VortexLIVE: How to Mount a Red Dot to a Handgun
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- A VortexLIVE re-broadcast where we demonstrate the many ways to mount a Red Dot to your handgun. #VortexLIVE
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I recently mounted a Viper on a Walther Q5. I’m quite pleased with it but do have one suggestion. If the top rear of the sight had a quarter inch channel right between the two lock screws (directly over the elevation adjustment screw) it would serve as a back up rear sight. I actually am surprised you guys didn’t think of that already.
FYI, for those who shoot/compete at USPSA matches, installing the 6-Second Mount (purple mount) and others that mount directly to the frame (versus mounting to the slide, e.g., via the dovetail or milled slide) means you will be required to shoot in the “Open Division” which is comprised of the best shooters, sporting tricked-out pistols that can cost up to $10K. However, slide-mounted optics allows you to shoot in the “Carry Optics Division.”
i'm a bit late, but very glad I found your video. your video saved me big bucks for not sending my blaster to get it mount a red dot. EGW, EGW, EGW. thanks.
Comprehensive exploration of the mounting issue. Very helpful. Next time, make sure the TH-cam viewer can hear the questions that are being asked.
Vortex, I love you guys, buy your products and have not been disappointed. Two things though please:1: Better quality camera on your videos please. No 360p for an online video. 2: Get a tri-pod for the camera. Thanks guys. :)
Would like to see future options for easier better longer battery life for an edc pistol for red dot sight.
Agreed - this is something we are actively working on - battery life is always towards the top of the list when it comes to red dots! Thanks - Jimmy H jchamilton@vortexoptics.com
Whatever battery/sensor combo trijicon uses for the rmr lasts up to 5 years lol...Vortex should do what Bill Belichiek does
16:04 for torque recommendation
Thank you for your excellent video. I was looking for a way to mount a red dot and your video gave me several great options.
You bet! Thank you for your support! -RJ
Thank You for this informative video! I love my rifle scope and would be proud to own a red dot handgun sight from Vortex! I've made my Christmas list for Santa for sure...lol
The time has come Stan...
Well done! very thorough - thanks for the details
Thanks for tuning in! 👊
thank you, great video! i found a sight pusher but would like to get your torque-controlled screwdriver - please advise make and model, maybe, even source. thanks again.
Here you go! vortexoptics.com/vortex-torque-wrench-update.html
How about my Taurus PT 92 AFS-d,?? ( Original Beretta design) Dandahermit
I just purchased the viper red dot and I am going to mount it on my Chiappa 60. The pistol has a picatinny rail and I wanted to know the correct torque for the picatinny rail mount that came with the viper red dot. Thx for you time
I have a gen 5 G34 and mine came factory with the mount cut plus 4 plates for the different sites.
Thank ya buddy, me and my father are up and coming gunsmiths, and especially looking on CHEAP red dot mounts WITH OUT milling. I feel there are too many "universal" dove tail sights compared to what it should be. The universal I am talking about just give far too much slop for a rear dove tail.... those companies need to get more specific tolerances instead of universal.
Love it!
I bought a Vortex Venom, but I haven't installed it yet, it's going to be on a dove-tail mount on a HK USP 9mm. Is there an actual use of the two small vertical white lines just behind the optic, and near the top adjust dial? Given that my set up, I will have to sacrifice my rear ironsights to install the dove-tail mount, I wondered if the two white vertical lines can be of any use.
Will the UM Tactical mount stay on, or will it work for my 10mm or will it wiggle loose when shooting very hot 10mm factory ammo for hunting
any info for putting a venom onto one of the new Desert Eagle 357 L5 edition. It has a weaver rail on top.
The Venom would work just fine, but you'd want to give us a call and we'll send you the weaver base for the Venom!
A Glock 19, Gen 5 with a ZEV upper receiver. Can a Vortex Vernon Red Dot 3.25 MOA be installed there? It does not matter if I have to send it to a gunsmith.
Question I have a Brownells Glock 19 Gen 3 slide it’s milled for RMR -- is there a plate adapter that fits in this cut??? The Venom is too long for the cut in this slide.
The ALG 6 second mount was designed and built at the requested of Delta. Its purpose was/is for hostage rescue missions in linear environments like airplanes where rifles shouldn't be used.
I have a Vortex Venom. What is needed to mount to a Springfield XD MOD2 .45?
When they drill and tap the slide, do they actually drill all the way through the top of the slide?
how does the Crossfire red dot hold up to being mounted to a 20 inch barreled 12 gauge shooting slugs?
Hi, may you help me to find the right mount/adaptor. I have an Arsenal Firearms made Stike One pistol. I would mill the slide and attache the Vortex, Venom type optic. Which mount/adaptor should I use?
Looking for a good torque tool like that. Who makes that one? Thanks
That is our Torque Wrench. It can be found on our website or at dealers!
What about the battery sitting in there? it doesn't seem like there's any upward pressure and so can't get it to turn on.
Referring to the Viper? There should be plenty of upward pressure. We have seen in the past where a milled slide will have recoil lugs that are milled barely too tall and they push the sight up a little bit and remove some of the upward pressure. If those get sanded down a bit to the correct height, we have never had an issue there. Hope this helps! - Jimmy H jchamilton@vortexoptics.com
Why do you have to use a shim wedge when putting a Fast Fire lll on a M&P 9 pro from performance center?
Do they make filler plates for the guns if the dot sight is removed?
Thanks for the great video! I need some advise though. So, I didn't see this video before hand and ended up buying a new Venom red dot. You mentioned that "if you want to co-witness your sights your going to want the Viper." I have a stock Clock 20, nothing done to the slide and so Im going to have to take it to a gun smith to do a slide cut. Am I going to need to return the Venom sight? Because I do want to have back up iron sights.
Hey Jesse!! If you get it milled at a gunsmith, you will need Suppressor Height Sights form Ameriglo to be able to co-witness
I'm going to purchase a vortex viper 6 moa. I have a springfield 1911 and want to know if I need to purchase a mount or will fit by itself?
I liked this video, but I must have missed something. What about listing a few links or in the description area, give more details on the other mounts, for those of us interested in checking out some of those frame mounted options, as well as the sight pusher sources. (I mean some reputable ones, if I search online, my luck, I'll end up with some overpriced overseas inferior products)
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Thanks!
I wish there were suggestions as to how to sight in the Venom without the removal of the rear sight. I've got a Venom in my office for my Xdm OSP tactical (suppressor height sights) and do not want to buy an expensive sight pusher. Help please? I'm waiting for the adapter plate now that I ordered from Springfield Armory.
You will not need to remove anything as the Venom does not have locking screws in the rear.
Considering drilling and tapping the slide on my xd, what is the minimum recommended thread depth for mounting the venom?
Where can I purchase the piece to mount/connect the red dot? I purchased the red dot mount already. Thank you
I am going to install the Venom on a FNX tac 45. which screws and plate do I use to install the Venom?
How about for tanfoglio pistols for stock 2 or stock 3?
friends, what model of mount should I buy for a pistol
tanfoglio ft 9 ?
Thank you for the video. I have one question though. I have a Glock 19 Gen 4 and I saw that there is a special mount that can go on the rear sight of the Glock that this red dot sight can be screwed into. Should I worry about that mount moving after a couple hundred rounds or so? I just don't want to drills holes in my firearm if I end up not liking the sight.
Now what kind of light would go on a 9 mm
I got a Sig tacops - 1911 - looking to get a viper, what plate should I get?
I am looking to add a Vortex venom to my Smith&Wesson M&P 2.0 5inch barrel, anything I should be concerned with or know before going to a gun smith? My worry is that I have a chamber load indicator where you would put the Venom..?
Hey there - the best bet to mount the Venom to your M&P is a rear sight adapter from EGW. This won't block your chamber indicator at all. You can check it out at: www.egwguns.com/pistol-scope-mounts/docter-sight-mount-for-smith-wesson-m-p/
Do people still ask why you would mount a red dot to a pistol? I guess at one time it seemed silly but I think it more common now. Thank you for the video.
Why when you remove red dot ,you have re zero again if is same mounting plate and same spot?
how do o mount Vortex venom on a no optics ready P30 carry
One of the screwheads on my ironsight mounting plate is pretty much stripped from the previous owner so I can't remove it, any recommendations to get the iron sight plate off my TP9SFX so I can install the 01 mounting plate?
One trick we often use with stripped screws is either a rubber-band in between, which helps it catch a little better, or an actual stripped screw bit set you can find online! Hope this helps!
How do you reset the vortex venom red dot
How reliable is this mount for a self defense weapon or a carry weapon?
Extremely reliable! With any mount, just ensure you are using proper torque specs and you are good to go.
so to lock the settings on the viper i have to remove it from the slide?
If I have a trijicon rmr cut, will a venom mount on it or are the holes a different width.,
None of our dots will fit the RMR bolt pattern/recoil lug pattern unfortunately.
What advice on mounting plate for my Sig P 320 venom red dot. Thank
Hey there! Unless you have the X5 model, you'll need a mount specified for the Venom from Evolution Gunworks. All of the mounting hardware will come with that and that'll be all you need to get up and running. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to give our tech support a shout at: 1-800-426-0048 ext. 5. - Erik (ebarber@vortexoptics.com)
For a Dan Wesson - Classic what plate do I need to install a Venom?
It would depend on the cut - give our Tech Support a call at 1-800-4VORTEX ext. 5 and we can figure out what you would need for your setup.
Can I put a red dot on the Taurus pt1911 45 ACP
I noticed during your video you used a torque wrench screwdriver. I have been looking for one that is reliable, accurate and not cheap Walmart stuff. Could you post what brand you use or would recommend.
Hey! We use this torque wrench! www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-torque-wrench
Yeah, but you’re spending like 200 dollars at least to mill your slide and I’m not about to mess up my threads. Lol
Wheeler Firearms Accurizing Torque Wrench $50
Great video Thanks What base plate for CZ 97BD to mount Viper or Venom ?
+Tony Funge - do you know what dovetail cut the CZ 97BD uses? I'd recommend the use of a dovetail mount! -RJ
Yea Thanks for followup. i just ordered Spring persission CZ mount for a 97 after some reserch . The CZ75 and the 97 have the same dovtail cut out. Just incase someone need the same shop.springerprecision.com/product.sc?productId=261
Thanks +Tony Funge!
What are the differences between the Viper, the Venom and the Razor? Which would be the better option for the Glock 19 Gen 4 MOS?
Viper sits the lowest, uses a 6 MOA Dot and has a bottom-load battery. Venom sits up a bit higher than the Viper, but has a top load battery. Finally, the Razor sits the highest of all and is available 6 MOA or 3 MOA and probably has the thickest and most over-built body of them all. Generally, I would prefer the Viper Red Dot because it sits the lowest, but all work great. Hope this helps! - Jimmy H jchamilton@vortexoptics.com
+Vortex Optics - Will battery swaps with the Viper require it to be zeroed again after it's re-mounted?
TheXIIIth - While it most likely won't need to be re-zeroed, it should be checked before it is used in any critical applications. -RJ (Raleckson@vortexoptics.com)
I would also like to add, and @Vortex Optics correct me if I'm wrong, but the Viper was created specifically for mounting on pistols. I've never used the Venom or the Razor so I can't really speak for those optics but I got my Viper back in June for my Smith and Wesson M&P C.O.R.E. and it has been AMAZING!!! Highly recommend it!
You're spot on! It can be used on other platforms just fine, but it is right at home on a pistol! Glad you've been liking it :) - Jimmy H jchamilton@vortexoptics.com
I bought a Venom. For my Glock MOS neither Vortex or Glock included the correct screws for the Venom to mount. I called Vortex and they seemed very familiar with the issue. I was told that they would mail me the needed screws....10 days later and no screws.... very disappointed.
Hey Ted - shoot me an email asap and I will get this taken care of for you and those screws you need put in the mail today! -Rachel, rdepouw@vortexoptics.com
I just emailed you. Thank you so much for the help.
Thanks... they showed up today.
Vortex is on top of it, always.
I have a ZEV spartan slide with an RMR cut on my 19. Will I be able to mount a vortex or am I stuck buying an RMR?
+Bill Lindsey - you'll need to run an RMR, as they are the only one with the wide bolt footprint. The Burris, Vortex, C-more, and Jpoint are all a narrow footprint. -RJ
Witch one of these will fit a stoguer str9 please help
Both the Viper and the Venom would be a great option for your setup. You would need a a rear dovetail adapter for either one of those setups though.
What about Ruger SR9,40,45?
Check out Galloway Precision for a mounting plate. It has built in co witness sights and a cutout for the LCI. Not too expensive and you don't need to mill the slide.
so I'll have to take a Taurus pt111 g2 to a gunsmith to be able to have a red dot?
Hey there! You will probably have to get the slide milled if you wanted a dot. - Kelly, kmartin@vortexoptics.com
which had better battery life? the viper or the venom? wick would you recommend? I'm going to get Jaeger works slide work sometime and don't know which sight to go with. co witness isn't too important. just want to know which vortex product, employees from voted recommend?
They are actually both quite similar in battery life. Granted - the Venom is a top load battery and the Viper is bottom load, so when the time comes to change, there will be a difference there. As far as recommendation for a pistol - If co-witness isn't very important, then I'd say go Venom. In order to get that co-witness, we need to make the Viper a bottom-load battery. For some, that's a perfectly fine tradeoff in order to get the co-witness. For others that aren't concerned with co-witness, that can be kind of an annoyance.Hope this helps! - Jimmy H jchamilton@vortexoptics.com
Vortex Optics yup! it helps thanks! i purchased the venom. im going to mount it on my g19 via strike industries G.U.M mount using the dovetail. thanks again!
Vortex Optics hey i have a new question. i ended buying both optics because i liked both. are there any iron sights that can be co witnessed or used when the vortex venom is mounted to a glock 19 gen 3? im going to have my slide milled for one of those two optics. also since they have the same footprint, would i be able to switch between the venom to the viper?
The only "irons" we've seen that can co-witness with the Venom would be the ones on the Dueck Defense dovetail mount. Check it out to see what we mean. As far as milling a Glock, you'll need to go with some extra tall suppressor height sights to co-witness with a Viper. Can't do it with the Venom. When you mill it, it you want to switch optics around, make sure you mill it for the Venom - the Viper will fit on a Venom cut, but the Venom will not fit in a Viper-specific cut (The Venom is just slightly longer in footprint) - Jimmy H jchamilton@vortexoptics.com
Do they make one compatible with the Kimber Ultra Carry
Hey! Evolution Gun Works has the mount you're looking for. Call their main number 215-538-1012 here :)
I have the viper mounted on my glock 19 Mos and the screws are stripped, how can I remove them?
Matt Man Whats screws are u referring to that are stripped
I have a M&P 22 compact, Which red dot is best for it? Its a after market dovetail plate that can mount on top of the slide?
I'd check out the Venom for a setup like that! 3 MOA would be great for a 22! - Jimmy H jchamilton@vortexoptics.com
Thanks. I just bought the Venom, I put it on my Brand new Mark IV 22/45 Lite, What can I do, I want the iron sight co-witness the red dot sight.
Awesome! Great combo! I'm actually not aware of a way to have irons co-witness on a pistol like that. You could look at one of the Fastfire direct mounts, but that might not sit low enough. Sorry I don't have a better solution! -RJ
Thanks for your reply, the Venom is great combo with my Ruger Mark IV 22/45 LITE , I can shoot a 1 inch group rest at 25 yard. I have to practice off hand for red dot sight, Also I have a old Fastfire 1st Gen red dot sight, I bought over 7 year's ago, It don't work any more, I call up Fastfire customer service, they are going to replace with Fastfire III, so I can install my Mark III hunter, I like the Venom better.
What is the best light red dot to go on a 9 mm
Check out the Viper Red Dot for your setup!
What system works for S&w 6906 Novak lowsights
You're almost certainly going to want to use a rear dovetail mount that replaces the rear iron sight with a platform to mount your optic
could you kindly also make a video on a Factory M&P 380 EZ Shield Pistol with a EGW Red Dot Sight Mount Together With a Vortex Venom Red Dot.. Thanks... 10/10/2021 eta
The same basic principles would apply regardless of the platform. If you have any questions or need any help, give us a call at 1-800-4VORTEX ext. 5.
WHAT IS THE MOUNT RED DOT MOUNT FOR sw 929
if i have a custom slide from POF USA pre cut for a Trijicon what Vortex sight can i put?
Unfortunately none of ours will fit. Trijicon has a very unique bolt pattern that isn't compatible with our red dots.
Thank you for the quick response.
I have a P30sk that i would love to put a vortex on it my question is would I have to cut my slide or can I mount it just on top of it?
Hey there Johny! If you are referring to the P30HK then you can get a dovetail mount right from Evolution Gun Works - egwguns.com :) -Rachel, rdepouw@vortexoptics.com
Vortex Optics thank you for the response yes it is a an HK p30 but is the p30sk version not the full size would that still work for the p30sk? Thank you
As long as the rear sight cut is the same as the full size version, then you should be golden to get a dovetail from EGW!
It is one and same rear sight cut for P30, P30L, P30SK, HK45, HK45C, VP9 (SFP9), VP9SK (SFP9SK), VP40
Where can I get that torque screwdriver
We have them available on our website! vortexoptics.com/vortex-torque-wrench-mounting-kit.html
Does anyone have a way to.mount a red Dot on a 1911 80's series gold cup? I have been looking for years..but they all have to be drilled or milled to work. I don't want to cut up or drill ANY of my original colts. For all I know I may not even like it..??
Thanks in advance.
Great video!
What rear dovetail profile does the rear sight use? You could look into a mount that knocks the rear sight out of the way (Not a permanent modification) and replaces it with a dovetail red dot mount. Evolution Gun Works (EGW) makes some of these and could possibly help you out.
@@VortexOpticsUSA how would I mount a red dot without milling a Walther pps m2
@@kylebrewer6686 without milling it you would need to go with a rear dovetail adapter. I would recommend checking out www.egwguns.com for one!
@@VortexOpticsUSA ty
Can I mount a Vortex Viper on a Taurus Tracker .44 Magnum?
It appears there are some optics mounts out there for those pistols. With a pic rail or some kind of direct mount application for our red dots/Burris Fastfire red dots or Docter red dots, it would mount up just fine.
@@VortexOpticsUSA Thanks. I have purchased a slide which can be mounted on my Taurus Tracker .44 Mag. Just wanted to make sure that the optics would be compatible with the percussion of the pistol.
I'd like to put on on my cz p10 c ?
I have the 07 will this fit the cz
how to install the battery on the Vortex? thannks
Hey Michael - which optic do you have?
@@VortexOpticsUSA venom for my M&P 380 shield ez pistol
@@michaelsj8949 Right on - you would simply unscrew the battery cap on the top of the optic, remove the current battery, replace with a new one, and tighten the batter cap back down. If you have any questions or need help, give us a call at 1-800-4VORTEX ext. 5.
@@VortexOpticsUSA i already place in the battery we good. simple question on the red dot i will follow up... thank you
@@michaelsj8949 Right on - let us know if you have any other questions come up.
What about a red dot on a GI 1911
You will need to get a dovetail mount from EGW. It will most likely be a colt government cut! - Kelly, kmartin@vortexoptics.com
Does anyone know if there is a red dot mount for a Taurus 1911 45 ACP because not everyone can afford a Glock?
Check with Evolution Gun Works (EGW) or perhaps even Taurus themselves are aware of a custom mount manufacturer
So the venom won't co-witness on my M&P pro 9 core ?
The Venom will not - it will be too tall to co-witness. The Viper, on the other hand, has a bottom-loading battery system which make it's profile streamlined enough to co-witness with your M&P Pro 9.
Did you mean the venom is too TALL to co-witness?
Yes! Edited my previous response.
What are you recording this with? Have you ever heard of HD?
I believe in EGW they know about guns get treated well
The Viper red dot should be available in 3 MOA in addition to the 6 MOA
+TubeDobs - we offer the Venom in 3moa and 6 moa, but the Viper was designed to sit low, co-witness irons, and be a good optic for carrying, that gives fast target acquisition and a bright enough dot to pick up quickly in any lighting. -RJ (Raleckson@vortexoptics.com)
Vortex Optics Thanks for the answer, for most we already know that option, but for Handgun users who just like you said want slim optics for cowitness, some are not just looking for speed and 3MOA for the Viper would be a very nice option.
Thanks +TubeDobs - we appreciate the input!
@@VortexOpticsUSA if you were mounting one of your optics on a Kimber Ultra Carry 2, you would go with the Viper over the Venom? Does the Viper have 3 and 6 MOA as well?
vortex its 2016.... trade in your potato for a gopro. at least something that records in 720p
Thanks for the input +JIM. We appreciate it. Check out some of our newer "Vortex Live" videos - We think you'll like the video quality. -RJ
Thanks for doing the videos. How about having a person behind the camera that understands how to focus the lens. Also, please assume that your viewer is a complete novice and knock off the acronyms.
Zoom in for details and get a flipping tripod for gosh sakes.
How about something besides a Glock
why dont you just mount a picatiny rail on the slide plates are stupid ,,,monopoly scam
Great video for the crybabies you shouldn’t even have a gun
Your reasons for a red dot on a pistol are nonsense. The ACTUAL reason is that it allows the shooter to focus the sight AND the target simultaneously. Especially for people over 50 this can be a real problem. I mounted one on my Walther Q5 Match 9mm and it reduced the size of my patterns from about 6" to 4 " at 25'. I also use a laser blank in my office to practice without wasting ammo.
Wilhelm Taylor That is another reason to do it, yes. Truth is - there are very many reasons to mount a red dot to a pistol. Less things at different focal planes to focus on, no need to line a front and a rear sight up, a brighter point of aim to pick up more quickly, etc.
I don't get it? all you people seem smart and intelligent?
but that's the worst place to mount your $200-$400.......
sometimes almost HALF A GRAND red dot! but if you have that kinda money to throw away, send it to me! I don't car how good they say that red dot is.....it will surely, and shortly FAIL! with all that slamming back and forth, something is going to let go! plus with every shot, you almost always have to reacquire your target!!! most handguns now have a picatinny rail on the bottom! that's when you pick up the rail attachment from Fab-defense, then simply mount your red dot on top......done!
now your red dot stays in place, and the only thing moving is your slide! and you didn't have to pay a gunsmith all that money to mill your slide! I have this setup on all my walther PPQ's! they work fabulous!
Dan Sloan I bet you have a sweet nylon holster for it too
Does this video represent the company. Jesus this sucks.
Accurate, helpful information, answering questions live at the time of recording on Facebook - Yep, that represents us pretty well! Thanks for watching.
Your videos are boring. Why don't you try and do some close-up and better location and lighting? Seems unprofessional for a company like Vortex putting out this type of video. And how about a mic for the guy asking the questions? I can't even hear what he is asking you
Wireline .Cables probably because they specialize in optics not video production.
install on a 92fs???
How can I mount a dovetail mount on gen 3 glock and have co witness
The only way to get a dovetail mount that doesn't require permanent alteration to your pistol's slide and get a co-witness is to get the Dueck Defense mount for the Glock - dueckdefense.com/shop/firearms/rbu-multiple-red-dots/ Hope this helps!