AMERICANS REACT to UK Gun Laws Explained!
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At least in England, Scotland and Wales, if you state 'personal protection' as your reason for wanting to own a gun you will almost certainly be refused a licence.
In all this, the important thing is that owning a gun for personal protection is NOT permitted under UK law.
It is legal to have a Personal Protection Weapon (mainly Northern Ireland, part of the UK), under the Firearms (NI) Order 2004. The Firearms Cert (FAC) is issued by the Chief Constable on a case by case basis, and is normally a 9mm calibre sidearm/pistol. PSNI Officers have their service weapons that they take home for personal protection, and Security Services/Military are granted permission on a case basis if living in the Province. These weapons are normally assigned from the existing military stock (Glock 17 and H&K P226 [now out of active general service so usually preferred issue] upon availability). There are cases of local politicians being granted the right to carry a PPW due to ongoing threat assessments against them. I just wouldn't expect them to hit a barn door unless they threw at someone.
Actually under the UK/English consitution were entitled to be armed however parliament have been trying over last 100yrs to take our constitution away
@@darrylwigginton1067 I’d say that part of the UK constitution should be removed, but that’s just my opinion
I agree with Jimmy. Look at the shit they have to deal with in America. We have greater value for life now and whatever constitutions stood 100 years ago, don’t work in modern culture. Look how previous Americans are about their 2-300 year old constitution. The world has changed so much, you can’t live by rules from centuries ago. Laws have to evolve to move with the times
@@tridentuk6885 yup, I heard once that local councillors in some areas were issued personal weapons and the RUC gave them training (supposedly) Some of the local politicians I met I wouldn’t have trusted with a slingshot. We had one come for a tour of our base at Aldergrove, he was carrying but told to hand it in for safety when I noticed it in the holster with the safety off!
I am a 66 year old UK citizen and have never seen a real firearm outside of a museum or movie. I loved to play with toy guns as a kid but as an adult I would feel very uncomfortable having a firearm in my house or even going into someone else's home where there was one.
I seen a real firearm, friend of family was as former police officer and was a member of a fireing range, had a pistol that he showed us which he had to transport in a locked case. This was in UK. Was a while ago so might have been before strict gun law crackdown.
Nor me
Our family friend who was my old boss owns a shotgun because of the amount of money he brings in from his fish an chip shop. It has to be under lock an key all the time tho which is kinda silly if someone try’s to rob his house.
65 yr old here, never seen a firearm in the UK until I went to the USA. Totally different mentality
I've seen lots of guns in the UK carried by police... there are armed police all over Heathrow airport, especially near the El Al check-in counters. It's also quite common to see farmers with shotguns.
Hi guys , I’m a 61 year old living in the uk , my father was in the RAF regiment, so I was exposed to guns in a military setting, and was taught at an early age about the dangers and uses of them . However, I think the point I would like to make is that I feel my / our level of “freedom “ here in the uk is considerably higher than in the US as I am free to walk around anywhere at anytime day or night,and never once would it ever cross my mind that I was in any situation or location even remotely likely to come across someone brandishing a firearm.keep up the great content, many thanks, kevin from 🇬🇧
I'm a UK veteran. Very comfortable around fire arms yet never felt the need to own one in civie street however, if I lived in a place where they were very common i would have a weapon in my home and a licence to carry. I would not be under the illusion that it's for total protection. It levels the playing field. That's all, if it ever came to it. The best defence is not to be in that situation in the first place if at all possible.
Great videos. Keep up the good work 🇬🇧🍻
I am a retired UK police officer and was involved somewhat in firearms and shotgun licensing.
The first requirement was usually to answer the question, what the fvck do you want this gun for?
Unless a very good, sane reason was given, that would be the end of it.
Btw, if they said to protect yourself from the government, that would raise mental health concerns and would definitely ensure that they would never have access to a firearm.
But you lot are armed to the teeth.. why is that?
I heard one of the ways to get higher power guns is if you work in the maritime defence industry is that true? Does that mean they just let them take home their assault rifles?
The police are a part of the problem. They have weapons to defend themselves yet we are told we can't have any weapons for self defence and to call the police that may not even bother to turn up.
As Inspector Fowler put it in Thin Blue Line, "The first question must be 'Does that person wish to own a gun?' And if the answer is yes, then that person is clearly not a suitable person to have one".
My late father was a police officer in a village. He went into the wood to check the game keeper's licence and as the cottage door opened, five pairs of wide staring eyes looked at my father, they were hiding under the kitchen table!
Just acted as a reference for my friend’s shotgun licence. The police rang me up and asked if my friend had any issues that might concern me: job, money, divorce etc and if I felt they were suitable to have a licence. All very sensible.
I was asked to certify our former CEO's shotgun application (he had a working farm). I was asked by the police to prove my professional qualification (FCCA, which you put at risk if you negligently or falsely sign the declaration) and confirm that, given his age (turned 70) in my judgment were his mental faculties and judgment still good enough. SO yes, I agree - all very sensible.
As you say, all very sensible. Personally I'd have to rein in a desperate urge to say I wouldn't trust the guy with an elastic band. Probably a big reason I would never be asked.
Gun laws were updated after the Dunblane massacre where 16 primary pupils and one teacher were killed and 15 others injured. The shooter then killed himself 9I won't give him credence by giving his name here). The public campaign, which helped to change the Firearms Act was called the Snowdrop Petition.
That was almost 30 years ago and it’s still shocking. Thankfully nothing like that has happened here in Scotland since. Hopefully that piece of s**t is burning in helI. I don’t know one single person who owns a gun. I respect that the US is a different country, different culture etc but I just don’t get it…… I’ve seen so many school shootings on the news here from the US and can’t get my head around how it’s still happening. Like I say, I respect their culture etc but don’t get it.
@@Brian_ON its because half of them have been brain washed by right wing propaganda. and the other half cant figure out how to snap the poor brain washed fools out of it.
and we arnt much better.
you know we recently had days of riots in this country and now we have to change important policing laws just because someone posted a lie in a tweet.
true story.
It's a wonderful freedom in the UK to have almost zero expectation of ever facing a gun.
And not having the trauma of your kids doing "live shooter drills" at school.
Yessss!!!
Except for the illegal guns used by criminals...
@@somebloke13 I'm 68 and have never been anywhere that someone has pulled a legal, or illegal gun on anyone. Of course criminals have them, but very few of them will openly carry a weapon, where a member of the public could report them to the police.
Yes it is great not worrying about guns. Just a shame we have to worry about being locked up over our opinions 😢. 2 tier Kier
There's the issue right there, gun control shouldn't be a political subject or something people are scared to discuss or confront.
Whose scared? It has often been discussed.
@@SimSim-zf9if There's still fear/caution/trepidation about it because it's considered a political topic.
@@SimSim-zf9if both sides - one that it's dangerous/irresponsible to have them and 2nd that limiting it would take away their perception of safety/independence
@@Jamie_D "gun control shouldnt be a political subject". what do you mean?
obviously all guns should be banned (unless your working near wild polar bears or your a cop at the airport).
but banning anything gets politisized.
nothing gets banned without politics.
how could gun control not be a political issue?
When 20 little kids got murdered in an American school and nothing was done, you lost me.
We had a mass shooting in Australia and there were big changes after that….
very upsetting. but even more so knowing they will NEVER address it.
They did thoughts and prayers it didn't seem to work
Different culture, that's all. I guess we could look at Australia and pick holes in it, also uk, everywhere. In the UK we live in a country where if one person does something wrong we all get punished which is ridiculous
More than 20 children have been stabbed to death in the UK this year!
@@AlOh-2Per capita the US has more knife crime so overall the uk is safer for children going to school.
Theres a video that shows what, why and how our gun laws changed in the uk, there was a school shooting, the dunblane massacre, def worth looking up/ reacting to
Tennis player Andy Murray was elsewhere in the school as a pupil I understand
@ the time of the massacre
Exactly, I've heard of that incident. That was the catalyst. It was used to disarm the public by anti-gun activists with help from the media. The guy that did it was insane, as always. Australia had the same type of incident, with the same result. If they had same reaction to people deliberately running other people over with cars we wouldn't see cars anywhere.
Wednesday. 13th March 1996
I was in the army and consequently had weapons. I also shot at a firing club. Not had one for years and have no interest in one. A while back I saw a video on TH-cam that taught US children how to secure a school door if a killer is loose. This is madness?
I have 12 years service, 8 tours in the province from 83 to 91 as an ATO. Yes we carried weapons, Browning hi power on our hip and SLRs in the truck. I have absolutely no interest in them now, I had to use my sidearm once and it didn’t end well for the other person and he was about to detonate an IED so completely justified. It profoundly changed me and I just don’t get the US fascination for them.
I’d pretty much guarantee that if you have to take a life at close range, you’ll never be the same again. I know I’m much happier and safer in the UK
I know someone (in northwest England) who's a member of a target shooting club. Once every 2 weeks he goes to an Army shooting range on the coast where they shoot up to 600 yards. The club building is on a farm with an indoor shooting range. He's now aged 76 and most of the club members are of a similar age range. He tells me the young generation mostly have zero interest in guns or target shooting.
Propaganda works on 80% of people and there is no shortage of government propaganda in the UK.
its good init.
it goes to show how good laws make good people.
Whilst a member of the sealed Knot (an English civil war re-enactment society in the UK) I was a gun captain, this meant I was in possesion of a cannon, in my case it was a signal gun that actually fired shot for a mile. During re-enatment battles it fired wadding. To enable me to participate in this activity I had to obtain a shotgun licence and if I had stored the cannon in a lockable secure container. The police visited me and were very thorough in the vetting procedure before issuing my licence.
OI! You 'ave a loicence for that cannon??
Oh, you do. Very good, Sir. Have a nice day.
@@tridentuk6885 No I had a shotgun licence to be allowed to fire the cannon. The cannon was stored by another member of the regiment I belonged to. Apart from the licence required to be allowed to fire the cannon you had to pass a strict safety exam to show that you could safely fire the cannon and not endanger the rest of the gun crew as you were dealing with gunpowder and after it is fired the cannon barrel got extremely hot and the barrel had to be wormed out then damped and dried before putting the next charge of powder down followed by wadding. after you have burst the powder bag you place a small amount of powder by the top hole (it's 40 years ago so my memory is not so good,) then you shout "have a care" to warn the rest of the crew to stand back then light the powder. After the initial fizz the boom always caught you by surprise.
@@sibbo-v6n That's a club you belonged to, not a Regiment. Don't get confused, a Regiment's authorisation is from the Monarch to bear arms.
Fair play in getting your legal requirements though. The cops will tear you to pieces if you mess up your paperwork.
@@tridentuk6885 I'll concede that one but not sure that the Sealed Knot nor the ECWS would call themselves a club, more of a society whose aim is to educate the populace about that period of our history. same as the Ermine street guard for the Roman period or the Napoleonic society. who re-enact Wellington's battles.
I no longer hold a shotgun certificate as at 75 I'm a bit long in the tooth to partake in such things.. Interesting point (well to me) is that we did a display in Lydiate near liverpool whilst a member of the sealed knott and availed ourselves of the hospitality of the local pub ^the scotch piper"in the evening. that was over 40 years ago and it was only recently that i discovered whilst researching my family tree that the landlord at the time was a distant cousin! If i'd known that I would have asked him for some freebies.C'est la vie.
The big thing in the uk is self protection is not a legitimate reason to own a gun. That alone completely changes the situation.
The second amendment says ...
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
How this seems to have been interpreted as a right to own guns with no limitations has always puzzled me. How many gun owners in the US are part of a well regulated militia??????
Arguably the ‘Well regulated Militia’ from days gone by are now the State National Guards. You don’t need private armies of armed gun nuts roaming the streets. But that aside, regulation is what’s needed.
Im not even American but, The "militia" in the Second Amendment refers to the people themselves. Restricting their right to bear arms limits their ability to form a militia to secure a free state, which could lead to increased government tyranny. its very basic and if its the second amendment they made to their constitution i would think its pretty important.
Their argument is, that should the government become tyrannical, then the people have the ability to tackle them. "Well regulated" meaning "well provisioned" in that context.
Obviously, these days, it's a dreadful argument, seeing as the US government has battleships, supersonic jet fighters and drones... Plus the many, many documents suggesting that the Bill of Rights was supposed to be updated... But ammosexuals don't care.
They just quote the ridiculous Heller decision that the 2nd amendment was an individual right to own whatever "arms" you want.
In fact, many of the most fervent 2A absolutists are really, really upset that fully automatic weapons are prohibited... In their view, the founding fathers would have wanted everyone to be as heavily armed as possible.
Hence "thoughts and prayers" always trumps actually doing anything to reduce the 40,000 gun deaths per year there.
@@dan_g_64 Nice story, but not really applicable. Militia only refers to the people themselves when they are part of a well regulated Militia. It's time the US citizens started to trust the government at least as much as they seem to trust the big companies (which are clearly worse), although now might not be the right time.
@@KeesBoons I don't think any sensible person would fully trust either large corporations or their own government. Also, the militia is the people-it's not a permanent institution that meets regularly. Militias are formed, organized, and equipped by local citizens when necessary, and they need the means to do that effectively
At the age of 27 in 1982, I travelled around the States for 6 months. Quickly noticed the guns on police I had never seen one before. It made me nervous but after a certain time I got use to it. Except when being pulled over by a cop in Arkansas for a traffic offence, I made sure I showed my hands. By the way, when he heard my accent and checked my licence, all he wanted to know what England was like. After the chat, he said off you go and have a nice day.
That was a long time ago. The USA was a very different country then and with different people.
Hey guys. He didn't cover this but you can not 'open carry' or conceal a gun in public in the UK. There was a 17 year old that dropped a gun in a police chase near me recently. It was illegally owned by him. He got 5 years in jail for carrying it.
On the other hand the only time I've seen a gun was going shooting on farmland with my great uncle who shot wild hare, grouse and partridge to eat.
Your post points to something I've often thought the UK police have in their favour that US police don't. Here in the UK, you've already broken the law by carrying a gun (inappropriately), the police can arrest, and and you will go to court and almost certainly jail. In the USA, you may not have broken any law at all until you actually point the gun at someone and pull the trigger. So the US police are (in comparison) nearly powerless, presumably right up to the moment the crime / murder takes place...
Brit here. In my 66 years, the only times I have ever seen working handguns or rifles have been when carried by a soldier or a firearms-trained policeman (and only near high-profile potential targets). I have seen shotguns on farms, and have signed (as a responsible professional) shotgun application forms for others, and have fired one at clay pigeons. That is all. Number of times I have been worried about getting shot, in the UK in that 66 years - nil.
Children in school in the UK don't have gun drills at school.
Sadly some schools in sensitive area such as close to or within military areas have now started having drills.I was quite disturbed to hear it.
Chain saw drills?
They sell kids' backpacks now in US America with a built in carrier for plates.
I live in the Uk and have never even seen a firearm at the age of 68 but if I moved to America I would definitely buy a gun just for the protection of myself and my home.
As a Brit the Concept of "Protection" Baffles Me!
I have never understood how a gun helps protect anyone? If it is a gun safe, how long does it take to get it ready to foil anyone breaking in? If you are in a place where someone with a gun starts shooting people in a public place, if you pull out a gun to fire back, what shows the police that you are defending yourself and not just another person shooting up the place?
NOT in UK. It does not protect anyone, you cannot get a gun for that purpose.
I live in the UK and for my job I need to know these laws very well. The reason it is very different in the UK vs the US is at the start of the video. There is no right to have one. The US has it which is built off of private defense of property and land when the country was built on to defend against anyone trying to take your property or assets. Then it became about enemies foreign and domestic. This does not mean you fighting on your own against the government, but if an unconstitutional government agency wanted to do something to a town it did not want, and the entire town stood up against it, then it has power. The other aspects are personal protection which is not even allowed with a wooden stick in the UK. As there is already a lot of guns, if they are banned or heavily restricted, it prevents those from protecting themselves. It may be all well and good to decide to limit who gets guns, but who is given that choice? Like the first amendment rights, who gets to decide what is "hate speech" and what is not? If the government can just say you can't have it for any arbitrary reason, then there are no protections in place in order to maintain it. It may not be needed now, but Ukraine sure would have loved a gun in every household in 2021. In the UK, we used to have semi automatic rifles and handguns in all calibres until 1987 and then lost pistols in 1997 because of two separate shooting incidents, not because of the gun, but because failures with the police not doing the correct checks. We had a shooting in 2021 where 8 were killed with a shotgun that could only hold 2+1 rounds. Banning the type of guns does not solve anything. School shootings are deadly because there is a large number of people, defenseless, trapped in a building they cannot escape. A fire is more deadly to those trapped in a small building than a fire in an open parking lot. Schools need to be secured, hard to get into, easy to get out of. But that costs money. As well as the pharma drugs used, but that would hurt sales. So they pin it on the gun, which is not the issue, just a result of a large volume owned overall, the actual percentage is extremely low that this happens. In the UK we now cannot engage in a sport because of two separate idiots 37 years ago. We can own a .50BMG sniper rifle, but not a single shot .22LR pistol. Our rules do not make sense for the US. I think if you had some training with a gun with a friendly person you would enjoy it and the more you learn the more you realise what it is capable of, the more you realise ALL guns are dangerous and could be abused just as much as the ones now, so banning them or heavily restricting them would not help. The cost of implementing the licensing system we have here would bankrupt the entire country if used in the US. It is already working at a loss here. And why to your point to have a gun staying at a gun range? Well why bother owning it then? Instead of renting? How would you clean it, sight it in, modify or tweak it. If you wanted to go to a different range with it, how would that work? It adds complications to the point, then why not just have all guns legal and only rent them? What civilians then own the gun range and have access? It gets quite complicated enough to not bother at all with. And in some circumstances, some people hunt with them on their own property as well. As for the US, how can you protect yourself or your family if your gun is at a range? Also, bump stocks are gimmicks for fun, the guns are semi automatic, not fully automatic, and bump firing can be done without the stock, and is not accurate or a smart thing to do practically. I think you should gain some more knowledge on the subject. It will make it easier to grasp the concept of gun ownership. I feel like a large portion of your feelings on this is due to lack of knowledge and experience around them and how people use them and enjoy them safely. Knowing how to handle one and unload and make one clear will put you at ease as well. Some schools do have staff with firearms on site, which is definitely better than nothing. Usually the first sign of resistence they give up or self delete, though I understand your fear of course. Thanks for the video.
If you need to understand why UK GUN LAWS were restricted check out the Dunblane school shootings and the snowdrop campaign. America could learn a lot from this.❤❤❤ for the children..
America cant learn a lot from the school shootings the Uk has had. They dont care and arent interested - if they did care, they would do something ergo, they dont care.
Yes they can learn from Dunblane and Port Arthur in Australia however they simply don't want to. They value guns more than human life. Gun ownership is a privilege not a right.
America can't learn. This is part of the problem. The gun industry has a huge following and lots of power. Restricting guns is bad business. America - land of the free to get shot.
To those of us in the UK, especially if, like me, your only child was exactly the same age at the time, Dunblane will never be forgotten. RIP Gwen Maher and all the little tots xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Didn't stop Southport though. Did it?
They're not a regular Uzi. Not automatic and only .22.
People do not get locked up for opinions in the UK, they get locked up for incitement of violence. The incident recently was a person that incited attacks on hotels full of young families (because they were refugees) plus workers. If someone incited violence against your family online leading to actual attacks would you really want them protected because of "free speech"?
Just a few copy and pastes from U.K. news sources - check them out for yourself:
On the morning of October 16, counter-terror police in Glasgow Airport detained journalist, whistle-blower, human rights campaigner, and former British diplomat Craig Murray upon his return from Iceland.
In November 2023, police arrested the co-founder of the direct action group Palestine Action, Richard Barnard. He is facing charges under the Terrorism Act for speeches he has previously made.
In August 2024, freelance journalist Richard Medhurst was detained and questioned by police at Heathrow Airport. Medhurst said he believed he was targeted for speaking out on the situation in Palestine.
Just a few weeks later, another journalist and activist, Sarah Wilkinson, saw her home raided in the early hours of the morning. Personal items were confiscated but to date she has also no been charged.
Counterterrorism police have raided the London home of a prominent journalist covering the occupation of Palestine and Israeli influence in the UK.
The Electronic Intifada website said that about 10 police officers arrived at the home of its associate editor, Asa Winstanley, shortly before 6am on Thursday.
Winstanley was not arrested and has not been charged with any offence, but police confiscated his electronic devices, the website said.
Mayhar Tousi (someone from the other side of the debate is just about to be arrested too.
Wrong. People have been imprisoned for anti trans or anti Muslim statements as "hate speech" without calls to violence.
Very wrong people in jail for memes or for stating facts that the attacker was part of the death cult of Islam
didnt jeremy clarkson recently get arrested too for protesting or something, not to mention people getting locked up for calling out foreign rape gangs and stuff. do a little research it will take you 2 minutes to find why you are wrong
I have fired SLR 7.62 thousands of times, plus Royal Enfield 303 and SMG 75mm, loved every minute of the shooting range. I did this in the 70s when I was in the army. I was on my squadron's shooting team. I do miss them days... Saying that, I do agree with our strict gun laws here in the UK...
the SMG would be 9mm , i have fired SLR 7.62 LMG 7.62 /303 ,Lee Enfield No 4 303 SA80 5.56 LSW 5.56 Browning 9 mm and the Sterling SMG 9mm all by the time i was 30 ,i am 60 now and miss going to the range
@@simonrelf1671 Yikes my memory is not as it was once...Yes you are right SMG is 9mm. Thanks for the correction.... I am in my 70s now...
@@hurnethehunter thats ok my memory is not as good as it was
A bizarre concept you can't drink alcohol until the age of 21 yet a teenager can have an assault rifle walk into a school or a shopping mall and randomly shoot people at what point is that protection or self defence.
When did that become legal?
I'd recommend watching Jim Jefferies, Gun Control, it's very funny and informative too.
Came here to say this!
I live in England I'm 57, a Biker since leaving school at 16, been in some semi-notorious Motorcycle clubs, go to all the U.K. Biker Events, drink with many clubs, even been to the Hells Angels clubhouse in Manchester (not a member) also to their Events and shows around the U.K., just trying to make you understand I've been around a bit, my point is... I HAVE NEVER SEEN A GUN IN REAL LIFE !! If anyone should have seen one, I would have thought it'd be me !!. OF course you see them in the Hands of the police sometimes, and at airport security etc, but I'm talking about in the hands of Joe public. When I hear there are more guns in America than people and watch their gun violence on TH-cam it's shocking, unnecessary, and totally out of control... yet for some reason they love their guns so much they'd rather risk their family's lives, and the occasional massacre than vote to ban them !! it's disturbing and unbelievable !!
To put things in context the uk has about 35 gun homicides in the uk. This number is almost 50,000 deaths in the usa with 15,000 of those being intentional homicide. Also the uk and sweeden combined with over 80 million people has less murders at 750 total per year, than the city of chicago alone in the usa at 800 per year
hmm i wonder why
Also worth noting that these firearms are not for self-protection. Can only be used for work, sport and leisure etc.
In the UK, we can't apply for a firearm certificate for self-protection.
There are numerous types of licenses here in Czech Republic. Farmers and those who live in the countryside who may need a rifle. Sports men and women who are in shooting clubs. A permit for a job like security. Civil permits to own and carry- the hardest one to get.
Mike, I won’t give any names, but there’s a guy in the US whom I follow on his chosen social media platform, and it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say he owns upwards of 150 guns, all legal and all secured. He’s a nice guy so I don’t understand the mentality of gun ownership. Here in Australia, it only took one mass shooting to make our Prime Minister decide to take action, and now guns are licensed for those who have a valid reason for ownership, eg Security guards, certain farmers protecting their livestock from predators, so on. I feel so much safer just walking around because I know no one has a gun so I have nothing to fear. There’s a video about a second-hand gun shop where beginners can buy a gun. Each prospective customer who came in, was told the history of the gun. The video was an experiment to see what it would take to convince new buyers to change their minds.
The thing is though Australia had the same amount of mass murders after they changed the laws as the same period before that. They even changed the definitions of mass murders to try and fudge the statistics. In the UK we changed our laws after Dunblane and then Derrick Bird killed and injured about 20+ people with legally owned weapons after Dunblane. Gun regulation doesn't have much data to support that it works, only that the mode of killing changes.
In the UK I also enjoy a couple of content creators who's main focus is guns and shooting shit. Both seem really nice chaps, always promote gun safety and keep their nonsense on the range.
I was in a white fleet military vehicle and we were moving weapons from 1 camp to another in Northern Ireland, and both the driver and I were armed. The police pulled us over as there was a spate of farm robberies or something and they were on the 'look-out' for "white vans" (good luck with that lol). We radioed our control we were being pulled over to confirm it was a legit cop car. When they confirmed, we pulled over and it was on the side of the motorway. The cop was a little upset we took so long. We identified ourselves and advised we were carrying. The cop nearly crapped his pants when he slid the side door open to see weapon rolls full of an Infantry Battalion's armoury. About 600 automatic rifles, plus Minimis, GPMGs, DMRs and sniper rifles.
He promptly apologised and allowed us to go about our business.
Home defence or personal protection are not acceptable reasons for gun ownership here in the UK. We went down the route of leaving guns at the firing range but it was discontinued. The fear was that you were creating an arsenal of weapons which became attractive to criminal activity in burglary etc. I've held a firearms Certificate for 40 years and things have changed dramatically, notably since Dunblane in 96, but we have relative safety here. That said - criminals will always find guns, and we have them here.
New Zealand's firearms licensing system is pretty similar to the UK's. You have to prove you know ALL the laws relating to gun ownership. You have to prove you have a secure lockup (gun safe) in your home, or guns locked up at a gun club. You have to demonstrate safe gun handling practises. You have to be proven to have no mental issues, GP, family, workplace, friends, interviews. You have to have no criminal convictions. And you have to have a valid reason, collector, gun club, hunter, farmer, are all valid but in no uncertain terms will "protection" ever be accepted! The types of guns available in NZ may be different to the UK as that list changes from time to time. It CAN take up to a year to get your gun license, so walking into a gun shop, filling out an application, and walking out 15 minutes later with an AK47! NOPE! Firearms in NZ must be registered.
15% of NZ homes have a gun, but you never see them.
New Zealand has the 17th highest rate of civilian gun ownership in the world.
New Zealanders own about 6.5 times as many guns per capita as the UK, and 2.5 times as many as Australians.
There's around 26.3 guns per 100 people in NZ, compared to current numbers of 120 guns per 100 people in the US.
The only people who can 'legally' possess any kind of firearm in NZ without a license are the police and military, they are exempt because their documented training qualifies them.
In this video, you mentioned the vetting procedure and how its a very good idea and process. When people from outside the US speak of gun control, this is what we mean, real proper regulations and controls, proper assessments, proper background and psychological examinations. Owning a gun is a privilege and a responsibility.
I used to be part of my school rifle team. We were allowed to shoot rifles at an indoor range on school grounds. I think I was 15 or 16 at the time.
I think the video you watched and your own comments regarding American gun laws and general attitude towards guns was very balanced. This was a very good video.
Mike, this from Quora: None of the major (or minor) combatants in WWI used muskets.18 Apr 2024
“No major combatant of WW 2 issued (smoothbore) muskets to its troops. They would have been more than a century old by then.”
Never trust anything from Quora it's a joke site....😂
Not officially. But in the UK the Home Guard had many what I shall call museum pieces that were reactivated. Hell they they even had a WWI mark 4 Tank.
And the Germans did something similar in the final days anything they could get their hands on that could fire they used.
But as you say it was never officially issued.
@ Muskets were over a hundred years old by WWII.
@@Jeni10 yep and they can still kill when used. Age alone does not diminish lethality.
@Jeni10 exactly....muskets 🤦♂️🤣
Hate speech or direct threats are not allowed on social media in this country. Otherwise you can say what you want. That to me, sounds perfectly sensible
Unfortunately hate speech is defined by the "victim" taking offence, so it's really open to abuse by pussies who refuse to be criticised .
Hearing that you got your right to vote restored is absolutely fantastic mate. Well done. So pleased for you.
Denying people the right to vote after they've served their time is an archaic antiquated system.
I'm all for prisoners not having a right to vote, but once you're done, you should have that right restored.
Literally applauding here in Sheffield, UK when I heard you had your rights restored ❤
I had no idea that they take voting rights from you. In the UK lots of people would support compulsory voting as we've just voted in a shit government who received only 33% of the vote share with turnout being only 60% of the electorate
As a professional engineer, I was asked from time to time to give a written character reference on behalf of people I knew in support of their application for a firearms licence. This was sometimes follow up by a call from the police for further information. These people either required a gun for their work or, as was most likely, for use in a gun club.
I’m in my 60s and I’ve never known anyone who owns a gun. I live in Scotland so our laws may be different. Scotland had a school shooting in 1996. That eventually led to stricter gun laws. That was such a tragedy in this country that the public demanded action. The US for some reason have an insane number of school shootings and seem to think for some reason they need more guns.
Brit here, me and my mates went to visit the states for a stag week (bachelors). We went to Las Vegas and visited a gun range for fun. We tried out a lot of firearms. All good fun. We never used guns before. At the end the range owners talked to us about guns in our country. He asked wouldn't you guys want guns in the UK like here in the US? We all said straight away no f*ckin way. Thats crazy. Its not in our culture. We don't think about them. No one has them unless you want to make trouble. Majority of cops don't have them either so the majority of us don't have them. Its kind of an unofficial social agreement. Maybe a farmer has them, but thats it. Its just not our thing.
Hiya both ,An old schoolmate , a friend for 50 years went rifle shooting with his father,at his home I never saw their guns and didn't know where they were kept ,the rules of storing a gun are strict ,the police will visit the home to check how they are stored,the rifle must be kept in a locked cupboard ,chest or gunsafe ,the ammunition has to stored separately,if the gun has a firing pin it should be removed and stored separately. The law in the UK was tightened after a massacre in the 1990s a man who legally owned a gun went to a school in Dunblane in Scotland and killed 28 children and teachers. The being locked up for what you say is different in the UK ,in the USA you have a form of free speech,in the UK you can say, publish ,broadcast , anything you like so long as it doesn't incite race hatred , violence , criminality, etc
IIRC you can have a tank main gun or an artillery piece on a rifle certificate - not that you'd be able to get ammunition for it easily of course, and you'd likely not get the license approved if you said you wanted a working tank gun.
HMS Belfast, moored in London, is covered by a firearms licence. I don't think Americans are allowed to own warships.
I am in the UK. i have had a gun license since i was 20 years old. I own two guns one rifle and one automatic hand gun. I have a police permit . My guns are in locked containers in my home . I don't carry outside my home. Owning a gun was part of my job before i retired .
Visiting the house also requires you to show where you will be safely locking and storing the gun, and the ammo which much be stored and locked separately I believe.
Might be worth following up this one with "How One Mass Shooting Changed the UK's Gun Laws Forever" about the Dunblane massacre
So far this year there have been 15,427 gun deaths (this doesn't include suicides), 473 mass shootings, which is a big drop from last year and 1,299 children ( aged 17 and under) killed by guns
That’s an absolutely unnecessary tragedy. Blame the cowardly politicians who are in the pockets of gun lobbyists. No one should have to bury a loved one because politicians chose to do the wrong thing!
US America #1…
It's worth pointing out, when I went to the range regularly, I didn't own a gun - I rented time with their available weapons and bought ammo (which they were all to happy to sell). I have never owned a gun. When I lived somewhere dangerous, I did own a taser. If I missed and hit a family member, it would be a shame, but not a disaster. My taser didn't go through walls. I am also trained to use a knife or my bare hands. I won't deny anyone the right to own a gun, but I expect them to be responsible for all guns they own just like I have to be responsible for every knife I own. Here's the thing, I've yet to hear too many stories about someone breaking into someone's house to steal a knife to kill someone else (it could have happened). However, nearly all illegally acquired weapons in the hands of criminals are from either criminal gun runners (all over the world) OR people who have broken into a gun owner's house and stolen a gun. Even if it's reported, that's likely a crime waiting to happen. I'm not advocating to take enthusiasts guns. Most people with multiple guns seem to go to elaborate efforts to secure their weapons. It's the people who buy one weapon for "household defense" who worry me. Nearly always they want the gun to be "handy". Trigger blocks seem too easy to remove. If someone gets hurt by a weapon, the owner should be held accountable at least for not reporting the day it goes missing. Check it every day. I find it hard to believe that regulating the bullet trade wouldn't help. If a certain amount of ammo gets ordered, this should trigger a police investigation and approval. In places where gun enthusiasts use lots, the police would likely be able to call the person and ask to know if it's just a normal situation. Make it a felony to not call the person ordering. I'm unclear how a child would get their hands on that much ammo. Did they order it online? Why are there places that are unmonitored? Solve that problem and mass shootings will drop fast. Still, that won't solve the odd child who grabs his dad's 9mm to shoot the punk bullying him. That's on the parent - not securing the weapon, and the parent should be held responsible. I do know that taking the weapons wouldn't really help the issue, and clearly the issue lies more with restrictions that normal gun owners should help promote. If they secure their weapons, pass the physical and mental exams, and pass the background check, they still get the guns. They should worry about the people who wouldn't pass. They should want those people to not want guns.
I am in my 70s and had gone for years at Fire arms shotguns the problem is when they get in the wrong hands, it’s not the gun it’s the people you’ve got them which spoils it for the people who want to use them for sporting pleasures🇬🇧👍
I had a handgun (pistol) firearms licence when I was younger, it was very, very strict and this was before the big change in 1996 after the tragedy at Dumblane Primary School after which they were outlawed. It's quite funny that the US Second Amendment with the rights to own firearms say they should be heavily regulated and yet the UK has a higher standard.
I’m a uk firearms license holder, have been around 15-20 years. The main difference is background checks and the easily accessible shops with no licensing what so ever.
I was a member of a re enactment group.and had a working replica of a 17th century matchlock musket which required a shotgun licence also need a licence for buying Black powder.When I moved from the countryside to London I had to inform the Police They visited the house said I needed a special steel lockable cabinet attached to an external wall I also needed to change the window locks .The cost was more than the value of the musket so declined and the Police took the musket away and destroyed it.
one good thing about the uk is if you get into an argument or road rage or something the likelyhood of you getting shot is practically zero, the USA on the other hand😖
Something to be said for a proper bollocking.
Im English and i honestly didnt know half of this. I found this very interesting. I knew that you could own shotguns and rifles if you were part of a shooting club but i didnt know the rest and im glad.
If you haven't seen it already then you should check out Gun Control by Jim Jeffries.
Never seen a gun in person
Never wanted a gun
Never needed a gun
Dunblane, Scotland. I grew up in Scotland where my Dad had rifles. I remember the random Police Checks, rifles had to be basicallty dismantled & bits kept in different locked Cabinets. That was the only time we even saw them & that was a long time ago, after Dunblane everything changed. There are a lot of hunting activities up North/Highlands, you might hear them in Season but you never see them.
My father was a Dutch sea captain.He had a firearm locked away.I suppose if there was a mutiny on board.
Also piracy possibly.
NOT friends, only professional people can act as referees 2 for FAC rifle/pistol, 1 for shotgun certificate.
Friends and neighbours can be referees for another person's application for a shotgun or firearm in the UK.
i know many US reactors, often cite vetting people for mental health issues, when it comes to reducing shootings in the US. This wouldn't actually work, unless you had to have a check-up every year or so. Mental health issues are often brought on by emotional trauma in people's lives. It could be a painful and sudden end to a relationship, a loss of job, an incident of bullying. Whatever it was, we can go from feeling great one day to wanting revenge on someone the next. If we let those feelings fester long enough it can become dangerous. People lead busy lives, and sometimes they don't notice that people around them are struggling with their thoughts/emotions. If you knew that gun-owners got checked by an mental health expert once a year, it could give you some peace of mind.
I live in the uk.I think also a difference is like most people here, I have no desire to own a gun.
The UK’s population is about 69 million not 56.
It must have been made about 12 or 15 years ago.. officially it is as you said around 68 million. Though goodness knows just how many aren't accounted for. 👍🏻
And the rest! I understand that it’s WAY into the 70 millions.
It'll be England as UK as usual.
I used to work in 5 star hotels in England and we'd sometimes hold guns in safes for hunters/farmers.
Also you're not permitted to carry any offensive weapon, eg mace spray, taser, kitchen knife, paintball blaster, ninja star.
If you guys haven't done it yet Jim Jeffries' bit on Gun Control (two parts) is very funny and very thought provoking. Sparks a myriad of reactions.
I grew up in South Africa, had firearms from young. At 18 did all my interviews and got carry licence. Loved combat shooting. Moved to the UK at 23 and I can honestly say I’d never want to live in a gun culture country again. I don’t care it’s as sport I won’t do again because guns in society are just awful. The more you arm your self the more violent and cunning the criminals become and it’s effectively an arms race until you are all locked in compounds and venture out in pairs and armed. For me no guns is the way.
Jess, imagine you bought a gun for protection. You went shopping for the week and Allie was with you, having fun looking at all the things she wants you to buy. While you’re deciding which items you want to buy, Allie sees the gun in your purse, lifts it out and it goes off, killing you by accident. It’s a horrible thought, isn’t it? Well it actually happened to a young Mom whose two year old was digging into her purse and found her gun which went off and killed his Mommy!
So take everybody elses guns away?
@ If no one else has guns, you don’t need one either. The more people with guns, the higher the chance of you being killed. It worked in Australia!
@@karlheinzvonkroemann2217no just the idea that having a gun for self protection is legitimate.
@@djs98blue The thing is we don't need ANY justification to own a gun and to whom would we Americans have to justify it? Government is not our friend or nanny. They are supposed to work for us. Have you watched a movie called "Minority Report"? One to think about watching if you haven't seen it.
@@karlheinzvonkroemann2217you’ve lost me. It’s nothing about government just logic. If you can’t understand why owning a gun for self protection will lead to a spiral of guns deaths then I don’t think there is anything more I can add here really.
If I ever seen a gun I would Immediately try to get away from the person that was showing it off - no matter who it was.
I have had mental health issues in the past and to put it bluntly I would probably not be here today if I had easy access to a gun in the UK.
The average person in the UK will never encounter anyone talking about guns or seeing guns in their entire lifetime. It's just not a part of our culture. However, as a father who grew up not worrying about any kind of weapon on the streets (if you wanted a fight, you got your fists ready), my main concern is the amount of youths who are carrying knives. Much like America, where people buy guns to protect themselves from others with guns, many youths in the UK are buying knives to protect themselves from others with knives. It's a perpetuating cycle.
Social attitudes are very important. Here in the U.K. any man with an interest in guns, is seen as a weak coward. In the early 1980s I took my young family to live in South Africa for 3 years - another place with a gun culture. I took great pride in not having a gun and going to places, supposedly unsafe. When challenged by the army or police, my answer was always “I’m British and so no one hates me”.
Getting a shotgun licence is easy enough, if somewhat bureaucratic, but getting a firearms (rifle) licence is much more difficult.
What they don’t mention is that it’s very easy to lose your license - even something as small as getting a speeding ticket!
They claim it shows you as irresponsible…
We have guns in my family here in the uk. However only used on shooting ranges.
When I was 18 I was interested in history predominately historical weaponry, so I looked into the gun laws in the UK out of curiosity and realised there is very little point to ever owning a gun in the UK as there're only used for sport/leisure or work which I assume is pest control or something, so you pay hundreds of pounds for the licence, thousands of pounds for the ability to keep it safe, and probably a few more thousand pounds for the gun itself, and I doubt most people would use it for pest control or anything so your essentially paying potentially tens of thousands of pounds to keep something that you're only going to be able to use in very specific locations. Its like if I got licenced and bought a car, only to be told I can only drive it, if its to Buckingham palace to salute the king or something.
It would be interesting to see you react to a video about the Dunblane School Massacre in 1996 and how that significantly changed gun laws in Britain.
My friend here in the uk was a member of a gun club and he took me along as guest he had a small .22 pistol and a 357 magnum I shot them both at the club but I wasn’t keen on it as a sport, he had a gun cabinet at home that as bolted to a wall with 2 locks on it also the police could come into his house day or night to inspect the weapons.
You won't get locked up for posting opinions on social media, you MIGHT get locked up for inciting violence on social media.
Talk about freedom.... You had your right to vote revoked for weed - that doesn't seem "free", nor does not talking politics in public.
I'm a Brit and have seen a handgun. Owned by an Olympic shooting champion! Farmers have shotguns. Baddies have used sawn off shotguns for robberies but.. They get prison sentences if caught and can never own any gun after that!
In uk, you are NOT allowed to own a gun for self defence. If you say that's why you want one, that will put you on a whole different list.
Whilst one can in theory have an Uzi, the biggest obstacle is having a valid reason to need one. "For my own entertainment" is unlikely to be an acceptable reason why, and therefore it's unlikely one could ever get a license for one.
You mentioned at the beginning that people over there, who own guns, have more than one. The same is true here. I know people with shotgun licenses and they have a few different guns. Means most people never see guns over here.
Also, you don't just get the license and off you go... the police will come and check you are storing them and the ammo correctly as and when they please. Should you become unwell or concerns are raised about you holding the gun license... you will lose it quicker than you can say boo! That's how you keep it as safe as possible.
I used to own a .22 rifle, for target shooting. We handed my dads WW2 British Commando decommissioned pistol into the police in 2011. That's it for my full experience
A 24” gun with a 12” barrel might fall under the legal definition of a hand gun but it sounds more like a small rifle to me. I’ve come into contact with a number of guns over years but never a two foot long “handgun”!
Only legal for farmers and game keepers and stuff like that or shooting clubs
total codswallop!
You guys should react to Jim Jeffries - Gun Control Parts 1 & 2. You need to watch both. It's a very funny take on gun ownership by an Australian comedian who does say a lot of true things. He's a bit 'blue' in places but it's very funny.
Maybe you should look into the Dunblane tragedy. Very emotional but may give you some idea as to why we have such thorough checks. All the best.
Jess would love to watch Little Britain, "Americans Love Guns".
I can understand an American wanting a handgun to protect his or her family at home. But I don't agree with being allowed to take it out of the house. Plus there's a massive difference between a handgun and a semi automatic riffle. That's just mental.
I don't think we in the UK think all Americans love guns - but that there are a higher percentage in the US who do. I think you would be interested to see something about the changes in Australian gun laws after the Port Arthur shootings - because there was a much bigger 'gun culture' in Australia than there ever was in the UK, and so was more similar to the US.
From here in the UK the thing we really don't understand about US and guns is the attitude (from some quarters) "Guns don't kill people, people do!" Ok- so if that is true-then why on Earth don't you have robust vetting process for who can own guns? This bit seems so obvious from over here!
Most of the guns in the UK are shotguns owned by farmers and used to shoot foxes and other pests that kill livestock, they also have rifles for deer herd culling. Although we have gun clubs, the farmers still own the largest number of guns in the UK.
Hate speech is not allowed in the UK. Thank God. Threatening to murder someone is against the law. Trying to incite others to acts of violence is against the law. No doubt, when you have heard of someone being locked up for their social media posts, they have broken these laws. Or, there is the possibility that they have been arrested for online stalking. In all three cases arrest is justifiable. Why should a right to free speech impinge on others sense of wellbeing? No one should have to live in fear.
Who decides what hate speech is?
From the UK though now live in Finland,which apparently has the second highest gun ownership per capita after the US
Finland has such a high gun ownership because IIRC they have national service and basically give each person a rifle and a box of ammo as they walk out of the door having completed their national service period, which they then keep in their house as a reserve soldier for basically the rest of their lives.
This was a sensible reaction, I didn't know we could own an assault rifle and can't understand why we would need one.