Joe Rogan: Comedians Are NARCISSISTS!
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Joe Rogan and Louis CK talk about the comedy scene in general and how a lot of comedians can be very selfish people who are full of themselves.
Louis CK is an American stand-up comedian, actor, and filmmaker. He is the host of brand new comedy special, "Sorry."
Clip taken from JRE #1929, w/ Louis CK
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Louis CK
Producer: Jamie Vernon
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Thanks for the shout out Louis! I always loved getting the chance to work with you. Love the new stuff.
would ove to see a recording of that Banjo bit hes talking about... do you happen to have it on video by any chance?
@@sidgallup hey Sid… since this came out I’ve looked all over for anything from back then. I promise to post it if I get it. Looking through VHS tapes and worse. Lol. I had a box in the attic… the irony is I used to do a bit on the banjo of a song I learned off an album that was left out in the sun and now it’s come back to haunt me. Thanks for asking though.
@@tomayersyou sound awesome sir, hope you're still out there doing it up
So good to see Louis back in the limelight. He is a true talent.
The best.
One of the best standups ever. Top 5 easily
Never forget. Mat and Shane’s secret pod did it first!!! Brought him back
He is just promotions something right?
What talent is so important that you want him back in a position of power? He's not the honest, down-to-earth guy people fell in love with. He's a narcissistic, perverted millionaire. He should be a man and bow-out. Let other comedians have an interview with Rogan.
What makes Louis C.K. stand out is that he has this unmatched level of empathy for everyone around him. He's very aware of how everyone feels and the subtle nuances of their reactions to his bits.
Exactly right.
Maybe not everyone around him...
@@AdamKontras It does make the "I thought they were ok with it" excuse ring a little hollow.
But for the style of comedy I like, there are no better American comedians.
@@Malpheron fully agree, but saying he has an “unmatched level of empathy” would even make Louis laugh.
This guy is a millionaire actor. He doesnt have empathy, he's got charisma and acting chops. If he had empathy he wouldnt have coerced people into sexual encounters; thats some shark shit.
Louis C.K. is truly a maestro of his craft
@Onyen Bew hahahaha touché
Meh. He always seemed like a dick to me. I was never a fan. Scandal or not.
these guys just have prop comics, remember achmed the dead terrorist
But more importantly, of his shaft
@onyenbew1798 😳
I love Louis the comedian. But Louis the philosopher is even more fascinating to me. Such a brilliant guy, who figured out proper parenting even with all his success. I have mad respect for that!
I wonder what his philosophy is regarding coercive sex-acts. I bet it's not very good.
@@TheZademann None of us are free from sin, stop acting like you are.
@@schrodingerscat8621 Thats a pretty big self-report. No, dude, not everyone has done coersive sex acts. Most people dont do that stuff, its not hard. I have done some things Im not proud of, but it's like being mean to kids in school and not saving a bird from getting run over. Louis CK is a millionaire, is he using that money to support the people he hurt? That is step 1 at a bare minimum.
@@schrodingerscat8621 my first thought was to comment on “Louis C.K. the skeez” but I realized, you make a good point. We, as viewers, can appreciate and gain insights from the “comedian” and the “philosopher” regardless of any other “identity” he at times embodies….you’re right no one’s perfect, and none of us are solely our “bad” aspects, that and I’m pretty sure just about all men have/use some form of “coercion”(explicit or implied) to get sex …pretty sure
Not to mention, women know what’s up. Women have been using this “coercion” deal to get what they want for eons upon eons, and then act like complete and total unparticipating victims of men and their sex drive. Ever withhold sex from your man, guess what, that’s sexual coercion… just the opposite direction. Same game tho
Louis is back and it's the best we all need his input and advice could spend hours listening
Na, bro. If you need Louis CK's advice in your life, you need to stay the hell away from society. Lets just get Godzilla to design our cities.
@@TheZademann damn killthe vibe for no reason at all. @Palapa yeah someone thats authentically acheived 38 years of incredible success is 100% worth listening to and admiring, it's awesome how some of us are abe to put our egos aside and listen and learn from others.
I haven't seen Joe laugh so much, so often with a guest. Seems like he really has a connection with CK. They are in a groove...
Bc there not so secretly gay together this has been been a known thing for well over a decade I thought everyone just knew
@@thomasshelby1922 🤣
They're from a similar place and time, in a very tight-knit industry.
That "pungent" comment from CK flew completely under the radar. Given the context, that was excellent word smithing. Kudos!
Joe is talking about the _Theory of the Limited Good_ -- what he calls the famine mentality. I remember thinking kind of like that when I was in my teens. It leads to resentment of anyone's and everyone's success. I knew a guy years ago -- a real black pit of a human being, a dark narcissist -- and I could tell he was one of those. He hated me because _he_ wanted to be "the intelligent one', and thought I was robbing him by being smart. I think eventually he started to work out his psychological issues, but for several years he created havoc in the lives of everyone he came across.
Hey “pointdexter” do you think maybe you’re not really as smart as you think you are and maybe your the one that’s a narcissist? Idk kind of come across as a “smartest in the room” loser to me lol
@@ThumbDr _He_ thought I was the smartest person in the room, and that was why he spread gossip about me continuously for years.
Attacking someone who has not attacked you is *always* a reveal of internal insecurities, and often the 'attacker' is the only one who believes his motives are hidden, inscrutable.
I only _consider_ myself in terms of my actions -- mostly productivity and morality. Otherwise I make it a point not to think about myself -- something that has taken decades of practice, and serious adversity I would never have chosen for myself.
@@paryanindoeur Do _you_ think _you’re_ the smartest person in the _room?_ And will you _lie_ & tell us that you _don’t?_ We may never know!
@@paryanindoeur I’m just joshin’ ya, but to be serious:
I didn’t know about the “Theory of the Limited Good”. I just remember an old friend of mine preaching “scarcity vs. abundance mindsets” because he was obsessed with self-help books & specifically that one Stephen Covey book, which I suspect Joe might’ve pulled from too. I had no idea that the concept was written decades before, by an anthropologist I’ve never heard of before.
Do you know if the idea pre-dates even him? I don’t know what search terms to plug in to learn this & I don’t know why I’m so curious about the full origin, but I am!
@@CantTellYou I understand that you cannot know... but I do. I was speaking about a specific room at a specific time, btw, and I never said I thought I was the smartest person -- just that a narcissist, who had been abused as a child, btw -- acted in a bizarre, passive-aggressive manner, secretly trying to poison other people against me, over several years, felt threaten by me.
Considering no one here has anything riding on it, and I have nothing to gain from it other than the benefit of sharing knowledge, it should not matter to you whether I'm lying or not.
Some people just have an innate distaste from an honest admission of their own value. Sometimes it's cultural, like the Scandinavian _Law of Jante,_ but I see 'denying reality' as worse than the risk of being misread as arrogant by people who don't know me.
brian regan is one of the funniest comics, and clean. i think his brother is a comic too, also clean and very funny.
brian's stuff is all over youtube
One of the best. And he's liked by every other comedian too.
Better get that black light out.
Brian is great and Louie is great. I think its two sides of the same stone. To make someone laugh while being completely clean is a talent, but so is making someone that is easily offended laugh at something offensive.
Love the depth in these conversations, shows how much more is underneath the surface and I appreciate this side of people way more than some external persona!
CK is so deep! Thats why he coerced/forced people into watching him! Because he really understands the human condition!
Anybody else regret not pursuing Stand-Up in thier 20s because of this interview?
@@TheZademann we're all human and have all done some f'd up stuff, past is the past and stroking one's self while being watched isn't the end of the world to me.
@@unclemoneymoneyuncle8702 Gross. I have never and will never do anything like that. Some things are just bad. Im not saying he needs to be in prison but he shouldnt be idolized for whats "underneath the surface." This interview is his external persona! In his private life he's a creep who used his money and influence to hurt people.
@@TheZademann lmao, we're all entitled to our own opinions and viewpoints, one act of jerking it doesn't make the dude some horrible decrepit human being. Why don't you try focusing on the positive traits of someone. I mean is Will Smith now just a slap? People are more than one mis-action performed.
I loved seeing Louis in Melbourne a few months ago. He was brilliant and the comics he brought with him were fantastic as well. I’d definitely go and see him perform live any chance I got.
Hi Louie
Brilliant? The dude doesnt understand consent.
They cancelled the show in Wellington
@@TheZademann he asked for consent!!!
@@ferise1 which proves he doesnt understand the concept. If your daughter's boss asks for a consensual bj, thats coersive. That person needs to get fired and punched in the face.
Loved the insights into comedy audiences. Made me feel really good that I love going to someday shows! They nailed it: basically I'm there to have fun and laugh; so in that setting it's going to be fairly easy to make me laugh- especially a couple drinks in.
Louis CK is one of the true Legends of Comedy
The Legend of Louis is a story about what happens to an evil loser who gets too much money, attention and power. Like Elon Musk.
Best ever.
@@TheZademann evil loser? He asked for consent
@@ferise1 look up 'coercion'
0:40. I believe Joey Diaz finds it extremely easy to talk about that stuff!
A well placed fart is often hilarious.
My wife doesn’t seem to think so 😂 may not be so well placed I guess , seeing as right in her face is My target 🤣🤣
Unless it gets away from u....
*always
Agreed
I'm a professional comedian. I needed to hear that. Thanks for posting this video!!!
this is the most fun ive sen jre in a while . louis is such a good story teller
They're so busy working that they don't have time to take showers either. Such productive members of society.
I've been an actor for 10 years, but I have a different respect for comedians and their art. It takes a different kind of stones to get up there by yourself in such a raw way and do what they do, which I most certainly couldn't! That's likely why they're mostly narcissists, like most artists, because that's the kind of people who can actually do what's required.
A lot of comedians are actually sensitive which surprised me
At least they're funny narcissists, unlike politicians
@@caralho5237 Donny T was the last good one
It’s almost like you think that’s a virtue instead of an illness in the hyperbolic industry you’re in. Comedians and actors are part of the multi billion distraction industry
Mmm
Relative to the profession vulgar comedy is much easier than clean comedy.
Just the idea that there is enough for everyone if you do it right is so basic and so important ❤
Damn I love these conversations
I think great comics like these guys have one trait in common, their ability to tell a story right off the tops of their heads perfectly like they have practiced a thousand times.
I’m going to MSG to see him on Saturday and can’t wait!
Love the fact that Rogan is so chill he lets Louie talk. He’s a great interviewer and Louie C. K. Is the GOAT. Please do a show in Austin Louie!
Being chill around sexual abusers is not cool. Thats the dumb shit thats making Austin exponentially worse every year. Louis CK should have to eat horse sh*t in public, every day for the rest of his life.
Joe Rogan is a terrible interviewer
Whats funnier, the guys bit or Louis recounting the story 😂
DEFINITELY HIS RECOUNTING OF THE STORY. Not being humble. Watching him talk about it was much more fun then ever doing it!!!!! Lol.
I grew up in Rockland County, but had moved to Jersey by then. Wish I had checked out the comedy scene in Rockland. I actually thought about opening a comedy club/comic book store as I owned a comic book store at the time in Nyack but the deal didn’t go through to buy the corner building with the bar on the first floor. I also missed out on the chance to see Twisted Sister perform at a dive on route 59 in Nanuet, because I only knew them from their posters and they were a little too weird looking for me. My loss. Always great when the two of you, Joe and Louis are together on this podcast. I always learn a lot. This is like taking college classes in Comedy. Comedy 101 and beyond. Thank you. No one should be judged by past mistakes if they are willing to move past them and strive to be better people. Much respect for both of you.
This was late to my feed. Anyhoo, I wonder how many comedians were either nominated for placement OR placed in the 'Gifted and Talented Program' in their school district? Skill levels such as verbal language usage, reading and creative writing aptitude are tested at an extremely early age. That's when they find out how gifted they truly are in creative writing.
If it's not creative writing, then it's more like sales, acting, public relations, communication skills, etc.
These two have good chemistry
I love Joe's impression of joey Diaz especially doing some weird shyte
Its hard not to become narcissistic when you are a guy like Rogan
What a HARD ass job, sheesh. Hats off to all comedians.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! No, comedy is not a hard job. And Louis CK is a scummy loser. Ill keep my hat on.
I never get tired of the mechanics behind comedy! 👍😎
1 damaged human being is the mechanics of comedy.
Where can I find the entire episode? Is it on TH-cam?
Spotify
*Thumbnail* of *David A. Arnold* was an American stand-up comedian, sitcom writer, producer, and actor.
But no mention of him??? This man passed away… HES USED IN A THUMBNAIL & NO MENTION OF HIM?!? Did I misss something
Nope
This is not Joe's channel. A random person made the thumbnail. Could've been a merman there instead of DAA.
That dueling banjos bit he described sounds like the dumbest, most glorious thing ever. I imagine aliens getting here, and seeing that, and then just turning around and going home.
😂 that’s 80s/90s comedy during the “boom” in its purest form. Like it’s so hard to imagine a Gallagher existing in 2023, but those silly acts seem to be captivating audiences back then
@@CantTellYou any info on where to watch that bit? if it exists on tape...
I wish I had something… I think I might have something on VHS somewhere in the attic if it didn’t melt. Like the other guy said I don’t think it would even get a laugh today.
@@tomayers I would love to watch it!!
Ok. Why the all caps? I know why, I’m watching this clip along with everyone and it’s brilliant, but you made choosing this video way harder than it needed to be man lol
Comedians allow people to laugh at all the social taboos in society. They are the only one's who can get away with saying things that would get a regular person fired from their job.
The world is looking to change that
I've always found that the best sets contain a mix of clean and vulgar so that the vulgar is timed to make a big impact.
100% Louie is talking about Jerry Seinfeld and his genre of "clean" comedy. He talked about it in 'talking funny' where they egged Jerry on his reluctance on using swears in the joke and he just blandly said "I just haven't found the comedy of it"
Well Jerry, you might wanna come see Louie live.
LCK is impressively articulate.
I wrote jokes, speeches, for other people for a while. Did OK. I could never do standup myself even though I loved acting. Never got a handle on that other than being lost in a character...
Interesting
You’re humble enough to admit it and for that I respect and appreciate you. Too many people these days are arrogant pricks thinking they’re gods gift to the world , the fact your even able to admit your faults puts you on the scale of the upper 50% of human beings . Be proud 🎉❤️
“Comedians are NARCISSISTS”
As soon as I read that my first thought was Joe Piscopo.
That scientology metaphor was the fucking funniest analogy I've heard in a long time. Brilliant!
Since when did narcissism become confidence?
This video alone should be a guiding light for any comedian of any level.
“I’m 38 years into it [comedy] the way he said it like it’s nothing 😮
Just like any craft, to be the best you have to devote your life to it. Literally.
I felt the same way… lol.
I wonder if that's why I love falling asleep to comedy it's like the only way I sleep
Bong hit transplant
Nice, Tom!!!
Why is there a picture of David Arnold? I thought they were referencing him.
Louis should go down as one of the best comics ever. He's fuckin hilarious on stage. They tried to destroy him because he made a mistake and people judged him like they're perfect but I'm glad he's back and comedy is better off for it.
He’s the best ever
About those timing laughs, it can be reversed as well. Way back when I was starting out, I came up with what I thought was a "clever" premise for a joke, but not a particularly funny one. It was about how the Catholic Church honors saints on the days they died, instead of their birthdays (because martyrdom) and call it a "feast" of that saint ("feast" here meaning "festival"), and my idea was that the only ones who "feast" when a Christian becomes a martyr are the lions. The trouble was, even though I thought the concept was clever, I couldn't figure out a way to make it funny. Then it hit me. If I tell the joke in a way that I know is going to bomb, and then have a much better follow-up joke about the fact that my joke bombed, I can get a laugh and still have used the clever premise. So I deliberately changed up my speech rhythm so that it WOULDN'T trigger a laugh response, but with just enough of a pause that the audience would realize a split second later that there was supposed to be a laugh, and then, hit them with the REAL punch line. And it worked like a charm!
Me: "The Catholic Church celebrates something called 'feast days,' honoring the day that a Catholic saint died. A Catholic dies and they call it a 'feast?' Yeah, for the lions!"
(Audience is awkwardly silent.)
Me: "Too soon?"
(HUGE laugh from the audience!)
This was really interesting. I loved your premise.
I know explaining jokes is stupid, but since you explained most of it could you explain the ending too
I'm not a native speaker, so what's so funny about "too soon"? I'm not getting it
@@Vasily_dont_be_silly "Too soon" means that audiences don't want to laugh at tragedy if it just happened recently. I was implying that the joke was funny, but the audience only refused to laugh because events from the Roman Empire were recent events.
@@ShawnRavenfire Ohh right. Heh. That's clever
I really want to see that Tom (I didn't get his last name, Erris?) performer. That sounds amazing. Nothing beats a crazy live performance like that.
Tom Ayers. I hope you find some stuff
Made me think of The Amazing Jonathan. 🤣
A high tide raises all boats. And yet we never do it. All of society is about competition and only one winner. Everyone can win
I'm trying to scrape the barnacles off my dinghy
@@paullayfield Are you an eye
@@naylik2562 part of me is but not the rest. Although there is another part that is but there's some other things.
Joe looks high as fuck 🤣 especially when he's like "yeah.. yeah..." 😂
shiaaaat....Louie was with Blanche Gardin? Awesome!
Narcissism is human nature. We are all narcissist. It’s a spectrum
I'm sorry
dumb...AF
Laws of human nature..Robert Greene. It’s better to be self aware and embrace it then ignore it and never understand why you feel a void
There's a lot of comedians where they kind of awkwardly force the audience into laughing... Even though it was a bit of a cheap shot... Louis does sometimes go down that route... But there's enough good stuff in his material that you kind of give him it...
Tennis players are too!
Joes laugh in this clip is soooo good.
Its funny in general when someone gets him rip laughing hard lol.
Yea....laughing
This makes sense because I fancy myself a comedian and my therapist fancies me a narcissist.
You sound like a comedian to me.
the title is never more evident than watching 2 bears 1 cave
As a comic, I've never understood the "can't follow" thing. In my experience the worst thing to follow has always been a comic leaving the audience cold, when a great comic kills on the other hand, it would always be a great set for me.
Louis is a comedic genius... time to be uncanceled.
RED FOXX is the GOAT.
You saw the Eddie Murphy interview...BFD
Anybody catch the name of the comic with the banjo? I can't find him
steve martin
Darude Sandstorm
And water is wet.
deep
Holy shit
Anthony Jeselnik
Comedians need to understand that 9 times out of 10 people are laughing to be
nice. We aren't dying to laugh, and they are pulling it out of us. We are laughing to be nice, like when someone does a lame magic trick and you say oooh ahhhh.
Please tell me there’s footage of the animal hat guy on the internet.
I feel like a bull in a china shop. I can watch from the wings, but I feel cooped up anyplace people would notice me move around. I am really good at Invisible Exits at all functions, lol.
CONNECTICUT NO JOEEEE
I'm always thinking... "Humm this next guy probably ain't as good" after a funny guy leaves the stage.
and all this time I thought it was narc assist...
Republican, right?
They didn't say THEY could do it. People are saying "dirty" sets are easier because there are almost nothing off limits. Working clean makes you work with a lot of restrictions. It's like an MMA fight and you can only use boxing. You can make a clean joke as a dirty comic but not vice versa.
Just like fighting. There are many forms of comedy
I think the 30 year comic knows more than you
That is neither true nor the point they were making.
Yo David Arnold died. Why is that picture used for this title? What’s the point of that?
shoutouts to redbar!
Anybody else regret not pursuing Stand-Up in thier 20s because of this interview?
never too late
I didn't even know comedy open mics existed until I was 29. But going up was the best decision of my life (not that that's saying much tbh).
Jim gaffiigan enters the chat
Seinfeld did a whole episode about exactly this 30 years ago
Pretty tasteless to use David A Arnold's pic in the thumbnail.
joe Rogan has the best laugh
Joes high af 😂 but so am I watching this right now 🫠
spiderman points at spiderman
actually most of Joe's viewers are and he knows it
What's wrong with smoking a plant?
@@darcytucker416 the smoke part..the buzz part isn’t the problem, just the smoke part of it
Apparently Louie gets high from time to times. I remember a O&A episode when he said he's got a fat stash and smokes up on occasions
It is an easy laugh. Smart edgy comedy is much harder and a really good comedian wouldn't go for the "easy laugh" because the only thing that is difficult is the lowering of the bar and the risk all will be lost.
38 years of doing comedy is remarkable
It'd be more remarkable if Louis CK was a decent human being.
@@TheZademann what makes him a bad person?
@@Oscareuh Multiple acts of sexual coercion. Using his power/social status to abuse people that were around him.
I think most ppl dont realize the level of social intelligence required to be a good comic
@Psyop Beats the sureness with which u speak for "most ppl" is awesome bud!🙃 we agree it seems, so the unnecessary passive aggressiveness is an eye roll. Just better, ways to say it. Like "welcome to the club" or something else socially intelligent.....anyway it's my Friday, have a good day bruv
They don't.
My buddies and I rip on each other so much that it would make an outsider cry. The reason it happens is because we know that we're all friends and the other person really doesn't mean it, that's what makes us all friends.
Dirty jokes are hilarious. If people are offended then don’t go.
Most people much prefer comics that work cleaner as opposed to the people that are very filthy. Brian Regan, Seinfeld, Anjelah Johnson, Nate Bargatze (sp), Louis Anderson, Ryan Hamilton, Jim Breuer, etc. The cleaner guys have more skill than the filthy ones.
I've been doing open mics. It's super fun. I havent figured it out yet. Ill gave a session where I feel like the funniest guy. Others, (same jokes) bomb like a bitch. I dont take it personal. Just part of me tries to understand
Impressive. I’d love to try but I’m chicken shit. Keep going for it!
FR! so many wanna be comedians and they have no idea. Pretty much all of us youtube commenters
Way to cut off on the most interesting part.
I hate hypnosis
Mark Critch?
narcist🔥
*Narcissist
dumb🔥
He’s the “jack” of all trades
David A. Arnold as the thumbnail is confusing.....R.I.P.
Louis should’ve had the speech with Joe about his stand up comedy like Joe had with Schaub about his fighting.
Which speech is that?
The "hanging up the gloves is the only way you can sell the idea that you deserved them to begin with" speech?
Louie's fascinating to listen to.
He’s gotten really good at finding 30 words that capture a 500 word subject. He’s a chrysalis