carry it and there is nothing in space to carry it. So in reality no matter how loud a noise should be, it would be completely silent in space. I get why some things make noise in space from a filmmaking perspective but I would love to see a space movie where that stays consistent.
Khan was a character that appeared in the original Star Trek television series and was later the subject of the second Star Trek movie with the original cast. A man genetically enhanced in every aspect and could easily adapt to the 23rd century. What made him dangerous wasn't his physical strength but rather his intelligence. Yet, that intelligence was also his Achilles heel as it led to his pride. He would rather die than surrender. When you eventually watch Wrath of Khan, pay attention to all the connections to Moby Dick.
I have never considered myself to be a Star trek fan, but from a moviegoer point of view, these movies are AMAZING! My interest in the Start Trek universe woke after watching these. I am extremely happy that a new one is underway!!!
I think most (if not all) of the actors they chose for the reboot represented their character very well. If you do choose to go to either the original series or even just the movies, you will definitely be able to see that Jim, Bones, Spock, Scotty, and everyone else are the same characters from these movies (just in a different timeline).
I initially approached this movie with trepidation because it seemed too early in the franchise to start revisiting old storylines, but it turned out to be really solid overall (though the "quick-fix" to bring back Kirk was a bit too convenient). And once again, the brilliant casting continues. Peter Weller is a solid conflicted villain in anything and Benihana Campersquatch is a welcome addition to any project. 😀 Awesome reaction as always, Addie. Looking forward to the next one. 👍✌❤
I agree, some of the original cast movies are a must see. In particular II, The Wrath of Khan, then III, and IV. And VI The Undiscovered Country. You can then appreciate the many references to the original story lines here: such as the reference to original series episode "The Trouble with Tribbles" (little furballs that Bones realizes Khan's blood has regenerative properties); and in movie III Scottie sabotages a big new starship so Kirk can steal the Enterprise to go find Spock; and so on. Plus you get to see first hand how incredibly well done and cast the new movies are at being so faithful to the original cast and main characters. Not only the casting, but the performances of the actors at replicating the characters from the original Star Trek universe. But some twists are afforded by the altered time-line. Kirk cheating on the Kobayashi Maru test was actually an element in movie II, but was brought up in the previous reboot of Star Trek is but one example. Yes those original movies are dated as some commenters disparage, however so are classics like "Run Silent, Run Deep" or "The Bridge on the River Kwai" or "The Great Escape" - are all very dated but nonetheless worth watching.
There are moments in these films that only make sense if you are familiar with the original series, and subsequent films with the original cast. Interestingly the same actor played Khan in both the original series and the StarTrek ll: The Wrath of Khan movie. The actor's name was Ricardo Montalban, later made famous (before Star Trek ll) as the star of the original TV series Fantasy Island.
Khan and his crew are almost like Captain America and the Winter Soldier. And just like with super serum, even their flaws were enhanced. Fortunately, an angry Vulcan is on that level.
16:20 That "big boy," USS Vengeance, is one of the few Star Fleet Dreadnoughts that have been put either on TV or in movies. The only official canon Star Fleet dreadnoughts are the Vengenace here, the USS Enterprise-E (Sovereign-class dreadnought meant to fight in the Dominion War, but was converted to an exploration ship afterwards, which is why it is armed and armored to the teeth), and the USS Enterprise-J, a 26th century Universe-class dreadnought that was on screen for all of about 15 seconds in the show Enterprise. If you could the ST offshoots (Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds) a couple of dreadnoughts show up there, although not Star Fleet ships. Roll in the licensed games, and there are a few more there, but those are considered quasi-canon.
My main beef with doing this was that it loses sooooo much if you haven't seen at least Wrath of Khan. Bringing Khan in I have no problem with, trying to ape the beats of WoK causes several things to happen, the least of which is it ends up relying on emotional weight that exists way more if you know the original timelines. For instance, when Spock Prime is asked how they beat Khan. Sure, you can infer some, but that completely relies on weight it's borrowing from WoK when it cuts away before he answers. I enjoyed Into Darkness very much, but I really believe it should only be seen if you are at least caught up on TOS Khan arc for it to really "get there." Its kind of a problem in the franchise, they are all chasing Wrath of Khan and we get stuff like Nemesis trying to recreate the base elements that carry WoK to their detriment.
Addie, I'll join the chorus in hoping you'll react to Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan some day. The character of Khan is iconic in Trekdom. No real need to begin with Star Trek: The Motion Picture which is a good movie but a bit ponderous, even for some devout Trekkies. I think then you'll see why the original Khan is such a favorite.
A few things. Definitely watch The Wrath of Khan, maybe even the original series episode Space Seed. The episode introduced Khan and the movie, widely considered the best Star Trek film, wrapped it up. There are many parallels in this movie to The Wrath of Khan. Khan, prior to going to space, was a dictator on Earth during the Eugenics Wars, a fictional conflict in Earth's history within the Star Trek universe. He conquered a full 25% of the planet before being overthrown. Carol Marcus and James Kirk have a child together in the original timeline (the one Old Spock is from). The five year mission mentioned at the end of this film is chronicled in the original Star Trek and is later regarded as legendary by characters within their universe. The scene where Kirk turns around while Carol is changing is controversial, with some seeing it as gratuitous. However, the actress who played Carol, Alice Eve, really likes that scene. She said she worked out really hard to get in great shape for it, and hates when that scene gets cut out.
Thanks for reacting to the Star Trek movies. And I find it very interesting that you started with the new movies so that you know absolutely nothing about the previous timeline and its allusions. I also recommend you watch the older Star Trek movies - I think you'll enjoy them a lot
Benedict Cumberbatch is an amazing villain!! The greater the competition the greater the victory. A huge win for the entire Enterprise crew. As a fan of this movie, and of you, you nailed a lot of my favorite scenes and lines in this video. But one little part was omitted that I was looking forward to... it would have been at 22:24 .... your trademark, "How dare you!" It was very fitting. (Just letting you know that I'm a fan of it!) Can't wait for the t shirts to go on sale with that! Take care, Addie!
BC killed it as Khan. All of the cast was wonderful but I think BC was the best out of them. This was a wonderful movie and I loved seeing how the characters developed in the Kelvin Timeline for these three films.
Just watching this, and just watched your review of '09 Trek. I really appreciate getting a newcomer's perspective on my favorite franchise beginning with the newer movies! Personally, I think '09 and Beyond were really good (Beyond is even one of my favorites in the entire franchise!) While I felt this one was too derivative of the original Wrath of Khan. So I haven't watched this whole review yet and maybe you address this within, but I strongly recommend watching Star Treks 2-4 and 6. They're fairly newcomer friendly, especially since you have already seen these movies, and I honestly think they're excellent movies in addition to just being Trek movies. 2-4 are a trilogy in that they take place back to back to one another, though they all have distinct tones, with the fourth one being, well, basically a comedy! And then 6 was the end of the series for most of the original cast, their very last run together, and it is a darned good political thriller on top of that, with some excellent acting from Christopher Plummer and David Warner, among others. Sorry for the basically essay if a comment, I tend to get a bit long winded talking about my favorite franchise, but either way, I very much look forward to seeing your takes on this movie and hopefully at least Star Trek Beyond!
Young Spock asks: "Did You Defeat Him?" Original Spock answers: "At Great Cost...Yes." If YOU ever go back and watch the classic Star Trek films, YOU will understand what He meant. . .
As a hardcore Trek fan for most of my life, this flick was very difficult to get through more than once. The big thing I that didn’t work for me was that it still required some knowledge of Star Trek II and Space Seed (the original series episode that marked the first appearance of a particular character) to get the most out of it. I won’t go on a rant, but what I do like about the Kelvin-verse films is that I’ve seen them introduce a number of young people to the original series and all the Berman era entries. They’re also decent action flicks as well. If you like what you’ve been seeing, give the older stuff a try after you finish Star Trek Beyond. Queue the old man yells at cloud meme.
This newly-revamped introduction to Star Trek has been super cool 😎. Obviously, I'd heard of and glimpsed the original characters but I love these new generation ones. Star Trek Voyager is my ultimate favourite fantasy batch of stories though 🥰😂😅.
Awesome reactions @Addie Counts! Wife and I love watching you react. Many Trek fans dislike this movie. I personally am not one of them. I think the movie does a great job 'resetting' the series in a way that allows for all new stories and the new younger actors I feel do a great job assuming the roles of such beloved characters. Overall the 1st movie in this series and then this one were both excellent. I do not however feel the same about what followed these.
A great re-imagining of The Wrath of Khan that suffers from 2 fatal flaws. First, was even attempting to fill the shoes of one of the greatest villains ever portrayed on screen. Second, the twist and turns that you mentioned were 100% obvious to anyone that saw the original first. I do enjoy this version, but it was severely undermined from the very beginning, bordering on parody for many fans of the original. Cumberbatch did an excellent job, but he was given an impossible task. In Wrath Of Khan here is also a battle sequence that is a throwback to WW2 submarine battles. Expertly executed, it really elevates the movie, but I'll admit to personal bias on that one. Obviously another vote for you to react to it, and pretty much all the Original Trek Movies once you finish these.. just be a tad forgiving with The Motion Picture, a slow motion love letter to fans seeing the Enterprise on the big screen for the first time after decades of nothing but reruns from the 60's
You definitely need to go back and watch the original movies at some point, both to get a better context for this movie but also because they are enjoyable all on their own.
Great reaction. You've probably got many comments saying the same, but definitely check out Wrath of Khan to fully flesh out that story. :) 21:59 I know it's kind of moot to say since it's the same outcome regardless, but Khan wasn't really faking. His superhuman traits just give him a much faster recovery time from a stun blast.
Funny that the guy they had play the admiral who reinstated Kirk as Enterprise's Captain also played the villain, John Frederick Paxton, leader of the human xenophobic terrorist group Terra Prime, in 2 of the last 3 episodes of (the *highly-underrated* imho) "Enterprise" series of the early 2000s...
What makes Khan a unique movie villain is that his actions in The Wrath of Khan affects everything that happens in the remaining 4 original cast movies. I don't think there is a character who's single actions moved the storyline of so many following movies.
Good reaction I enjoyed this film a lot BC did a fantastic job as Khan was very scary. I really liked the design of Marcus ship. As far as I know, it's bigger than the known Galaxy class.
The dark aspects of Federation is a recuring theme from the design of warships like the defiant class or akira class or the secret agency of section 31 (a similar organization as the romulan Tal shiar or the Obsidian order of the Cardassian empire) or modern humans capable of terrorism like the Maquis.
Many existing Trek fans disliked this movie. It rehashed familiar, even ”sacred“ territory for us. There is a lot of love and reverence for the source material Into Darkness pulled from. That influenced our opinions quite a bit. I like seeing opinions free from that prejudice.
As others have mentioned - I HIGHLY recommend watching Season 1, Episode 22 of the original Star Trek series, "Space Seed", followed by the movie Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. You MIGHT want to watch Star Trek The Motion Picture between those, but, it's not a great movie... it would have been a good two or three part TV episode, but, not a great movie. It provides some timeline orientation between TOS and ST:II... The Wrath of Khan is one of (if not THE) best Star Trek movie ever made.
Alternate reality to the "Wrath of Khan" *spoilers - It was the other way around on the first movie. "Did you defeat him?" "at great cost" Damn right it was a great cost, took us how many years before :the search for Spock" came out.
While I can completely understand why so many people don't like this movie, I have to say, of the rebooted Treks, it was one of my favorites. I like how they wanted to remake "The Wrath of Khan" but they went with a different direction. I also like the changes to the ending. While not as emotionally gut-punching as "The Wrath of Khan" (mostly because we don't know the rebooted characters well enough to actually deeply care for them), Into Darkness still makes me happy.
Only a few reactions to the original Star Trek movies and to be honest I can understand. But the one that sticks out the most is The Wrath of Khan. I wish that once someone would do first reations to Space Seed (original episode), then Wrath of Khan, then this movie. Still I love Addie and her reactions. ❣
You skipped my favourite exchange bones Jim you don’t pull a bank robbery when the getaway car has a flat tyre” Kirk I’m sure the core will be repaired when I arrive back isn’t that right ? Checkov:………yes captain. Kirk: Mr sulu in the meantime you have a con” Bones: you just sat Sulu down at a high stakes poker game with no cards and told him to bluff, now he’s a good man but he’s no captain. Kirk: Well for the next hours he is…..AND ENOUGH WITH THE METAPHORS, That’s an order!” *Kirk out *
You really should watch Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. Both Khan and Carol Marcus were an even bigger part of the story, and the similarities of the ending of that movie and this one are awesome!
I would even suggest, before that, watching the episode "Space Seed" from the original tv series, because that's the one with Khan and is mentioned in the movie.
Genesis Cave theme is magical
Yea I was going to give the young lady similar information
That movie is dated and ridiculous. I prefer this version
@@CYB3R2K burn the heretic! Shut your face and know your place, adults are talking.
Rest in Peace to Anton Yelchin, He played Chekov. Passed away in 2016, Damn fine actor he was.
To get the true understanding and context of the "Khan" character, there are two things to watch in conjunction with this. Episode 22 of season 1 of the Original Series (titled "Space Seed"), followed by "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" provide the answers to the references in the rebooted movie universe.
Fond memories am I right😊
Or she could just enjoy the movie as is?
yes, this.
@@dabreal82 how do you even enjoy JarJar Abrams movies?
@@travisfoster1071 The term Trekkies usually defines those of us whom are familiar with ALL the Trek, good and bad. For those only espousing the virtues of 'New Trek', I don't think they've earned the title.
You will get a greater understanding of this film when you watch "Wrath of Khan " from the earlier Star Trek Movie Series
Space Seed.. the episode literally explains everything Khan is.
This isn’t KHAN
@@travisfoster1071 exactly! Wrath of Khan was great because we were introduced to Khan so many years before and we knew his history
Good call.
Definitely watch ST: WOK from the original movies. But also before that watch Space Seed from the original series.
Gotta say tho, the sound design of the Vengeance is superb. That thing just *oozes* terror compared to the regular Starfleet ships.
Except that the movie is a ripoff from forty years ago. It has no value. It's a bad copy.
@@Caseytify **yawn** And you're just a copy of the bumpkin they chased out of the village in 1724 because he was a total buzzkill.
Seriously, I *love* Wrath and TOS, but if somebody who wasn't exposed to the old stuff enjoys the Abrams-era Trek, just leave them be and enjoy themselves instead of sperging your old man "back in the days everything was better" shtick on every second comment, you sad, sad man.
Beside, my comment was on the sound design of a new ship from the movie, which makes your appearance here even more baffling.
@@Caseytify - A copy of what exactly? It doesn't really remind me of any movie I've ever seen before. Other than of course the original Star Trek movies and series, which obviously it is supposed to partially resemble, seeing that it is the same time period except that it was altered by Nero having killed off Jims father and several other things so this particular timeline isn't really going to be the same as the first original timeline - and also, Khan was already in cryostasis before the incident with Nero caused time to diverge, so him showing up was not unsurprising.
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@@CaseytifyAll art is derivative. Learn about movies.
Along with Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock and Voyage Home are great original cast movies.
I prefer The Motion Picture & 4. I didn't care that much for 2 or 3.
1 was worst quality
This movie was JJ Abrams love letter to Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan which I didn't watch until after I had seen Into Darkness so I didn't fully understand what they were doing with this one until then. A lot of fans weren't happy about it but I have more of an appreciation for the story for Into Darkness now that I have the full picture.
I genuinely feel that Into Darkness would have worked better if it wasn't Khan. Keep the plot the same, but say that Section 31genetically enhanced John Harrison using DNA that they found on the Botany Bay and he went rogue.
@Starsaber yeah he never felt right as Khan.
Abrams doesn't do "love letters" to movies or franchises. He does "cash grabs." Change enough details to have distinct merchandise, of which Abrams invariably makes sure he gets a cut. It's his MO.
@@jimclayson when you listen to his DVD commentary, every scene is his favorite scene. Every. Single. One. That's ego.
@@Starsaber222 Lol, and I'm just the opposite. I really like the fact that they brought Khan into this new universe - he was such a great nemisis for Kirk in TOS - and I liked how they switched things up so that it was still the same story as Wrath of Khan (with a bit of Search for Spock thrown in) but it was also different because this is a different timeline. And now Khan is still here, so if they want to do a completely original story with him trying to get back at Kirk and Spock they can.
Spock Prime: Khan Noonien Singh is the greatest adversary the Enterprise ever faced.
Spock: Did you defeat him?
Spock Prime: At great cost.
(At this moment, every Trekker is dying to explain to Addie what the cost was)
Facts! And tears. heh
Let's save the spoilers in case she decides to watch the original movies.
@@Caseytify I didn’t say what the cost was! I said that everyone was dying to tell her what the cost was.
I would agree watching the original movies and series are worth watching
Actually, Addie, by jumping to the Kelvin timeline of Star Trek, rather than going through the Orginal Series films first, it probably works out in terms of enjoying the movies on its own merits. Would I recommend you watch the Orginal Movies as well? It is up to you. If you have an agenda of seeing other films, do that and perhaps revisit the Star Trek Universe later. Btw, I would not have watched this movie reaction had you not been reacting to it. I thoroughly enjoyed your reaction to it.
I'd recommend skipping the 1st and 5th movies though, lol.
I couldn't disagree more.
@@seannovack3834 good for you I suppose
@@brandonparisien2381 I disagree. The Motion Picture was a great space film
The first original Star Trek movie definitely sucked, but take in mind the date year it was released. While it definitely sucked, it’s still worth watching, and I feel like possibly slightly in reference for Star Trek Beyond (maybe)
To put their strength into perspective, an average Vulcan has three times the strength of a human. In "Space Seed" from the original Star Trek series, Khan, as an Augment, said he had five times Kirk's strength.
Star Trek Enterprise season 4 has a few episodes that explains what augments are
@@Matt-RogueJedi88 Yes, the 3 part Aric Soong arc which begins with "Borderland".
Yeah at the moment I couldn’t remember those titles or how many episodes it was, been a while since I’ve seen them… lol… but I felt that they gave great explanations behind what the Augments were, there creator, and why the Federation deemed the genetic mutation for Augments illegal to practice due to the danger they posed.
@@Matt-RogueJedi88 Spock said it perfectly in "Space Seed" in my opinion: '...superior ability breeds superior ambition".
I am not a Star Trek, but I like the reboot movies the characters are all well made and well acted so you really connect which I enjoy.
Khan is a famous villain in Star Trek going all the way back to the original 1960's TV series.
Benedict Cumberbatch did a good job in the role but he's good in every role. Dr. Strange, Sherlock Holmes, Smaug in the Hobbit movies, Alan Turing in The Imitation Game etc.
He was an excellent Sherlock indeed.
Cumberbatch did a great job. The fault lies in the screenplay.
Actually the entire new crew are also great.
@@Caseytify I agree there are problems with this and the other Kelvin movies but overall I really liked them.
I really liked BC in this film and loved him in Dr. Strange as well. He nails it in every role he is in.
Although this one is probably my personal least favorite of the Kelvin Timeline movie's, mostly due to having grown up watching the OG series and Wrath of Khan movie (Ricardo is a tough act to follow when it comes to Khan Noonian Singh portrayals), I still enjoy this movie. The crew once again working together to solve a space related crisis, all the characters were spot on and enjoyable not skipping a beat since the last movie. And poor Christopher Pike is just destined for tragedy regardless of the timeline isn't he, Lol? He can't catch a break
These two movies have been my favorite reactions by you! I can't wait to continue this journey with you. I hope you take the advice of the other posters who suggest the original series episode "The Space Seed" and "Star Trek ll "The Wrath Of Khan". Both are very entertaining in their own right.👍
Really great reaction! Loved it! Glad you loved the movie, honestly, it was great seeing you react to anything Star Trek, I wish people knew that it's not just some nerdy show/movies, but something very enjoyable. I assume you'll react to the third movie in this series. After that, I hope you decide to react to some of the older Star Trek movies, maybe "Star Trek: First Contact", it's a different crew, in a different time, yes, but still very enjoyable, with a great story at the center. Thank you again!
"The Motion Picture" ('79) wasn't good, but it was the first big screen outing for the Enterprise and her crew. "The Wrath of Khan" ('82) had some flaws, but it had some ICONIC scenes and dialogue, and Ricardo Montalbán was EPIC in his reprisal of Khan from ST:TOS. "The Search for Spock" ('84) was okay. "The Voyage Home" ('86) was more absurd and fun than action and adventure, but it was okay. "The Final Frontier" ('89) was stupid. "The Undiscovered Country" ('91) was a fine note on which to end the movies... but, sadly, they next did "Generations" ('94), which was entirely garbage, and a few other, mediocre movies, the best of which was "First Contact" ('96), which was actually legitimately good, if still flawed.
No idea what Addie knows about the Borg, but "First Contact" ('96) should be watchable as a standalone, more or less...
@@jimclayson I 100% agree with everything you just said. My favourite of the original movies was The Undiscovered Country and I actually watch it from time to time. The best one in my opinion as well is First Contact. While the movie does a good job in briefly explaining what the Borg are, my main concern is the fact that she's not familiar with the characters. Those of us fans who've seen the "Next Generation" crew movies are familiar with the bridge crew from the shows AND THEN we were rewarded with a few good installments. Either way, I would still LOVE to see her reaction, especially because First Contact is a bit older
Shoot watch Enterprise series, the originals series and movies, Next Generation series and movies before watching Deep Space Nine, Discovery and Pikard, save Voyager last.
In the original Series, (Season 1, "Space Seed") Kahn N'.Singh, from Earth 1990's, and his superior-people attempted to rule Earth in a series of wars. When they were on the verge of losing, they launched into Space, in cryo-sleep. They were found in the 23rd Century by Kirk's Enterprise,...and the movie followed on events, a few years later.
One of the major problems with "Into Darkness" is that the fans knew of Kahn, but the characters on the Enterprise have little clue, at first. Bennidict's "I am Kahn!" is supposed to be threatening, but Kirk, Spock, and McCoy shouldn't give a damn who he is, just the destruction and deaths he has cause. In the Comic-Graphic Novel that came out at time of this movie, there is a set of images that Kahn, revived by Secret group of Admiral Harrison, is a South-Asian man. He is shown undergoing genetic adaption to look European, and his memory altered. If that had been shown in the movie, It could have helped to explain the characters origin and name. A Flashback, this movie lacks. Of course, in the two original appearances of Kahn, he was portrayed by Hispanic actor, Ricardo Montalbahn, as the genetically superior South Asian Warlord. The producers of "Into Darkness" didn't want to objectify any one culture, with terrorism they said. Well, that didn't help explain Kahn. One fan theory I've encountered would have worked, if John Harrison was who he said he was -not Kahn, but part of his crew, and took the identity of his Leader, who did not survive cryogenic-sleep from the 1990's technology. You could still have had the whole plot, the threat of Kahn for the fans, but a reveal that he is continuing the revolution in Kahn's name. Oh well. An imperfect film and story -that is stunning on the big-screen.
So making Kahn South Asian would have objectified a whole culture as terrorists but making him white doesn't? What sort of a stupid excuse is that? Either you believe every individual is a representation of their whole culture, no matter the culture or you believe individuals represent only themselves and their actions are their own, not a representation of their culture, no matter the culture. You can't have half and half. Typical PR nonsense speech.
Karl Urban does such a good McCoy impression.
You should watch Wrath Of Khan, widely considered to be the best Star trek film ever. (And no, you don't need to watch the film before that, it works as a stand alone).
I would argue that watching the episode "Space Seed" from the original show helps to understand the film better.
@@KthulhuXxx agree that episode it would be good primer for the film
Carol Marcus was previously in "The Wrath of Khan."
Not nearly as hot 🔥 as this one.
Glad you liked it-Hopefully you’ll check out other Trek for more about Khan
As always Addie, I thoroughly enjoy your reactions. I do think I commented on your ST 2009 reaction suggesting you watch to OG Star Trek movies before this one. You could continue with the next one.
I certainly would hope you delve into the original movies with William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, and DeForest Kelly.
Their titles are:
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Those are The Original Series (TOS) cast movies. There are 4 more with the cast from The Next Generation. It's commonly accepted that the even numbered movies have been better than the odd numbered.
If you only react to 1 from TOS, I'd highly recommend 2. However, 6 is my favorite.
Thanks Addie, again love all your reactions.
Finally, I've been waiting for you to watch the second part for a long time😃🙏
Everyone is saying see the original series episode "Space Seed" and 'Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan'. I also think you should, as this movie is a wonderful mirror to ST2, especially.
“George Harrison,” haha. Thank you Addie, now I’m going through Kahn’s lines with a Liverpudlian accent…
Hey Addie. Another great reaction! I know that you don't typically do TV reactions, but even if it's just on your own time, you should definitely check out the BBC "Sherlock." It's Benedict Cumberbatch's best performance, and my all-time favorite TV show, if I might add😉
It’s good that you watched this series of Star Trek before the older movies. The old movie assume the audience knows about Vulcans through pop culture as there is no explanation in the film. A viewer new to Star Trek would be lost.
That narration at the end - "her five year mission, to explore strange, new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations..." - was part of each episode's opening credit sequence from the original 1960s series. It's been modified slightly ("to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" instead of the original's "where no MAN has gone before") but it will always be a key component of the Trek DNA.
Scrolling through TH-cam I just caught a clip of Harrison Ford on Graham Norton...
It struck me that you absolutely have to see Witness
Yes, the journey of Kirk is really interesting. From the immature boy to where we all thought he is now a rational captain in the first movie, but of course since he got there so fast, we see in the beginning of the second that he still doesn't get all that moral concepts that Starfleet has. And then, in his speech at the end, we see how he evolved and sees how it all makes sense. Becoming the Kirk we know from the original series, where he keeps his boldness, but still is mature and understands the responsibility of him as a captain.
Now the third movie will be interesting because it introduces another "personality crisis" a long time after this. We all know that. I guess it takes a lot more time to get to terms with what you want in the long term. It's a stage we all have to go through.
I love that whenever someone gets sucked into space there isn’t any sound, because sound relies on something to carry it and there is nothing in space to carry it. So in reality no matter how loud a noise should be, it would be completely silent in space. I get why some things make noise in space from a filmmaking perspective but I would love to see a space movie where that stays consistent.
Khan was a character that appeared in the original Star Trek television series and was later the subject of the second Star Trek movie with the original cast. A man genetically enhanced in every aspect and could easily adapt to the 23rd century. What made him dangerous wasn't his physical strength but rather his intelligence. Yet, that intelligence was also his Achilles heel as it led to his pride. He would rather die than surrender. When you eventually watch Wrath of Khan, pay attention to all the connections to Moby Dick.
Another beautiful Trek reaction because of you!
An interesting mashup of original series and movie stories.
I have never considered myself to be a Star trek fan, but from a moviegoer point of view, these movies are AMAZING! My interest in the Start Trek universe woke after watching these. I am extremely happy that a new one is underway!!!
I love Star Trek I'm so happy you are watching these
I think most (if not all) of the actors they chose for the reboot represented their character very well. If you do choose to go to either the original series or even just the movies, you will definitely be able to see that Jim, Bones, Spock, Scotty, and everyone else are the same characters from these movies (just in a different timeline).
I think Karl Urban's version of Bones is the best of the casting.
I initially approached this movie with trepidation because it seemed too early in the franchise to start revisiting old storylines, but it turned out to be really solid overall (though the "quick-fix" to bring back Kirk was a bit too convenient). And once again, the brilliant casting continues. Peter Weller is a solid conflicted villain in anything and Benihana Campersquatch is a welcome addition to any project. 😀
Awesome reaction as always, Addie. Looking forward to the next one. 👍✌❤
I agree, some of the original cast movies are a must see. In particular II, The Wrath of Khan, then III, and IV. And VI The Undiscovered Country. You can then appreciate the many references to the original story lines here: such as the reference to original series episode "The Trouble with Tribbles" (little furballs that Bones realizes Khan's blood has regenerative properties); and in movie III Scottie sabotages a big new starship so Kirk can steal the Enterprise to go find Spock; and so on. Plus you get to see first hand how incredibly well done and cast the new movies are at being so faithful to the original cast and main characters. Not only the casting, but the performances of the actors at replicating the characters from the original Star Trek universe. But some twists are afforded by the altered time-line. Kirk cheating on the Kobayashi Maru test was actually an element in movie II, but was brought up in the previous reboot of Star Trek is but one example.
Yes those original movies are dated as some commenters disparage, however so are classics like "Run Silent, Run Deep" or "The Bridge on the River Kwai" or "The Great Escape" - are all very dated but nonetheless worth watching.
I'm waiting for Addie to meet the original Captain Kirk as well as Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the Starship...Enterprise
And Captain Sisko from the Deep Space 9, and Captain Janeway, from the USS Voyager, and...
@Bien G-Fan I respectfully disagree.
Actually I mean just the movies
I love how every claimed “Trekies” overlook Enterprise series Captain Archer
@Matt-RogueJedi88 archer wasn't in a movie so I doubt addie will be watching him.
Happy new year Addie! You have an awesome channel in 2023 - just like you had in 2022! Thanks for entertaining us!
"pure and simple" callback to the same actor's line "Evil, pure and simple from the Eighth DImension" in Buckaroo Banzai!
There are moments in these films that only make sense if you are familiar with the original series, and subsequent films with the original cast. Interestingly the same actor played Khan in both the original series and the StarTrek ll: The Wrath of Khan movie. The actor's name was Ricardo Montalban, later made famous (before Star Trek ll) as the star of the original TV series Fantasy Island.
This is such an amazing sequel that I can never decide if I like this or the first one more.
I'd be 100% on board with you watching space seed and star trek 2. It would be amazing to see you watch them with your perpective.
Khan and his crew are almost like Captain America and the Winter Soldier. And just like with super serum, even their flaws were enhanced.
Fortunately, an angry Vulcan is on that level.
16:20 That "big boy," USS Vengeance, is one of the few Star Fleet Dreadnoughts that have been put either on TV or in movies. The only official canon Star Fleet dreadnoughts are the Vengenace here, the USS Enterprise-E (Sovereign-class dreadnought meant to fight in the Dominion War, but was converted to an exploration ship afterwards, which is why it is armed and armored to the teeth), and the USS Enterprise-J, a 26th century Universe-class dreadnought that was on screen for all of about 15 seconds in the show Enterprise.
If you could the ST offshoots (Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds) a couple of dreadnoughts show up there, although not Star Fleet ships. Roll in the licensed games, and there are a few more there, but those are considered quasi-canon.
My main beef with doing this was that it loses sooooo much if you haven't seen at least Wrath of Khan. Bringing Khan in I have no problem with, trying to ape the beats of WoK causes several things to happen, the least of which is it ends up relying on emotional weight that exists way more if you know the original timelines. For instance, when Spock Prime is asked how they beat Khan. Sure, you can infer some, but that completely relies on weight it's borrowing from WoK when it cuts away before he answers. I enjoyed Into Darkness very much, but I really believe it should only be seen if you are at least caught up on TOS Khan arc for it to really "get there."
Its kind of a problem in the franchise, they are all chasing Wrath of Khan and we get stuff like Nemesis trying to recreate the base elements that carry WoK to their detriment.
My biggest problem with this movie is that they white washed Khan who is supposed to be a Indian character
Addie, I'll join the chorus in hoping you'll react to Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan some day. The character of Khan is iconic in Trekdom. No real need to begin with Star Trek: The Motion Picture which is a good movie but a bit ponderous, even for some devout Trekkies. I think then you'll see why the original Khan is such a favorite.
10:17 awesome reacts thanks !! As huge Star Trek fan it’s fun to watch someone appreciate it for the first time 🖖
As some have already said, you need to watch 'The Wrath of Khan'. Oh but first, watch the original Star Trek episode which introduces us to Khan.
WHAS VOTING FOR KHAN!!! Benedict killed it as always❤
A few things.
Definitely watch The Wrath of Khan, maybe even the original series episode Space Seed. The episode introduced Khan and the movie, widely considered the best Star Trek film, wrapped it up.
There are many parallels in this movie to The Wrath of Khan.
Khan, prior to going to space, was a dictator on Earth during the Eugenics Wars, a fictional conflict in Earth's history within the Star Trek universe. He conquered a full 25% of the planet before being overthrown.
Carol Marcus and James Kirk have a child together in the original timeline (the one Old Spock is from).
The five year mission mentioned at the end of this film is chronicled in the original Star Trek and is later regarded as legendary by characters within their universe.
The scene where Kirk turns around while Carol is changing is controversial, with some seeing it as gratuitous. However, the actress who played Carol, Alice Eve, really likes that scene. She said she worked out really hard to get in great shape for it, and hates when that scene gets cut out.
Thanks for reacting to the Star Trek movies. And I find it very interesting that you started with the new movies so that you know absolutely nothing about the previous timeline and its allusions. I also recommend you watch the older Star Trek movies - I think you'll enjoy them a lot
Benedict Cumberbatch is an amazing villain!! The greater the competition the greater the victory. A huge win for the entire Enterprise crew.
As a fan of this movie, and of you, you nailed a lot of my favorite scenes and lines in this video. But one little part was omitted that I was looking forward to... it would have been at 22:24 .... your trademark, "How dare you!" It was very fitting. (Just letting you know that I'm a fan of it!) Can't wait for the t shirts to go on sale with that!
Take care, Addie!
BC killed it as Khan. All of the cast was wonderful but I think BC was the best out of them. This was a wonderful movie and I loved seeing how the characters developed in the Kelvin Timeline for these three films.
It's fun to watch you react to this!
Just watching this, and just watched your review of '09 Trek. I really appreciate getting a newcomer's perspective on my favorite franchise beginning with the newer movies! Personally, I think '09 and Beyond were really good (Beyond is even one of my favorites in the entire franchise!) While I felt this one was too derivative of the original Wrath of Khan.
So I haven't watched this whole review yet and maybe you address this within, but I strongly recommend watching Star Treks 2-4 and 6. They're fairly newcomer friendly, especially since you have already seen these movies, and I honestly think they're excellent movies in addition to just being Trek movies. 2-4 are a trilogy in that they take place back to back to one another, though they all have distinct tones, with the fourth one being, well, basically a comedy! And then 6 was the end of the series for most of the original cast, their very last run together, and it is a darned good political thriller on top of that, with some excellent acting from Christopher Plummer and David Warner, among others.
Sorry for the basically essay if a comment, I tend to get a bit long winded talking about my favorite franchise, but either way, I very much look forward to seeing your takes on this movie and hopefully at least Star Trek Beyond!
Young Spock asks: "Did You Defeat Him?" Original Spock answers: "At Great Cost...Yes."
If YOU ever go back and watch the classic Star Trek films, YOU will understand what He meant. . .
"To explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and civilizations and boldly go where no one has gone before."
Hi Addie, loved your reaction on this one. It's my favorite of the JJ Abrahms iterations. Love the trilogy.
I would say that Khan is my favorite role Benedict Cumberbatch has played, super epic job
It wouldn’t be the second Star Trek movie without: KAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHNNNNN!!!!!!!!!
It is interesting to watch someone watch this who doesn't know who Khan is. The rest of us have seen him twice before
As a hardcore Trek fan for most of my life, this flick was very difficult to get through more than once. The big thing I that didn’t work for me was that it still required some knowledge of Star Trek II and Space Seed (the original series episode that marked the first appearance of a particular character) to get the most out of it.
I won’t go on a rant, but what I do like about the Kelvin-verse films is that I’ve seen them introduce a number of young people to the original series and all the Berman era entries. They’re also decent action flicks as well.
If you like what you’ve been seeing, give the older stuff a try after you finish Star Trek Beyond.
Queue the old man yells at cloud meme.
I am right there with you brother. Damn cloud!
The lines at the end of the movies were the intro to the tv show.
That they are and it's amazing.
This newly-revamped introduction to Star Trek has been super cool 😎. Obviously, I'd heard of and glimpsed the original characters but I love these new generation ones. Star Trek Voyager is my ultimate favourite fantasy batch of stories though 🥰😂😅.
Awesome reactions @Addie Counts! Wife and I love watching you react. Many Trek fans dislike this movie. I personally am not one of them. I think the movie does a great job 'resetting' the series in a way that allows for all new stories and the new younger actors I feel do a great job assuming the roles of such beloved characters. Overall the 1st movie in this series and then this one were both excellent. I do not however feel the same about what followed these.
A great re-imagining of The Wrath of Khan that suffers from 2 fatal flaws. First, was even attempting to fill the shoes of one of the greatest villains ever portrayed on screen. Second, the twist and turns that you mentioned were 100% obvious to anyone that saw the original first. I do enjoy this version, but it was severely undermined from the very beginning, bordering on parody for many fans of the original. Cumberbatch did an excellent job, but he was given an impossible task. In Wrath Of Khan here is also a battle sequence that is a throwback to WW2 submarine battles. Expertly executed, it really elevates the movie, but I'll admit to personal bias on that one. Obviously another vote for you to react to it, and pretty much all the Original Trek Movies once you finish these.. just be a tad forgiving with The Motion Picture, a slow motion love letter to fans seeing the Enterprise on the big screen for the first time after decades of nothing but reruns from the 60's
You definitely need to go back and watch the original movies at some point, both to get a better context for this movie but also because they are enjoyable all on their own.
Movie Suggestion: Wind River. It's an absolutely amazing movie and it has a lot of good actors you'll recognize as well.
Great reaction. You've probably got many comments saying the same, but definitely check out Wrath of Khan to fully flesh out that story. :)
21:59 I know it's kind of moot to say since it's the same outcome regardless, but Khan wasn't really faking. His superhuman traits just give him a much faster recovery time from a stun blast.
So happy you liked Star Trek enough to come back for seconds!
Funny that the guy they had play the admiral who reinstated Kirk as Enterprise's Captain also played the villain, John Frederick Paxton, leader of the human xenophobic terrorist group Terra Prime, in 2 of the last 3 episodes of (the *highly-underrated* imho) "Enterprise" series of the early 2000s...
Sorry, I meant Admiral Marcus.
What makes Khan a unique movie villain is that his actions in The Wrath of Khan affects everything that happens in the remaining 4 original cast movies. I don't think there is a character who's single actions moved the storyline of so many following movies.
Good reaction I enjoyed this film a lot BC did a fantastic job as Khan was very scary. I really liked the design of Marcus ship. As far as I know, it's bigger than the known Galaxy class.
In prime universe Carol Marcus became Kirk's first wife. They had a son, also a scientist David.
The dark aspects of Federation is a recuring theme from the design of warships like the defiant class or akira class or the secret agency of section 31 (a similar organization as the romulan Tal shiar or the Obsidian order of the Cardassian empire) or modern humans capable of terrorism like the Maquis.
RIP Anton Yelchin
Many existing Trek fans disliked this movie. It rehashed familiar, even ”sacred“ territory for us. There is a lot of love and reverence for the source material Into Darkness pulled from. That influenced our opinions quite a bit.
I like seeing opinions free from that prejudice.
When jim death scene played..i cried alot
As others have mentioned - I HIGHLY recommend watching Season 1, Episode 22 of the original Star Trek series, "Space Seed", followed by the movie Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. You MIGHT want to watch Star Trek The Motion Picture between those, but, it's not a great movie... it would have been a good two or three part TV episode, but, not a great movie. It provides some timeline orientation between TOS and ST:II... The Wrath of Khan is one of (if not THE) best Star Trek movie ever made.
It's one of the BEST sci-fi movies ever made, to be honest.
This movie made me emotional the first time.
13:48 Lol. Welcome to the character James T. Kirk (and the actress Alice Eve). Life is short.
With transwarp beaming, they don't need starships and Bones cured death. Big things.
29:45 LMFAO! George Harrison! That literally made me LOL!
Alternate reality to the "Wrath of Khan" *spoilers - It was the other way around on the first movie.
"Did you defeat him?"
"at great cost"
Damn right it was a great cost, took us how many years before :the search for Spock" came out.
Definitely check out Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan.
Klingonese is a real language that was developed Four Star Trek three back in the 80s.
I used to watch this when I was a kid
Why was Khan needed alive? After all, they could use the blood from his corpse, or the blood of other mutants, they had plenty of them on the ship.
My guess is they didn't want to chance it with one of the others and they had to beat Khan before he caused any more trouble.
"That's a big boy"... wait until you see the Enterprise-D, compliment 1,015 (Kirk's Enterprise is about 250).
Spock's punches actyually do damage as vulcans are five times stronger than humans
Please have a watch of the 80s Robocop movies, played by Peter Weller (Admiral Marcus) in this movie!
28:23 Vulcans are like three to four times as strong as humans, so Spock's punches and Kirk's punches are not the same.
It's sad that Addie does not understand how profound Kirk's death scene is because she never saw Wrath of Khan.
This one and Wrath of Kahn are amazing
While I can completely understand why so many people don't like this movie, I have to say, of the rebooted Treks, it was one of my favorites. I like how they wanted to remake "The Wrath of Khan" but they went with a different direction. I also like the changes to the ending. While not as emotionally gut-punching as "The Wrath of Khan" (mostly because we don't know the rebooted characters well enough to actually deeply care for them), Into Darkness still makes me happy.
I love all of the Star Trek movies (can't say the same for Star Wars). Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home is easily my favorite though.
Only a few reactions to the original Star Trek movies and to be honest I can understand. But the one that sticks out the most is The Wrath of Khan. I wish that once someone would do first reations to Space Seed (original episode), then Wrath of Khan, then this movie. Still I love Addie and her reactions. ❣
You skipped my favourite exchange
bones Jim you don’t pull a bank robbery when the getaway car has a flat tyre”
Kirk I’m sure the core will be repaired when I arrive back isn’t that right ?
Checkov:………yes captain.
Kirk: Mr sulu in the meantime you have a con”
Bones: you just sat Sulu down at a high stakes poker game with no cards and told him to bluff, now he’s a good man but he’s no captain.
Kirk: Well for the next hours he is…..AND ENOUGH WITH THE METAPHORS, That’s an order!”
*Kirk out *
28:47 somebody please get poor Jim a blanket. His temperature is is 36.3....