Chess Opening: Ponziani Opening
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 เม.ย. 2011
- The Ponziani Opening starts with 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 as white looks to control the center of the board with d4 thrust. Black has many different options to defend but has to be careful as there are many traps that he can fall into.
Although many find this to be inferior to both the Ruy Lopez and the Italian Game, it has many exciting lines that give white a great game.
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Imagine creating a game that has so well stood the test of time as Chess.
A simple board, yet a brilliant game.
I mean, they haven't patched the game since 1600 or something...
Also they should nerf the Queen, and buff the knight...also the pawn is a bit broken
@@sebastianshandy658 They did update the game and mod it, but people prefer the original one.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chess_variants
They did refute a bunch of popular openings from the past, i would see that as patch and upgrades
They should also add some expansions , the world seems very limiting.
@@hdcloud9352 Nah, that's just the meta changing
I remember when I once captured en Croissant, and it cost me a cappucino. Then I realized it was a Ponziani scheme.
John Bond lmao
Mmmmm croissant,,, ahhhhh.
Kinda your fault.. you should always check mate
@@ksportz66 ,
@@mxgma989
what sux about being such a crappy chess player (myself and the people I play against) is that u can study the openings all you want but you won't be able to play them because your opponent is not going to respond with the necessary moves, AND, if he does it means he a bleep of a lot better chess player than me and is going to crush me as soon as i'm all out of memorized opening moves lol
+Michael Caron memorising the moves is not all you can do with your opening study. Recognizing patterns and understanding the philosophy behind different types of openings matter just as much. Once the middle part of the game begins to takes place you're on you're own, that's true but it'll be easier to find logical squares for your pieces and to know when to push a pawn or not if you're familiar with a few openings. Studying an opening from both colours' points of view might also be helpful. I'm quite a shitty player myself, but being aware of opening traps and surprising opening moves has already helped me in the past. To avoid better opening knoledge by my opponents I prefer to play transposable openings like the Larsen's (1.b3) and Nimzowitsch defense (1. ...Nc6) or even offbeat and totally unsound openings like for exemple Colorado gambit or Englund gambit, depending on my opponent's strength of course. greetings from Belgium
TinUser
Absolutely true, therefor a strong memory is important.
lol I know
Don't play the game, play the board. you can start out with a plan set but you always have to be able to adjust. Don't be afraid to improvise you may surprise yourself or your opponent.
Well if you're sure your opponent is much better than you, there's not much you can do anyway.
It should really be called the pawnziani opening
that's what Levy calls it lol 😂
Why would anyone play the ponziani opening? I can't believe you made this video.
+NakedKing Read the description, you can lay traps for player sunder 2000 easily - also 1:30 is a comment just for you. He actually says "dont leave a comment saying why would you make video about it?" and then explains it.
+Vyas Anand yes, i was being sarcastic...
NakedKing I got that late lol
everybody makes mistakes ;) *****
+NakedKing lol
Apparently, every move in this opening is "very, very..." something. "Very, very sharp", or "very, very agressive". And from any given position, white can have a "very, very good game". Not just good, or even very good, but very VERY good.
I thought this was a very very good video.
LMFAO this took me out
A very very astute assessment...
Very very funny
Verily.
5:00 : 4...nxe4
7:00: 5...nb8
13:40: 5...ne7
19:00: 4...exd4
22:37: 4...d5
26:20: 3....d5
Tysm!
Hey, I wanted to say thank you for all of these videos. I have been playing the same group of people for 3 or 4 years now. Having a few options on openings helps keep the games fresh. Your videos have helped improve my game immensely! Thanks again.
I ask "What would Kevin do?" every game I play. Lol. Love your videos, Kevin!
"I want to make sure we cover both of those options" 19:21
He forgot the Nd5 variation -_-
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Yes
Still not complete yet
Your opening videos are easily the best on TH-cam imo. You get right to the point whereas others spend too much time talking to themselves.
Keep it up
amazing job kevin truly is the best pnziani vid out there i have seen so far keep up the good work! :D
@paulandlesson I recommend Fritz 12. I will be having a contest in a few days and will actually be giving away 2 copies. Stay Tuned.
this channel is amazing! i'm learning a lot! thanks for make this videos man!
Hey Kevin your chess videos are the best keep at it I learnt so much from you. Your videos alone brought my chess rating up from a 800~900 player to a 1100 ~1200 player your the best
Really good explanation of this opening - I learned a lot!
this opening gave me a lot of success with white and black. thank you
After 10 years still the best video on ponziani
Thanks for all of the videos you do!
Thanks Kevin, your videos are great. Keep making them!
Great comments on different variations of this opening with full knowledge about play that we can do in this opening. You are awesome chess teacher, congratulations.
Great video. Great opening. Thanks so much for posting these.
Wow, I just got overloaded on variations!
This is the best commentator. He explains great and you can understand all about the openings.
thank you for getting up this video that I asked you for, it helped a lot
Indeed the most comprehensive Ponziani opening video. Thanks
So basically, (from this and some other reading) sounds like this is an old opening that is just not really studied much, so it's potential lies in that fact, and that it really is best against beginners who are more prone to make mistakes. If anyone wants to correct me please do, but seems this is really best when the opponent makes mistakes, though this does provide many traps to lure them into. I will be sure to keep this in mind! Even if it's best against more novice players/needs some mistakes
11 years later and it’s still the best
Thanks alot m8, this is the most imba opening i ever seen, have used it alot and every time my openent end up loosing his qween :D keep it up man
A nice comprehensive overview of an opening with so many traps. Kevin is a natural teacher who keeps our attention. I wish Kevin would identify himself within the TH-cam text, so we more easily find his teachings.
i quit watching your videos for a while, not on purpose...but just found some other channels etc.
But now, after watching this, i'm like "ooooh that was why i watched kevin from thechesswebsite".. because your videos and explanations are very very open-minded, clear, very pleasing to watch and therefore its easier to gather information! Keep up the good work this is one of a kind job!
PS: I really would like you to do play on any chess website, against random opponents. Would be nice to watch!
Thank you. Enjoyed your analysis.
I've been a correspondence player for nearly 40 years, and in the last 10 or so years I turned to the Ponziani when playing White in an attempt from getting away from the highly-analysed variations of the major king pawn openings.
Very awesome thank you for doing these!
The nice thing about chess is that even after 10 years some stuff still holds up very well
Or 100s
Very comprehensive. love it!
At 7:09, you say to play Be3 however a strong counterattack is Bc5 and you are forced to capture because if you don't and you choose to capture the pawn on e5, black trades bishops and once you take back with the f pawn. Black has Qh4 and has a slight advantage and either way, if you don't move the knight Bc5 is keeping black in the game and Be3 is deemed a mistake by the engine and the best move for white is actually the more natural Bd3 developing and attacking the knight.
@SoraOwnsAll8745 great call. If g6, black loses more material with Qxe5+, forking the rook on h8, but you are correct he could play g6. Thanks for pointing that out. I have made a notation in the video.
If you've never heard of en passant, you probably didn't go to the trouble to watch a 1/2 hour video on an obscure opening like this one, lol.
+jvc113 lol precisely my thought here too :D
@chess1941 I have your book and I love it! So glad someone made a book about the ponziani.
So thoroughly explained each possibility, excellent!
Glad you liked it
I love this opening
8:35 can u not see the pawn
Move the pawn, you lose the rook in two. It goes like this. Pawn G6. Queen E5 check. bishop/queen E2. Queen h8 takes the rook.
@@victortodoran1828 thank you
Only took 9 years to get a response lol
@@bobbyflay2822 The funny thing is, I just saw this video today, and I was gonna reply. But someone's already got it covered.
@@victortodoran1828 e7*
Great video kevin, amazing job!
i've been playing this opening in blitz a lot lately. and thanks for the video. i wasnt familiar with the opening i just played it randomely in bullet games. thanks for the informationl
The only time where I cleared up my table:
When Kevin told me to get my chessboard out LOL:)
GREAT VIDEO! I look forward for when i watch your sicilian videos if they are the same quality as this
I love you and chessnetwork just because of the audible voice :3
in 19.10 you said you're gonna cover 2 option one is knight to e4 and knight to d5. but you havent cover knight to d5 option
Stefannus Christian BUMP!
@@jordancheatham exactly!
Still hasn't covered it
Watching this video gave me an edge! I didn't actually get to play the Ponziani (white replied 1.e4 with b6), but studying the openings is a vital part of development!
I have been using this method without knowing what it is in term of name... One of my favorite line... it's true that it's a bit weird opening but I managed to hook many players w/ high rank already but somehow It has such a backfire against other situations... Awesome Opening...
Great video! It's about time I change my good ole Ruy Lopez opening for something more creative. Thanks a bunch.
Must say really great vids~ basically all of them! Really enjoy and learn from them.
As for me im kinda into bird's opening lately. That videao you have already made for it is kinda short. Very little players are familiar with this oppening, that's why i have had tons of easy wins, but still i feel that there is something more. It would be cool if you could make a bit deeper analasys on the Bird's opening!
Very nice the explanation of the openings. I just started to learn openings, and I would like to ask if you have the pgn file of each opening that you explain on the video so we can study it and learn it. And in case that you don't have it how we can do it?
Great tips! Thanks for share.
I like that this opening has Lots of traps. Still my favorite opening is the Fried Liver Attack, another opening with Tons of traps.👍
At 19:19 you said that the knight can either go to d5 or e4. You said you would go over both of these options, and you did go over a couple lines after Ne4, but I can't find where you discuss what happens if Nd5.
This is a great opening. I haven't seen it before.
however, it is not my first choice.
I prefer to use this opening for white, I don't know if it has a name or not: pd4 bf4 Nc3 Nf3 pe3 bd3 (or d4 if available) I think this provides attack possibilities, a good defense, and control of the center of the board.
@Creapieo
Thanks for the tip on moving Qb3! after Nd5. I was wondering about that myself. I've played this a few times and I think 2 of the 3 times I saw Nd5 instead of Ne4.
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Another great video!
Transposing to the damiano defence, i love it when people do e4 e5 Nf3 f6
kevin, i'd love to see games that you've played
Kevin, loved the video!
One thing though you mentioned that black had the Nd5 option if he opens with the pawn capture but you didn't go over it, could another video explaining this move be done?
Thanks :)
Great video, very interesting opening indeed ! but... what happened with the line at 19:22 Nd5? Also as SirFlitwick said, the bishop to c5 is really common, any recommendations?
About time you made a video on this! lol
Wow, I love this opening! I like when I have some space. I play Alapin against Sicilian, but I haven't found anything I really like for e4-e5 except Italian, just because I also like tricky knights. I'm only worried about some of the later variations here. Maybe I'll play it vs people that haven't studied up as much.
At 27:00, I can see another reason not to do d3: after the exchange, Qxd1, white's king dangles in the open file.
At 28:44, what does white even do? Doesn't look too great to me.
Hi Kevin thanks for the video.I spent a lot of time on this opening recent days,analysing some variations.Definitely useful tool with a lot of traps. Some holes i should note in your video(i know u cant cover all the variations) but one interesting line i want to point out is in the main line after Nxe4 and white plays d5,black can play Bc5(threatening f2) If u guys encounter with this move - Best play goes :dxc6 Bxf2; Ke2 bxc6 and Qa4 with has 0.45 advantage.
@thechesswebsite Yeah, fritz is awesome. Though could you please do a video on the English defence; 1. d4, e6 2. c4, g6. I really like playing it, but there is barely any material on it so I don't really know many 'official' variations.
great video. used it vs lower players and it works....not much theory to know and people don't expect it so they get lost trying to defend
at 19:13 you mention two options. I see a lot of times Qe7 pinning that pawn. Probably not the best move blocking that bishop on f8 and any time white breaks the pin it could be troublesome for black, but I just thought it was worth mentioning. Very good in depth video by the way keep up the good work.
The Narrator: "At move 3 white has 3 options...Bb5, Bc4 & c3"
The Scotch Opening: "Am I a joke to you?"
3. Nc3: "Am I a joke to you??"
Everyone ever: "Yes, very much so"
@@kabirpeshawaria1703 IMO, the Four Knights Game is trash except for the Halloween gambit or maybe the Scotch variation. The Spanish or Italian variations are trash.
@SoraOwnsAll8745 I thought the same way too. That is until I see after g6, Qxe5+. If you noticed the g7 pawn is no longer protecting the rook on h8. After this move, black has to take care of the check and lose the rook for nothing.
@12kevdawg12 Take advantage of that! Just continue with d4 and get a tempo, forcing him to move his Bishop and you take control of the center
At 14:33 I prefer Nxf7 forking queen and rook. So he is forced to capture with the king, losing the castle right plus next move Qf3+ forks knight. King goes back, white takes, and white is "only" a pawn up, but controls the center plus black has lost his castling right. Then if black does not make the right move, you can still continue with the bishop line seen in the video. With the queen involved.
webprogramozás after Qf3+ black plays Nf6 blocking the check and saving the knight.
Hard to imagine the Ponziani being the most requested opening. Maybe it was trendy for some reason when this video came out.
@ysilv Or even better: if he blocks with the bishop, you could simply trade the bishops. The only sane move for black is to take back with the Qxd7, after which you can fork the knight and the rook with Q-d5.
Black can only put his Queen back on d8 or c8 and would lose two active pieces, falls behind 3 points in material and loses yet an other tempo after Qxe4+.
at 17.45 you can sacrifice the knight on f7 then proceed to move Qf3 check to fork the other knight, you will be up a pawn
Thanks! I've been trying this in a couple of online games - so far, I'm 1-0. In the line where black retreats his queen's knight to b1 on move 5, then plays 6......e6, you recommend 7. Bb5+, tying black up. But why not just 7. Qa4+, apparently snagging the knight on e4? I'm trying that in an online game now and I don't see the problem with it.
This is a really interesting opening. At move 5 after pawn d5, the best defense line from a computer is Bc5, threatening white on f2
Yeah then black gives up a piece to keep the king in the center really interesting line
Saw this and went SWEET. You sure do hook up your viewers. Thanks.
It is an opening to hunt on the knights ... Very impressive ... Kevin ...
5:30 pawn to d5, black can just ignore that and develop a bishop to c5, then after white takes black can take with with the bishop on f2. After white continues to take on b7, black can get the other bishop out on b7, great development.
Awesome explanation
At 32:03 instead of pawn to g4 for white I was looking at Qh5, Then black either has to move his king or try to block with the pawn on g6 but then white can exchange pawns and queens and black has just an isolated pawn on g6 and white has a knight that can't be easily kicked off of g5. I think that variation looks nice for white to me.
Willing to give this opening a try
Nice. Good luck and let me know how it goes.
"En passant" is French for "while passing". On the first move, a pawn can move one or two squares. If it passes an opponent's pawn by moving two squares then the pawn can be captured "en passant" - as he goes by. En passant is optional.
Could you make a video about mental stamina, because whenever I go to tournaments in the middle of the third or fourth round my brain just freezes an I go into meltdown.
Can you please do a video on the Budapest if you have not already done .
Kevin you re perfect man !!!
hi there,I have 2 additions to this video.
First is in the Nf6 d4 exd4 e5 variation, where black plays Nd5. This move is actually played a lot because poeple are scared of the square e4. after Nd5 I found a move that gives white a deffinite edge and that is Qb3! attacking the knight on d5. Black again has some options here, but most commonly played is Nce7 with the idea to play c6 later on. White here just captures the pawn on d4 and has a great space advantage and will probably win the game.
Nd4 or Ne5 we definetly wanna make sure we cover these options althought you did forgot explain! What are the variations for Ne5? great work btw!
Time stamps for the beginning of each section, say each initial move black could make after c3, would be super helpful
@Valendian2009 Sure, you could play Ruy Lopez or Italian Game, but the thing is, the Ponziani opening is not played a lot and he can get into a lot of traps.
After Nxe4, my opponent played Bc5 and I exchanged bishops. What would be the best way to counteract this move?
One of the best lines for black (on the main line which gives equal chances) is:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. e5 Nd5
Kevin, playing as black when white pushes pawn d4-d5 threatening knight could it be worth allowing him to take the knight? my thinking being it takes us out of line avoiding the rest of the openings, and it also gives us the chance of a good pawn center. I may be way off but is it possible this is a viable option? how might play go in that situation? love these videos man, pretty awesome
If black captures on d4 in the Nf6 variation and then plays Ne4, then he has to be really careful about dxd6/dxf6 e.p. followed by Nxd4 then f3, since the knight cannot move because of the pin on the king.
Best move for black is to gambit his knight at F2 as a response to D5. After king takes the knight, black is only a pawn down in material but can then continue with retreating his other knight to B8 and then play pawn to C8 to challenge the overextended white pawn. Then, for example queen B8 and there is a good counterplay for black.
Hi thechesswebsite,
Nice video, I use the ponziani sometimes in blitz games(it isn't played a lot as you said and the surprise effect can give you an advantage.0. I never saw the f5 idea , so that was very instructive.
thank you,
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