Inside the asylum... Capitanochad : JUST YOU WAIT, CAPITANO WILL BE PLAYED 6.X TRUST ME, GET ME OUT OF HERE an eerie voice can be heard from the dark corners of the asylum Eerie voice : AHAHAHAHAHAHAH Capitanochad : who... WHO ARE YOU? Eerie voice : ME? YOU ARE ASKING ME WHO AM I? The person steps up to the sunlight, radiating from the asylum windows. Revealing their face. Lasignora sigma : I am you from three years ago.
Capitano : "i finally at peace" Hoyo HQ :"Sir, our revenue has been on downhill from several patches" Da Wei :"Dont worry.... I have a plan" ..... Da Wei : "Wakey wakey little boi.... " Capitano :"Dude... What the fuck? "
After that specific scene with Ororon questioning if Capitano ever sleeps, I think bro is just taking a nap. He’s earned it after carrying countless souls for hundreds of years. I bet he’ll “wake up” either during some later point in Natlan’s AQ, or when we eventually get to Schneznaya. As for how, I like the “story becomes soul” theory personally.
@@Suited_Nat I came up with a way for Redeeming Dottore before, but now it seems unrealistic. Like: "Oh this one is a Good one cuz he's the latest Clone and did nothing wrong" but I'm sure this is not how Hoyo would cook + this one is the Last remaining Dottore and he has to Burn the Irminsul SO for that he'd be done for. So yeah another BACKSHOTS. Imagine what would Happen if Columbina just turns into Seele or Dies instead of being playable? Oh THAT would make Hoyo delete Genshin.
@@Suited_Nat I'm ok with Dottore dying. I want us the player to fight him. I hope he becomes a weekly boss so we can beat him up with Collei and Wanderer every week.
I feel like for the rank 1 harbinger, we barely knew him and he has so much potential in the story pertaining to Nod Krai and the Fatui-focused patches that will be coming this or next year. It would be a waste to permanently kill off one of the most anticipated and hyped characters of the Fatui when he could play a huge part in the bigger picture in Snezhnaya and Khaenri'ah. He also seems to scorn the 5 Sinners which amplifies the idea of him returning. He has a score to settle against the 5 Sinners for causing the suffering of him and the Khaenri'ahn people. Imagine the hype seeing OUR CAPTAIN and Dainsleif and potential future Khaenri'ahns we meet clashing against the 5 Sinners, it's literally CINEMA. Additional theories and speculations: Capitano absorbed the souls of his men because they had nowhere to go. His primary goal was to find a home for the souls and memories of his men, not to explicitly die because of plot convenience. The souls could not return to the ley lines as Natlan's ley lines were destroyed during the battle between the Heavenly Principles and sovereign dragons. They couldn't enter the Night Kingdom due to the conditions set by Xbalanque and Ronova's deal. Thus, he had to become the master of the ley lines to change the rules and repair the ley lines to allow the souls of his fallen men that he had been carrying for over 500 years to rest in the Night Kingdom. He could not rest due to the torment and voices of all the souls that had been residing in him. Now that he had released the souls into the Night Kingdom, he can finally have his first rest in 500 years. In the AQ, The Captain said: "But death... is the end I have been trying to reach all along. I have come this far to use my death to open the gates of the Ley Lines to my people." This suggests that he had always wanted to merge with the LotN to rewrite the rules and allow the souls he had been carrying with him to rest in the Night Kingdom. You could say he has achieved his main goal, but let's not forget that The Captain said there was someone he had a score to settle with. Perhaps it could be some other entity, Celestia as a whole, the Five Sinners, or it's just Ronova. Capitano claimed he wanted revenge and Ronova is still active and she still has her grasp on Teyvat. If I had that much hatred against the person that caused me and my family's suffering, I would not stop here by remaining dormant forever on the throne. There are still bigger fish to catch in the grand scheme of things. He had already achieved this goal, and making him stay dead would be a MASSIVE waste of character potential for the future of the story. Not to mention the STONKS Hoyo could generate, which makes me believe that Hoyo making him stay dormant for now and release him as a character of the new element teased in Nod Krai, which he could be using, and will generate so much money for Hoyo. I believe he will return, and the cutscene where he stands up from his throne will be epic. Imagine this: the 1st of the Fatui Harbingers, supposedly the pinnacle of human strength, having powers that rival that of a god, dying permanently in the 6th nation with fewer than 100 lines total. You're telling me all this hype for the ranked 1 Harbinger of this mysterious powerful group from Snezhnaya met his end in this way after being hyped since the Winter's Night Lazzo trailer release and Mika's lines about him since 3.5? Hoyo has left his conclusion open-ended where people are able to come up with many theories on his resurrection due to how he resembles Jesus -- his 3 nails constellation, being righteous and all, bla bla bla. Now, go back to Act 5 of the Archon Quest. Remember how Guthred appeared to help us quell the abyssal enemies in the Night Kingdom? This Guthred was created from people's stories about his heroic deeds for Natlan. The story Guthred was noble and heroic, whilst the real Guthred, who was still inside Capitano's heart, is described as pragmatic and will sacrifice anything for the greater good. Hoyo could have just removed this part in the Archon quest, but they insisted on adding this part in. Why? This was intentional on their part to foreshadow the potential return of the Captain. Remember how at the end of the quest when the children were listening to the story of Mavuika, Traveler and Capitano saving Natlan? Now these stories will continue to spread far and wide over Natlan, which could create a story version of Capitano's soul who will possess The Captain's body and return to Teyvat. There was also a female NPC called Luta at Capitano's memorial where she stated her father told her the story where Thrain fought alongside with Natlan's warriors when she was little. Hoyo made his body on the throne breathe specifically to show that his body is still alive, while his soul is dwelling in the Night Kingdom due to his new role as Master of the Ley Lines. They could've just removed his breathing animation with just a few clicks of a button, but no. This was definitely intentional. The theory of his inevitable return can also be supported by how the Fatui agents in Mondstadt were saying that the Tsaritsa allowed Capitano to keep his 1st Harbinger spot despite him being supposedly 'dead'. This could be to honor his contributions for the Fatui out of respect, but I doubt it, because Crucabena, was replaced by Peruere who later became Arlecchino, as the 4th Harbinger (supposedly), and Signora's 8th spot is labelled as 'vacant'. The Mondstadt Fatui agents were not sad about the loss of their ranked 1 Harbinger even though he is considered the most respected Harbinger, which is also another clue for his return, while Signora's death "shocked many Fatui, who expressed surprise at her demise. Some of her subordinates in Inazuma remained to exact revenge on the Shogunate, while ones in other nations were recalled to Snezhnaya to await news on who their new commanding Harbinger would be. Meanwhile, some other branches in the Fatui saw Signora's vacancy as an opportunity to promote other Harbingers' agendas, such as with Efim Snezhevich's plan to build Arlecchino's prestige by sabotaging the peace talks between the Shogunate and the Watatsumi forces," as stated from La Signora's Genshin fandom page. Story Guthred theory here is inspired by u/Tech5565's post on r/Genshin_Lore subreddit. There are people who find the entire 5.0 - 5.3 story plot unsatisfactory and underwhelming, but Capitano's return could change their perspective, and also retain and fix Genshin's quickly diminishing player base. Hoyo had already laid down all the foundation for OUR GLORIOUS KING'S RETURN, it's now just a matter of when. In other words, MAINTAINING THE AGENDA IS MY TOP PRIORITY OUR GLORIOUS KING WILL RETURN
@@SmithyPL Yes, it could be out of respect for his contributions for the Fatui agenda or the inevitable return of our king but I choose to believe the latter
Also one of his main goals seemed to be laying the souls he had been carrying to rest in the Night Kingdom, which he has already achieved. Now the question is, will he continue being the master of the ley lines to repair it or will there be a plot device that will allow him to return to his body to continue his duties as our GLORIOUS KING???
For those eager for more clear answers, Capitano's files point toward him being playable: Unlike the other NPCs during the Natlan war quest, his profile is categorized with other playable characters. His sword is labeled the same way alhaitham's sword is, suggesting that it might be a skill mode His model is labeled as a playable character model. Signora's model was NOT labeled this way; Scara's was. MOREOVER, according to the harbinger wheel boss theory, starting from childe, the harbingers are getting released as bosses in order and its been this way with the last 4. According to the wheel, Columbina should be the next boss, which makes sense due to a lot of evidence suggesting that she'll be the next harbinger to come retrieve the pyro gnosis. After Columbina is Capitano, meaning that he'll likely be making a return. according to all the evidence we have, there's a decent chance he WILL be playable.
It seems like the Tsaritsa is aware of his plans, which is why she has kept him in his position as the first Fatui Harbinger. The throne he sits on even faces the theorized location of Snezhnaya, with the mysterious Cryo cubes surrounding him. The Natlan story quest remains unfinished, and Mavuika hasn’t revealed the secrets Dainsleif hinted at in the Traveler trailer. There’s also the deleted names in the Pyro gemstone description, along with the strange fight against the dragon-like weekly boss in the Archon quest. So many questions are still left unanswered. Either the developers are preparing something for future patches, or they simply didn’t follow through with their plans.
I mean, dude. Have the Fatuis not received Gnosis? So it's obvious that the quest hasn't ended yet, either there will be act 6, or they will make a continuation in the Dainsleif quest or they will make an Interlude quest and make it mandatory.
@iosis9324 I'm assuming ur responding to me. I just wanted to confirm where 1 sentence was said lmao. Ik it's not over, I just wanted to see if the sentence was dropped in a dialogue I've alr played No need to come off like that
As much as I want him to be playable, I want him to be at ease, at least when he decide not to, he not only deserve this, he earned it himself, if he decide to comeback, he will be welcome in the arms of his soldiers, friends and allies as one of natlan's greatest heroes
Yeah, as much as I want to see him move, hearing his voice, and be a good friends with him, as long as he is happy and at ease that way I don't mind. He deserves it after all what he have been through. Tho I can't say that I'm not sad 🥺 It feels like when you root for the green flag sub male lead in romance manga/manhwa/ manhua. We know that he won't be the main male lead and ended up with the heroine. But you still root for him and wish for his happiness no matter what happens because he deserves it for all his sacrifices
this is the spirit of a REAL Capitano (and fatui) fan. Let the king rest, he deserves it. If he wants to stand up once more, that's his choice and will
i mean.. writers and devs decide if he "wants" to wake up to become playable. judging by how gnshin is turning into honkai impact, I am not trusting hoyo we will get any male harbingrs playable anymore..
His body getting possessed by the soul of his tales is a nice theory, though I don't want to make high expectations and let my hopes up but I wish it is
If Capitano ever becomes playable, it will probably be at the climax of the archon quest where we finally confront the heavenly principles. Like when we finally fight the ruler of death or something, then he'll come to our aid.
Yeah it always bothered me the fact that we don't know why he even joined the Fatui in the first place, because when you think about it he didn't have a reason to do. His goal is to save Natlan from the abyss and put the souls inside him in peace. If he stayed in Natlan he would still managed to fulfill his goal regadless. There's still many unsolved questions and mysteries about him.
My guess is that Pierro simply convinced him. Or maybe he and Capitano simply wanted to create soldiers as strong, advanced and skilled as Khaenri'ah's, and that's how Fatui came to be. But as we've seen, each Harbinger has their own way of leading their soldiers, and therefore it may seem that it's actually a bad organization in the eyes of others...
??? Huh it has already been known that Tsarisa honors their own motive. They all just have 1 common goal is the hate for Heavenly Principles and maybe the 5 Sinners
Joining the fatui is actually quite a good idea for strong peeps. You gain troops and support while at the same time, you can run your own motives and do your own things. Its quite a chill org except for well, super strong and powerful people in it that can cause a lot of conflict.
Fatui is just a group that you can join if you're strong enough. The Tsaritsa is respected by many of the Harbingers but most of them such as Arle has declared that she'll defect if she deems that her own organization will be in grave danger. Heck, most of the Fatui grunts will only take orders from their own Harbinger, Citlali's new quest have shown that. As a Harbinger, you just need to get the Gnosis and do her tasks, heck you don't even need that tbh, Capitano aka the 1st Harbinger asked the Tsaritsa to get someone else and she's alright with it. Really goofy organization unless you're unlucky enough to be with some evil ass Harbingers tbh.
@@chihaotran1568 Sure but that hatred towards the Sinners or Heaveny Principles weren't explored in Capitano character at all. His main goal was again to put souls inside him in peace and save Natlan which he could done even if he didn't join Fatui
Everyone saying he's getting a Wanderer treatment, but what if he will get a Furina treatment? Instead of "reviving" or "reborn" , maybe he'll come back as a mortal human somehow someway with his immortality finally gone (so eventually he will die normally like he wish to) 🧐
Probably, HoYo doesn't like fully masked characters and being male they would need to unmask him to market him to the respective fan base and the only way to do that is for him to be cleansed of his decaying body.
@@Ali-cya yeah, plus they already have design for pre-Fatui Capitano (aka Thrain) so if he ever returning, I'm pretty sure he will be of different design than his current self
Immortal doesn't mean he's a God. And he gave is immortal soul to the Night Kingdom and regenerated it so everyone outside Natlan who will die now will join the NightKingdom instead of be lost forever.
I must confess that I mostly pull hot male chara because I am thirsty but only for Capitano, I don't care what he looks like. I'm falling because of his righteous heart. Golden and unblemished. But he is now resting right? After those long, long, sleepless night filled with screeching agony of countless memories of death To be honest, the thought of hoyo handsome-washing him kinda pissed me. He is fine as he is! I can't say I'm not curious what he looks like in the past but just a photo is enough for me. Also if he is free from his erosion, he won't be in pain anymore right? I love him as he is now but if he is not in pain I will be happy for him 🤧👉👈
@@Ali-cya the thing is, the helmet is part of his allure. I would roll for him as he is with no changes. I think most capitano wanters are the same way. We can never see his face and be happy with that.
He hasn’t slept for hundred of years, he needs his rest. I could see him coming back when the time comes in the war of teyvat between celestia, fatui, abyss order, abyss and the seven nations. Because I feel like his duties will bring his soul back to finish certain businesses
When god of death tries to attack Natlan during the invasion (because i assume all 7 nations including abyss sibling agreed with tsaritsa plan, lord of the night awaken the captain in his prime form, fighting 1v1 against that bitch!
as I said on your Capitano Story video, he's similar to the Lich King from Warcraft, everything about absorbing souls, the icy throne, icy sword, his attire, and the pose also.... if Hoyo really took inspiration from the Lich King, then he could be "resurrected" in the future....
@@TheHellleader I know that Arthas is an evil mf, that's why I mentioned the similarities of their appearance only, and maybe a bit of their lore settings, such as the destruction of Lordaeron and Khaenriah although it's Arthas himself who destroyed Lordaeron....
I have a feeling that natlan story is not done yet. Yes the threat is no more, but there are still some unanswered plot. 1. Do they really want to end the stoey when we haven't even unlock iansan tribe? 2. The gnosis still with mavuika. 3. The pyro gemstone desc still censored. 4. Capitano paeadox still happening. 5. Ignition teaser ball game has yet to begin. Ashikai actually made a very good theory about how the ball game happening AFTER the AQ, which make a lot of sense since: 1. Kachina and mualani trying to "promote" the game. They did this because it's a new tradition in Natlan and who could be better to promote it than Kachina the rising star of the pilgrimage. 2. With the crisis is over everyone can compete in the competition, they even invite citlali someone who seems to not care about the night warden war. 3. And you know who else got invited to the game? Capitano. Remember no outlander is allowed to participate in the pilgrimage that's literally the entire reason why we need lord of the night to make us an ancient name, and yet in the ignition teaser mavuika invite capitano someone who's not only an outlander but also someone without an ancient name. And listen to the way she invite him. She sound so friendly instead of being hostile because this is not their first encounter, they are a rival now and probably want to settle the score. 4. That invitation scene alone might be the biggest proof that he will return at some point in the future. All of this might happene on mavuika second story quest or maybe they'll make another interlude.
Wait, I actually never thought about the ball game being after the quest. There's also a scene in the aq where mavuika recite the quotes of the pyro gemstone but she stopped before saying the final line. That censored part is definitely going to be reveal in future story. Regarding Capitano though, I am sure he'll be back cause not only that his pose is the exact replica to the lich king from warcraft but i have a feeling when he return we will finally see his glowing blue eyes shining from the throne
Don't forget the weird flame thing we saw on that teaser (the one Mavuika spoke with at the very end). We still don't know who/what it was or what was its purpose/story.
The fact that they have him interactable tells me, personally, he could possibly come back because there is really no reason for us to offer flint to him. that could have occurred at several other locations concerning the night kingdom. Also, they could have had his body completely disappear as well to solidify he aint coming back. Hoyo keeping him around for something and the night kingdom will have not use for him when we become the loom of fate.
@@txuan4043 This is where I think him being the first fatui harbinger could come at play. We don't know what he wants, but maybe being so responsible and still the first fatui harbinger, he might come back for his loyalty towards the Tsaritsa? Tho then the question becomes whether or not he needs to come back or if he needs to stay in the night kingdom and have authority over Natlan's leylines as a fatui too.
@@mrbnhafanatic3454 I'm not talking abt his personal goal, I'm talking abt his duty as the first fatui harbinger and "what he wants" there was to mean whether he wants to come back or not, like if he wants to wake up or not, to which I think him being the first fatui harbinger could come at play cuz we basically don't know what the fatui needs and wants (like...their detailed plan and what role Capitano needs to play for that).
I think so. Hi3 has a sub story called the captain-verse where he tries to find himeko, whom he believes to be alive in the quantum sea. In every encounter, the captain would see a new himeko and try to get a happy ending for the world's tragedy. It usually ends with him killing himself until his allies try to resurrect him
Even though Capitano was "sacrificed" but with him possessing great lore + a personality like a respectable *captain*, perhaps his return one day is possible..
He's still rank 1, Tsaritsa retains his ranking (NPC Fatui talk about it in Mondstadt after 5.3 quest). Not a fan of him because Genshin community choses bad guys as their faves while all Fatui should be long dead for their crimes, but he will return for sure, he is a master of leylines now as fused being with Lord of the Night, they will make him to take new physical form somehow, maybe even as an "Angel".
@@SmithyPL but in genshin we still don't really know who the bad guy or the good one yet. Can be the heavenly principle, can only be the 5 sinners. Who knows
@@SmithyPL But Capitano or Thrain isn't a bad guy he is litteraly a hero you can't say otherwise unless you didn't do the quest or you just hate capitano
@@SmithyPL i wont say he is bad. yeah thats why i respect him out of all the harbingers we know. first of all he is just a warrior in khaneriah and he and all the people of nations suffered because of something done by group of people if you think like then his anger is totally right. why should he suffer when he had not idea about bad guys. and again in natlan he wasnt again mavuika anyway its just he saw the destruction of a nation because of abyss. he doesnt want another nation to suffer. mavuika plan really was questionable like what if heroes dont awaken in time but mavuika is also not in wrong too she believes that all souls shouldnt suffer and that plan is also not fool proof. you talk about bad guys humans are never always kind we are always morally gray characters. we tend to selfish and can some time hurt others but something can morally be wrong but could be right thing to do at that time. capitano knew he and all the souls deserve a chance and ronova is wrong to curse whole nation for few people atleast thats what we know for now. again i dont think he will return he merged himself with lord of night which made her immortal. i respect his ideals and how took stand for justice he believed in and he also suffered for lot of time. he got his best ending he always wished for let him be.
@@hyomie2254 Literally you have Dottore who killed and experimented on numerous people and mass-murderer Arlecchino, Capitano is just bad for working with them together. He worked together with a Genshin equivalent of Dr Mengele ...
@@JPS13Laptopscara erased himself from irminsul, so techinically teyvat no longer knows him as the balladeer. through the interlude sumeru archon quest, traveler helped him regain his old memory while still allowing him to live his new life in sumeru as "hat guy" what i'm guessing is that capitano is probably going to get his "rebirth" moment in some ways like how scara did
@@johnnypham6095 I mean I see what you mean, but I think what’s more likely is that eventually the curse of immortality will be removed so he can actually die properly. Either way whatever happens with Capitano, it’ll probably be close to when the Teyvat story is close to finished.
Isn't like his entire being immortal? He says that he is cursed with absolute live. The curse as punishment would be missing the point if your soul dies and only your body lifes on. It would be just a shell, but no emotions and feelings, no person would be left.
I doubt they'll let such opportunity of literally ocean of money pass and just "throw him in there". Without explanation or reason as to how or why. Just like Noelle. We don't know much about her either, except that she wants to become a knight...
I just think this was a waste of a No1 Harbinger..like yeah, he got way better send-off than Signora ever did but remember how much Scara was built up as a character even Signora (the lore was in artifacts and other places). I feel like we know nothing about him and he is just dead..
@ signora was already characterised in crimson witch flame set tho, we knew her story plus pale flame set as well (idk what piece has her story) and i am pretty sure some books as well or notes i forgot..
I'd expect all the Harbingers (dead ones included) to get a fair bit more lore once we get to Sneznaya same for all Khaenri'ans (ones that are somehow dead included) when we finally get to Khaenri'ah, meaning that Capitano has 2 big chances.
The thing I didn't understand was why Ronova was fine with Captain replacing Mavuika's part after she borrowed Ronova's power, even though the plot often emphasized that it was a rule that must be followed by all means that if you borrow Ronova's power, you must pay with your death? In a very crude comparison, it's as if Mavuika borrowed money from Ronova and the Captain decided to pay for Mavuika and Ronova was like "eh, whatevs". Ronova had even more reason to refuse since the Captain was blatantly challenging Ronova's rule and talking about revenge in it's face.
I can't remember exactly which quest it was but I believe there was a discussion about how using Ronova's powers requires death but not necessarily the user's, just that a life of equal value must be claimed. I could be confusing things around so I'm currently trying to find when that happened. I'll edit once I do.
Here’s my theory: he will be back in some way. Now him being playable is very iffy (and i would think far into the future) but i definitely don’t think this is the last we see of his. Two reasons: 1) he is a harbinger who is still physically existing in teyvat and retains all his memories. 2) he is connected to khaenri’ah. For reason 1, i believe the tsaritsa would not just simply let her number 1 fatui go just like that, especially since they r still yet to obtain the pyro gnosis. I think this could be a very interesting set-up for snezhnaya’s archon quest, where the tsaritsa may try to find a way to break capitano out of his standstill with death while (pulling a thanos) getting trying to get pyro gnosis herself. Perhaps haborym would also appear in some way shape or form in the story if this were the case. For reason 2, i think it’s pretty obvious that there are still a ton of mystery surrounding khaenri’ah, regarding its rules and how the story quest could possibly play out in a nation with no one left inhabiting it. I think there is a very real possibility that the next dainslief quest is somehow connected to capitano’s standstill with death (with could either play along with or go against reason 1), given how we now have at least 3 confirmed khaenri’ans existing in teyvat those being dainslief, capitano and kaeya. I wouldn’t be surprised if the three are connected in the future. Not to mention there is also pierro (number 0 of the fatui) who we r still yet to learn abt but is also likely from khaenri-ah. And if the tsaritsa doesn’t find a way to break capitano’s standstill with death i think the next person who’s most likely to do it will be pierro. Overall, these points r complete speculation and cope that capitano will reappear in the future, but i think they’re valid and definitely could happen.
We can see the captain sitting in the throne on the map after u complete the archon quest It's like the tree in sumeru and inazuma We can offer something I don't know what that is😅
@@VishnuSaravan you can offer the flint ores obtained by each tribe's reputation there for traveler constellations (they get additions to their constellations after you do the archon quest, so each constellation has two different effects.) right now you can only get up to c5 I think since collective of plenty is not released yet
In the simulanka quest durin was reborn so there is a huge chance that this body wont be capitano’s which is in fact gonna be thrain’s instead. and I feel like there are so many questions yet to be answered especially what the vid has showed.
This! I need someone to do a deep dive in the Simulanka story in light of the current events. I believe Capitano will be the Hero of the land in the game, who will fulfil the role of Scaramouche from Simulanka with the Traveller as the witness and Durin as the dragon. I can also imagine Simulanka's story foreshadowing Capitano's journey of reconstructing the Night Kingdom
Hi Mr CatWithblueHat, I'm a just a random mavuika main, but after completing the AQ and mavuika story quest, I can safely affirm there is something fishy in the quest. Not just CAPITANO, but the entirety of natlan archon quest, especially mavuika I have somthing to say about natlan, now that I have finished the quest, and Mavuika story quest and I doubt I'm the only one who noticed it. Anyone else feels like lots of thing are missing? Pyro gnosis fate, which harbinger is coming next, what about the outcome of the pyro gemstone, capitano fake death, the fact that in Mav SQ she knew already the questions we were asking ourselves but never explained why, etc...? My theory is pretty simple, and I think it will be explained more in the future quests: I feel like everything that happened in natlan managed to somehow happens IN THE PAST. In fact, in the ignition teaser, cap and mavuika already know about each other, right before their encounter in 5.0 which is just impossible. The new tournament which begin is now a competition where "the winner will take all" which is not a "humanity survival battle" anymore, meaning it's the new tournamenr that take place now that the abyss is gone so it wasnt the 5.0 tournament but the 5.3 tournament . Even more, mavuika states herself at the end of the AQ the lines of the pyro gemstone: "We embark on a pilgrimage for the wishes of the people...." yet she didnt even finish the whole sentence with "if his true heart can be found in ashes, then...", same goes for the reason we have yet to discover about mavuika, even more in her SQ where she somehow knew what we were thinking all along with the traveler asking himself how this can be possible, and her not elaborating, as well as the other fatui joining natlan and the tsaritsa keeping capitano rank and place, mavuika closing someone eyes in the ignition teaser, stating that "what our eyes see ought to be our fate, but close your eyes and feel" and immediately after that she says a line that she said in the archon quest "we will use our blood to forge our own future", meaning there is a possibility of mavuika having somehow restarted everything after "the person to whom she is talking" closed his eyes etc... Something fishy is going on with the captain and mavuika, to the point where I genuinely feel like they both purposefuly used the traveler as a tool, IN THE PAST, to achieve a drastic change to a destiny they already knew or experienced, and that we arent even aware of it. Anyone think that way too?
That's actually a good point And with how Mavuika keeps saying that "past, present and future all exist at once", I feel like she knows more than we think. We already know that time travel shenanigans exist in Genshin, I mean take Raiden Shogun's second story quest as an example. Ei is the one that planted the seed of the Sacred Sakura, and it happened right in front of us, yet we already saw it in the game. So we witnessed how it was planted, but it's as if it always existed. There's also a huge theory of Traveler having already experienced everything but we're seeing a new timeline or something. Time manipulation is VERY important to the lore, so it's not that big of a stretch
"A Man on a Throne" is a great story set in a fantasy world. Imagine a Mom or Dad telling the tale as a piece of history to their son or daughter something legendary and timeless about him. I’d love for Capitano to be a playable character, but it would feel so much more iconic if he stayed on the throne.
There has been speculation he could be the nails that resemble a cross on the fatui wheele. He has been sacrficed but he could be resurrected. A very similar situation to Jesus guiding the lost souls to heaven. The captain did so similliar to by guiding the souls to the night kingdom. He’s technically the genshin Jesus.
I feel like the Loom of Fate could also be involved with his return. Perhaps the Prince/Princess could see it as a way to acquire a strong khaenri'ahn ally, if they can make him owe them? Either way, it seems like a way to rush the Ley Line's repair fully, being a tool that can completely create brand new ones.
From the start my hunch was right, because Genshin usually releases normal human characters, so like the big b__bs, signora was killed, the Capitano the black mask was died, My theory is that there are only 3 living harbingers left: Sandrone, Columbina, and Pantalone. Pulcinella ( old man ), Pierro ( beard ) and Dottore ( Mask ) maybe unplayable Requirements for playable digenshin: normal body and visible eyes
Im actually surprised that they made a reference of Captino as the Lich King, sitting on a frozen throne with his sword on his right hand. He still has his immortality and became one with the lay lines so there's a possible chance we might see him again. He's sititng on his throne probably asleep since he hasn't been sleeping for 500 years like Dain and when another catastrophy or war with Celestia or another Abyss invasion he will wake up from his long slumber ans join the figt one more time.
All souls eventually return from the night kingdom, I would assume whenever they’re ready, given capitano’s immortal body is still there(and they teased his name so we definitely aren’t done with him) he will probably reincarnate back into that body where most people come back as someone’s kid since their body will have decayed to nothing
Morally, please let the man rest. I do want to see more of his story and id be happy to see that in additional content like animation videos and filler events eg. if we meet him in a dream space like with Caribert, etc, or get to travel to Khanri'ah in the past and meet up with him pre-immortality, etc. But for now... let him rest. We got to have a canonical nap for 500 years before the game's events, now it's his turn.
Exactly. He will definitely take the longest nap he's ever had. It's totally possible that he will never want to move again in his physical form. However, I do believe it's possible we will get to talk to him or communicate with him again somehow Remember the dream the Traveler had? I don't remember who, but either Ororon or Mavuika proposed that we saw Capitano's future, where he was guiding the souls in the Night Kingdom. He wasn't golden or transparent like every other soul, he had the exact same model as his physical body. As of now, we know that he's doing exactly that: restoring the ley lines and guiding the souls he kept within his body. I believe there's still more to it
As much as I really want Capitano playable, it feels wrong making him alive and playable, when he had faced a 500 year long torture. So I think this may have been better fate for him, despite the playerbases(including me) dissapointment.
@RaikaKoshiba650 oh god, I completely forgot about Dain- He also deserves rest, but Hoyo already seem ready to make him playable... Maybe he'll get a good reason to keep living?
Do you think if capitano's design is copied, like say an imposter of cloned by dottore let say, with similar powers, you would still pull for him? I think the reason he is popular is largely his design and a another part is his character
I'm convinced no one reads the story...signora situation is totally different she was burned to ashes without anything being alive...while if u guys read the dialogue properly, ronova said she cant reverse the immortality which means he can't die at all..like bro's been breathing and twerking on the throne ever since that quest...if u guys read the dialogue it tells he's guiding the countless soul in to night kingdom, his wish is not wanting to die, its to guide the souls...u think thats his whole plan and thats what he lives for? no... If its just to guide the souls he doesn't hv to join the fatuis at all, he can just work it out with the pyro archons all these years but nope bro has another plan, u think he became the master of ley lines for nothing... all those related to ley lines like dottore burning irminsul, loom of fate etc are all from future plots, so as a master of ley lines he's definitely needed in the upcoming contents.. And if u read those dialogues from monstadt fatuis they said tsaritsa is keeping his position, while signora position became vacant after she died, so it was their plan all along, to give capitano their first harbinger a power up as master of ley lines
Fair point. But still, it isn't exactly proof that he will move from his throne, as one question still remains: would he want to come back as a living being? Because right now I presume you could say that he's in a state of limbo. Being immortal and having suffered for so long, nobody would want to come back to "life", not so soon at least. It will definitely be a long time before we see him again, if we ever see him at all Ororon asked: "Does that mean The Captain will never move from this place?", and in the same scene Mavuika said "His long journey has finally come to a close. I suppose this is a happy ending for him". Not saying this proves anything of course, but pretty much everyone agreed that this is his "ending" and that he will now be resting in peace. He isn't dead, but will he ever leave the throne? Will he ever want to move again? That's the question. If we do meet him, I feel like it would be in some kind of spiritual form rather than his physical body
@DeadVoxel i did not say he would move from that place tho....his soul is still alive as well his body just like u said he's just in limbo state... remember how guthred appeared and that version was actually how the story woven scrolls portraits him.. possibly from his past and ororon said he's gonna weave a scroll about capitano...i think we'll get something similar to wanderer redesign where thrain will be playable instead of the on at the throne
I'm yearning for the moment the stone-cold figure arises from his throne in Ochkanatlan, with his mask gone and a heartbeat being heard again. Please hoyo you've already done signora mains dirty, let us have our harbinger of GOAT back.
it honestly might just come down to the same issue that Signora had. design not intended for playability. both Capitano and Signora share the trait that their designs are clearly intended to be viewed from the front rather than the back, from behind he doesn't have a distinct silhouette since his coat basically just makes him one big block. also, no visible Vision/Delusion on his model. so far the only playable characters without a Vision (real or otherwise) on their model are Raiden Shogun, Nahida, Neuvillette, and Mavuika (so 3 Archons and a Dragon Sovereign). even when swapping to their Delusion (or even entering Foul Legacy in Childe's case) Tartaglia and Arlecchino both keep their Delusion very visibly on their model, something that Capitano and Signora didn't do for their Cryo Delusions. for this same reason I'd also expect Dottore to not be playable. then again, Scaramouche never had his Delusion on his model (in fact we don't even know what element he had (I'd bet on Electro though) or even what happened to it. did he lose/discard it at some point? might Wanderer still have it? it feels important enough that it should've been addressed) and he became playable, but he had a major design change and earned a Vision in between being a Harbinger and becoming playable. also in terms of design even his original design followed all the typical rules for a playable character (long flowey thing that doesn't block view of the body (helped in his case by the fact that it was transparent), silhouette of body clearly visible), something I can't say for the designs of Capitano or Signora, who's silhouettes just look like indistinct blocks from behind (on this front even Dottore does better, I could actually believe his overall design concept could get made into a playable character if he just went through a small redesign like Wanderer did to add a Vision/Delusion to it). honestly, when it comes to playability in Hoyoverse games the design thing is a much bigger obstacle than death.
*THIS COMMENT CONTAINS SPOILERS* Honestly with how the natlan character sales other than mavuika aren’t nearly as good as Fontaine characters, they’ll probably make him an exception, similar to how they made the Raiden shogun playable when she wasn’t intended to be playable. That’s one of the only two reasons I can see capitano being dead. Another is that he’s not physically dead, despite his losing soul or whatever.
@ that’s the thing. Raiden has long lost her physical form. She’s nothing both a consciousness and soul transferred into a puppet now. The same situation with Furina, but Furina ain’t possessed with focalors’s used a as a vessel for soul or whatever.
He just got put into a cryostasis for a while, he'll definitely come back especially when we'll inevitably deal with the Sinners. Ain't no way Dain can handle those guys alone, Rhinedottir/Gold singlehandedly f*ked over Teyvat with her creations, he'll need some assistance from the Khaenriahn if he was to get revenge. Plus, Capitani will definitely be out for blood considering that he's brave enough to mess with the literal God of Death herself.
… and what if this only a part of Tsaritsa’s plan this is why she left the Captain’s position as it is? Now that Capitano’s merged with the ley lines, maybe it is part of their plan in future archon quest? With Nod Krai releasing, what if Sandrone or Dottore’s gonna make a new body for the Captain? I may be delusional but I’m still hoping for him to be playable
If he does become playable, it won't be during the natlan update, it's either during the nord-kari which is at the end of this year or nxt year during the snezhnaya arc, which can be a high possibility, because by time then the cryo archon would have obtained all the gnosis. Capitano mains we just have to wait and see 😊
do you have any idea about the relation between pyro traveler constellation system and capitano? in order to activate pyro mc cons we need to offer blazing flit ore to capitano, is this maybe a hint for capitano to gain his consciousness again?
My take abt capitano: I feel like his story is good, his goals is good but mhy really could handle hist story direction better. A lot of ppl actually said how boring capitano is bcs they feels like "he's just a guy" standing there. The thing is before signora dead she's already had her lore scattered through teyvat world towards artifact etc. but not with capitano that's why I feel like he still have potential or maybe mhy just gonna waste it. Now we don't know yet if they ever gonna released a book or artifact that tells more abt him in future patch, but one thing also makes me overthinking: Yk whenever there's a certain character/npc died they always give us this special item that reminds us of the characters/npcs? Ex: signora's mask, Tadhla's feather accessories/decoration, etc that's why maybe he got the potential. And yk maybe it'll get the contuation by how nod krai is dottore base and how another fatui possibly will come for the gnosis just like mavuika said.
I think that for a confirmation we need to wait till we know which harbinger are we fighting next If It´s Columbina I think he is definitely coming back cause we are following the order
Natlas is great Lore and Animation wise. But the Story was not really entertaining. No Climax, Plottwist or Shock moment. You had always random NPCs or playable character around you, which was kinda annoying. Same goes for Capitano, besides the first fight with Mavuika. He has great Lore but it was kinda boring. Natlan was still enjoyable but worse than the other Nations. Natlan is not over yet and I hope its get better.
So It got me curious. Didnt LOTN said that he is the new leyline and will heal natlan’s leyline? What if that his original body would be restored removing the curse of kaenriah through the leyline
Removing the curse? You mean the immortality? Because immortality itself cannot be removed, that should only be within Ronova's powers, she specifically said that the curse must remain. As for the rot, perhaps... but it's up to lore if that's even possible to begin with
well, with the current characters and the revealed livestream ones there's 16 in total. since inazuma there was always 17 characters per patch cycle. we're missing 1
It's pretty ambiguous and the video makes some guesses. However generally in stories when a character is written out by an act of self sacrifice (which despite it being irrational because Capitano benefitted from his "death", is how this story was written) then you know that character isn't coming back as that would cheapen the sense of self-sacrifice. For example if Capitano shows up the next day walking around and fine are they still going to have him featured heavily on the big statue commemorating the fallen? Plus there's a game mechanic reason he can't come back. We need him to get the Pyro Traveler's constellations.
I think it depends on how the “sacrifice” actually works bc I dont fully understand about it. If all it is was his soul merging with Yohualtecuhtin, but still distinct, there might be possibility that he can separate again after She is done fixing the ley line. But I think it was more of him giving away his “life force” to Her since that’s what mavuika mention, and since his “life force” is literally unlimited that’s how Yohualtecuhtin now have “eternal life”
That's exactly what I'm wondering as well. It seems his soul is still out there, but his body remains unmoving, yet still alive. Yet he still gave away his life force... But he can't die? But what happens if he comes back to his body? Can he still provide his life force to the Lord of the Night from afar if he were to get up from his throne? Or would the Lord of the Night no longer receive his life force? Or did he give it to her completely? But his body still can't die, so even if he DID give his immortality to her, he still can't die according to Ronova's rules. I'm so confused If they ever make him playable, I wonder how they're going to pull this off, because right now it just doesn't make any sense
I never really thought about Capitano's stories and legends manifesting like Gunther. If that's the case then there's a possibility that he could be playable. He won't be the same Capitano we know but he's mostly like gonna be called Thrain.
That's the only plausible option I can imagine. The rest just doesn't really make much sense. Though this makes me wonder: will he come back to his body if he manifests as a story? Or will he need a new one for that? And how is he going to have a physical form in case he manifests like Guthred, knowing that Guthred only manifested as a "soul" in the Night Kingdom and not with a physical body? There are so many questions
Other possiblity is time travel. As his face is like zombie or decayed that no way Hoyoverse will let him playable like that. Maybe we get playable as younger version of him when we get to Khaenri'ah nation (which is highly possible that we will travel back in time)
Imo the biggest reason as to why I hate the Natlan AQ: the execution of things done the worst in all of the AQs we have. It also seems like a lot of Natlan AQ was retconned for whatever reason. And imo it clearly shows how rushed it was with Captiano and Mavuika. Like I was expecting we’d get more screen time with Capitano. His “death” makes some degree of sense, but I can’t fully see a direct way the writers can make him come back into the plot. Also, imo, his mask is the strongest part of his design, if he was unmasked to be playable, I wouldn’t consider pulling. Personally though, the question I don’t get is why people say capitano’s characterization in the quest was “peak.” It literally wasn’t. We have playable harbingers who show that his story felt rushed as hell. It would be cool to see him come back, but if he did, I’d hope he’d be back in 7.0 or 8.0 (since it seems like 6.0 is Nod Krai.)
Retconned how? This is a genuine question, I'm curious to see your reasoning And I certainly do agree that we didn't get enough screen time with Capitano,. We still don't know that much about him, and it kind of felt like he just appeared, said a few words here and there, and just "died". I feel like people say his characterization is peak mostly because people already liked Capitano, and because he's a good and noble person. Lack of screen time aside, I'd say the concept behind his character was indeed peak. There just wasn't enough time for it to be fleshed out properly I also agree that without his mask he wouldn't be so... interesting? In terms of design. It's not like they could unmask him either way. The immortality curse wasn't lifted, and his rot would still remain. It's impossible, and it's not "attractive" according to the playable character standards Though with all of that being said, I saw people bring up a good point: We still have a lot of questions unanswered, such as what's going to happen to the pyro gnosis? And all of that. It honestly even feels like at the end of the quest Mavuika didn't really answer any of our questions at all. The story of Natlan feels weirdly unfinished. Either they're going to build more upon it, or that's just how they're going to leave it until someone goes to fetch the pyro gnosis for Tsaritsa
The curse will keep him forever undying, despite his best efforts. He pulled off a paradox, against the gods' wishes. We'll probably see him again if we need more info on Khaenri'ah.
He had such an amazing ending to his arc, the only way I can imagine him coming back is when WE rewrite the rules of the world again at the end of the story, when we challenge the Heavenly Principles and he's no longer bound by his curse of immortality.
The particular reason I believe him to be playable at some point is due to his model; Hoyo specifically modified a tall male model for Capitano so he is taller than most npcs; why not use the buff-man that Wagner or Cyrus have, or base him off some of the beefier enemies like Electrohammer if the point is to make Cappy look large and intimidating, you can't really do much better in Genshin in that regard. So why the playable tall male as the base? If they wanted him to glow white under Elemental Sight, any npc model would do. Besides that, some dataminer found out that his sword file ids are the exact same as some elemental skills such as Guoba; apparently there are very few things in the game that share this trait and are not related to playable characters. While admittedly it could be related to the fact he holds it in his stasis, I think it rolls back to the question of his model. Sure, maybe it's just easier for the devs to do stuff with his sword that way (the way he points it at Ronova is almost certainly a new out-of-cutscene thing), but let me cope in peace. Lastly, and this is going to be an obscene amount of copium mixed with tinfoil hat nonsense on my part, the reason he is sitting here like it's 2007 and the trailer for Wrath of the Lich King just dropped is because hoyo wants Capitano's trailer to start the exact same way: dramatic musical buildup, camera slowly zooming in on the throne, and the eerie blue eyes start to glow (because swear to whatever god is up there, if he ends up playable and they waste that reference after all the Lich King coding they gave him...)
I've saw a theory on my community last night, they talked about blue butterfly on his cutscene, they searced and said that blue butterfly could represent rebirth. Maybe its some clue?
At any point Capitano can be taken away from Natlan’s leylines.But,Now that he has control of them,He can have them connect to the rest of the leylines and send more Khaenriahn souls to the Night Kingdom before they are reborn in the ode of resurrection. Not to mention that Mavuika said that Dottore is now in Nod Krai and we will have a target on our backs as soon as we reach Snezhnaya.If Capitano decides to leave the night kingdom and be away from the ode of resurrection which will have revived a lot of people by then,He can lead us into Snezhnaya and the Tsaritsa can finally tell us her full plan.Dottore won’t hurt us if the first harbinger himself takes us to Snezhnaya.Pierro is also Khaenriahn and Capitano can tell us more about him because we don’t know that much on his history.
I mean to think about it it’s stupid that hoyo made a character with such a cool design and give him the position of a fatui harbinger and not any fatui harbinger he’s probably the strongest one and just kill him like that without making him playable or even make him a weekly boss so I think there’s a high chance of his returning but it will probably happen in next region in a critical event maybe in the fight against the tsaritsa
:) if u guys want captain to be playable then. Complete the whole reputation quest of natlan and get 6 cons for traveler. 😶 Otherwise the story won't progress 100% (or the captain might never be playable.)
Number one rule in Genshin whether a character becomes playable "If a character has been mentioned or has a voiceline about that said character from other characters, then certainly it will become playable. -There are 3 Characters that has a voiceline about "The Captain" -Wanderer, Childe and Mavuika also the Pyro Gemstone's flavor text hasn't changed and the Redacted name is still there and hasn't revealed yet.. so the Destine victory hasn't happen yet
What if the Fatui bring him back in the 6.0 updates… I feel like Dottore will be ordered to awaken him or something. It just makes no sense to kill off a character such as Capitano. I’ve been disappointed and thinking about this nonstop cuz I really wanted Capitano to be playable. The only character I’m looking forward to now that we know of is Skirk. I just hope they do some bs and bring him back plus make him playable.
I find it very interesting how he was still breathing on the throne despite seeming to be a lifeless corpse. It’s very subtle, but during the attack on Natlan om the surface, many of the dead were clearly not breathing, so maybe this is still something to cling onto (might be delusional idk lmao)
We know that he didn't technically die, as he's immortal, and Ronova absolutely REFUSED to lift up the curse. So his body is STILL alive, and his soul must be wandering in the Night Kingdom or something. But does that mean he's going to eventually come back to his body? That's the question
Capitano is in "suspended animation" meaning he could return but for the moment he will not. Until the end when we fight against the sinners, I can get behind him being playable and coming back to help us
The thing is that Hoyo doesnt really need to make him left the Throne to make him playable,just with a quest of his past or maybe where we talk with him someway and use him they can give the charaito us without revive him in lore
It's either we can be able to mess with the Heavenly Principle or Death herself that he can be playable. My guess is after Snezhnaya when we finally have access to Khaenri'ah
As much as i would like him to be a playable character, i really hope he doesnt become one. His arc was satisfying, probably the most satistying thing of 5.3, which i thought was kinda lackluster. Im more curious to know who will they be sending next to collect the Pyro Gnosis. My guess would be Columbina, given that her symbol is the next in the Harbinger wheel.
(The following points are just my musings for discussion, and are not intended as complete fact) They way I see it, there are 2 strikes against Capitano coming back. If they can be resolved, then there would be a stronger possibility for him to come back. 1. Whether he wants to come back. First thing, let's face it, the dude's tired. He hates having immortality and hasn't been able to sleep for 500 years. Man's trying to retire and take a long nap. Also, he may not want his body due to it being completely rotted. Granted, he'd actually be able to sleep if he came back, and maybe he's able to tolerate his zombified state. His arc was all leading up to his sacrifice, and he got what he wanted. He's need a really good reason to come back. He could come back to get revenge on the Shades, but narratively speaking it would be kinda redundant to do the whole "ultimate challenge against the Ruler of Death" thing again. I've seen people mention he might want revenge against the 5 Sinners or has unknown backstory about his Fatui times. I think these work better than facing Ronova again. Perhaps Dain can convince him or the Tsaritsa has plans for him given her keeping him registered as #1. Not sure if these reasons would be good enough, but they have some potential. 2. If the Lord of the Night would agree to give him his body back. Even if Capitank could have a reason to come back, it could undermine the entire point of his sacrifice to Natlan. His body is Natlan's one way ticket to No-Abyss town, due the curse loophole being applied to the Lord of the Night. The Night Kingdom is kept alive indefinitely against the Abyss soley due to the immortality loophole. Depending on how exactly the merging and loophole works, him leaving Naltan would make the Night Kingdom vulnerable again. Protecting Natlan is the Lord of the Night's priority, and they are dependent on the body to keep the anti-Abyss barrier running. The curse may keep the body from aging, but Khaenri'ans can still be slain. Even if Capitano can possess the body again or even leave Natlan, there's still the risk of the body being destroyed. There are 2 solutions to this: First, Capitano only comes back for a limited time for a very serious threat to Natlan or Teyvat, or Capitano gets a new body to possess. Technically, there are plenty of other characters besides Capitano with the strength to defend Teyvat, so it may not be necessary to bring him back to defend the land. However, even if not necessary, he still might help. Kinda iffy on this one. As for the new body, it's theoretically possible. (Mavuika Story Quest Spoilers ahead) We saw Xbalanque come back briefly to possess some kid's body, so Capitano's soul could possess another body. Having him possess a living person's body is morally questionable, but we've seen artifical bodies be created before, so theoretically someone could construct a puppet for him to inhabit or something. This does have the risk of coming across as contrived, depending on how they write it. Also, since he's technically merged, he may not be able to independently possess another body. He and the Lord of the Night have separate consciousnesses, however, so maybe he can. Alternatively, Catwithbluehat's suggestion on a story version of him coming back is possible, but again, could become contrived if handled wrong. This has been my thoughts, keep in mind these are just musings/opinions. I am not intending to argue with anyone.
You wrote down every point I made in my other comments as well. This is exactly what bothers me about him becoming playable. All of these contradict the very idea of him even MOVING from the throne as a whole Though, I haven't thought of an artificial body or a puppet before, so... keep cooking. That also sounds pretty plausible
I do wonder though, if i'm not mistaken, the Wayob are formed by an entire tribe's stories and whatnot turning into a gestalt consciousness within the Night Kingdom, right? If all of the souls inside of Capitano finally got shunted into the Night Kingdom, would it be possible that all of the stories and memories people have of him ends up turning Capitano himself _into a Wayob?_
I feel like hoyo knows that we want capitano,so they gave him a "fake"(if you get what i mean) death to put us off and then when we least expect it (probs also when we have less primos) they gonna drop his banner
My only question for it is , is he obligated to stay on this throne for it all to take effect , i would assume since the deal has already been done he would be able to. He deserves his rest for sure at least he got what he wanted , i wish he was playable so much but in the end it shall come to his own decision to wether he chose to rest indefinitevely or rest a while until he pursues or come to help for something important... that is the options i saw too. But if that is truly a his permanent "death" in the game, then it will be his best one.
Capitano joined Fatui because of it will benefit him. Fatui is the largest and strongest army force after Khanriah fall. He needs resources to gather information to finding ways to save all of his fallen soldiers souls and gathering loyal comrades and intelligence.
Personally a previous pyro archon or someone of great power from natlan's history could possess him however since he became his own place on the map that has significance and a cutscene and all that I think he's stuck there. He is in fact a soulless carcass now and forever.
I know I'm the only one who thinks this but if they ever decide to make him playable, it'll be a disservice to him. This is what he wanted, so give him that. Don't bring him back just because of his die hard simps. Even if there is a logical reason, it just doesn't make sense to me. Besides no matter how much people adore the harbingers, I don't believe we need almost every single one to be playable!
I still think thrain as a sentinel knight is over but as capitano it's not over coz ronova is still alive as well as celestia, harbingers especially khaenriahns like pierro & capitano main goal is to defeat celestia
I mean scaramouche introduced back in 1.1 and he playable 2 years later in 3.3 so if capitano playable I think it will be at the endgame in snezhnaya chapter or khaenriah
Since Chaditano was the strongest human alive, and now that he has guided the souls inside him to the night kingdom then maybe if the traveller gets in an inescapable situation with the shades, he could reappear in the story and then maybe come as a playable character (but we all know he ain’t coming back😭)
I will like to put this here The natlan teaser takes place after the ARCHON QUEST Reasons 1: chasca references her dead sister 2: ororon is with Capitano 3: muavika isn't defensive or anything when she goes to Capitano 4: all six flames are lit which means all heros are awakened 5: the gemstone is still censored 6: capitano and ororon are in an unfamiliar area 7: the tournament is being seen as some sort of fun sport and now mention of heros night wars abyss is mentioned 8: muavika shared the secret with us in the teaser she still hasn't done that Capitano will be back with the same model
That's a valid point Now the question remains: How will they pull this off? Will they just, have his soul come back to his body? Or is there something else that happens that would be unexpected? So many questions and no answers whatsoever. I guess we'll see Still doesn't prove that he'll be playable there and then, but at least there IS a possibility of him coming back as an NPC
@DeadVoxel the how will be answered later on when we have narrowed the possibilities enough we have to wait at least for 5.4 because what if like durin he starts to breathe faster by each patch?
Thank you so much for such an interesting and enlightening video. Indeed the First of the Harbingers and the Strongest of the Fatui, the Hero of Humanity ascended to well deserved throne for his sacrifices and achieved his greatest goal and wish. As a fan of both Warhammer and Genshin Impact, Capitano's/Thrain's story makes me so excited and feels with both sadness and happiness that I even can't find my word. He's breathtaking 🥺😭🥰☺️🤗
Btw ppl capitano in AQ was always referred to as “the captain” , so all we know he could be just a part soul of his original self and other part maybe in an undercover mission…or else why would tsaritsa would keep his rank in the harbingers ? It was mentioned she had no love for her people and only single goal to pursue in the genshin lore trailer
So you're suggesting his soul split into two halves when he sat down on the throne? Because while he was still alive (or moving, I guess), Ororon said that Capitano's soul is perfectly in tact and complete, unlike his own
"Capitano will be playable!!!!", I say as they drag me into the asylum
Broooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah I'm happy to cope
Inside the asylum...
Capitanochad : JUST YOU WAIT, CAPITANO WILL BE PLAYED 6.X TRUST ME, GET ME OUT OF HERE
an eerie voice can be heard from the dark corners of the asylum
Eerie voice : AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Capitanochad : who... WHO ARE YOU?
Eerie voice : ME? YOU ARE ASKING ME WHO AM I?
The person steps up to the sunlight, radiating from the asylum windows. Revealing their face.
Lasignora sigma : I am you from three years ago.
I like this ending to his story, I don't mind if they just leave it at that (would still pull should they decide otherwise)
R/TwoSentenceHorror be like...
@@theaverageplayer1656 then the dog came in
Capitano : "i finally at peace"
Hoyo HQ :"Sir, our revenue has been on downhill from several patches"
Da Wei :"Dont worry.... I have a plan"
.....
Da Wei : "Wakey wakey little boi.... "
Capitano :"Dude... What the fuck? "
Insert that Punisher meme
Captiano kinda reminds of the lich king from world of Warcraft
...😭💀
**Samsung's Alarm Clock starts playing**
"ARISE."
After that specific scene with Ororon questioning if Capitano ever sleeps, I think bro is just taking a nap. He’s earned it after carrying countless souls for hundreds of years.
I bet he’ll “wake up” either during some later point in Natlan’s AQ, or when we eventually get to Schneznaya. As for how, I like the “story becomes soul” theory personally.
If there'd be Capitano Boss Fight there'd be Capitano playable. They can't disrespect him twice or I'm backshoting Da Wei.
@@fandango_boingl if Da Wei kills off Dottore…. Add another back shot.
@@Suited_Nat I came up with a way for Redeeming Dottore before, but now it seems unrealistic.
Like: "Oh this one is a Good one cuz he's the latest Clone and did nothing wrong" but I'm sure this is not how Hoyo would cook + this one is the Last remaining Dottore and he has to Burn the Irminsul SO for that he'd be done for.
So yeah another BACKSHOTS.
Imagine what would Happen if Columbina just turns into Seele or Dies instead of being playable? Oh THAT would make Hoyo delete Genshin.
@@fandango_boia Dottore clone is definitely the only way they could make him playable.
@@Suited_Nat I'm ok with Dottore dying. I want us the player to fight him. I hope he becomes a weekly boss so we can beat him up with Collei and Wanderer every week.
I feel like for the rank 1 harbinger, we barely knew him and he has so much potential in the story pertaining to Nod Krai and the Fatui-focused patches that will be coming this or next year. It would be a waste to permanently kill off one of the most anticipated and hyped characters of the Fatui when he could play a huge part in the bigger picture in Snezhnaya and Khaenri'ah. He also seems to scorn the 5 Sinners which amplifies the idea of him returning. He has a score to settle against the 5 Sinners for causing the suffering of him and the Khaenri'ahn people. Imagine the hype seeing OUR CAPTAIN and Dainsleif and potential future Khaenri'ahns we meet clashing against the 5 Sinners, it's literally CINEMA.
Additional theories and speculations:
Capitano absorbed the souls of his men because they had nowhere to go. His primary goal was to find a home for the souls and memories of his men, not to explicitly die because of plot convenience. The souls could not return to the ley lines as Natlan's ley lines were destroyed during the battle between the Heavenly Principles and sovereign dragons. They couldn't enter the Night Kingdom due to the conditions set by Xbalanque and Ronova's deal. Thus, he had to become the master of the ley lines to change the rules and repair the ley lines to allow the souls of his fallen men that he had been carrying for over 500 years to rest in the Night Kingdom. He could not rest due to the torment and voices of all the souls that had been residing in him. Now that he had released the souls into the Night Kingdom, he can finally have his first rest in 500 years. In the AQ, The Captain said: "But death... is the end I have been trying to reach all along. I have come this far to use my death to open the gates of the Ley Lines to my people." This suggests that he had always wanted to merge with the LotN to rewrite the rules and allow the souls he had been carrying with him to rest in the Night Kingdom. You could say he has achieved his main goal, but let's not forget that The Captain said there was someone he had a score to settle with. Perhaps it could be some other entity, Celestia as a whole, the Five Sinners, or it's just Ronova. Capitano claimed he wanted revenge and Ronova is still active and she still has her grasp on Teyvat. If I had that much hatred against the person that caused me and my family's suffering, I would not stop here by remaining dormant forever on the throne. There are still bigger fish to catch in the grand scheme of things. He had already achieved this goal, and making him stay dead would be a MASSIVE waste of character potential for the future of the story. Not to mention the STONKS Hoyo could generate, which makes me believe that Hoyo making him stay dormant for now and release him as a character of the new element teased in Nod Krai, which he could be using, and will generate so much money for Hoyo. I believe he will return, and the cutscene where he stands up from his throne will be epic. Imagine this: the 1st of the Fatui Harbingers, supposedly the pinnacle of human strength, having powers that rival that of a god, dying permanently in the 6th nation with fewer than 100 lines total. You're telling me all this hype for the ranked 1 Harbinger of this mysterious powerful group from Snezhnaya met his end in this way after being hyped since the Winter's Night Lazzo trailer release and Mika's lines about him since 3.5?
Hoyo has left his conclusion open-ended where people are able to come up with many theories on his resurrection due to how he resembles Jesus -- his 3 nails constellation, being righteous and all, bla bla bla. Now, go back to Act 5 of the Archon Quest. Remember how Guthred appeared to help us quell the abyssal enemies in the Night Kingdom? This Guthred was created from people's stories about his heroic deeds for Natlan. The story Guthred was noble and heroic, whilst the real Guthred, who was still inside Capitano's heart, is described as pragmatic and will sacrifice anything for the greater good. Hoyo could have just removed this part in the Archon quest, but they insisted on adding this part in. Why? This was intentional on their part to foreshadow the potential return of the Captain. Remember how at the end of the quest when the children were listening to the story of Mavuika, Traveler and Capitano saving Natlan? Now these stories will continue to spread far and wide over Natlan, which could create a story version of Capitano's soul who will possess The Captain's body and return to Teyvat. There was also a female NPC called Luta at Capitano's memorial where she stated her father told her the story where Thrain fought alongside with Natlan's warriors when she was little. Hoyo made his body on the throne breathe specifically to show that his body is still alive, while his soul is dwelling in the Night Kingdom due to his new role as Master of the Ley Lines. They could've just removed his breathing animation with just a few clicks of a button, but no. This was definitely intentional. The theory of his inevitable return can also be supported by how the Fatui agents in Mondstadt were saying that the Tsaritsa allowed Capitano to keep his 1st Harbinger spot despite him being supposedly 'dead'. This could be to honor his contributions for the Fatui out of respect, but I doubt it, because Crucabena, was replaced by Peruere who later became Arlecchino, as the 4th Harbinger (supposedly), and Signora's 8th spot is labelled as 'vacant'. The Mondstadt Fatui agents were not sad about the loss of their ranked 1 Harbinger even though he is considered the most respected Harbinger, which is also another clue for his return, while Signora's death "shocked many Fatui, who expressed surprise at her demise. Some of her subordinates in Inazuma remained to exact revenge on the Shogunate, while ones in other nations were recalled to Snezhnaya to await news on who their new commanding Harbinger would be. Meanwhile, some other branches in the Fatui saw Signora's vacancy as an opportunity to promote other Harbingers' agendas, such as with Efim Snezhevich's plan to build Arlecchino's prestige by sabotaging the peace talks between the Shogunate and the Watatsumi forces," as stated from La Signora's Genshin fandom page. Story Guthred theory here is inspired by u/Tech5565's post on r/Genshin_Lore subreddit.
There are people who find the entire 5.0 - 5.3 story plot unsatisfactory and underwhelming, but Capitano's return could change their perspective, and also retain and fix Genshin's quickly diminishing player base. Hoyo had already laid down all the foundation for OUR GLORIOUS KING'S RETURN, it's now just a matter of when.
In other words, MAINTAINING THE AGENDA IS MY TOP PRIORITY OUR GLORIOUS KING WILL RETURN
He's still rank 1, Tsaritsa retains his ranking (NPC Fatui talk about it in Mondstadt after 5.3 quest)
For the most part, you were explaining well. Then, you revealed yourself to be part of the HQ...
GOATHIMTANO SHALL RETURN
AGENDA IMPACT BABYYY
@@SmithyPL Yes, it could be out of respect for his contributions for the Fatui agenda or the inevitable return of our king but I choose to believe the latter
Also one of his main goals seemed to be laying the souls he had been carrying to rest in the Night Kingdom, which he has already achieved. Now the question is, will he continue being the master of the ley lines to repair it or will there be a plot device that will allow him to return to his body to continue his duties as our GLORIOUS KING???
For those eager for more clear answers, Capitano's files point toward him being playable:
Unlike the other NPCs during the Natlan war quest, his profile is categorized with other playable characters.
His sword is labeled the same way alhaitham's sword is, suggesting that it might be a skill mode
His model is labeled as a playable character model. Signora's model was NOT labeled this way; Scara's was.
MOREOVER, according to the harbinger wheel boss theory, starting from childe, the harbingers are getting released as bosses in order and its been this way with the last 4. According to the wheel, Columbina should be the next boss, which makes sense due to a lot of evidence suggesting that she'll be the next harbinger to come retrieve the pyro gnosis. After Columbina is Capitano, meaning that he'll likely be making a return.
according to all the evidence we have, there's a decent chance he WILL be playable.
Go collect your Delusion from Snezhnaya 🗣
It seems like the Tsaritsa is aware of his plans, which is why she has kept him in his position as the first Fatui Harbinger. The throne he sits on even faces the theorized location of Snezhnaya, with the mysterious Cryo cubes surrounding him. The Natlan story quest remains unfinished, and Mavuika hasn’t revealed the secrets Dainsleif hinted at in the Traveler trailer. There’s also the deleted names in the Pyro gemstone description, along with the strange fight against the dragon-like weekly boss in the Archon quest. So many questions are still left unanswered. Either the developers are preparing something for future patches, or they simply didn’t follow through with their plans.
Where did you see or where did the Tsaritsa say his position is still nr1?
@silmetheetaert1515
After completing the Archon quest, you can overhear two Fatui agents in Mondstadt near the teleport waypoint discussing that.
@HayoMeh fuck ik it was that, I just thought I missed a dialogue during the arch quest. Mb, thanks for confirming.
I mean, dude. Have the Fatuis not received Gnosis? So it's obvious that the quest hasn't ended yet, either there will be act 6, or they will make a continuation in the Dainsleif quest or they will make an Interlude quest and make it mandatory.
@iosis9324 I'm assuming ur responding to me. I just wanted to confirm where 1 sentence was said lmao. Ik it's not over, I just wanted to see if the sentence was dropped in a dialogue I've alr played
No need to come off like that
As much as I want him to be playable, I want him to be at ease, at least when he decide not to, he not only deserve this, he earned it himself, if he decide to comeback, he will be welcome in the arms of his soldiers, friends and allies as one of natlan's greatest heroes
Yeah, as much as I want to see him move, hearing his voice, and be a good friends with him, as long as he is happy and at ease that way I don't mind. He deserves it after all what he have been through. Tho I can't say that I'm not sad 🥺
It feels like when you root for the green flag sub male lead in romance manga/manhwa/ manhua. We know that he won't be the main male lead and ended up with the heroine. But you still root for him and wish for his happiness no matter what happens because he deserves it for all his sacrifices
this is the spirit of a REAL Capitano (and fatui) fan. Let the king rest, he deserves it.
If he wants to stand up once more, that's his choice and will
@@MGRisMidyeah I agree w this. If it happens it happens lol
i mean.. writers and devs decide if he "wants" to wake up to become playable. judging by how gnshin is turning into honkai impact, I am not trusting hoyo we will get any male harbingrs playable anymore..
True,, i want give him some peace. He's tired🥺
His body getting possessed by the soul of his tales is a nice theory, though I don't want to make high expectations and let my hopes up but I wish it is
If Capitano ever becomes playable, it will probably be at the climax of the archon quest where we finally confront the heavenly principles. Like when we finally fight the ruler of death or something, then he'll come to our aid.
Fr 100%
Yeah it always bothered me the fact that we don't know why he even joined the Fatui in the first place, because when you think about it he didn't have a reason to do. His goal is to save Natlan from the abyss and put the souls inside him in peace. If he stayed in Natlan he would still managed to fulfill his goal regadless. There's still many unsolved questions and mysteries about him.
My guess is that Pierro simply convinced him. Or maybe he and Capitano simply wanted to create soldiers as strong, advanced and skilled as Khaenri'ah's, and that's how Fatui came to be. But as we've seen, each Harbinger has their own way of leading their soldiers, and therefore it may seem that it's actually a bad organization in the eyes of others...
??? Huh it has already been known that Tsarisa honors their own motive. They all just have 1 common goal is the hate for Heavenly Principles and maybe the 5 Sinners
Joining the fatui is actually quite a good idea for strong peeps. You gain troops and support while at the same time, you can run your own motives and do your own things. Its quite a chill org except for well, super strong and powerful people in it that can cause a lot of conflict.
Fatui is just a group that you can join if you're strong enough. The Tsaritsa is respected by many of the Harbingers but most of them such as Arle has declared that she'll defect if she deems that her own organization will be in grave danger. Heck, most of the Fatui grunts will only take orders from their own Harbinger, Citlali's new quest have shown that. As a Harbinger, you just need to get the Gnosis and do her tasks, heck you don't even need that tbh, Capitano aka the 1st Harbinger asked the Tsaritsa to get someone else and she's alright with it. Really goofy organization unless you're unlucky enough to be with some evil ass Harbingers tbh.
@@chihaotran1568 Sure but that hatred towards the Sinners or Heaveny Principles weren't explored in Capitano character at all. His main goal was again to put souls inside him in peace and save Natlan which he could done even if he didn't join Fatui
Everyone saying he's getting a Wanderer treatment, but what if he will get a Furina treatment?
Instead of "reviving" or "reborn" , maybe he'll come back as a mortal human somehow someway with his immortality finally gone (so eventually he will die normally like he wish to) 🧐
Probably, HoYo doesn't like fully masked characters and being male they would need to unmask him to market him to the respective fan base and the only way to do that is for him to be cleansed of his decaying body.
@@Ali-cya yeah, plus they already have design for pre-Fatui Capitano (aka Thrain) so if he ever returning, I'm pretty sure he will be of different design than his current self
Immortal doesn't mean he's a God. And he gave is immortal soul to the Night Kingdom and regenerated it so everyone outside Natlan who will die now will join the NightKingdom instead of be lost forever.
I must confess that I mostly pull hot male chara because I am thirsty but only for Capitano, I don't care what he looks like. I'm falling because of his righteous heart. Golden and unblemished. But he is now resting right? After those long, long, sleepless night filled with screeching agony of countless memories of death
To be honest, the thought of hoyo handsome-washing him kinda pissed me. He is fine as he is! I can't say I'm not curious what he looks like in the past but just a photo is enough for me. Also if he is free from his erosion, he won't be in pain anymore right? I love him as he is now but if he is not in pain I will be happy for him 🤧👉👈
@@Ali-cya the thing is, the helmet is part of his allure. I would roll for him as he is with no changes. I think most capitano wanters are the same way. We can never see his face and be happy with that.
He hasn’t slept for hundred of years, he needs his rest. I could see him coming back when the time comes in the war of teyvat between celestia, fatui, abyss order, abyss and the seven nations. Because I feel like his duties will bring his soul back to finish certain businesses
When god of death tries to attack Natlan during the invasion (because i assume all 7 nations including abyss sibling agreed with tsaritsa plan, lord of the night awaken the captain in his prime form, fighting 1v1 against that bitch!
as I said on your Capitano Story video, he's similar to the Lich King from Warcraft, everything about absorbing souls, the icy throne, icy sword, his attire, and the pose also....
if Hoyo really took inspiration from the Lich King, then he could be "resurrected" in the future....
But Lich King is evil af tho, a fallen hero, I meant the Arthas one not the one after him
@@TheHellleader I know that Arthas is an evil mf, that's why I mentioned the similarities of their appearance only, and maybe a bit of their lore settings, such as the destruction of Lordaeron and Khaenriah although it's Arthas himself who destroyed Lordaeron....
I have a feeling that natlan story is not done yet. Yes the threat is no more, but there are still some unanswered plot.
1. Do they really want to end the stoey when we haven't even unlock iansan tribe?
2. The gnosis still with mavuika.
3. The pyro gemstone desc still censored.
4. Capitano paeadox still happening.
5. Ignition teaser ball game has yet to begin.
Ashikai actually made a very good theory about how the ball game happening AFTER the AQ, which make a lot of sense since:
1. Kachina and mualani trying to "promote" the game. They did this because it's a new tradition in Natlan and who could be better to promote it than Kachina the rising star of the pilgrimage.
2. With the crisis is over everyone can compete in the competition, they even invite citlali someone who seems to not care about the night warden war.
3. And you know who else got invited to the game? Capitano. Remember no outlander is allowed to participate in the pilgrimage that's literally the entire reason why we need lord of the night to make us an ancient name, and yet in the ignition teaser mavuika invite capitano someone who's not only an outlander but also someone without an ancient name. And listen to the way she invite him. She sound so friendly instead of being hostile because this is not their first encounter, they are a rival now and probably want to settle the score.
4. That invitation scene alone might be the biggest proof that he will return at some point in the future.
All of this might happene on mavuika second story quest or maybe they'll make another interlude.
Wait, I actually never thought about the ball game being after the quest. There's also a scene in the aq where mavuika recite the quotes of the pyro gemstone but she stopped before saying the final line. That censored part is definitely going to be reveal in future story. Regarding Capitano though, I am sure he'll be back cause not only that his pose is the exact replica to the lich king from warcraft but i have a feeling when he return we will finally see his glowing blue eyes shining from the throne
Well, Hoyo has pulled off some insane stunts before. They were able to hide Natlan very well until release.
Don't forget the weird flame thing we saw on that teaser (the one Mavuika spoke with at the very end). We still don't know who/what it was or what was its purpose/story.
@@a.e.7081if I ain't wrong, thosr were six balls of fire right? If it is then it might be some sort of representation to the tribes
Then how about...sumeru? Dottore burning down the irmunsuls
The fact that they have him interactable tells me, personally, he could possibly come back because there is really no reason for us to offer flint to him. that could have occurred at several other locations concerning the night kingdom. Also, they could have had his body completely disappear as well to solidify he aint coming back. Hoyo keeping him around for something and the night kingdom will have not use for him when we become the loom of fate.
Well, I think he doesn't wanna move though, I wouldn't want to move after 500 years of suffering like that
@@txuan4043 This is where I think him being the first fatui harbinger could come at play. We don't know what he wants, but maybe being so responsible and still the first fatui harbinger, he might come back for his loyalty towards the Tsaritsa? Tho then the question becomes whether or not he needs to come back or if he needs to stay in the night kingdom and have authority over Natlan's leylines as a fatui too.
@Meh-yb9sw He literally achieved his goal in the archon quest though?
@@mrbnhafanatic3454 I'm not talking abt his personal goal, I'm talking abt his duty as the first fatui harbinger and "what he wants" there was to mean whether he wants to come back or not, like if he wants to wake up or not, to which I think him being the first fatui harbinger could come at play cuz we basically don't know what the fatui needs and wants (like...their detailed plan and what role Capitano needs to play for that).
YOU CAN INTERACT WITH HIM???? FUCK I MISSED THAT
I think so. Hi3 has a sub story called the captain-verse where he tries to find himeko, whom he believes to be alive in the quantum sea.
In every encounter, the captain would see a new himeko and try to get a happy ending for the world's tragedy. It usually ends with him killing himself until his allies try to resurrect him
Even though Capitano was "sacrificed" but with him possessing great lore + a personality like a respectable *captain*, perhaps his return one day is possible..
He's still rank 1, Tsaritsa retains his ranking (NPC Fatui talk about it in Mondstadt after 5.3 quest).
Not a fan of him because Genshin community choses bad guys as their faves while all Fatui should be long dead for their crimes, but he will return for sure, he is a master of leylines now as fused being with Lord of the Night, they will make him to take new physical form somehow, maybe even as an "Angel".
@@SmithyPL but in genshin we still don't really know who the bad guy or the good one yet. Can be the heavenly principle, can only be the 5 sinners. Who knows
@@SmithyPL But Capitano or Thrain isn't a bad guy he is litteraly a hero you can't say otherwise unless you didn't do the quest or you just hate capitano
@@SmithyPL i wont say he is bad. yeah thats why i respect him out of all the harbingers we know. first of all he is just a warrior in khaneriah and he and all the people of nations suffered because of something done by group of people if you think like then his anger is totally right. why should he suffer when he had not idea about bad guys. and again in natlan he wasnt again mavuika anyway its just he saw the destruction of a nation because of abyss. he doesnt want another nation to suffer. mavuika plan really was questionable like what if heroes dont awaken in time but mavuika is also not in wrong too she believes that all souls shouldnt suffer and that plan is also not fool proof. you talk about bad guys humans are never always kind we are always morally gray characters. we tend to selfish and can some time hurt others but something can morally be wrong but could be right thing to do at that time. capitano knew he and all the souls deserve a chance and ronova is wrong to curse whole nation for few people atleast thats what we know for now. again i dont think he will return he merged himself with lord of night which made her immortal. i respect his ideals and how took stand for justice he believed in and he also suffered for lot of time. he got his best ending he always wished for let him be.
@@hyomie2254 Literally you have Dottore who killed and experimented on numerous people and mass-murderer Arlecchino, Capitano is just bad for working with them together. He worked together with a Genshin equivalent of Dr Mengele ...
Maybe he'll get his wanderer moment
Wdym by that?
We'll get to name him. I'll name him "Capisce".
@@ChanhNguyen-dk4ef See I don’t think they’ll pull that twice.
@@JPS13Laptopscara erased himself from irminsul, so techinically teyvat no longer knows him as the balladeer. through the interlude sumeru archon quest, traveler helped him regain his old memory while still allowing him to live his new life in sumeru as "hat guy"
what i'm guessing is that capitano is probably going to get his "rebirth" moment in some ways like how scara did
@@johnnypham6095 I mean I see what you mean, but I think what’s more likely is that eventually the curse of immortality will be removed so he can actually die properly. Either way whatever happens with Capitano, it’ll probably be close to when the Teyvat story is close to finished.
guys keep in mind , if you look closely to him sitting down , hes still breathing, hes just in a limbo-like state.
A Schrodinger cat in a state he is
His soul merged with Night Kingdom. That's why the guardian said she is immortal now.
@@mabilleaudrey2154 he is still alive though.
@@ch_ips his body is immortal not his soul
Isn't like his entire being immortal? He says that he is cursed with absolute live. The curse as punishment would be missing the point if your soul dies and only your body lifes on. It would be just a shell, but no emotions and feelings, no person would be left.
I doubt they'll let such opportunity of literally ocean of money pass and just "throw him in there". Without explanation or reason as to how or why. Just like Noelle. We don't know much about her either, except that she wants to become a knight...
The hype for him will have died down and miss their opportunity for that ocean of money.
Seeing as they've openly stated they would release fewer male/more female characters now, they seem to not see that men make money too
Or Bennet, like who tf are you boy and how are you connected to Natlan?
@@colinrichardson9537 ngl he always looked natlanian to me lol
I just think this was a waste of a No1 Harbinger..like yeah, he got way better send-off than Signora ever did but remember how much Scara was built up as a character even Signora (the lore was in artifacts and other places). I feel like we know nothing about him and he is just dead..
He can still be characterized post-mortem like how signora was
@ signora was already characterised in crimson witch flame set tho, we knew her story plus pale flame set as well (idk what piece has her story) and i am pretty sure some books as well or notes i forgot..
yea if there's no more about him I will be even more disapointed
To be fair we do have the night kingdom to talk about wouldn’t be a surpise if we get a quest that talks about em.
I'd expect all the Harbingers (dead ones included) to get a fair bit more lore once we get to Sneznaya
same for all Khaenri'ans (ones that are somehow dead included) when we finally get to Khaenri'ah, meaning that Capitano has 2 big chances.
The thing I didn't understand was why Ronova was fine with Captain replacing Mavuika's part after she borrowed Ronova's power, even though the plot often emphasized that it was a rule that must be followed by all means that if you borrow Ronova's power, you must pay with your death? In a very crude comparison, it's as if Mavuika borrowed money from Ronova and the Captain decided to pay for Mavuika and Ronova was like "eh, whatevs". Ronova had even more reason to refuse since the Captain was blatantly challenging Ronova's rule and talking about revenge in it's face.
The deal was unofficial. The heavenly principles don't like this sort of thing from what's implied in the story so far.
I can't remember exactly which quest it was but I believe there was a discussion about how using Ronova's powers requires death but not necessarily the user's, just that a life of equal value must be claimed. I could be confusing things around so I'm currently trying to find when that happened. I'll edit once I do.
Here’s my theory: he will be back in some way.
Now him being playable is very iffy (and i would think far into the future) but i definitely don’t think this is the last we see of his. Two reasons: 1) he is a harbinger who is still physically existing in teyvat and retains all his memories. 2) he is connected to khaenri’ah.
For reason 1, i believe the tsaritsa would not just simply let her number 1 fatui go just like that, especially since they r still yet to obtain the pyro gnosis. I think this could be a very interesting set-up for snezhnaya’s archon quest, where the tsaritsa may try to find a way to break capitano out of his standstill with death while (pulling a thanos) getting trying to get pyro gnosis herself. Perhaps haborym would also appear in some way shape or form in the story if this were the case.
For reason 2, i think it’s pretty obvious that there are still a ton of mystery surrounding khaenri’ah, regarding its rules and how the story quest could possibly play out in a nation with no one left inhabiting it. I think there is a very real possibility that the next dainslief quest is somehow connected to capitano’s standstill with death (with could either play along with or go against reason 1), given how we now have at least 3 confirmed khaenri’ans existing in teyvat those being dainslief, capitano and kaeya. I wouldn’t be surprised if the three are connected in the future. Not to mention there is also pierro (number 0 of the fatui) who we r still yet to learn abt but is also likely from khaenri-ah. And if the tsaritsa doesn’t find a way to break capitano’s standstill with death i think the next person who’s most likely to do it will be pierro.
Overall, these points r complete speculation and cope that capitano will reappear in the future, but i think they’re valid and definitely could happen.
Well she gave her aggrement when he send a letter to ask if he can be removed from the collect of the pyro gnosis mission.
The Captain already turned into Arthas in Frozen Throne
We can see the captain sitting in the throne on the map after u complete the archon quest
It's like the tree in sumeru and inazuma
We can offer something I don't know what that is😅
@@VishnuSaravan you can offer the flint ores obtained by each tribe's reputation there for traveler constellations (they get additions to their constellations after you do the archon quest, so each constellation has two different effects.) right now you can only get up to c5 I think since collective of plenty is not released yet
We don’t know what in mihoyo mind
But i hop we won’t lose a character like capitano
In the simulanka quest durin was reborn so there is a huge chance that this body wont be capitano’s which is in fact gonna be thrain’s instead. and I feel like there are so many questions yet to be answered especially what the vid has showed.
This! I need someone to do a deep dive in the Simulanka story in light of the current events. I believe Capitano will be the Hero of the land in the game, who will fulfil the role of Scaramouche from Simulanka with the Traveller as the witness and Durin as the dragon. I can also imagine Simulanka's story foreshadowing Capitano's journey of reconstructing the Night Kingdom
Hi Mr CatWithblueHat, I'm a just a random mavuika main, but after completing the AQ and mavuika story quest, I can safely affirm there is something fishy in the quest. Not just CAPITANO, but the entirety of natlan archon quest, especially mavuika
I have somthing to say about natlan, now that I have finished the quest, and Mavuika story quest and I doubt I'm the only one who noticed it.
Anyone else feels like lots of thing are missing? Pyro gnosis fate, which harbinger is coming next, what about the outcome of the pyro gemstone, capitano fake death, the fact that in Mav SQ she knew already the questions we were asking ourselves but never explained why, etc...?
My theory is pretty simple, and I think it will be explained more in the future quests: I feel like everything that happened in natlan managed to somehow happens IN THE PAST.
In fact, in the ignition teaser, cap and mavuika already know about each other, right before their encounter in 5.0 which is just impossible. The new tournament which begin is now a competition where "the winner will take all" which is not a "humanity survival battle" anymore, meaning it's the new tournamenr that take place now that the abyss is gone so it wasnt the 5.0 tournament but the 5.3 tournament . Even more, mavuika states herself at the end of the AQ the lines of the pyro gemstone: "We embark on a pilgrimage for the wishes of the people...." yet she didnt even finish the whole sentence with "if his true heart can be found in ashes, then...", same goes for the reason we have yet to discover about mavuika, even more in her SQ where she somehow knew what we were thinking all along with the traveler asking himself how this can be possible, and her not elaborating, as well as the other fatui joining natlan and the tsaritsa keeping capitano rank and place, mavuika closing someone eyes in the ignition teaser, stating that "what our eyes see ought to be our fate, but close your eyes and feel" and immediately after that she says a line that she said in the archon quest "we will use our blood to forge our own future", meaning there is a possibility of mavuika having somehow restarted everything after "the person to whom she is talking" closed his eyes etc...
Something fishy is going on with the captain and mavuika, to the point where I genuinely feel like they both purposefuly used the traveler as a tool, IN THE PAST, to achieve a drastic change to a destiny they already knew or experienced, and that we arent even aware of it.
Anyone think that way too?
That's actually a good point
And with how Mavuika keeps saying that "past, present and future all exist at once", I feel like she knows more than we think. We already know that time travel shenanigans exist in Genshin, I mean take Raiden Shogun's second story quest as an example. Ei is the one that planted the seed of the Sacred Sakura, and it happened right in front of us, yet we already saw it in the game. So we witnessed how it was planted, but it's as if it always existed. There's also a huge theory of Traveler having already experienced everything but we're seeing a new timeline or something. Time manipulation is VERY important to the lore, so it's not that big of a stretch
"A Man on a Throne" is a great story set in a fantasy world. Imagine a Mom or Dad telling the tale as a piece of history to their son or daughter something legendary and timeless about him. I’d love for Capitano to be a playable character, but it would feel so much more iconic if he stayed on the throne.
your analysis and speculation soothes my heart as a Capitano wanter :') thanks
There has been speculation he could be the nails that resemble a cross on the fatui wheele. He has been sacrficed but he could be resurrected. A very similar situation to Jesus guiding the lost souls to heaven. The captain did so similliar to by guiding the souls to the night kingdom. He’s technically the genshin Jesus.
I feel like the Loom of Fate could also be involved with his return. Perhaps the Prince/Princess could see it as a way to acquire a strong khaenri'ahn ally, if they can make him owe them? Either way, it seems like a way to rush the Ley Line's repair fully, being a tool that can completely create brand new ones.
4:09 Where did this Tsaritsa news come from? That wasn't in the Archon Quest, unless I missed it somewhere, but idk where that could even be said.
From the start my hunch was right, because Genshin usually releases normal human characters, so like the big b__bs, signora was killed, the Capitano the black mask was died, My theory is that there are only 3 living harbingers left: Sandrone, Columbina, and Pantalone.
Pulcinella ( old man ), Pierro ( beard ) and Dottore ( Mask ) maybe unplayable
Requirements for playable digenshin: normal body and visible eyes
But pierro has a beard
Yeah imma be honest Pierro ain't gonna be playable. I do see the other three being playable and also probably a younger twink clone of Dottore
None of these characters will be playable lmfao you guys need to let go and focus on so
Something else
Wasnt Pulcinna the one we saw in the Sheznaya trailer? The one with his face obscured and the Fatui surrounding him? Or was thar someone else?
@@jazminbalazs553 yeah thats pulcinella the camera angle make him look taller while sit down.
Im actually surprised that they made a reference of Captino as the Lich King, sitting on a frozen throne with his sword on his right hand. He still has his immortality and became one with the lay lines so there's a possible chance we might see him again. He's sititng on his throne probably asleep since he hasn't been sleeping for 500 years like Dain and when another catastrophy or war with Celestia or another Abyss invasion he will wake up from his long slumber ans join the figt one more time.
All souls eventually return from the night kingdom, I would assume whenever they’re ready, given capitano’s immortal body is still there(and they teased his name so we definitely aren’t done with him) he will probably reincarnate back into that body where most people come back as someone’s kid since their body will have decayed to nothing
Morally, please let the man rest.
I do want to see more of his story and id be happy to see that in additional content like animation videos and filler events eg. if we meet him in a dream space like with Caribert, etc, or get to travel to Khanri'ah in the past and meet up with him pre-immortality, etc.
But for now... let him rest.
We got to have a canonical nap for 500 years before the game's events, now it's his turn.
Exactly. He will definitely take the longest nap he's ever had. It's totally possible that he will never want to move again in his physical form. However, I do believe it's possible we will get to talk to him or communicate with him again somehow
Remember the dream the Traveler had? I don't remember who, but either Ororon or Mavuika proposed that we saw Capitano's future, where he was guiding the souls in the Night Kingdom. He wasn't golden or transparent like every other soul, he had the exact same model as his physical body. As of now, we know that he's doing exactly that: restoring the ley lines and guiding the souls he kept within his body. I believe there's still more to it
As much as I really want Capitano playable, it feels wrong making him alive and playable, when he had faced a 500 year long torture.
So I think this may have been better fate for him, despite the playerbases(including me) dissapointment.
So it’s okay if Dainsleif is playable, his suffering is far worse than Capitano’s
@RaikaKoshiba650 oh god, I completely forgot about Dain-
He also deserves rest, but Hoyo already seem ready to make him playable...
Maybe he'll get a good reason to keep living?
I can’t with people who say this, like I’m already dying with how little men there is in this game 😭😭😭
Do you think if capitano's design is copied, like say an imposter of cloned by dottore let say, with similar powers, you would still pull for him? I think the reason he is popular is largely his design and a another part is his character
@@randompersontrying9700I'd rather not get plot devices as men for the sake of profit
I'm convinced no one reads the story...signora situation is totally different she was burned to ashes without anything being alive...while if u guys read the dialogue properly, ronova said she cant reverse the immortality which means he can't die at all..like bro's been breathing and twerking on the throne ever since that quest...if u guys read the dialogue it tells he's guiding the countless soul in to night kingdom, his wish is not wanting to die, its to guide the souls...u think thats his whole plan and thats what he lives for? no...
If its just to guide the souls he doesn't hv to join the fatuis at all, he can just work it out with the pyro archons all these years but nope bro has another plan, u think he became the master of ley lines for nothing... all those related to ley lines like dottore burning irminsul, loom of fate etc are all from future plots, so as a master of ley lines he's definitely needed in the upcoming contents..
And if u read those dialogues from monstadt fatuis they said tsaritsa is keeping his position, while signora position became vacant after she died, so it was their plan all along, to give capitano their first harbinger a power up as master of ley lines
Fair point. But still, it isn't exactly proof that he will move from his throne, as one question still remains: would he want to come back as a living being? Because right now I presume you could say that he's in a state of limbo. Being immortal and having suffered for so long, nobody would want to come back to "life", not so soon at least. It will definitely be a long time before we see him again, if we ever see him at all
Ororon asked: "Does that mean The Captain will never move from this place?", and in the same scene Mavuika said "His long journey has finally come to a close. I suppose this is a happy ending for him". Not saying this proves anything of course, but pretty much everyone agreed that this is his "ending" and that he will now be resting in peace. He isn't dead, but will he ever leave the throne? Will he ever want to move again? That's the question. If we do meet him, I feel like it would be in some kind of spiritual form rather than his physical body
@DeadVoxel i did not say he would move from that place tho....his soul is still alive as well his body just like u said he's just in limbo state... remember how guthred appeared and that version was actually how the story woven scrolls portraits him.. possibly from his past and ororon said he's gonna weave a scroll about capitano...i think we'll get something similar to wanderer redesign where thrain will be playable instead of the on at the throne
I'm yearning for the moment the stone-cold figure arises from his throne in Ochkanatlan, with his mask gone and a heartbeat being heard again.
Please hoyo you've already done signora mains dirty, let us have our harbinger of GOAT back.
There is no way a Harbinger much less the 1st harbirnger with so much lore and such a badass design will not be playable ( I'm still coping 😭)
it honestly might just come down to the same issue that Signora had. design not intended for playability.
both Capitano and Signora share the trait that their designs are clearly intended to be viewed from the front rather than the back, from behind he doesn't have a distinct silhouette since his coat basically just makes him one big block.
also, no visible Vision/Delusion on his model. so far the only playable characters without a Vision (real or otherwise) on their model are Raiden Shogun, Nahida, Neuvillette, and Mavuika (so 3 Archons and a Dragon Sovereign). even when swapping to their Delusion (or even entering Foul Legacy in Childe's case) Tartaglia and Arlecchino both keep their Delusion very visibly on their model, something that Capitano and Signora didn't do for their Cryo Delusions. for this same reason I'd also expect Dottore to not be playable.
then again, Scaramouche never had his Delusion on his model (in fact we don't even know what element he had (I'd bet on Electro though) or even what happened to it. did he lose/discard it at some point? might Wanderer still have it? it feels important enough that it should've been addressed) and he became playable, but he had a major design change and earned a Vision in between being a Harbinger and becoming playable.
also in terms of design even his original design followed all the typical rules for a playable character (long flowey thing that doesn't block view of the body (helped in his case by the fact that it was transparent), silhouette of body clearly visible), something I can't say for the designs of Capitano or Signora, who's silhouettes just look like indistinct blocks from behind (on this front even Dottore does better, I could actually believe his overall design concept could get made into a playable character if he just went through a small redesign like Wanderer did to add a Vision/Delusion to it).
honestly, when it comes to playability in Hoyoverse games the design thing is a much bigger obstacle than death.
3:20 this sounds like Ei with the Raiden Shogun puppet
*THIS COMMENT CONTAINS SPOILERS*
Honestly with how the natlan character sales other than mavuika aren’t nearly as good as Fontaine characters, they’ll probably make him an exception, similar to how they made the Raiden shogun playable when she wasn’t intended to be playable.
That’s one of the only two reasons I can see capitano being dead. Another is that he’s not physically dead, despite his losing soul or whatever.
Since when was Raiden Shogun intended to not be playable? Why would an ARCHON not be playable?
@ that’s the thing. Raiden has long lost her physical form. She’s nothing both a consciousness and soul transferred into a puppet now. The same situation with Furina, but Furina ain’t possessed with focalors’s used a as a vessel for soul or whatever.
At the very least, he was peak.
2:07 remind of line from ridick movie
"Is he alive or dead?
Both"
He just got put into a cryostasis for a while, he'll definitely come back especially when we'll inevitably deal with the Sinners. Ain't no way Dain can handle those guys alone, Rhinedottir/Gold singlehandedly f*ked over Teyvat with her creations, he'll need some assistance from the Khaenriahn if he was to get revenge. Plus, Capitani will definitely be out for blood considering that he's brave enough to mess with the literal God of Death herself.
… and what if this only a part of Tsaritsa’s plan this is why she left the Captain’s position as it is? Now that Capitano’s merged with the ley lines, maybe it is part of their plan in future archon quest?
With Nod Krai releasing, what if Sandrone or Dottore’s gonna make a new body for the Captain? I may be delusional but I’m still hoping for him to be playable
The 1 male character I wanted because he has such a cool design and he doesnt become playable. Welp wcyd
Just imagine that in the future plot when all hope seems lost, The Captain arise from his frozen throne. Would be really cool if that happens.
sir is in hibernation, he will be playable in spring
If he does become playable, it won't be during the natlan update, it's either during the nord-kari which is at the end of this year or nxt year during the snezhnaya arc, which can be a high possibility, because by time then the cryo archon would have obtained all the gnosis. Capitano mains we just have to wait and see 😊
do you have any idea about the relation between pyro traveler constellation system and capitano? in order to activate pyro mc cons we need to offer blazing flit ore to capitano, is this maybe a hint for capitano to gain his consciousness again?
My take abt capitano: I feel like his story is good, his goals is good but mhy really could handle hist story direction better. A lot of ppl actually said how boring capitano is bcs they feels like "he's just a guy" standing there. The thing is before signora dead she's already had her lore scattered through teyvat world towards artifact etc. but not with capitano that's why I feel like he still have potential or maybe mhy just gonna waste it. Now we don't know yet if they ever gonna released a book or artifact that tells more abt him in future patch, but one thing also makes me overthinking: Yk whenever there's a certain character/npc died they always give us this special item that reminds us of the characters/npcs? Ex: signora's mask, Tadhla's feather accessories/decoration, etc that's why maybe he got the potential. And yk maybe it'll get the contuation by how nod krai is dottore base and how another fatui possibly will come for the gnosis just like mavuika said.
Capitano's throne is the only place I will actually pray till I will play Genshin. Best written Genshin character till now.
Only hoyo can give him back. Look at hsr with tingyun, they did bring her back as fugue to squeeze more money
I think that for a confirmation we need to wait till we know which harbinger are we fighting next If It´s Columbina I think he is definitely coming back cause we are following the order
I'm pretty sure that if he becomes playable his name will be Thrain
Natlas is great Lore and Animation wise. But the Story was not really entertaining. No Climax, Plottwist or Shock moment. You had always random NPCs or playable character around you, which was kinda annoying. Same goes for Capitano, besides the first fight with Mavuika. He has great Lore but it was kinda boring. Natlan was still enjoyable but worse than the other Nations. Natlan is not over yet and I hope its get better.
So It got me curious. Didnt LOTN said that he is the new leyline and will heal natlan’s leyline? What if that his original body would be restored removing the curse of kaenriah through the leyline
Removing the curse? You mean the immortality? Because immortality itself cannot be removed, that should only be within Ronova's powers, she specifically said that the curse must remain. As for the rot, perhaps... but it's up to lore if that's even possible to begin with
well, with the current characters and the revealed livestream ones there's 16 in total.
since inazuma there was always 17 characters per patch cycle.
we're missing 1
It's pretty ambiguous and the video makes some guesses. However generally in stories when a character is written out by an act of self sacrifice (which despite it being irrational because Capitano benefitted from his "death", is how this story was written) then you know that character isn't coming back as that would cheapen the sense of self-sacrifice. For example if Capitano shows up the next day walking around and fine are they still going to have him featured heavily on the big statue commemorating the fallen?
Plus there's a game mechanic reason he can't come back. We need him to get the Pyro Traveler's constellations.
I think it depends on how the “sacrifice” actually works bc I dont fully understand about it. If all it is was his soul merging with Yohualtecuhtin, but still distinct, there might be possibility that he can separate again after She is done fixing the ley line. But I think it was more of him giving away his “life force” to Her since that’s what mavuika mention, and since his “life force” is literally unlimited that’s how Yohualtecuhtin now have “eternal life”
That's exactly what I'm wondering as well. It seems his soul is still out there, but his body remains unmoving, yet still alive. Yet he still gave away his life force... But he can't die? But what happens if he comes back to his body? Can he still provide his life force to the Lord of the Night from afar if he were to get up from his throne? Or would the Lord of the Night no longer receive his life force? Or did he give it to her completely? But his body still can't die, so even if he DID give his immortality to her, he still can't die according to Ronova's rules. I'm so confused
If they ever make him playable, I wonder how they're going to pull this off, because right now it just doesn't make any sense
Someone could inherit his ancient name ❄️
My only hope for him being playable is that his in game model got the skinny treatment
I never really thought about Capitano's stories and legends manifesting like Gunther. If that's the case then there's a possibility that he could be playable. He won't be the same Capitano we know but he's mostly like gonna be called Thrain.
That's the only plausible option I can imagine. The rest just doesn't really make much sense. Though this makes me wonder: will he come back to his body if he manifests as a story? Or will he need a new one for that? And how is he going to have a physical form in case he manifests like Guthred, knowing that Guthred only manifested as a "soul" in the Night Kingdom and not with a physical body? There are so many questions
Other possiblity is time travel. As his face is like zombie or decayed that no way Hoyoverse will let him playable like that.
Maybe we get playable as younger version of him when we get to Khaenri'ah nation (which is highly possible that we will travel back in time)
At the end of the archon quest at the memorial there’s an Npc who mentions stories she was told about Thrain so I could see it
Imo the biggest reason as to why I hate the Natlan AQ: the execution of things done the worst in all of the AQs we have. It also seems like a lot of Natlan AQ was retconned for whatever reason. And imo it clearly shows how rushed it was with Captiano and Mavuika. Like I was expecting we’d get more screen time with Capitano. His “death” makes some degree of sense, but I can’t fully see a direct way the writers can make him come back into the plot. Also, imo, his mask is the strongest part of his design, if he was unmasked to be playable, I wouldn’t consider pulling.
Personally though, the question I don’t get is why people say capitano’s characterization in the quest was “peak.” It literally wasn’t. We have playable harbingers who show that his story felt rushed as hell. It would be cool to see him come back, but if he did, I’d hope he’d be back in 7.0 or 8.0 (since it seems like 6.0 is Nod Krai.)
Retconned how? This is a genuine question, I'm curious to see your reasoning
And I certainly do agree that we didn't get enough screen time with Capitano,. We still don't know that much about him, and it kind of felt like he just appeared, said a few words here and there, and just "died". I feel like people say his characterization is peak mostly because people already liked Capitano, and because he's a good and noble person. Lack of screen time aside, I'd say the concept behind his character was indeed peak. There just wasn't enough time for it to be fleshed out properly
I also agree that without his mask he wouldn't be so... interesting? In terms of design. It's not like they could unmask him either way. The immortality curse wasn't lifted, and his rot would still remain. It's impossible, and it's not "attractive" according to the playable character standards
Though with all of that being said, I saw people bring up a good point: We still have a lot of questions unanswered, such as what's going to happen to the pyro gnosis? And all of that. It honestly even feels like at the end of the quest Mavuika didn't really answer any of our questions at all. The story of Natlan feels weirdly unfinished. Either they're going to build more upon it, or that's just how they're going to leave it until someone goes to fetch the pyro gnosis for Tsaritsa
Well i mean his body didn't turn to dust like signora or like other things that have died soo im still hopeful
The curse will keep him forever undying, despite his best efforts. He pulled off a paradox, against the gods' wishes. We'll probably see him again if we need more info on Khaenri'ah.
He had such an amazing ending to his arc, the only way I can imagine him coming back is when WE rewrite the rules of the world again at the end of the story, when we challenge the Heavenly Principles and he's no longer bound by his curse of immortality.
The particular reason I believe him to be playable at some point is due to his model; Hoyo specifically modified a tall male model for Capitano so he is taller than most npcs; why not use the buff-man that Wagner or Cyrus have, or base him off some of the beefier enemies like Electrohammer if the point is to make Cappy look large and intimidating, you can't really do much better in Genshin in that regard. So why the playable tall male as the base? If they wanted him to glow white under Elemental Sight, any npc model would do.
Besides that, some dataminer found out that his sword file ids are the exact same as some elemental skills such as Guoba; apparently there are very few things in the game that share this trait and are not related to playable characters. While admittedly it could be related to the fact he holds it in his stasis, I think it rolls back to the question of his model. Sure, maybe it's just easier for the devs to do stuff with his sword that way (the way he points it at Ronova is almost certainly a new out-of-cutscene thing), but let me cope in peace.
Lastly, and this is going to be an obscene amount of copium mixed with tinfoil hat nonsense on my part, the reason he is sitting here like it's 2007 and the trailer for Wrath of the Lich King just dropped is because hoyo wants Capitano's trailer to start the exact same way: dramatic musical buildup, camera slowly zooming in on the throne, and the eerie blue eyes start to glow (because swear to whatever god is up there, if he ends up playable and they waste that reference after all the Lich King coding they gave him...)
I've saw a theory on my community last night, they talked about blue butterfly on his cutscene, they searced and said that blue butterfly could represent rebirth. Maybe its some clue?
Butterflies also tend to be associated with time travel and the butterfly effect. This is a huge stretch, but just throwing this out there
At any point Capitano can be taken away from Natlan’s leylines.But,Now that he has control of them,He can have them connect to the rest of the leylines and send more Khaenriahn souls to the Night Kingdom before they are reborn in the ode of resurrection.
Not to mention that Mavuika said that Dottore is now in Nod Krai and we will have a target on our backs as soon as we reach Snezhnaya.If Capitano decides to leave the night kingdom and be away from the ode of resurrection which will have revived a lot of people by then,He can lead us into Snezhnaya and the Tsaritsa can finally tell us her full plan.Dottore won’t hurt us if the first harbinger himself takes us to Snezhnaya.Pierro is also Khaenriahn and Capitano can tell us more about him because we don’t know that much on his history.
First Signora now Capitano, Hoyo really fucked 2 of my favorite Harbingers
I mean to think about it it’s stupid that hoyo made a character with such a cool design and give him the position of a fatui harbinger and not any fatui harbinger he’s probably the strongest one and just kill him like that without making him playable or even make him a weekly boss so I think there’s a high chance of his returning but it will probably happen in next region in a critical event maybe in the fight against the tsaritsa
:) if u guys want captain to be playable then. Complete the whole reputation quest of natlan and get 6 cons for traveler.
😶 Otherwise the story won't progress 100% (or the captain might never be playable.)
Number one rule in Genshin whether a character becomes playable "If a character has been mentioned or has a voiceline about that said character from other characters, then certainly it will become playable.
-There are 3 Characters that has a voiceline about "The Captain"
-Wanderer, Childe and Mavuika
also the Pyro Gemstone's flavor text hasn't changed and the Redacted name is still there and hasn't revealed yet.. so the Destine victory hasn't happen yet
What if the Fatui bring him back in the 6.0 updates… I feel like Dottore will be ordered to awaken him or something. It just makes no sense to kill off a character such as Capitano. I’ve been disappointed and thinking about this nonstop cuz I really wanted Capitano to be playable. The only character I’m looking forward to now that we know of is Skirk. I just hope they do some bs and bring him back plus make him playable.
I can sense another remaining Harbinger's Trailer just like Winter night Lazzo (wherein Signora died) and maybe two factions will be mentioned.
I find it very interesting how he was still breathing on the throne despite seeming to be a lifeless corpse. It’s very subtle, but during the attack on Natlan om the surface, many of the dead were clearly not breathing, so maybe this is still something to cling onto (might be delusional idk lmao)
We know that he didn't technically die, as he's immortal, and Ronova absolutely REFUSED to lift up the curse. So his body is STILL alive, and his soul must be wandering in the Night Kingdom or something. But does that mean he's going to eventually come back to his body? That's the question
Capitano is in "suspended animation" meaning he could return but for the moment he will not.
Until the end when we fight against the sinners, I can get behind him being playable and coming back to help us
The thing is that Hoyo doesnt really need to make him left the Throne to make him playable,just with a quest of his past or maybe where we talk with him someway and use him they can give the charaito us without revive him in lore
It's either we can be able to mess with the Heavenly Principle or Death herself that he can be playable.
My guess is after Snezhnaya when we finally have access to Khaenri'ah
As much as i would like him to be a playable character, i really hope he doesnt become one. His arc was satisfying, probably the most satistying thing of 5.3, which i thought was kinda lackluster. Im more curious to know who will they be sending next to collect the Pyro Gnosis. My guess would be Columbina, given that her symbol is the next in the Harbinger wheel.
(The following points are just my musings for discussion, and are not intended as complete fact)
They way I see it, there are 2 strikes against Capitano coming back. If they can be resolved, then there would be a stronger possibility for him to come back.
1. Whether he wants to come back.
First thing, let's face it, the dude's tired. He hates having immortality and hasn't been able to sleep for 500 years. Man's trying to retire and take a long nap. Also, he may not want his body due to it being completely rotted. Granted, he'd actually be able to sleep if he came back, and maybe he's able to tolerate his zombified state. His arc was all leading up to his sacrifice, and he got what he wanted. He's need a really good reason to come back. He could come back to get revenge on the Shades, but narratively speaking it would be kinda redundant to do the whole "ultimate challenge against the Ruler of Death" thing again. I've seen people mention he might want revenge against the 5 Sinners or has unknown backstory about his Fatui times. I think these work better than facing Ronova again. Perhaps Dain can convince him or the Tsaritsa has plans for him given her keeping him registered as #1. Not sure if these reasons would be good enough, but they have some potential.
2. If the Lord of the Night would agree to give him his body back.
Even if Capitank could have a reason to come back, it could undermine the entire point of his sacrifice to Natlan. His body is Natlan's one way ticket to No-Abyss town, due the curse loophole being applied to the Lord of the Night. The Night Kingdom is kept alive indefinitely against the Abyss soley due to the immortality loophole. Depending on how exactly the merging and loophole works, him leaving Naltan would make the Night Kingdom vulnerable again. Protecting Natlan is the Lord of the Night's priority, and they are dependent on the body to keep the anti-Abyss barrier running. The curse may keep the body from aging, but Khaenri'ans can still be slain. Even if Capitano can possess the body again or even leave Natlan, there's still the risk of the body being destroyed. There are 2 solutions to this: First, Capitano only comes back for a limited time for a very serious threat to Natlan or Teyvat, or Capitano gets a new body to possess. Technically, there are plenty of other characters besides Capitano with the strength to defend Teyvat, so it may not be necessary to bring him back to defend the land. However, even if not necessary, he still might help. Kinda iffy on this one. As for the new body, it's theoretically possible.
(Mavuika Story Quest Spoilers ahead)
We saw Xbalanque come back briefly to possess some kid's body, so Capitano's soul could possess another body. Having him possess a living person's body is morally questionable, but we've seen artifical bodies be created before, so theoretically someone could construct a puppet for him to inhabit or something. This does have the risk of coming across as contrived, depending on how they write it. Also, since he's technically merged, he may not be able to independently possess another body. He and the Lord of the Night have separate consciousnesses, however, so maybe he can. Alternatively, Catwithbluehat's suggestion on a story version of him coming back is possible, but again, could become contrived if handled wrong.
This has been my thoughts, keep in mind these are just musings/opinions. I am not intending to argue with anyone.
You wrote down every point I made in my other comments as well. This is exactly what bothers me about him becoming playable. All of these contradict the very idea of him even MOVING from the throne as a whole
Though, I haven't thought of an artificial body or a puppet before, so... keep cooking. That also sounds pretty plausible
I do wonder though, if i'm not mistaken, the Wayob are formed by an entire tribe's stories and whatnot turning into a gestalt consciousness within the Night Kingdom, right?
If all of the souls inside of Capitano finally got shunted into the Night Kingdom, would it be possible that all of the stories and memories people have of him ends up turning Capitano himself _into a Wayob?_
What ost
I feel like hoyo knows that we want capitano,so they gave him a "fake"(if you get what i mean) death to put us off and then when we least expect it (probs also when we have less primos) they gonna drop his banner
My only question for it is , is he obligated to stay on this throne for it all to take effect , i would assume since the deal has already been done he would be able to. He deserves his rest for sure at least he got what he wanted , i wish he was playable so much but in the end it shall come to his own decision to wether he chose to rest indefinitevely or rest a while until he pursues or come to help for something important... that is the options i saw too. But if that is truly a his permanent "death" in the game, then it will be his best one.
Capitano joined Fatui because of it will benefit him. Fatui is the largest and strongest army force after Khanriah fall. He needs resources to gather information to finding ways to save all of his fallen soldiers souls and gathering loyal comrades and intelligence.
idk if it's reliable, but there has been leak where it shows Thrain w element Cryo
Personally a previous pyro archon or someone of great power from natlan's history could possess him however since he became his own place on the map that has significance and a cutscene and all that I think he's stuck there. He is in fact a soulless carcass now and forever.
I know I'm the only one who thinks this but if they ever decide to make him playable, it'll be a disservice to him. This is what he wanted, so give him that. Don't bring him back just because of his die hard simps. Even if there is a logical reason, it just doesn't make sense to me. Besides no matter how much people adore the harbingers, I don't believe we need almost every single one to be playable!
I still think thrain as a sentinel knight is over but as capitano it's not over coz ronova is still alive as well as celestia, harbingers especially khaenriahns like pierro & capitano main goal is to defeat celestia
I mean scaramouche introduced back in 1.1 and he playable 2 years later in 3.3 so if capitano playable I think it will be at the endgame in snezhnaya chapter or khaenriah
Since Chaditano was the strongest human alive, and now that he has guided the souls inside him to the night kingdom then maybe if the traveller gets in an inescapable situation with the shades, he could reappear in the story and then maybe come as a playable character
(but we all know he ain’t coming back😭)
I will like to put this here
The natlan teaser takes place after the ARCHON QUEST
Reasons
1: chasca references her dead sister
2: ororon is with Capitano
3: muavika isn't defensive or anything when she goes to Capitano
4: all six flames are lit which means all heros are awakened
5: the gemstone is still censored
6: capitano and ororon are in an unfamiliar area
7: the tournament is being seen as some sort of fun sport and now mention of heros night wars abyss is mentioned
8: muavika shared the secret with us in the teaser she still hasn't done that
Capitano will be back with the same model
That's a valid point
Now the question remains: How will they pull this off? Will they just, have his soul come back to his body? Or is there something else that happens that would be unexpected? So many questions and no answers whatsoever. I guess we'll see
Still doesn't prove that he'll be playable there and then, but at least there IS a possibility of him coming back as an NPC
@DeadVoxel and another thing he should up in muavika's web event all playable harbingers so far have shown up in the archon's web event
@DeadVoxel the how will be answered later on when we have narrowed the possibilities enough we have to wait at least for 5.4 because what if like durin he starts to breathe faster by each patch?
Thank you so much for such an interesting and enlightening video. Indeed the First of the Harbingers and the Strongest of the Fatui, the Hero of Humanity ascended to well deserved throne for his sacrifices and achieved his greatest goal and wish. As a fan of both Warhammer and Genshin Impact, Capitano's/Thrain's story makes me so excited and feels with both sadness and happiness that I even can't find my word. He's breathtaking 🥺😭🥰☺️🤗
the Tsaritsa will wake him up sooner.
Capitano wake up! we have heaven to BURN!
probably.
Btw ppl capitano in AQ was always referred to as “the captain” , so all we know he could be just a part soul of his original self and other part maybe in an undercover mission…or else why would tsaritsa would keep his rank in the harbingers ? It was mentioned she had no love for her people and only single goal to pursue in the genshin lore trailer
So you're suggesting his soul split into two halves when he sat down on the throne?
Because while he was still alive (or moving, I guess), Ororon said that Capitano's soul is perfectly in tact and complete, unlike his own
Truly he finally get to dream that yet to be dreamed.