Let's do the steel bitter because he ain't Mr Olympia that's why he stopped competing Sean wishes he was Mr Olympia to so cuz he's always a f****** loser he's bitter about it
Agreed Dorian was the better bodybuilder as far as bodybuilding judging is concerned however Shawn’s look was far more pleasing and was overall just better but that’s just my opinion because in reality he was never better then Dorian Even though Dorian wasn’t around then I remember seeing Shawn in 1999 and thinking my favorite bodybuilder ever is going to win this in Flex Wheeler then seeing Shawn then plus his posing routine was just incredible like the pure wow factor and it hurt as I though he’s going to beat Flex & Ronnie it’s deserved though full respect but he definitely got done by the judges that year for certain!
I remember this guy from pre internet days where in asia we used to get magazines and I used to like this guy's body pics! really thoughtful notes about life and when to stop and do what is meaningful for yourself.
@theunrealtournamentchannel kook at nick walker and say ronnie and Dorian didn't have condition you need your eyes checked mate nick looks like shit today is all about mass the monsters then had condition and were not 8 months pregnant on stage Shawn is bitter thought
@@tylerheldmann1 I never said anything about their condition! They're all less than 5% B.F. Mass is cool when it's complimentary. Unfortunately, many of today's bodybuilders look like rectangles instead of a V shape like CBum, Frank Zane, etc.
@theunrealtournamentchannel when I brought up cbum the fan boys tell you go to classic when it's the truth like you said that open looks blocky or rectangle mike mentzer had alot of mass but could do a perfect vacuum smaller waists are better to me so I agree with you the waists and stomachs are to big now cbum is everything a bodybuilder is supposed to be
i took a pic with Shawn Ray when i was in Germany in the army. that dude smiled and flexed his bicepts next to my head and i smiled as well. when i saw the pic i was like damn, his arm was bigger than my head!!!!
Shawn Ray speaking truths and being vulnerable. He truly speaks highly of other bodybuilders, and especially Dorian. I think mainly he has been called "controversial," or a "heel," is that he says what all of us are thinking. It's the exposition of uncomfortable truths that make other bodybuilders and coaches lose their minds.
For me, my favorite physique was Shawn's at the 1997 Mr. Olympia and he got Third that year. For me, it's whatever inspires you and I thought Shawn's physique in 97 and 99 were awesome.
I absolutely think so too. Far superior physique to the likes of a very blocky Dorian Yates. People were & still is preoccupied with huge physiques rather than aesthetics & balance, after all that is what the heart of bodybuilding is isn't it?!
The guy seems to have a bad reputation among other bodybuilders (Lee Priest thinks he's the Son of Satan) and I don't know what that was all about, but he's articulate and great to listen to.....
Criminal that Ray didn't win Mr Olympia at least 3 times, but deserved 5 wins. The most aesthetically pleasing bodybuilder of all time, with stunningly full & defined muscle bellies with a sublime midsection!
This was a great little snippet, intelligent questions and high quality production. Well done. In hindsight I think Shawn Ray should probably have been awarded the '94 Mr Olympia title, not so much the torn bicep that DY presented, but rather you could just tell DY's waist was more reminiscent of todays problematic bloated guts, obliques not streamlined, pregnant looking etc, all because of a stomach illness I believe. Unfortunately when it came to posing he could control a lot of it, but just standing relaxed he did not look good, whereas Shawn Ray was the complete opposite, polished like no other, absolute perfection. Sometimes I think the slighter guy should win the day over the behemoth with issues, which DY definitely had on that particular outing. There doesn't seem to be a system in place for addressing stuff like this, a problem with the judging system rather than judges I would say, its still a problem today. I know many of us feel the same way about the outcome to that competition, so Shawn... rest easy.. for many of us you are an uncrowned Mr Olympia, you might not have a trophy to signify it, but I know a significant proportion of the fans of the sport feel this way, and that should mean more than a piece of metal on the mantel. And yes, if you were at your best today I believe you'd be winning non stop, your era was incredibly tough.
8:18 I’m glad he knows that there’s an argument in a couple years he should’ve won but he honestly should’ve went more in depth with that because he should’ve won in 1990,1994 and 1996 so that’s not just one sandow but atleast 3 that he never got to have n it’s pretty sad to think about looking back at it especially when going through certain mandatories and posing routines
Shawn Ray was one of the best during his time . He had symmetry , definition, thickness, and always ready to compete . Politics play a role in everything and Shawn always told it like it was.
I am objective, but have always liked Shawn's physique and followed his career. I definitely thought Shawn was robbed at least twice. He definitely should have beat Dorian for the 1996 Olympia.
Dorian was definitely somethin to behold, definitely had the OMG factor. But no question I would rather have Shawn's physique. Both were unattainable, which is part of the WOW, but Shawn Ray's physique was perfect, detailed beyond belief. The only nit-pick one could have is height.
Ronnie was clean until around 1996. The proof is in the pudding. He was tired of losing and his boy was Flex, and Flex put him into the gear, and the rest was history
Ronnie was natural in college around 220 lbs. When he started at Metro Flex gym that's when he started using some gear from Brian Dobson gym owner. The reality was Ronnie could not afford all the gear & did not have proper nutrition as he worked a full time job as a police officer plus a couple part-time jobs too. He considered retiring in 1995 as bodybuilding was not making money for him & any money he made from his sponsor Met-rx at the time was just enough money to put back in preparation for his next contest. Not until 1996 from the conversation with Flex Wheeler he was able to work with Chad Nichols to help with his nutrition & have access to more gear to progress rapidly from 1996-1998. From his 1st Mr. Olympia win in 1998 & we all know what happened next as he dominated the Olympia.
@@starforcefighter Flex was his best friend on the circuit, and they traveled together. Flex said Ronnie broke down and asked Flex to hook him up. He was done losing.
@@InvestBetter. Coleman stated this numerous times in interviews. Got tired of losing when he was bigger and stronger than guys. As he has stated his ego got to him.
Shawn Ray was another uncrowned Mr. Olympia and so was Kevin Levrone. Shawn had the complete package, but unfortunately politics sometimes plays into factor. Franco Colombo won with bad pecs an no separation in his thighs. Dorian Yates won 1994 with a torn bicep? Today's Mr. Olympia seem to be 5' 7" and 300 lb. They look like mutants.
something that really piss me off is when they say! ronnie was the G.O.A.T... what? he should return 6 mr.o statues! just look at his gut he got more and more and more pregnant and his waist got wide arms got smaller the triceps melted away and they still gave him the wins... i just hated his look.. how the hell could someone looking 23 month pregnant win mr.o? i was baffled!!!
? Why did Shawn Ray think he would win? Same thing happened with Arnold and Franco and Lee Haney and Lee Labrada. One guys obviously bigger and taller and the smaller guy lost. Bodybuilding judges favor size.
Flex Wheeler shoulda been Mr. Olympia. Flex was penalized for not looking the way he did at the Arnold’s Classic earlier in the year Ronnie won his first Olympia. But Flex Wheeler was the guy. Shawn Ray was great, but he wasn’t at that level. The greatest small guys I’ve ever seen were Frank Zane, Flex Wheeler, and Dexter Jackson. Love Shawn Ray, but I thought he was a notch below these guys.
@Brett.D I think BBing is literally a homosexual sport lol. I just thought it was funny that Billy wanted to throw salt at someone on the Olympia stage, when we've all seen pics of Billy
@jasonk876 no, it literally is a homosexual sport, I don't just think so. But I'm interested in most non-team sports, and bodybuilding as an art is interesting (at least before the bloated fridge era). Bodybuilding, the sport, is straight dick on dick
People are always talking about Dorian "bringing in a new era of "mass ", but I just don't agree. There were many aspects of Dorian's physique which were overshadowed by others in terms of size and mass. Frankly, if Arnold from '73-75 hit a front double-bi next to Dorian hitting a front double-bi, he would make Dorian look like he was buying fake gear. Dorian never had great arms, his back was thick when viewed from the rear but in arms-overhead poses from the front his lats were strangely small. He didn't have that 3D roundness and "pop" of delts, pecs and arms (like Levrone for example) which mean't that some poses were not setting any new standards (by a long shot). Also, his waist was thick and blocky with spilling-over obliques. He did have a unique density and grainy look, but to me that is not a substitute for great structure, proportion, and muscle belly shape. My point is that in many poses he didn't look bigger than other guys so this constant narrative of him "bringing in a new era of mass" is an echo chamber that I don't buy. Perhaps 20 of his supposedly extra pounds-on-the-scale were collected in the area below his nipples and above his cock...and those pounds don't count. When I hear the term "mass monster", I think of Dillett, not Dorian. Even an old Lou Ferrigno made dorian look underdeveloped in certain key upper body areas (and I'm not talking about height). To my eye, Dorian's best bodypart were his calves, but no one ever seems to talk about that.
"his back was thick when viewed from the rear but in arms-overhead poses from the front his lats were strangely small." pure nonsense, Dorian had crazy lats in the front double and especially abs and thighs. Have you ever seen his ab & thighs? Dorian's mass showed itself in direct comparison, not cut off standalone pictures due to him being flat almost every time. Flex was the opposite, he looked huge and bubbly at only 216 pounds...until he stood next to Dorian. Dorian wasn't a mass monster yet in 1992 and Lou had pis$ poor conditioning with fake calves. He was also bound to be huge just because he was so tall. His legs were atrocious and that's why he placed the way he placed.
He did. Ronnie is out there as the greatest bb ever. His name is a legacy and brand that his kids will benefit from. He out there opening multimillion dollar gyms
Baaically, ANY Olympia winner who won when Shawn competed against him..he didnt "they they would beat" him. This includes Lee Haney, Dorian and Ronnie. And this also includes aanyone who has placed above Shaen in any pro contest. Hes been pissing and whining since he turned pro in 1988. Just pathetic.
Shawn never considered Haney or Dorian would beat him either! And I bet they never thought he'd still be whining about it years later like a whiney little b-tch! 😅
RIVALS to RONNIE COLEMAN ,he took notice of him,what a load of rubbish ,imagine comparing these people ,no chance ,this guy has a big ticket on himself,he was so lucky that Lee priest didn't ,didn't do the tyson on him,he is full on himself .injury free,he is now taking the piss out of the goat.a big ,big guy always creams a small big guy ,ask any ifbb judge.
Man please! Shawn retired when he did because he knew that he was never going to be a Mr. Olympia, and he damn sure wasn’t going to beat Ronnie in his prime.
Shawn is and always has been delusional about his career and his place in bodybuilding history he was marginal at best. He wasn’t better than Ronnie, ,Flex, Dorian, Jay, Nasser, etc.
@@sugarshawnray LMAO yeah you beat them on their way up to Olympia stages not in you r prime as they won Olympia’ s ie: Jay, Dorian ,and Ronnie. Your Flex workout show was cool though I watched as a kid.
@@sugarshawnray I respect your era a lot more than the new age mass monsters with no aesthetics. Bubble guts aren’t and shouldn’t be the norm in bodybuilding. Even though you all were enhanced athletes back then too, it was a realistic look. Not cartoonish
@@johnvaters3353 Shawn Ray had one of the finest physiques in bodybuilding history. His balance, symmetry & those full to the max muscle bellies were extraordinary. To see anything less means that your knowledge of the sport is lacking!
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Shawn is one of the most versed and intelligent bodybuilder ever I love to hear his mind about bodybuilding and so on
True, most of them sound like a goofball and Lebron James 😂
Not a single controversial sentence Shawn said in these 8 minutes. In fact, totally rational.
Let's do the steel bitter because he ain't Mr Olympia that's why he stopped competing Sean wishes he was Mr Olympia to so cuz he's always a f****** loser he's bitter about it
@@mickshaw555 some people don't like him because his no bullsht personality
shawn ray is still in my top 10. great bodybuilder
I preferred Shawn's physique over Dorian's. I questioned the direction of bodybuilding too at the time.
Yep, Dorian was definitely better.
I do to.
Agreed Dorian was the better bodybuilder as far as bodybuilding judging is concerned however Shawn’s look was far more pleasing and was overall just better but that’s just my opinion because in reality he was never better then Dorian
Even though Dorian wasn’t around then I remember seeing Shawn in 1999 and thinking my favorite bodybuilder ever is going to win this in Flex Wheeler then seeing Shawn then plus his posing routine was just incredible like the pure wow factor and it hurt as I though he’s going to beat Flex & Ronnie it’s deserved though full respect but he definitely got done by the judges that year for certain!
Ray and Wheeler...biggest cry babies of their era
The mass monsters literally killed body building. Their peak ended it.@@PETKel-m6n
Shawn Ray was incredible in 1994 Mr Olympia with a very streamlined, symmetrical & polished physique!
I Named my son after him
Is he a crybaby?
I remember this guy from pre internet days where in asia we used to get magazines and I used to like this guy's body pics! really thoughtful notes about life and when to stop and do what is meaningful for yourself.
He is very well spoken.
Is he suppose to talk like a chimp?🤣🤣🤣
It's funny how as you get older you appreciate Shawn Ray, Lee Labrada and Frank Zane's physiques more than the monsters.
They were artists in the way they posed and sculpted their aesthetic physiques.
@@billsrippedfitnessover5047 I agree. Mass monsters kind of wrecked bodybuilding. I'm more of a Steve Reeves physique appreciator now.
@theunrealtournamentchannel kook at nick walker and say ronnie and Dorian didn't have condition you need your eyes checked mate nick looks like shit today is all about mass the monsters then had condition and were not 8 months pregnant on stage Shawn is bitter thought
@@tylerheldmann1 I never said anything about their condition! They're all less than 5% B.F. Mass is cool when it's complimentary. Unfortunately, many of today's bodybuilders look like rectangles instead of a V shape like CBum, Frank Zane, etc.
@theunrealtournamentchannel when I brought up cbum the fan boys tell you go to classic when it's the truth like you said that open looks blocky or rectangle mike mentzer had alot of mass but could do a perfect vacuum smaller waists are better to me so I agree with you the waists and stomachs are to big now cbum is everything a bodybuilder is supposed to be
If there was a Classic Physique division back then, Shawn would have owned it.
Or 212 ...
Shawn speaks his mind unabashedly. Let the chips fall where they may. I admire that.
Allways great To hear Shawn talk.
i took a pic with Shawn Ray when i was in Germany in the army. that dude smiled and flexed his bicepts next to my head and i smiled as well. when i saw the pic i was like damn, his arm was bigger than my head!!!!
Shawn Ray speaking truths and being vulnerable. He truly speaks highly of other bodybuilders, and especially Dorian.
I think mainly he has been called "controversial," or a "heel," is that he says what all of us are thinking. It's the exposition of uncomfortable truths that make other bodybuilders and coaches lose their minds.
Shawn is just an Old Fashion Straight Shooter. With feet firmly planted on the ground and NOT delusional.
Nah hes definetly delusional thinking he shouldve beat dorian lol. Thats the pinnacle of delusions
Most complete bodybuilder. Proportions conditions posing all top tier
Shawn Ray and Lee Haney.
Saw Shawn driving that Ferrari down Carbon Canyon Rd one day. Was definitely a sight to see.
He says he beat Ronnie 5 years in a row, but not Ronnie in his prime. The writing was on the wall
For me, my favorite physique was Shawn's at the 1997 Mr. Olympia and he got Third that year. For me, it's whatever inspires you and I thought Shawn's physique in 97 and 99 were awesome.
You did make the right decision - Ronnie in his prime and a young Jay Cutler in the wings - yeah, smart.
I could listen to Shawn all day. Thanks, mate.
Thanks for listening
Shawn was an amazing talent, but he was 210 max. On no planet was he beating Ronnie, on stage at 275-290, at 2-3% body fat
“Yeeaaah Buddy!”
Shawn Ray
Probably the best Physique of all time 🎉
No
@@THeDigiTalMoRPh7600 Absolutely!
I absolutely think so too. Far superior physique to the likes of a very blocky Dorian Yates. People were & still is preoccupied with huge physiques rather than aesthetics & balance, after all that is what the heart of bodybuilding is isn't it?!
Safety Glasses for a interview is wild!!
The guy seems to have a bad reputation among other bodybuilders (Lee Priest thinks he's the Son of Satan) and I don't know what that was all about, but he's articulate and great to listen to.....
The man is an asshole of a man and character, that's why ......It would be too much to list his bullshit and what he said and lied and shit on others.
Hes been whining and crying for over 30 years
Cause he speaks facts, and ppl don't like to hear the truth.
My favorite bodybuilder of all time right here
Respect, my favorite bodybuilder of all time shawn has 000000000000000000000”””””weakness
Very insightful guy..has alot of wisdom in the game of life
Criminal that Ray didn't win Mr Olympia at least 3 times, but deserved 5 wins. The most aesthetically pleasing bodybuilder of all time, with stunningly full & defined muscle bellies with a sublime midsection!
This was a great little snippet, intelligent questions and high quality production. Well done.
In hindsight I think Shawn Ray should probably have been awarded the '94 Mr Olympia title, not so much the torn bicep that DY presented, but rather you could just tell DY's waist was more reminiscent of todays problematic bloated guts, obliques not streamlined, pregnant looking etc, all because of a stomach illness I believe. Unfortunately when it came to posing he could control a lot of it, but just standing relaxed he did not look good, whereas Shawn Ray was the complete opposite, polished like no other, absolute perfection. Sometimes I think the slighter guy should win the day over the behemoth with issues, which DY definitely had on that particular outing. There doesn't seem to be a system in place for addressing stuff like this, a problem with the judging system rather than judges I would say, its still a problem today.
I know many of us feel the same way about the outcome to that competition, so Shawn... rest easy.. for many of us you are an uncrowned Mr Olympia, you might not have a trophy to signify it, but I know a significant proportion of the fans of the sport feel this way, and that should mean more than a piece of metal on the mantel.
And yes, if you were at your best today I believe you'd be winning non stop, your era was incredibly tough.
Awww that’s the Shawn Ray I remember. Articulate, angry, pouty, and over all crabby man 😮🎉😂
Hes been whining and crying for over 30 years
8:18 I’m glad he knows that there’s an argument in a couple years he should’ve won but he honestly should’ve went more in depth with that because he should’ve won in 1990,1994 and 1996 so that’s not just one sandow but atleast 3 that he never got to have n it’s pretty sad to think about looking back at it especially when going through certain mandatories and posing routines
Im sorry but Dorian was a much better physique. This is bodyBUILDING .
Shawn Ray was one of the best during his time . He had symmetry , definition, thickness, and always ready to compete . Politics play a role in everything and Shawn always told it like it was.
Shawns body hardly changed, everyone got better, he stayed the same !!
Last set.......best set.
Healthy life is any day better than crippled life.
Have some sensitivity bro. Not like this mate 🤦♂️
Dorian isnt crippled he looks great
I am objective, but have always liked Shawn's physique and followed his career. I definitely thought Shawn was robbed at least twice. He definitely should have beat Dorian for the 1996 Olympia.
Flex, Kevin L, and Shawn should have at least one Mr. Olympia under their belt.
Non of the current bbrs can give a good interview like this..
Dorian was definitely somethin to behold, definitely had the OMG factor. But no question I would rather have Shawn's physique. Both were unattainable, which is part of the WOW, but Shawn Ray's physique was perfect, detailed beyond belief. The only nit-pick one could have is height.
Why is he wearing safety glasses?
To protect his eyes
To protect his eyes
Ronnie was clean until around 1996. The proof is in the pudding. He was tired of losing and his boy was Flex, and Flex put him into the gear, and the rest was history
Ronnie was natural in college around 220 lbs. When he started at Metro Flex gym that's when he started using some gear from Brian Dobson gym owner. The reality was Ronnie could not afford all the gear & did not have proper nutrition as he worked a full time job as a police officer plus a couple part-time jobs too. He considered retiring in 1995 as bodybuilding was not making money for him & any money he made from his sponsor Met-rx at the time was just enough money to put back in preparation for his next contest. Not until 1996 from the conversation with Flex Wheeler he was able to work with Chad Nichols to help with his nutrition & have access to more gear to progress rapidly from 1996-1998. From his 1st Mr. Olympia win in 1998 & we all know what happened next as he dominated the Olympia.
@@starforcefighter Flex was his best friend on the circuit, and they traveled together. Flex said Ronnie broke down and asked Flex to hook him up. He was done losing.
@@InvestBetter. Yep👍, Kevin Levrone helped him too.
@@InvestBetter. Coleman stated this numerous times in interviews. Got tired of losing when he was bigger and stronger than guys. As he has stated his ego got to him.
Lol.
Dorian should not have won in 97.
Too bad there wasn't a 212 class back in Shawn's day - the battles he would have had with Lee Priest would have been EPIC!!!
Shawn's an idiot
Flex Wheeler and Shawn Ray... two of the greatest physiques of all time. No Olympia wins combined..... insane
2 of the biggest crybabies
@@Jeff-sp7bg kinda like you crying now?
Dorian really didn’t compare himself to Shawn
Nah- Jay started the prejudging about 10th… Fair placing for him in 2001.
Shawn Ray was another uncrowned Mr. Olympia and so was Kevin Levrone. Shawn had the complete package, but unfortunately politics sometimes plays into factor. Franco Colombo won with bad pecs an no separation in his thighs. Dorian Yates won 1994 with a torn bicep? Today's Mr. Olympia seem to be 5' 7" and 300 lb. They look like mutants.
Kevin levrone shouldve won. Shawn ray doesnt sniff the top 5. Im sorry but 5'4" and 220 lbs isnt goingbto cut it
something that really piss me off is when they say! ronnie was the G.O.A.T... what? he should return 6 mr.o statues! just look at his gut he got more and more and more pregnant and his waist got wide arms got smaller the triceps melted away and they still gave him the wins... i just hated his look.. how the hell could someone looking 23 month pregnant win mr.o? i was baffled!!!
Shawn Ray should of beat Dorien after Dorien tore his bicep, i understand the scoring system but that was just ridiculous to me.
? Why did Shawn Ray think he would win?
Same thing happened with Arnold and Franco and Lee Haney and Lee Labrada.
One guys obviously bigger and taller and the smaller guy lost. Bodybuilding judges favor size.
Flex Wheeler shoulda been Mr. Olympia. Flex was penalized for not looking the way he did at the Arnold’s Classic earlier in the year Ronnie won his first Olympia. But Flex Wheeler was the guy. Shawn Ray was great, but he wasn’t at that level. The greatest small guys I’ve ever seen were Frank Zane, Flex Wheeler, and Dexter Jackson. Love Shawn Ray, but I thought he was a notch below these guys.
Why's this guy wearing woodshop glasses?
He didn’t beat you he crushed you !!
What did you place again? Lmao we all know how your BBing went
@@littlethuggie The truth hurts...
@Brett.D I think BBing is literally a homosexual sport lol. I just thought it was funny that Billy wanted to throw salt at someone on the Olympia stage, when we've all seen pics of Billy
@@littlethuggie if you think it's a homosexual sport, then why are you watching this?
@jasonk876 no, it literally is a homosexual sport, I don't just think so. But I'm interested in most non-team sports, and bodybuilding as an art is interesting (at least before the bloated fridge era). Bodybuilding, the sport, is straight dick on dick
Short man syndrone
Should of won at least one Olympia
does this guy got a racquetball game going on or something?
Common Ray you were great but you weren't at the same level than the monsters hahaha
He doesn't want to be
People are always talking about Dorian "bringing in a new era of "mass ", but I just don't agree. There were many aspects of Dorian's physique which were overshadowed by others in terms of size and mass. Frankly, if Arnold from '73-75 hit a front double-bi next to Dorian hitting a front double-bi, he would make Dorian look like he was buying fake gear. Dorian never had great arms, his back was thick when viewed from the rear but in arms-overhead poses from the front his lats were strangely small. He didn't have that 3D roundness and "pop" of delts, pecs and arms (like Levrone for example) which mean't that some poses were not setting any new standards (by a long shot). Also, his waist was thick and blocky with spilling-over obliques. He did have a unique density and grainy look, but to me that is not a substitute for great structure, proportion, and muscle belly shape. My point is that in many poses he didn't look bigger than other guys so this constant narrative of him "bringing in a new era of mass" is an echo chamber that I don't buy. Perhaps 20 of his supposedly extra pounds-on-the-scale were collected in the area below his nipples and above his cock...and those pounds don't count. When I hear the term "mass monster", I think of Dillett, not Dorian. Even an old Lou Ferrigno made dorian look underdeveloped in certain key upper body areas (and I'm not talking about height). To my eye, Dorian's best bodypart were his calves, but no one ever seems to talk about that.
"his back was thick when viewed from the rear but in arms-overhead poses from the front his lats were strangely small."
pure nonsense, Dorian had crazy lats in the front double and especially abs and thighs. Have you ever seen his ab & thighs?
Dorian's mass showed itself in direct comparison, not cut off standalone pictures due to him being flat almost every time. Flex was the opposite, he looked huge and bubbly at only 216 pounds...until he stood next to Dorian.
Dorian wasn't a mass monster yet in 1992 and Lou had pis$ poor conditioning with fake calves. He was also bound to be huge just because he was so tall. His legs were atrocious and that's why he placed the way he placed.
He didn't beat you at life bro
Really ? Ronnie has more money , a wife , kids , a successful business is worth millions . He smashes him at life
@@billymimnaugh3998 I don't think so. Both have earned a name from BB and moved on. I'd say the competition helped them both and both "won" at life.
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@@billymimnaugh3998🤨🤨🤨
He did. Ronnie is out there as the greatest bb ever. His name is a legacy and brand that his kids will benefit from. He out there opening multimillion dollar gyms
Who watches this
Baaically, ANY Olympia winner who won when Shawn competed against him..he didnt "they they would beat" him. This includes Lee Haney, Dorian and Ronnie. And this also includes aanyone who has placed above Shaen in any pro contest. Hes been pissing and whining since he turned pro in 1988. Just pathetic.
It seems he never found out what is to be a real man...lol
Shawn never considered Haney or Dorian would beat him either! And I bet they never thought he'd still be whining about it years later like a whiney little b-tch! 😅
Haha
lol, has Shawn Ray ever even won a BB competition?
This guy sounds like a hater he’s mad Ronnie beat him
😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡
RIVALS to RONNIE COLEMAN ,he took notice of him,what a load of rubbish ,imagine comparing these people ,no chance ,this guy has a big ticket on himself,he was so lucky that Lee priest didn't ,didn't do the tyson on him,he is full on himself .injury free,he is now taking the piss out of the goat.a big ,big guy always creams a small big guy ,ask any ifbb judge.
Delusional
Ronnie wasn't better than Flex at all.
Man please! Shawn retired when he did because he knew that he was never going to be a Mr. Olympia, and he damn sure wasn’t going to beat Ronnie in his prime.
That's what he said
@@thegoat8447 Yet he still dwells on beating Ronnie before his prime, like that’s his crowning achievement.
@@dirtomega
Correct for 5 straight years!!!
Ronnie beat me 4 straight years.
Can you Add? 🤡
@@sugarshawnray Why would I add to a point that you just proved?🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
Shawn is and always has been delusional about his career and his place in bodybuilding history he was marginal at best. He wasn’t better than Ronnie, ,Flex, Dorian, Jay, Nasser, etc.
Lol
I beat all those guy sans Dorian.
Next …..😘😍😂
@@sugarshawnray LMAO yeah you beat them on their way up to Olympia stages not in you r prime as they won Olympia’ s ie: Jay, Dorian ,and Ronnie.
Your Flex workout show was cool though I watched as a kid.
@@sugarshawnray I respect your era a lot more than the new age mass monsters with no aesthetics. Bubble guts aren’t and shouldn’t be the norm in bodybuilding. Even though you all were enhanced athletes back then too, it was a realistic look. Not cartoonish
@@johnvaters3353 Shawn Ray had one of the finest physiques in bodybuilding history. His balance, symmetry & those full to the max muscle bellies were extraordinary. To see anything less means that your knowledge of the sport is lacking!