That is what happened to me too. Was a lukewarm Christian all of my life. Attended church but still living in sins and had no real relationship with God until God made Himself known to me and I was never the same again. The defining moment of my existence was when I had truly known that I'm loved by my Creator despite of my ignorance towards Him all of this while. I found everlasting inner peace and I'm filled with love for others. I feel like I'm the richest person in the universe even if I'm going to be disabled or homeless tomorrow. Again, I can never be the same again. My soul delights in His presence and I'm grateful to Jesus Christ for never giving up on me and lead me to the Father. Blessed are those who have not seen yet still believe.
Same here brother, I was a very religious catholic person and missed the whole POINT. I've been born again, I've been saved, my eyes have been opened....no more traditions, my salvation began at 27 yrs old and can never lose it, because its not about my pathetic good deeds , but about Jesus' power over my sins and death. I feel your joy ! God bless you brother.
Although I’m not Christian I too experienced something similar with the Creator as a child. I try to be a decent human a do what Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, Noah (Peace be upon them all) taught which was to love God with all your heart, and soul.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop He's there, old mate-right by your side. When things get a bit hairy He's holding your hand because He loves you and would like you to love Him and everyone around you. If you choose otherwise then that's up to you, but when you feel a bit low He'll be there holding you to His loving breast. It's what He does because He's ace. May he keep you and yours at this time of trouble, old son. You seem to be halfway there, so I won't lecture, but hang on to what you think and He will be there as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow.
Great film! Joseph Fiennes is an excellent actor and the history is so interesting indeed. In fact I can see myself through the eyes of the roman guy. He has to face something... no... Someone so bigger than him! He cannot understand, but he finally believes. A new man! Like me! I was an atheist, but now, no more. Oh my Master, I believe you, I love you so much! I am sorry for my poor English!
José, Thanks so much for your comment. It is really inspiring. I'm really happy that you found the Saviour in your heart and finally started to believe. Let your path be bright, filled with Christian love. May our Lord bless you.
Praise God for you Jose. When someone encounters the risen Jesus he can never be the same again. He Gives you new life,and more importantly , you become a true son of the the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
I had the privilege of seeing this in the theater. It's amazing on a large screen with that beautiful music. This movie is a nice speculation because it invites the viewer to be the tribune. Have an encounter with Jesus and you'll never be the same. Happy Holy Week!
Imagine if there was a man like this fictional character who witness Christ and decided to live his life according to Christ. He will be alone but even his solitude would not destroy him but it would serve a purpose to do the works of Christ. I believe that man/person will be or is us. That's the beauty of this scene. We too are Clavius. We will never be the same too.
Such a beautiful comment, Aaron. Thank you so much. I feel absolutely the same way. That's the meaning of all of it, isnt it, that we shall never be the same after meeting God's Son.
Yes my brother. I thought this way too. I am Clavius!!! I was an atheist for many years but The Beloved Master found me and called me. Now I belong to Him and what a wonderful and perfect Lord I have! I wish that all men and women know The Lord. Nothing is better!!!
He is coming very soon. The Bride must be ready for her Bridegroom for He is coming with the shout of the angel, the blow of the trumpet and His bride shall be caught up and He will gather His Bride and be in the Wedding Feast where the door will be shut and cannot be opened. Amen.
People wonder about those that refer to themselves as "Christians"! With few exceptions, we do not call ourselves "Roman Catholics, Catholics, Protestants, or anything else". WHAT "IS" a "Christian"? WHO "IS" a "Christian"? WATCH this man's intensity! His self-wonder and amazement when he says: "I Believe!" He then adds: "I Can Never Be The Same"! I personally had such an experience back in c. 1984. This 'Experience' is NOT necessarily needed to 'Believe' properly when experiencing the Required "Saving Faith" but it's a bonus! Often, this experience comes 'later' in the Walk. Suddenly, you stop and realize that 'you' isn't the 'you' that used to be and never will be again! This Realization or Discovery is filled with at least some amazement at this self-awareness. I'll add this also: For a person to REALLY come to the Understanding that nearly ALL his views and beliefs are either Wrong or way insufficient is labeled a "Paradigm Shift" of Life! That is, you've Learned Something that's turned the table over and a New Life must now start but Start inside your Old Existing Life that is common to Man. The same Job, family and people but it's NOT your Old Life at all! It's a wonderful and grand experience to really understand that the Living God really is your loving and always close watching and by Father! That there is Everlasting Peace between you and He because of What His Son has done for you personally on the Cross! That even yet uncommitted sins will not break this Safe and Everlasting Relationship with the Almighty.
Ken, thank you so much for this amazing comment. I'm really delighted of how you described the faith of Clavius, because me personally always saw these lines: "I can never be the same" as the most essential in the whole Christianity. Yes, total change of life, even though the circumstances stay the same. You become somehow the other person, because you find God and His Son in your heart, you find that He loved you to the point that He sacrificed The Son and "the tomb is empty" and He is promising everlasting life. What a discovery! and first time when I saw this movie, I wondered, why didn't Clavius become a Christian with Peter and other brothers? Why didn't he follow them? but then I realized, It's not about being anywhere with them, he indeed was preaching by his way of life, the new way of life he found, like he preached to this house's owner. He was a true Christian and he'd never ever be the same.... You are right, Ken. We don't call ourselves anything particular, I'm absolutely agree with you on this, but sometimes there are moments when I still wonder, why shouldn't there still be a fellowship of Christians somewhere in the world, brotherhood as it was in the first century, the ones that Clavius met, the people who love each other, don't do the things that God forbids, don't kills, don't hates and love God and please him in every way they can! and there are so many religions, so many denominations and we(personally, me) are stuck somewhere between, not knowing where to go, to whom to go, because we know that the way is one - The Christ - but still with no fellowship and not surrounding with spiritual people, with whom you'd be directly say: "Oh, here they are, the true Christians"!
@@coolgirltomka We are in the Church of Laodicea! I'm a Christian Scholar of 36+ years and I'm turning 70 in Nov. Yet, although I tried hard to fit in different Churches, I just kept running into to many sinful trouble-packing people both women and men that kept putting me to the test of patience and endurance while hindering any ministry I was already being roadblocked from. My point is that the Western Church is too fat and happy with too many uncalled and therefore unqualified 'Teachers' all yelling "Hey! Look over here!". Our churches are full of infant Christians all dirtying their diapers. It's a spiritual Nursery while the Pastors are busy building Empires they think are for God but are really edifices to themselves and wonderful Retirement Plans. Don't get me wrong, I'm a sinner and will be in this life although I hate sin. It's the Times we live in. I have a motto and a clear Goal: "Preach the Gospel and Strengthen the saints!" Rapture gotten close. Keep reaching out. Never give up or allow yourself to be too discouraged. I'm on Face Book if you'd like to obliquely fellowship. It's Soft Evangelism but I'm always 'pushing'. LOL Be blessed Tamara! Ken M.
Every scene in this movie is a masterpiece, the soundtrack is a masterpiece. This scene in particular leaves me with some melancoly, what now? It is terrible, I cannot explain
Yukiya Okami - Virtual TH-camr in all your struggles; never forget these words. “Seek ye the kingdom of god first and everything shall be added.” In the face of danger do not cry why or how could this be, never give your problems power over you. God’s children can move mountains with faith as small as a grain of mustard seed.
Only if he met him after Damascus. This character is based on St. Longinus. That Roman was martyred for his faith. A sequel to this film would be a sad one.
Lots of questions at the movie's end. Does Clavius eventually fish for men? Or, like Mary (Jesus's mother), does he treasure these things in his heart? Does he ever meet any of the disciples again? And what of Pilate? It would be fascinating to see Clavius meet up with Pilate again. It would be sort of like Gladiator, but less violent.
We will never exactly know what happened to him, but the ending made it clear, that he indeed became a Christian and by true literal meaning of the word. He became a new creation, he changed and he "can never be the same". And yes, he would fish for men just by living his life as a Christian and he preached to that man in the cave, when he told him the whole story. So yes, Clavius would become a very spiritual and influential person among first christians. Thanks for the comment and God bless you! Stay safe!
This man from the bible became a follower of Christ and a Christian had his own family and built the christian faith in till his death and martyrdom to this day
This is a different version not by James Tabor yes there witnesses to this event and God gave them long lives, Gospel John lived to a ripe old age of 98 on the Island of Patmos .Luke being Greek and author of the Acts he also lived to a long age . In Judea out there are lintels from the 3 crosses nine ancient buildings have them lintels over doors.
Nickolas, we see in the end of the movie, that Clavius didn't really follow the apostles directly, but He indeed became a Christian, he believed, he found the purpose of life and he "would never be the same" as he said. He became a new creation in Christ, as all Christians should. So, answer to your question, I believe it is one and the same thing. I mean becoming like an apostle and living different life in Christ, because even if he didn't preach like apostles do, I'm sure he would preach the gospel only by living his life the way he decided to live. Doesn't our lives, actions represent Christ and His gospel in the first place? I think so. So, doesn't matter what exactly he chose to do, what's most important is that he chose the way of Christ, he chose the truth and with the apostles or without them - He became a Christian and he was never going to be the same! This is all my opinion of course. Thanks for the question and for watching the video ^_^ God bless!
Great scene at the tomb...seal(ropes)how broken by angles...like pulled apart with super strength...just miraculous, awesome...l am a believer since youth , amen !
This scene just didn't work. You can't pair a great actor with a bad one and expect a good result. The guy just didn't sound believe able with his "do you truly believe this?" line, it came off as forced and flat. Good movie, bad ending sequence.
Well, if I actually see miracles performed and a man truly die and risen from the grave myself I might change my mind about belief. But no movie is going to be anything but a myth story. There is no question that religion is emotion based and this movie pulls the strings. Don't get me wrong I enjoy myth stories but I like Star Trek also and it's future myth. May the farce be with you.
God is not an old 50 ft man in space but something that created the universe. It creates and nothing more. We modern humans ridicule belief systems and leave behind nothing. Perhaps this thing sent Jesus to show we can become something better and not feel we are living in an unkind universe. Can't wait for your reply.
@@vincentfisher1603 that’s an unfair measurement in itself - the disciples saw and experienced first hand. That’s not belief - that’s a FACT to THEM. It’s unfair at best to use the same faith measurement against those born 2000 years later in a scientifically advanced society.
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That is what happened to me too. Was a lukewarm Christian all of my life. Attended church but still living in sins and had no real relationship with God until God made Himself known to me and I was never the same again. The defining moment of my existence was when I had truly known that I'm loved by my Creator despite of my ignorance towards Him all of this while. I found everlasting inner peace and I'm filled with love for others. I feel like I'm the richest person in the universe even if I'm going to be disabled or homeless tomorrow. Again, I can never be the same again. My soul delights in His presence and I'm grateful to Jesus Christ for never giving up on me and lead me to the Father. Blessed are those who have not seen yet still believe.
Friend, thank you very much for this incredible comment. May God and His Son be with you always!
Same here brother, I was a very religious catholic person and missed the whole POINT. I've been born again, I've been saved, my eyes have been opened....no more traditions, my salvation began at 27 yrs old and can never lose it, because its not about my pathetic good deeds , but about Jesus' power over my sins and death. I feel your joy ! God bless you brother.
Although I’m not Christian I too experienced something similar with the Creator as a child. I try to be a decent human a do what Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, Noah (Peace be upon them all) taught which was to love God with all your heart, and soul.
WTF
That's so super awesome. God bless!
Sometimes Faith based films can be hit or miss, but this was a beautiful expression of love, wonder, and hope.
Something special.
This scene is just so inexplicably powerful, it just breaks me every time 😭✝️
very true.
No one can be the same after meeting Jesus ever.
Ines Saleh I never met him, so I cannot comment.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop all you have to do is ask to meet him (Jesus). You won't know til you knock and talk to Him directly.
CJ Park well, if you can pray or whatever and let him know, that I want to talk to him about current affairs like equals.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop uh no one else can make your decisions with Jesus
@@DrumToTheBassWoop He's there, old mate-right by your side. When things get a bit hairy He's holding your hand because He loves you and would like you to love Him and everyone around you. If you choose otherwise then that's up to you, but when you feel a bit low He'll be there holding you to His loving breast. It's what He does because He's ace. May he keep you and yours at this time of trouble, old son. You seem to be halfway there, so I won't lecture, but hang on to what you think and He will be there as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow.
I've never been disappointed by a Joseph Fiennes performance.
Love this beautiful movie of faith! Saw it in theater and it moved me so much! Thank you for posting! He is Risen! He is Risen Indeed! Hallelujah! 🙏❤
You're very welcome, Patricia. Thanks for watching. He is indeed Risen. May our Lord bless you.
Love you bro
Great film! Joseph Fiennes is an excellent actor and the history is so interesting indeed. In fact I can see myself through the eyes of the roman guy. He has to face something... no... Someone so bigger than him! He cannot understand, but he finally believes. A new man! Like me! I was an atheist, but now, no more. Oh my Master, I believe you, I love you so much! I am sorry for my poor English!
José, Thanks so much for your comment. It is really inspiring. I'm really happy that you found the Saviour in your heart and finally started to believe. Let your path be bright, filled with Christian love. May our Lord bless you.
Praise God for you Jose. When someone encounters the risen Jesus he can never be the same again. He Gives you new life,and more importantly , you become a true son of the the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
AMEN BROTHER!!!
Your heart is open my friend. You are blessed.
Oh,glory BraveLife. Thanks for sharing!
He is risen
Indeed He is. God bless you.
I had the privilege of seeing this in the theater. It's amazing on a large screen with that beautiful music. This movie is a nice speculation because it invites the viewer to be the tribune. Have an encounter with Jesus and you'll never be the same. Happy Holy Week!
love every bit of this film.......i believe- i can never the same again..
Thanks for watching, friend
I adored this movie. I missed it on the big screen unfortunately but have seen it many times and even own it.
I own it too...but on the big screen...that last shot...with the music...took my breath away...
I absolutely love this film!!!!!!!!
same here. Thanks for watching and commenting. God bless you, friend
Powerful. Makes one feel as though he is there. Follows Scripture well.
Imagine if there was a man like this fictional character who witness Christ and decided to live his life according to Christ. He will be alone but even his solitude would not destroy him but it would serve a purpose to do the works of Christ. I believe that man/person will be or is us. That's the beauty of this scene. We too are Clavius. We will never be the same too.
Such a beautiful comment, Aaron. Thank you so much. I feel absolutely the same way. That's the meaning of all of it, isnt it, that we shall never be the same after meeting God's Son.
@@coolgirltomka Yes sister Tamara may God bless you and peace be with you. This are dire times and pray hard.
@@aaronshanker6019 May God bless you too, Aaron. Take care!
Yes my brother. I thought this way too. I am Clavius!!! I was an atheist for many years but The Beloved Master found me and called me. Now I belong to Him and what a wonderful and perfect Lord I have! I wish that all men and women know The Lord. Nothing is better!!!
Didn't Cornelius do just that?
Such a powerful movie. Incredible.
I believe.
I will never be the same again either. People don’t understand.
I do. I’ve never been the same again, either !
What a great movie, truly GREAT !
Excellent scene, excellent music!
He is coming very soon. The Bride must be ready for her Bridegroom for He is coming with the shout of the angel, the blow of the trumpet and His bride shall be caught up and He will gather His Bride and be in the Wedding Feast where the door will be shut and cannot be opened. Amen.
This film hit me to the core!!
He looks so much like Paulos the Apostle.
God bless you!
Thank you very much, Christopher. May God bless you as well!
People wonder about those that refer to themselves as "Christians"!
With few exceptions, we do not call ourselves "Roman Catholics, Catholics, Protestants, or anything else".
WHAT "IS" a "Christian"?
WHO "IS" a "Christian"?
WATCH this man's intensity!
His self-wonder and amazement when he says: "I Believe!"
He then adds: "I Can Never Be The Same"!
I personally had such an experience back in c. 1984.
This 'Experience' is NOT necessarily needed to 'Believe' properly when experiencing the Required "Saving Faith" but it's a bonus!
Often, this experience comes 'later' in the Walk.
Suddenly, you stop and realize that 'you' isn't the 'you' that used to be and never will be again!
This Realization or Discovery is filled with at least some amazement at this self-awareness.
I'll add this also:
For a person to REALLY come to the Understanding that nearly ALL his views and beliefs are either Wrong or way insufficient is labeled a "Paradigm Shift" of Life!
That is, you've Learned Something that's turned the table over and a New Life must now start but Start inside your Old Existing Life that is common to Man.
The same Job, family and people but it's NOT your Old Life at all!
It's a wonderful and grand experience to really understand that the Living God really is your loving and always close watching and by Father!
That there is Everlasting Peace between you and He because of What His Son has done for you personally on the Cross!
That even yet uncommitted sins will not break this Safe and Everlasting Relationship with the Almighty.
Ken, thank you so much for this amazing comment. I'm really delighted of how you described the faith of Clavius, because me personally always saw these lines: "I can never be the same" as the most essential in the whole Christianity. Yes, total change of life, even though the circumstances stay the same. You become somehow the other person, because you find God and His Son in your heart, you find that He loved you to the point that He sacrificed The Son and "the tomb is empty" and He is promising everlasting life.
What a discovery!
and first time when I saw this movie, I wondered, why didn't Clavius become a Christian with Peter and other brothers? Why didn't he follow them? but then I realized, It's not about being anywhere with them, he indeed was preaching by his way of life, the new way of life he found, like he preached to this house's owner. He was a true Christian and he'd never ever be the same....
You are right, Ken. We don't call ourselves anything particular, I'm absolutely agree with you on this, but sometimes there are moments when I still wonder, why shouldn't there still be a fellowship of Christians somewhere in the world, brotherhood as it was in the first century, the ones that Clavius met, the people who love each other, don't do the things that God forbids, don't kills, don't hates and love God and please him in every way they can! and there are so many religions, so many denominations and we(personally, me) are stuck somewhere between, not knowing where to go, to whom to go, because we know that the way is one - The Christ - but still with no fellowship and not surrounding with spiritual people, with whom you'd be directly say: "Oh, here they are, the true Christians"!
@@coolgirltomka We are in the Church of Laodicea! I'm a Christian Scholar of 36+ years and I'm turning 70 in Nov.
Yet, although I tried hard to fit in different Churches, I just kept running into to many sinful trouble-packing people both women and men that kept putting me to the test of patience and endurance while hindering any ministry I was already being roadblocked from.
My point is that the Western Church is too fat and happy with too many uncalled and therefore unqualified 'Teachers' all yelling "Hey! Look over here!".
Our churches are full of infant Christians all dirtying their diapers. It's a spiritual Nursery while the Pastors are busy building Empires they think are for God but are really edifices to themselves and wonderful Retirement Plans.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a sinner and will be in this life although I hate sin.
It's the Times we live in. I have a motto and a clear Goal: "Preach the Gospel and Strengthen the saints!"
Rapture gotten close. Keep reaching out. Never give up or allow yourself to be too discouraged.
I'm on Face Book if you'd like to obliquely fellowship. It's Soft Evangelism but I'm always 'pushing'. LOL
Be blessed Tamara!
Ken M.
Every scene in this movie is a masterpiece, the soundtrack is a masterpiece. This scene in particular leaves me with some melancoly, what now? It is terrible, I cannot explain
I was moved emotionally by this film, it has strengthened my faith now in the Lord. I am a true believer always.
The best movie ever!!
Incredible movie
Goosebumps bgm...
This is a fact.once you find the lord,you will never be the same.you cant be
What a great movie.
I am a new creation.
There are time's I doubt , there are time's I forget , but even in the darkness I shall find light !
You are strong. Your heart is now open.
Yukiya Okami - Virtual TH-camr in all your struggles; never forget these words. “Seek ye the kingdom of god first and everything shall be added.” In the face of danger do not cry why or how could this be, never give your problems power over you. God’s children can move mountains with faith as small as a grain of mustard seed.
Clavius was actually a kind and compassionate by his nature so god chose him
Jesus said blessed are those who have not seen yet believe. We will never be the same also. And we will see...😅
Lord Jesus Christ you are the only Way, the only Truth and the Life ✝️✝️✝️
The question is do you really truly believe all this yes I do I can and never will be the same again..
It's amazing scene~^^
They should film a sequal where the Tribune meets Saul of Tarsus and they have adventures.
Only if he met him after Damascus. This character is based on St. Longinus. That Roman was martyred for his faith. A sequel to this film would be a sad one.
The reality of evil continuing to make me sad. Let me know that Jesus is alive soon.
Lots of questions at the movie's end. Does Clavius eventually fish for men? Or, like Mary (Jesus's mother), does he treasure these things in his heart? Does he ever meet any of the disciples again? And what of Pilate? It would be fascinating to see Clavius meet up with Pilate again. It would be sort of like Gladiator, but less violent.
We will never exactly know what happened to him, but the ending made it clear, that he indeed became a Christian and by true literal meaning of the word. He became a new creation, he changed and he "can never be the same". And yes, he would fish for men just by living his life as a Christian and he preached to that man in the cave, when he told him the whole story. So yes, Clavius would become a very spiritual and influential person among first christians. Thanks for the comment and God bless you! Stay safe!
Plot twist: Tribune is St. Paul the Apostle or St Paul of Tarsus.
great movie
Thank you Jesus ❤️
God bless you all
Martin Luther origin.
(the actor portrayed Martin Luther in "Luther" from 2003)
No follower of Jesus is ever the same again.
🙏🙏
This man from the bible became a follower of Christ and a Christian had his own family and built the christian faith in till his death and martyrdom to this day
This is a different version not by James Tabor yes there witnesses to this event and God gave them long lives, Gospel John lived to a ripe old age of 98 on the Island of Patmos .Luke being Greek and author of the Acts he also lived to a long age . In Judea out there are lintels from the 3 crosses nine ancient buildings have them lintels over doors.
I believe
In Jesus name..........Amen
where i can watch it?
I believe, I can't never be the same 🙏🙏
Maranata
This movie was so much better than The Shack.
Thanks the father ABBA , I would never b the same, Viva Jesus de Nazare 🎺 gbuall 👀😂
Thanks for watching, friend. May He bless you.
Jesús de Nazaret 😢😮❤
❤🎉😢❤❤ Edison Osorio
Pls can someone explain the ending?
Hey, friend! What exactly is your question about the ending may I ask?
@@coolgirltomka I mean did the centurion became a like apostole ,did he proclaimed the gospel,or did he just live a different life in Christ?
Nickolas, we see in the end of the movie, that Clavius didn't really follow the apostles directly, but He indeed became a Christian, he believed, he found the purpose of life and he "would never be the same" as he said. He became a new creation in Christ, as all Christians should. So, answer to your question, I believe it is one and the same thing. I mean becoming like an apostle and living different life in Christ, because even if he didn't preach like apostles do, I'm sure he would preach the gospel only by living his life the way he decided to live. Doesn't our lives, actions represent Christ and His gospel in the first place? I think so. So, doesn't matter what exactly he chose to do, what's most important is that he chose the way of Christ, he chose the truth and with the apostles or without them - He became a Christian and he was never going to be the same! This is all my opinion of course. Thanks for the question and for watching the video ^_^ God bless!
watch the movie.
@@emuna1197 i have watched it. Its ok the creator of the chanel answered me
Is this Warwick 😂?
He then went off to start the Republic of Gilead.
Great scene at the tomb...seal(ropes)how broken by angles...like pulled apart with super strength...just miraculous, awesome...l am a believer since youth , amen !
Trying.
Knorr am I....
How does a person that does not believe in religion, but I do believe in helping one another. Meet “Jesus”
What does religion have anything to do with your faith?
Aaron Shanker I don’t believe in any religion, but I would try and help people, even if it meant them “meeting jesus” through their prayer.
Ask Him.
This scene just didn't work. You can't pair a great actor with a bad one and expect a good result. The guy just didn't sound believe able with his "do you truly believe this?" line, it came off as forced and flat.
Good movie, bad ending sequence.
Well, if I actually see miracles performed and a man truly die and risen from the grave myself I might change my mind about belief. But no movie is going to be anything but a myth story. There is no question that religion is emotion based and this movie pulls the strings. Don't get me wrong I enjoy myth stories but I like Star Trek also and it's future myth. May the farce be with you.
So you have to believe in God to be saved from what God would have done to you if you don’t. Okay got it.
God is not an old 50 ft man in space but something that created the universe. It creates and nothing more.
We modern humans ridicule belief systems and leave behind nothing. Perhaps this thing sent Jesus to show we can become something better and not feel we are living in an unkind universe.
Can't wait for your reply.
@@vincentfisher1603 what’s the eternal punishment nonsense based on nothing but the correct belief, then?
@@Hilts931 The entire disciples went to their deaths never wavering in what they saw. The idea that God destroys who needs it is man's creation.
@@vincentfisher1603 that’s an unfair measurement in itself - the disciples saw and experienced first hand. That’s not belief - that’s a FACT to THEM. It’s unfair at best to use the same faith measurement against those born 2000 years later in a scientifically advanced society.
@@Hilts931 You and I are agreeing.