The Great Condom Debate of 1991, Limerick, Ireland
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- I put this video together from a tape of raw footage shot by a group of FÁS trainees back in 1991. The intention at that time had been that some of the footage would be used for a slot on RTE's Saturday morning program for young people, Scratch Saturday. But none of it ever saw the light of day due to a complaint received by RTE shortly after the filming.
For whatever reason, the trainees' tape was sitting among my father's box of old tapes, and when I came across it, I decided it would be worth editing and posting the now 30+ year old footage.
It''s an interesting snapshot in time. Although it's apparent that the Catholic Church still had a major standing in certain parts of Irish society, it was clearly already on a steady decline. The contrast in general between the attitudes of the younger generation interviewed and those of the older generation gives an insight into the extent to which the church had shaped moral attitudes in the preceding years.
Of course the influence of the church continued on a steady decline in the years that followed - for better or for worse, depending on one's point of view.
I love how no one buys condoms but everyone's friends buy condoms.
Yeh i need to go shop to get some rn… for a freind tho
😆
@@bradsoup2241 At least you can disguise it with some soup, buh dum tsh, I'll see myself out
@@pow1983 good gtfo
They are worried their parent may be watching lol
Everyone saying 16 yr olds are to immature and irresponsible, surely thats an argument for them not getting pregnant.
And not coming down with an STD, right?
4:14. Condoms! Sure they're all the rage! We're all wearing them now sure, to be sure!
No, but we need to instill proper values, and teach the about protection.
They shouldn’t be sleeping around though.
Young people care too much about sex.
How about not having sex before marriage?
It is a sin.
@@TedEhioghae In your opinion. The catholic church are the last people who should be talking about sexual activity.
Being able to get married at 16 but unable to buy condoms is absurd.
Its like in America, being able to go to war at 18 but not being able to drink till 21
@@joshswain6495 yup.
It's not absurd. Marriage is a holy union while condoms are a way to degeneracy.
The use of contraception is mortally sinful.
I guess it’s a good way to bring those Irish population numbers back to those pre-famine days lol
The pre social media era is so precious
So true 💝
All of human history except the last 10 years
@@bluemoon000-c4r true ahah I find it fascinating the change, I would want too see a documentry on this
What do you find has changed
@@Revilkappa the innocence of communication aha
The global world americanised a lot
Ireland was still a local village
Everyone did their own thing
Know one was in competion
Everyone just concentrated on themselves and to get through life
Even though times were harder and jobs were hard to find
It's a pity they weren't aired, they done a good job.
Apparently you need permission to enter the chemist.
it's kind of obvious from the questions that part of their goal was to really embarrass people. "Do you buy condoms?" is a pointless question that leads nowhere.
420k views anno 2023. A bit late but better than never. :P
I lived in Limerick and loved every minute.
This presenter has BIG BALLS for doing this in '91. I'm surprised nobody told her off! Very impressive work.
In '94 it was almost impossible for me & my Irish boyfriend to rent an apartment. We'd decided to get wedding rings and lie. Then we met our landlord ♥️ Joan, in her 80s. I called ahead and told her we were an unmarried couple. She said "Surely, that's none of my business"! She was amazing I used to sit in her kitchen 🚬 and 🍷 we visited after we were married in USA. We brought her a large (huge) photo of our wedding, she hung it on her wall.
The only bit that surprised me in these interviews was ANY direct answer!
If anyone reads this & goes to Nancy Blake's tell Donal & any LONG time staff Heidi their American bartender says HI!! XXX
Sent on the message to the current manager ✌️ worked in Nancy's for a bit, it's still going strong!
Did you not actually watch it, the very first clip is a pharmacist giving out to her. They explained at the start that this female pharmacist wrote into RTÉ complaining and had the program cancelled. And I'd imagine that majority that didn't , was only because it was on camera and they're only teenagers.
Just shows what a sad country Ireland was that this could be controversial in 1991
@@Ken-sh8vr It wasn't in 91, It was recorded in the late 70s early 80s. It clearly explained at the start of the video that old woman in the pharmacy wrote into RTÉ complaining and got it stopped from being aired. Ireland was literally ran by the church back then, not the government and it was the controversy of going against the church not actual condoms. The fact it's young people doing the interviewing comes across to the elderly and older adults as them being cheeky, that's why they were all getting so offended. It's the total opposite now
@@imahappycamper2022 it says at the beginning March 1991 and in the description and title 91 lad
Great presenter. So confident. Hope she did well in her career. Classic piece of footage. Thanks 👍👍
Just saw my mother being interviewed in Limerick.❤️☘️
which one please
@@heshamabdo4557 the nun 😂😂😂
@@Success4u247 🤨
@@Success4u247 God bless her
@@Success4u247 guess she didn't go for the condom then.
They really went for it, fair play to 'em. Priest and all, everyone was asked.
I loved this documentary at so many levels.
The older people are probably dead, the teenagers are probably in their mid 40s and have teenage kids of their own.
Whoever the presenter is - I hope they had a long and succesful career!
Probably 50s we arent in the 10s anymore :c
@@carlosdumbratzen6332 indeed I also was calculating
I was thinking exactly like you
11:32 this woman is so mature yet she recognizes that the kids are more mature than her technically. I love that people with a brain tend to recognize patterns way better than just parroting a general opinion. I hope she knew she was brilliant regardless of her age.
She actually made a good point. 16 year olds nowadays might on average be more mature (especially when it comes to that sort of thing) than 16 year olds in her time. A lot of these old people saying that "16 year olds are too young and uneducated" might be working from the way their generation was at 16 rather than the current one, which would explain at least some of the disagreement.
@@venmis137 I think as people got access to more info they grew up faster. They "saw" more things in a day, and learnt more, perhaps got more jaded. Whether that stuff was helpful is another thing, but they accumulated more shit from a broader range in a shorter time. That's my theory
She did not say that they are more mature than her. She said that they are more mature than how mature she was when she was 16. Huge difference and you are misstating what she said.
What an incredible historical artifact of the political climate concerning sexual health in the 90's in Ireland. This young woman did a fabulous job with her questions and asking a good range of people. It is so wild to think you could marry at 16 but not have condoms.
I know, I went into this thinking I'll just give it 10 minutes, instead I ended up watching the whole thing. It wasn't just the Q&As that kept me engaged but also the environments, the peoples' behaviours and their way of speaking and the way they looked, the sounds. The world was spiritually a much different place back then, it almost made me nostalgic for a time I never lived in.
No it isnt. The reason that you can get married early, and should, is that not only are you more likely to stay with that person if it is a morally good society, but also to relieve the sex drive without being an adulterer. There is no "sexual health". I say this as someone under 18. It is not wild at all, and it is sad that this happened to Ireland.
@@mariorpg4276
Yeah, it’s no surprise that you’re under 18. If you don’t trust a 16 year old with sex, then you definitely should not trust a 16 year old with a lifetime commitment such as marriage. It’s very clear that you are immature. Stay in school.
I had no idea that there were restrictions for buying condoms in Ireland but it certainly makes sense why my nephew was conceived by two 17 year olds. I'm from Australia but would visit family in a village 20 minutes outside Limerick every Christmas from 1994 - 2003. So apart from my step-brother having a son in 1988, the village had a huge amount of teenagers pushing buggies around the place but I thought it was due to abortion laws at the time. I knew divorce was a new thing and historically weird just like this remarkable snippet into 1990's attitudes in Limerick...it certainly explains why intelligent girls around my age had to drop out of school never getting the opportunity to go to uni and travel like I did or consider a career. A fantastic reminder why The Church cannot have a political pulpit!
@Jonathan Joestar, hey snap out of the 1990's, your own individual sense of morality cannot train teenagers into abstinence without a marriage certificate. At home and in schools you teach them prevention and protection and why. Sex education started in year 10 human biology where it's taught as science because it is. Science always trumps doctrine and laws are not created because my God said so...if it did we'd no longer live in a democracy and human rights would not exist.
Great reporting. I hope she went on to great things. It took a lot of bravery to ask these questions of the older generation in rural Ireland in the early 90’s
A rural city? Is that a Green Party thing 😂
@@gearoiddom I was referring to her interviewing people in villages of Limerick county. Did you watch it that far?
The girl at 8:34 is amazing, goes off in a laughing fit. I wonder what a lot of these people are doing now. 31 years later
I love how you can still hear her howling in the distance 🤣
That's me with her with the red bablndana I ran home and told my mother some one had asked us about condoms in town she went mad I was only 14 a different Limerick now 😅
@@dh-ig2ji how are you now? Why did your mom went mad?
GOD created human body, male and female take wisdom and understanding on this topic from the words of God king James Bible.
Did school teach on Sex education from the Bible at your school.
I am absolutely shocked watching this. O' Connell Street before the council completely wrecked it
Wrecked it ? It's brand new modern street ffs
Yes it is very sad watching how busy, vibrant and atmospheric Limerick City Centre was back then now it is souless and a total mess.
@@michaelcollins1211 Modern? It's like a building site
@@michaelcollins1211 sounds bloody awful! I don't know about Ireland, but in England things were lovely till the post war era and modernisation!
@@eighteenfiftynine well, the Blitz happened.
Loved this video.. Having grown up in Ireland in the 80s, it's mad to see how fast things changed in the 90s..
Yep, a few years later when saf sex adverts started appearing on RTE i felt proud that Ireland was starting to mature, even though we had a bit of a way to go.
As I expected, the youth were way ahead of the government on sexual issues. Most of them, especially in Limerick, were very enlightened despite the lack of sex education in schools at the time.
The older generation mostly won't answer questions, they are totally in denial. The chemists that won't stock condoms have a terrifying amount of power.
A factor that kept the country conservative for longer than it should have been was that emigration was so high, the young people that would have pushed for social change just kept leaving. But this was filmed in 1991, the first year of the Celtic Tiger. Things changed rapidly after that and net emigration became net immigration.
I couldn't help noticing how nice and new the priest's house was. No shortage of money there.
Who’s “enlightening” them I wonder? The same influences that spoon fed you your opinions I bet
It is the same today. The younger generation want to see societal change, more equality, climate issues addressed, sexuality to become irrelevant, etc. and the older generation want to maintain the status quo. That tension has always existed. We could be more advanced today if only we had accepted their premises.
@@Motion4000 does your cynicism have a point to it?
People like OP are the gen X/millennial types that are completely fine with neoliberalism destroying Ireland from the 2000s onward as long as the church's power declines and we get enough workers to fuffil a godforsaken MCN quota
Perhaps being young, dumb and broke meant something
"Don't buy condoms. Rawdog it. That's how we used to do it, and we got pregnant and started families at 17."
They actually started families just a couple years earlier than couples nowadays, lol.
Funnily, historically irish were one of the oldest to start having children in europe, around age of 30 . Even in the 1920s and 30s. It is factually incorrect that many people were pregnant at 17 before birth control. In fact teen pregnancy rose since the 90s in Ireland.
@@AeolisticFury source: my arse
@@AeolisticFury come with the back up my man
@@AeolisticFury Funnily, if you look up teen pregnancy in Ireland the first thing that comes up is a article called "What are the factors behind a 73% drop in teenage pregnancies in Ireland?" (Irish Times, 2022) over the last twenty years. In other words you're talking complete utter shite and didn't even bother to do a google search.
In fact a quick search using Ireland's office for national statistics shows that in 1970 the average women had their first kid at 25.3, this figure was at age 31.1 for 2018.
Not only are you wrong but you couldn't be further from the truth, the takeaway here is that research matters and you shouldn't just take your luddite grandparents "facts" at face value.
The Indian at 6:23 nailed it. No hesitation, he offers a reason (prevent disease) before she could even ask, “why would a 16 year old buy a condom”.
Now widely available
How do you know he is/was Indian?
@@FoMoCo123 Interesting question
@@FoMoCo123 Maybe because there's a billion of them spreading around the globe?
@@FoMoCo123 You might as well ask, "how do you know the rest were Irish", FFS🙄
All the old Irish biddies are like “condoms? NOOOO THEY’RE THE DEVIL!!”
It's fascinating seeing how different just one generational gap is, isn't it?
Ireland is a great place to Rawdog GILFs
I enjoyed this and subscribed. You can tell the interviewer is quite immature (not in a childish way, more in a novice sense) about how she goes about asking people questions. I think that’s actually one of the things that makes this authentic. Like the way they approach that nun was quite unprofessional and (for lack of a better term) aggressive, even though that was clearly not the interviewer’s intention. Very well done overall. Brings me back to media studies.
Can’t wait to see more of these gems.
My son got a bicycle for his birthday, but I think it's to dangerous for him to ride it. That's why I refuse to get him a helmet. This way I know for sure he won't use it.
there’s an abundance of helmets and they’re easily acquirable, and we’re always taught to wear helmets… yet overwhelmingly boys still do not wear them when deciding to ride their bikes.
Why? Because simply throwing a helmet at your son will not fill the void of your failed parenting and failed, degenerate, impulsive, sick society.
but of course, you don’t actually care about this issue, as hospitals can fix a cracked head… or crack your unborn grandchildren’s heads in an abortion.
@@meganaxelia And yet, even less people would wear helmets if they weren't available for purchase..
@@Ravi-fx6vf
they’ve been available to purchase everywhere for decades, even out given free, taught in every school - and you still fail, they aren’t being worn by a significant amount of people. what’s next? surgically attach helmets?
at what point to Gen X, boomer, late millennial parents just admit their liberalism has failed and caused extreme societal degeneracy.
@@meganaxelia I'm not sure where you're going with this. On one hand you say its bad that not enough people are wearing them, on the other you want to restrict their access to it? Makes zero sense.
Having said that, STDs and teenage pregnancies are much lower these days than back in the day (including time of that video)
@@Ravi-fx6vf
No, you’re misunderstanding my stance:
I’m saying you’re all morally bankrupt and it’s scary how oblivious you are to it. You’re completely rotting our societies.
Contraception couldn’t be anymore accessible and ‘sex education’ is hounded at children from a young age, up until our teenage years by schools, the media and on top of parental guidance for most of us.
Yet, STDs and unwanted pregnancies are HIGHER than they have ever been in history - (just appeased/guised by the ability to treat the diseases and abortion of unborn children).
So what’s your’s and everyone else’s response to this issue? It is straw-manning and doubling-down. Apparently we should throw MORE condoms in peoples faces, do MORE abortions, do MORE ‘sex education’ classes. What’s next after it obviously doesn’t work? Teach young people sodomy in school to stop unwanted pregnancy? Like I said, you’re all morally bankrupt.
The rise of liberalism/progressivism sparked the trivialisation and de-root of sex from love, sanctity, marriage and parental-bonding. Hyper-sexualisation, objectification and fetishisation has spread across our cultures. The issue was exacerbated and allowed by the introduction of contraception/abortion.
Thus, you’ve bred impulsive, degenerate generations of people which do impulsive, degenerate things… like have unprotected, frivolous, meaningless, hedonistic sex.
The solution to this matter is not ‘black and white’ or simple. We have to spark a revolt cultural-shift in our societies. A great start would be the complete ban or demonetisation of pornographic content, strip clubs, etc. We need to re-introducing healthy relationships, perceptions of each other and behaviour. That’s just the first step… this will be a battle of attrition and mostly to save the future generations from turning into us.
Eventually contraception and abortion would be available but irrelevant/rare in use (as it was always meant to be).
I was 5 this time , lived in moyross , it's nice to have a piece of that past that will never be again
"They're not mature enough to use condoms and have sex, they should have unprotected even MORE dangerous sex!"
Is essentially the message coming across.
Man the 2 dudes at 7:20 are interesting. The dude on the left quietly judging his friend but also completely accepting his viewpoint. I wonder if they're still mates.
I'm from croom and the two are still alive
This is fantastic footage, and familiar scenes and faces to those of us who were teenagers at that time. Thank you for sharing it.
This is glorious! Brilliant array of characters! God bless the people of Limerick!
What a great find. Thank you for putting this together.
Thanks for the upload. Fascinating to see Limerick in 1991 I was a young teenager then. You should approach RTE with this footage.
13:41 The confident lady in the Mk1 Fiesta was way ahead of the times and the Nun's reluctance to speak says it all. Perfect Zeitgeist of the times and the Church State separation.
Pretty sure she was English, so in terms of social policy views so would most English have been in comparison.
@@lorcansnow2111 No I'd be confident she is a lady from the locality
Also something to point out to the younger viewers out there - cameras or video recording equipment were rare to see outside of tv stations using them. Mainly because video camera were expensive, big and heavy. So that’s why people were like “oh shit!” And scarpering like the old lady in the shop and the nun.
This is fascinating to watch; and as usual, the younger people interviewed seem to have more intelligence and articulation than some of the older interviewees who say that 'they're too young and uneducated etc'. Since we know that one doesn't need an appointment to visit a chemist; have you thought about contacting RTE? I'm from England so I don't know what sort of if any political leaning this channel has but if it's supposed to be neutral. I really think this video has significant historical value and if they have archivists, they might be able to make sure this video is archived for posterity. Please let me know if you do decide to try to get this archived in any way. If this has only been seen by your family members and a few hundred of us on youtube I think it's quite sad!
@Jack_Tisson Condoms are not at fault for the falling birth rate. People will have as many kids as people want to have, regardless of the existence of condoms.
@Jack_Tisson you don't really think at all, do you?
@Jack_Tisson So you’ve never actually lived in Ireland yourself, have you?
@Jack_Tisson people of old times needed to have many children because of how easily they died from disease or accident. Example would be how Julius Ceasar's sons all died in young age.
Now in the modern era, where the health care have become more available and better.. You can make sure your child don't die that easily. Thus to have many children is not needed.
Besides, the world population has become too large in my opinion. I don't think the planet can sustain too many of us.
We are talking about: 1) Transforming another forest into farmland, 2) Diverting water from lakes and rivers to our cities, 3) Managing the polution from our power plants and factories
@Jack_Tisson you’d rather ireland be a nation of unwanted accidents?
Aside from the political commentary, this is actually a great snapshot of what life in Ireland was like during the 90s.
Feels like the Church had a mob type control of people afriad to even voice opinions.
Amazing how some people are so hostile towards the idea that they don't even want to explain why they're against it
It’s amazing this was about 30 years ago. Ireland has changed dramatically. It’s funny how little clips in time like this can show us how far we’ve come.
"how far we have come..." towards nihilism, consumerism and declining birthrates, the end of the society
@@JohnCenaFan6298 In fairness that happened at an alarming pace in the last 5 years.
I love watching these old interviews/videos, there is something special about it
I especially like paying attention to the fashion, vehicles, buildings and mannerisms
It's quite a frightening example of what happens when the church has power over the law.
Literally not a day goes by where I don't see proof vindicating Humanae Vitae.
Oh absolutely
Young guys. “Yes I buy condoms”. Young girls. “Nooooo”. 😂😂
I thought there was quite an equal mix
Wait no, loads of girls said yes??
This is the content youtube is actually made for.
I feel sorry for the interviewer , many people were aggressive to her.
I don't think you understand the word aggressive 😳
yeah but when they said no they dont want to talk she’d keep at them and ask why they dont want to, nobody really even got agressive they just walked away
@@Sophie-lv6so thanks for clarification
@@theeggtimertictic1136some of them were a bit mean
its been 32 years id imagine shes gotten over it.
All I see is absolute fear in many of the older people’s faces. So sad 😢
It's true, how sad
id imagine that generation is gone after 32 years.
Seeing the footage of the guys at around 19:42 also just seemed to highlight other issues which may have been going on. I don't know what 'Cromadh/Croom' is like now but it didn't look like a thriving town with opportunities. As I said I think this is historical footage which in a few hundred years when we are all gone will be valuable.
Croom never truly amounted to anything. It was Bypassed
@@shanksnag9359 Sad as F, the worst thing is that this never got to TV to show what a poor state Croom was in.
There was f all to do in a lot of those small towns. Economically Ireland has grown but we have lost a lot culturally and spiritually in my opinion.
Apparently, everyone in Ireland is either 16 or 97 years old.
yea wtf i guess all the 30 year olds were at work
I remember back in my hometown in the Philippines, early 2000s. You can buy condom but in a very discreet way. You should whisper the item to the cashier. I had seen many men trembling while buying condoms...LOL
They are now available for free here
Good morning miss
Can I help you son?
Sixteen today
And up for fun
I'm a big boy now
Or so they say
So if you'll serve
I'll be on my way
Box of balloons
With the feather-light touch
Pack of party-poppers
That pop in the night
A toothbrush and hairspray
Plastic grin
Miss Clay on all corners
Has just walked in
...
:)
@Mat Sci it's from a music hit by Madness titled 'House of Fun'
they asked a nun in the full nun uniform and everything 😂😂😂😂
Uniform XD
@@ate_a_radio
Yeah. I chucked at the use of that word too. We all know the correct term would be cult attire. Pfff, uniform....
She of any of them should have something to say!
It's not uniform, it's nun skin's mod pack.
Interesting look back and hearing peoples views back then , thank you
Fascinating. Thank you for your work in producing this.
That was a weird nostalgic experience. That's the soundscape of the Limerick I remember from growing up.
As for the interviews, I think they would have had more luck talking to some of the older people without sticking a camera in their face from the start. Some people are shy and just want to get through their day quietly. The experience of somebody coming straight up to you pointing a camera at you is that it's rude, to some people, like an ambush or attack.
If somebody holds a view that they know the tide of public opinion is turning against, especially if they're quiet people, the last thing you want if you want them to feel comfortable to share their opinion is to get them on the defensive from the get go
Little catholic old ladies don't wanna hear about it ;(( I don't think the issue was having a camera person there as street interviewing was kinda popular before this time period due to now random people having cameras. It's just the religious boundaries that are putting off the old people and you can tell, these are women who would have been raised in the age where if you had a baby out of wedlock, it was taken away and you were put through a womens home to teach you about god and not having babies outside of wedlock. No choice, your baby gone and you becoming a nun. I think having people break the idea that you can just fuck with no consequences is probably terrifying to these older people as they'll just think the countries going downhill, it goes against everything they were raised.
If you look at street interviews from this time period or earlier, like the 70's, street interviewing someone EVEN if they disagreed with the interviewer never had people running from the camera, people liked cameras. It's not like now.
Religion is bad ong
@@orangeoog1766
Yup. You could tell most of them only got defensive once they knew the topic. They asked what the questions were about and once the condom word came up they ran away. It was very telling with the chemists. It wasn't the camera, or that they were being asked questions, it was the topic of the questions in particular.
I honestly only clicked because the thumbnail screamed Harry Potter vibes at me. Fascinating video, love the presenter!
The collapse in teenage pregnancies says thank you.
Many marriages were shotgun marriages, which means many marriages didn't happen and the child that made the marriage was not born nor any of the siblings that would've joined her/him. This has happened throughout the west and consequently we are now importing the children we didn't have at such a rate that many countries are currently predicted to become minority majority countries!
@@bebd9665 I agree with most things but what the fuck does race have to do with anything lol
love that last lady, she is so well spoken and sounds so intelligent and compassionate. hope shes doing well wherever she is
This is excellent thanks for posting
I was in this video. Lol what a blast from the past.
timestamp?
ur under arrest
@@buy-gbl-online no
Which one were ya?
Bet you were the dude on the left @ 19:55. 😁
"Like what? I've to go to mass." Classic.
i hope she kept on as a reporter she’s good ❤
The energy of the girls at 12:39 is everything 💀🤣💀🤣 pure honesty
Everyone should read the description. It’s great. Thanks for uploading this ✌️
This was 31 years ago, just let that sink in
Yes. Time passes. I too was once young.
Shit I think it's rising out for me chief
Well done! Straight forward questions and answers from ordinary people!
I love it when young Irish people think for themselves - such a 180 from the elders colonised by state religion
Lol. The woke brigade are the most feeble minded conformist morons in the history of the world.
The culture of Ireland is in rapid decay. Fool.
@@j.knight9335 how?
@@aleccastro4761 Total rejection of God, complete embrace of nihilism, mental health crisis, familial breakdown, sexual degeneration, rapid expansion of drug use. Need I go on?
@@j.knight9335 all of that stuff (aside from drug use) applies to the behaviour of many many catholic priests (*in my experience - not saying your experience is the same).
So I'm happy for the young people of Ireland that at least now they get to choose what shape and form their rejection of god, embracing of nihilism, & sexual degeneration etc comes from..
Very interesting. I moved to Limerick in 1993 and it's interesting how the city/rural attitudes seem very different about the topic and the young people are quite articulate and most are definite about their views. I love the style of filmmaking and very well done for such a young age too!
What were people so afraid of talking for? Some of these responses are as if interviewer was chasing them with a knife.
Back in the day people were more private in comparison to today where people like the attention
@@anthonym3351 I mean, okkkk, but… I’m 51. I was 20 years when this video was made and I recall that condoms weren’t controversial to talk about then. Maybe kids still giggled and acted weird, but adults were not afraid of the topic. I even lived in the deep South at the time and it wasn’t so weird that we super freaked out and ran into a back room. Plus, they were already being sold in the US everywhere.
And is discussing the access to safe sex something that’s done for attention? That seems hyperbolic.
@@paigeherrin29 Ireland was behind the times and it was also a big political issue. But even today older Irish people wouldn't be too fond of being on camera especially in comparison to Americans
@@paigeherrin29 I have to agree with you. I'm 73. I can remember a girl who worked part time in our class laughed about the time an adult came into her drug store and asked her where he would find the Sheiks (a brand of condom). She yelled across the drug store to the druggist, "Hey, Joe, Where are the Sheiks?" She didn't know what they were or she wouldn't have yelled her question out in a crowded drug store. LOLOL! The poor customer. That was in about 1966. I think by 1992, teenagers in Ontario would all know what a Sheik was. They are sold in drug stores here and, probably, in bars out of vending machines, but I'm not sure about that. We were given a rudimentary sex education in grade 12 here in 1966. The phys ed teacher told us that she could get in trouble for her efforts because sex education wasn't part of the curriculum. She and her husband were friends with the principal and his wife so she probably felt pretty safe and must have had the principal's tacit approval. It was a pretty blasé curriculum. No mention of homosexuality at all. We were even given to read a preprint from the Reader's Digest called "The Case for Chastity". I remember our English teacher let us debate the issue of abortion and the phys ed teacher came and saw our presentation. I don't remember who thought up the topic: was it a student or was it the English teacher? It certainly wasn't the phys ed teacher. I don't think it was the English teacher. He was fired by the end of year 2 though. I never knew why. He did some things that wouldn't be allowed today like having an affair with a student, but he later married her and had children with her. He was just a little too out there for staid, old Kingston, Ontario, I guess. A University of Toronto graduate. . . It's hard to believe this is 1992. I taught school in Newfoundland and Labrador in the 1970s. It has a huge Irish influence, but I got birth control pills there from doctors and I wasn't married at the time. I imagine condoms were sold in the drug stores. I do recall the principal of the Fogo Island High School for some reason had a discussion that centred around how sex education should be presented and he wanted to invite the clergy (Protestant and Roman Catholic) to present the topic. I don't think he was serious about talking about sex though. He just wanted to lead the teachers in a lively discussion or something. The curriculum would have to have come down from the Dept of Education. As far as I know, there was no official sex education curriculum. These Irish students all seem to know what a condom is though by 1992. I'm not sure the Fogo Island high school students would have known what one looked like.
No phones around. People walking around with a camera was a pretty new thing compared to now.
That was just before the Celtic Tiger, well before the abuse scandals that unraveled the catholic church and the catholic institutions, and well before also the NI Good Friday Agreement. These events among others I'm sure were to change many of the cultural norms that existed in the Republic of Ireland since the foundation of the State aka 1926. So the answers from the young are what I would, and also the answers from the older people are what I would expect in 1991.
I never heard "Celtic Tiger" before, was that just the downfall of christianities Power over ireland
@@JazzyFunkaHolicThis may be a late reply! The Celtic Tiger refers to the massive foreign investment and economic boom in the 1990s to 2000’s that suddenly slowed before stopping in 2008 due to the crash. The Irish Economy lost most of its debt, and most peoples salaries tripled over a decade before the crash hit and ruined the economy.
As of 2022, the economy has recovered from 2008, but yet again ruined by covid.
Overall the reason regarding the church why this is important is because Irish people became more well off and started getting foreign viewpoints much more than they had in a long time, meaning that the church’s influence wasn’t as big. People did not need the hands out of the church anymore or needed to cling to it. So, naturally people started to waiver, and when some big scandals hit it was the nail to the coffin.
How ridiculous - can marry at 16 but not allowed to buy condoms!
Thats awesome, we should go back to it!
@@cheistiandunn7988 We shouldn't have abandoned the many good values we had
More people, more workers to make them money therefore condoms are bad
@@dan812 I dunno if you've ever heard of STI's or STD's ? Why would you go back to not having condoms avaliable
@@xxxvivzxxx Maybe people should stick to one partner and commit to marriage with them? All the evidence shows the lower the partner count the more stable marriages are on average. Maybe you're not as clever as you think you are Viv?
Amazing video. 24:15 the voice of reason.
12:51 - Why do you think 16 year-olds should be able to buy condoms? For the sex!
Nice to see someone being unabashedly honest.
Watching this made me realise why the government target young people with information, older generations are so set in their ways to budge, it must take years to breed out each round of legislation they bring in
Your comment was spot on and quite frankly the truth for each generation. This fact you pointed out plays through all aspects of our society around the world. Douglas
@@douglasbergkvist6534 thanks Douglas! You are very correct, It’s hard to change narratives among generations you have engineered certain beliefs into. If you start with the youth their minds haven’t been exposed to too much yet so they are open to be trained into any mindset put before them. As a collective generation it becomes powerful. As they age and separate from their peers it’s hard to push anything new. But that’s where the BBC come in I suppose 😂
To quote John Cooper Clark, "In Ireland, people used to smuggle in condoms in bags of heroin'.
Legend 😂
Lets be honest: condoms should absolutely not be allowed for anyone under 16. It is illegal to have sex or be married under 16, so condoms should not be used by or sold to children under 16.
Furthermore, it is illegal to drive until 16. Seatbelts therefore should absolutely not be available to or used by children under 16. Why would you possibly require a seatbelt, if you're not allowed to drive?
Had me in the first half ngl
😂😂😂😂😂 I was worried for a sec there😅😅
Lmao this comment
5:37 - The immigrant guy is more open-minded, and with valid reasons like STD and AIDS!
And so are all the young people! Kudos to them!
(Older people were so rude too!)
They were told their wholes life's it was unholy and wrong.. I don't blame them tbh..
How do you know he is an immigrant?
Fascinating! Thanks for this.
The past truly is a foreign country
If you're laughing at them now, remember that young people 30-40 years into the future will be laughing at what we are thinking and discussing nowadays.
A rare glimpse of a young Mrs Doyle ... from FARTHER TED....in her school uniform...
Proper two way driving system unlike the city now, can't get a bicycle up o connell street
I love the gentle Irish accents ... Before we were had Americanised accents
Ahahah so true
Hahaha what are you talking about , go to Limerick today
@@robertmoray988 That's good 👍
@@yarnednomady5535 I live on the South East coast ... It's more threatened there ☺️
Why.. Its just an accent?
The girl at 8.50 cackling away mad was like a young Mrs Doyle. Brilliant! 😂
Religious connotations aside... AIDS had really gained a seriously scary foothold at the time (late 80's - early 90's) yet "testing" wasn't advanced enough to produce the fast results we see in 2022.... So supposing, if you and your Mrs happen to be the "grandest" Catholics to ever exist... You got married at 16 and consumated the marriage (which is actually a legal requirement of the procedure of marriage) you could still be effected by a nasty STD... Maybe one partner had a traumatic incident in there early years and were treated by a promiscuous Dr who happened to have a cut on his finger that day 🙄😤😤😤 not to mention the Priest that messed around with you who just happen to have dipped more people than the local farmer has dipped sheep.....
Yes I know one widow who’s husband was infected with AIDS during a blood transfusion in the 1980’s. Absolutely tragic.
Bryce Courtney’s book April’s Fools Day is the story of his sons life and death from contracting AIDS in the same way.
I would really like to see those teenager's opinions now there in there 50's.
Man I just realized 16 year olds are kids and it's actually kind of weird to have sex at that age. That being said, some of them are basically more mature than some adults so I can't say that about all of them.
Yes, but if they have sex, it’s a very good idea to use protection. If sex is weird, then surely being a parent is worse:)
@@ate_a_radio i think you're right. Just because they can buy condoms doesn't mean that they WILL have sex, just means that if they really will have, they will avoid get pregnant or AIDS.
I'm disappointed nobody gave their answer in the form of a Limerick.
Times have definitely changed
Times didn't change.? Change was brought about to strip lrish people of their culture and identity by population replacement and everything else in between by the criminal gang in the dail
In some ways they have, in some ways they haven't. People might not turn away today if you ask them whether teenagers can buy condoms or not, but are likely to turn away now if you ask them what is a woman
For the worse
@@PC.NickRowan a female human being
@@PC.NickRowan Him/He and She/Her? :-D
Brilliant piece of work ...
This is the Ireland I Left in 1980's and I am Staggered to see an Indian Gentleman making the Sensible Comment of " Yes to stop HIV/Aids " No mention of Hepatitis been Rampant among Drug Users and Not a Mention of Sexual Health and the Responsibilities of a Young Nation with a Higher amount of Young People , And Like Me Gay People who where Discriminated by Irish Government and Society and All Changed Now Thanks to Proper Legislation at Last saw the Demise of the Banana Republic as I used to Call it .
It's crazy to look back isn't it Derek ? but it really wasn't that long ago, I'm from an Irish family, I grew up in England and I remember getting in trouble at my comprehensive school ( Catholic obviously ) for making the same type of comment about hiv, aids and hep c, and how wrong and backward it was that we were being taught that Contraception was wrong( in the mid 90s), I'm so thankful Ireland has changed but it still has a long way to go. The Catholic Church's grip is loosening every week and for that I'm grateful. 🇮🇪💚😉
@@redroseofsummer2979 True.....but they haven't gone away, you know....
On the surface it all seems nice and liberal and free. But, if you make condoms available to 16 year olds as a societal norm, then they will assume that having sex is not only allowed but recognised as normal. This of course leads to two things: unwanted pregnancies or worse, the deliberate killing of the unborn human. Sadly, free choice, liberalised attitudes towards sex (i.e. that there are no moral ends to sex but rather just pleasure, pleasing others, intimacy, stress relief, escape, or self-validation etc) is leading the human race down a dark road, and therefore marriage also becomes a casualty of this dark road and loses its principle end: the creation of new life. Ethics, and moral behaviour also prevents disease too!
@@DB-qw6xq we have known for ages that this isn’t true, and no better example exists than the US. You don’t have to be any particular age to buy condoms in any US state. Any teenager can buy them. However, there’s a vast difference in how sex education is taught, as it varies by state. Sex education is not mandatory in states like Alabama and Arkansas. States like Massachusetts and New Jersey have excellent sex education programs. The rates of teen sex are exactly the same in all these states, as kids are kids, and kids are going to have sex regardless of upbringing, education, or culture. However, teen pregnancy rates and Highschool dropout rates are several times higher in the states where teens aren’t even taught about condoms, where to get them, and how to use them. They have sex anyway, and they do it unprotected. It’s the girls who have to carry the brunt of the shame, the damage to her life, career, and education. She’s the one who has to carry the consequences of her “sin” in her body for everyone to see. She deals with the stigma, while the boy who got her pregnant sometimes won’t bear any responsibility at all. This is a human rights issue. No child’s education should be sacrificed because she chose to have sex.
@@DB-qw6xq teenagers will have sex regardless, all you're doing is encouraging things like back alley abortions. Proper sex education goes a lot further for responsible behaviour than pretending the issue doesn't exist
Thanks for posting.
the three interviews from 9:45 made me chuckle
at 4:40 the redhead boy is looking at the girl answering questions in the most precious way
"do you think they sshould be allowed?"
"no?"
"why not?"
*WINDOWS SHUTTING DOWN SOUND*
Isn't it mad how so many people got uncomfortable being on camera, and today it's such a normal thing. It's also no suprise to me that it was mostly elderly people who were against the issue. Goes to show the grip the church had on our beautiful country for so long.
lmao there was another old video where someone said how before people were comfortable being on camera and now they are not
I will pray for you sinner
@@oldmate99 And I'd love to know what this so called sin is, especially when you take into consideration I didn't commit any sin.
@@imahappycamper2022 it's ok, you have now been saved... thanks me later
@@oldmate99 And it's a pity so many psych wards have been shut down so you can't be saved.
The 16 year olds in this video are 47 today
Crazyyy
Yikes that’s me @ 2:09
How has your life journey been the past 31 years ?
That response was so sweet
Oh wow no way😂😊
As someone who works in a store, it is a bit embarrassing for people to have to ask for condoms over the counter, they are over £5 so there's the theft issue but its awkward because you're basically announcing to the cashier that you're having sex and need emergency protection. it should really be on the shelves so people can buy it at their own discretion
Nowadays, over Ireland and indeed the UK, they can be out on the shelves and in the majority of places are
Ireland was so thick even when I was a baby. I'm so happy to be an Irish citizen in a massively different Ireland
I found that jumping into a bunch of nettles was the best birth control method of all
For me it's turning the light on.
kinky
For me it’s my face
1:54 Seems absolutely mad that there would even be any legal age to purchase condoms, let alone it being 18. It’s as if they were trying to promote teen pregnancy as much as possible.
I think they kept contraception banned as means to up the population honestly
I know right!! Whilst claiming that that's what they're fighting against
@@dean1111 yeah well the church doesn't want to prevent pregnancies, they want to be able to regulate people's most private lives, and therefore getting more powerful. If you can even control people's minds in the bedroom, then you're set to control the rest of their lives too. Same goes with republicans in the US
And just like that 1990's film footage looks like 1920's footage did to us when we were kids!!
As a young person now, I can’t imagine this being normal quality footage 😂😂
@@ate_a_radio It never seems crappy at the time but it's remarkable how things change!!
Were the Magdalene laundries still operating during this time?
No
They stopped in the 60s
The last Magdalene laundry was closed in 1994.
Not in the 60’s
@@Pheluv were the Magdalene laundries still punishing young women for things like being pregnant outside of marriage or being deemed too pretty or too flirtatious or for getting sexually abused after the 70s?
@@Pheluv it wasn’t being used as a laundry for fallen women in the 90s so you’re wrong
That year Irish Planning Association were fined for seeling condoms.
The smartest of the lot.
Fuck I misread the title and spent give minutes waiting for poetry about condoms.
😂😂
"Because AIDS is coming out" dude thinking they're rolling disease out like it's a new movie. 💀
AIDS is just one of gods experiments. We are basically lab rats
@@irgendeinname9256
God doesn't need to "experiment" he's omnipotent and therefore knows the outcome of everything.