So, essentially control of Donbass allows for control of surrounding areas, thanks to the high mobility offered by it's infrastructural network. Yet because of that network and of it's built-up density, it is also easily defensible, and it cannot be reliably used as a springboard for future advances unless it isn't fully conquered first. Most of the succesful operations concerning Donbass and it's neighborhood seem to involve some flanking movements of sorts, to cut the place off, and force the defenders out by way of threat of encirclement, rather than direct action in the region. This consideration could explain why Russia in 2022 opted for the peripherical areas first rather than Donbass core itself, and also why Ukraine's counter offensive is aimed at denying control over such zones. Can't wait for part two. Excellent work as always, Eastory!
@@edr8882 keep in mind that this comment was posted by a guy who literally said that "Stalin is a great man" in a different comment and his account was created just about 1 month ago. Do not trust what he says. Edit: he edited his comment from three russian flags to three ukrainian flags. (he thinks he's funny)
"Stoped in Bakhmut" "Defended the Slaviansk-Kramatorsk line" "Breakthrough from Izium" "The gaps in the Izium breakthroughwere plugged, and the offensive stopped" "They were pushed back to the Oskil river" It all sounds so similar 💀
fun fact: Donetsk was originally called Yuzovka because it was founded by a Welsh businessman called John Hughes. The Red Army renamed it to Stalino and Khrushchev later renamed it to Donetsk
3:50 For those wondering, I believe the black "A" army represents the "Black Army" or "Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine." Per the Wikipedia entry, this was an anarchist/Makhnovist armed group which fought against the Whites, then against the Reds, then against the Whites in alliance with the Reds, then against the Reds once the Whites were in retreat...as with much about the Russian Civil War, its complicated.
i can hardly imagine the scale of ww2. Sure it was a total full on war and there were millions and millions of young poorest peasants guys from both sides. "2 mlns in the army group south", "175k got encircled", huge numbers. Now they are fighting like 200k vs 300k, and it is so hard to supply these small forces even with modern logistics. I cant imagine how much worse and chaotic it was back then....
Not to worry, it is still possible to supply such quantities of troops. Operation Desert Storm involved almost 1 million men on the coalition side, and 700,000 on the Iraqi side, with almost-constant air strikes from the former.
Well, the bottlenecks are worse because there is also less trucks, less horses, less inputs, less trains, less everything in fact. Not even enough personnel to drive trucks, repairs things... You have to scale up the logistic for supply, that is why for every soldier with a rifle in the us army there is maybe 7 or 10 other one carrying stuff, there in ukraine there is maybe 1 for 1 or less.
I found this a particularly awesome Eastory video (they are always impressive and interesting). I've read and seen so much on the eastern front (in both world wars and between them) but this has one of the most innovative, refreshing and interesting themes I've encountered. Can't wait for Part 2!
7:07 In case someone is confused as to why a Russian flag is on an Axis unit, it's not Russian. It's a unit from Slovak State which was Hitler's clerofascist puppet state
As a byproduct of you Donbass analytis, you also managed to make the most detailed video about Fall Blau. I know because I was looking for some sources on the opening phase of Fall Blau and there were none. Thank you, you are awesome. I noticed you didnt mention how much Russians were encircled at Milerovo, it seems nobody knows...
world war two channel? I think they cover it in-depth. They produced min. one video every week summarizing the events of the second world war in "real time" 79 years later... I highly suggest it
@@mazeltov6752 they are ok, but their maps are inaccurate and sometimes wrong. Definitely the Stalingrad campaign was, I didnt check it that much later
@@jakubstanicek6726 TIK has like 30 episodes lasting 45 minutes each of Fall Blau right from the start (even preparatory time), covering it day by day, in crucial moments even by hour, and he got to late Uranus by now. Still 2 months to go... Overall view it definitely is not, it is the most in depth narrative you can find anywhere, with data compiled form cca 6-7 books from renowned authors.
This vid really shows the value of your animated maps. Seeing a static map and reading pages and pages of historical writing doesn't convey the way the land shapes conflicts. Cheers for your hard work
One really small error 6:08 it shows 1921-1939 and Basarabia and northern Bucovina in the Soviet union. That happened in 1940. Perhaps it was intended cuz it is easier to animate the next sequence
I always absolutely love the professionalism of these videos, and the concise but never too oversimplified narratives. And great plug. You managed to make it very enticing!
Never imagined how the control of Donbass region was so important in Germany's Case Blue 1942 plan, really nice follow up for Eastory Eastern Front videos
Wow you don't forgot on Slovak Division (Slovakia is always forgoten in videos like this) as a Slovak I appreciate it I can't wait for second part Best ww2 content I've ever heard please continue
I think he sticked with Kharkiv to not upset people in the 21 century. But he forget all the other spellings in the video, and sticked to the historically Russian one, like Kiev, Zaporozhye, Lugansk, et cetera.
@@KatyaAbc575 but Odesa is Ukrainian spelling, the Russian spells it as Odessa. But fortunately that the map consisted with the correct name for that period, We already know the more popular one is Kiev not Kyiv (but I think to spell this two words are same)
When I saw the A, I thought that it had to be the black army that was under the direction of Nestor Makhno's and came up with an idea for a maybe future video. The video idea is about the black army with its offensive and fighting in Ukraine from 1919-23.
Much to think about here, what is it about the Donbass? Cities or urban areas would not stop the Germans in ww2, it must be combination of urban area, terrian and railway lines?
You made a mistake, during the Civil War Donetsk was called Yuzovka and during The Great Patriotic War it was Stalino. Although maybe it was intentional idk. And Lugansk was Voroshillovgrad during The Great Patriotic War
@@q3eq3eq65 In some respects, the USSR was indeed superior to the Wehrmacht, but on June 22, 1941, there were 5.5 million people in the Red Army. against the Wehrmacht with a total of 7.23 million people . In Germany and the Allied countries in 1941, the population was 250 million people, in the USSR - 200 million people.
This video is super interesting and sadly very current. I now understand both the history and the importance of the region. But what I don't fully understand is what it is that makes it so easy to defend/hard to conquer. Is it just the terrain? What terrain is it?
Not necessarly the terrain, but rather the urban build-up, which is a nightmare for everyone involved. Urban warfare is a nightmare for everyone involved, especially to the side that goes to the offensive.
Why did you sometimes use to Ukrnian names, like Khariv, but then sticked to historicaly Russia names in some other areas? Like Lugansk, Zaporozhye? In your original videos, you were consistent with historically Russian names like Kharkov.
cool channel, it’s just a pity that the video is like bloody then they don’t come out I like the animated video more and not on the map I hope there are more videos about the 15th - 19th century
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So, essentially control of Donbass allows for control of surrounding areas, thanks to the high mobility offered by it's infrastructural network. Yet because of that network and of it's built-up density, it is also easily defensible, and it cannot be reliably used as a springboard for future advances unless it isn't fully conquered first. Most of the succesful operations concerning Donbass and it's neighborhood seem to involve some flanking movements of sorts, to cut the place off, and force the defenders out by way of threat of encirclement, rather than direct action in the region. This consideration could explain why Russia in 2022 opted for the peripherical areas first rather than Donbass core itself, and also why Ukraine's counter offensive is aimed at denying control over such zones. Can't wait for part two. Excellent work as always, Eastory!
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@@edr8882 nazi
@@edr8882 my reaction to that information:
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@@edr8882 keep in mind that this comment was posted by a guy who literally said that "Stalin is a great man" in a different comment and his account was created just about 1 month ago. Do not trust what he says.
Edit: he edited his comment from three russian flags to three ukrainian flags. (he thinks he's funny)
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"Stoped in Bakhmut"
"Defended the Slaviansk-Kramatorsk line"
"Breakthrough from Izium"
"The gaps in the Izium breakthroughwere plugged, and the offensive stopped"
"They were pushed back to the Oskil river"
It all sounds so similar 💀
"They abandoned Lysychansk" Naaaah
Yea I thought this was about the current war until he said Bulshavics
HISTORY RHYMES
Give its a few more weeks
history repeats itself,maybe its not exactly the same but pretty similar,so close enough
fun fact: Donetsk was originally called Yuzovka because it was founded by a Welsh businessman called John Hughes. The Red Army renamed it to Stalino and Khrushchev later renamed it to Donetsk
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] Belgorod is Ukrainian 😍🤩🥳🥰😇
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] Kamchatka is Canada 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] derbent is azerbaijan
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] you got ratiod. St Petersburg is Sweden.
@@balothYT Usa
"We will cover that in the next episode"
Music to my ears! The production value on these videos is insane, please keep it up.
Ino haha
Interesting video. Obviously it's pre-industrialization so the Donbas wasn't that important but there was a big Mongol victory in that area
I thought to add it, chose to make the video more focused.
It's like Belgium, every army has to pass that way...
The flat Ukrainian Steppe was perfect for moving large Calvary armies, which made it an ideal invasion route for the mongol forces.
Not exactly in the Donbas in the tradition meaning of the word
Make a video :
Why the donbass industrial place is interesting
3:50 For those wondering, I believe the black "A" army represents the "Black Army" or "Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine." Per the Wikipedia entry, this was an anarchist/Makhnovist armed group which fought against the Whites, then against the Reds, then against the Whites in alliance with the Reds, then against the Reds once the Whites were in retreat...as with much about the Russian Civil War, its complicated.
They are too Anarchic for their own...... *badumm tss*
Их девиз был: бей красных, пока не побелеют, бей белых, пока не покраснеют)
@@kot-matros4075 translation: "Their motto was: hit the reds until they turn white, hit the whites until they turn red." Sounds about right.
@@TomG1555 Very accurate translation
apparently they were also allied with the short-lived ukraine for the time period that had existed for a few years
It's upsetting to see the same lands ravaged by war time and time again.
Belgium:
Poland:
Nah bro its the quarantine zone, keep it over there
maybe don't allow the US to stage coups that antagonize your neighbors
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH I LİKE THİS ODDS
-Poland
i can hardly imagine the scale of ww2. Sure it was a total full on war and there were millions and millions of young poorest peasants guys from both sides. "2 mlns in the army group south", "175k got encircled", huge numbers. Now they are fighting like 200k vs 300k, and it is so hard to supply these small forces even with modern logistics. I cant imagine how much worse and chaotic it was back then....
Not to worry, it is still possible to supply such quantities of troops. Operation Desert Storm involved almost 1 million men on the coalition side, and 700,000 on the Iraqi side, with almost-constant air strikes from the former.
Well, the bottlenecks are worse because there is also less trucks, less horses, less inputs, less trains, less everything in fact. Not even enough personnel to drive trucks, repairs things... You have to scale up the logistic for supply, that is why for every soldier with a rifle in the us army there is maybe 7 or 10 other one carrying stuff, there in ukraine there is maybe 1 for 1 or less.
Fascinating video as always, thanks for all the hard work. Looking forward to the next part!
I have missed the usually used Number of POW at Encirclement, but very interesting Video!
Me when no encirclement pow:😭
What do you mean by number?
@@NoymoHD the number of POWs was usually shown, like the number of total soldies.
@@KlingelTimi. oh, ok i thought you meant pow was a number and i was confused
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I found this a particularly awesome Eastory video (they are always impressive and interesting). I've read and seen so much on the eastern front (in both world wars and between them) but this has one of the most innovative, refreshing and interesting themes I've encountered. Can't wait for Part 2!
I fully agree!
7:07 In case someone is confused as to why a Russian flag is on an Axis unit, it's not Russian. It's a unit from Slovak State which was Hitler's clerofascist puppet state
As a byproduct of you Donbass analytis, you also managed to make the most detailed video about Fall Blau. I know because I was looking for some sources on the opening phase of Fall Blau and there were none. Thank you, you are awesome. I noticed you didnt mention how much Russians were encircled at Milerovo, it seems nobody knows...
@@LiamN4321 Yeah, but thats more of an overall view, nothing close to this
@@LiamN4321 can't get more detailed than TIK :)
world war two channel? I think they cover it in-depth.
They produced min. one video every week summarizing the events of the second world war in "real time" 79 years later...
I highly suggest it
@@mazeltov6752 they are ok, but their maps are inaccurate and sometimes wrong. Definitely the Stalingrad campaign was, I didnt check it that much later
@@jakubstanicek6726 TIK has like 30 episodes lasting 45 minutes each of Fall Blau right from the start (even preparatory time), covering it day by day, in crucial moments even by hour, and he got to late Uranus by now. Still 2 months to go... Overall view it definitely is not, it is the most in depth narrative you can find anywhere, with data compiled form cca 6-7 books from renowned authors.
Very interesting analysis. Especially the immediate post-WWI situation
This vid really shows the value of your animated maps.
Seeing a static map and reading pages and pages of historical writing doesn't convey the way the land shapes conflicts.
Cheers for your hard work
When you make a video, the day just becomes 10 times better
This video has convinced me that an Eastory Russian Civil War video is essential
*eastory but yeah
it absolutley is!
One really small error 6:08 it shows 1921-1939 and Basarabia and northern Bucovina in the Soviet union. That happened in 1940. Perhaps it was intended cuz it is easier to animate the next sequence
You missed there not being Poland too xd
Honestly this is the most informative, detailed and high quality channel here.
A chaotic premiere chat war but a great video, Good job Eastory!!!
Im a simple man, i see a Eastory video, i like it!
Always exciting when Eastory posts a new video. Thank you for your work
Great content! Appreciate the correlation between the battles fought in the past and those happening today. A unique approach and great appreciated.
Honestly dissapointed that the Mahknovschina weren't talked about, seeing as how their insurgency was incredibly important to victory in that area.
every time you upload is such a breath of fresh air
Amazing video and I know it takes a lot of time to prepare for this given the number of units you need to research. Thank you Eastory!!
Thank you so much for uploading
Do you know the legend about Makiivka Rodnichok?
Не забудем не _простим !
Gruesome
Great video! Thanks for an accurate and thorough representation of the Russo-Ukrainian history.
Ukrainian history? Nonsense)
Now thats what I call: a good video!
I always absolutely love the professionalism of these videos, and the concise but never too oversimplified narratives. And great plug. You managed to make it very enticing!
Ok, this is a great video. I really hope you make more of them that are also longer!
I love the very specific granular details!
PLEASE MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS. LOVE IT!!!!!
Informative as always!
Interesting historical perspective, good maps
Never imagined how the control of Donbass region was so important in Germany's Case Blue 1942 plan, really nice follow up for Eastory Eastern Front videos
Verdict: I like your video.
Wow you don't forgot on Slovak Division (Slovakia is always forgoten in videos like this) as a Slovak I appreciate it
I can't wait for second part
Best ww2 content I've ever heard please continue
Too much of proud?
Verdict. I like this channel.
It seems your graphics look even better than before - at least to me.
They seem more colorful and more, 'crisper' looking.
Thanks for this video.
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Amazing. Beautifully done!
Eastory....so nice to see you again!
Great video!
how do you decide which spelling to use for towns? for example I have seen Kiev and Kyiv
Kiev is Russian transliterated, Kyiv is in Ukrainian language.
In this video it's both Ukrainian and Russian spelling, like Kharkov, Lugansk, (Russian) and Odesa, Makiivka (Ukrainian)
I think he sticked with Kharkiv to not upset people in the 21 century. But he forget all the other spellings in the video, and sticked to the historically Russian one, like Kiev, Zaporozhye, Lugansk, et cetera.
@@KatyaAbc575 but Odesa is Ukrainian spelling, the Russian spells it as Odessa. But fortunately that the map consisted with the correct name for that period, We already know the more popular one is Kiev not Kyiv (but I think to spell this two words are same)
Well I did My Heritage, found out my ancestors lived in a cave 50,000 years ago in Siberia.
Mine were Pharaos in Egypt! Now I'm claiming the pyramids 😂
And again a fantastic video, I like history and your videos are one of the best ones I've ever seen.
This was crazy interesting and also weird seeing the exact same locations being fought over
Fascinating, and your animation work is really good! Hope to see a sequel
Мкейвский родничок никогда не простим😢😢🕯️🕯️
не простим!
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I have been wondering lately...... What editing software do you use to make these beautiful videos?????
I use Blender
@@Eastory Ok thank you! Can you make a tutorial at some point? It would be really interesting to see how you make these videos
Damn Blender
When I saw the A, I thought that it had to be the black army that was under the direction of Nestor Makhno's and came up with an idea for a maybe future video. The video idea is about the black army with its offensive and fighting in Ukraine from 1919-23.
A very interesting video, you say more tactical information than some famous sites, I didn't know it was so hard to assault that area.
When that -75.00% attack terrain penalty kicks in
Thank you for this great and informative video.
Awesome mapping 😎
every video is of the very highest quality
Thank you for the cool video!
SO EXCITED FOR THE NEXXT VID!! EASTORY COVERING 21st CENTURY COMBAT
Great video, great content! Love strategy and history. As it is vital to us in the present and future.
Hello! In which app you make the animation or which app do you use?
aw hell yeah new Eastory video
This could be the next best indie game of the decade
next to the tunic and hollowknight?
Very impressive, as all your video's are.
I'm excited for the next episode.
Really great visuals.
I love your movies. Greetings from Poland :)
I love these round units on the map👍 please remake the videos of eastern front 1941-1945 even more detailed with more Divisions
Excellent info!!
Much to think about here, what is it about the Donbass? Cities or urban areas would not stop the Germans in ww2, it must be combination of urban area, terrian and railway lines?
Precisely
Urban areas, plus forests, plus hills, plus multiple rivers, plus railway lines.
THE KING IS BACK
You made a mistake, during the Civil War Donetsk was called Yuzovka and during The Great Patriotic War it was Stalino. Although maybe it was intentional idk. And Lugansk was Voroshillovgrad during The Great Patriotic War
Luhansk*
@@슬라바우크라이나헤로 Lugansk, thats how its called oficially
superb video
Checking the number of Soviet troops that died in those battles is quite creepy. Specially when you compare it to the German loses.
But germans had a lot less manpower
@@q3eq3eq65 so?
@@q3eq3eq65 The Axis in 1942 had more able bodies than the Soviet Union
@@q3eq3eq65 In some respects, the USSR was indeed superior to the Wehrmacht, but on June 22, 1941, there were 5.5 million people in the Red Army. against the Wehrmacht with a total of 7.23 million people . In Germany and the Allied countries in 1941, the population was 250 million people, in the USSR - 200 million people.
@@MarkIsTiredAlways so you should compare losses by percentage to see how big damage it was to any country
¡Great work!
Yo your back
Небольшое историко-географическое замечание: Донецк в 1914-1920 г.г. назывался Юзовка, в 1939-1940-х назывался Сталино, а Луганск - Ворошиловград.
Yay finaly new video
Great video
Great analysis
I trying to find where my grand-grandfather died
It was an romanian sergent on guard unit in ww2 who died in 1941
Any help will be rewarded
Thanks
this is so good!
What program is used to create these maps, they are incredible.
This video is super interesting and sadly very current. I now understand both the history and the importance of the region. But what I don't fully understand is what it is that makes it so easy to defend/hard to conquer. Is it just the terrain? What terrain is it?
Not necessarly the terrain, but rather the urban build-up, which is a nightmare for everyone involved. Urban warfare is a nightmare for everyone involved, especially to the side that goes to the offensive.
@@extrahistory8956 Yes, we have a city to move into a city, or a village. Also, there are more heaps.
Outstanding!
Apart from the advert, most entertaining and enlightening.
Why did you sometimes use to Ukrnian names, like Khariv, but then sticked to historicaly Russia names in some other areas? Like Lugansk, Zaporozhye? In your original videos, you were consistent with historically Russian names like Kharkov.
Vinge video, Oskar!
3:21 read something about that in R. Gerwarth "The vanquished"
Interesting idea for a video, interesting information.
What editor or application do you use for your videos?
can you make a tutorial how to make videos like yours, they're really inspiring!
can't wait for the current events episode!
Incredible content !? Can u do it with more moderns conflicts such as Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Balkans ?
Armies outside of donbass: this river will be our new defensive line
Armies inside of donbass: these set of windows will be our new defensive line
Hey Eastory, which software do you use?
I think than its a good idea to talk more about the russien civil war in this chanel. In all of its fronts
Definately the sort of topic that deserves greater quality coverage.
what program do you use?
cool channel, it’s just a pity that the video is like bloody then they don’t come out I like the animated video more and not on the map I hope there are more videos about the 15th - 19th century
What program do you use to create maps?