I have to say this. I am originally a player of electric guitar. I love rock and roll and heavy music, and always have. But I've also always loved classical music - especially Mozart. No matter what pieces hear composed by him, I'll just spend hours enjoying it. I am so thankful we have this technology, and I get to hear all this music 250 years later.
Nice comment. If you re so open and curious wy don't you give try to Johann Sebastian Bach. In my view, and I'm not alone for sure he is the godfather of occidental music. But I agree everybody has his own fetish. I was lucky, my father did let me hear Bach's music in his studio (he was an excellent painter) starting in the age of some 5. And jazz singer Nina Simone stated in Bach's music she feels the closest to god.
Charles Rosen demaonstrates that the whole work is built on ea chain of thirds. This explains the obscure felling of unity that we have when listening to that piece. The interpretation is outstanding. A recording masterpiece.
Excellent recording of the K 593 quintet by the ensemble led by Arthur Grumiaux. This quintet was written just one year before Mozart death. Thus its solemn, serious character. It reminds me more of Beethoven chamber music than the earlier production of Mozart. It is interesting how there is overlap in the late compositions of one musician and the early compositions of his follower. Tis paricularly evident in string quartets, where the more abstract character of the music tends to obliterate individual differences.
It has been shown by a musicologist that this quintet was elaborated from the beginning to the end by chains of thirds. Hence the feeling of unity that we have when hearing this quintet. It is also the only quintet of the six which has an introduction. This quintet is not the most known of the six, but it is indeed attracting.
@@vigokovacic3488 it is impossible to answer you here since it would require to reproduce several sections of each movement of the quintet, then make up a kind of Schenkerian reduction in order to evidence these chains of thitrds, which is impossible to do here where we can only write texts in a standard policy. This is clearly shown in Charles Rosen's famous book, " '
@@MartinSmithMFM You are fully right, either in terms of introduction or beginning, as in the outsnaging Adagio in H moll for piano. It has been shown that this raid acending arpeggio in a slow tempo (either in a major or minor mode) is a masonic symbol for the enrance of the temple. Tej same is true for triplets ascending tones eithe in major or minor mode in allegro movements, such as the d moll piano concerto or the C dur last symphony 'Jupiter'. Of course, tou can find these symbols in the 'Zauberflöte' or the very last masonic cantata. If I coorectly remember, the last time when he went out form his flat before dying was to conduct this cantat.
This is sheer beauty. You can rarely go wrong with Mozart, but this is one of his best compositions from what was near the end of his life. The recording is marvelous. Thanks for this wonderful post.
Willem Kranendonk I'm much more interested in the mood that the performance creates than a few trifling errors. Nobody objected because Marilyn Monroe had a mole - she was an incredibly gorgeous woman.
Actually I think you can quite often go wrong with Mozart : he over-extended himself embarrassingly (due presumably to a voracious and snobbish wife) when he gets it right, as here, he is as good as the other composers working the Vienna Prague circuit at that time. Not in the same league as Beethoven, obviously. But not bad!
Thank you for sharing this marvellous recording with us. What a bless that Arthur Grumiaux had made many finest recordings of Mozart's great masterpieces. What a treasure. the beauty, the joy, the humour, the intelligence, the playfulness, the sadness and the drama, all contained in just 28 mins! Words are so pale and inadequate in front of Mozart's music like this.
El tema del Finale (Rondó), parece ser una cita del rondó del concierto en Sib, del Maestro Boccherini, inventor por excelencia del género quinteto de cuerdas.
Superbe Quintette !, je l'apprécie le plus souvent quand je regarde les étoiles du ciel !, ou que je planes avec je ne sais ou , que mes pensée totales s'envole avec Mozart et sa Musique !.
When I was young, I was an absolute fan of Beethoven. Now that I am sadly older, I am Mozartian, that's all. I do think that Beethoven only surpassed him in piano solo (not in piano concerts indeed, although I love 3rd and 4th). Yes, I know very well Beethoven string quartets, mostly last 5 by La Salle. My favourite Quintet of all time is K 516.
My case Is exactly the opposite, when I was younger and inexpert, I used to be a faithful mozartian...until I discovered the greatness and deepness of Beethoven. Beethoven is absolutely above Mozart in each genre with (perhaps) the field of opera, when even "Fidelio is a unpeakable achievement". And the string quartets from the Bonn's genius is light years above any Mozart's opus. Today Mozart seems lack of interest to me. Its only represent empty beautiness.
@@eduardoguerraavila8329 A strange opinion. I think Beethoven would not agree with statement that all Beethoven's Quartets are better than any Mozart's quartets. After all, he loved Mozart. It was his favorite composer or at least in his TOP 3 (Mozart, Bach, Haendel). I'm sure that Beethoven would indignantly reject the claim that Mozart's works are empty beautiness.
Eduardo Guerra Ávila You haven’t been listening to the right Mozart pieces imo. I would recommend checking out his late minor key chamber music. Mozart is much subtler and more delicate than Beethoven who is grand and powerful. They’re both great, but it depends on what you think is deep and complex. When I was younger I loved Beethoven because I thought profundity was based on intense emotional outpouring and heroism. Now that I’m older, I’m much more of the opinion that true profundity lies in holding your emotions in check and being more introspective. This is what Mozart offers. In my opinion, Mozart’s music is more emotionally nuanced than Beethoven’s, while Beethoven’s is more emotionally intense. There are many passages in Mozart’s music where I have discovered new shades of sadness and joy, often mixed together, in-between the notes.
I like this one very much also. Something about the slow movement. I am no musicologist or critic. Thanks again, youtube....oh yeh, moving into the fourth mov.
Après un premier mouvement tourmenté et combatif, Mozart livre une méditation profonde dans l'Adagio. Le menuetto est serein, et l'allegro final exprime une dynamique communicative.
I know some people that tell me that Mozart was a porcelain figure from Salzburg. May God forgive them for their ignorance. "A thing of beauty is a joy forever".
Solemnity, thoughtfulness to begin with; yes, reminiscent of Haydn, of Beethoven and Brahms too, but then he floats and quickens away from it in typical style, only to return in melodic mode and mood, to wrap all in the beauty of urgency, to end with a flourish of defiance.
Clearly, obviously, I am not; please read again. Something can be reminiscent of something else without any implication of chronology. You may hear Beethoven in Mozart or Mozart in Beethoven.
Mozart in this work was definitely transitioning into a somber period of his life. This works starts out in D major, but it feels that it should be in D minor since Mozart seems to want to be favoring more of the minor sounds than the brighter ones. How sad his life must have been at the end of his life? Makes me think about how sad life becomes when we start to approach our last days on Earth?
Mozart was usually able to differentiate his personal life from a composition but you are right--I think he was really feeling the bleakness of his life that year--he hardly wrote anything that year....
That 8 note chromatic scale tart start to the finale 22:58 had been in another edition of this work completely diatonically "sweetened", and was similar to the second phrase at 22:59. When the original chromatic phrase was rediscovered and being restored it was noted, perhaps around back in the 80's or so that "all current recordings are incorrect." I have Colombia recordings from around the 60's by the Budapest Quartet for instance that are "incorrect"?, using the diatonic phrase. The phrase, whenever subjected to subsequent varied use or development, was also mostly diatonic and permeated at least nearly the whole finale that way. I found a Budapest Quartet recording online from 1946 - toward the end of the movement some chromatic phrasing seems to have "slipped in by accident" or by Mozart supposedly adding that twist there. This recording appears to restore the current corrected edition.
Can you specify the exact notes? I hear A Asharp B C natural D Dsharp E F Fsharp . NOte 4 if a C sharp would deprive us of the F natural. Space for 9 accents. One has to do if you want to span a 6th.
In his last years Mozart was definitely on the improve musically while he was on the downslide physically. What would he have accomplished given another 20 years on this planet? Especially since he'd have been influenced by Beethoven among others in the early 1800s www.lanceaspiritunbroken.com
Improvement is hard to qualify, esp. with artists like Mozart, who probably reached stylistic mastery around the age of 20 or 21, around the time he wrote that great E-flat major piano concerto, K. 271. But we have an idea of what he would have written had he lived, say, to 1795, based on surviving anecdotes and letters. First, he would've written a sort of companion piece to the Magic Flute, a Singspiel based on Shakespeare's Tempest called Die Geisterinsel (the libretto was written by Friedrich Wilhelm Gotter). That Singspiel didn't see the stage until 1798, when Goethe himself directed it (the music was composed by Fleischmann). Two, Salomon would have brought to London in '92 or '93, following Haydn's return to Vienna, and he'd have had a series of subscription concerts ready for him there. He would have been much better known to the British public, and his star in Vienna would certainly have risen. Schubert is another one I wonder about.
@@psalm2764 I base that on the increasing quality of his work in his final years. Hard for me to imagine that, had he lived longer, he would have suddenly lost his talent,
@@walterstoffel4714 I don´t think the quality increased much. From a very young age, he "had it in him". Mozarts life was hard, and his end was forced upon him by men and possibly women who were insanely jealous of him. His music at the end reflects this intense, impossible wrestling with the forces that should not be.
et allez, encore une porte ouverte enfoncée.. Mozart le plus ceci, mozart le plus cela, etc etc.. quand arrêterez-vous de tous vous répéter les uns les autres ??
I have to say this. I am originally a player of electric guitar. I love rock and roll and heavy music, and always have. But I've also always loved classical music - especially Mozart. No matter what pieces hear composed by him, I'll just spend hours enjoying it. I am so thankful we have this technology, and I get to hear all this music 250 years later.
Nice comment. If you re so open and curious wy don't you give try to Johann Sebastian Bach. In my view, and I'm not alone for sure he is the godfather of occidental music. But I agree everybody has his own fetish. I was lucky, my father did let me hear Bach's music in his studio (he was an excellent painter) starting in the age of some 5. And jazz singer Nina Simone stated in Bach's music she feels the closest to god.
I would say that Mozart was the original Metalhead ;-)
If anyone who is wondering the painter is, he is Anthony Van Dyck.
Charles Rosen demaonstrates that the whole work is built on ea chain of thirds. This explains the obscure felling of unity that we have when listening to that piece. The interpretation is outstanding. A recording masterpiece.
Excellent recording of the K 593 quintet by the ensemble led by Arthur Grumiaux. This quintet was written just one year before Mozart death. Thus its solemn, serious character. It reminds me more of Beethoven chamber music than the earlier production of Mozart. It is interesting how there is overlap in the late compositions of one musician and the early compositions of his follower. Tis paricularly evident in string quartets, where the more abstract character of the music tends to obliterate individual differences.
It has been shown by a musicologist that this quintet was elaborated from the beginning to the end by chains of thirds. Hence the feeling of unity that we have when hearing this quintet. It is also the only quintet of the six which has an introduction. This quintet is not the most known of the six, but it is indeed attracting.
In what was was it elaborated in chains of thirds? Would you kindly 'elaborate'.
@@vigokovacic3488 it is impossible to answer you here since it would require to reproduce several sections of each movement of the quintet, then make up a kind of Schenkerian reduction in order to evidence these chains of thitrds, which is impossible to do here where we can only write texts in a standard policy. This is clearly shown in Charles Rosen's famous book, " '
@@gerardbegni2806 Thank you for the answer!
Many of his greatest works have that Adagio introduction.
@@MartinSmithMFM You are fully right, either in terms of introduction or beginning, as in the outsnaging Adagio in H moll for piano. It has been shown that this raid acending arpeggio in a slow tempo (either in a major or minor mode) is a masonic symbol for the enrance of the temple. Tej same is true for triplets ascending tones eithe in major or minor mode in allegro movements, such as the d moll piano concerto or the C dur last symphony 'Jupiter'. Of course, tou can find these symbols in the 'Zauberflöte' or the very last masonic cantata. If I coorectly remember, the last time when he went out form his flat before dying was to conduct this cantat.
This piece is like a glass of the best scotch: a perfect blend and equilibrium of different scents and flavors ...
Exactly, that fire in the fugal finale.
Easy to understand as Michael Wu will not allow -
All the best things are: Leonardo, Christianity, a sunrise.
Something special about the opening largo... something nostalgic, cozy and uplifting.
Absolutely. Familiar is perhaps better than 'cosy' -
This is sheer beauty. You can rarely go wrong with Mozart, but this is one of his best compositions from what was near the end of his life. The recording is marvelous. Thanks for this wonderful post.
Gerry Rains But something went wrong with the recording around minute 14th.
Willem Kranendonk I'm much more interested in the mood that the performance creates than a few trifling errors. Nobody objected because Marilyn Monroe had a mole - she was an incredibly gorgeous woman.
Actually I think you can quite often go wrong with Mozart : he over-extended himself embarrassingly (due presumably to a voracious and snobbish wife) when he gets it right, as here, he is as good as the other composers working the Vienna Prague circuit at that time. Not in the same league as Beethoven, obviously. But not bad!
+John Lawrence Why don't you Google "Who were the best composers of classical music?".
Gerry R do you listen to Beethoven at all Gerry?
Thank you for sharing this marvellous recording with us. What a bless that Arthur Grumiaux had made many finest recordings of Mozart's great masterpieces. What a treasure. the beauty, the joy, the humour, the intelligence, the playfulness, the sadness and the drama, all contained in just 28 mins! Words are so pale and inadequate in front of Mozart's music like this.
El tema del Finale (Rondó), parece ser una cita del rondó del concierto en Sib, del Maestro Boccherini, inventor por excelencia del género quinteto de cuerdas.
1:30 Outburst from the violin who then tries to act nothing happened (1:37 like the cartoon whistling/"just minding my own business" thing)
hahaahha this made me smile, as does the increasing silliness of the final quintets
Bello Mozart. Inigualable. Gracias por postear este quinteto. Es una verdadera maravilla.
wow, that finale! incredible! thanks for uploading!
Mozart doing chromatic
Superbe Quintette !, je l'apprécie le plus souvent quand je regarde les étoiles du ciel !, ou que je planes avec je ne sais
ou , que mes pensée totales s'envole avec Mozart et sa Musique !.
Quel beau francais.
so much elegance....
Beautiful!!! Thank you for sharing!!!
The Finale is insane!
Mozart!
The last two string quintets of Mozart are precursors of Beethoven's late quartets, both composers at the summit of his art.
you mean Beethoven copied Mozart. That would be correct.
איזה מוזיקה יפה! פשוט נפלא! תודה
Mozart - You are the Messenger of God
Моцарт - ты посланник Бога
Exactly.
When I was young, I was an absolute fan of Beethoven. Now that I am sadly older, I am Mozartian, that's all. I do think that Beethoven only surpassed him in piano solo (not in piano concerts indeed, although I love 3rd and 4th). Yes, I know very well Beethoven string quartets, mostly last 5 by La Salle.
My favourite Quintet of all time is K 516.
My case Is exactly the opposite, when I was younger and inexpert, I used to be a faithful mozartian...until I discovered the greatness and deepness of Beethoven.
Beethoven is absolutely above Mozart in each genre with (perhaps) the field of opera, when even "Fidelio is a unpeakable achievement". And the string quartets from the Bonn's genius is light years above any Mozart's opus.
Today Mozart seems lack of interest to me. Its only represent empty beautiness.
@@eduardoguerraavila8329 A strange opinion. I think Beethoven would not agree with statement that all Beethoven's Quartets are better than any Mozart's quartets. After all, he loved Mozart. It was his favorite composer or at least in his TOP 3 (Mozart, Bach, Haendel). I'm sure that Beethoven would indignantly reject the claim that Mozart's works are empty beautiness.
Eduardo Guerra Ávila You haven’t been listening to the right Mozart pieces imo. I would recommend checking out his late minor key chamber music. Mozart is much subtler and more delicate than Beethoven who is grand and powerful.
They’re both great, but it depends on what you think is deep and complex. When I was younger I loved Beethoven because I thought profundity was based on intense emotional outpouring and heroism. Now that I’m older, I’m much more of the opinion that true profundity lies in holding your emotions in check and being more introspective. This is what Mozart offers.
In my opinion, Mozart’s music is more emotionally nuanced than Beethoven’s, while Beethoven’s is more emotionally intense. There are many passages in Mozart’s music where I have discovered new shades of sadness and joy, often mixed together, in-between the notes.
Eduardo Guerra Ávila
Maybe this video could change your mind?
th-cam.com/video/ouyigU-ONfY/w-d-xo.html
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@@michaelwu7678 absolutely NO. 🥱
Excellent performance and recording!
very good composition..
Gorgeous playing ...
I like this one very much also. Something about the slow movement. I am no
musicologist or critic. Thanks again, youtube....oh yeh, moving into the fourth mov.
magnifique ! merci :)
Après un premier mouvement tourmenté et combatif, Mozart livre une méditation profonde dans l'Adagio. Le menuetto est serein, et l'allegro final exprime une dynamique communicative.
I know some people that tell me that Mozart was a porcelain figure from Salzburg. May God forgive them for their ignorance. "A thing of beauty is a joy forever".
@Jim Newcombe thank you edgelord, very cool
Many thanks for posting this quintet. Extremely nice playing.
Solemnity, thoughtfulness to begin with; yes, reminiscent of Haydn, of Beethoven and Brahms too, but then he floats and quickens away from it in typical style, only to return in melodic mode and mood, to wrap all in the beauty of urgency, to end with a flourish of defiance.
+Ralph Berney Are you implying Brahms and Beethoven influenced Mozart? Uhmmm, Wolfgang, he came well before they were even born
Clearly, obviously, I am not; please read again. Something can be reminiscent of something else without any implication of chronology. You may hear Beethoven in Mozart or Mozart in Beethoven.
Of all the great composers, Mozart was the most hopeless optimist!
Mozart does not remind one of Beethoven, who came after him and copied all he did.
Danke.👍
good finale
Mozart in this work was definitely transitioning into a somber period of his life. This works starts out in D major, but it feels that it should be in D minor since Mozart seems to want to be favoring more of the minor sounds than the brighter ones. How sad his life must have been at the end of his life? Makes me think about how sad life becomes when we start to approach our last days on Earth?
Mozart was usually able to differentiate his personal life from a composition but you are right--I think he was really feeling the bleakness of his life that year--he hardly wrote anything that year....
but I should remind you that his last year was considerably brighter and his prospects improved dramatically--so his last year was a good one...
Mozart was ill-used, of everyone, his whole life. He suffered a martyr's death. He lives eternally with His Creator.
@@windstorm1000 No. His last year was a farce.
So THAT'S where Vincent Van Gogh
Got the idea from!
Thank you!
meraviglioso!!!!!!!!!!!
Divine candeur . .
Mozart, A Messaih of Music Therapy
13:46 - 14:06 : !
Blew me away, too! One of those magic moments...
Recorded at La Chaux de Fonds (Swiss), january 1973.
That 8 note chromatic scale tart start to the finale 22:58 had been in another edition of this work completely diatonically "sweetened", and was similar to the second phrase at 22:59. When the original chromatic phrase was rediscovered and being restored it was noted, perhaps around back in the 80's or so that "all current recordings are incorrect." I have Colombia recordings from around the 60's by the Budapest Quartet for instance that are "incorrect"?, using the diatonic phrase. The phrase, whenever subjected to subsequent varied use or development, was also mostly diatonic and permeated at least nearly the whole finale that way. I found a Budapest Quartet recording online from 1946 - toward the end of the movement some chromatic phrasing seems to have "slipped in by accident" or by Mozart supposedly adding that twist there. This recording appears to restore the current corrected edition.
Can you specify the exact notes? I hear A Asharp B C natural D Dsharp E F Fsharp . NOte 4 if a C sharp would deprive us of the F natural. Space for 9 accents. One has to do if you want to span a 6th.
The good old painterly finger-pointing. "Art is holy", means Mr. v. Dyck (sunflower is a halo)? Or, "Look what I painted"?
Hermoso
thank You. YOU TUB 👍 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 🎶
Is the last movement really a rondo?
Una delícia mozartiana!
21:53
Excepted Grumiaux I don't know these players... Members of quartett or soloists ?
Why cello is written with ' mark in front of it?
Abbreviation of violoncello.
Who is the person in the photo?
Painting: Self-Portrait, Anthony van Dyck
0:03
And if I don't wonder ? It remains Van Dyck anyway ??
i like amadeus.
Hope that sunflower did not say "Feed me, Van Dyke!" and then try to take a chomp out of him.
le meilleur artiste que la terre est jamais portee en son sein
好棒
incroyable: il n ' y a donc que des anglais qui écoutent ????????????????
What's Frank Zappa doing in this Mozart video?
Traveling across the universe on some controlled substance. www.lanceaspiritunbroken.com
reminds me of when i was 24 and seeing my girlfriend nancy in the summer of 66
In his last years Mozart was definitely on the improve musically while he was on the downslide physically. What would he have accomplished given another 20 years on this planet? Especially since he'd have been influenced by Beethoven among others in the early 1800s www.lanceaspiritunbroken.com
Improvement is hard to qualify, esp. with artists like Mozart, who probably reached stylistic mastery around the age of 20 or 21, around the time he wrote that great E-flat major piano concerto, K. 271. But we have an idea of what he would have written had he lived, say, to 1795, based on surviving anecdotes and letters. First, he would've written a sort of companion piece to the Magic Flute, a Singspiel based on Shakespeare's Tempest called Die Geisterinsel (the libretto was written by Friedrich Wilhelm Gotter). That Singspiel didn't see the stage until 1798, when Goethe himself directed it (the music was composed by Fleischmann). Two, Salomon would have brought to London in '92 or '93, following Haydn's return to Vienna, and he'd have had a series of subscription concerts ready for him there. He would have been much better known to the British public, and his star in Vienna would certainly have risen. Schubert is another one I wonder about.
Yes I believe Schubert died at age 31 and he was also very prolific and poor like Mozart @@scrymgeour34
@@walterstoffel4714 Beethoven would have been nothing without Mozart, whom he helped to destroy.
Does anyone else here think that the first movement sounds a lot more like something Haydn would write than Mozart?
Not really, it is a kind of ironic simplicity -
Mozart's was a talent not totally fulfilled due to premature death.
How do you know?
@@psalm2764 I base that on the increasing quality of his work in his final years. Hard for me to imagine that, had he lived longer, he would have suddenly lost his talent,
@@walterstoffel4714 I don´t think the quality increased much. From a very young age, he "had it in him". Mozarts life was hard, and his end was forced upon him by men and possibly women who were insanely jealous of him. His music at the end reflects this intense, impossible wrestling with the forces that should not be.
et allez, encore une porte ouverte enfoncée.. Mozart le plus ceci, mozart le plus cela, etc etc.. quand arrêterez-vous de tous vous répéter les uns les autres ??
Nonsense. There are many deeply felt an glorious testimonies here.
Divine candeur . .
13:46
20:58
20:36