Thank you for this conversation! I just read The Groundings with My Brothers. Fred's notion of talking amongst ourselves reverberates strongly with Rodney's notion of Groundings. While I couldn't catch this live, watching it after still felt like grounding together.
Wonderful discussion, thank you! I appreciate how Dr. Fred frames the problems and offers a mix of simplicity and complexity to allow for understanding and struggle
Yes seek simplicity but do not trust it. Fred is a maestro of nuanced expression. The shift from the oppositional operation of making discrete statements to thinking and studying together is vital to moving through into being part of.
beautiful. If you've never listened to this episode I would love to hear what you think of it (especially if this felt like a band): millennialsarekillingcapitalism.libsyn.com/hanif-abdurraqib-fred-moten-building-a-stairway-to-get-us-closer-to-something-beyond-this-place
(overly simplified definition): “Petit marronage,” or running away, refers to a strategy of resistance in which individuals or small groups, for a variety of reasons, escaped their plantations for a short period of days or weeks and then returned.
Powerful piece. Mr. Moten’s use of the English language is only limited by the lack of words in English compared to other languages. Offer up the following: MLK, Nelson Mandela, Booker T. Washington and Ghandi implemented monumental change through tolerance and nonviolence. Solutions that were eventually mutually beneficial to all parties. Just like one drop of water consistently dropped over time created the Grand Canyon, great societal change has occurred most expeditiously through a constant nonviolent push. History remembers people of action and unless your Plato, the written or spoken word is soon forgotten. The challenge to all is to choose tolerance over vitriol. Tolerance is hard…intolerance, fear, immediacy is easy. It is easy to hate and yes it feels good in the moment. Not that impactful and at the end of the day not that fulfilling. Zealots are a dime a dozen, bridge makers are priceless. Be priceless!
We had two guests last week who addressed the calls for a Palestinian Gandhi directly and spoke eloquently, vividly and historically about what happened to them when they went that route. Check out the conversations with Decolonize Palestine and Max Ajl if you're interested in that history.
Thank you Fred for helping us breathe through this shattering daily heartbreak.
Thank you for this conversation! I just read The Groundings with My Brothers. Fred's notion of talking amongst ourselves reverberates strongly with Rodney's notion of Groundings. While I couldn't catch this live, watching it after still felt like grounding together.
yeah we've spoken with Fred about Groundings before I think. He & Stefano definitely talk about that in The Undercommons as well
"How do we renew and refine our anti-colonial practice?" Indeed. Thank you for this rich and much needed conversation. Sharing widely!
Thank you both so much! So courageous
Wonderful discussion, thank you! I appreciate how Dr. Fred frames the problems and offers a mix of simplicity and complexity to allow for understanding and struggle
Yes seek simplicity but do not trust it. Fred is a maestro of nuanced expression. The shift from the oppositional operation of making discrete statements to thinking and studying together is vital to moving through into being part of.
always listening to you Fred
So good to hear Fred. Always widening and deepening issues.
I know poetry seems secondary right now but thanks for all your work and words 🙏
Thanks for your compassionate study Fred and Jared 🙏
thank you!
watching this felt like I was watching a band, but also like I was in the band, thank you
beautiful. If you've never listened to this episode I would love to hear what you think of it (especially if this felt like a band): millennialsarekillingcapitalism.libsyn.com/hanif-abdurraqib-fred-moten-building-a-stairway-to-get-us-closer-to-something-beyond-this-place
@@MAKCapitalism I'm excited to listen to this, great title, thank you.
omfg i cannot wait to hear this. thank you Frankie!
it's wonderful...
Thank you
Thank you for this
you're welcome! I'm grateful we were able to record and share it with the world.
Brilliant, thank you. Is this going up in the podcast? Can't find it ..
yes it will be. It will be slightly edited just to improve the sound for audio. But some time next week it should be up there.
What’s the petit something or other they refer to?
(overly simplified definition): “Petit marronage,” or running away, refers to a strategy of resistance in which individuals or small groups, for a variety of reasons, escaped their plantations for a short period of days or weeks and then returned.
If I want to follow up on Fred's invitation and write him an email, how can I reach him?
tisch.nyu.edu/about/directory/performance-studies/3144950
No country has a right to exist, only people do. Someone said this, don't know who but sounds right to me.
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Powerful piece. Mr. Moten’s use of the English language is only limited by the lack of words in English compared to other languages. Offer up the following: MLK, Nelson Mandela, Booker T. Washington and Ghandi implemented monumental change through tolerance and nonviolence. Solutions that were eventually mutually beneficial to all parties. Just like one drop of water consistently dropped over time created the Grand Canyon, great societal change has occurred most expeditiously through a constant nonviolent push. History remembers people of action and unless your Plato, the written or spoken word is soon forgotten. The challenge to all is to choose tolerance over vitriol. Tolerance is hard…intolerance, fear, immediacy is easy. It is easy to hate and yes it feels good in the moment. Not that impactful and at the end of the day not that fulfilling. Zealots are a dime a dozen, bridge makers are priceless. Be priceless!
We had two guests last week who addressed the calls for a Palestinian Gandhi directly and spoke eloquently, vividly and historically about what happened to them when they went that route. Check out the conversations with Decolonize Palestine and Max Ajl if you're interested in that history.
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The white man better leave or submit their deeds and they will lose
thank you